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Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: systemparadox on April 14, 2005, 11:58:09 am
I have looked and looked and looked for this cable, but I can find very few, and those that I do find will not sell to the UK.
I am looking for a short (5-15cm) mini-A male to standard A female usb cable. I want the mini-A plug to be as small as possible, to make sure that it can be used in the cradle and to help reduce the chance of damage to the port.

The iriver one looks good: https://secure1.nexternal.com/shared/StoreF...&RowID=104&All= (https://secure1.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?CS=iriver&RowID=104&All=)
but if anyone has seen one with a smaller mini-A plug please speak up.

Firstly, if anyone knows of anywhere I can get this in the UK then I would prefer to take that option.
Failing that (and I have so far), is anyone in the US willing to buy a cable and post it to me? If anyone is, could you give me a quote for the cost of the cable and for postage.

The other problem is how to pay. I think I would prefer to pay via paypal, but I am open to suggestions provided it is fast(ish) and secure.

Thanks very much
Simon
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: omega on April 14, 2005, 12:06:32 pm
maybe you have another need for this cable but there is no host on the 5500..... so that cable you describe is no use.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: systemparadox on April 20, 2005, 03:24:15 pm
if you're looking at my sig i still haven't got round to updating it... i have a 6000l now.

Thanks
Simon
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 20, 2005, 03:42:26 pm
I was considering ordering a couple (a dozen?) of iriver cables, have them shipped to a friend in the US, who would send them to me in France. I could then redistribute them with minimum costs (thanks to the grouped order) for those living in Europe...

Anyone interested? I need to know how many people would like this cable so that I can try to estimate the cost...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: systemparadox on April 23, 2005, 05:02:26 am
I'm interested, provided it's not still going to be silly money.
(I might want 2 if the price is right).

Maybe you should buy a whole stack and sell them as a buy-it-now on ebay every so often.

Have you looked at the streamlinecpus cable?
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 23, 2005, 10:13:53 am
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I'm interested, provided it's not still going to be silly money.
(I might want 2 if the price is right).
I'm waiting a bit to see if other people are interested, and will let you know the expected price.

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Maybe you should buy a whole stack and sell them as a buy-it-now on ebay every so often.
I'm not fond of eBay, and this would mean some additional costs, so I think this would be a one time offer: I order a couple in two weeks or so, including one for me (although I already have found a cable-less adapter included in a USB travel cable kit), and as many as required by other European users interested.

I haven't had a look yet at the shiping costs, but I'd venture that it will probably be around US$10 all in all with the shipping from US to France to another European country included. (just a blind estimate though. The shipping of 10 cables from the US to France should cost in the $10 to $20 range, and shipping one cable from France to any European country is going to be less than €2).

Oh, BTW, bad news: the cables appear to be sold out until June 25th, 2005 on the iRiver website... :-(

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Have you looked at the streamlinecpus cable?
No, haven't looked at it (more than having a quick look at their website). It's $9.99 when the iRiver cable is $5, so I think I'd rather go the iRiver way...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: ztep on April 27, 2005, 05:33:23 am
I will be interested in buying a cable. Keep me informed.

Regards
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: steliosx on April 27, 2005, 11:48:21 am
im also interested! for 3 pieces! cause I just bought 2 x C1000 + 1 x C3000 for me and my colleagues!

please let me know about cost
thanks!
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: jbbrs on April 27, 2005, 12:08:53 pm
Michael Rozdoba just posted on the openzaurus-users mailing list a place where you can find one of these cables:
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90129142.asp (http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90129142.asp)

Watch out for shipping, though, as for Portugal it adds 14 euros...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 27, 2005, 01:51:11 pm
At the moment, here's the list of people who might be interested to order a small USB host cable like the iRiver one or the StreamLineCPUs one:

1 x beowolf
2 x systemparadox
1 x ztep
3 x steliosx
1 x euroclie

So I think I can safely order 10 cables.

The shipping costs for such a small parcel would most certainly be less than US$10 to get it to my friend near Chicago (streamlinecpus mentioned a US$3 cost for shipping 5 cables to Chicago, I don't know how much iRiver charges for such a delivery), and then, to be safe, let's consider a US$20 shipping fee from the US to France for the same parcel. After that, shipping every cable individually to other European countries would cost around $2 per cable (rough estimate).

All in all, I expect something close to US$5 of shipping fees per cable. I don't think that I'll have to pay custom taxes for such a small number of cables, but that might happen, though... (VAT is 19.6%, and there are other taxes and fixed fees involved as well... Unlikely to happen, but I'd rather mention them just in case, so that people can factor them in and have a good surprise in the end, instead of ignoring them and finding myself with unwanted (a bit more) expensive cables at home!

So if we go for the iRiver cables (which are backordered until June 30th, at the moment), that would be approximately US$10 (best case scenario) to US$15 (worst case, with custom fees) shipped to your door (in Europe).

For the StreamLineCPUs cables (US$10 iso US$5), that would be US$15 to US$20, but the cables are readily available.

I can wait a bit (especially if you guys decide to go for the iRiver cables), and see if more people are interested, this might lower a bit the final price (though not by much, one or two dollars, I'd venture...).

OTOH, I'm not willing to handle a mass order of dozens of cables to ship individually afterward (hey, I have a daytime job, too!  ) and I don't want to spend too much cash in advance either ($100 or so is OK, though)...

As far as getting my money back is concerned, I have a PayPal account, and I'm open to any (sensible) suggestion for those who do not want to use PayPal...

Let me know what you guys think about all this: does the resulting price seem right to you? Are you in a hurry to get the cable and ready to pay $5 more, or do you prefer to wait two months? If we were to reach, say, around 20 cables to order I could order half from iRiver for the patient/broke users, and the other half from StreamLineCPUs for the rich/impatient ones...

Last note for those who would find this message in a few months/years from now (April 2005) using a search engine: I'm not opposed to doing this again from time to time to help the community, but I don't intend to do this on a regular basis...  
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: steliosx on April 27, 2005, 04:01:59 pm
dear euroclie

thanks for the nice initiative

speaking of myself, I would _definately_ prefer to spend a couple of bucks more to get them faster!

so count me in for either order, and paypal is my preferred method to send money too!

thanks again for your time & effort
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: iamasmith on April 27, 2005, 04:12:01 pm
Anyone looking for these cables might want to talk to Marc at TriSoft because he's providing such a cable with every new SL-C3000 that he sells (maybe the 1000 too.. I don't know).

I've got one of his cables and it's really well made.

- Andy
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: beowolf on April 27, 2005, 05:33:24 pm
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dear euroclie

thanks for the nice initiative

speaking of myself, I would _definately_ prefer to spend a couple of bucks more to get them faster!

so count me in for either order, and paypal is my preferred method to send money too!

thanks again for your time & effort
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I agree with steliosx & would pay a bit extra to get the cable now & i can pay by paypal also.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 27, 2005, 08:42:38 pm
OK, that's two users (and half of the cables) in favor of the StreamLineCPUs cables. (as for me, I'll join the decision of the majority, whatever it is...)

Oh, BTW, I just received a kind proposal from them (StreamLineCPUs), they can make us a "special ZUG user" price for such a group order, which would make the cable 10% cheaper!

ztep, systemparadox, would you wait two months or throw $4 in the basket?  
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: ztep on April 28, 2005, 02:32:24 am
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OK, that's two users (and half of the cables) in favor of the StreamLineCPUs cables. (as for me, I'll join the decision of the majority, whatever it is...)

Oh, BTW, I just received a kind proposal from them (StreamLineCPUs), they can make us a "special ZUG user" price for such a group order, which would make the cable 10% cheaper!

ztep, systemparadox, would you wait two months or throw $4 in the basket? 
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If all people prefer the faster option, I agree.
Another question: what about the quality?

Regards,
ztep

P.D. I agree to pay using Paypal
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 28, 2005, 02:55:25 am
OK, then, I think we'll probably order through StreamLineCPUs... I'm just waiting a bit in case Marc from TRISoft has something better to propose, though, or in case someone else decide to join the group order.

I'll be out of reach anyway for the next 24 hours or so, I'll probably make the order next Monday. I'll let you guys know when I have a more precise estimate of the final price, and before ordering, so that you know where you're going.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 28, 2005, 04:55:13 am
Update: TRISoft can ship the cables to me in a mail envelope without adding shipping cost, so the cables would cost 10 Euros (US$13) plus around 2 US$ shipping from my home to your mailbox, so here we're talking about somthing like 12 Euros (15 to 16 US$). That seems interesting to me, especially since the shipping from Germany to France is going to be a lot quicker and safer than US->US->France...

I suggest that order from TRISoft, does that suit everyone? I could send the order Friday (tomorrow) afternoon, and the cables would certainly be available next week...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: ztep on April 28, 2005, 12:32:22 pm
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I suggest that order from TRISoft, does that suit everyone? I could send the order Friday (tomorrow) afternoon, and the cables would certainly be available next week...

That's fine for me.

Ztep
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: systemparadox on April 28, 2005, 04:33:34 pm
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OK, that's two users (and half of the cables) in favor of the StreamLineCPUs cables. (as for me, I'll join the decision of the majority, whatever it is...)

Oh, BTW, I just received a kind proposal from them (StreamLineCPUs), they can make us a "special ZUG user" price for such a group order, which would make the cable 10% cheaper!

ztep, systemparadox, would you wait two months or throw $4 in the basket? 
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I think I prefer the streamlinecpus cable anyway - the surround on the mini-a connector looks smaller and the white/black is definately much better looking with a 6k than the light-grey/brown iriver cable.
I don't mind paying a little extra- it sounds like the shipping isn't going to be too bad.

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Update: TRISoft can ship the cables to me in a mail envelope without adding shipping cost, so the cables would cost 10 Euros (US$13) plus around 2 US$ shipping from my home to your mailbox, so here we're talking about somthing like 12 Euros (15 to 16 US$). That seems interesting to me, especially since the shipping from Germany to France is going to be a lot quicker and safer than US->US->France...

I suggest that order from TRISoft, does that suit everyone? I could send the order Friday (tomorrow) afternoon, and the cables would certainly be available next week...
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Sounds good to me, are the TRISoft cables the same as the streamlinecpus cables?

Thanks a lot euroclie - don't know when or where I would have got one of these otherwise.
Simon
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: Streamline on April 28, 2005, 06:09:00 pm
Yes Trisofts cables are the same that we supply.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: TRIsoft on April 28, 2005, 06:15:08 pm
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Yes Trisofts cables are the same that we supply.
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TRIsoft stuff looks always _very_ similar to the
Streamline stuff.
Can't be different, we're working together  
Need a Zaurus or accessories in the EU? TRIsoft
Need a Zaurus or accessories in the US? Streamline
Problems with a TRIsoft Zaurus in the US? Ask Streamline
Problems with a Streamline Zaurus in the EU? Ask TRIsoft

It's easy  

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on April 29, 2005, 10:31:08 am
OK, I'm initiating the order of 10 cables from TRIsoft...

I'll let you know as soon as the order is processed (i.e. when the payment will be done and the parcel shipped to me).

I wanted to thank both StreamLineCPUs and TRISoft for their help, it's rare to see this level of customer care in the PDA or computer industry, but then maybe that's a "Linux attitude" collateral effect...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: steliosx on May 03, 2005, 05:13:29 am
hello euroclie,

any news?

thanks
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on May 03, 2005, 08:01:53 am
OK, Marc from TRISoft has posted the cables yesterday, they weren't in my mailbox this morning, so hopefully they'll be there tomorrow...

If that's the case, I'll post them immediately, so I need everyone involved to send me ASAP the appropriate mail address to ship the cable(s) to.

If the cables aren't in my mailbox tomorrow, then I'll post them next monday (because I'll be away from home for 4 days starting tomorrow evening). Keep your fingers crossed!
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on May 04, 2005, 10:52:35 am
Still waiting for the cables to arrive... I'm leaving in a couple of hours now, so it seems unlikely that they'll make it to my mailbox before I depart.

If you don't hear anything from me today, assume that they didn't arrive, and that I'll get them next Monday at worst. I'll then ship them ASAP.

Sorry about the delay, guys... You wouldn't believe how many time I've refreshed the parcel tracking page - to no avail, as it hasn't changed a bit since yesterday evening.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on May 06, 2005, 03:20:06 pm
OK, it seems the parcel has finally been delivered at my home while I'm traveling, I should be able to send the cables on Monday morning...
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: euroclie on May 09, 2005, 10:41:12 am
OK, the cables have arrived while I was away, I've packaged them indicidually and posted them early this afternoon, they're on their way to your mailboxes!

I'll PM you individually with the exact price in a couple of hours...

Happy Zaurusing!
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: systemparadox on May 11, 2005, 03:59:01 pm
WOOHOO!!! MY CABLES CAME TODAY!!! My 6k now rivals laptops!
*goes and buys every usb device he can find- ethernet, bluetooth, mice, hubs, card readers...*
         

My USB flash disk and a mini-hub worked out the box, my usb mouse lights up (need to find out how to get it to do something with QPE) and my SL-5500 will charge off it (I think I messed up the 5500's USB settings ).

A big thankyou to Trisoft, StreamlineCPUs, and of course, Euroclie.
Title: Usb Host Adapter
Post by: Streamline on May 11, 2005, 07:31:02 pm
Glad we can help.