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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 18, 2005, 12:33:54 pm
Moin!

You can download KDE-Pim/Pi 2.1.0 here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=112604 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604)

Enjoy!

z.



********** VERSION 2.1.0 ************

Stable release 2.1.0!

Summary of changes/fixes compared to version 2.0.6:

Many bugs of version 2.0.6 fixed.
Most of them were small bugs, but some of them were important.
It is recommended to use version 2.1.0 and not version 2.0.6.

Important changes:

Added recurring todos to KO/Pi.

Added global application font settings (for all KDE-Pim/Pi apps) to the general settings.

Made Passwordmanager PwM/Pi more userfriendly: Rearranged some toolbar icons, optimized setting of focus, fixed layout problems and more.

Datenavigator can now display many months. Very useful on the desktop.

KO/Pi alarm applet changed: Made buttons in alarm dialog much bigger and other usebility enhancements.

Made alarm sound working on Linux desktop.

Made KO/Pi and KA/Pi running from a memory stick. Please read storage HowTo for details.

Added timetracking feature in KO/Pi todo view. Please read timetraker HowTo for details.

Many other usebility enhancements.
Special thanks to Ben for his suggestions!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Chaos on April 18, 2005, 01:18:05 pm
I'll be sure to add this to my ROM this weekend.

A quick question... Other than the version numbers on the libraries, have any other files been added or renamed? (Such as the graphics?)

If I know, it means I won't have to re-link everything - just the things I know have been changed...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 18, 2005, 01:28:14 pm
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I'll be sure to add this to my ROM this weekend.

A quick question... Other than the version numbers on the libraries, have any other files been added or renamed? (Such as the graphics?)

If I know, it means I won't have to re-link everything - just the things I know have been changed...
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I added/removed no directories, but I added some icons to the icon directories, e.g. kdepim/kaddressbook/icons22/ic_*.png

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Chaos on April 18, 2005, 03:23:47 pm
Thanks. That helps a fair bit.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: cybersphinx on April 19, 2005, 07:48:06 am
Hi!

First, I really like KO/PI, it does more than I need . I'm currently using the version that was in the Cacko feed a few days ago (2.0.26), and I haven't seen a notice in the Changelog since then about the following: In the 'What's next'-view, ToDos are ordered according to the date they are created, and not the date they are due (what I think makes more sense). But anyway, thanks for your work!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 19, 2005, 07:50:04 am
Aargh!
I need new glasses or a new brain:
When testing 2.1.0 I did not notice the obvious edit dialog size problem in KO/Pi with 2.1.0.

I fixed it in 2.1.1.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: kahm on April 19, 2005, 10:46:51 am
In v2.1.1, when you change the location of the datafiles (Very important on a 3000, where /home is mounted in a 5mb flash partition), creating the new directory seems to fail silently if something went wrong. I originally set it to /hdd2/kdepim but the directory is owned by root, no directory is created and no error message is given.

It might also be a good idea to detect when you're installing on a 3000 and offer a differnet default installation directory (perhaps /hdd2/Applications) or a dialog indicating that it would be a good idea to change the installation directory.

Failing that, it is a trivial modification of the IPK (through the preinst script) to detect the 3000 and set up a symlink for /home/zaurus/kdepim to somewhere on the HD.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: kahm on April 19, 2005, 10:59:06 am
Additionally, (and this is a minor nitpick), the time pickers on the new event dialog don't respond to changes in the application font very well. I set the application font to be Helvetica, 12pt, regular, and the times don't show completely in the box. (The first digit is cut off.) I reset to Helvetica, 14pt, bold, and they fit fine.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on April 19, 2005, 11:12:21 am
Does this version (2.1.1) include an option to hide sync events in all views? I looked, but couldn't find one.

My default view (month view) is littered with sync events. (T_T)

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: caunt on April 19, 2005, 11:19:26 am
A chorus of thanks Zautrix!

I can't find the forum any longer though, so I guess I'll make a couple of requests here (or they may be questions in that it's already taken care of, but I don't know about it)

- is there/can there be a way to assign a category to all entries when importing a ics file?    (I'm doing this by hand currently - and it's a pain + definitely something a computer does better)

- I ask the above because there are times I would like to be able to mass remove a selected set of entries.  (like an ics import I decided I didn't like).  Is there/ can there be a way to delete selected items?  Find comes up with such a nice list, but I have to go through them one-by-one!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 19, 2005, 11:49:53 am
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A chorus of thanks Zautrix!

I can't find the forum any longer though, so I guess I'll make a couple of requests here (or they may be questions in that it's already taken care of, but I don't know about it)

- is there/can there be a way to assign a category to all entries when importing a ics file?    (I'm doing this by hand currently - and it's a pain + definitely something a computer does better)

- I ask the above because there are times I would like to be able to mass remove a selected set of entries.  (like an ics import I decided I didn't like).  Is there/ can there be a way to delete selected items?  Find comes up with such a nice list, but I have to go through them one-by-one!
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To assign a category to all entries when importing a ics file would be quite useful, yes.
But currently this is not supported.

You can assign/add categories to all selected items in the find dialog.
Or delete all selected items in the find dialog.

Just use the context menu of that dialog ( tap pen and hold ).

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 19, 2005, 11:50:41 am
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Does this version (2.1.1) include an option to hide sync events in all views? I looked, but couldn't find one.

My default view (month view) is littered with sync events. (T_T)

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
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No, there is none.

I will add it to the next version.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: kahm on April 19, 2005, 12:42:19 pm
I had a graphical error where the seperator (I think between the calendar itself and the all day events) got stuck.  I couldn't move it, when I tapped on it the program focused and unfocused (The title bar turned blue, then gray), and when I left Ko/Pi to go to Qtopia the gray "Seperator has focus" bar remained across all the tab windows. I had to un-fast load Ko/pi to get rid of it.

I haven't been able to replicate it yet.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on April 19, 2005, 12:54:19 pm
great work so far,
just why did you decide to map the HW menu key to filter options (in Kopi)?  
I like the functionality of tracking times, spent on todos. Still, it would add ease of use, if starting one todo would stop all others, since you usually can work only on  one task at a time.

Greetz,
j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on April 19, 2005, 01:17:36 pm
First time KDE/PIM user here, so I have no experience with the tool.  

I grabbed the SharpROM package for my 5500 and installed every IPK.  However, Kopiemail complains that it needs "additional packages".  I looked in the release notes and didn't see anything indicating I needed anything other than the items in the zip file.  KA, KO, and KPWM all work, but the OM does not.  

Pointers to where I can get the missing piece?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tovarish on April 19, 2005, 02:07:31 pm
you are missing openssl
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 19, 2005, 02:22:30 pm
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First time KDE/PIM user here, so I have no experience with the tool. 

I grabbed the SharpROM package for my 5500 and installed every IPK.  However, Kopiemail complains that it needs "additional packages".  I looked in the release notes and didn't see anything indicating I needed anything other than the items in the zip file.  KA, KO, and KPWM all work, but the OM does not. 

Pointers to where I can get the missing piece?
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Tovarish is right, you are missing openssl.

Sorry, that is missing in the release notes.

I updated the release notes.

I am using this one:

[a href=\"http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=467]http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=467[/url]

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on April 19, 2005, 08:09:14 pm
Oh hey
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howard Roark on April 19, 2005, 09:04:22 pm
I am new to the Zaurus. Does this version run on the C3000?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: caunt on April 19, 2005, 09:48:10 pm
Another Thanks Zautrix!

>You can assign/add categories to all selected items in the find dialog.
?Or delete all selected items in the find dialog.

>Just use the context menu of that dialog ( tap pen and hold ).

I didn't know that
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bluedevils on April 19, 2005, 09:54:09 pm
Yes, it should run on all linux zaurii and there are versions for linux and windows desktops too.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: aww_berlin on April 20, 2005, 03:07:44 pm
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I had a graphical error where the seperator (I think between the calendar itself and the all day events) got stuck.  I couldn't move it, when I tapped on it the program focused and unfocused (The title bar turned blue, then gray), and when I left Ko/Pi to go to Qtopia the gray "Seperator has focus" bar remained across all the tab windows. I had to un-fast load Ko/pi to get rid of it.

I haven't been able to replicate it yet.
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I experienced the same behavior. The gray bar appeared, when I tried to move the sep erator and remained on the screen even after closing KO/PI.
I'm sure, Zautrix will find the answer :-)

Andreas
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: aww_berlin on April 20, 2005, 03:24:38 pm
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You can assign/add categories to all selected items in the find dialog.
Or delete all selected items in the find dialog.

Just use the context menu of that dialog ( tap pen and hold ).

z.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=75938\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

In KA/Pi there is a nice and easy way to ged rid of all entries with one strike:
Menu "Edit" > "select all" > Delete , and the thing is done.

Maybe it would be nice to have a similar function in KO/PI? Thinking about a dialog with Checkboxes (delete all todos, delete all singular appointments, delete all recurring appointments) and a time spinner (delete all appointments that are older than xy weeks) .
What do you think about it?

Andreas
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 20, 2005, 03:25:48 pm
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Quote
I had a graphical error where the seperator (I think between the calendar itself and the all day events) got stuck.  I couldn't move it, when I tapped on it the program focused and unfocused (The title bar turned blue, then gray), and when I left Ko/Pi to go to Qtopia the gray "Seperator has focus" bar remained across all the tab windows. I had to un-fast load Ko/pi to get rid of it.

I haven't been able to replicate it yet.
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I experienced the same behavior. The gray bar appeared, when I tried to move the sep erator and remained on the screen even after closing KO/PI.
I'm sure, Zautrix will find the answer :-)

Andreas
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Strange!

What Zaurus/Rom are you using?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 20, 2005, 03:27:45 pm
Quote
Quote
You can assign/add categories to all selected items in the find dialog.
Or delete all selected items in the find dialog.

Just use the context menu of that dialog ( tap pen and hold ).

z.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=75938\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

In KA/Pi there is a nice and easy way to ged rid of all entries with one strike:
Menu "Edit" > "select all" > Delete , and the thing is done.

Maybe it would be nice to have a similar function in KO/PI? Thinking about a dialog with Checkboxes (delete all todos, delete all singular appointments, delete all recurring appointments) and a time spinner (delete all appointments that are older than xy weeks) .
What do you think about it?

Andreas
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=76168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Search dialog:
1) Search
2) Select all (context menu)
3) Delete all selected

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: MB Zaurus on April 21, 2005, 02:38:52 am
Thanks for all your work on this.

A couple of quick notes:

On my machine (SL-5000, OE 2.5.3), the bottom of the screen in the "configure" section is cut off in all the apps--I can see the top few pixels of a check box and some text, but not enough to tell what the option is. The configure screens (and the kopiapplet menu) don't seem to respect the system font choices--or at least making the system font smaller--down to 8pt--doesn't bring the text at the bottom of the config screens high enough to see.

In kapi, the search function doesn't search within notes, as it does on the desktop version.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 21, 2005, 03:47:08 am
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Thanks for all your work on this.

A couple of quick notes:

On my machine (SL-5000, OE 2.5.3), the bottom of the screen in the "configure" section is cut off in all the apps--I can see the top few pixels of a check box and some text, but not enough to tell what the option is. The configure screens (and the kopiapplet menu) don't seem to respect the system font choices--or at least making the system font smaller--down to 8pt--doesn't bring the text at the bottom of the config screens high enough to see.

In kapi, the search function doesn't search within notes, as it does on the desktop version.
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What is the "configure" section?
In what application?
What version?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: kahm on April 21, 2005, 09:28:45 am
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Quote
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I had a graphical error where the seperator (I think between the calendar itself and the all day events) got stuck.  I couldn't move it, when I tapped on it the program focused and unfocused (The title bar turned blue, then gray), and when I left Ko/Pi to go to Qtopia the gray "Seperator has focus" bar remained across all the tab windows. I had to un-fast load Ko/pi to get rid of it.

I haven't been able to replicate it yet.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=75952\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I experienced the same behavior. The gray bar appeared, when I tried to move the sep erator and remained on the screen even after closing KO/PI.
I'm sure, Zautrix will find the answer :-)

Andreas
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=76161\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Strange!

What Zaurus/Rom are you using?

z.
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I was using the 3000 with Cacko3k-alpha1.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: aww_berlin on April 21, 2005, 03:05:50 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
I had a graphical error where the seperator (I think between the calendar itself and the all day events) got stuck.  I couldn't move it, when I tapped on it the program focused and unfocused (The title bar turned blue, then gray), and when I left Ko/Pi to go to Qtopia the gray "Seperator has focus" bar remained across all the tab windows. I had to un-fast load Ko/pi to get rid of it.

I haven't been able to replicate it yet.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=75952\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I experienced the same behavior. The gray bar appeared, when I tried to move the sep erator and remained on the screen even after closing KO/PI.
I'm sure, Zautrix will find the answer :-)

Andreas
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=76161\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Strange!

What Zaurus/Rom are you using?

z.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=76169\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

SL-C1000 with Sharp-ROM

Andreas
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: mimeca on April 21, 2005, 03:14:39 pm
Hi

I have installed Ko/PI 2.1. The kopi runs, but there isn't icons. I get this message:

loading conf file /etc/ipkg.conf
loading conf file /etc/ipkg/arch.conf
Installing kapi (2.1.1-r0) to sd...
Configuring kapi
Linking packages installed in: sd
Error linkling '/media/card/packages/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/korganizer/fileexport.png' to '/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/korganizer/fileexport.png'....

Some sugestion ?

(Edited)
Kkopi version from pi-sync works. All the icon appear.. It looks it's a Openzaurus feed problem
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on April 21, 2005, 05:17:49 pm
Hi,
in Kopi 2.11, the menu key is still mapped to filter options. Is this intentionally?

Greetz,
j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 21, 2005, 06:17:16 pm
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Hi,
in Kopi 2.11, the menu key is still mapped to filter options. Is this intentionally?


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No, I will try to change this.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 21, 2005, 08:26:16 pm
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Moin!

You can download KDE-Pim/Pi 2.1.0 here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=112604 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604)

Enjoy!

z.
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Zautrix, it's great to see a new stable version is released!

I downloaded and installed kdepim 2.1.1 on my C3000 (ShaprROM), everything was fine until I tried to type in chinese or japanese characters into the address book, the problem is that: the typed alphabetic letters are supposed to be caught by the input bar at the bottom of screen, but actually all typed letters entered the active field of address book directly as if there was no Asian input method. The result of this problem is that I cannot use any Asian characters in address book! But this problem does NOT exist in the Email program and the Organizer program. I CAN use Asian characters in both programs without any problems.

So the conclusion is that this problem must reflect a BUG in the AddressBook program. I remember I can type in Asian characters in the AddressBook of earlier version of KDEPIM.

Please fix this bug and then I can start using KDEPIM from now on. Thanks a lot!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on April 21, 2005, 09:11:37 pm
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the typed alphabetic letters are supposed to be caught by the input bar at the bottom of screen, but actually all typed letters entered the active field of address book directly as if there was no Asian input method. The result of this problem is that I cannot use any Asian characters in address book!

What input method are you using? Sharp's built-in Japanese input method works fine with kapi 2.1.1, for me at least.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 22, 2005, 11:07:38 am
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Quote
the typed alphabetic letters are supposed to be caught by the input bar at the bottom of screen, but actually all typed letters entered the active field of address book directly as if there was no Asian input method. The result of this problem is that I cannot use any Asian characters in address book!

What input method are you using? Sharp's built-in Japanese input method works fine with kapi 2.1.1, for me at least.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
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I am using murphytalk.pinyin Chinese input method. And I am using TRIsoft's backup image (http://www.trisoft.de/download/C3000-2005-03-18-12-30.zip). The point is that the same input method works fine for the kopi and ompi, but not for kapi, so I think it's the problem of kapi, not the input method, right?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 22, 2005, 06:02:24 pm
OK, I hope I have all problems solved.
(But not the strange KA/Pi Chinese input problem from shreks).

Please try again - and test the new backup feature!:

********** VERSION 2.1.2 ************

Fixed a problem closing the alarm dialog on Zaurus with "OK" button.

Fixed a problem when importing data from Outlook with mutiple categories set.

Changed display of days in datenavigator:
Birthdays are now blue, not dark green.
When todo view is shown, no birtdays are shown and days with due todos are shown blue.
When journal view is shown, only holidays are shown and days with journals are blue.

Added Backup options to global config:
You can create now x-daily backups for KO/Pi, KA/Pi (for file resources only, file resource is the standard type) and PwM/Pi ( all files you will open ).
It is recommended to use another HDD/Memory card for the backup directory. If (very useful on the Zaurus) the specified backup directory does not exist you are asked if you want to try again to create a backup. That makes it possible to insert your memory card in the Zaurus and then trying again.
The backup is created when the application wants to save for the first time on a backup-day. You can specify the amount of backups and the day interval of backups.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 22, 2005, 06:52:41 pm
Zautrix, you are sooo fast! Good guy!

I just remember that my locale.conf is still set to English, let me go home and try other language options to see if the problem can be fixed. I also don't know why the input method works for other component programs of kdepim than the Address Book, it's really really weird!

I will report back to you anything I find.


Quote
OK, I hope I have all problems solved.
(But not the strange KA/Pi Chinese input problem from shreks).

Please try again - and test the new backup feature!:

********** VERSION 2.1.2 ************

Fixed a problem closing the alarm dialog on Zaurus with "OK" button.

Fixed a problem when importing data from Outlook with mutiple categories set.

Changed display of days in datenavigator:
Birthdays are now blue, not dark green.
When todo view is shown, no birtdays are shown and days with due todos are shown blue.
When journal view is shown, only holidays are shown and days with journals are blue.

Added Backup options to global config:
You can create now x-daily backups for KO/Pi, KA/Pi (for file resources only, file resource is the standard type) and PwM/Pi ( all files you will open ).
It is recommended to use another HDD/Memory card for the backup directory. If (very useful on the Zaurus) the specified backup directory does not exist you are asked if you want to try again to create a backup. That makes it possible to insert your memory card in the Zaurus and then trying again.
The backup is created when the application wants to save for the first time on a backup-day. You can specify the amount of backups and the day interval of backups.
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 22, 2005, 07:17:57 pm
I thought it is time to tell the world about about KDE-PIM/Pi.

It seems to wotk quite well...

Our initial article on dot.kde.org:

http://dot.kde.org/1114105085/ (http://dot.kde.org/1114105085/)

A German news site:

http://www.golem.de/0504/37658.html (http://www.golem.de/0504/37658.html)

And the linuxdevices:

http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7388170102.html (http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7388170102.html)

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: dreadlocks on April 22, 2005, 08:20:41 pm
you should create a project page on ELSI, http://www.elsix.org (http://www.elsix.org)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 22, 2005, 09:12:16 pm
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you should create a project page on ELSI, http://www.elsix.org (http://www.elsix.org)
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Already there :

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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on April 24, 2005, 05:18:06 pm
Wow, you're a speedy guy.  Are you just locked in a box with nothing but a terminal or something?

Is the Undo menu option supposed to do something?  It keeps telling me "nothing to undelete" or something like that.  

Being the doofus that i am, i find myself more frequently than i like to admit changing the range of a recurring event so that it disappears into the void.  How can i get such an even back without undo?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: nequiem on April 24, 2005, 05:20:45 pm
I want to thank Lutz for the work on Kopi. It has almost completely supplanted my dependence on Outlook as a memory enhancement tool.  

I have one question on 2.1.2.  The kopie-alarm menu item "What's Todo???" has been  commented out in simplealarmdaemonimpl.cpp and I was wondering if it would be back? I just found it very easy and convenient to have the todo call in the menu. I added a script & .desktop file on the Zaurus to run "kopi -showTodo" but it doesn't fastload. I would go back to an older version but I like the new alarm dialog in 2.1.2. I suppose it was taken out because of the larger font size? Just wondering. Thanks!

-neq
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 24, 2005, 05:40:00 pm
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I want to thank Lutz for the work on Kopi. It has almost completely supplanted my dependence on Outlook as a memory enhancement tool.  

I have one question on 2.1.2.  The kopie-alarm menu item "What's Todo???" has been  commented out in simplealarmdaemonimpl.cpp and I was wondering if it would be back? I just found it very easy and convenient to have the todo call in the menu. I added a script & .desktop file on the Zaurus to run "kopi -showTodo" but it doesn't fastload. I would go back to an older version but I like the new alarm dialog in 2.1.2. I suppose it was taken out because of the larger font size?

You are right!

But I will enable it again and move the "simulate"  main menu entry to the "play beeps" submenu.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: nequiem on April 24, 2005, 08:03:02 pm
Thank you, sir!    

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You are right!

But I will enable it again and move the "simulate"  main menu entry to the "play beeps" submenu.

z.
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on April 25, 2005, 01:19:43 pm
Hi,
i'm allmost, but not quite, totally contented with the latest version.
I'll have to dig deeper to find anything left to complain about.  
Great work!

j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tone on April 25, 2005, 07:09:27 pm
hi,

i'm proud & recent owner of a c3000.

i have imported my address db - a not so huge 500kb vcf file. i am using KA/Pi for an addressbook.

i have found KA/pi to be cripplingly slow - not only to load, but also to search. A few mins loading, and maybe 15 seconds for a name search.

does anyone share this problem? has anyone solved it?

I think I have set the internal format to binary; i have no extensions listed.

Thanks,

Tony
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 26, 2005, 10:59:13 pm
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OK, I hope I have all problems solved.
(But not the strange KA/Pi Chinese input problem from shreks).

Please try again - and test the new backup feature!:

********** VERSION 2.1.2 ************

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I found a BUG in the address book:

When I used the address book to import a CSV file, I was asked to match up each colum of CSV file to corresponding field supported by kapi. This is done through choosing a pull-down menu at each column. But I found out that one field is missing: CATEGORY, to store the categroy that a contact belongs to, such as Family, Friend, Business etc. Since my CSV file was created by Yahoo! Address Book, it contains a column of CATEGORY which is also supported by KAPI. Actually this bug exists in many early versions of KAPI but I forgot to report it. Now I started using kdepim seriously and found this bug stays in my way to start.

Another question is: the email client currently does not support cutomized encoding options, right? how about just add UTF-8 support because it is the easiest way to support multiple languages since kdepim support choosing customized fonts.

Zautrix, Good Work!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 27, 2005, 03:21:21 am
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I found a BUG in the address book:

When I used the address book to import a CSV file, I was asked to match up each colum of CSV file to corresponding field supported by kapi. This is done through choosing a pull-down menu at each column. But I found out that one field is missing: CATEGORY, to store the categroy that a contact belongs to, such as Family, Friend, Business etc. Since my CSV file was created by Yahoo! Address Book, it contains a column of CATEGORY which is also supported by KAPI. Actually this bug exists in many early versions of KAPI but I forgot to report it. Now I started using kdepim seriously and found this bug stays in my way to start.

Another question is: the email client currently does not support cutomized encoding options, right? how about just add UTF-8 support because it is the easiest way to support multiple languages since kdepim support choosing customized fonts.

Zautrix, Good Work!
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I have to admit that I never had a look at the csv import code and never tested csv import.

Can you please send me a problematic file as an example?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 27, 2005, 12:49:18 pm
I have sent you a sample UTF8-encoded CSV file created by Yahoo! Mail to zautrix@users.sourceforge.net. You use it to test KAPI.

Another problem I found in KAPI is that the data file "kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf" used by KAPI accidentally breaks some double-byte characters used by Asian language. Therefore I added some Chinese characters in the comment field of the last contact in the CSV file. You can see this problem if you open std.vcf in vim directly.

Let me know if you need more help. Thanks!

Shreks

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I found a BUG in the address book:

When I used the address book to import a CSV file, I was asked to match up each colum of CSV file to corresponding field supported by kapi. This is done through choosing a pull-down menu at each column. But I found out that one field is missing: CATEGORY, to store the categroy that a contact belongs to, such as Family, Friend, Business etc. Since my CSV file was created by Yahoo! Address Book, it contains a column of CATEGORY which is also supported by KAPI. Actually this bug exists in many early versions of KAPI but I forgot to report it. Now I started using kdepim seriously and found this bug stays in my way to start.

Another question is: the email client currently does not support cutomized encoding options, right? how about just add UTF-8 support because it is the easiest way to support multiple languages since kdepim support choosing customized fonts.

Zautrix, Good Work!
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I have to admit that I never had a look at the csv import code and never tested csv import.

Can you please send me a problematic file as an example?

z.
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on April 27, 2005, 03:06:09 pm
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i have imported my address db - a not so huge 500kb vcf file. i am using KA/Pi for an addressbook.
i have found KA/pi to be cripplingly slow - not only to load, but also to search. A few mins loading, and maybe 15 seconds for a name search.
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Half a meg of contacts is quite a bit. Jesus.
Loading the app takes a couple of seconds once it has fastloaded (granted, that takes hours, but nobody cares)
Searching takes milliseconds on my Z (search as you type is quite usable). You should disable search as you type and see of that improves it.
While I worked with Z on usability we enable SAYT by default, and it searches all info by default, which is very nice if you want to search fast, but's quite resource-intensive.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 28, 2005, 04:01:15 am
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I have sent you a sample UTF8-encoded CSV file created by Yahoo! Mail to zautrix@users.sourceforge.net. You use it to test KAPI.

Another problem I found in KAPI is that the data file "kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf" used by KAPI accidentally breaks some double-byte characters used by Asian language. Therefore I added some Chinese characters in the comment field of the last contact in the CSV file. You can see this problem if you open std.vcf in vim directly.

Let me know if you need more help. Thanks!

Shreks

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Thx for the sample file.

I hope I have fixed the problems. Please try new version 2.1.3 and let me know if it works or not.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on April 28, 2005, 11:04:56 pm
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I have sent you a sample UTF8-encoded CSV file created by Yahoo! Mail to zautrix@users.sourceforge.net. You use it to test KAPI.

Another problem I found in KAPI is that the data file "kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf" used by KAPI accidentally breaks some double-byte characters used by Asian language. Therefore I added some Chinese characters in the comment field of the last contact in the CSV file. You can see this problem if you open std.vcf in vim directly.

Let me know if you need more help. Thanks!

Shreks

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Thx for the sample file.

I hope I have fixed the problems. Please try new version 2.1.3 and let me know if it works or not.

z.
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I tried 2.1.3 and test the import function of CVS file, the missing "CATEGORY" is added and works correctly. So far I found one more bug:

When a CSV file is imported, the BIRTHDAY field can be selected to match the actual column of birthdays. But after importing, the actual contacts in KAPI do NOT contain birthday information. I think it was left out by accident.

I have another suggestion which I think is critical:
For all columns of data in CSV which cannot be matched to any pre-defined fields of KAPI, it is better use "NOTES" filed (predefined in KAPI)to include all unmatched data such that all information in user's CSV file is kept. Right now KAPI simply discards all "UNDEFINED" data, which may usually lose significant amount of data in CSV file. After importing CSV file, user can manually move unclassified data from NOTES area to corresponding places. Does this sound good?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 29, 2005, 04:09:00 am
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I tried 2.1.3 and test the import function of CVS file, the missing "CATEGORY" is added and works correctly. So far I found one more bug:

When a CSV file is imported, the BIRTHDAY field can be selected to match the actual column of birthdays. But after importing, the actual contacts in KAPI do NOT contain birthday information. I think it was left out by accident.
Ok, I will look at this problem.
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I have another suggestion which I think is critical:
For all columns of data in CSV which cannot be matched to any pre-defined fields of KAPI, it is better use "NOTES" filed (predefined in KAPI)to include all unmatched data such that all information in user's CSV file is kept. Right now KAPI simply discards all "UNDEFINED" data, which may usually lose significant amount of data in CSV file. After importing CSV file, user can manually move unclassified data from NOTES area to corresponding places. Does this sound good?
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Yes that sounds good. It is already possible, but the user has to do it by himself.
I added the possibility to map many fields to the "notes" field.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: steven999 on April 30, 2005, 04:09:10 am
Hi All,

I've recently gotten to using Kde-pim/pi and am enjoying it very much. I was wondering though if anyone has gotten it to work with Fedora Core 3?  I would love to be able to sync my Zaurus 5600 with my laptop.

Thanks,
steven
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on April 30, 2005, 08:37:44 am
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When a CSV file is imported, the BIRTHDAY field can be selected to match the actual column of birthdays. But after importing, the actual contacts in KAPI do NOT contain birthday information. I think it was left out by accident.

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Please try version 2.1.4 and let me know if it works or does not work.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: xjqian on May 01, 2005, 06:46:52 am
newbie here, starting to use.

kdepim_210_for_memory_stick

when ka/pi importing contacts from outlook. the name are not shown in the "formatted name" column at the left. Is this a bug?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on May 01, 2005, 06:59:01 am
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newbie here, starting to use.

kdepim_210_for_memory_stick

when ka/pi importing contacts from outlook. the name are not shown in the "formatted name" column at the left. Is this a bug?
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No, it is because the formatted name is not set in the contact.
You can set it to all contacts with menu: Edit-Change-Set formatted name.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: xjqian on May 01, 2005, 08:04:40 am
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newbie here, starting to use.

kdepim_210_for_memory_stick

when ka/pi importing contacts from outlook. the name are not shown in the "formatted name" column at the left. Is this a bug?
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No, it is because the formatted name is not set in the contact.
You can set it to all contacts with menu: Edit-Change-Set formatted name.

z.
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see. i got it. but i do find a bug in the view-modify view-selected fields. the order of the first three items are wrong. if you specify 1-2-3 in the selected fields, it shows up as 2-3-1.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jpmatrix on May 01, 2005, 10:30:39 am
hi
as upgrading to newer version of KDE/PIM is time consuming (you've to uninstall all first then install all), would you offer a simple script to do it quickly ?
thanks in advance
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on May 01, 2005, 10:38:08 am
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hi
as upgrading to newer version of KDE/PIM is time consuming (you've to uninstall all first then install all), would you offer a simple script to do it quickly ?
thanks in advance
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I agree, please write one and give it to me.

I have to install/deinstall/reinstall it several times before a release to make sure that the bugs are fixed.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on May 01, 2005, 01:36:47 pm
Okay, here's mine...  

I did it in three pieces:

uninst:
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ipkg remove kaddressbook
ipkg remove kmicrokdelibs
ipkg remove kopiemail
ipkg remove korganizer
ipkg remove korganizer-alarm
ipkg remove ksharpPIM-DTMaccess
ipkg remove pwmanager
inst:
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ipkg -force-depends install *.ipk
qcop QPE/System "restart()"

This final one just does a complete update by calling the other two...

update:
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. uninst
. inst

You'll need to modify it slightly to support the exact components that you use.

uninst can be run from anywhere.  inst must be run from a directory containing the ipk's that you want to install (and, therefore, so must update).

Note that this doesn't work with installation to sd or cf (but could be modified easily to do so).

Note also that you must manually activate/deactive fast load (however, automatically activating it can be done pretty easily with a sed-based script to change the .desktop files).

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on May 01, 2005, 03:59:35 pm
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When a CSV file is imported, the BIRTHDAY field can be selected to match the actual column of birthdays. But after importing, the actual contacts in KAPI do NOT contain birthday information. I think it was left out by accident.

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Please try version 2.1.4 and let me know if it works or does not work.
z.
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Frist of all, the mapping function from all columns in CSV data to NOTES is working correctly, great work, Zautrix!!!

Second, I found other bugs in importing CSV:

1) the TITLE field is missing after selecting corresponding title column in CSV and importing the file. I guess the TITLE field when importing a CSV file should appear in the ROLE field in KAPI.

2) After I modified various places of the contacts in KAPI, now I want to quit KAPI and discard all changes. But currently there seems no way to exit KAPI without discarding changes, which means I have to save all changes before exit KAPI, right? One way is to UNDO all changes and then exit KAPI, but if there are too many changes happening, it is not practical to do. So I am wondering if you can add an option when exit KAPI, say:
You are about to quit KAPI and your contacts are changed. Do you want to save the changes before exit: Yes, No, Cancel.

3) In KAPI windows, the left part is a list of contacts, the right part is the details of each contact. Right now, person's name at the detail part is always: <First Name> <Last name>. Since KAPI already has a function to specify the formatted name of each contact (in Edit->Change->Set format name), I think it is perfect to let KAPI use the formatted name of each contact to display the name filed in the detail view of a contact, instead of the fixed "<First Name> <Last name>" pattern. This is because people from different culture have different preferences in displaying their entire names. For example, western people like using "<First Name> <Last name>" but eastern people like using "<Last Name> <First name>". I think KAPI will look more considerate to its users if this feature is added.

4) KAPI's data file "std.vcf" still contains the problem of splitting double-byte UTF-8 characters after importing an UTF8-encoded CSV file. I am trying to figure out how to solve this problem. From what I know, UTF-8 is the encoding mainly used for final saved file, and UCS-4 is the encoding mainly used for internal processing becuase this encoding represent each character, no matter single-byte or double-byte, by four bytes. My guess is that UTF-8 file is read into memory and then converted into UCS-4 encoding. When saving file, all characters are converted back to UTF-8. I will explore this issue more.

Thanks a lot, zautrix!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jpmatrix on May 02, 2005, 06:32:49 am
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Okay, here's mine... 

great! i'll test it ASAP
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 03, 2005, 01:56:22 pm
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uninst:
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ipkg remove kaddressbook
ipkg remove kmicrokdelibs
ipkg remove kopiemail
ipkg remove korganizer
ipkg remove korganizer-alarm
ipkg remove ksharpPIM-DTMaccess
ipkg remove pwmanager
You should check whether they're installed (ipkg status, and grep the output) before issuing an uninstall command. It'd be nice to integrate an unzip commad that expands the distribution zip as well.
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inst:
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ipkg -force-depends install *.ipk
qcop QPE/System "restart()"
Arg. it'd be better to enumerate all the packages you want (like in the first script). If there are other packages in the execution directory, they'll get shoved in as well.
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Note also that you must manually activate/deactive fast load (however, automatically activating it can be done pretty easily with a sed-based script to change the .desktop files).
Since you're restarting anyway, fastload doesn't really matter. It's only important if you want to reload the updated binaries instead of using the ones already loaded in memory before you next reboot.
Don't take my comments wrong, k? Talking's easy, you're doing the actual work.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jpmatrix on May 03, 2005, 04:21:39 pm
thanks Raybert !
your procedure worked great !
even without rebooting
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on May 04, 2005, 02:00:22 pm
- Firstly, the entire K*/PI 2.1.1 package is STUNNING.  I've used Zs for years and this is the very first thing I've seen that makes a Z an usable PIM.  STELLAR WORK.
- I'm not using the mail app yet, nor the phone i'face, so I can't address those.  (wink)

PWM/PI:
- This requires an *unique* entry in the Description field, which I find just slightly bizzarre.  I'm trying to import my zSafe data, because that doesn't run in landscape (pout), and it keeps failing because I have lots of entries with the same "Description".  For instance, at work, I have account data for a dozen users on one server (my account and scads of test accounts with varying permissions).  The description has the server name, then username & password fields have the user/pwd.  I get the first entry for that server, and nothing else.  It makes no sense (to me at any rate [wink]) to put unique descriptors, or duplicate the user's name in the description.  I'd like a checkbox to disable this.  I could use server<n> or some such for each description but that, too, seems hokey.
- When I shut the Z off, and turn it back on, the passwords are still unlocked.  Don't know if this is good or bad, but zSafe requires re-auth on wake-up.  I haven't checked if the password timeout functions when suspended ... that would be okay if it does.
- Some of my "password" data aren't really passwords at all, like the number of miles I have with various airlines.  I don't really want or care for that to be hidden, once the file is decrypted; I just like my data in a common place.  (grin)  I'd find it convenient if the Category edit field, where I can change the labels, would also have a checkbox so the "password" field remains visible at all times.

KO/PI:
- When I eneter an event with an alarm, and click the little notes, the browser doesn't show anything.  Even if I drive to the directory where the Z keeps its .WAV files, there's just a blank screen there.  I can manually enter the full path to a .WAV and it will use it for that event, but I can't pick one.  This actually seems to be the case pretty much any time the file chooser is opened.  <curiosity>Is there a reason why the system default chooser isn't employed?</curiosity>
- The ToDo list is nice, but it doesn't update the percent complete for me, like StageOne does, as I complete subordinate entries.  Instead I have to manually select from fixed "percentages".
- I'd like to be able to re-organize the order of the ToDos manually, instead of having them appear in alphabetecal order.  I can work around that by putting numbers on the parent.
- When I create a sub-task, it doesn't show that new sub-task.  It does put a plus next to the parent of the new sub-task, which I can use to expand, but it doesn't expand right away.  This is minor, but first time I did it, I thought it didn't create the sub-task at all!  (wide grin)
- I'd like the ability to change what's shown in the upper-right, next to the calendar, so it doesn't always show ToDos, just like I can change what appears in the wide, lower part.
- When I hold on an event in the weekly, daily, monthly (any view with the hours on the left and the colored columns in the main area) until the context menu appears, I can't select anything in that content menu.  I can use Actions from the main menu just fine.
- Thanks for your time...

System is a C1000 running Sharp ROM 1.1JP (?) and KO/KA/PWM/PI v2.1.1.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 05, 2005, 08:34:39 am
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- Firstly, the entire K*/PI 2.1.1 package is STUNNING.  I've used Zs for years and this is the very first thing I've seen that makes a Z an usable PIM.  STELLAR WORK.
We aim to please! I'll let Z answer the technical questions, and do the rest.
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- I'm not using the mail app yet, nor the phone i'face, so I can't address those.  (wink)
The mail app is garbage. Z ported it to be able to read his IMAP email on the go (because big IMAP directories trash the default app), and that's about all it's good for. For POP stick to the system client.
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PWM/PI:
- When I shut the Z off, and turn it back on, the passwords are still unlocked.  Don't know if this is good or bad, but zSafe requires re-auth on wake-up.  I haven't checked if the password timeout functions when suspended ... that would be okay if it does.
The timeout is probably not running when suspended, you have to lock the file manually. It's originally a desktop app, so things like that aren't implemented. Maybe Z'll take a crack at it, I don't know.
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- Some of my "password" data aren't really passwords at all, like the number of miles I have with various airlines.  I don't really want or care for that to be hidden, once the file is decrypted; I just like my data in a common place.  (grin)  I'd find it convenient if the Category edit field, where I can change the labels, would also have a checkbox so the "password" field remains visible at all times.
I'm not sure I like that idea  

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- The ToDo list is nice, but it doesn't update the percent complete for me, like StageOne does, as I complete subordinate entries.  Instead I have to manually select from fixed "percentages".
That'd be nice, I'll see if we can work something out. By default it'll mark the children as complete if the parent is, but not the other way around (people don't input everything in their PIM apps).

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- I'd like to be able to re-organize the order of the ToDos manually, instead of having them appear in alphabetecal order.  I can work around that by putting numbers on the parent.
Arg! no. You know you can classify them by any column data you like, right? (priority, %age complete, categories, etc)
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- When I create a sub-task, it doesn't show that new sub-task.  It does put a plus next to the parent of the new sub-task, which I can use to expand, but it doesn't expand right away.  This is minor, but first time I did it, I thought it didn't create the sub-task at all!  (wide grin)
I've been bugging Z about this for a while now. The focus management is still not super-brilliant in most cases, but it takes time to run through everything.
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- I'd like the ability to change what's shown in the upper-right, next to the calendar, so it doesn't always show ToDos, just like I can change what appears in the wide, lower part.
What else would you want in there? The topbar only exists because desktop screens are big enough to handle that much info. When the app was ported it got ported as well, but the whole thing crowds the display really badly, I thought.
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- When I hold on an event in the weekly, daily, monthly (any view with the hours on the left and the colored columns in the main area) until the context menu appears, I can't select anything in that content menu.  I can use Actions from the main menu just fine.
Not sure what you mean... Try unchecking "Block popup until mouse release" in the General options. I asked Z to make it the default on VGA screens at install time, but he probably hasn't had time to do that yet.
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- Thanks for your time...
That'll be $249.
I just asked Z to compile 2.1.4 to all targets so people are on the same base. It fixes quite a few bugs from 2.1.0
Let me know if you run into anymore issues.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on May 05, 2005, 06:12:53 pm
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Don't take my comments wrong, k? Talking's easy, you're doing the actual work.
Comments taken as constructive.  

I should clarify though, that what I posted was a set of scripts I wrote for myself only, designed to serve my needs specifically.  It was not intended as a general purpose solution for anyone to use.  It was intended as something that others could build on to develop their solution, and/or as a demonstration as to how it was done.  Additionally, I can't even take full credit for it because it was derived from a script someone else posted on the forum (sorry, but I forget whom).

Anywho... I will respond to your comments anyway, by way of explanation:

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uninst:
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ipkg remove kaddressbook
ipkg remove kmicrokdelibs
ipkg remove kopiemail
ipkg remove korganizer
ipkg remove korganizer-alarm
ipkg remove ksharpPIM-DTMaccess
ipkg remove pwmanager
You should check whether they're installed (ipkg status, and grep the output) before issuing an uninstall command. It'd be nice to integrate an unzip commad that expands the distribution zip as well.
Since this was designed specifcally for my known configuration, I had no need to check; I knew what I normally install.  Note certain omissions from the full suite.

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inst:
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ipkg -force-depends install *.ipk
qcop QPE/System "restart()"
Arg. it'd be better to enumerate all the packages you want (like in the first script). If there are other packages in the execution directory, they'll get shoved in as well.
I keep my kdepim installations in a dedicated directory on an sd card.  I use tkcZip to manually extract the IPKs that I want (after deleting the old ones) and then I run the script.  So no danger of that in my set-up.

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Note also that you must manually activate/deactive fast load (however, automatically activating it can be done pretty easily with a sed-based script to change the .desktop files).
Since you're restarting anyway, fastload doesn't really matter. It's only important if you want to reload the updated binaries instead of using the ones already loaded in memory before you next reboot.
As a habit, I always deactivate fastload before updating any software, just to make sure that all data is synched to disk (and I think that this is advisable for anyone).  That means, therefore, that I have to re-activate it after the update.  I could re-activate it automatically in the script (as I suggested in my note) but I prefer not to.  I like to run the programs without fastload first to make sure they are working correctly (i.e. not shredding my data, etc.; something of that nature *has* happened to me in the past).

Lastly, all of your suggestions are excellent for a more general purpose tool/installer.  The one piece that is not obvious to me (in creating a full general purpose updater) is how to select the apps from the zip file that you want to install/update (without actually writing an app to do it).

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jh on May 05, 2005, 06:27:19 pm
Alright, so I'm a bit behind, but... Pi-Sync mode is absolutely awesome.  Just set it up today after getting 2.1.1 compiled on my linux box.  Now I have an awesome calendar app on my Z and on my desktop with easy sync.

THANKS!

jason
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on May 06, 2005, 02:31:12 pm
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The timeout is probably not running when suspended, you have to lock the file manually. It's originally a desktop app, so things like that aren't implemented. Maybe Z'll take a crack at it, I don't know.

Actually, the timout never runs.  I left the unit on to see what happens, and the password never times out.  It's easy to lock it, so this is just information.

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I'm not sure I like that idea

This would only apply to the Category where it's selected, not the entire system.  (shrug)  Just a feature request, anyway.  BTW, the main screen shows the password directly, without "Reveal"ing it, so it's Nothin' But A Thang.  (wide grin)

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Arg! no. You know you can classify them by any column data you like, right? (priority, %age complete, categories, etc)

Sure.  I just don't always want them sorted by a visible criteria.  Again, just a feature request.  There are workarounds to make it sort by whatever I want.

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What else would you want in there? The topbar only exists because desktop screens are big enough to handle that much info. When the app was ported it got ported as well, but the whole thing crowds the display really badly, I thought.

True.  I was thinking "What's Next", actually.  (grin)

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Try unchecking "Block popup until mouse release" in the General options.

That be it.  Donkies!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on May 07, 2005, 03:43:40 pm
Okay there, Dr. ev1l, you wanted a better install script, here ya go...    

(see attachment)

This is not yet tested extensively, so use at your own risk.  (I just installed 2.1.4 with it a couple of times and it was fine.)  Also, note that the text & menus may not work so well on a non-clamshell (ie. portrait display).

Here are the usage notes from the script:
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Usage: ./kdepim-installer.sh <kdepim-zip-file>

Instructions:

 1. BACKUP YOUR DATA!!
 2. BACKUP YOUR DATA!! (bears repeating
 3. Disable fastload on all kdepim apps (if applicable).
 4. Copy the ZIPped kdepim suite distribution file to your Zaurus.
 5. Do not extract the contents of the ZIP file.
 6. Copy this script to your Zaurus.
 7. Run this script in the console, passing the name of the
    kdepim ZIP file on the command line.
 8. Follow the prompts.

Notes:

 - This script requires the 'unzip' package to be installed.
 - This script is written for the Sharp ROM and may not work
   as intended on other ROMs.
 - This script does not support installs to CF or SD cards.
 - The script will detect all IPKs in the ZIP file and determine
   which are installed on your system and what the default
   disposition should be for each package.  If no kdepim packages
   are already installed, the default disposition will be to
   install all packages.  If any are installed already, the
   default disposition will be to install/update the ones that
   are already installed and to *not* install the ones that
   aren't.  The script allows you to edit the disposition of all
   packages before proceeding.
 - This script does not utilize the package version numbers,
   allowing you re-install the current version or revert to
   earlier versions.

Enjoy!!    

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 08, 2005, 11:03:31 am
Hey raybert, thanks for the script. I'm running through it now, and there doesn't seem to be any problems with the code iteself. I can think of a couple of things I'd like done differently from a functional point of view, but it's not my prerogative anyway
In any case, i'll try it out and let you know.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on May 09, 2005, 11:05:50 am
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Hey raybert, thanks for the script. I'm running through it now, and there doesn't seem to be any problems with the code iteself. I can think of a couple of things I'd like done differently from a functional point of view, but it's not my prerogative anyway
In any case, i'll try it out and let you know.
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If you have some better ideas for any part of it let me know what they are.  If it doesn't take too long, maybe I'll implement them.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on May 10, 2005, 06:16:45 am
Hey Z,
I was going to finish and post my translations to catalan and spanish, but, it's going to take me a while...
I've just ordered a C-1000, and it's on its way!!! How cool!, I thought. Two hands, two Zs...  

But two days ago I had a wreck with my motorcycle, broke my right hand and til I recover will only have three (painfully) useful fingers on my left hand  
(it's taking me years to write this!   )

Will keep watching your awesome work guys!

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I forgot to say but, just for the reliability worries of the Z, my 5500 was in my backpack and it survived the wreck in perfect conditions. Just had to reboot it a couple of times. I guess the SD card didn't stand very well the Gs of the crash...  
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 10, 2005, 07:38:14 pm
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If you have some better ideas for any part of it let me know what they are.  If it doesn't take too long, maybe I'll implement them.
Sure. Im stuck in bed right now (I hate you, fever!) but I'll let you know
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But two days ago I had a wreck with my motorcycle, broke my right hand and til I recover will only have three (painfully) useful fingers on my left hand   
(it's taking me years to write this!   )
Sorry to hear that. Contributors getting into high-speed crashes are always a worry
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on May 11, 2005, 03:30:21 pm
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If you have some better ideas for any part of it let me know what they are.  If it doesn't take too long, maybe I'll implement them.
Sure. Im stuck in bed right now (I hate you, fever!) but I'll let you know
Bummer.  Get better soon!!  (And you too, JoP!)

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 12, 2005, 11:00:14 am
Also, Z is on holiday, which is why any real work hasn't been done for a while.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on May 12, 2005, 11:00:58 am
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But two days ago I had a wreck with my motorcycle...
- Been there, done that, will always have a limp.  VERY glad to see you're essentially okay, JoP!!  (happy smile)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on May 12, 2005, 11:58:51 am
Thanks a lot, guys, for your support!
Ragnorok, I am sorry to hear you'll always have sequels.
I work on a motorcycle in the mountains, so chances are not good...  


Today I got my new C-1000.. yeeppeee!    (It IS nice!)
I just localed it to english (by zh_TW method)
I hope I will have many things working in few days. I got very tired after a while of using my hands ( I should say fingers, actually   )
I am going to take a look at 2.1.4 and see the improvements! (I am a few versions back, now)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on May 17, 2005, 11:11:00 am
- Me too!  (shrug)  Hope you don't!

- I installed v2.1.4 last night, just 'cause I could, and I don't see any *obvious* differences.  I also installed "kmobildphoneaccess", but it doesn't seem to have done anything, either.  I tried to configure BlueZ to allow multiple channels, and link KA/PI to the phone with it, but that went over like a lead balloon.  Not KA/PI's issue, but I am kinda curious how one gets this to link/sync/talk to a phone?

- I did find a post about KA/PI 2.0.16 where someone in Japan is talking to their phone, but nothing else.  Is there a HowTo for that?  I haven't found one, though it wasn't for lack of trying.  'Course that "trying" thing hasn't always worked in the past!  (snicker)...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on May 17, 2005, 12:11:39 pm
I installed 2.1.0 today in Windoze 98 machine.
There are missing buttons, menus, etc. in Kapi.
Kopi works right, though.
Is this a known issue?

Let me try kmobilephone again and I'll tell you something (or tell us if you got it working)
I tried it with an older version and it somehow worked, but with weird results too. I don't think there's anything new in last versions, either.
I got a Siemens mobile and there are some specific Siemens commands too, but I'm not sure how to use them...

(I've sent this from my c-1k, yeah!)  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on May 17, 2005, 01:15:27 pm
Where is Zautrix? Haven't seen him and his posts for quite a few days. Is he in vacation?

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I installed 2.1.0 today in Windoze 98 machine.
There are missing buttons, menus, etc. in Kapi.
Kopi works right, though.
Is this a known issue?

Let me try kmobilephone again and I'll tell you something (or tell us if you got it working)
I tried it with an older version and it somehow worked, but with weird results too. I don't think there's anything new in last versions, either.
I got a Siemens mobile and there are some specific Siemens commands too, but I'm not sure how to use them...

(I've sent this from my c-1k, yeah!) 
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on May 17, 2005, 02:43:47 pm
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Also, Z is on holiday, which is why any real work hasn't been done for a while.
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Yes, it seems he is.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 17, 2005, 05:45:25 pm
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Where is Zautrix? Haven't seen him and his posts for quite a few days. Is he in vacation?
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Yes. We'll probably have more exciting things to report at the beginning of next month, after the KDEPIM-NL meeting. 3 days of banging + testing code and yelling at lazy maintainers, who wouldn't re-enlist for that shit, i ask of you  

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- Me too!  (shrug)  Hope you don't!
- I installed v2.1.4 last night, just 'cause I could, and I don't see any *obvious* differences.  I also installed "kmobildphoneaccess", but it doesn't seem to have done anything, either.  I tried to configure BlueZ to allow multiple channels, and link KA/PI to the phone with it, but that went over like a lead balloon.  Not KA/PI's issue, but I am kinda curious how one gets this to link/sync/talk to a phone?
Very little bluetooth work/testing has been done, so that tends to go the way of the dodo, yes. I'm hoping we can fix some of that at the meeting.

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- I did find a post about KA/PI 2.0.16 where someone in Japan is talking to their phone, but nothing else.  Is there a HowTo for that?  I haven't found one, though it wasn't for lack of trying.  'Course that "trying" thing hasn't always worked in the past!  (snicker)...
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Writing user-centric doc has been on the todo-list for a while, but it's very time consuming, and as unbelievable as it sounds I do have a private life  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ceffyl on May 28, 2005, 01:44:09 pm
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Writing user-centric doc has been on the todo-list for a while, but it's very time consuming, and as unbelievable as it sounds I do have a private life 
Would you like some help with the documentation? I'm a professional technical writer and write user manuals for a living. While I don't have a lot of free time to commit towards many projects, I'll be happy to start the ground work for a manual by beginning with the most commonly used procedures and expanding from there. (Maybe a KDE-PIM Wiki...?)

It seems the least I can offer for a program that I use every day as my primary PIM. Zaurii: 5500 and a 6000. Available desktop operating systems: Windows XP Home and Professional, Mac OS X 10.3.9, Fedoroa Core 2.

You guys have done an excellent job on the application. It would be nice to contribute documentation to something that might actually be used.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks.

Ceffyl
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on May 30, 2005, 10:56:08 pm
Ceffyl: definitely. You can mail me (ben AT talon DOT nl) and we can get started. What would be best is a basic rundown, then a good/bunch of howto's. Let me know, and thanks
Lutz and I figured out a new phone number edition GUI at the  meeting. We also started a good talk on general purpose syncing with them, so look forward to some improvements there.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: talmage on June 02, 2005, 04:42:30 pm
Hi.  Anyone here have a list of the QCOP messages that KO/Pi and KA/Pi respond to?  I know they respond to raise().  I'm looking for ones that make KO/Pi show a particular piece of itself like the journal or the New Event dialog and ones that make KA/Pi do things like beam my contact info.

I'd like to assign some of these messages to the buttons on my 5500.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 02, 2005, 04:57:04 pm
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Hi.  Anyone here have a list of the QCOP messages that KO/Pi and KA/Pi respond to?  I know they respond to raise().  I'm looking for ones that make KO/Pi show a particular piece of itself like the journal or the New Event dialog and ones that make KA/Pi do things like beam my contact info.
Look in the Alarm applet source (it does exactly that: create new todo/events).
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 03, 2005, 01:38:58 am
Ok... So I finally had enough time to mess around with importing my Outlook 2K data into KDEPIM.  KA/Pi grabbed my data without a hiccup.  So all is looking good there.  However, when I use KO/Pi to import my OL2K records it crashes.  Specifically:

File->Import OL
Select Calendar
Click Import
Watch as thermometer increments to 100%
Click OK on dialog that says 2185 entries were read.
Close the Import dialog

CRASH!

I now have the ever so wonderful "Send/don't send info to M$oft" dialog.  

I did a search for this issue, and as usual, can't find anything about it.  I grabbed the 2.1.0 XP version of the Windoze apps, and the helper DLL's.  So I think I'm good there.  Any suggestions as to how to solve this?

Thx....
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on June 03, 2005, 01:58:39 am
While I have noticed that it has improved over time, one thing that I still find irksome about KO/Pi is the redraw rate. For example, when switching to the Month view, I can see the cell/widget for each day being drawn. I was wondering if double-buffering had ever been considered? Has it already been attempted (or is it already being used?).

I would take a crack at it myself, but I've looked at the source for pim/pi before, and was a little overwhelmed by the complexity (and the not so simple compilation method).

Just an idea.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 03, 2005, 03:25:53 am
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While I have noticed that it has improved over time, one thing that I still find irksome about KO/Pi is the redraw rate. For example, when switching to the Month view, I can see the cell/widget for each day being drawn. I was wondering if double-buffering had ever been considered? Has it already been attempted (or is it already being used?).

I would take a crack at it myself, but I've looked at the source for pim/pi before, and was a little overwhelmed by the complexity (and the not so simple compilation method).

Just an idea.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
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Adding double-buffering to month view would be a lot of work compared what you will gain.
I am using double-buffering in the agenda view.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 03, 2005, 03:31:05 am
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Ok... So I finally had enough time to mess around with importing my Outlook 2K data into KDEPIM.  KA/Pi grabbed my data without a hiccup.  So all is looking good there.  However, when I use KO/Pi to import my OL2K records it crashes.  Specifically:

File->Import OL
Select Calendar
Click Import
Watch as thermometer increments to 100%
Click OK on dialog that says 2185 entries were read.
Close the Import dialog

CRASH!

I now have the ever so wonderful "Send/don't send info to M$oft" dialog. 

I did a search for this issue, and as usual, can't find anything about it.  I grabbed the 2.1.0 XP version of the Windoze apps, and the helper DLL's.  So I think I'm good there.  Any suggestions as to how to solve this?

Thx....
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Thanks for reporting this.

The problem is that import from OL works for me with OL 2002.
Because it crashes after closing the Import dialog it may be some problems with the imported data itself.

Can you try to create another calendar in Outlook with one simple event (only summary set ) and try to import this?

If it still crashes the problem must be the way KO/Pi is closing the import dialog.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 03, 2005, 03:37:01 am
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Writing user-centric doc has been on the todo-list for a while, but it's very time consuming, and as unbelievable as it sounds I do have a private life 
Would you like some help with the documentation? I'm a professional technical writer and write user manuals for a living. While I don't have a lot of free time to commit towards many projects, I'll be happy to start the ground work for a manual by beginning with the most commonly used procedures and expanding from there. (Maybe a KDE-PIM Wiki...?)

It seems the least I can offer for a program that I use every day as my primary PIM. Zaurii: 5500 and a 6000. Available desktop operating systems: Windows XP Home and Professional, Mac OS X 10.3.9, Fedoroa Core 2.

You guys have done an excellent job on the application. It would be nice to contribute documentation to something that might actually be used.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks.

Ceffyl
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That would be really cool!

I have a quite outdated documentation of KO/Pi in MS-Word and html format.

Maybe you can start from this docu to create something up-to-date in html format?

Let me know if you are interested.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on June 03, 2005, 03:40:18 am
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Adding double-buffering to month view would be a lot of work compared what you will gain.
I am using double-buffering in the agenda view.

z.
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Unfortunate, but understandable.

The refresh rate of the calendar view (which I use exclusively) is what originally turned me off of KO/Pi when I first tried it long, long ago, though, as I stated, I have noticed that it has improved. However, I find that it still is not as fast to update as the Sharp calendar or Qualendar (which is based off of the Sharp calendar). I guess I'm just impatient (^^;

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jamesm on June 03, 2005, 03:51:09 am
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Adding double-buffering to month view would be a lot of work compared what you will gain.
I am using double-buffering in the agenda view.

z.
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Unfortunate, but understandable.

The refresh rate of the calendar view (which I use exclusively) is what originally turned me off of KO/Pi when I first tried it long, long ago, though, as I stated, I have noticed that it has improved. However, I find that it still is not as fast to update as the Sharp calendar or Qualendar (which is based off of the Sharp calendar). I guess I'm just impatient (^^;

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
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I assume this redraw rate issue is only a problem on the Z and not on a desktop machine. I've been using KOpi on a Windows XP laptop, used for work, and a linux desktop at home. Neither machine is particularly powerful but I have never noticed this issue.

When my new c3000 arrives soon I'll most probably be putting kopi/kapi on that too so I hope I don't discover this problem.
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Post by: JoP on June 03, 2005, 12:43:41 pm
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When my new c3000 arrives soon I'll most probably be putting kopi/kapi on that too so I hope I don't discover this problem.
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Unfortunately, you'll discover it.  
It does happen in my c1k, tho maybe it is faster than the 5500.
It makes me think, what you said about it doesn't happening in desktop (it doesn't actually). I'll think deeper. (If I don't come back, I might have gone too deep. Not used to deep think, lately)  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 05, 2005, 11:40:11 am
The redraw issue is dur to the anemic processor in the Zaurus. Sharp calendar is fast simply because it's very simple. I suppose thats the case with Qalendar as well, though I haven't tried it.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 05, 2005, 11:18:35 pm
I tried creating a new test calender in O2K and added one or two items to it.  I told KO/Pi to import the entries from the new calender and it works fine.  What suggestion can you make for a next step?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on June 06, 2005, 10:15:58 am
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The redraw issue is dur to the anemic processor in the Zaurus. Sharp calendar is fast simply because it's very simple. I suppose thats the case with Qalendar as well, though I haven't tried it.
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I don't think the blame for the lack of speed can be placed squarely on the processor - most of it seems to come from the OS side.

After seeing some of the latest Palm devices the other day, I decided to pull out my old Clie SJ30 - a Dragonball ~200Mhz (?) based palm - and was amazed at how fast even the older model switched between applications, and how fast the calendar apps quickly switched between views. Granted the resolution might only be half of the Z, and perhaps the featureset might be smaller (though I find Agendus quite capable).

It's true that Sharp's default calendar and Qualendar don't have quite as many features as KO/Pi, and hence might be considered 'simple'. However, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with 'simple' - especially in a PDA, which is how I generally use my Zaurus. I realize that many people want to use the Z as a full laptop, but it's still basically a very flexible PDA ("mobile tool", what have you). Also, does having more features mean that a program should run slower? Isn't that usually referred to as bloat?

Don't get me wrong, I really like KO/Pi... I just wish it was snappier. Again, all the blame can't be put on KO/Pi - a lot of it, I believe, is due to the OS.

I hope the rumored forthcoming Z fixes some of this... those Palms were pretty tempting (if only I could find a Palm-based phone that worked in Japan...).

Just my 2 yen.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 06, 2005, 05:44:11 pm
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I tried creating a new test calender in O2K and added one or two items to it.  I told KO/Pi to import the entries from the new calender and it works fine.  What suggestion can you make for a next step?
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What are you trying to accomplish, exactly?  
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The redraw issue is due to the anemic processor in the Zaurus. Sharp calendar is fast simply because it's very simple. I suppose thats the case with Qalendar as well, though I haven't tried it.
I don't think the blame for the lack of speed can be placed squarely on the processor - most of it seems to come from the OS side.
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It's a combination of silly processor, silly kernel, and kdepim/pi being a silly high level graphical app.
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After seeing some of the latest Palm devices the other day, I decided to pull out my old Clie SJ30 - a Dragonball ~200Mhz (?) based palm - and was amazed at how fast even the older model switched between applications, and how fast the calendar apps quickly switched between views. Granted the resolution might only be half of the Z, and perhaps the featureset might be smaller (though I find Agendus quite capable).
Look at the Palm PIM apps. They don't draw much at all.
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It's true that Sharp's default calendar and Qualendar don't have quite as many features as KO/Pi, and hence might be considered 'simple'. However, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with 'simple' - especially in a PDA, which is how I generally use my Zaurus.
Totally agree. Part of why the Palm apps are very good is because they make very smart feature/functionality/interface compromises. I'd say they maintain about 70%-80% of the kdepim functionality with 20% the interface weight. Pretty impressive, IMHO.
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Also, does having more features mean that a program should run slower? Isn't that usually referred to as bloat?
Depends. I think bloat is a combination of feature creep combined with an interface that allows those features to get in the way of the average user. Kdepim is bloated, but not overly so: it catters to a different crowd that the Palm and Windows Mobile devices.
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Don't get me wrong, I really like KO/Pi... I just wish it was snappier.
Can't argue with you there  but Lutz has been making decent progress in that department. Try and go back to the early version: they're litteraly painful to use.
Kdepimpi is just completely graphic: until the Linux pocket devices pack 3D-accelerators and a hardware-accelerated compositor+renderer, they'll never be as snappy as simple PDA-only apps.
That said, if you (or anyone else for that matter) have concrete suggestions, I'm always more than ready to examine and discuss them. A good idea's a good idea, doesn't matter where it comes from.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 06, 2005, 07:21:20 pm
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I tried creating a new test calender in O2K and added one or two items to it.  I told KO/Pi to import the entries from the new calender and it works fine.  What suggestion can you make for a next step?
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What are you trying to accomplish, exactly?  


Well... based on my earlier post,  I'm trying to import my OL2K calendar data without the Windoze version of KDEPIM generating a GPF and collapsing in on itself.  As I said earlier the import brings up a dialog saying "xxxx entries imported" and then when I click OK the app GPF's.  Z suggested testing with another test calendar, which I did, and the one or two entries I created did import correctly.  So either the quantity of entries or something in my >2000 entries causes KDEPIM(Windoze) to crap out.  I'd rather not audit that number of entries in an attempt to find out why the KO/Pi (Windoze) dies.  Is there another path I can take to transfer my data away from OL2K so that I can move to an app that will let me sync to Linux apps?  

It appears there's a blown pointer in some code that gets invoked by some piece of data in my calendar.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on June 06, 2005, 10:03:12 pm
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That said, if you (or anyone else for that matter) have concrete suggestions, I'm always more than ready to examine and discuss them. A good idea's a good idea, doesn't matter where it comes from.
Sorry, I have no solutions, only complaints... afterall, I'm originally from the States. (^^;;

I would like to play with the KO/Pi source, but the last time I looked at it I found the compilation method to be a rather daunting task; if I remember correctly, correct compilation went as far as requiring the modification of certain system headers and such.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 07, 2005, 05:02:49 am
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Sorry, I have no solutions, only complaints... afterall, I'm originally from the States. (^^;;
You can word your suggestions here, there's no need to implement them yourself.
Howitzer, I think Lutz is going to have to take a look at your problem himself.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 07, 2005, 12:54:54 pm
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I tried creating a new test calender in O2K and added one or two items to it.  I told KO/Pi to import the entries from the new calender and it works fine.  What suggestion can you make for a next step?
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Please try to import your 2000 events with version 2.1.5 and let me know if it works.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 07, 2005, 01:04:57 pm
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Please try to import your 2000 events with version 2.1.5 and let me know if it works.

z.
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Will do...  I was starting to look into how to build the XP version of the tool in order to find out where in the code it was dying, and perhaps give feedback on what data was killing the app.  However, it was a bit confusing as to what I needed to compile, and I hadn't had time to figure out what tools I need to build the XP version.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 07, 2005, 09:04:40 pm
Raybert, your script fails with the wrong error if you put the uncompressed files in the directory instead of the one big archive.
As a separate matter, do you think it would help to have a build HOWTO for kdepim/pi?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 07, 2005, 11:18:16 pm
Unfortunately Z... the latest 2.1.5 version does not solve the problem.  Looks like I may have to abandon my old calendar information and just move forward without it.  I really don't have a lot of time right now to try and set up a compile/debug ability to chase this.  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 08, 2005, 10:56:15 am
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Raybert, your script fails with the wrong error if you put the uncompressed files in the directory instead of the one big archive.
As a separate matter, do you think it would help to have a build HOWTO for kdepim/pi?
The script was designed to work only with the ZIP file, as this seems the easier thing to do.  Why unzip and copy the individual files when you can just copy the ZIP?  OTOH, I have already thought about modifying it to support this anyway; it wouldn't be terribly hard and flexibility is always a good thing.   BTW, what is the error message that you referred to (and what were you expecting)?

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As a separate matter, do you think it would help to have a build HOWTO for kdepim/pi?
Are you asking me?  I have never tried building it (although I've thought about it, and maybe submitting some patches).  From some recent comments though it does sound like a brief HOWTO would be helpful.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 08, 2005, 12:31:11 pm
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BTW, what is the error message that you referred to (and what were you expecting)?
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I got the "no unzip" message (instead of the no zip file). I may have been logged in as zaurus instead of root though.
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Are you asking me?
Asking anyone, really. It seems that several people could be contributing, but setting up the development environment seems non-trivial.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on June 08, 2005, 12:55:52 pm
This 2.1.5 version is very nice! Zautrix rocks!

I focused on testing the address book. I found that kapi now can import Yahoo CVS file correctly since many bugs, e.g. Role and Note, have been fixed. Now everything can be imported into kapi without losing any information (thanks to the Note field). I also noticed that kapi now can display person's name in detailed view according to the formatted name which can be customized, this is very good for using kapi in an international environment.

I will keep using kapi and kopi, and report back any bugs that I find in the future.

Great masterpiece, Zautrix! Thank you!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: maslovsky on June 09, 2005, 11:42:27 am
There is a bug for quite a while, which I kept forgetting to report - non latin characters (again!) are not displayed with alarm notification. It's easy to reproduce - create a calendar entry, using non-latin chars in title or notes, set alarm and watch alarm go off without any text message.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 09, 2005, 02:30:52 pm
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There is a bug for quite a while, which I kept forgetting to report - non latin characters (again!) are not displayed with alarm notification. It's easy to reproduce - create a calendar entry, using non-latin chars in title or notes, set alarm and watch alarm go off without any text message.
Thanks, I'll add that to our DB.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 09, 2005, 04:51:42 pm
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BTW, what is the error message that you referred to (and what were you expecting)?
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I got the "no unzip" message (instead of the no zip file). I may have been logged in as zaurus instead of root though.
It's looking for unzip at "/bin/unzip".  I guess that may not work if you installed it to SD|CF though.  I should probably change that.  Do you have unzip on your Z and, if so, where is it installed to (what does "which unzip" say)?

The current version requires a ZIP file so it always checks for unzip.  If I change the script to support unzipped ipks then this check is unnecessary and I'll move it so it doesn't execute in that case.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Howitzer on June 10, 2005, 01:30:45 pm
Interesting artifact....  I tried, I don't know why, to reimport the OL2K info again while I was trying to figure out how to get PI-Sync working, and noticed as I was working that KO/Pi for Windoze actually had my data.  I then closed the "Import" dialog and the app crashed.  Launching the app again shows my calendar data is in KO/Pi.  Later I deleted the ics file due to an issue with the timezone setting and attempted to reimport the data.  After multiple attempts I finally just left the "Finished importing" dialog up for a long time and watched the size of the ics file.  It finally got to >700K and then I closed the dialog.  KO/Pi crashed, but when I brought it back up, again all my calendar data is there.  

So this brings me to my next issue.... KO/Pi on the Z always runs out of memory during PI-Sync.  I get a "memory is low choose an app to close" dialog with only KO/Pi listed in it and then my Z either reboots, or I have to close KO/Pi.  I'm on a 5500 with the 3.1x Sharp ROM, so I'm stuck at 32/32 memory.  I removed some apps from my system, but I suppose that only removed them from the ramdisk, not the program heap.  Am I just stuck not being able to sync my calendar using a 32M image?  I'm considering creating a network swap drive to perhaps solve the problem.  Seems like thats a step I shouldn't have to take though...

Finally, I think it would be nice to have a primer on how to build the programs from source.  I downloaded the tarball on my RHEL system because I wasn't sure the SUSE RPM would run on RHEL 4.  

This looks like a much better PIM tool than the Sharp versions, but only so long as I can get the whole shooting match to work.....
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Tehas on June 11, 2005, 12:00:32 am
This could be me but I've noticed a problem with repeating appointments that are set up in Outlook (2003) and then synch them to KO/PI.  When they show up on KO/PI, they are one occurance too few.  For example, I scheduled a recurring Friday afternoon meeting starting today and running through 6/24 (3 Fridays).  When I synch and then look at KO, it shows a meeting for today and next Friday but not 6/24.  I see the same problem with meetings that repeat daily too (always one short).

Anyone else notice this?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 13, 2005, 09:48:25 am
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It's looking for unzip at "/bin/unzip".  I guess that may not work if you installed it to SD|CF though.  I should probably change that.  Do you have unzip on your Z and, if so, where is it installed to (what does "which unzip" say)?

The current version requires a ZIP file so it always checks for unzip.  If I change the script to support unzipped ipks then this check is unnecessary and I'll move it so it doesn't execute in that case.

~ray
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unzip's installed (by default on Cacko  )
I don't get what the problem was. Your script seems correct, but when I executed it with only the ipk's in the same directory, I got the no unzip error instead of no archive. weird.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 13, 2005, 09:59:59 am
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So this brings me to my next issue.... KO/Pi on the Z always runs out of memory during PI-Sync.  I get a "memory is low choose an app to close" dialog with only KO/Pi listed in it and then my Z either reboots, or I have to close KO/Pi.  I'm on a 5500 with the 3.1x Sharp ROM, so I'm stuck at 32/32 memory.  I removed some apps from my system, but I suppose that only removed them from the ramdisk, not the program heap.  Am I just stuck not being able to sync my calendar using a 32M image?  I'm considering creating a network swap drive to perhaps solve the problem.  Seems like thats a step I shouldn't have to take though...
Shove a swap partition/file on an SD card and use that. That's what I do when using Opera, which is just as memory hungry. Implementing an archiving/limited datespan sync will help that as well. That kinda stuff is the reason you see everyone screaming bloody murder each time Sharp puts out a new PDA with the same 64mb of RAM.

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Finally, I think it would be nice to have a primer on how to build the programs from source.  I downloaded the tarball on my RHEL system because I wasn't sure the SUSE RPM would run on RHEL 4. 
Yeah I'll tell Zautrix.

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This could be me but I've noticed a problem with repeating appointments that are set up in Outlook (2003) and then synch them to KO/PI.
I don't have Outlook so I can't test that (when I did, the sync to the Sharp apps was busted anyway   ). If zautrix does he can take a look.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 13, 2005, 10:57:49 am
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It's looking for unzip at "/bin/unzip".  I guess that may not work if you installed it to SD|CF though.  I should probably change that.  Do you have unzip on your Z and, if so, where is it installed to (what does "which unzip" say)?

The current version requires a ZIP file so it always checks for unzip.  If I change the script to support unzipped ipks then this check is unnecessary and I'll move it so it doesn't execute in that case.

~ray
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unzip's installed (by default on Cacko  )
I don't get what the problem was. Your script seems correct, but when I executed it with only the ipk's in the same directory, I got the no unzip error instead of no archive. weird.
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That is strange.  So, you're saying that unzip IS installed at "/bin/unzip"?  Maybe I should switch from if [ -x "/bin/unzip"  ] to if [ -x "$(which unzip)" ], or something similar.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: vishnja on June 13, 2005, 05:54:51 pm
I just want to say thanks for this great app!
Today I finally migrated from Opie-PIM to kde-pim/pi 2.1.5 and I'm impressed :-)
It's much more progressed since the earlier versions I tried and I will use ko/pi and ka/pi as my primary PIM now :-)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 15, 2005, 05:42:26 am
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That is strange.  So, you're saying that unzip IS installed at "/bin/unzip"?  Maybe I should switch from if [ -x "/bin/unzip"  ] to if [ -x "$(which unzip)" ], or something similar.
That'd be better, yes. Cacko decided it wouldn't handle wireless anymore, and combined with other problems I had, it made me want to reinstall, so I'm going to test again after that. I tried yesterday, and although the script seems correct, it still cannot find unzip. Very weird.

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I just want to say thanks for this great app!
Today I finally migrated from Opie-PIM to kde-pim/pi 2.1.5 and I'm impressed :-)
It's much more progressed since the earlier versions I tried and I will use ko/pi and ka/pi as my primary PIM now :-)
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You want 2.1.4 in a production environment. 2.15 is the test version (right now with little-tested multiple resource support). Glad you like it, though.
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Post by: zautrix on June 15, 2005, 05:46:46 am
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I just want to say thanks for this great app!
Today I finally migrated from Opie-PIM to kde-pim/pi 2.1.5 and I'm impressed :-)
It's much more progressed since the earlier versions I tried and I will use ko/pi and ka/pi as my primary PIM now :-)
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You want 2.1.4 in a production environment. 2.15 is the test version (right now with little-tested multiple resource support). Glad you like it, though.
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No, 2.1.5 is stable, 2.1.6 is testing.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 15, 2005, 05:54:16 am
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No, 2.1.5 is stable, 2.1.6 is testing.
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I'm an idiot. I was running 2.1.5 as well, you'd think I'd know better  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 15, 2005, 09:19:11 am
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So this brings me to my next issue.... KO/Pi on the Z always runs out of memory during PI-Sync.  I get a "memory is low choose an app to close" dialog with only KO/Pi listed in it and then my Z either reboots, or I have to close KO/Pi.  I'm on a 5500 with the 3.1x Sharp ROM, so I'm stuck at 32/32 memory.  I removed some apps from my system, but I suppose that only removed them from the ramdisk, not the program heap.  Am I just stuck not being able to sync my calendar using a 32M image? 

Where did you start the sync?
I assume from the Z?
If you start it from the Desktop it should not need too much memory on the Z.

z.
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Post by: zautrix on June 15, 2005, 09:21:55 am
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This could be me but I've noticed a problem with repeating appointments that are set up in Outlook (2003) and then synch them to KO/PI.  When they show up on KO/PI, they are one occurance too few.  For example, I scheduled a recurring Friday afternoon meeting starting today and running through 6/24 (3 Fridays).  When I synch and then look at KO, it shows a meeting for today and next Friday but not 6/24.  I see the same problem with meetings that repeat daily too (always one short).

Anyone else notice this?
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What did you do?
Sync Outlook <-> Sharp PIM and then sync Sharp PIM <-> KO/Pi?

If yes, was the event information ok in Sharp Pim after the Outlook <-> Sharp PIM sync?

z.
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Post by: zautrix on June 15, 2005, 09:23:39 am
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Finally, I think it would be nice to have a primer on how to build the programs from source.  I downloaded the tarball on my RHEL system because I wasn't sure the SUSE RPM would run on RHEL 4. 
Yeah I'll tell Zautrix.


There is already info how to compile.

z.
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Post by: raybert on June 15, 2005, 11:28:04 am
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That is strange.  So, you're saying that unzip IS installed at "/bin/unzip"?  Maybe I should switch from if [ -x "/bin/unzip"  ] to if [ -x "$(which unzip)" ], or something similar.
That'd be better, yes. Cacko decided it wouldn't handle wireless anymore, and combined with other problems I had, it made me want to reinstall, so I'm going to test again after that. I tried yesterday, and although the script seems correct, it still cannot find unzip. Very weird.
Have you actually run "which unzip" on your cacko box?  If so, what did it say ("/bin/unzip")?  If not, would you please run it and tell me what it says?  Also, it might be illuminating to run "ls -l" on it.

Thanks!

~ray
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Post by: Howitzer on June 15, 2005, 12:42:22 pm
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So this brings me to my next issue.... KO/Pi on the Z always runs out of memory during PI-Sync.  I get a "memory is low choose an app to close" dialog with only KO/Pi listed in it and then my Z either reboots, or I have to close KO/Pi.  I'm on a 5500 with the 3.1x Sharp ROM, so I'm stuck at 32/32 memory.  I removed some apps from my system, but I suppose that only removed them from the ramdisk, not the program heap.  Am I just stuck not being able to sync my calendar using a 32M image? 

Where did you start the sync?
I assume from the Z?
If you start it from the Desktop it should not need too much memory on the Z.

z.
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It didn't seem to matter where it was started.  It always ran out of memory on the Z.  I finally broke down and created a swap file on my ramdisk.  The problem is solved for now, though it bites not having all of my ramdisk available.  Yes, I could put swap on SD/CF, but I don't like the idea of doing that.  That's one area where the C3000 wins in my opinion, swapfile actually on a HD.

Now I have to figure out how to sync PIM/Pi to Outlook 2K3.  I'm disturbed by what I saw in a previous post.  One of the reasons I'm looking at moving PIM's is that my other Z doesn't sync to O2K3 anymore.  The sync GPF's, making it useless to my fiance.  Does sync from O2K3 to PIM/Pi require a working Intellisync link?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 15, 2005, 05:45:28 pm
Few questions about this great little app, KA

I'm running 2.0.14

When I select "Show Jumpbar" under Settings, which I assume to be the alphabetized column on the right side that I used to see before I was forced to do a total software restore on my C1K, I can't get it to show up. Is that what the jumpbar is? If not can anyone tell me what it was that I was seeing?

What is the difference between filters and categories?

Is there any documentation available beyond the FAQs that are on the pi-sync.net site?

Thanks,

gdog
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Post by: ev1l on June 16, 2005, 08:11:32 am
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Is that what the jumpbar is? If not can anyone tell me what it was that I was seeing?
What is the difference between filters and categories?
Is there any documentation available beyond the FAQs that are on the pi-sync.net site?
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1) yes. cold-restart kapi to apply all settings.

2) a filter can be one, or several categories. (for example all "family" and "France" will get me the French side of my family). The filter functionality is fubar'ed for 3 reasons, though:
 - you can't create an effective "unfiled" filter (you have to exclude all categories instead of including none, so you have to modify your filter every time you add/import a new category)
 - you can't combine includes and excludes in one filter
 - the filter dropdown is dropped in portrait view by default. and enabling it in portrait screws up the search input field.

3) help menu?
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Post by: gdog on June 16, 2005, 11:18:22 am
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1) yes. cold-restart kapi to apply all settings.

2) a filter can be one, or several categories. (for example all "family" and "France" will get me the French side of my family). The filter functionality is fubar'ed for 3 reasons, though:
 - you can't create an effective "unfiled" filter (you have to exclude all categories instead of including none, so you have to modify your filter every time you add/import a new category)
 - you can't combine includes and excludes in one filter
 - the filter dropdown is dropped in portrait view by default. and enabling it in portrait screws up the search input field.

3) help menu?
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Thanks ev1l.

1) Cold restart? Cycling the app doesn't seem to make a difference with the jumpbar. I can see font changes in this manner but not the jumpbar yet. I'll try just that and see if I can get it back, if a cycling of the app is what you mean. Or do you mean the X itself must be rebooted each time a KA change is made? Couldn't imagine that being the situation.

2) fubar aptly used for filtering/categories. Good idea though, especially the way you explained it. But I've never had such a powerful pim app such as that and categories alone would suffice for me.

3) I don't get help screens that actually help. They're pretty much self-evident explanations of what the icons are and don't really explain how to use or customize the app. Same goes for KO. And the documentation out on pi-sync's site is mostly about syncing. I'm looking for manual grade documenation on the functionality of the apps.

Funny thing is I'm on 2.1.14, which I don't even see out on the pi-sync site. Can't even recall where I got it. But I did have the jumpbar working before I was forced for other reasons to reset my device and restore from a backup.

I'll keep plugging away, hoping to get it back as it is a very useful feature.

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Tehas on June 16, 2005, 09:52:40 pm
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What did you do?
Sync Outlook <-> Sharp PIM and then sync Sharp PIM <-> KO/Pi?

If yes, was the event information ok in Sharp Pim after the Outlook <-> Sharp PIM sync?
z.
Yes, I set up a repeating appt in MS Outlook 2003 to start Monday 6/13 and repeat daily at 8:00 ending on Sunday 6/19.  Then I synched with Sharp.  Then synched with KOPI.  

The last event in the KOPI calendar is on 6/18 at 8:00 AM.  The Edit Recurrence Range panel shows Start Date 2005-06-13 and End by 2005-06-18.  

I just fired up the Sharp calendar and it shows the event starting on 6/13 and End On 6/19.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 16, 2005, 11:32:17 pm
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1) Cold restart? Cycling the app doesn't seem to make a difference with the jumpbar. I can see font changes in this manner but not the jumpbar yet. I'll try just that and see if I can get it back, if a cycling of the app is what you mean. Or do you mean the X itself must be rebooted each time a KA change is made? Couldn't imagine that being the situation.
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No just close it, and deselect fastload in the shortcut properties. Then start it again.

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2) fubar aptly used for filtering/categories. Good idea though, especially the way you explained it. But I've never had such a powerful pim app such as that and categories alone would suffice for me.
I'm not quite sure I get your intent. If that helps any, default filters are created for ech category after each cold-restart.

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3) I don't get help screens that actually help. They're pretty much self-evident explanations of what the icons are and don't really explain how to use or customize the app. Same goes for KO. And the documentation out on pi-sync's site is mostly about syncing. I'm looking for manual grade documenation on the functionality of the apps.
Ah yes. Well we don't have that yet, so why don't yougo ahead and ask here, and I'm sure either Z or myself should be able to help. There's not much to put in a manual, IMHO, but ask away if youdisagree

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Funny thing is I'm on 2.1.14, which I don't even see out on the pi-sync site. Can't even recall where I got it. But I did have the jumpbar working before I was forced for other reasons to reset my device and restore from a backup.
You're on 2.0.14, which is actually quite old. Upgrdae to the latest suite, and try again.I must say i can't find a way to activate it either. Weird.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on June 17, 2005, 11:44:16 am
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Funny thing is I'm on 2.1.14, which I don't even see out on the pi-sync site. Can't even recall where I got it.
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You probably did get it (2.0.14) [a href=\"http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604]here,[/url]
when it was available, (do we need it now?   )
I don't know what you mean it isn't listed at pi-sync...  
It appears, unless in Changelog.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 17, 2005, 11:54:59 am
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When I select "Show Jumpbar" under Settings, which I assume to be the alphabetized column on the right side that I used to see before I was forced to do a total software restore on my C1K, I can't get it to show up. Is that what the jumpbar is? If not can anyone tell me what it was that I was seeing?
This might be a dumb question, but I've snagged myself on this one before so I'll throw it out there...

Have you selected a search field other than "All Fields"??  This is done using the drop-down at the far right of the tool bar, beside the search field and above the jump bar.  By default, after a restart, it comes up with "All Fields" and when that is selected the jump bar stays hidden.  This is because the jump bar requires a search field to work against and is therefore not usable when no search field is selected.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 17, 2005, 02:34:16 pm
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This might be a dumb question, but I've snagged myself on this one before so I'll throw it out there...

Have you selected a search field other than "All Fields"??  This is done using the drop-down at the far right of the tool bar, beside the search field and above the jump bar.  By default, after a restart, it comes up with "All Fields" and when that is selected the jump bar stays hidden.  This is because the jump bar requires a search field to work against and is therefore not usable when no search field is selected.

~ray
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ray,
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.  You were right on the money, and that is exactly what the problem was.  I think that what's really behind some of the problems I am having with this app, as well as KO, beyond the lack of good documentation is that they are simply much more sophisticated than any other PIMs I've used on Palm, PPC, HPC, Linux on any of my many handhelds over the years, or even Outlook for that matter. Great apps, and I can't complain of the lack of documentation because after all they are free, but I can lament. Fortunately for folks like me, there're folks like you out there that are quicker on the uptake, and participate in boards like this one.

Thank you,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 18, 2005, 12:26:11 pm
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This might be a dumb question, but I've snagged myself on this one before so I'll throw it out there...

Have you selected a search field other than "All Fields"??  This is done using the drop-down at the far right of the tool bar, beside the search field and above the jump bar.  By default, after a restart, it comes up with "All Fields" and when that is selected the jump bar stays hidden.  This is because the jump bar requires a search field to work against and is therefore not usable when no search field is selected.

~ray
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ray,
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.  You were right on the money, and that is exactly what the problem was.  I think that what's really behind some of the problems I am having with this app, as well as KO, beyond the lack of good documentation is that they are simply much more sophisticated than any other PIMs I've used on Palm, PPC, HPC, Linux on any of my many handhelds over the years, or even Outlook for that matter. Great apps, and I can't complain of the lack of documentation because after all they are free, but I can lament. Fortunately for folks like me, there're folks like you out there that are quicker on the uptake, and participate in boards like this one.

Thank you,

gdog
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dgod, you are quite welcome.  I'm glad I could help.  I doubt I'm any "quicker on the uptake" than you though; as I said, I got snagged on this one myself.  In fact, I found the answer by accident only just in time to stop myself from posting that a new release was broken.  I think I was actually on my way to the keyboard when it happened...

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 20, 2005, 08:19:38 pm
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dgod, you are quite welcome.  I'm glad I could help.  I doubt I'm any "quicker on the uptake" than you though; as I said, I got snagged on this one myself.  In fact, I found the answer by accident only just in time to stop myself from posting that a new release was broken.  I think I was actually on my way to the keyboard when it happened...

~ray
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Here's another one for you Ray. Is there a way to make KO wake up the Z when an appt. is due? I can't seem to find that.

Thanks,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 21, 2005, 10:30:55 am
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Here's another one for you Ray. Is there a way to make KO wake up the Z when an appt. is due? I can't seem to find that.

Thanks,

gdog
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Hmmm... not sure about that one.  That should just work.  Maybe zautrix can suggest something?

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 21, 2005, 11:07:40 am
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Hmmm... not sure about that one.  That should just work.  Maybe zautrix can suggest something?

~ray
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To be honest I have not tested this specifically. I just noticed yesterday that when I turned on my Z it immediately started chirping about an appt. that had come due earlier in the day. I believe I was present and the Z was within hearing distance at that time, but I can't say for certain that was the case. I'll run a test today and see if it works. Somewhat doubtful though...

update: Just ran a test and it definitely will not wake my C1K from Suspend... something that is very important to me. Setting perhaps?

further update: Under Configure preferences there is an Alarm tab. In it there is a checkbox for "Use internal alarm notifcation". Under that it says
"Note: KO/Pi must be running to notify you about an alarm. Recommended for Zaurus: Disable this option and install KO/Pi alarm applet".

Does anyone know where that applet can be found?

further further update: I unchecked that checkbox and ran the same test. Z woke up and let me know about the test appt. So apparently the alarm applet is part of the version I'm running.

ray and zautrix, do either of you know what the most stable release is for the C1K running the stock rom, and where it could be found? zautrix are you the primary (only?), person working on this wonderful app?

Thanks,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: JoP on June 22, 2005, 04:08:45 am
It's in the kdepim zip file of every version.
It's called korganizer-alarm_2.1.8_arm.ipk (whatever version, of course)
If you didn't installed it already then you definitely should. It'll wake your sleepy Z up.  
It works for sure with (many) last versions.

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So you did have it installed already. Then you know what the problem was now. We all are learning a lot here and with these wonderful pieces of soft, aren't we?  

I'm using 2.1.8 version on my c1k an working great so far.  
It is found at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604), as always.
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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on June 22, 2005, 11:24:06 am
gdog,

The alarm applet is very useful.  You should at least try it.  It gives you a tray icon with a pop-up menu containing some useful shortcuts (i.e. create a new event, etc).  Plus, as you've discovered, it minds the alarms when KO/pi isn't running (that's not a problem for me though, since I leave KO/pi fast-loaded).

I would recommend the latest version.  All the latest versions are stable.  If a new release proves to have some nastiness in it, zautrix usually releases a fix within a day or two (zautrix kicks ass, in case you didn't notice already...   So, if you can't afford any downtime, you might want to wait a couple days after a release before installing the new version.  If nothing bad pops up by then, it's probably pretty safe.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 22, 2005, 11:24:34 am
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It's in the kdepim zip file of every version.
It's called korganizer-alarm_2.1.8_arm.ipk (whatever version, of course)
If you didn't installed it already then you definitely should. It'll wake your sleepy Z up.   
It works for sure with (many) last versions.

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So you did have it installed already. Then you know what the problem was now. We all are learning a lot here and with these wonderful pieces of soft, aren't we?   

I'm using 2.1.8 version on my c1k an working great so far.   
It is found at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604), as always.
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Thanks JoP, I'll go out and take a look. Yes mine if waking the X up now as it should. Unless I see something in the release notes of a newer version that makes it advantageous for me to upgrade I may not, as I am a firm believer of "if it isn't broke, don't fix it", and mine is working just fine for me, or so I believe so far.

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 22, 2005, 11:28:58 am
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gdog,

The alarm applet is very useful.  You should at least try it.  It gives you a tray icon with a pop-up menu containing some useful shortcuts (i.e. create a new event, etc).  Plus, as you've discovered, it minds the alarms when KO/pi isn't running (that's not a problem for me though, since I leave KO/pi fast-loaded).

I would recommend the latest version.  All the latest versions are stable.  If a new release proves to have some nastiness in it, zautrix usually releases a fix within a day or two (zautrix kicks ass, in case you didn't notice already...   So, if you can't afford any downtime, you might want to wait a couple days after a release before installing the new version.  If nothing bad pops up by then, it's probably pretty safe.

~ray
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Well that confirms it ray, as I do have that icon in my tool tray, and it must have been contained in the zip package just as JoP said. It's working fine, and I'm getting this C1K more personalized to my tastes everyday. I already like it better than the 6K I used to have, though the screen on the 6K was something that I'd love to see on this little beauty. Who knows that may be Sharp's centerpiece on the 3200 if and when they come out with one....

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: swing on June 23, 2005, 05:43:35 am
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What did you do?
Sync Outlook <-> Sharp PIM and then sync Sharp PIM <-> KO/Pi?

If yes, was the event information ok in Sharp Pim after the Outlook <-> Sharp PIM sync?
z.
Yes, I set up a repeating appt in MS Outlook 2003 to start Monday 6/13 and repeat daily at 8:00 ending on Sunday 6/19.  Then I synched with Sharp.  Then synched with KOPI.  

The last event in the KOPI calendar is on 6/18 at 8:00 AM.  The Edit Recurrence Range panel shows Start Date 2005-06-13 and End by 2005-06-18.  

I just fired up the Sharp calendar and it shows the event starting on 6/13 and End On 6/19.
I have the same issue but in reverse.

I create recurring events in KO/Pi - for example, a weekly event on a Thursday set to End By 30.06.2005 (ie today and next Thursday).  If I sync with Sharp DTM, the Sharp DTM entry has a weekly repeat with "End On: 29 Jun 05", and hence the last event is missing from DTM and also missing from Outlook.

I normally fix this by adding 1 day to KO/Pi - ie the above event, if you set the End by date to 1 July 2005, both today and next week appear in DTM and Outlook.

As such, it appears to be a small bug in the DTM sync routine - or a difference in terms - "End by" (before) versus "End On" (on) - but I think KO/Pi should handle this problem.

However, I haven't yet testing the last couple of KO/Pi releases, so this might be fixed now.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 23, 2005, 03:00:09 pm
Ok, so if I have an appt. that wakes up my Z, it also flashes the Mail LED. Good.

But when it auto-suspends according to my KO settings, or I suspend it without OK'ing the appt. the LED quits blinking. Bad.

Again I'm on 2.1.4. Can anyone recreate that on a later version? Is there are way for KO to keep that LED blinking with the device in Suspend mode?

Thanks!

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 25, 2005, 05:20:07 pm
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But when it auto-suspends according to my KO settings, or I suspend it without OK'ing the appt. the LED quits blinking. Bad.
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That's the way it's supposed to go.

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Again I'm on 2.1.4. Can anyone recreate that on a later version? Is there are way for KO to keep that LED blinking with the device in Suspend mode?
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That's a good question. It makes a lot more sense to have the LED keep blinking once an alarma's gone off until the text time ou wake it, but I don't know whether the LED's control API allow that. Would be pretty nice.

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I would recommend the latest version.  All the latest versions are stable.  If a new release proves to have some nastiness in it, zautrix usually releases a fix within a day or two (zautrix kicks ass, in case you didn't notice already...
~ray
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The next day fixes are the reason you should run stable. Right now there's some experimental multi-resources stuff in latest that you wouldn't want to touch with a ten foot pole.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 25, 2005, 05:38:07 pm
ev1l,

Thanks for the reply.

Not trying to knock any of these apps because they are great. But from a useability perspective, being able to look at my Z without turning it on, and tell if I've got an appt either coming due or is already overdue by seeing the LED blinking is something that some other PIMs have been providing for a long time.  That being said, my statements should only be seen as questions and/or suggestions and not critiques because not only are these apps great, they're also free to those of us who either don't know how to program in this language (like me), or choose not to donate time and effort for the good of the larger community . But it would be very helpful if that functionality was there.

I believe one of my Pocket PC PDAs (I've tried most all platforms before Sharp brought us the Z as we now know it), it was also possible to set the appt. alarm so that it would either wake the device and sound, or blink the alarm LED, or both. And if it woke the device, if it once again auto-suspended due to the owner not responding, the LED would continue to blink, indefintely I seem to recall. Nice functionality that!

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 26, 2005, 04:31:48 am
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Ok, so if I have an appt. that wakes up my Z, it also flashes the Mail LED. Good.

But when it auto-suspends according to my KO settings, or I suspend it without OK'ing the appt. the LED quits blinking. Bad.
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That cannot be changed.
When the Z is in suspend, the LED quits blinking.


z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 26, 2005, 04:34:53 am
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I normally fix this by adding 1 day to KO/Pi - ie the above event, if you set the End by date to 1 July 2005, both today and next week appear in DTM and Outlook.

As such, it appears to be a small bug in the DTM sync routine - or a difference in terms - "End by" (before) versus "End On" (on) - but I think KO/Pi should handle this problem.

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I found the problem.

Will be fixed in next version 2.1.9.

Thanks for reporting!

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 26, 2005, 12:08:42 pm
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Ok, so if I have an appt. that wakes up my Z, it also flashes the Mail LED. Good.

But when it auto-suspends according to my KO settings, or I suspend it without OK'ing the appt. the LED quits blinking. Bad.
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That cannot be changed.
When the Z is in suspend, the LED quits blinking.


z.
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Thanks for the reply in any event zautrix. At least now I know that I have to be more responsible for my own schedule.  

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 26, 2005, 07:25:28 pm
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Not trying to knock any of these apps because they are great. But from a useability perspective, being able to look at my Z without turning it on, and tell if I've got an appt either coming due or is already overdue by seeing the LED blinking is something that some other PIMs have been providing for a long time.  That being said, my statements should only be seen as questions and/or suggestions and not critiques because not only are these apps great, they're also free to those of us who either don't know how to program in this language (like me), or choose not to donate time and effort for the good of the larger community . But it would be very helpful if that functionality was there.
Don't waste your breath (skin?), neither of us gets upset easily  
Z's already confirmed the platform won't allow it, so your best bet is to not auto-suspend it. Don't let your Z alone for a couple of weeks though ;-)
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Post by: gdog on June 26, 2005, 08:04:44 pm
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Don't waste your breath (skin?), neither of us gets upset easily   
Z's already confirmed the platform won't allow it, so your best bet is to not auto-suspend it. Don't let your Z alone for a couple of weeks though ;-)
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I generally try to avoid being offensive, as some folks just seem to live to argue.  But my appreciation is no less sincere. Can't tell you how much I admire those who write such great apps for the fun of doing it apparently, and then give them to the public domain. You guys are great.

I'll just accept the fact that my Z is not going to wink at me about an appt. when it's turned off. Better that than letting the battery drain down. Luckily I'm pretty in tune with what I've got coming up, and my laptop is my primary tool for scheduling. And since it's on the whole time I'm in front of it, I don't have to worry about missing something important.

Thank you both. These two apps are still the best I've used on a handheld.

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: amdonati on June 27, 2005, 03:48:00 am
I have tried to import my Ka/Pi on a Z6000L contacts back to Outlook 2003, but for some reasons All of them failed.
I tried the Ka/Pi-DTM-OL approach, but while I could sync correctly between Ka/(Py and the Sharp contacts, when I tried to sync with OL, this always failed in the middle of the process, saying something about a wrong or missinig API, and I tried on different PCs and fresh intsalls of OL.

So I tried with the CSV export, but for some reasons neither Outlook nor OL express accept the CSV file created by KaPi.
While I do not know if there is a solution to the DTM sync issue, though I start to think tha there must be something wron in my vcard file, is there maybe the hope that the CSV export filter issue could be solved?

Thank you very much,
regards,
Adalberto

PS: Any news on the KDE/Pim to OL sync? I see that there is a not active voice ion the Windows version, but no other news on it.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: danr on June 27, 2005, 05:47:46 am
Hi Zautrix,

I'd like to import Outlook appointments to use them in KOPI on pdaXrom.  I've imported the appointments into KOPI on a Windows machine, which is fine, but if I restart KOPI and repeat the import, it creates double entries (even though if I don't close KOPI and do it, it doesn't import any appointments).  Is this a bug with KOPI, or is this functionality intentional?

I doubt I'll be able to perform the DTM sync option because I'm running pdaXrom, not a Sharp-based ROM.

Keep up the good work - a great bunch of apps!

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 28, 2005, 05:23:48 pm
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I have tried to import my Ka/Pi on a Z6000L contacts back to Outlook 2003, but for some reasons All of them failed.
I tried the Ka/Pi-DTM-OL approach, but while I could sync correctly between Ka/(Py and the Sharp contacts, when I tried to sync with OL, this always failed in the middle of the process, saying something about a wrong or missinig API, and I tried on different PCs and fresh intsalls of OL.
That's a Sharp sync problem. I generally find the sync setup to be very, very unreliable (it flat out refused to work for me).

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So I tried with the CSV export, but for some reasons neither Outlook nor OL express accept the CSV file created by KaPi.
While I do not know if there is a solution to the DTM sync issue, though I start to think tha there must be something wron in my vcard file, is there maybe the hope that the CSV export filter issue could be solved?
Have you tried a vCard export instead?

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PS: Any news on the KDE/Pim to OL sync? I see that there is a not active voice ion the Windows version, but no other news on it.
You'll have to get in touch with the KDEPim crew for that. I doubt it's a high priority item for them (can't say I agree, but again, I'm not contributing to KDEPim).
In KDEPim/Pi, I honestly don't know. I do think it's an important issue, both for people with PocketPC's who use OL as a conduit for Activesync, and the other way around for people who want to sync a Linux machine (desktop or PDA) to their Outlook info because OL gets info KDEPim/Pi  doesn't (groupware server, whatever).
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 28, 2005, 05:27:36 pm
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I'd like to import Outlook appointments to use them in KOPI on pdaXrom.  I've imported the appointments into KOPI on a Windows machine, which is fine, but if I restart KOPI and repeat the import, it creates double entries (even though if I don't close KOPI and do it, it doesn't import any appointments).  Is this a bug with KOPI, or is this functionality intentional?
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That's intentional. Import is a one-way process, and it doesn't check for identical event already in your dataset. Can Outlook export to vCalendar? Then you could do a filesystem sync (dump the calendar on the PDA, sync to that, copy the updated calendar to your desktop, nuke (after BACKING UP) your outlook data, and import the sync'ed calendar)into OL. I don't know OL too well, but this could probably be scriptable.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on June 28, 2005, 08:27:02 pm
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I generally try to avoid being offensive, as some folks just seem to live to argue.  But my appreciation is no less sincere. Can't tell you how much I admire those who write such great apps for the fun of doing it apparently, and then give them to the public domain. You guys are great.
We might start collecting money to get a Fogbugz license, which is so much better than Bugzilla it's kind a sad for the lizard in question.
We'll see whether Lutz likes it, and whether we want to take our user's money for it, but you might get to make a financial contribution yet (whether you want to is another issue entirely   )
Also, GPL'ed software is not exactly public domain. BSD-licensed software would be more akin to it, althought there are still differences.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: amdonati on June 29, 2005, 05:44:04 am
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Have you tried a vCard export instead?

From what I understand, the vcard export would create 1 vcf file with all my contacts.
And Outlook cannot read it unless I buy an external addon, which I would avoid if possible, given that it is a One time process.

Otherwise I have to manually create more than 200 single Vcards.
Maybe it is the only solution, but is not very "confortable"

Adalberto
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 29, 2005, 09:18:28 am
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I have tried to import my Ka/Pi on a Z6000L contacts back to Outlook 2003, but for some reasons All of them failed.
I tried the Ka/Pi-DTM-OL approach, but while I could sync correctly between Ka/(Py and the Sharp contacts, when I tried to sync with OL, this always failed in the middle of the process, saying something about a wrong or missinig API, and I tried on different PCs and fresh intsalls of OL.

So I tried with the CSV export, but for some reasons neither Outlook nor OL express accept the CSV file created by KaPi.
While I do not know if there is a solution to the DTM sync issue, though I start to think tha there must be something wron in my vcard file, is there maybe the hope that the CSV export filter issue could be solved?

Thank you very much,
regards,
Adalberto

PS: Any news on the KDE/Pim to OL sync? I see that there is a not active voice ion the Windows version, but no other news on it.
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Can you try to find out what in the csv card file is wrong such that outlook does not import it?

The Outlook sync will take some time because I have to do some preparations in KO/Pi ad KA/Pi before I can implement this.

One of them is the multi calendar feature in KO/Pi.
That is almost working - now I have to add the multi calendar feature to the sync settings and the sync program code.
After that I have to change the telephone number editing in KA/Pi.
That implies some smart code for changing telephone number types and will take some time.

And then I will think about the best solution how to sync with Outlook.

As you can see, there are a lot of problems to be solved...
I guess it may be working end of September.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 29, 2005, 09:21:08 am
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Hi Zautrix,

I'd like to import Outlook appointments to use them in KOPI on pdaXrom.  I've imported the appointments into KOPI on a Windows machine, which is fine, but if I restart KOPI and repeat the import, it creates double entries (even though if I don't close KOPI and do it, it doesn't import any appointments).  Is this a bug with KOPI, or is this functionality intentional?

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I have to admit that I do not understand you.
You wrote
"it creates double entries"
and
"it doesn't import any appointments".

What are you doing in what way?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: danr on June 29, 2005, 10:45:51 am
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I have to admit that I do not understand you.
You wrote
"it creates double entries"
and
"it doesn't import any appointments".

What are you doing in what way?

z.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding.  What I am trying to do is to create a one-way sync (i.e. import), from Outlook into KOPI.

If I use KOPI on Windows I can import calendar appointments from Outlook, no problem.  If I repeat the import then no more appointments are imported (which is ideal).  However, if I close KOPI and restart it and try to import the appointments, they are all imported again, so I get two copies of each appointment.  If I close and reopen KOPI again and repeat this, I get three copies of each appointment, etc.

I wondered whether this is expected behaviour, i.e. it should only be done once ever, or if it should be intelligent enough to stop creating duplicate entries.

The method of exporting the Outlook calendar to vcard files is complicated because you have to select each appointment and save them individually to vcard files.

Dan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on June 29, 2005, 01:09:26 pm
Will there ever be a search function for KA? It would be most useful. Please forgive if there is and I just haven't found it.

Regards,

Tref
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on June 29, 2005, 02:51:16 pm
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Will there ever be a search function for KA? It would be most useful. Please forgive if there is and I just haven't found it.

Regards,

Tref
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Ok, I forgive you!

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: amdonati on June 30, 2005, 03:48:46 am
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Can you try to find out what in the csv card file is wrong such that outlook does not import it?

Yes i could check, but I do not have much experience in the Vcard parsing, any suggestion on what could I be looking for?

And thanks for the work on the OL sync!

Adalberto
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Glenbo on June 30, 2005, 12:40:41 pm
Great software.  I'm trying it out for the first time and wonder if there is a filter or something else that will let me display a list of todos that are of a single priority.  That is, can I somehow have it ONLY show me tasks with a priority of '1'?  I can't seem to do it with a filter.

Also, the recurring todos are nice, but it seems that when you complete a task all it does it change the due date on it.  I then need uncheck the complete box.  I would think that completing a recurring task would generate a NEW copy of the task with the new date.

Thanks again for all the good work!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: rogerbowering on June 30, 2005, 06:43:09 pm
I love KO/Pi and I keep upgrading......but, I guess this is a wish list thing.

I would REALLY love a week view like the Psion Agenda used to do, i.e. like an open one week filofax page. It doesn't have the time slots in measured grids, but it makes for very clear reading. I believe Qualendar has a similar view (so I guess I should use Qualendar, eh?)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 01, 2005, 12:00:26 am
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I love KO/Pi and I keep upgrading......but, I guess this is a wish list thing.

I would REALLY love a week view like the Psion Agenda used to do, i.e. like an open one week filofax page. It doesn't have the time slots in measured grids, but it makes for very clear reading. I believe Qualendar has a similar view (so I guess I should use Qualendar, eh?)
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Do you mean something like this?

[a href=\"http://www.pi-sync.net/html/week_list.html]http://www.pi-sync.net/html/week_list.html[/url]

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 01, 2005, 12:10:04 am
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Can you try to find out what in the csv card file is wrong such that outlook does not import it?

Yes i could check, but I do not have much experience in the Vcard parsing, any suggestion on what could I be looking for?

And thanks for the work on the OL sync!

Adalberto
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I meant KA/Pi csv export problems.

Juts create one simple contact and try to import it to Outlook. Does that work?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 01, 2005, 12:14:26 am
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Great software.  I'm trying it out for the first time and wonder if there is a filter or something else that will let me display a list of todos that are of a single priority.  That is, can I somehow have it ONLY show me tasks with a priority of '1'?  I can't seem to do it with a filter.

Also, the recurring todos are nice, but it seems that when you complete a task all it does it change the due date on it.  I then need uncheck the complete box.  I would think that completing a recurring task would generate a NEW copy of the task with the new date.

Thanks again for all the good work!
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No there is no filter for "show only todos with prio 1"

You do not have to set the completed recurring task to "uncomplete". That will be done automatically when the current time is after the start time of the todo.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: amdonati on July 01, 2005, 03:05:49 am
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Juts create one simple contact and try to import it to Outlook. Does that work?
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I created some sample CSV files with 1 address in each and all failed with a "Translation Error" message.

I tried to attach a sample CSV file I exported from Ka/Pi that I could not import in OL 2003 but apparently it was not working

Here are the lines in the file:

Code: [Select]
Formatted Name,"Family Name","Given Name","Additional Names","Honorific Prefixes","Honorific Suffixes","Nick Name","Birthday","Category","Home Address Street","Home Address Locality","Home Address Region","Home Address Postal Code","Home Address Country","Home Address Label","Business Address Street","Business Address Locality","Business Address Region","Business Address Postal Code","Business Address Country","Business Address Label","Home Phone","Business Phone","Mobile Phone","Mobile (home)","Mobile (work)","Home Fax","Business Fax","Car Phone","ISDN","Pager","Email Address","Mail Client","Title","Role","Organization","Note","URL","Resource","SIP","Department","Profession","Assistant's Name","Manager's Name","Spouse's Name","Office","IM Address","Anniversary","Gender","Children","FreeBusyUrl","ExternalID"
Code: [Select]
Juleps,"","Juleps","","","","","","Ristoranti","","","","","","","Via Torricelli 21","Milano","MI","20136","Italy","","","+39 (02) 89409029","","","","","","","","","","","","","","Brunch alla domenica\nChiuso il lunedì\n","www.julepsmilano.com","resource-name","","","","","","","","","","","","",":"
Maybe this helps.

Regards,
Adalberto
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tone on July 03, 2005, 01:05:16 pm
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i have imported my address db - a not so huge 500kb vcf file. i am using KA/Pi for an addressbook.
i have found KA/pi to be cripplingly slow - not only to load, but also to search. A few mins loading, and maybe 15 seconds for a name search.
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Half a meg of contacts is quite a bit. Jesus.
Loading the app takes a couple of seconds once it has fastloaded (granted, that takes hours, but nobody cares)
Searching takes milliseconds on my Z (search as you type is quite usable). You should disable search as you type and see of that improves it.
While I worked with Z on usability we enable SAYT by default, and it searches all info by default, which is very nice if you want to search fast, but's quite resource-intensive.
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Thanks for the feedback. Guess i've been busy a while.

I disabled SAYT, but searches are still taking a long time: eg, "dave", all fields, no SAYT, takes 10 seconds.

Also, I know you say that loading takes a long time only once, for fastloading. However, KA/Pi currently occupies ~45k of my memory - more than 3/4 of it on the 3100. So I find I have to shut it  down to use other Apps.

I love Ko/Pi, but I'm really at a loss as to what to do for contact management. What do others with relatively large address db's do - split them into frequently and infrequently used address books?

Thanks, Tone
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: steliosx on July 03, 2005, 06:24:20 pm
Awesome job once again zautrix!!  THANKs a lot again for the new release!

just a shot in the dark but, any chance we see KMyMoney again integrated in this excellent suite of PIM Apps?

thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on July 03, 2005, 08:09:43 pm
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Will there ever be a search function for KA? It would be most useful. Please forgive if there is and I just haven't found it.

Regards,

Tref
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Ok, I forgive you!

z.
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So does that mean there is, but I haven't found it?    

By search I don't mean typing in a name and having it narrow that down to a list. What I mean is to externally search all entries in the address book for strings in notes, names, phone numbers, etc.

Thanks,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 05, 2005, 11:30:14 am
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By search I don't mean typing in a name and having it narrow that down to a list. What I mean is to externally search all entries in the address book for strings in notes, names, phone numbers, etc.
If you select "all fields" in the search drop-down you end up with this behaviour.
Either that, or I'm very confused about what you're trying to achieve. I *think* there's an implied wildcard in the KAPI search field but I'm not sure.
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Ok, I forgive you!
You mean jerk  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on July 05, 2005, 11:37:32 am
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By search I don't mean typing in a name and having it narrow that down to a list. What I mean is to externally search all entries in the address book for strings in notes, names, phone numbers, etc.
If you select "all fields" in the search drop-down you end up with this behaviour.
Either that, or I'm very confused about what you're trying to achieve. I *think* there's an implied wildcard in the KAPI search field but I'm not sure.
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Actually what I'm trying to achieve is the ability to search my Contacts in the Fields of Notes, Addresses, Titles, etc as opposed to simply names. For instance if I create an entry for Dr. Foobar and make a note to the effect that he is my pediatrist, it would be very handy to search for pediatrist if I cant remember his name. This is perhaps an oversimplification because I only have a few doctors and they are all in one category. But I do work with dozens of system administrators, each of whom may be responsible for just one particular application on our servers.

Does that explain my goal better?

Thanks!!!

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 05, 2005, 11:49:25 am
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I disabled SAYT, but searches are still taking a long time: eg, "dave", all fields, no SAYT, takes 10 seconds.
How many contacts do you have?

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Also, I know you say that loading takes a long time only once, for fastloading. However, KA/Pi currently occupies ~45k of my memory - more than 3/4 of it on the 3100. So I find I have to shut it  down to use other Apps.
You mean 45 megs (MB) right? Again I'm curious as to how many contacts you have.
If memory use scales too much compared to AB size, there might be something we can do there.

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I love Ko/Pi, but I'm really at a loss as to what to do for contact management. What do others with relatively large address db's do - split them into frequently and infrequently used address books?
Have you used other solutions with better performance before? If they're OSS Zautrix could always take a look, but I seriously doubt there are better alternatives on the Zaurus. But if you (or anyone else) know better, don't hesitate to bash me over the head.
If the performance is better on other platforms (Palm, Windows Mobile), I'd love to know as well, and again that counts for everyone.
As to the splitting: you might get away with using 2 resources, and only load the complete book when you need obscure contacts. The drawback is that you have to actively manage who gets to go into which book, total PITA.
I don't want to get your hopes up about future performance, though. You can only crawl variable length fulltext so fast.

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Thanks, Tone
We accept payment in Euro's, conflict diamonds, and stray cats.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 05, 2005, 11:55:53 am
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Actually what I'm trying to achieve is the ability to search my Contacts in the Fields of Notes, Addresses, Titles, etc as opposed to simply names. For instance if I create an entry for Dr. Foobar and make a note to the effect that he is my pediatrist, it would be very handy to search for pediatrist if I cant remember his name. This is perhaps an oversimplification because I only have a few doctors and they are all in one category. But I do work with dozens of system administrators, each of whom may be responsible for just one particular application on our servers.

Does that explain my goal better?
Yes but I don't see how this is not possible with an all-fields search. Select "All Fields" in the drop down, and it should work. If it doesn't, don't hesitate to post again and I'll try to see what's going on, but I just tested it by searching for strings only found in Notes, and it works fine here. Let us know.
Edit: One thing I just thought about: are you looking for several strings at the same time (in a single search, like Support and Oracle for someone in the Support department who's responsible for the Oracle setup)? That might be borked, and I'm going ot test it now.
More edit: what version are you running? We fixed a bug a while ago where "All Fields" was lying, and searching only in the displayed fields (whoever came up with that deserves to be taken behind the barn and shot, but that's another story).
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 05, 2005, 12:49:32 pm
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Sorry for the misunderstanding.  What I am trying to do is to create a one-way sync (i.e. import), from Outlook into KOPI.

If I use KOPI on Windows I can import calendar appointments from Outlook, no problem.  If I repeat the import then no more appointments are imported (which is ideal).  However, if I close KOPI and restart it and try to import the appointments, they are all imported again, so I get two copies of each appointment.  If I close and reopen KOPI again and repeat this, I get three copies of each appointment, etc.

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The expected behaviour for an import is to just dump the new events in the calendar, no matter what's in there already. It should create the dubplicates before you restart Kopi, I don't know why it doesn't.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 05, 2005, 12:57:08 pm
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Sorry for the misunderstanding.  What I am trying to do is to create a one-way sync (i.e. import), from Outlook into KOPI.

If I use KOPI on Windows I can import calendar appointments from Outlook, no problem.  If I repeat the import then no more appointments are imported (which is ideal).  However, if I close KOPI and restart it and try to import the appointments, they are all imported again, so I get two copies of each appointment.  If I close and reopen KOPI again and repeat this, I get three copies of each appointment, etc.

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The expected behaviour for an import is to just dump the new events in the calendar, no matter what's in there already. It should create the dubplicates before you restart Kopi, I don't know why it doesn't.
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No, it does check for duplicates.
That check works for newly imported items , but it does not work for saved and reloaded items.  I have fixed something in the import handling. Maybe it will work in the latest version.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 05, 2005, 01:03:43 pm
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That check works for newly imported items , but it does not work for saved and reloaded items.  I have fixed something in the import handling. Maybe it will work in the latest version.
Aha, that's a bit counter-intuitive, isn't it? Is there any way you can make that persistent?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: lareya on July 05, 2005, 01:14:06 pm
I am looking for a way to have multiple calendars in KOPI. Is that possible?
For instance:
calendar for my son
calendar for work
calendar for personal

Or is this handled in a different way?

TIA

lareya
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 05, 2005, 01:16:19 pm
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That check works for newly imported items , but it does not work for saved and reloaded items.  I have fixed something in the import handling. Maybe it will work in the latest version.
Aha, that's a bit counter-intuitive, isn't it? Is there any way you can make that persistent?
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Well, it is a bug, of course. But I do not know the reason the reloaded data is different.
I would need to get one dataset to see what may be the problem.

As usual, it is working for me ...
z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 05, 2005, 01:18:45 pm
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I am looking for a way to have multiple calendars in KOPI. Is that possible?
For instance:
calendar for my son
calendar for work
calendar for personal

Or is this handled in a different way?

TIA

lareya
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Menu View->Toggle resource view.

Or simply key "r".

Only supported by the latest version.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: lareya on July 05, 2005, 02:23:33 pm
Thank you zautrix! for fast reply to my question

Lareya
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: steliosx on July 05, 2005, 04:45:30 pm
may be a bit off-topic, but anybody can shed some light on KMyMoney? is there any work going on for this interesting project?

thanks again
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on July 05, 2005, 07:27:50 pm
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Yes but I don't see how this is not possible with an all-fields search. Select "All Fields" in the drop down, and it should work. If it doesn't, don't hesitate to post again and I'll try to see what's going on, but I just tested it by searching for strings only found in Notes, and it works fine here. Let us know.
Edit: One thing I just thought about: are you looking for several strings at the same time (in a single search, like Support and Oracle for someone in the Support department who's responsible for the Oracle setup)? That might be borked, and I'm going ot test it now.
More edit: what version are you running? We fixed a bug a while ago where "All Fields" was lying, and searching only in the displayed fields (whoever came up with that deserves to be taken behind the barn and shot, but that's another story).
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ev1l,
You're a genius. Here's what I found. If I select 'All Fields', and I start typing in the search field, against a non-filtered list (All contacts), the app does indeed search the Notes regardless of whether or not that Field is part of my current View. The only drawback is that it only searches the Notes Field starting from the first character in the Notes field.

So for instance if I have 3 contacts who have the following in their Notes field

Watch repairman
Watch maker
Watch dealer

If I enter repairman in the search field, none of these will show up. But if I start my search string with watch, then all three will show up. Not the "best" way, but certainly something I can work around and with!!! Thanks for the idea, and it just goes to show that I need to spend more time experimenting. This is still a great app imho! Thank you!

Now where would you like me to send those stray cats?  

btw, I'm running 2.0.14 on the Sharp ROM.

Best Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: danr on July 06, 2005, 07:00:22 am
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That check works for newly imported items , but it does not work for saved and reloaded items.  I have fixed something in the import handling. Maybe it will work in the latest version.
Aha, that's a bit counter-intuitive, isn't it? Is there any way you can make that persistent?
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Well, it is a bug, of course. But I do not know the reason the reloaded data is different.
I would need to get one dataset to see what may be the problem.

As usual, it is working for me ...
z.
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I've tried version 2.1.12 and it works better, but still doesn't quite work.  Of my 68 calendar entries, 13 are imported again after closing and restarting the program.  I'm looking at these entries, but I haven't noticed anything which suggests why these ones are duplicated.

I've also tried creating a new .ics file with one of the duplicated entries in it and imported it via the file import, but it doesn't duplicate that one, so it's probably something to do with the Outlook sync code.

Will keep you posted if I notice anything...

Dan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 07, 2005, 05:21:43 pm
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The only drawback is that it only searches the Notes Field starting from the first character in the Notes field.

So for instance if I have 3 contacts who have the following in their Notes field

Watch repairman
Watch maker
Watch dealer

If I enter repairman in the search field, none of these will show up. But if I start my search string with watch, then all three will show up.
That's an actual bug, and I'll put it in our DB. Thanks for the testing.
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Post by: gdog on July 07, 2005, 06:33:10 pm
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The only drawback is that it only searches the Notes Field starting from the first character in the Notes field.

So for instance if I have 3 contacts who have the following in their Notes field

Watch repairman
Watch maker
Watch dealer

If I enter repairman in the search field, none of these will show up. But if I start my search string with watch, then all three will show up.
That's an actual bug, and I'll put it in our DB. Thanks for the testing.
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That's the least I can do, and like I said I can work around it. Thank YOU!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 07, 2005, 06:47:29 pm
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The only drawback is that it only searches the Notes Field starting from the first character in the Notes field.

So for instance if I have 3 contacts who have the following in their Notes field

Watch repairman
Watch maker
Watch dealer

If I enter repairman in the search field, none of these will show up. But if I start my search string with watch, then all three will show up.
That's an actual bug, and I'll put it in our DB. Thanks for the testing.
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That's the least I can do, and like I said I can work around it. Thank YOU!
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Well, that is no bug.
Please use a wildcard "*" in front of the search to search in words and not at the beginning.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 07, 2005, 07:49:41 pm
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Please use a wildcard "*" in front of the search to search in words and not at the beginning.
Ah yeah, true enough. Then I motion for an option to have that inserted by default around search terms. Bit less confusing for users.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on July 07, 2005, 11:09:24 pm
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Well, that is no bug.
Please use a wildcard "*" in front of the search to search in words and not at the beginning.

That DID it! Thank you very much. The more I use these, the more I learn, and the more I like them.

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on July 08, 2005, 01:34:59 pm
I guess the biggest thing keeping me from more actively using the the pim/pi apps is that i don't even use my Z much anymore because it has become so unstable since i started using the /pi apps.  I have upgraded to new versions three or four times, reflashed the cacko ROM twice, and this time forewent the installation of Kino, which seemed to be wreaking havoc on its own.

In spite of it all, my Z is still crashed and rebooted often (but not always) when i open it up after the alarm applet has triggered (as it does every morning).  It's frustrating.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on July 08, 2005, 06:27:02 pm
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I guess the biggest thing keeping me from more actively using the the pim/pi apps is that i don't even use my Z much anymore because it has become so unstable since i started using the /pi apps.  I have upgraded to new versions three or four times, reflashed the cacko ROM twice, and this time forewent the installation of Kino, which seemed to be wreaking havoc on its own.

In spite of it all, my Z is still crashed and rebooted often (but not always) when i open it up after the alarm applet has triggered (as it does every morning).  It's frustrating.
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Flandry,

What makes you think it's the PIM apps?  FWIW I'm using the stock Sharp ROM on my C1K with v2.0.14 of the KDE apps and it's rock solid.

Your problems could potentially be attributed to about anything you have installed, as well as the ROM build itself, or any combination therein.

I know this because I installed an app which shall remain nameless, that appeared to kill my Z. A restore cleared it up. The only other problem I've had involved me attempting to tweak the tmpfs filesystem. Now I'm back to stock and all is well. But throughout each of my problems I've not seen anything that even remotely led me to believe that the KDE PIM apps were contributing to my Z's troubles...

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 08, 2005, 10:42:13 pm
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I guess the biggest thing keeping me from more actively using the the pim/pi apps is that i don't even use my Z much anymore because it has become so unstable since i started using the /pi apps.
I have the same setup as yours (cacko and kopi and alarm applet), and I've never run into any trouble. If you don't offer any more details, there's no way we can help you.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on July 08, 2005, 10:50:50 pm
Been there, done that.  I couldn't prove it's the alarm applet, nor will i waste any more time attempting to do so.  I'm just reporting (as i have before) that there are some serious problems with crashing that only occur after i install the /pi suite.  If i had any more details than i've shared in the past, i'd share them.

It's unfortunate.  I like the Z, and i like the functionality of the suite.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 09, 2005, 12:11:11 pm
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Been there, done that.  I couldn't prove it's the alarm applet, nor will i waste any more time attempting to do so.
Sucks. Really sorry to hear that.
Are you sure it's not a hardware trouble? (I've had issues when I made my partition just the recommended size, now I always add a couple of megs for flash degradation, and it seems to have helped a lot. Since the kdepimpi suite is quite big, it could be a problem).
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: fiferboy on July 11, 2005, 09:45:01 am
Since multi-calendar support was added (2.1.12?) I have not been able to select which calendar to add a new appointment to when creating the appointment.  I am using a Zaurus 5000d in potrait mode, and it looks like the field is supposed to be beside "Location" but it is off the side of the screen.  This is the same in the latest version (2.1.16).

I have been creating all appointments in the default calendar and then moving them to the appropriate one afterwards.

BTW, I really like the multi-calendar support.  I have the default calendar setup so I can keep overwriting it with my Outlook appointments, and any appointments I don't want to add to Outlook I keep in a separate calendar file.  I am also impress with how well this runs on my 5000d with no Home on SD setup.  Keep up the great work!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 11, 2005, 06:07:54 pm
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Since multi-calendar support was added (2.1.12?) I have not been able to select which calendar to add a new appointment to when creating the appointment.  I am using a Zaurus 5000d in potrait mode, and it looks like the field is supposed to be beside "Location" but it is off the side of the screen.  This is the same in the latest version (2.1.16).
The location is the *physical* location of the event (party tent!)
You can select the "default" calendar using the resources manager, and all new events will be created there.
It's not super-intuitive, but it limits the amount of modification Z had to make, and it doesn't hurt the workflow of people who don't use multiple agenda's.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: eji on July 12, 2005, 05:25:15 am
Though I'm incredibly glad to see it (at last!), I'm having a lot of trouble with the multi-calendar support. After associating the resources with several calendars exported from iCal, my next launch of KO/Pi told me that the loading of the calendars failed. They loaded and displayed just fine when I first configured them.

Any idea why this should be so?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on July 12, 2005, 11:48:08 am
The "what's new" notes of v2.1.16 states that a problem with the menu bar in KO/PI and using the "Menu" hardware key have been fixed. Actually, pressing the menu-key calls the "Filter" drop down, instead of the menu.
As far as i got, this seems to be the only drawback in KO/PI whereas in PWM/PI the menu-key still does not work     . Well, i can live with that. (Until next version  

Greetz j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 13, 2005, 08:14:35 am
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Any idea why this should be so?
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No. If you're running the testing branch on purpose, (meaning you are willing to test and I can abuse that fact), try cold-starting kopi from the command line and see what it complains about.
I need to ask Z to compile a debug version that will spit everything it can back to println, so we can determine exactly what goes wrong in cases like that. Multiple calendar support is still very much experimental, and when you add that to the finnicky parser, it tends to create troubles.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 13, 2005, 08:16:44 am
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The "what's new" notes of v2.1.16 states that a problem with the menu bar in KO/PI and using the "Menu" hardware key have been fixed. Actually, pressing the menu-key calls the "Filter" drop down, instead of the menu.
Testing this now. Menu key works fine when the filter menu isn't in the toolbar, so it's probably a focus problem.
edit: confirmed. workaround is to use the filter button instead of the menu. I'll put the bug in the DB.
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Post by: eji on July 13, 2005, 08:36:58 am
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Any idea why this should be so?
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No. If you're running the testing branch on purpose, (meaning you are willing to test and I can abuse that fact), try cold-starting kopi from the command line and see what it complains about.
I need to ask Z to compile a debug version that will spit everything it can back to println, so we can determine exactly what goes wrong in cases like that. Multiple calendar support is still very much experimental, and when you add that to the finnicky parser, it tends to create troubles.
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Immediately after launch it says: "Could not open translation file home/QtPalmtop/1l8n/libqsl.qmid" (or something like that). Then it spits out the multiple "Error adding calendar file [with directory info]" errors for all my calendars.

Not much, but I hope that gives you something to go on.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 13, 2005, 05:10:11 pm
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Immediately after launch it says: "Could not open translation file home/QtPalmtop/1l8n/libqsl.qmid" (or something like that). Then it spits out the multiple "Error adding calendar file [with directory info]" errors for all my calendars.
Could you copy-paste the whole thing?
Can you import the calendars normally?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on July 13, 2005, 07:11:50 pm
- Dang.  New releases are coming in a flurry!  I installed 2.1.13 and it's already old!  (grin)
- I had the same problem that someone else had ... when I fastload KO/KA it completely soaks up all memory after a restart, such that the Z complains and wants to shut something down with that little dialog.  Got that twice, shut down both KA & KO, still took up all my memory until I un-fastloaded them.  This after the initial install, when it restarted after installing the alarm applet.
- I re-fastloaded them after a few days 'cause I was tired of waiting for them to launch.  No problems what-so-ever.  Haven't rebooted since then to know if it's a boot issue or not.  Looks like I'll upgrade, first.  (heh heh)

- Custom sounds work now.  That's cool.
- Time zones don't.  (little boy pout)
- Haven't used much else yet.

- Other than this little memory glitch the entire suite has been rock-stable since I first stumbled across it.  That's why I keep using it ... I could care less what it does or doesn't do if it's going to crash.  KDEPIM doesn't, at least not with the Sharp ROM, in my admitedly limited experience.  Kudos!...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: eji on July 14, 2005, 01:52:26 am
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Immediately after launch it says: "Could not open translation file home/QtPalmtop/1l8n/libqsl.qmid" (or something like that). Then it spits out the multiple "Error adding calendar file [with directory info]" errors for all my calendars.
Could you copy-paste the whole thing?
Can you import the calendars normally?
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The calendars import just fine.

The text is cut-and-pasted below and there's a screenshot too.

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Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/en/libsl.qmid
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/1250-Jahr-Feier.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Apple.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Band_Music PR.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Family.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Feiertage.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Friends.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Groups.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/None.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Personal.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Recreation.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Travel.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/UK Holidays.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/US Holidays.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Work.ics
KO: Error adding calendar file /usr/mnt.rom/card/Documents/kdepim/apps/korganizer/Writing.ics

KO: Calendar loading time: 5431 ms
KO: Last termination on Thu Jul 14 07:41:59 2005
KO: Checking alarm until Thu Jul 14 07:42:03 2005
KO: Downsizing Pixmaps
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on July 14, 2005, 03:31:08 am
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edit: confirmed. workaround is to use the filter button instead of the menu. I'll put the bug in the DB.

workaround works fine for me. Thanks so far.

j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 14, 2005, 08:48:16 am
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workaround works fine for me. Thanks so far.
Alright. Sorry about that silly bug.

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The calendars import just fine.
The text is cut-and-pasted below and there's a screenshot too.
Thanks. I haven't talked ot Z in a few days, but if the calendars can be imported they should be usable once the bug is fixed. We might need sample data (it can be a sensitive issue for privacy reasons), but I'm just not sure yet.

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In spite of it all, my Z is still crashed and rebooted often (but not always) when i open it up after the alarm applet has triggered (as it does every morning).  It's frustrating.
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In other news, I've ran into the alarm-applet bug, so I'll work on reproducing it and hopefully fixing it.
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Post by: ev1l on July 14, 2005, 09:03:53 am
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- I had the same problem that someone else had ... when I fastload KO/KA it completely soaks up all memory after a restart, such that the Z complains and wants to shut something down with that little dialog.  Got that twice, shut down both KA & KO, still took up all my memory until I un-fastloaded them.  This after the initial install, when it restarted after installing the alarm applet.
- I re-fastloaded them after a few days 'cause I was tired of waiting for them to launch.  No problems what-so-ever.  Haven't rebooted since then to know if it's a boot issue or not.  Looks like I'll upgrade, first.  (heh heh)
Let me know if this is still outstanding on the latest devel version.

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- Time zones don't.  (little boy pout)
Exactly how do they not work? I've been talking to Z about the timezone framework, and it's quite hard to "get" properly. It's on the backburner for now, but if there are show-stopping bugs, let me know.

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- Other than this little memory glitch
Um, if it's still outstanding, I wouldn't call it a "little memory glitch"
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: fiferboy on July 14, 2005, 11:43:56 am
I have an idea for an improvement to the "What's Next" view that I don't THINK is a huge deal to implement but make a big difference for functionality.

Instead of having the meeting time all on one line (where it takes up more than half the screen real estate on my 5000d) have it print on two line, seperated after the dash ( - ) to take up about a third of the screen.  This would make it so more than two appointments would fit on the screen, and it would be much more useful.

I have attached two screenshots to show the old way (scrn003.bmp) versus my proposed way (scrn004.bmp)
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Post by: ev1l on July 15, 2005, 08:06:36 am
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I have an idea for an improvement to the "What's Next" view that I don't THINK is a huge deal to implement but make a big difference for functionality.
That looks like a plan. In the mean time, use 24H-base times, it doesn't take quite as much room. I think the way the text wraps could really be improved as well.
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Post by: danr on July 15, 2005, 08:19:13 am
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That check works for newly imported items , but it does not work for saved and reloaded items.  I have fixed something in the import handling. Maybe it will work in the latest version.
Aha, that's a bit counter-intuitive, isn't it? Is there any way you can make that persistent?
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Well, it is a bug, of course. But I do not know the reason the reloaded data is different.
I would need to get one dataset to see what may be the problem.

As usual, it is working for me ...
z.
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I've tried version 2.1.12 and it works better, but still doesn't quite work.  Of my 68 calendar entries, 13 are imported again after closing and restarting the program.  I'm looking at these entries, but I haven't noticed anything which suggests why these ones are duplicated.

I've also tried creating a new .ics file with one of the duplicated entries in it and imported it via the file import, but it doesn't duplicate that one, so it's probably something to do with the Outlook sync code.

Will keep you posted if I notice anything...

Dan
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I think I've found out why some entries are duplicated while others are not, on importing from Outlook.  The duplicated entries all contain one or more spaces at the end of the subject or note section.  I think KOPi is stripping the spaces on saving the file, then when the file is opened the entries appear to be different to the imported data, giving rise to the duplication.

Cheers,

Dan
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Post by: gdog on July 15, 2005, 10:39:44 am
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I think I've found out why some entries are duplicated while others are not, on importing from Outlook.  The duplicated entries all contain one or more spaces at the end of the subject or note section.  I think KOPi is stripping the spaces on saving the file, then when the file is opened the entries appear to be different to the imported data, giving rise to the duplication.

Cheers,

Dan
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FWIW, and admittedly this could just be user error on my part, every device I've ever had on which I tried to sync with outlook, beyond the initial "import" of data, has resulted in duplicate entries. And I've had everything from a Palm to PPC to HPC to Linux. I don't even try anymore. Big loss of functionality, and also a duplication of effort when having to store my appt's in both places manually, but I don't even store contacts in Outlook anymore. That's partially because I don't trust outlook to keep the info from the prying eyes of the bad guys, but also because I don't want to take the time to enter it in both places manually, so I just keep contacts in my handheld.  Generally, and this is just my opinion, M$ apps do not play well with other apps in the schoolyard....  

Regards,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: clofland on July 19, 2005, 04:33:49 pm
I put in a bug for this on SourceForge, but I thought I'd throw it here too.

Import from Outlook Failure - Recurrence
If you create an appointment in Outlook and set up
recurrence, and set it up to recur Daily, and check the
button for "Every weekday" and save that task, then
KO/Pi for Windows will crash when you attempt to
import the data. Actually it seems to import, but when
you close the box, then it crashes.

Interestingly, if you set it as a "weekly" appointment and check MTWTF, which accomplishes the same affect, it works fine.

Most of my appointments are put on my calendar by other people, so I don't always have the option of what they will do, though I can change them to work for now.

I am using 2.1.16, but I went back and tried the import with some other versions and got the same results. I use this feature to import my OL calendar for use on my Z daily. I don't sync, I just wipe out what is on the Z and import from OL.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 19, 2005, 04:37:47 pm
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I put in a bug for this on SourceForge, but I thought I'd throw it here too.
Thanks, I positively hate the sourceforge bugtracker.

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Actually it seems to import, but when
you close the box, then it crashes.
The box?
I've found a crash bug after sync, so the crash might be in the save code.
Zautrix just commented on a couple of SF bug entries, but he hasn't responded to my emails yet
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on July 21, 2005, 10:22:25 pm
- Snagged 2.1.16 just now.  More after I get it onto the Z .. this box is the file server and doesn't have a Z link set up.  Surfin' from the file server ... Bad Rags!...
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Post by: ev1l on July 22, 2005, 08:14:42 am
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- Snagged 2.1.16 just now.  More after I get it onto the Z .. this box is the file server and doesn't have a Z link set up.  Surfin' from the file server
Set your wifi up properly. I bought the wifi card just so that I wouldn't have to mess around with the cable anymore.
Be warned, there seems to be a couple of crash bugs in 16, and Kapi has formatting problems in portrait.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on July 22, 2005, 09:41:11 pm
- There is no joy in Mudville.  Same issue with fastload on reboot with 2.1.16, but this time, I only have to kill KA/PI when the dialog appears.  Unfastload it, then refastload it, and alles ist gut until next reboot.
- Haven't done any other pokin' 'round.  Just installed it about half an hour ago.  I'm poking around with the WiFi and when I rebooted it's definitely not happy.
- As for WiFi, well, that's not inside my firewall, so I can't get to it from the file server.  I don't trust my piddly little WEP, so the WiFi is essentially in a DMZ.  Anyone one it, myself included, can only get out, not in.  The LAN, of course, is wired.  Until WiFi secuity matures it's going to stay that way.
- One of these daze, in my "copious spare time", I'll set up a encrypted tunnel.  It's on the list.  (wry grin)  'Til then it's cable for me.  (shrug)  I don't mind.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on July 23, 2005, 04:02:46 pm
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In other news, I've ran into the alarm-applet bug, so I'll work on reproducing it and hopefully fixing it.
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It happened again the other day after more than a week without the problem.  I had the Z plugged in, but on at the time.  The rest of the week it was off, but plugged in, when the alarm triggered -- i think.
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Post by: zautrix on July 27, 2005, 05:27:17 am
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  Same issue with fastload on reboot with 2.1.16, but this time, I only have to kill KA/PI when the dialog appears.

It works for me on my 760.
Did you disable fastload for all other apps?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 27, 2005, 05:35:13 am
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I put in a bug for this on SourceForge, but I thought I'd throw it here too.

Import from Outlook Failure - Recurrence
If you create an appointment in Outlook and set up
recurrence, and set it up to recur Daily, and check the
button for "Every weekday" and save that task, then
KO/Pi for Windows will crash when you attempt to
import the data. Actually it seems to import, but when
you close the box, then it crashes.
Thanks for reporting this. It is fixed in the next version 2.1.17
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Interestingly, if you set it as a "weekly" appointment and check MTWTF, which accomplishes the same affect, it works fine.
Yes, this was working.
For that case Outlook returns a "1" for the frequency ( every week ) which is correct.
For "Every weekday"  Outlook returns a "0" for the frequency. That cause a division by zero  later, which causes the crash. I consider that as an Outlook bug. I fixed it by setting the frequency to "1" if Outlook return a "0".

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Most of my appointments are put on my calendar by other people, so I don't always have the option of what they will do, though I can change them to work for now.

I am using 2.1.16, but I went back and tried the import with some other versions and got the same results. I use this feature to import my OL calendar for use on my Z daily. I don't sync, I just wipe out what is on the Z and import from OL.
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Great that you found this problem.
Pleae report any other problems, if you find more.

Thanks,

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 27, 2005, 05:38:33 am
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I think I've found out why some entries are duplicated while others are not, on importing from Outlook.  The duplicated entries all contain one or more spaces at the end of the subject or note section.  I think KOPi is stripping the spaces on saving the file, then when the file is opened the entries appear to be different to the imported data, giving rise to the duplication.

Cheers,

Dan
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Great that you found the reason.
It is fixed in 2.1.17.
I remove now the white spaces directly after import from summary, location and details.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 27, 2005, 05:40:33 am
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I have an idea for an improvement to the "What's Next" view that I don't THINK is a huge deal to implement but make a big difference for functionality.

Instead of having the meeting time all on one line (where it takes up more than half the screen real estate on my 5000d) have it print on two line, seperated after the dash ( - ) to take up about a third of the screen.  This would make it so more than two appointments would fit on the screen, and it would be much more useful.

I have attached two screenshots to show the old way (scrn003.bmp) versus my proposed way (scrn004.bmp)
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Good idea!

I added a config option to next version 2.1.17 to make it possible to separate it after the dash.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 27, 2005, 06:08:03 am
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The calendars import just fine.

The text is cut-and-pasted below and there's a screenshot too.


Strange.

Can you send to me one of the calendar files such that I can try to find the problem?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: loc4me on July 28, 2005, 11:38:55 pm
I just recently downloaded version 2.1.17. I have reported a couple bugs on sourceforge  but i thought i might report them here too. The first on is kinda weird. when i go to change the default colors by going to configure KO/pi and then selecting the colors tab, the cross hair that allows you to select the color you want just follows the mouse pointer around and does not let me set a point. When i click it does not do anything. Even when i go outside of the box it still moves the cross hairs.

Second has to to with the week view. I sort of figured this out already but i will report/ask again. When in month view and i click on the week number to go into week view, the days start at Monday and go down to tuesday. Instead of going across like they used too. I Found an option in the month view tab that selets the week view as Row layout. this fixes the order of the days but i still like it in column layout. I just want column layout with the days going across instead of down. Is there an option to change this or is it a bug??? Thanks

Also, When adding new resource for the calendar it defaults each calendar to name "newcal.ics" no matter what the name is for the calendar. It would be nice if when you add a new calendar it would name the calendar file the same as the name that was input for the resource name.

Mark

I added attachment of the week view i was talking about.

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Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: loc4me on July 29, 2005, 12:25:35 am
I also had a quick question on what dependencies kopiemail needs. I have tried to intall it but it says that it needs other files. does anyone know what they are???

thanks

Mark
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 29, 2005, 04:57:52 am
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I just recently downloaded version 2.1.17.

Sorry, but I do not understand your problem completely.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: loc4me on July 30, 2005, 12:22:12 am
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Sorry, but I do not understand your problem completely.

z.


My problems is that when i go to week view the days go from Monday to Sat/Sun progressing downward instead of across. I found the option that allows you to set the week view in colomn mode but that makes it have 3 days across and two down. I much rather have it the old way which was to have two days across and three going down.
for example on the first row it now has monday and thursday then second row tuesday and friday. It should be... Monday and Tuesday on the first row, Tuesday and Wednesday on the second row, etc.

If you switch it to row layout then the day to progress across correctly but then there is three to a row. Maybe in next version could you make it possible to have days go across but be in 3 rows.

Thanks

Mark
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 30, 2005, 04:21:37 am
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Sorry, but I do not understand your problem completely.

z.
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My problems is that when i go to week view the days go from Monday to Sat/Sun progressing downward instead of across. I found the option that allows you to set the week view in colomn mode but that makes it have 3 days across and two down. I much rather have it the old way which was to have two days across and three going down.
for example on the first row it now has monday and thursday then second row tuesday and friday. It should be... Monday and Tuesday on the first row, Tuesday and Wednesday on the second row, etc.

If you switch it to row layout then the day to progress across correctly but then there is three to a row. Maybe in next version could you make it possible to have days go across but be in 3 rows.


Ok, thanks. Next question:
What are you talking about?
Z 6000? Portrait mode? Landscape mode?
Windows Version?

I think when you choose "row layout" you have exactly the same behaviour as it was.
If the width > height you get 3 columns, if not you get 2 columns.

If you do not choose "row layout" you get always 2 columns, but only on windows.
Do you want 2 columns always on windows, even with width > height?

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: eji on July 30, 2005, 04:29:41 am
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The calendars import just fine.

The text is cut-and-pasted below and there's a screenshot too.


Strange.

Can you send to me one of the calendar files such that I can try to find the problem?

z.
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Is your e-mail address the lutz@pi-sync... on the site? I have no problem sending you those iCal files, because the only juicy private info you'll have is family birthdays.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on July 30, 2005, 06:05:53 am
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The calendars import just fine.

The text is cut-and-pasted below and there's a screenshot too.


Strange.

Can you send to me one of the calendar files such that I can try to find the problem?

z.
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Is your e-mail address the lutz@pi-sync... on the site? I have no problem sending you those iCal files, because the only juicy private info you'll have is family birthdays.
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Yes, it is.
I guess I need only one file which cannot be loaded.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on July 30, 2005, 06:17:04 am
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If you do not choose "row layout" you get always 2 columns, but only on windows.
Do you want 2 columns always on windows, even with width > height?
Basically he wants the grid to have a column layout (2 broad, 3 high), but the day names to have a row layout.
A lot of people have complained about the week list view, so it might be a good idea to make columns the default layout.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: enrm6 on August 03, 2005, 04:26:55 am
I'm always impressed by the speed of development of this App.  Is it possible to suggest some feature requests?

For Ko/Pi:  When setting exclusions for recurring events would it be possible to select a date range?  Adding single dates is a pain for month long (or longer) breaks.

Also I like the week number in the toolbar.  However as an academic (at University) we have our own week numbering system.  So week one is when the students turn up in October this goes on until week 11 just before Christmas.  The students have a break and then week 12-15 runs before we start with week 1 again!!  Anyway - would it be possible to add another week numbering toolbar entry that is customisable - not just for starting week but for each week number?  Thus, I could set week 31 in the calendar to show week 1, week 32 to show week 2 etc.  For out of semester weeks I would like to show 0 or similar.  This is somthing I would always add to a paper calander so being able to do it on an electronic version would be fantastic.

Thanks for the excellent work!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: jesizmi on August 09, 2005, 06:54:09 am
I've just installed v2.19 and want to report not actually a bug.
Now there's a tiny inconvinience with Ko/Pi.
The focus, once set to an editable textfield, such as the new todo field in quick-todo, will not leave, unless you close the quick-todo. This misbehaviour prevents keyboard shortcuts from functioning. The same is true for the journal-view.
The main problem seems to be, that the focus is set to new todo during start up.
Since i prefer the keybd shortcuts over screen tapping, this is a bit of an annoyance.

Thanks for all the fish

Greetz j.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: nathanwms on August 09, 2005, 06:15:27 pm
*** PROBLEM REMOVING OLD VERSION !!!!  ***

I'm attempting to upgrade to version 2.1.5 from 2.0.0, but I'm having problems removing the old version.  I am able to remove all modules except korganizer.2.0.0.  When I attempt to remove this one, IPKG gives me the following error: " IPKG says something went wrong. Sorry"  I've rebooted a retried with no luck.  When I go to the command line and type in "ipkg remove korganizer" I get this message"
     ipkg_remove: Removing korganizer...
     rm: unable to stat '///opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokcal.so.2.0': Input/output error

I can't install the upgraded korganizer until this one is removed, at least that's what ipkg is telling me.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: nathanwms on August 12, 2005, 01:52:12 pm
BUMP to get this back on the radar scope!

Anyone able to tell me how to delete the old 'korganizer' without using ipkg?  ipkg won't let me install over the top of the old one, asks for it to be removed first.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: scheck.r on August 13, 2005, 04:19:41 pm
Congrats Zautrix and everyone contributing for the KDE-PIM suite.

A new stable version. YEAAAAAAAAH
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: shreks on August 17, 2005, 05:56:14 pm
I installed the latest stable version 2.2.0. It is very good! Fantastic work, zautrix!

I have a question regarding selecting an image file for the photo of the contact in kaddressbook:
If I added an image with the size of 64x64 pixels, the same size as those icon files in kaddressbook, e.g. ic_*.png, the image was shown in a portrait rectangle in detail view window, such that the image looks like being squeezed horizontally. If an image of the wide-to-height ratio of 3:4, the image will be shown correctly without improper scaling. So I am wondering if kaddressbook assumes that the  wide-to-height ratio of a given image be 3:4? It is interesting to see that if those 64x64 icon files, ic_*.png, are selected mannually as photo, they will be scaled improperly, while they can be shown correctly by kaddressbook according to other fields, e.g. male, female, spouse, children's names. Therefore my question is how to make kaddress display logo image correctly? I suggest kaddressbook provide a dialog box to let user properly scale, crop and rotate the input image file.

Another question: what the difference between Photo and Logo in the Images tab when edit a contact? After I specify an image file for Logo instead of Photo, where can I see the picture?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on August 26, 2005, 07:35:13 pm
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BUMP to get this back on the radar scope!

Anyone able to tell me how to delete the old 'korganizer' without using ipkg?  ipkg won't let me install over the top of the old one, asks for it to be removed first.
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No need to bump, it's stickied to the top.

Is that file that it complains about there?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Snappy on August 26, 2005, 09:07:04 pm
Ko/pi suite works great on my z5500 with hentges rom oz3.5.3!!  ... except for one thing ... it refuses to wake up for alarms.  What is wrong? apm and apmd ipkgs are installed by default.

Ideas? Thanks!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: xjqian on August 28, 2005, 11:41:12 pm
2.2.2

KO/Pi
*Changed due date of ToDo in Outlook-Sharp ToDo. However, KO/Pi sync with Sharp DTM does not reflect the change.

KA/Pi
*Birthday and Anniversary does not sync with Sharp DTM
*Some of the formatted name do not show up in the main window, although formatted name are correct in the detailed view. These only happens for the new contacts I added on after my initial sync and setting the formatted name.
** feature request: would like to see the a-z quick navigation tabs as in the Sharp Address book, which can be quickly browsed through via the  left-right button

Thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on August 29, 2005, 06:00:45 pm
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*Some of the formatted name do not show up in the main window, although formatted name are correct in the detailed view. These only happens for the new contacts I added on after my initial sync and setting the formatted name.
** feature request: would like to see the a-z quick navigation tabs as in the Sharp Address book, which can be quickly browsed through via the  left-right button
Formatted names should be set automatically from now on I think. Look at the complete  changelog and report back if it's not in there.
There is a way to quick-switch in kapi. I'm drunk and tired now, but I'll post tomorow if you haven't found it in the mean time.
As an aside, if you're going to put your comments on SF.net, do take the time to separate your issues into different entries so we can react accordingly to each of them
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: etrigan on August 31, 2005, 03:27:30 pm
all:
i just received a c3100 from conics.  i am using the original sharp rom and successfully navigated the x/qt installation (not too difficult), as well as firefox 0.9-2 (as suggested http://www.users.on.net/%7Ehluc/myZaurus/ (http://www.users.on.net/%7Ehluc/myZaurus/) ).  openssl also installed easily.

i would like to use the kde-pim per http://www.pi-sync.net/ (http://www.pi-sync.net/) ; but, i the installer on the 3100 will not install the ipk files; regardless of order.  i do not get any error msgs having information  -- other than that i get a small msg box reporting that there were errors...

does anyone know where the error logs are??

alternatively, what newbie error am i making here?? are there other programs that need to be installed prior to the kde-pim files??

thanks in advance
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on September 01, 2005, 05:07:24 am
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does anyone know where the error logs are??
There are none when using the GUI, I think.
Use the command line tool, as so:
ipkg -force-depends install /path/to/installationfiles/*ipk

And post the output if it bugs out
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on September 17, 2005, 11:02:05 am
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In other news, I've ran into the alarm-applet bug, so I'll work on reproducing it and hopefully fixing it.
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It happened again the other day after more than a week without the problem.  I had the Z plugged in, but on at the time.  The rest of the week it was off, but plugged in, when the alarm triggered -- i think.
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Any progress made on isolating and fixing this bug?  I've just upgraded from 2.1.10-ish to the most recent build, and will try out the alarm applet again to see if i still get the same problems.  KO/Pi does seem a lot faster than before.  Or is that just in my head?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Flandry on September 17, 2005, 01:22:14 pm
Nope, no doubt about it: this thing just flies now.  Kudos on the optimizations.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on September 19, 2005, 08:08:52 am
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Nope, no doubt about it: this thing just flies now.  Kudos on the optimizations.
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There's been quite a lot of work from Z before 2.2.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: SharpEnd on September 20, 2005, 09:59:07 pm
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There's been quite a lot of work from Z before 2.2.
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Is the latest version 2.2.3?
Which version do I d/l for my 860 running Cacko ROM,
the Sharp Rom version or the Platform Independent ver.?

Thanks!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on September 23, 2005, 08:06:02 pm
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Is the latest version 2.2.3?
Which version do I d/l for my 860 running Cacko ROM,
- yes
- Sharp. Cacko is a modded Sharp ROM.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: RGRICH on September 25, 2005, 02:27:32 pm
I'm trying to sync KO/PI on a C3000 with KO/PI on installed on a Windows XP desktop. I'm using Ko/PI 2.2.0 but have been unable to get them to sync successfully. If I download the .ics file to the C3000 then I can load that calendar with no problems. I'm currently running Cacko 1.2.3 Beta on the C3000.
Here's what happens:

Select synchronize Desktop on the C3000. A window pops up on the desktop indicating a sync is in progress.
On the C3000 a window pops up first saying connecting to remote, then saying downloading sync file (with a progress bar)
After the file is downloaded a window is displayed to select sync preferences. Once I select "Newest entry" everything comes to an abrupt halt and in the KO/PI banner on the C3000 is a message "Syncing Failed"

I first thought this was due to space so I reinstalled with the /kdepim directories on /hdd3/zaurushome. I also increase the size of /tmp to 4m from 1m but still the same response. I do notice that a tempsynccal.ics file appears in /tmp but something is prevent successful sync. I've been unable to find any log or messages that would indicate the reason.

Anyone with a similar problem or a possible solution? From what I read it appears that many just copy the .ics file from one platform to the next. Is this because there are issues with getting these different systems to sync?

Thanks,
rgrich
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Borealid on September 25, 2005, 03:06:03 pm
Since there seem to be a number of interested people, I've created an ipk of the latest kdepimpi.  This is for PdaXrom only - it's built for RC11 but I'm if/how it'll work on earlier versions.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: scheck.r on September 25, 2005, 05:11:10 pm
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Since there seem to be a number of interested people, I've created an ipk of the latest kdepimpi. This is for PdaXrom only - it's built for RC11 but I'm if/how it'll work on earlier versions.

Many, many thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 26, 2005, 01:40:05 am
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Since there seem to be a number of interested people, I've created an ipk of the latest kdepimpi.  This is for PdaXrom only - it's built for RC11 but I'm if/how it'll work on earlier versions.
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i installed this on  6000L running pdaXrom rc 11 with xfce. there certainly seems to be an improvement in getting kapi up but when i try to import contacts it tells me that "no resources are available" and i cant add any resources from 'settings-configure resources' menu.

when starting it from command line i get messages that the following libraries are not found:

libmicrokabc_qtopia.so
libmicrokabc_sharpdtm.so
libmicrokabc_file.so
libmicrokabc_dir.so

where do i get these from?

thanks a lot.

cheers

/bazmi.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 26, 2005, 03:57:59 am
forgot to add that all these libraries are in /usr/lib.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Borealid on September 26, 2005, 05:46:52 pm
Oh, sorry, I seem to have forgotten to move the libraries from /usr/lib to /opt/kdepimpi.  All you have to do is move them in there:

# mv /usr/lib/libmicrokabc_* /opt/kdepimpi/

That should fix it.  Kapi appears to expect its libraries in a strange place.  You could also:

# ln -s /usr/lib/libmicrokabc_* /opt/kdepimpi/

.. which is probably better.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 26, 2005, 10:01:40 pm
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Oh, sorry, I seem to have forgotten to move the libraries from /usr/lib to /opt/kdepimpi.  All you have to do is move them in there:

# mv /usr/lib/libmicrokabc_* /opt/kdepimpi/

That should fix it.  Kapi appears to expect its libraries in a strange place.  You could also:

# ln -s /usr/lib/libmicrokabc_* /opt/kdepimpi/

.. which is probably better.
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did this a quick try. linked all the files in /opt/kdepimpi but no luck. will try and re-install it later in the day and let you know if it works.


cheers

/bazmi.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Borealid on September 27, 2005, 07:03:01 am
My mistake again, there are three libraries that don't contain an underscore, so the command should be:

# ln -s /usr/lib/libmicrokabc* /opt/kdepimpi/

I'll make a new ipkg with these links in place in a few days.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: albertr on September 27, 2005, 09:36:45 am
Did you run ldconfig after installing it?
-albertr
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 27, 2005, 12:06:18 pm
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My mistake again, there are three libraries that don't contain an underscore, so the command should be:

# ln -s /usr/lib/libmicrokabc* /opt/kdepimpi/

I'll make a new ipkg with these links in place in a few days.
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hello borealid,

thanks. had figured this out and it is now working fine. cheers.

/bazmi
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 27, 2005, 12:07:37 pm
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Did you run ldconfig after installing it?
-albertr
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no, didnt need to. seems to be working fine.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: albertr on September 27, 2005, 07:53:23 pm
So it works for you?

I don't see libmicrokabc_sharpdtm.so lib included in the ipk...
-albertr
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bazmi on September 27, 2005, 09:39:39 pm
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So it works for you?

I don't see libmicrokabc_sharpdtm.so lib included in the ipk...
-albertr
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you are right - neither the qtopia nor the sharpdtm libraries are included (and i dont know why) but since i dont keep my data in any of these formats, it doesnt bother me.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: magicbb on September 27, 2005, 09:52:16 pm
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My mistake again, there are three libraries that don't contain an underscore, so the command should be:

# ln -s /usr/lib/libmicrokabc* /opt/kdepimpi/

I'll make a new ipkg with these links in place in a few days.
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hi, i follow your command and it never complains missing library any more
but after the following line is shown, nothing happens

ResourceFile::openfile /home/root/kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf
Resource loaded: 'resource-name'

Do I need to do something to bring up the kapi window?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: magicbb on September 27, 2005, 10:06:44 pm
it's weird, when i run it in xfce, it's ok
when in pdaxrom, it seems that the kapi window just don't show up
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Borealid on September 28, 2005, 06:53:01 am
Try pressing alt-tab.  I have no idea why it does that on some machines...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: dominate on September 28, 2005, 11:06:46 am
you guys rock! worked like a charm... by the way, i also have the kapi no window issue that required an alt-tab (c1000).

ken
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on September 28, 2005, 08:45:32 pm
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it's weird, when i run it in xfce, it's ok
when in pdaxrom, it seems that the kapi window just don't show up
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Yes, that is odd.
sash already informed me about that problem.
I will try to find out what is wrong when I have some time...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: kgw on September 30, 2005, 02:36:42 am
Has anyone got this working with the Henteges version of OZ?  The packages seem to install but don't run properly here on my 5500.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: boardboyd on October 05, 2005, 03:01:43 pm
I had it working when I was with Hentges ROM, 5500, had no problems but I don't remember the ROM number or anything else regarding on how it performed.

I'm using Cacko 1.22 right now and whenever I rotate the kdemicro libs aren't loaded, ldconfig doesn't do anything and I was wondering how I would manually load them so I could try that out.  Whenever I rotate my screen kopi/kapi/ompi won't load complaining that libkdemicro couldn't be found, I have to reboot to get the libs loaded again.

Thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: dakhan on October 15, 2005, 02:44:53 pm
Hi!

I'm using KDE-PIM-PI on my Windows/Ubuntu Linux desktop and notebook mainly because it's great cross-system sync possibilities.

Recently my Linux distribution (Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger) went into KDE 3.4.3 and replaced kdelibs4 with kdelibs4c2, while libqt3c102 and libqt3c102-mt are unavailable (there is libqt3-mt). These changes ruined kde-pim-pi dependencies and I have to stick to older Ubuntu version in order to use it.  

Maybe some of you has some ideas whether and when kde-pim-pi dependencies will allow for new libraries? Or maybe there is a method (without great deal of code-tampering) to modify it myself?  

Thank you for your time!

Andrzej Tomaszewski
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on October 17, 2005, 08:06:28 pm
Quote
Maybe some of you has some ideas whether and when kde-pim-pi dependencies will allow for new libraries? Or maybe there is a method (without great deal of code-tampering) to modify it myself? 
Have you tried forcing the deps or are you building it locally?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: dakhan on October 18, 2005, 04:29:24 am
Quote
Have you tried forcing the deps or are you building it locally?
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Errr....
In fact I'm rather newbie with Linux, so I just used prebuild SUSE package from sourceforge and alien it to .deb format.
I'm afraid I don't know how to "force the deps"...

--
Andrzej
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: dakhan on October 20, 2005, 12:26:15 pm
Hi All,

My problem is solved.
The dependencies were corrected in KDE-Pim-PI 2.2.4.

Sorry for impatience,
--
Andrzej
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on October 21, 2005, 05:35:16 am
Quote
Sorry for impatience,
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=100210\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Nah man, it's not your fault the deps were busted. Rather have you send in a report than 2 newbies quitting on it because it doesn't work, and not saying anything. We can only fix the stuff we know about.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on October 29, 2005, 04:02:33 am
I have changed to telephone number editing and management in KA/Pi.
That is need for the Outlook sync, which will be available soon.

Please test that new feature and give some feed back!

In particular:
Is in the SharpDTM sync the mapping of the phone numbers still working?
Please test!
 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=112604 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604)

Release notes of version 2.2.6 - testing:

********** VERSION 2.2.6 ************

KO/Pi:
Made navigation in datepicker more userfriendly when using keyboard for scrolling.
KO/Pi Alarm applet:
Made font size for the two popup menus with larger font configurable:
Change size with menu:
Play Beeps->Font Size
Save settings such that it will be restored after next reboot with menu:
Play Beeps->Config->Save.
KA/Pi:
Big change! Needed for the upcoming Outlook sync:
(Outlook sync available appr. end of 2005)
Telephone number types are now fixed in KA/Pi
(but still compatible with the vCard standard, of cource)
and they are compatible with the types used by the evil empire.
That makes syncing with OL possible and make it possible to sync better with mobile devices.
NOTE:
All your telephone types will be converted automatically at loading/importing!
Such that it may be a good idea to make a backup of the data before starting KA/Pi.
But the editing of phone numbers and types has changed completely such that it is now much faster to edit/change types and numbers.
HINT:
To see whether there was some number for some contact not converted senseful, choose
Menu: View->Modify view
and add "Other Phone" ( in German "Sonst. Telefon") to the view.
If a type was not converted senseful to some of the 18 new, fixed types, it will get the "Other" type.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: boardboyd on November 01, 2005, 01:42:13 pm
Haven't tested new version, but have been running 2.2.4 on my 5500 using Cacko 1.22 ROM and rotate found on the Cacko feed.
My problem is whenever I rotate into landscape the kdelibs don't load and I can't run kopi/kapi/ompi/pwmpi.  Is there a way to manually load the libs so that it will work?

Oh error from terminal to load kopi is:
kopi: error while loading shared libaries: libmicrokdepim.so.2: cannot load shared object file:no such file or directory

Thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: clofland on November 04, 2005, 11:49:16 am
I have switched to pdaXrom, and I have noticed that we don't get regulary releases for pdaXrom.

Or am I just not looking in the right place?

Would it be possible to do that? Or should one of us take on the task and compile each new version for pdaXrom?

I wouldn't mind doing it, but I don't really know where to start. I do have a Linux box that I can use to cross-compile, but unless the code just compiles without ANY help, I'll be lost.  I've compiled some command line utils for the Z, but all of the GUI programs I tried to compile gave me too much grief for me to get anywhere.

If you think it is easy, let me know, and I'll pull down the source and give it a stab. I just don't want to waste the time if someone else is or has been doing it, or if it would be trivial for someone else to do it.

Thanks. I love this program!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: rebski on November 04, 2005, 01:57:47 pm
I have just installed v2.2.7 on to my C1000/Cacko 1.23ROM.

KorganizerAlarm seems to obliterate the Cacko applets – volume, battery, memory, etc.

It would be nice if they could coexist.

As it is I have to make a choice as which I prefer.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on November 05, 2005, 12:06:43 am
- rebski: did you reboot?  Does the same to me each time I install KO/API, which I've done a lot during ROM testing.  (wink)  That should bring them all back.
- Additionally, if you use the "applet manager" built-in to Cacko, it will crash Qtopia, but that will restart itself.  Not a terrible tragedy, but disconcerting the first few times it happens, until one just stops using the applet.  (snicker)
- Hope this helps...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: rebski on November 05, 2005, 05:54:25 pm
I have installed again and this time restarted qtopia immediately after.

Did the trick, both applets coexist. Also I am now forwarned about possible crashes.

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on November 06, 2005, 08:28:01 am
Quote
I have switched to pdaXrom, and I have noticed that we don't get regulary releases for pdaXrom.
Or am I just not looking in the right place?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=102283\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Windows and PDAX versions are not released because Z test on Linux and I do on Cacko, which takes standard Sharp rom binaries.
If I want a particular version for Windows I usually just ask with positive results. Z is in the US right now, so you might get answers as quickly as usual.
But yes, I'd be a good thing to see all version compiled for all targets as a rule.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Papadon on November 06, 2005, 09:54:15 am
Hello,

I have a quick question....

This has been baffling me for the past couple of weeks now and I've searched everywhere I think, but cannot find the answer!

I have a Sharp Zaurus CL-3100 and I have installed EVERY version of KO/PI on it to test with.

The problem I have is the following:

With, or without the alarm applet installed...if I create an appointment/to do with an alarm set and then go to check the entry, it's flagged with the alarm correctly. EX. "30 Minutes Before". However, if I exit the program (with saving first), and go back into KO/PI, and check the entry the alarm says "!30(Disabled) Minutes Before". The alarms will not work at this point. I've tested everything! If I create the apts. in KO/PI on the Zaurus without exiting, it's OK. But if I sync from my Windows machine, which I usually do because of convenience, it comes across with the "(disabled)" stuff. This is happening in EVERY VERSION, with/without the alarm applet installed. Has anyone seen this and does anyone know the solution?

Thanks,

Mike
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: clofland on November 07, 2005, 09:03:32 am
Quote
Quote
I have switched to pdaXrom, and I have noticed that we don't get regulary releases for pdaXrom.
Or am I just not looking in the right place?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=102283\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Windows and PDAX versions are not released because Z test on Linux and I do on Cacko, which takes standard Sharp rom binaries.
If I want a particular version for Windows I usually just ask with positive results. Z is in the US right now, so you might get answers as quickly as usual.
But yes, I'd be a good thing to see all version compiled for all targets as a rule.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=102537\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Even just a pdaXrom release at each "stable" version would be enough I think.

Thanks.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: chal on November 09, 2005, 01:30:11 pm
Will KOPI work on Hybrid? If so, what deps are needed?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on November 19, 2005, 05:49:39 am
Quote
Will KOPI work on Hybrid? If so, what deps are needed?
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I don't know, and no deps. kopiemail needs Openssl, but that's it.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: maystorm on November 21, 2005, 10:14:57 am
Sorry in advance for my newbie question...

I bought my CL3000 from Trisoft and it got Version 2.0.14 pre-installed. What would be the correct procedure for updating to the latest version? Would I just need to install the new *.ipk via the package manager ("Add/Remove software") and it'll replace all the old files with the the ones? Do I need to make a backup of my data files first?

Anything else I must observe? Additional dependicies?

Sorry, but I'm relatively new to the Zaurus world and how software is installed (and especially updated!) here...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on November 21, 2005, 10:45:43 am
maystorm,

Generally speaking you should always back up before you install new software, on virtually any system.

I just installed the 2.2.5 version of KO/Pi and KA/Pi yesterday (upgrading from 2.0.14 just like you).  Those are the only major components I use, but first you must uninstall the old versions, including the libs and the alarm applet, and then install the new versions, starting with the libs followed by the organizer and address book and the alram applet. Your actual data is saved to a different location, so when you start the new versions your data will already be there for you.

Oh, fwiw I did this on my C1000.

Good luck!

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bluedevils on November 21, 2005, 10:58:58 am
yes backing up is always good.

download the latest zip file of kde pim pi.  When you unzip, you will see all the needed packages.  This will also tell you which packages need to be uninstalled first.

When you install kopi alarm, it might screw up the task bar a bit (missing applets).  Just restart qtopia and it should all come back proper.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: maystorm on November 21, 2005, 11:14:19 am
@bluedevils
@gdog

Thanx for the quick replies! So, uninstall then re-install is the right order for upgrading a package? Would this be a general guideline for Zaurus software?

I'll try the latest version soon - and yes, I won't forget to do a backup of my data files first as this should be done on a regular basis anyway...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on November 21, 2005, 12:31:29 pm
Quote
So, uninstall then re-install is the right order for upgrading a package? Would this be a general guideline for Zaurus software?[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=104428\")
Yes, it is.

BTW, I wrote a script a while back to simplify the update process.  You can find it attached to [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12034&st=70#]this post[/url].  It will automatically handle uninstalling and reinstalling only the kdepim apps that you had installed.  Use at your own risk but let me know if you have any problems.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: maystorm on November 22, 2005, 01:06:07 pm
@raybert

Thanx!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on November 22, 2005, 11:40:24 pm
I upgraded to 2.2.5 because I thought I had read somewhere that it fixed the annoying problem of the details view not staying set. But I've found that this is still a problem for me. Is it just me? Is there a way to keep the view split between names and details after I've suspended and then turned my C1K back on?

Thanks,

gdog

Eureka I think I've found it! If I turn on my C1K with the On/Off button the KDE Address app stays in Details view. But if I use the Address Hotkey to turn the unit on the view switches from Details to Names-only view after a second or two. I can live with that ;o)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: bam on November 23, 2005, 10:12:09 pm
small issue here, tried to use my own wav file for the alarm, and it refuses to play it? ANy ideas? using v2.2.5
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on November 24, 2005, 11:00:04 am
Quote
small issue here, tried to use my own wav file for the alarm, and it refuses to play it? ANy ideas? using v2.2.5
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From the KO/Pi FAQ:

Q:
I want to get another alarm sound than the default. What I have to change?
A:
The default alarm sound is a wav file:
It is  (QPEDIR)/pics/korganizer/koalarm.wav.
(Usually QPEDIR=/home/QtPalmtop).
(On the desktop, the path is:
(installdir)/kdepim/korganizer/koalarm.wav)
Just replace this file by another one und do a
'simulate alarm' to ckeck, if it works.
('Simulate alarm' not available on the desktop,
because it is in the alarm applet)
Wav files can have different sampling data.
(e.g. 16/8bit, stereo/mono, 22kHz/11kHz/...)
Note: It seems to be that there are problems with particular
combination of these settings.
If one file is not replayed properly,
just try another file/ another sampling data.


z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: chal on November 24, 2005, 03:58:59 pm
Quote
Quote
Will KOPI work on Hybrid? If so, what deps are needed?
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I don't know, and no deps. kopiemail needs Openssl, but that's it.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=104248\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks, I tried it and couldn't get it to work. Went back to tKc with Cacko kernel, where it works just fine.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on November 25, 2005, 02:46:01 pm
I inadvertently (aka stupidly), deleted my kabc directory from my CF card.

Then when trying to import both the xml and csv exports I had previously created as backups, the process would recreate my categories, but even with No Filters selected I could not actually see any of my 300+ contacts. So I found an old copy of the std.vcf file and put it into place in the kabc/apps/kabc directory. This gave me a starting point, but in further attempts to import the backups it seemed to bring in all but a few entries, most of which were in one category.

I believe that I've learned the std.vcf file is the "right" way to save a backup copy (so long as you're not intending to import the data into a different PIM). But does anyone have any idea why the xml and/or csv file would not import properly?

One further thing to note is that I had recently upgraded from 2.0.14 to 2.2.5, and the backups were created with the earlier version. Was there a change to the internal structure of the core app that would make the later version unable to read some of the data in the backup files that were created with an earlier version?

Strangely the import of the ics file for Organizer worked just fine...

Thanks in advance,

gdog
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on November 29, 2005, 05:15:09 pm
Quote
With, or without the alarm applet installed...if I create an appointment/to do with an alarm set and then go to check the entry, it's flagged with the alarm correctly. EX. "30 Minutes Before". However, if I exit the program (with saving first), and go back into KO/PI, and check the entry the alarm says "!30(Disabled) Minutes Before". The alarms will not work at this point. I've tested everything! If I create the apts. in KO/PI on the Zaurus without exiting, it's OK. But if I sync from my Windows machine, which I usually do because of convenience, it comes across with the "(disabled)" stuff. This is happening in EVERY VERSION, with/without the alarm applet installed. Has anyone seen this and does anyone know the solution?
The big problem is that we don't have a 3100 to test on. I honestly have no idea what could be the problem. What do you use on your wintel machine? Kdepim as well?

Quote
Sorry in advance for my newbie question...

I bought my CL3000 from Trisoft and it got Version 2.0.14 pre-installed. What would be the correct procedure for updating to the latest version? Would I just need to install the new *.ipk via the package manager ("Add/Remove software") and it'll replace all the old files with the the ones? Do I need to make a backup of my data files first?
Always make a backup (preferably to a card or over the network).
Always uninstall the previous version using your package manager.

Quote
Anything else I must observe? Additional dependicies?
Sorry, but I'm relatively new to the Zaurus world and how software is installed (and especially updated!) here...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=104418\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
No.
Don't be sorry, keep learning

Quote
I inadvertently (aka stupidly), deleted my kabc directory from my CF card.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=104982\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I'd run kdepim from the flash and backup automatically to your card (that's what the auto backup function is for). Configure it in the global options.

Quote
Then when trying to import both the xml and csv exports I had previously created as backups, the process would recreate my categories, but even with No Filters selected I could not actually see any of my 300+ contacts.
That sucks.

Quote
So I found an old copy of the std.vcf file and put it into place in the kabc/apps/kabc directory. This gave me a starting point, but in further attempts to import the backups it seemed to bring in all but a few entries, most of which were in one category.
That's weird. I've never used the xml/csv exports, so I don't know what's wrong.

Quote
I believe that I've learned the std.vcf file is the "right" way to save a backup copy (so long as you're not intending to import the data into a different PIM). But does anyone have any idea why the xml and/or csv file would not import properly?
The correct way is to export all as a vcard manually, or use the automatic backups.

Quote
One further thing to note is that I had recently upgraded from 2.0.14 to 2.2.5, and the backups were created with the earlier version. Was there a change to the internal structure of the core app that would make the later version unable to read some of the data in the backup files that were created with an earlier version?
gdog
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=104982\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
The change in data structure happened in 2.2.6, so no.
Also, stop signing your posts. I can read your name above your avatar

I'll be here all night
But seriously, if others have questions, just shoot.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: loc4me on November 29, 2005, 05:56:57 pm
Just wondered if any major changes were/are planned for the next release. It has been almost a month since the last release and they normally come faster than that? Or it could be that people are busy with there real jobs.    Thanks
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: gdog on November 29, 2005, 06:07:11 pm
Hmmm. I do have the pim apps running from flash, but I also have them configured to save to my CF card. And unless I'm mistaken, the automatic backups are saving the data to the std.vcf file. Where that file is should not be an issue, or so I would assume. But then, what I know about these Apps and what I assume may just be at opposite ends of reality.

If there's any comfort in all of this it's that so long as all the fields are included when exporting to an xml file, I could pluck them out with Perl at some later date, if in fact whatever new PIM Suite I mirgrate to would not accept them any other way. Although it would be hard to manually reenter the number of contacts I have, it would be even harder to do it from memory (mine that is, not the IC type).

Sorry, didn't know it was a breach of web etiquette to sign a post. Just shows my age I suppose. When I compose a Business letter, my name is at the top and the bottom...    

Thanks!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on November 29, 2005, 06:33:33 pm
Quote
Just wondered if any major changes were/are planned for the next release. It has been almost a month since the last release and they normally come faster than that? Or it could be that people are busy with there real jobs.    Thanks
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=105478\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes, I am currently very busy.

I am working on making it possible to sync in pi-sync mode specific resources.
It looks quite well in KO/Pi but it needs more testing.


And I tried to find a solution for Kx/Pi syncing with Outlook.
It seems so that there are all problems resolved with the KA/Pi Outlook syncing.
But it still needs to be implemented...


I will make some testing versions available next weekend (probably).

But do not expect a stable version before Christmas.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zautrix on November 29, 2005, 06:38:48 pm
Quote
Quote
With, or without the alarm applet installed...if I create an appointment/to do with an alarm set and then go to check the entry, it's flagged with the alarm correctly. EX. "30 Minutes Before". However, if I exit the program (with saving first), and go back into KO/PI, and check the entry the alarm says "!30(Disabled) Minutes Before". The alarms will not work at this point. I've tested everything! If I create the apts. in KO/PI on the Zaurus without exiting, it's OK. But if I sync from my Windows machine, which I usually do because of convenience, it comes across with the "(disabled)" stuff. This is happening in EVERY VERSION, with/without the alarm applet installed. Has anyone seen this and does anyone know the solution?

"!30(Disabled) Minutes" does mean that the alarm is disabled in the resource settings.

There may be a bug with that  "disable alarm" resource settings.

I will look at this.

z.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ev1l on December 01, 2005, 03:22:09 pm
Quote
Hmmm. I do have the pim apps running from flash, but I also have them configured to save to my CF card. And unless I'm mistaken, the automatic backups are saving the data to the std.vcf file. Where that file is should not be an issue, or so I would assume. But then, what I know about these Apps and what I assume may just be at opposite ends of reality.
The advantage of setting auto backups on your CF card is that you have 2 places to wipe before you start losing data.

Quote
Sorry, didn't know it was a breach of web etiquette to sign a post. Just shows my age I suppose. When I compose a Business letter, my name is at the top and the bottom...   
Ah, don't sweat it, it's just redundant here.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: wpchan on December 21, 2005, 09:43:13 pm
I have a question about sync and I am just too stupid to figure it out.  I sync from XP using a local file profile with my Z connected via USB in "Storage" mode.  The box for addressbook file used by Ka/pi is checked.  When I sync in Ko/pi, only mycalendar.ics is updated but not std.vcf, even if I have both calender and addressbook checked in the multiple sync options of the profile configuration.  I also tried Synchornize | Multiple sync and I got the same result.  The only way that I can update both file is to do the sync in Ka/pi and Ko/pi separately.

I was expecting that the sync will update both files when it is done in either ko/pi or ka/pi.  Did I get this wrong?  Thanks.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: ashikase on January 09, 2006, 01:39:52 am
I ran into a couple of problems when trying to compile the latest CVS (as of 2006-01-09) for desktop use. I am running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy), which uses gcc version 4.0.2 20050808.

They are both very simple issues, and I was able to easily correct them myself. I have included diffs of the changes below (made using 'diff -rup oldfile newfile').

First, a template error:
Code: [Select]
--- koeditordetails.cpp.orig    2005-07-30 02:41:39.000000000 +0900
+++ koeditordetails.cpp    2006-01-09 14:04:27.000000000 +0900
@@ -54,13 +54,13 @@
 #include "koeditordetails.h"
 
 template <>
-CustomListViewItem::~CustomListViewItem()
+CustomListViewItem::~CustomListViewItem()
 {
   delete mData;
 }
 
 template <>
-void CustomListViewItem::updateItem()
+void CustomListViewItem::updateItem()
 {
   setText(0,mData->name());
   setText(1,mData->email());
Second, Ubuntu's Qt lib doesn't include styles; I personally don't think it's necessary, anyways, as the program looks and runs fine without it.
Code: [Select]
--- main.cpp.orig    2005-09-25 11:28:24.000000000 +0900
+++ main.cpp    2006-01-09 14:08:22.000000000 +0900
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ int main( int argc, char **argv )
   a.setKeepRunning ();
 #else
   QApplication a( argc, argv );
-  QApplication::setStyle( new QPlatinumStyle ());
+  //QApplication::setStyle( new QPlatinumStyle ());
 #ifdef _WIN32_
   QString hdir ( getenv( "HOME") );
   if ( hdir.isEmpty() ) {
One other thing... I have found that gcc/g++ 4.0 is much more strict than earlier versions. While compiling kdepim, it spat out multiple warnings about base classes that have virtual methods but non-virtual destructors. While this might not currently be a problem, it could lead to memory leaks if any subclasses use dynamic allocation, and so it might be worth fixing.

- ashikase
- anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: rogerbowering on January 30, 2006, 05:24:27 am
I may have found a bug (was using 2.2.3, but moved up to 2.2.7 and still happens) or I may have a dodgy phone.

In KA/Pi, when I elect to Beam Selected contact to my phone there's no problem, ie the "Sending..." thing happens on the Zaurus and my phone asks, "Receive Contact Blah, Blah?"

In KO/Pi when I tap and hold an appointment and select beam, the Zaurus says it's sending the data (and completes) but there's no response at the phone.

Just to check, the phone receives any kind of beamed document/data from the Documents or Files tab without problem

Just in case it's a localised phone problem it's one of those HTC Jam Phones.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: clofland on February 03, 2006, 05:37:32 pm
Any chance of removing the restriction to no ore than 150 calendar entries when importing from Outlook?

If you get more than 150, ko crashes when it goes to save the file.

Thanks.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zhaven444 on February 05, 2006, 09:41:35 am
I installed Korganize 2.1.5 but cannot start it. I tried in terminal with the following error, any idea?

kopi: error while loading shared libraries: kopi: undefined symbol: __9KListViewP7QWidgetPCcb


how can i solve it?
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on February 05, 2006, 12:23:14 pm
You need to install kmicrokdelibs as well.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: xamindar on February 05, 2006, 03:23:10 pm
how do i change locality to say city and region to say state like it should in my country?  i'd like to be able just hand my zaurus over to someone and have them fill their info out without having to ask me which is which.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: zhaven444 on February 05, 2006, 08:23:11 pm
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You need to install kmicrokdelibs as well.

~ray
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Installed it already and lib are available, OPMail is okay....maybe I remove and install it again to have a try
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: raybert on February 06, 2006, 03:01:50 pm
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Quote
You need to install kmicrokdelibs as well.

~ray
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Installed it already and lib are available, OPMail is okay....maybe I remove and install it again to have a try
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Hmm... I don't what's going on then.  Which ROM are you running?

Re reinstall: If you didn't get any errors when you installed it that probably won't make any difference.  But it doesn't hurt to try.

~ray
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: cramit on February 23, 2006, 11:38:40 am
I am using KO/pi and I have found that my events become read-only after I exit and re-open KO/pi.  Is this normal?  I would like to be able to modify the details of an event after the fact; is there an easy way to do that?

Thanks!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Magellan on February 25, 2006, 05:57:33 pm
Hello everyone, I am new to Linux and have some potentially dumb questions.  I have a C750, and I just installed the latest Cracko ROM I could find.  Will this work on my device??  Also, does this replace the PIM included in Cracko's ROM, or does it install it in addition, so I have different PIM apps I need to choose?  Thanks for your help.

Mark
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Mac on March 04, 2006, 03:26:22 am
I think I found a bug;  when exporting my contacts to a container vcf file (1 vcf file containing multiple adresses) on my computer, and try to import them in KA/Pi it freezes the zaurus, I'm running 2.2.7...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Ragnorok on April 06, 2007, 04:27:30 pm
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Hello everyone, I am new to Linux and have some potentially dumb questions.  I have a C750, and I just installed the latest Cracko ROM I could find.  Will this work on my device??  Also, does this replace the PIM included in Cracko's ROM, or does it install it in addition, so I have different PIM apps I need to choose?  Thanks for your help.

Mark
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- I think it replaces, but you can "sync" with the Sharp DTM to pull your data over from there, and put it back again later, say if some application is expecting to find it there and not in "std.vcf" where kdepim puts it.
- I personally never sync anything, so never have to worry about where my data is.  Copy "std.vcf" an it's backed up.  Simple.  Easy.
- Hope this helps...
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: xamindar on April 14, 2007, 08:56:46 pm
Can anyone help me get pi-sync running with my linux desktop?  I enabled the option on the zaurus but I can't find the option in the linux kde pim apps.  Nor does multisync or any other sync app have a pi-sync option.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: harvell on April 16, 2007, 12:30:33 am
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Can anyone help me get pi-sync running with my linux desktop?  I enabled the option on the zaurus but I can't find the option in the linux kde pim apps.  Nor does multisync or any other sync app have a pi-sync option.
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From what I recall I think the pi-sync option is only with KO/PI source code version.  The one you would have to compile and download from the zautrix website.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: uth on June 05, 2007, 09:27:09 am
Does anybody have KO/PI running on a modern Linux system?   It looks like it hasn't been updated in awhile, and it won't compile on Fedora 5 for me.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: alijames on June 05, 2007, 10:24:13 am
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Does anybody have KO/PI running on a modern Linux system?   It looks like it hasn't been updated in awhile, and it won't compile on Fedora 5 for me.
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IIRC, you need to use gcc 2.95.

gcc 3.x or 4.x fails.

Cheers,

Alistair
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: harvell on November 27, 2007, 11:34:10 am
Has anyone noticed that http://www.pi-sync.net (http://www.pi-sync.net) is down.  
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tux on May 06, 2008, 04:03:40 am
Quote from: harvell
Has anyone noticed that http://www.pi-sync.net (http://www.pi-sync.net) is down.  
 Yes that link is dead.  But as noted in this linked thread,  Version 2.2.9 available, there is a new version for the Zs.   (https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25683)

No apologies for pasting the contents of the first post from zautrix.

zautrix wrote:

"Hi folks!

I just uploaded version 2.2.9 of KDE/Pim PI.
This is for Zaurus/Sharp Rom only.

A new version for Windows will follow later (in 1-2 weeks maybe).

And yes - you did not miss version 2.2.8.
It was only in the source cvs and I never uploaded a binary version.


z.






Info about the changes in new versions of KDE-Pim/Pi

********** VERSION 2.2.9 ************

Again I added some features I was missing...

Added in KO/Pi alarm applet for the zaurus the possibility to
- set the suspend duration for the next suspended alarm
- display the currently suspended alarm and remove it

Fixed in KO/Pi What'sNext view the display of recurring multiday and allday events.

Changed in KO/Pi What'sNext view the display of multiday events.
Now for events longer than 3 days only the start date and the end date of the event is displayed.
Fixed in What'sNext view some problems with recurring todos.
Added to the action menu the possibility to change quickly the number of displayed days in the What'sNext view.

Added to overdue todos in What'sNext view the info about how many days that todo is overdue.

Added to the list view and search list a column "proi" which display the priority of todos.

Added to the print dialog (only available in desktop versions) when printing todos another feature: Now you can specify the number of topmost prios of todos you want to print out. E.g. you can print only your todos of priority 1-2.


********** VERSION 2.2.8 ************


I forgot what I fixed...

Some minor fixes in KA/Pi and KO/Pi.

KA/Pi uses popup menu now for quick category selection in contact edit dialog.

In the Pi-syc mode of KO/Pi it is now possible to define specific resources which can be synced with the remote pi-sync server.
This feature must be considered as unstable - it still needs some more testing.

On Wintendo now KA/Pi can sync with Outlook. The configuration of the sync needs some moer tweking.
Fixed some gcc 4.xx compilation probs.
Fixed an annoying cursor focus reset problem when editing and (auto-)saving journal enries in KO/Pi.

Added:
OOps, I forgot the download link:

Download 2.2.9 (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=104103&use_mirror=osdn&filename=kdepim_2.2.9_for_SharpRom.ipk.zip&85977742)

Not only is the zip for the Zs there but also the latest source. So if you want to install to your linux or Windows'  boxes feel free to go to Sourceforge and download the source for yourselves.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: speculatrix on May 06, 2008, 07:46:43 am
woo!
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tux on May 07, 2008, 11:36:16 am
Quote from: speculatrix
woo!
 Zautrix has just reported that he has uploaded 2.2.10 for Sharp rom and for Suse 10.3.

He also says that the Windows version is to be uploaded in 3 to 4 weeks!

He is also contacting the chap who is trying to get it running on the Nokia 810.

         
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: Snappy on May 09, 2008, 11:35:42 am
The "Download" link above is truncated.  Here's the link (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=104103&use_mirror=osdn&filename=kdepim_2.2.9_for_SharpRom.ipk.zip&85977742)
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: tux on May 09, 2008, 02:18:27 pm
Quote from: Snappy
The "Download" link above is truncated.  Here's the link (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=104103&use_mirror=osdn&filename=kdepim_2.2.9_for_SharpRom.ipk.zip&85977742)
 Thanks Snappy, must have borked it when I pasted zautrix's post over. I have corrected it above: but here is the link to the kdepimpi section on Sourceforge kdepimpi at Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/). Since the link above just downloads 2.2.9 and the latest version is 2.2.10 and the source files and an rpm is available at this link, I would think it should prove useful.
Title: Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
Post by: HoloVector on May 09, 2008, 10:04:16 pm
Wow!  That's great news.  Thanks Zautrix!