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Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: craigtyson on May 23, 2005, 12:37:42 pm
Anyone tried this for qpe or X ???

Aparently its a cutdown fork of Mozilla for Linux arm and WinCE/PPC

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/ (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/)
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: adf on May 23, 2005, 01:37:51 pm
yes. works better in pdaxrom than gpe on my 6k.  not quite ready for prime time eithter way. Have a look though... it is promising.
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: koen on May 24, 2005, 03:55:40 am
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yes. works better in pdaxrom than gpe on my 6k.  not quite ready for prime time eithter way. Have a look though... it is promising.
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As part of my everlasting quest for GPE word domination, I'm curious what the differences are between the pdaX and gpe version. Could you look up the versionnumber of both ipkgs?
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: pgas on May 24, 2005, 04:10:19 am
note that your world domination plan has been progressing with the latest pdaxrom release as

gpe-calculator_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk        
gpe-conf_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk                
gpe-edit_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk            
gpe-gallery_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk          
gpe-icons_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk            
gpe-irc_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk                
gpe-word_20050207-1_armv5tel.ipk        

are present in the "official" feed.

minimo ipk package version says 1.75... I believe the sources used are here:
http://pdaxrom.spy.org/src/ (http://pdaxrom.spy.org/src/)

and the "patches" are here:
http://pdaxrom.spy.org/patches-local/mozilla-source-1.7.5/ (http://pdaxrom.spy.org/patches-local/mozilla-source-1.7.5/)
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: koen on May 24, 2005, 04:39:07 am
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minimo ipk package version says 1.75... I believe the sources used are here:
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Wow, that's a blast from the past. The minimo in OZ/GPE 3.5.3 contains all sorts of improvements over the mozilla 1.75 one. Doug Turner has been doing a lot of work on it between december and march. (OK, he broke the scrollbars too)
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: lardman on May 24, 2005, 05:13:39 am
I was going to say - the only minor issue is the lack of scoll bars, that said the cursor keys scroll just fine (and I'd have used them anyway), other than that it works very well for me.


Si
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: ScottYelich on May 27, 2005, 10:16:31 am
last time I tried minimo (under pdaX), it had a 21MB footprint.

21MB out of 64MB total?  worth it?  naw.

What's the best, SMALLEST GRAPHICAL WEB browser?

lynks -g?

Scott
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: koen on May 27, 2005, 11:41:59 am
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last time I tried minimo (under pdaX), it had a 21MB footprint.

21MB out of 64MB total?  worth it?  naw.

What's the best, SMALLEST GRAPHICAL WEB browser?

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=81807\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I don't know what the pdaX people package, but over here it's about 6MB
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: pgas on May 27, 2005, 01:53:16 pm
I think that ScottYellich was talking about memory usage and that koen is talking about diskspace. Am I wrong? I think memory usage is highly dependent on what you load.

I m not sure that a definitive solution exists and that there is a tradeoff between having full (x)html css and javascript (+plugin?) support and performance.

Links -g is great but not all sites are rendered correctly, Opera is perhaps the best exsisting tradeoff..but you also often read that it needs a lot of memory (I didn´t use opera a lot).

Having said that,  the last time I tried minimo (on OZ/gpe ) I was impressed by the work that has been done. Starting minimo is for instance much much faster than starting firefox.
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: adf on May 27, 2005, 03:31:50 pm
not to be a bummer, but the OZ/gpe minimo on the 6k (checked on mutiple clean flashes) wouldn't send username password, that kind of stuff.... I couldn't log in anywhere--useless. Didn't really bother much with it on pdaX-- firefox works fine..and dillo if I need something small but effective (no ssl though).  Other than that minimo is making progress. It certainly renders better, and "feels" less sluggish. based on the general cross platform interest, and Moz's record I'd expect a "good" minimo within the year.
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: koen on May 27, 2005, 05:07:38 pm
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not to be a bummer, but the OZ/gpe minimo on the 6k (checked on mutiple clean flashes) wouldn't send username password, that kind of stuff.... I couldn't log in anywhere--useless. Didn't really bother much with it on pdaX-- firefox works fine..and dillo if I need something small but effective (no ssl though).  Other than that minimo is making progress. It certainly renders better, and "feels" less sluggish. based on the general cross platform interest, and Moz's record I'd expect a "good" minimo within the year.
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Since OE build minimo straight from cvs, could you see what date it is from? The ipkg filename should contain the builddate.
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: adf on May 27, 2005, 05:13:59 pm
I don't have it on board anymore.
I can tell you that all my attempts were within a week of the 3.5.3 release, though.
At the time i was having this error, and I think lardman was not having it on his clamshell.  I suspected then that it might have to do with the 6k build.

Is there anyone with a 6000 running 3.5.3 and using minimo now that can comment?
Title: Anyone Tried Minimo
Post by: ScottYelich on May 28, 2005, 08:33:53 am
pgas -- correct. I don't remember what version of minimo this was, offhand...
but it would start with like 14MB MEMORY footprint, but if you loaded even
a blank page, it would jump up to 21MB.  However, you could then load, say,
www.cnn.com and it would only jump to 22MB or so.

Scott