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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 03, 2005, 11:30:25 am
I will consider building the jumbo package if there is sufficient interest
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sriley on June 03, 2005, 11:42:03 am
Simplifying installation of multiple packages is always a Good Thing, IMO.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 03, 2005, 12:05:29 pm
While I think it's been a great (and sometimes painful..) learning experience to install things manually, as sriley says it's probably good to have another choice for those that can't install by themselves...

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: nathanwms on June 03, 2005, 12:15:50 pm
Meanie, I say 'build it and they will come.'  OK, I may not have been the first to say it.  The easier it is for newbies to take advantage of the hardware features and available software options for the Zaurus the more people it will attract and that would be great.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: oncle-dave on June 03, 2005, 01:18:32 pm
I Think it's good idea ..  



Oncle-Dave.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: KwaiFeh on June 03, 2005, 08:02:15 pm
a package would really help us newbies.  specially those of us afraid of bricking the new expensive toys and being too dumb to fix them.  I'm still a bit of a chicken to do the more extensive software mods..
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: osx4zaurus on June 05, 2005, 06:53:21 pm
Please do.  I keep meaning to install this but haven't gotten around to assembling all the packages.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 06, 2005, 05:54:25 am
well ok, seems like lots of people want it, so I am going to do it once I get back from Brisbane (going tomorrow)
However, I need some volunteers to be guinea pigs/testers  Anyone feel lucky enough?
Also, once the package has been tested successfully, I will need a place to host it as well...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: oncle-dave on June 06, 2005, 12:40:04 pm
If it's possible , i want to be a Beta Tester  


oncle-dave
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sriley on June 06, 2005, 12:58:17 pm
I'd test it, too.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: robertcloud on June 06, 2005, 02:09:05 pm
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I will consider building the jumbo package if there is sufficient interest
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It would be fantastic if you could simplify the x/qt pocketworkstation installation.  I would be more than happy to help out if I could.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Drantin on June 07, 2005, 09:12:27 am
Consider me in (btw: this is the same person that emailed you via your on.net addy...)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 11, 2005, 09:09:37 am
I am back home and have build the jumbo package. It's 15 MB in size.

osx4zaurus has offered to host the file so I will be sending him the package first for him to put up on his site. Then a few of you will receive the secret link to the beta package for testing.
Once it is tested and xqt can be installed successfully with this package (and all the install bugs have been eliminated) the link will be made known to everyone.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: cmpayc on June 11, 2005, 11:53:06 am
Meanie,

I would test it to.

Best regards

cmpayc (@mail.ru)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 12, 2005, 10:41:59 pm
Some of you will have private messages with a link to the jumbo package for beta testing if you are still interested in testing. hopefully it will be a very smooth and pleasant experience (albeit very slow and long one since there are lots of files being installed)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: tovarish on June 13, 2005, 07:59:34 am
which packages it is made up of. are you compiling stuff or picking them up from the xqt feed. if you afre compiling then could you include a package for gaim please....

tovarish
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: BramK on June 13, 2005, 08:40:56 am
Meanie,

In case you need another tester. It is time I start doing something useful with the C3000, thus consider me available.

BramK.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 14, 2005, 10:22:45 pm
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Meanie,

In case you need another tester. It is time I start doing something useful with the C3000, thus consider me available.

BramK.
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So far the test has been very positive so I expect to be able to release the package really soon.

I have repackaged firefox as well in a QT friendly way so in theory, anyone with sharp/cacko rom should be able to install xqt jumbo package and firefox (provided they have sufficient space)
any volunteers to test this? should also work with c1000, c860, etc...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 14, 2005, 10:28:41 pm
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which packages it is made up of. are you compiling stuff or picking them up from the xqt feed. if you afre compiling then could you include a package for gaim please....

tovarish
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I just repackaged and combined files from the two xqt feeds and pdaxrom feed so once this package is installed, you got X/Qt and GTK installed with the target being able to install and run Mozilla Firefox and Debian PocketWorkstation.

You should be able to install gaim quite easily, although there are a lot of packages for gaim just like Xqt. Maybe an optional jumbo gaim package would be a good idea to supplement the xqt jumbo package.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: mtnkill on June 14, 2005, 11:03:16 pm
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any volunteers to test this? should also work with c1000, c860, etc...

I'll test.  I have a c1000.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 15, 2005, 07:53:36 am
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any volunteers to test this? should also work with c1000, c860, etc...

I'll test.  I have a c1000.
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great  check your pm.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: osx4zaurus on June 15, 2005, 11:03:24 am
Here are my experiences with the package.  I initially tried it on the older stock sharp rom and installation finished.  It did report the "this package seems to depend on other packages, please install them" message.  I then installed a version of firefox from pdaxrom.  X worked, but firefox started the "select a new user" dialog and insisted that the "default" user was already in use.  Creating a new user failed because of file permissions.  I then started an xterm (NICE!) and su to root and ran firefox.  It ran find as root.  Eventually I ran into a problem where the screen would not respond to input and rebooted.  After this I got the hd1 error and zaurus would not boot.  I booted to single user mode, reformatted hd1 and reinstalled hd1 from a tar backup.  I then upgraded to the newest sharp stock kernel.  I left the machine in stock japanese  and installed the packages.  Same problem at startup with firefox.  Another file permission problem causes the startx icon to fail after the first shutdown of X - the authority files from the old session are not cleared and can't be over written so X won't restart.  You can force a restart from a shell.  With the new rom I experienced no problems except those related to file permissions.

On another note - does anyone have an idea what the speed difference between running X/Qt and native X (say pdaxrom) is?  I also noticed that firefox refused to do downloads because "not enough memory available"

The package is almost ready - just some file permission changes and maybe inclusion of a few other X apps and possibly matchbox?  Thanks Meanie!!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: beowolf on June 15, 2005, 11:41:09 am
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any volunteers to test this? should also work with c1000, c860, etc...

I'll test.  I have a c1000.
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great  check your pm.
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Hi Meanie,

Do you need anymore C3000 testers?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 16, 2005, 07:57:25 am
I think the xqt jumbo package is working nicely now for the C3000 model. firefox has a few issues but they are not xqt related.
I also have 1 tester for a c860 and the results look promising for that too so it looks like the package will be fine for c3000/c1000/c860. other models might work, but will need keyboard remappings.

Does anyone know whether it is possible to move this thread over to the X/qt section or do I need to create a new thread there?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: KwaiFeh on June 16, 2005, 09:42:57 am
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I just repackaged and combined files from the two xqt feeds and pdaxrom feed so once this package is installed, you got X/Qt and GTK installed with the target being able to install and run Mozilla Firefox and Debian PocketWorkstation.

You should be able to install gaim quite easily, although there are a lot of packages for gaim just like Xqt. Maybe an optional jumbo gaim package would be a good idea to supplement the xqt jumbo package.
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I would really look forward for an gaim package.  
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Greg2 on June 16, 2005, 09:48:32 am
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Does anyone know whether it is possible to move this thread over to the X/qt section or do I need to create a new thread there?
Meanie, just click on Report at the bottom of your post and request that it be moved by someone with admin. options.

Greg
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: asola on June 20, 2005, 07:35:06 am
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I think the xqt jumbo package is working nicely now for the C3000 model. firefox has a few issues but they are not xqt related.
I also have 1 tester for a c860 and the results look promising for that too so it looks like the package will be fine for c3000/c1000/c860. other models might work, but will need keyboard remappings.

Does anyone know whether it is possible to move this thread over to the X/qt section or do I need to create a new thread there?
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Hi Meanie,

When do you plan to make the package public? I just had to reset my Cacko3Kb1 installation and would be happy to have XQt installed so easily.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 20, 2005, 09:42:17 am
Hi Meanie,

Well, like asola, I am ready to try your jumbo package as something is not working now with my X/Qt/Debian setup....

I tried out QuantumSTEP on my Z and it works but I think it must have changed something. Now, X/Qt/Debian is not working when I try to start it up...

So either I try your jumbo package or will need to do manual install again....

However, one question for you please....

I installed X/Qt/Debian to my microdrive on my C3000 instead of using a external storage card. Can I do this with your jumbo package??

Thanks!

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 21, 2005, 08:04:26 am
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Hi Meanie,

Well, like asola, I am ready to try your jumbo package as something is not working now with my X/Qt/Debian setup....

I tried out QuantumSTEP on my Z and it works but I think it must have changed something. Now, X/Qt/Debian is not working when I try to start it up...

So either I try your jumbo package or will need to do manual install again....

However, one question for you please....

I installed X/Qt/Debian to my microdrive on my C3000 instead of using a external storage card. Can I do this with your jumbo package??

Thanks!

Mark
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The jumbo package only installs X/Qt. The debian package is next if I have time.
For your problem, you should only need to reinstall the debian-startscripts. Quantumsteps overwrote your .xinitrc file.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 21, 2005, 09:13:22 am
Thanks as always for your help, Meanie!

Will try reinstalling the debian-startscripts....

*** If I do try installing your jumbo package can I install it to my internal drive or only to external storage card like SD or CF ???

Thanks,

Mark

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The jumbo package only installs X/Qt. The debian package is next if I have time.
For your problem, you should only need to reinstall the debian-startscripts. Quantumsteps overwrote your .xinitrc file.
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Hi Meanie,

Well, like asola, I am ready to try your jumbo package as something is not working now with my X/Qt/Debian setup....

I tried out QuantumSTEP on my Z and it works but I think it must have changed something. Now, X/Qt/Debian is not working when I try to start it up...

So either I try your jumbo package or will need to do manual install again....

However, one question for you please....

I installed X/Qt/Debian to my microdrive on my C3000 instead of using a external storage card. Can I do this with your jumbo package??

Thanks!

Mark
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 21, 2005, 09:23:39 am
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Thanks as always for your help, Meanie!

Will try reinstalling the debian-startscripts....

*** If I do try installing your jumbo package can I install it to my internal drive or only to external storage card like SD or CF ???

Thanks,

Mark

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The jumbo package only installs X/Qt. The debian package is next if I have time.
For your problem, you should only need to reinstall the debian-startscripts. Quantumsteps overwrote your .xinitrc file.
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Hi Meanie,

Well, like asola, I am ready to try your jumbo package as something is not working now with my X/Qt/Debian setup....

I tried out QuantumSTEP on my Z and it works but I think it must have changed something. Now, X/Qt/Debian is not working when I try to start it up...

So either I try your jumbo package or will need to do manual install again....

However, one question for you please....

I installed X/Qt/Debian to my microdrive on my C3000 instead of using a external storage card. Can I do this with your jumbo package??

Thanks!

Mark
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The jumbo package install to internal drive without any problems at all. Not sure whether it installs to sd/cf, never tried it myself.

so far it has been tested successfully on c3000 and c860. still having problems on c1000
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 21, 2005, 09:36:59 am
Thanks for clarifying, Meanie!

Mark


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The jumbo package install to internal drive without any problems at all. Not sure whether it installs to sd/cf, never tried it myself.

so far it has been tested successfully on c3000 and c860. still having problems on c1000
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Thanks as always for your help, Meanie!

Will try reinstalling the debian-startscripts....

*** If I do try installing your jumbo package can I install it to my internal drive or only to external storage card like SD or CF ???

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 21, 2005, 08:15:04 pm
Hi Meanie,

Well....things have not gone as well as I'd hoped regarding getting X/Qt/Debian reinstalled using your jumbo package....

Have noticed a few strange things...wonder what you think is going on...here's what I did:

1) Deinstalled my previous installation

2) Installed your jumbo package, like others got error message that 'install depended upon some other items...'.

3) Noticed that I have 'Pocket Workstation(Debian)' icon and 'StartX' icon but no 'X Server' icon like in previous manual installation.

Is this supposed to be that way??

4) Followed your website Debian install instructions and installed your 'Debian startup scripts'. However, when I click PocketWorkstation icon, it only gets as far as the X 'rxvt window opening....no Debian/iceWM opens up.

I tried typing in that window:
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$xlauncher debian
$
qtApInit
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/ja_JP.eucJP/libsl.qmid
qtRandRRotate(270)
_XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
_XSERVTransMakeALLCOTSServerListener: server already running

Fatal Server Error:
Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running
failed to set locale, reverting to "C"
rxvt: Setting locale failed.
BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server.
another window manager is already running on display :0.0.
Blackbox::Blackbox: no manageable screens found, aborting

waiting for X server to shut down

Wondering if I need to install XServer manually??

Also, do I need to install Blackbox manually??

What do you suggest??

Thanks for your help!

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on June 21, 2005, 10:22:48 pm
I still havent figured about which library is complaining about the dependencies but the library complaining is definately not needed so I just need to remove it from the package once I find which the offending library is.

I moved the X Server icon to the Settings Tab

The jumbo package includes the debian startup scripts so installing that package just overwrote it with the same files I hope

Make sure you were using the 0.3 version of the debian startup scripts (which is the same as the one in the jumbo package)  It looks like you may have installed an older version (0.2) of the debian startup scripts. If that is the case, simply uninstall the debian scripts and put the newer 0.3 debian-startup scripts in.

The other errors you got were because you tried to run X from within X. xlauncher should only be run from outside the X environment. I should add a check to it and make sure it only runs when its not in X.




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Hi Meanie,

Well....things have not gone as well as I'd hoped regarding getting X/Qt/Debian reinstalled using your jumbo package....

Have noticed a few strange things...wonder what you think is going on...here's what I did:

1) Deinstalled my previous installation

2) Installed your jumbo package, like others got error message that 'install depended upon some other items...'.

3) Noticed that I have 'Pocket Workstation(Debian)' icon and 'StartX' icon but no 'X Server' icon like in previous manual installation.

Is this supposed to be that way??

4) Followed your website Debian install instructions and installed your 'Debian startup scripts'. However, when I click PocketWorkstation icon, it only gets as far as the X 'rxvt window opening....no Debian/iceWM opens up.

I tried typing in that window:
Code: [Select]
$xlauncher debian
$
qtApInit
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/ja_JP.eucJP/libsl.qmid
qtRandRRotate(270)
_XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
_XSERVTransMakeALLCOTSServerListener: server already running

Fatal Server Error:
Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running
failed to set locale, reverting to "C"
rxvt: Setting locale failed.
BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server.
another window manager is already running on display :0.0.
Blackbox::Blackbox: no manageable screens found, aborting

waiting for X server to shut down

Wondering if I need to install XServer manually??

Also, do I need to install Blackbox manually??

What do you suggest??

Thanks for your help!

Mark
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 21, 2005, 10:43:46 pm
Thanks for your reply, Meanie!

Yes, I see the X Server icon now in the Settings Tab

I checked and I did use the '0.3' version of the debian startup scripts...  

I had a feeling that I wasn't supposed to run X from within X....  

Hmmm....so what do you suggest now???

Should I try going through all your steps in your Debian instructions again??

If so, what should I do if anything, before doing that??

Or????

Also, remembered one more strange thing....now I can't turn off my C3000 with the On/Off button!!

Don't know if this has to do with installing jumbo package or de-installing previous X/Qt/Debian install or QuantumSTEP or ???..... In fact, after I click the On/Off button, Z freezes up now....then have to reset Z and reboot....  

Thanks for any help.

Mark

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I still havent figured about which library is complaining about the dependencies but the library complaining is definately not needed so I just need to remove it from the package once I find which the offending library is.

I moved the X Server icon to the Settings Tab

The jumbo package includes the debian startup scripts so installing that package just overwrote it with the same files I hope

Make sure you were using the 0.3 version of the debian startup scripts (which is the same as the one in the jumbo package)  It looks like you may have installed an older version (0.2) of the debian startup scripts. If that is the case, simply uninstall the debian scripts and put the newer 0.3 debian-startup scripts in.

The other errors you got were because you tried to run X from within X. xlauncher should only be run from outside the X environment. I should add a check to it and make sure it only runs when its not in X.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: asola on June 22, 2005, 04:51:07 am
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Thanks for your reply, Meanie!

Yes, I see the X Server icon now in the Settings Tab

I checked and I did use the '0.3' version of the debian startup scripts...  

I had a feeling that I wasn't supposed to run X from within X....  

Hmmm....so what do you suggest now???

Should I try going through all your steps in your Debian instructions again??

If so, what should I do if anything, before doing that??

Or????

Also, remembered one more strange thing....now I can't turn off my C3000 with the On/Off button!!

Don't know if this has to do with installing jumbo package or de-installing previous X/Qt/Debian install or QuantumSTEP or ???..... In fact, after I click the On/Off button, Z freezes up now....then have to reset Z and reboot....  

Thanks for any help.

Mark

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I still havent figured about which library is complaining about the dependencies but the library complaining is definately not needed so I just need to remove it from the package once I find which the offending library is.

I moved the X Server icon to the Settings Tab

The jumbo package includes the debian startup scripts so installing that package just overwrote it with the same files I hope

Make sure you were using the 0.3 version of the debian startup scripts (which is the same as the one in the jumbo package)  It looks like you may have installed an older version (0.2) of the debian startup scripts. If that is the case, simply uninstall the debian scripts and put the newer 0.3 debian-startup scripts in.

The other errors you got were because you tried to run X from within X. xlauncher should only be run from outside the X environment. I should add a check to it and make sure it only runs when its not in X.
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The on/off problem may be due to the sudo package which kills the Advanced Power Management on the Zaurus. See the thread about it, it is recent.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on June 22, 2005, 08:56:59 am
Thanks for the tip about the sudo package, asola!

Will check out that post....would be nice to be able to turn off my Z again....
 

Mark

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The on/off problem may be due to the sudo package which kills the Advanced Power Management on the Zaurus. See the thread about it, it is recent.
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: kooie on June 26, 2005, 10:12:39 pm
Hi Meanie,

Thanks for helping us with this jumbo package as well as the informative site.  I am rather new to Linux, and have been having some problems with the installation of X/QT on my C3K.  Any chance of getting a hold of the Jumbo Package to see if that might work?  Thanks in advance for your help.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on June 26, 2005, 10:41:14 pm
hmmm no updates? dang getting 3100 sooon, they should arrive fairly quick. The x/qt+debian install will definately be my first go, then firefox/thunderbird/openoffice. I'm so excited I cant stand myself.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Ragnorok on June 28, 2005, 10:20:20 pm
- Last bit wrt the C1000 was "troubles".  Any news?  (grin)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: mtnkill on June 29, 2005, 09:09:57 am
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- Last bit wrt the C1000 was "troubles".  Any news?  (grin)
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I was testing the C1k jumbo install, and was able to get around the 'troubles'.  You need ~30M flash free in order to install.  Pango was also failing a dependency check (libexpat.so.0), but that wasn't critical to getting the X environment up.  I believe meanie was going to fix that anyway.  

The firefox bundle installed fine, but didn't start for me (waited over 7 min. for it to start before giving up).

shane
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: orange on June 30, 2005, 06:03:19 am
Does the jumbo pack run on Cacko 12.3b1 on a 3k? If yes where can I get it?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sw2geeks on July 04, 2005, 01:01:29 pm
Same Here, I would love to get my hands on the jumbo pack if it runs on the 3k with cacko rom.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 04, 2005, 06:40:19 pm
Yes, jumboxqt runs on C3K with Cacko3Kb1.23...

HTH,

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sw2geeks on July 04, 2005, 06:51:53 pm
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Yes, jumboxqt runs on C3K with Cacko3Kb1.23...

HTH,

Mark
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Great, is there a download link to try it out?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 04, 2005, 07:19:52 pm
Yes, there is a download link, sw2geeks, but Meanie needs to give it to you...it's secret....  

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 07, 2005, 09:28:08 am
The package is now in its 0.6 revision and I have been able to get more pdaXrom applications to work with it. So far I have successfully tested it with Firefox, Thunderbird, Gimp, Abiword and Ethereal and apps from the X/Qt feeds like dillo and sylpheed naturally work as well.

Also, many people have been helping me test as well and we have it working on the following models:

C3000
C1000
C3100
C860

more info can be found here:

https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Runnin...g_jumbo_package (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Running_X/Qt_and_X_apps_using_jumbo_package)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: orange on July 07, 2005, 09:52:41 am
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The package is now in its 0.6 revision and I have been able to get more pdaXrom applications to work with it. So far I have successfully tested it with Firefox, Thunderbird, Gimp, Abiword and Ethereal and apps from the X/Qt feeds like dillo and sylpheed naturally work as well.

Also, many people have been helping me test as well and we have it working on the following models:

C3000
C1000
C3100
C860

more info can be found here:

https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Runnin...g_jumbo_package (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Running_X/Qt_and_X_apps_using_jumbo_package)
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sounds very nice but where can I get it?  

thx for the work Meanie and all the testers
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 07, 2005, 02:41:22 pm
I'd like to try out this package also. How do I get it?

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 07, 2005, 04:54:46 pm
Ditto for me too. What's the secret link?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 09, 2005, 03:35:57 am
The link is secret. If I told everyone, then it wouldn't be a secret link anymore. My site is very slow (slow ADSL uplink) and running on a 16 MB Libretto so it can't handle the load.
Please be patient for a while longer. With luck, I will have the files transferred to OESF very soon and then everyone can get it.

https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Runnin...g_jumbo_package (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Running_X/Qt_and_X_apps_using_jumbo_package)

Here's some screenshots of what the latest jumbo package will get you
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 09, 2005, 01:20:07 pm
Ok, I will be patient.

Thanks meanie for all the hardwork.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on July 10, 2005, 11:05:11 am
yes, indeed, thank you for all the hard work, made my install flawless
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 10, 2005, 11:14:39 am
Well, the testing phase has come to a successful completion, which means the jumbo packages are now ready to be released as soon as I can move them to a home with lots of bandwidth.

X/Qt jumbo pack:

- xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk (15MB)

Mozilla Firefox:

- firefox_0.9-2_arm.ipk (7MB)

Debian Pocketworkstation + OpenOffice:

- xqt-debian-install.zip (2k)
- zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz (95MB)
- zaurus-debian-doc-v18.tar.gz (13MB)
- zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz (80MB)

Anyway, I am off to catch a plane...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on July 10, 2005, 11:27:55 am
bummer, wanted the deb-install zip.....
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Scot on July 10, 2005, 09:42:17 pm
Awesome!
Looking forward to trying it.
What is Debian Pocketworkstation, though? (Newbie alert. I do know all about X and OO,
though. :>)

thanks,

scot
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Ragnorok on July 10, 2005, 10:25:48 pm
- Me three!!  (drool)
- Given my not-so-puffy experience this weekend with flashing, I'm a LOT more interested in this Jumbo X/Qt thing that before!  I was interested then, but now it looks like the only potentially viable X game in town for the C1000.  A paltry 213MB will more of an issue at installation time than download, once it's up.  (expectant hand-wringing)  Yehsss massterr...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 11, 2005, 12:38:24 am
I guess my PM didn't make it to you, but I can host the files, if you want. Not sure if the PM thing works, but try to PM me anyway and we can hopefully work out the details....

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Well, the testing phase has come to a successful completion, which means the jumbo packages are now ready to be released as soon as I can move them to a home with lots of bandwidth.

X/Qt jumbo pack:

- xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk (15MB)

Mozilla Firefox:

- firefox_0.9-2_arm.ipk (7MB)

Debian Pocketworkstation + OpenOffice:

- xqt-debian-install.zip (2k)
- zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz (95MB)
- zaurus-debian-doc-v18.tar.gz (13MB)
- zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz (80MB)

Anyway, I am off to catch a plane...
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 15, 2005, 02:06:13 am
I'm waiting for my plane. I will be home soon and then we can get the ball rolling again
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 18, 2005, 08:54:16 am
I updated the debian install script so now it can install my customised debian tarball and openoffice and/or setup debian using the default zaurus-debian-big-v0.18.tgz tarball. It will automate the steps described on my website including creating startd file so all you need to do is place zaurus-debian-big-v0.18.tgz and xqt-debian-install.sh in the same directory and run the script
Of course you need to install X/Qt first

The script can be found here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/ (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/)

The other files will be available soon I hope.

Anyway, I wasted enough time on this already, better continue working on writing some useful application and finishing my novel.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: maystorm on July 18, 2005, 09:21:46 am
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Anyway, I wasted enough time on this already, (...)
No waste of time! A lot of people will appreciate your work!

Thanx a million!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 18, 2005, 09:36:25 am
Just like maystorm said, for all of us Zaurusterati out there, your excellent work and website has been a lifesaver!!

Thanks so much for all you've done for everyone! It is greatly appreciated!

Mark

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Anyway, I wasted enough time on this already, better continue working on writing some useful application and finishing my novel.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 18, 2005, 10:19:19 am
This all sounds incredibly impressive, dare I ask how well it works on a C1000? Can it be installed to an SD card?

Is there a link for it yet? I had a little look in the ELSI, but it didn't pop up there.

BTW, what's your novel about?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 19, 2005, 08:31:34 am
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This all sounds incredibly impressive, dare I ask how well it works on a C1000? Can it be installed to an SD card?

Is there a link for it yet? I had a little look in the ELSI, but it didn't pop up there.

BTW, what's your novel about?
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The xqt jumbo package works well on the C1000 and debian will need to be installed on either a sd or cf card due to the lack of internal disk but it will work.

The install script defaults to installing to /hdd3 but you can easily tell it to install to sd instead.

all you need is a ext2 formatted sd card with at least 512MB

[a href=\"http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html]http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html[/url]

links to the files will be available very very soon. (probably tomorrow)

hmm, my novel is a scifi story and i got my Z initially so i can work on it anywhere i am such as when waiting for food at restaurant so i better get back to doing it
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: oncle-dave on July 19, 2005, 09:25:18 am
Thanks you for your Excelant word .;    


Oncle-dave
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 19, 2005, 10:43:33 am
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hmm, my novel is a scifi story and i got my Z initially so i can work on it anywhere i am such as when waiting for food at restaurant so i better get back to doing it
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First novel? Anything published?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 19, 2005, 12:53:31 pm
how easy is it to uninstall?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 19, 2005, 05:35:12 pm
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Quote
hmm, my novel is a scifi story and i got my Z initially so i can work on it anywhere i am such as when waiting for food at restaurant so i better get back to doing it
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First novel? Anything published?
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got a few stories published already on some specialty sites.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 19, 2005, 05:39:30 pm
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how easy is it to uninstall?
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the xqt jumbo package uses the standard ipk installation and uninstallation mechanism. should simply uninstall like any other package. it may leave behind a few symlinks but they won't hurt reinstallation. the postinstall script does check for invalid links and deals with them.

as for debian, its just a matter of rm pocketworkstation or rm -r /hdd3/debroot
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 19, 2005, 06:44:55 pm
I've posted the aforementioned files at: http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)

Many thanks to Meanie for the hard work of putting everything together for us.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 19, 2005, 09:39:37 pm
i had to redownload like a million times.  i finally got it.

hows traffic?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 19, 2005, 09:41:05 pm
Hmmm I dont see the Jumbo Xqt in the link? or do we still have to ask Meanie?


sojc

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I've posted the aforementioned files at: http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)

Many thanks to Meanie for the hard work of putting everything together for us.
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 19, 2005, 09:46:48 pm
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Hmmm I dont see the Jumbo Xqt in the link? or do we still have to ask Meanie?


sojc

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I've posted the aforementioned files at: http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)

Many thanks to Meanie for the hard work of putting everything together for us.
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is it this one?

zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 19, 2005, 09:56:08 pm
on Meanie site I read  at the top of the page that "xqt-gtk-jumbo_4.3-0.6_arm.ipk"
is the file, right or wrong?



[/quote]


is it this one?

zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
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[/quote]
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 19, 2005, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: sojc,Jul 19 2005, 05:56 PM
on Meanie site I read  at the top of the page that "xqt-gtk-jumbo_4.3-0.6_arm.ipk"
is the file, right or wrong?





is it this one?

zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
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[/quote]
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[/quote]

yeah its missing it.  i tried other things from the terminal so i guess we wait huh!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on July 19, 2005, 10:44:40 pm
I am considering purchasing a web sit to host "things" of this nature.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 12:33:19 am
Quote from: Cresho,Jul 20 2005, 12:04 PM
Quote from: sojc,Jul 19 2005, 05:56 PM
on Meanie site I read  at the top of the page that "xqt-gtk-jumbo_4.3-0.6_arm.ipk"
is the file, right or wrong?





is it this one?

zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
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[/quote]

yeah its missing it.  i tried other things from the terminal so i guess we wait huh!
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[/quote]



yeah, we forgot to put the most important file on  it should get rectified soon
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 20, 2005, 05:27:09 am
you better get your butt in 6th gear buddy cuz i been waiting for something like this to come for a long time.

my beef was running an x environment or another rom image that would break my current setup, hardware compatability and usability.  Now with this option i can run real linux softwares!!!! best off.....newbie friendly.

you just made me drop a load full.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 20, 2005, 10:56:37 am
Am so excited about trying this, but am having probs downloading the files, I seem to get about about 10/15mb of the larger files and then it falls over :-( And as I'm on a company lan, I can't install any download managers. It might be my connection, but usually it's pretty good.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 20, 2005, 12:27:18 pm
ITS UP!




http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)


 
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 20, 2005, 12:45:01 pm
Yep. I uploaded the additional files this morning.

I see that some people are having some transfer issues. I'm not sure if it's related to the site or something else. FWIW, I just downloaded the 13Mb doc file no problem (< 5 min) from here at work.


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ITS UP!




http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)


 
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 20, 2005, 01:19:30 pm
Thanks guys

will give it a try when I get home


sojc
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: maystorm on July 20, 2005, 01:42:24 pm
Thanx!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 20, 2005, 02:06:52 pm
Thanks for all the hardwork.

I had problems downloading this morning. Just kept trying and finally was able to download a few at a time.

Now installing.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 20, 2005, 02:46:10 pm
Jumbo XQ/T package was installed no problems on my C3000 running Cacko3kb1.

It takes about 45 min. The pocket workstation I was not so lucky at. I got some kind of error messages like no such file. Continued to install then finished.

When I click on the Debian Icon. It opens X and appears like it is going to run but then just closes and nothing happens. Nothing happens if I run from terminal window either.

Anyone else having this problem? How to solve. I tried to reinstall again but it ran through the setup super fast and said finished. But still no cigar.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: robertcloud on July 20, 2005, 03:26:51 pm
First, let me say thanks to Meanie for all his hard work in getting this packaged; the X/QT package installed without a hitch on my c1000.

The debian jumbo package installed without an error with the script Meanie wrote.  

There seems to be a problem launching debian though.  The PocketWorkstation icon in the X/QT tab, when clicked, launches X/QT with blackbox, but debian and ICEWM doesn't appear.  The same happens when xlauncher debian is input from the terminal.
It became clear to me that debian wasn't running when I tried to start IceWM and it complained about a library.

I'll try the installation with another pocketworkstation package to see if the problem is solved.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 05:51:23 pm
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First, let me say thanks to Meanie for all his hard work in getting this packaged; the X/QT package installed without a hitch on my c1000.

The debian jumbo package installed without an error with the script Meanie wrote. 

There seems to be a problem launching debian though.  The PocketWorkstation icon in the X/QT tab, when clicked, launches X/QT with blackbox, but debian and ICEWM doesn't appear.  The same happens when xlauncher debian is input from the terminal.
It became clear to me that debian wasn't running when I tried to start IceWM and it complained about a library.

I'll try the installation with another pocketworkstation package to see if the problem is solved.
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I found the problem. The debian install script forgets to update xlauncher script if not installing to default location which is /hdd3/debroot
The next updated install script (v0.3.5) should fix that.
In the meantime, you can edit /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/xlauncher and change the variables under the default settings section.
You probably want to change DEBIMG. Don't worry about the openoffice stuff, that is being handled automatically already
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 06:16:01 pm
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Jumbo XQ/T package was installed no problems on my C3000 running Cacko3kb1.

It takes about 45 min. The pocket workstation I was not so lucky at. I got some kind of error messages like no such file. Continued to install then finished.

When I click on the Debian Icon. It opens X and appears like it is going to run but then just closes and nothing happens. Nothing happens if I run from terminal window either.

Anyone else having this problem? How to solve. I tried to reinstall again but it ran through the setup super fast and said finished. But still no cigar.

Thanks for your help.
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try removing /hdd3/pocketworkstation and rerun the install script.
umount /hdd3/debroot
rm /etc/debroot
rm /hdd3/pocketworkstation

paste a transcript of the installation if it fails again.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 20, 2005, 07:02:00 pm
Thanks for your help meanie.
I removed as above and reinstalled.
This is the transcript:

ash-2.05$ su
bash-2.05# cd /mnt/cf
bash-2.05# ls -a
.                                   xqt-debian-install.sh
..                                  zaurus-debian-doc-v18-1.tar.gz
Documents                           zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
QtPalmtop                           zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz
bash-2.05# su
bash-2.05# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /hdd3/debroot

Debian PocketWorkstation for Zaurus Installer...

Installing PocketWorkstation to /hdd3/debroot
generating ext2 loop filesystem /hdd3/pocketworkstation
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
/hdd3/pocketworkstation is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
131072 inodes, 524288 blocks
26214 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
64 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
2048 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
        8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729, 204801, 221185, 401409

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

This filesystem will be automatically checked every 33 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
/hdd3/pocketworkstation created
/hdd3/pocketworkstation mounted
Extracting Debian binaries. This will take a while ...
 
zcat: zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz: unexpected end of file
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
Debian files extracted.
Extracting OpenOffice binaries
OpenOffice files extracted.
preparing your network
Your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf under /hdd3/debroot have been updated.Please update them manually if your network settings or status changes.
 
Debian has been installed.
You can launch Debian from the Qt desktop via its icon or use:
xlauncher debian
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 07:07:58 pm
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Thanks for your help meanie.
I removed as above and reinstalled.
This is the transcript:

ash-2.05$ su
bash-2.05# cd /mnt/cf
bash-2.05# ls -a
.                                   xqt-debian-install.sh
..                                  zaurus-debian-doc-v18-1.tar.gz
Documents                           zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
QtPalmtop                           zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz
bash-2.05# su
bash-2.05# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /hdd3/debroot

Debian PocketWorkstation for Zaurus Installer...

Installing PocketWorkstation to /hdd3/debroot
generating ext2 loop filesystem /hdd3/pocketworkstation
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
/hdd3/pocketworkstation is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
131072 inodes, 524288 blocks
26214 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
64 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
2048 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
        8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729, 204801, 221185, 401409

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

This filesystem will be automatically checked every 33 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
/hdd3/pocketworkstation created
/hdd3/pocketworkstation mounted
Extracting Debian binaries. This will take a while ...
 
zcat: zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz: unexpected end of file
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
Debian files extracted.
Extracting OpenOffice binaries
OpenOffice files extracted.
preparing your network
Your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf under /hdd3/debroot have been updated.Please update them manually if your network settings or status changes.
 
Debian has been installed.
You can launch Debian from the Qt desktop via its icon or use:
xlauncher debian
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It looks like your zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz is only a partial file.
you can check by running

# zcat zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz | tar tvf -

it should list all the files without error messages
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 20, 2005, 07:26:41 pm
Thanks again Meanie.

Yes it shows error messages like you said.

I will remove, and reinstall the debian file from the web. Perhaps with the heavy traffic I
was unable to download completely. I tried lots of times this morning before I finally was able to download.

Could I also download from somewhere else? Or should I continue to download it from the site on this thread?

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 20, 2005, 07:55:50 pm
Quote
Quote
Thanks for your help meanie.
I removed as above and reinstalled.
This is the transcript:

ash-2.05$ su
bash-2.05# cd /mnt/cf
bash-2.05# ls -a
.                                   xqt-debian-install.sh
..                                  zaurus-debian-doc-v18-1.tar.gz
Documents                           zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
QtPalmtop                           zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz
bash-2.05# su
bash-2.05# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /hdd3/debroot

Debian PocketWorkstation for Zaurus Installer...

Installing PocketWorkstation to /hdd3/debroot
generating ext2 loop filesystem /hdd3/pocketworkstation
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
/hdd3/pocketworkstation is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
131072 inodes, 524288 blocks
26214 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
64 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
2048 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
        8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729, 204801, 221185, 401409

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

This filesystem will be automatically checked every 33 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
/hdd3/pocketworkstation created
/hdd3/pocketworkstation mounted
Extracting Debian binaries. This will take a while ...
 
zcat: zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz: unexpected end of file
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
Debian files extracted.
Extracting OpenOffice binaries
OpenOffice files extracted.
preparing your network
Your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf under /hdd3/debroot have been updated.Please update them manually if your network settings or status changes.
 
Debian has been installed.
You can launch Debian from the Qt desktop via its icon or use:
xlauncher debian
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It looks like your zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz is only a partial file.
you can check by running

# zcat zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz | tar tvf -

it should list all the files without error messages
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You can also do a
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gunzip -test zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz
I think I'll try to add MD5 sums to the page so everyone can check the files that way...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 20, 2005, 08:18:36 pm
Ok, downloaded debian file again and reinstalled.

Worked perfectly. Thanks meanie for all your hardwork. It looks awesome. I payed around with your instructions before the jumbo pack and I know how much time it takes to install and reinstall - and still not get it to work. So thanks again, you have done all of us newbies a GREAT HELP.

Thanks chuckster for your fast reply as well.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 20, 2005, 09:42:35 pm
....never mind  

but i do have one thing...it asks to install a file that i dont know which one i need.

missing lib or something. fresh install on c1000
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 10:48:35 pm
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hi guys

i installed xqt and it installed flawlessley but when i look into the xlauncher file in the bin, it says to look for files in hdd3 but i am force installing into the card which is the /mnt/card

is there anything wrong with this picture?  i am a c1000 user.

when in installed the debian, the first time, it could not create simlink so i edited the installer sh file and replaced all /hdd3 with /mnt/card and it installed flawlessly with no errors but i still cant launch it from xlauncher or anything.  any ideas?

one last thing

after installing the xqt, it was reffering to a file which i did not have and asked me to please install them.  this is on a zaurus c1000 fresh.  nothing installed.
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there is a post earlier describing the change required for xlauncher.
this is going to be fixed with an updated install script as well.

what file did it refer to?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 20, 2005, 10:50:36 pm
lib something .so

i cant remember and i cant replicate it.

here we go..

i launched xlauncher and typed abiword

it asks for shared libraries libconv.so.2
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 20, 2005, 11:31:05 pm
Quote
lib something .so

i cant remember and i cant replicate it.

here we go..

i launched xlauncher and typed abiword

it asks for shared libraries libconv.so.2
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you need to install libiconv_1.8-2_arm.ipk
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 21, 2005, 08:12:09 am
An updated debian install script (version 0.3.5) is available now from
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jum...ian-install.zip (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqt-debian-install.zip)

this one will allow you to install to other location (without needing you to edit the script and it will also update xlauncher)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 21, 2005, 09:04:06 am
This is great, Meanie!

Also, thanks to Chuckster for hosting the files!

However, first time I downloaded the 'debian-jumbo-v18-b01' file it was 149MB in size. Then redownloaded it and it is 166MB in size. Did the check on the file and got some error messages..  

Would be great to know how large the downloaded file should be?

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: tekwizard on July 21, 2005, 09:20:04 am
Quote
Quote
lib something .so

i cant remember and i cant replicate it.

here we go..

i launched xlauncher and typed abiword

it asks for shared libraries libconv.so.2
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you need to install libiconv_1.8-2_arm.ipk
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Hello,

I'm getting lots of error while starting Abiword, all related to xpm support or gtkiconfactory, for instance:

"(abiword:433) GdkPixbuf-Warning **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file
'/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': no such file or dir

Error loading XPM image loader imagetype 'xpm' is not supported"

Any clue whats going wrong and how to fix?

Thanks in advance,

Sebastian
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 21, 2005, 09:56:01 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
lib something .so

i cant remember and i cant replicate it.

here we go..

i launched xlauncher and typed abiword

it asks for shared libraries libconv.so.2
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you need to install libiconv_1.8-2_arm.ipk
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Hello,

I'm getting lots of error while starting Abiword, all related to xpm support or gtkiconfactory, for instance:

"(abiword:433) GdkPixbuf-Warning **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file
'/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': no such file or dir

Error loading XPM image loader imagetype 'xpm' is not supported"

Any clue whats going wrong and how to fix?

Thanks in advance,

Sebastian
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run

gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /opt/QtPalmtop/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 21, 2005, 10:46:18 am
Quote
This is great, Meanie!

Also, thanks to Chuckster for hosting the files!

However, first time I downloaded the 'debian-jumbo-v18-b01' file it was 149MB in size. Then redownloaded it and it is 166MB in size. Did the check on the file and got some error messages..   

Would be great to know how large the downloaded file should be?

Thanks,

Mark
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The page does have the sizes of the packages (just to the right of the download link.) Here they are for reference:

xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.zip 14.8Mb
xqt-debian-install.zip 2.2K
zaurus-debian-doc-v18.tar.gz 13.1Mb
zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz 94.5Mb
zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz 77.7Mb
firefox_0.9-2_arm.zip 7.1Mb

It sounds like your browser was trying to uncompress the file as it downloaded since you got more than 94.5Mb.  You might try using "wget" (either from Linux or the Cygwin version for Windows) to download the files. I've had more success in the past downloading large files with it than using a browser...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 21, 2005, 11:07:03 am
Thanks for the info, chuckster!

Actually, I went ahead and downloaded debian-jumbo file again this morning. This time it downloaded as a 94.5MB file!... go figure....  

FWIW, I'm using Safari as browser on my desktop Mac....

Thanks again for hosting files!

Mark

Quote
The page does have the sizes of the packages (just to the right of the download link.) Here they are for reference:

xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.zip 14.8Mb
xqt-debian-install.zip 2.2K
zaurus-debian-doc-v18.tar.gz 13.1Mb
zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz 94.5Mb
zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz 77.7Mb
firefox_0.9-2_arm.zip 7.1Mb

It sounds like your browser was trying to uncompress the file as it downloaded since you got more than 94.5Mb.  You might try using "wget" (either from Linux or the Cygwin version for Windows) to download the files. I've had more success in the past downloading large files with it than using a browser...
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 21, 2005, 01:09:37 pm
Ok, I have another minor problem.

The / key prints a letter d on the terminal window. If I do shift plus / it closes the terminal.

How do I fix this?

Thanks again/
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: grog on July 21, 2005, 01:58:16 pm
I'm trying to install this onto my poodle (5600), so I don't know if it's even possible. I've successfully installed & configred the package, but I get the following errors:

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[zaurus@grond]<~/Install_Files/watapon/xqt>$ sudo ipkg -d card install xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk
Unpacking xqt-gtk-jumbopack...Done.
Configuring xqt-gtk-jumbopack.../mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/
loading libraries ...
generating pango.modules ...
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/pango/pango.modules: directory non
generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders ...
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: direct
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/mozhomefix: not found
X/Qt installed sucessfully.
Done.
After using ipkg-link successfully & restarting qtopia, I have the tab & all the icons, but nothing happens when I hit the startx icon, so I started some command line testing & edited the startx-wrapper, replacing the hdd3 references to point to the ext2 partition of my sd card (where the package is installed). It still failed after running the startx script.

So I edited the startx script to properly assign the hostname (the hostname command is linked to busybox in my rom which doesn't recognoze the '-f' switch). Finally it got the the end but failed finding librarys:

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[...snip...]
+ xauth list :0
+ grep ':0 '
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ xauth
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ removelist=:0
+ xauth list grond:0
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ grep 'grond:0 '
+ xauth
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ removelist=grond:0 :0
+ xinit /home/zaurus/.xinitrc -- /home/zaurus/.xserverrc
xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ '[' 'xgrond:0 :0 ' '!=' x ']'
+ xauth remove grond:0 :0
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ command -v deallocvt
+ deallocvt
I found a libXmuu.so.1.0 library linked under /opt/QtPalmtop/libs, so I linked that to ibXmuu.so.1, but still the same error. I'm not a unix programmer, so I'm not sure where xinit & xauth are looking for libs, but all the other *X* libs are in that same directory, so I can't be far off .

Any helpful tips? Am I just missing a package?
Thanks in advance
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 21, 2005, 06:27:13 pm
Hi

I installed xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk

The zaurus seemed to hang, so after 10 mins I rebooted it, the XQT is there and seems to work, but I'm afraid I messed it up and didn't want to move on straight away.

I'm on a C1000. I wanted to install this to the SD, but that didn't work, so then tried to internal memory.

Any and all advice gratefully received.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 21, 2005, 06:36:03 pm
takes about 40 minutes to install...disable all screensaver and suspend.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ken on July 21, 2005, 07:02:18 pm
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I'm on a C1000. I wanted to install this to the SD, but that didn't work, so then tried to internal memory.
I hightly doubt that you can install some 40M or 90M or whatever size it was in internal memory, unless you have nothing else installed.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 21, 2005, 08:36:23 pm
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Quote
I'm on a C1000. I wanted to install this to the SD, but that didn't work, so then tried to internal memory.
I hightly doubt that you can install some 40M or 90M or whatever size it was in internal memory, unless you have nothing else installed.
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I am attempting that option as we speak.

I spent the whole night installing and learning a few things about this software.  I started fresh and now am attempting to reinstall something that takes me around 24 hours to configure and then i will see if i can fit xqt into my main memory with all my softwares installed.I have 8 hours so far of installing software on my default zaurus---and a few more left to go.  After i am done installing as much as i can to the sd, i will see if i can squeeze xqt into main memory with a couple of softwares.  Then i will tell you if i can do it.  I dont know about the rest of you guys!  
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 21, 2005, 09:00:07 pm
After re-downloading debian file it installed OK and Debian/IceWM opens and looks great!

Thanks Meanie!

Meanwhile, I wanted to update Debian using apt-get...but have had problem so far...

First, I connected to internet using Qtopia/Network along with my Socket ethernet card.
Tested that I could get online by using NetFront browser. Can surf OK...

Second, in Debian/eterm window, did 'apt-get update'...got the following messages:

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#apt-get update
Err http://ftp.debian.org testing/Main Package
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org testing/Main Release
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org sarge/contrib Packages
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org sarge/contrib Releases
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Failed to fetch http:/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-arm/Packages.gz
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Yada Yada Yada....

SO my question is....Is this problem just related to something on the Debian servers or something with my setup??

Thanks for any help.

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 21, 2005, 09:53:37 pm
Quote
I'm trying to install this onto my poodle (5600), so I don't know if it's even possible. I've successfully installed & configred the package, but I get the following errors:

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[zaurus@grond]<~/Install_Files/watapon/xqt>$ sudo ipkg -d card install xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk
Unpacking xqt-gtk-jumbopack...Done.
Configuring xqt-gtk-jumbopack.../mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/
loading libraries ...
generating pango.modules ...
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/pango/pango.modules: directory non
generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders ...
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: direct
/mnt/card1/packages/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/mozhomefix: not found
X/Qt installed sucessfully.
Done.
After using ipkg-link successfully & restarting qtopia, I have the tab & all the icons, but nothing happens when I hit the startx icon, so I started some command line testing & edited the startx-wrapper, replacing the hdd3 references to point to the ext2 partition of my sd card (where the package is installed). It still failed after running the startx script.

So I edited the startx script to properly assign the hostname (the hostname command is linked to busybox in my rom which doesn't recognoze the '-f' switch). Finally it got the the end but failed finding librarys:

Code: [Select]
[...snip...]
+ xauth list :0
+ grep ':0 '
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ xauth
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ removelist=:0
+ xauth list grond:0
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ grep 'grond:0 '
+ xauth
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ removelist=grond:0 :0
+ xinit /home/zaurus/.xinitrc -- /home/zaurus/.xserverrc
xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ '[' 'xgrond:0 :0 ' '!=' x ']'
+ xauth remove grond:0 :0
xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXmuu.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
+ command -v deallocvt
+ deallocvt
I found a libXmuu.so.1.0 library linked under /opt/QtPalmtop/libs, so I linked that to ibXmuu.so.1, but still the same error. I'm not a unix programmer, so I'm not sure where xinit & xauth are looking for libs, but all the other *X* libs are in that same directory, so I can't be far off .

Any helpful tips? Am I just missing a package?
Thanks in advance
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Never had a poodle before so not sure how much different it is, but it seems like all the binaries installed successfully, however, the postinstall script failed due to things being in different locations.
you might need to edit the scripts and rerun them, in particular xqtliblinks which creates all the required symlinks

xqtliblinks assumes all the libraries have been installed to /opt/QtPalmtop/lib (which is a symlink itself on my Spitz)
 and creates additional symlinks for each of the installed libraries.
since i do not have ipkg-link i do not know exactly what it does, but i assume it relinks everything in /opt/QtPalmtop/lib to the location on your SD card?
if that's so then simply rerunning xqtliblinks might just fix it for you, but if not, then you might have to update xqtliblinks manually to make it link to the right location for your poodle.
good luck
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 21, 2005, 10:07:31 pm
Quote
After re-downloading debian file it installed OK and Debian/IceWM opens and looks great!

Thanks Meanie!

Meanwhile, I wanted to update Debian using apt-get...but have had problem so far...

First, I connected to internet using Qtopia/Network along with my Socket ethernet card.
Tested that I could get online by using NetFront browser. Can surf OK...

Second, in Debian/eterm window, did 'apt-get update'...got the following messages:

Code: [Select]
#apt-get update
Err http://ftp.debian.org testing/Main Package
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org testing/Main Release
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org sarge/contrib Packages
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.debian.org sarge/contrib Releases
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Failed to fetch http:/ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-arm/Packages.gz
Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.debian.org'
Yada Yada Yada....

SO my question is....Is this problem just related to something on the Debian servers or something with my setup??

Thanks for any help.

Mark
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It's resolv.conf that's causing you grief. Depending on your network settings, it might get updated each time you connect to the net. But Debian has a copy of resolv.conf at when you installed (I guess you weren't connected to the net at that point)
need to copy /etc/resolv.conf to .../debroot/etc/resolv.conf each time your network settings change

i'll look into binding that file so it just uses the same copy of resolv.conf
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 21, 2005, 11:07:37 pm
Thanks, Meanie. That makes sense...

However, just tried to copy file like you suggest and now keyboard is not working right all of a sudden...when I try to type in characters using the C3K keyboard nothing happens.... ....very strange!

Also, noticed that Perseus posted earlier today about keyboard issues too....

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark



Quote
It's resolv.conf that's causing you grief. Depending on your network settings, it might get updated each time you connect to the net. But Debian has a copy of resolv.conf at when you installed (I guess you weren't connected to the net at that point)
need to copy /etc/resolv.conf to .../debroot/etc/resolv.conf each time your network settings change

i'll look into binding that file so it just uses the same copy of resolv.conf
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 22, 2005, 08:06:21 am
My objective is to get Firefox and Thunderbird running on my C1000.

Sorry to be dumb with this but I have installed the X/Qt jumbo package to Internal Memory on my C1000. It appears as installed in Package Manager but there is no X/Qt tab.

I have tried rebooting but it makes no difference.

I have not installed any of the Debian packages.

Should I be doing something else?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 22, 2005, 08:42:12 am
Hi there,

I seem to have X/QT working fine on my C1000 despite the earlier hiccup. So am happy that I've gotten that far. Meanie's great site is C3000 centric and having a C1000 and an SD card, am not 100% sure what to change, this has always been the part of linux that scares me!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 22, 2005, 10:38:20 am
At least you have it working.

I got the error message “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.”

Did you install anything else apart from the X/Qt jumbo package, I wonder?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: matrix200 on July 22, 2005, 12:12:04 pm
Abiword not working on a C3000
I have installed everything and firefox is working fine (after running it as a root couple of times).
But I tried installing abiword.
There was a message complaining about missing dependencies.
When I launch it complains about missing libraries.
I installed the one from PDAXROM that is mentioned on
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html)
Any ideas how to fix?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 22, 2005, 01:34:29 pm
I got the same message too. It sure would be nice if the installer would tell you what those dependencies were, right?

I don't know if this is one of the dependencies for X/Qt jumbo, but one that I found for the Debian/Pocketworkstation install which I didn't have was the sudo package.

Quote
At least you have it working.

I got the error message “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.”

Did you install anything else apart from the X/Qt jumbo package, I wonder?
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: perseus on July 22, 2005, 02:26:58 pm
Archi Mark,

The keyboard not working is a result of pressing one of the shift keys (right I think) plus the / key. I tried every key plus the / key to get it working. And my keyboard stopped working. It came back on its own after a while and or a reboot.

However, the / key still does not work. All I get is the letter d when I type / key.

The wireless can be solved if you remove debian (per instructions by meanie on this thread) or doing option 3 then 1 in the ok menu. I had a similar problem. Reinstalled and the internet connection is working again.

Still having problems with the keyboard. Anyone have a solution?

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 22, 2005, 06:43:11 pm
Thanks for the info, Perseus!

Yes, same thing happened to me regarding the keys/keyboard issue...very strange...and like you I have not been able to figure out how to type a '/'...makes like difficult!

Must be a keymapping issue with that 'xmodmap' (or something like that...) file???

Like you would like to get the keyboard situation straightened out....

Will try what you say about the wireless situation...

Thanks,

Mark

Quote
Archi Mark,

The keyboard not working is a result of pressing one of the shift keys (right I think) plus the / key. I tried every key plus the / key to get it working. And my keyboard stopped working. It came back on its own after a while and or a reboot.

However, the / key still does not work. All I get is the letter d when I type / key.

The wireless can be solved if you remove debian (per instructions by meanie on this thread) or doing option 3 then 1 in the ok menu. I had a similar problem. Reinstalled and the internet connection is working again.

Still having problems with the keyboard. Anyone have a solution?

Thanks.
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 23, 2005, 06:38:51 am
I have tried to install this package several times now and the error messages alternate between “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”.

There is 17mb remaining in Internal Flash so that is ok.

I suspect the two error messages are somehow related, hopefully this can be easily rectified.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 23, 2005, 09:39:57 am
Quote
I have tried to install this package several times now and the error messages alternate between “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”.

There is 17mb remaining in Internal Flash so that is ok.

I suspect the two error messages are somehow related, hopefully this can be easily rectified.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89189\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I had a lot more internal flash space when I installed the X/QT package. I think I have 35mb of flash memory free and after installing it.

I just have no idea how to get anything else working on a C1000 with a 1gb sd card for storage, any and all help gratefully received.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 23, 2005, 10:00:16 am
Reinstalled Debian once again, but this time was connected to internet.

Now, apt-get works great!

Onward with other testing...

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 23, 2005, 01:54:31 pm
Hey there,

I put in an SD card in my C1000 and formatted it to ext2

created a debroot

I then changed the install script for debian to point to that as /mnt/card where ever it asked for /hdd3

Debian and pocket workstation and the swapfile all installed pretty much fine.

Yeay! I was thinking.

Hitting the pocket workstation icon first called up X/QT and the plain old xterm.

Then I thought maybe it needs root privileges. So I gave it those. Now it doesn't open at all, just hangs with the flared icon.

Guess I've done something very wrong :-(

Anyone able to hint/help?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundio on July 23, 2005, 02:17:25 pm
Hi just small suggestion
I was able to muddle Debian Jumbo Package installation :)

I'm not sure but maybe by insufficient memory on hdd3.
It has made loops as big as posible but not enaugh to make openoffice work properly.
Pocket Workstation seems to work fine.

Code: [Select]
#df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used       Available   Use%   Mounted on
/dev/loop0   285367     285366    0              100%   /hdd3/debroot
/dev/loop2   183264     183264    0              100%   /hdd3 /debroot /home /zaurus /OpenOffice.org1.1.4

(I didn't modified install script)

Do you have your loops in same size as me?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 23, 2005, 03:24:22 pm
Hi, I formatted the SD card again and tried again and this time ran the whole things again from the kterm on the C1000 rather than from within the x/qt

I was as su -

This is what the xlauncher debian said:

Code: [Select]
# xlauncher debian
enabling swap /mnt/card/swapfile
swapon: swapon: Device or resource busy
starting Debian...
-- Debian chroot is /mnt/card/debroot
-- SD card is mounted - enabling it for Debian
-- binding Documents directory for Debian
-- mounting proc for Debian
starting X for Debian - please wait a moment...

And then all that happens is that x/qt opens and that's it.

I would guess something isn't happy, but I don't know what.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: samxiao on July 23, 2005, 04:41:12 pm
where to download the jumbo package?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 23, 2005, 04:46:16 pm
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where to download the jumbo package?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89241\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you go to meanie's site, there is a link to the download place within the section that talks about installing the jumbo package.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 23, 2005, 05:39:31 pm
This is the link you need

http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/ (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 23, 2005, 11:05:25 pm
Quote
Hi, I formatted the SD card again and tried again and this time ran the whole things again from the kterm on the C1000 rather than from within the x/qt

I was as su -

This is what the xlauncher debian said:

Code: [Select]
# xlauncher debian
enabling swap /mnt/card/swapfile
swapon: swapon: Device or resource busy
starting Debian...
-- Debian chroot is /mnt/card/debroot
-- SD card is mounted - enabling it for Debian
-- binding Documents directory for Debian
-- mounting proc for Debian
starting X for Debian - please wait a moment...

And then all that happens is that x/qt opens and that's it.

I would guess something isn't happy, but I don't know what.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89232\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

did you use the latest install script? if not just get it and rerun it over your existing installation to upgrade.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 24, 2005, 08:11:37 am
I downloaded the lastest script and this is what was said in the xterm:

Code: [Select]
# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /mnt/card/debroot
/mnt/card/pocketworkstation created
/mnt/card/pocketworkstation mounted
Extracting Debian binaries. This will take a while ...
upgrading startd...
updating xterm wrapper
/bin/ln: `/home/root/.icewm': File exists
Extracting Debian documentation files
documentation extracted.
Debian files extracted.
Extracting OpenOffice binaries
OpenOffice files extracted.
preparing your network
Your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf under /mnt/card/debroot have been updated.
Please update them manually if your network settings or status changes.

Debian has been installed.
You can launch Debian from the Qt desktop via its icon or use:
xlauncher debian
 
# xlauncher debian
enabling swap /mnt/card/swapfile
swapon: swapon: Device or resource busy
starting Debian...
-- Debian chroot is /mnt/card/debroot
-- mounting Debian file image /mnt/card/pocketworkstation
-- SD card is mounted - enabling it for Debian
-- binding Documents directory for Debian
-- mounting proc for Debian
starting X for Debian - please wait a moment...            

And again all that happened was that X/QT opened, displayed the xterm and stopped there.

Not to muddy the waters too much, but is it possible that the problem lies with X/QT on my C1000? I installed it and the system hung and when I rebooted X/QT was there and opened so I assumed it installed fine.

Or maybe I've missed a configurational step.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 24, 2005, 05:20:00 pm
I seem to be making some progress now. I have also installed xqt-debian-scripts_0.4_arm.ipk and xqt-libXrender_1.2.2_arm.ipk in addition to xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk. The Tab X/Qt together with placeholder icons now appears and I have installed the packages firefox_0.9-2_arm.ipk and thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk.

All the packages have gone to Internal Storage and all give me the error messages “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”.  

Tapping the StartX icon does not seem to do very much and neither Firefox nor Thunderbird run, despite rebooting.

No matter, this is better than before and any input or suggestions would be very welcome.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 24, 2005, 10:25:03 pm
Quote
And again all that happened was that X/QT opened, displayed the xterm and stopped there.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89287\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I've located the problem on my 860.

I had the same behavior, basically XQt would start as if without the "debian" option.

The reason for me is these lines in .xinitrc:
Code: [Select]
# check debian location
if [ -f /etc/debroot ]; then
    DEBROOT=`cat /etc/debroot`
    if [ "$DEBROOT" != "" ] && [ -d $DEBROOT ]; then
        DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
    else
        DEBIAN=""
    fi
else
    DEBROOT=NODEBIAN
    DEBIAN=""
fi

Specifically the line:
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
Since I installed it to /mnt/card/debroot all goes well, however when you look at "mount | grep debroot" you'll see that in the running processes list the card is actually reffered to as /usr/mnt.rom/card and not /mnt/card

And that's the problem.

After I changed the line to
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep /usr/mnt.rom/card/debroot`
all's fine in my case...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 24, 2005, 11:40:52 pm
Quote
Hi just small suggestion
I was able to muddle Debian Jumbo Package installation

I'm not sure but maybe by insufficient memory on hdd3.
It has made loops as big as posible but not enaugh to make openoffice work properly.
Pocket Workstation seems to work fine.

Code: [Select]
#df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used       Available   Use%   Mounted on
/dev/loop0   285367     285366    0              100%   /hdd3/debroot
/dev/loop2   183264     183264    0              100%   /hdd3 /debroot /home /zaurus /OpenOffice.org1.1.4

(I didn't modified install script)

Do you have your loops in same size as me?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89224\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

not sure why you need to do this since the debian install script creates the necessary loop devices and filesystems for you.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 24, 2005, 11:43:50 pm
Quote
I downloaded the lastest script and this is what was said in the xterm:

Code: [Select]
# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /mnt/card/debroot
/mnt/card/pocketworkstation created
/mnt/card/pocketworkstation mounted
Extracting Debian binaries. This will take a while ...
upgrading startd...
updating xterm wrapper
/bin/ln: `/home/root/.icewm': File exists
Extracting Debian documentation files
documentation extracted.
Debian files extracted.
Extracting OpenOffice binaries
OpenOffice files extracted.
preparing your network
Your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf under /mnt/card/debroot have been updated.
Please update them manually if your network settings or status changes.

Debian has been installed.
You can launch Debian from the Qt desktop via its icon or use:
xlauncher debian
 
# xlauncher debian
enabling swap /mnt/card/swapfile
swapon: swapon: Device or resource busy
starting Debian...
-- Debian chroot is /mnt/card/debroot
-- mounting Debian file image /mnt/card/pocketworkstation
-- SD card is mounted - enabling it for Debian
-- binding Documents directory for Debian
-- mounting proc for Debian
starting X for Debian - please wait a moment...            

And again all that happened was that X/QT opened, displayed the xterm and stopped there.

Not to muddy the waters too much, but is it possible that the problem lies with X/QT on my C1000? I installed it and the system hung and when I rebooted X/QT was there and opened so I assumed it installed fine.

Or maybe I've missed a configurational step.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89287\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

the install only hangs if your Z goes into powersave/suspend mode because it takes quit a time (according to some 45 minutes) so it is most likely that your x/qt install never successfully installed so you most likely only have a partial install.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 24, 2005, 11:51:39 pm
Quote
I seem to be making some progress now. I have also installed xqt-debian-scripts_0.4_arm.ipk and xqt-libXrender_1.2.2_arm.ipk in addition to xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk. The Tab X/Qt together with placeholder icons now appears and I have installed the packages firefox_0.9-2_arm.ipk and thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk.

All the packages have gone to Internal Storage and all give me the error messages “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”. 

Tapping the StartX icon does not seem to do very much and neither Firefox nor Thunderbird run, despite rebooting.

No matter, this is better than before and any input or suggestions would be very welcome.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89348\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Those packages (xqt-debian-scripts and xqt-libXrender) are included with the jumbo package alrready which means your installation was not completed successful and lots of files are still missing.  Check that you have enough space for all the files and try reinstalling.  Firefox and Thunderbird are not installed by default with the jumbo package. The jumbo merely enables them to be installed without problems and add the icons for you because those packages do not come with their own Qt desktop icons. Look at the taskbar. It will tell you that they are not installed yet until you actually install them. Same is true for all the other icons.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on July 24, 2005, 11:59:59 pm
Quote
Quote
And again all that happened was that X/QT opened, displayed the xterm and stopped there.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89287\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I've located the problem on my 860.

I had the same behavior, basically XQt would start as if without the "debian" option.

The reason for me is these lines in .xinitrc:
Code: [Select]
# check debian location
if [ -f /etc/debroot ]; then
    DEBROOT=`cat /etc/debroot`
    if [ "$DEBROOT" != "" ] && [ -d $DEBROOT ]; then
        DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
    else
        DEBIAN=""
    fi
else
    DEBROOT=NODEBIAN
    DEBIAN=""
fi

Specifically the line:
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
Since I installed it to /mnt/card/debroot all goes well, however when you look at "mount | grep debroot" you'll see that in the running processes list the card is actually reffered to as /usr/mnt.rom/card and not /mnt/card

And that's the problem.

After I changed the line to
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep /usr/mnt.rom/card/debroot`
all's fine in my case...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89370\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I've noticed that too and fixed it already and I will upload the fix tonite when I get home.

What you want to do is:

install xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.ipk after installing the xqt-gtk-jumbo package.  Note the 0.5 version. This version has fixes to the version that comes with the jumbo pack which is 0.4.

use the latest version of the debian install script (currently 0.3.6 is the latest) if you have already installed debian, you can simply rerun the newer version of the install script without removing your existing installation. it will perform an update/upgrade of the config files.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 25, 2005, 05:33:16 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
And again all that happened was that X/QT opened, displayed the xterm and stopped there.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89287\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I've located the problem on my 860.

I had the same behavior, basically XQt would start as if without the "debian" option.

The reason for me is these lines in .xinitrc:
Code: [Select]
# check debian location
if [ -f /etc/debroot ]; then
 Â   DEBROOT=`cat /etc/debroot`
 Â   if [ "$DEBROOT" != "" ] && [ -d $DEBROOT ]; then
 Â       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
 Â   else
 Â       DEBIAN=""
 Â   fi
else
 Â   DEBROOT=NODEBIAN
 Â   DEBIAN=""
fi

Specifically the line:
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep $DEBROOT`
Since I installed it to /mnt/card/debroot all goes well, however when you look at "mount | grep debroot" you'll see that in the running processes list the card is actually reffered to as /usr/mnt.rom/card and not /mnt/card

And that's the problem.

After I changed the line to
Code: [Select]
       DEBIAN=`mount|grep proc|grep /usr/mnt.rom/card/debroot`
all's fine in my case...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89370\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I've noticed that too and fixed it already and I will upload the fix tonite when I get home.

What you want to do is:

install xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.ipk after installing the xqt-gtk-jumbo package.  Note the 0.5 version. This version has fixes to the version that comes with the jumbo pack which is 0.4.

use the latest version of the debian install script (currently 0.3.6 is the latest) if you have already installed debian, you can simply rerun the newer version of the install script without removing your existing installation. it will perform an update/upgrade of the config files.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89377\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'm probably being a Linux incompetent, however I've found three xinitrc files in

/etc/X11/xinit/
/home/etc/X11/xinit/
/mnt/card/debroot/etc/X11/xinit/

I've opened each of these and can't see any of the code above. Am I looking in the wrong place?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 25, 2005, 05:52:45 am
Quote
I'm probably being a Linux incompetent, however I've found three xinitrc files in

/etc/X11/xinit/
/home/etc/X11/xinit/
/mnt/card/debroot/etc/X11/xinit/

I've opened each of these and can't see any of the code above. Am I looking in the wrong place?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89401\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
It's /home/zaurus/.xinitrc
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 25, 2005, 05:55:20 am
xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.ipk

This isn't on the chuckster website, do you know where I find this please?

Thanks!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 25, 2005, 07:08:02 am
omro

try here
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/ (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 25, 2005, 07:08:49 am
Quote
Quote
I'm probably being a Linux incompetent, however I've found three xinitrc files in

/etc/X11/xinit/
/home/etc/X11/xinit/
/mnt/card/debroot/etc/X11/xinit/

I've opened each of these and can't see any of the code above. Am I looking in the wrong place?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89401\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
It's /home/zaurus/.xinitrc
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89405\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Found that, made the edit
typed xlauncher debian
XQT opened and then seemed to think about it and then just closed. Guess I did it wrong :-(
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 25, 2005, 08:08:21 am
I have installed the XQt jumbo pack about 10 times now using Package Installer and constantly get the same error messages.

It is possible that installing from Terminal might work; could someone give me the full command line to use, please?

The one I have is wrong.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 25, 2005, 06:04:45 pm
icewm doesnt come up when I tap on the debian icon? Looks like the regular X window manager.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 05:29:06 am
Hello there,

If anyone has gotten all this to work on a C1000, please PM me I'd love to know how you did it. I really want to get debian/open office to work and so far I'm just failing :-(

Thanks!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 26, 2005, 05:43:05 am
Better still, post it here, I want to know too.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 06:05:36 am
Quote
Better still, post it here, I want to know too.

I thought people already had gotten it working on a C1000 and I was just being fick :-(

Meanie's site is great and his efforts are so much appreciated, but if someone has the time to write an idiots guide for total idiots, i.e. step 1 download this, step 2 install this that way, step 3 wait for 45 mins, step 4 reboot, etc, I would be gateful.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 26, 2005, 10:37:47 am
My problem is so basic, every package I try to install be it XQtJumbo,  Firefox or Thunderbird I get the “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”.

I would like to try manual install but need the path to install to. Can anyone help?

Imro

Congrats on your success. Maybe now you are the one to write the idiots guide.

BTW how big is your SD card?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 10:52:09 am
Quote
My problem is so basic, every package I try to install be it XQtJumbo,  Firefox or Thunderbird I get the “This package seems to depend on other packages. Please install them too.” and “The extract of some files are failed. The application may not execute normally. When you cannot operate the application please remove it”.

I would like to try manual install but need the path to install to. Can anyone help?

Imro

Congrats on your success. Maybe now you are the one to write the idiots guide.

BTW how big is your SD card?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89597\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

When I get home, I'll review what I did and write it up, certainly. I'm still in a bit of a daze. Definitely look at the other thread, downloading those files from Meanie's site, the correct scripts, seems to be vital, the links are at the bottom of the XQT Jumbo page. That other thread was a lifesaver :-)

When I installed X/QT Jumbo I got the "This package depends on other packages" message. I just ignored it since X/QT still booted, so I thought, well it can't depend on this too much.....

I've got a 1gb corsair 40x SD card which I formatted to ext2

Owen
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on July 26, 2005, 03:12:49 pm
Thanks for the excellent guide to setting up Openoffice/Debian on the other thread.  My C1000 has tied itself into a knot and so it will be a day or so before I can try out your procedures.

Rather than distract that particular thread I thought it best to ask here, have you installed Firefox and Thunderbird yet? Do you know where to find Meanie’s build of thunderbird_0.6-1_arm.ipk?

I seem to be alone with the error “The extract of some files are failed.” So I have to assume that my device is at fault.

Again congratulations on your result, I know I shall get there eventually.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 03:17:17 pm
Hey there, I truly hope that works for people!!

I've no need to try thunderbird so no haven't tried that and probably won't. Sorry.

Firefox is in with debian, so I discovered, but I've not tried to install it just for xqt.

Sorry to hear about your Z being in a mess, I take regular NANDs of mine
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 26, 2005, 04:42:54 pm
problems:

I installed everything according to meanie site but I get

when I type "xlauncher debian"

error: please su with -

whatsup? no debian only x/qt

help
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 04:46:35 pm
just type

Code: [Select]
su -
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: sojc on July 26, 2005, 05:17:36 pm
 oops, got it


ty
sojc


Quote
just type

Code: [Select]
su -[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89645\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 26, 2005, 07:46:18 pm
It's there now. Sorry I couldn't get it uploaded sooner.

Quote
xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.ipk

This isn't on the chuckster website, do you know where I find this please?

Thanks!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89406\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 26, 2005, 07:52:02 pm
Quote
It's there now. Sorry I couldn't get it uploaded sooner.

Quote
xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.ipk

This isn't on the chuckster website, do you know where I find this please?

Thanks!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89406\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=89667\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

It's on Meanie's site, if you check my post, the link is there
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 30, 2005, 04:55:02 pm
yeah i spent like 4 hours trying to find the link for this file xqt-debian-install.zip

chuksters site needs it badly and also, his downloads speed and continuity is terrible..


sorry chuckster  

that debian install file was either lost from my view or i was too pissed trying to find it.

meanie, let chuckster know that his file is missing.

direct link to the file


http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/xqt-debian-install.zip (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/xqt-debian-install.zip)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 30, 2005, 06:55:10 pm
I've replaced the link to that file on my site. The file was still there, but I had removed the link thinking that Meanie's updated file: xqt-debian-scripts_0.5_arm.zip had replaced it. Anyway, both files are there now. Hopefully Meanie can clarify whether both are needed.

No need to apologize about the site. I find it interesting though. I just downloaded the openoffice file to test my connectivity and averaged over 150kb/s speed. I didn't think that was too bad...

Quote
yeah i spent like 4 hours trying to find the link for this file xqt-debian-install.zip

chuksters site needs it badly and also, his downloads speed and continuity is terrible..


sorry chuckster   

that debian install file was either lost from my view or i was too pissed trying to find it.

meanie, let chuckster know that his file is missing.

direct link to the file


http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/xqt-debian-install.zip (http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/xqt-debian-install.zip)
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: omro on July 30, 2005, 07:00:27 pm
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I just downloaded the openoffice file to test my connectivity and averaged over 150kb/s speed. I didn't think that was too bad...

Perhaps if you are using the same ISP to connect to the internet, as the one that hosts your file, you'll achieve a faster and more consistent download rate than someone outside that system?

I remember having major issues downloading from your site, I'm afraid. Am glad the files are there though, much appreciated.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 30, 2005, 07:10:39 pm
thanks

can i install these files on vfat?  i dont want to try ext.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rickh on July 30, 2005, 07:32:39 pm
Unrelated, sort of, but...

Has anybody else run into a problem with space when installing Fireox?  The first time I installed, I got the dreaded "HDD1 error!!" and had to restore from NAND/my own backup combination.  Not terribly difficult, but frustrating.  There was 0 space available on /dev/mtdblock3 (mounted as home).

The second time I installed Firefox space went to 99% full (48K free)!  Uninstalling doesn't free up the space either.  I can't even see what would be taking up the extra space.  Nothing obvious, anyway.

One other thing, that may have already been mentioned:  During Firefox's install of the ipkg, it comes back with a warning that /hdd3/zaurushome doesn't exist (of course, it's not a standard location).  Then states that directory linking has completed.  Is there something in the install script that links something in the /dev/mtdblock3 partition to /hdd3/zaurushome and perhaps doesn't clean itself up on uninstall?

R.
==

** EDIT **

Turns out /home/zaurus/.mozilla/firefox isn't removed on unistall.  That directory alone takes up about 800K.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 30, 2005, 10:47:22 pm
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chuckster on July 31, 2005, 01:49:48 am
Nope. Not even close. I'm using Cox cable as my local ISP. I actually have no friggin' idea where my website is hosted (I suppose I should look it up), but I know it's at least 15 hops across 3 or 4 nets to get to it. Definitely not the same ISP though. FWIW, I also did a speed test from my work machine on a totally different net and also had success...

Quote
Quote
I just downloaded the openoffice file to test my connectivity and averaged over 150kb/s speed. I didn't think that was too bad...

Perhaps if you are using the same ISP to connect to the internet, as the one that hosts your file, you'll achieve a faster and more consistent download rate than someone outside that system?

I remember having major issues downloading from your site, I'm afraid. Am glad the files are there though, much appreciated.
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on July 31, 2005, 02:21:01 am
i spent a bit of time today trying debian on the x env but i couldnt get it to work on vfat.  I need vfat so i can swap files from my pc to my zaurus.

Reason i dont totally go with mandrake or debian 100percent is because i need to run a windows os for school....this blows totally!!

MAN!

also, it could be that my files could of been corrupt since i redownloaded each of the big files like 5 times each.

Im gona wait for debian and x environment.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on July 31, 2005, 12:58:21 pm
Hi Meanie,

I have installed X/QT Jumbo now on my C3000 with Cacko ROM 1.23beta1.
THank you for your hard work! Ths jumbo package makes installation so much smoother! I will try the X application packages later. In case you plan to improve the package, here are some notes:

* Using the GUI installer (Setting / Add/Remove Software), the Zaurus had some problems. After about 15min of installing, the clock stopped counting the minutes. I waited for another hour in case it takes really that long and stops the entire device, but to no avail. I rebooted. After the reboot, X/QT was there and StartX worked. But I didn't trust that interrupted installation and reinstalled. See later.
It may be that following events have disturbed the installation process: 1. I plugged in the AC adapter during the installation, 2. I have overclocked the CPU to make installation faster and 3. I ejected the WLAN card during the install.

* After the reboot I used the command line ipkg install xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm_ikp to reintall the entire thing. That time it worked well. I dont know how fast, as I left the Zaurus unattended for an hour.
But I recommend to use the command line for such large packages! At least if something fails, you will probably see an error message.

* The command line installer gave an error "mkdir: Cannot create directory /hdd3/zaurushome/.mozilla: No such file or directory".
Sure, because I don't have a /hdd3/zaurushome, as some people seem to have. So after installation it will be necessary to
mkdir /hdd3/zaurushome
mkdir /hdd3/zaurushome/.mozilla
ln -s /hdd3/zaurushome/.mozilla /home/zaurus
right?

I have done so in the hope that Mozilla will work correctly.


Now I'll try XQT and install some apps...

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on July 31, 2005, 04:10:15 pm
Hi Meanie,

The thunderbird.postinst script contains a colon instead of a semicolon in line 2!

And: the xqt-debian-install.sh script creates a swap file, no matter if there is already a swap file or not. So I ended up with two swapfiles now, and have to delete and disable one manually now.

And: It seems an error occurred during download of the debian jumbo package, because the untarring of the tar.gz fails.
It might be easy to implement a consistency check either via md5sum check in the script or via a
zcat FILE | tar tvf -
and subsequent check of the return code.

...now trying to re-download the debian jumbo...

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on July 31, 2005, 04:22:08 pm
Can someone please advise....

Have downloaded files from Chuckster's webpage.

All of the files, except for 2,  check out OK with MD5Sum.

I've downloaded the' jumbopack' and 'openoffice' files about 10 times now.

Each time the MD5Sum is different than what is listed...  

Any suggestions??

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on July 31, 2005, 04:33:32 pm
Hi Meanie,

got problems with thunderbird and firefox.

firefox:
"Gdk-WARNING ** locale not suported by C library"

thunderbird:
"/opt/QtPalmtop/share/thunderbird0.6/thunderbird-bin: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version "GCC_3.3" not found (required by /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libstdc++.so.5)"

Both programs do not start.

X itself does start nicely.

Any ideas?

Thank you
daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on July 31, 2005, 05:22:40 pm
...and anotherone:

qpe-gaim is missing all its icons (tool icons and buddy status icons) after installation of X/QT. What could have happened?

The libpng fix mentioned on the qpe-gaim sourceforge page does not help here, although I get many errors on the console re. an incompatible libpng version (1.0.9 compiled for vs. 1.2.4 running).

Reinstalling all gaim IPKs does not help either.

What does X/QT (or firefox / thinderbird, which I also have installed already) have to do with that?

THanks

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: darkloran on August 01, 2005, 04:53:57 am
exactly the same for me !

Loran

Quote
Hi Meanie,

got problems with thunderbird and firefox.

firefox:
"Gdk-WARNING ** locale not suported by C library"

thunderbird:
"/opt/QtPalmtop/share/thunderbird0.6/thunderbird-bin: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version "GCC_3.3" not found (required by /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libstdc++.so.5)"

Both programs do not start.

X itself does start nicely.

Any ideas?

Thank you
daniel
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: samxiao on August 01, 2005, 10:34:01 am
do you guys know how to create those icon under Qtopia so i can launch X apps under Qtopia ?

i saw there're few firefox run script , but i can't launch it
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on August 03, 2005, 09:19:01 am
Okay guys, after many of you have encountered problems downloading from chuckster's site, I have set up a mirror.

I am also only on a DSL line with slow upstream (I think 128kbps), but at least I have never had any complaints about corrupted or truncated download from my web site.

So, the X/QT and Debian Pocket Workstation files are now also available under

http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus (http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus)

I will leave the files there for as long as it doesn't cause me any problems (bandwidth overload, file corruption as on chuckster's site etc.).

Meanie, Chuckster, thanks for all your good work!
I'll be happy to update the files on my site if there are new versions. Please drop me a PM then, as I don't follow this thread daily.

I had problems however with the firefox file. I have downloaded it at least ten times from chuckster and had always the same md5sum, which differed from chuckster's one.
I have installed firefox myself from that file and as root I can start it now. But I HAVE problems with my firefox installation (reported earlier in this thread). So it could be that my file is really corrupt.

It would be great if someone could definitely advise if my file is corrupt or not, and if it is, provide the correct file!

Thanks

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on August 05, 2005, 09:39:43 am
A few questions please about JumboXQt/Debian....

Have it installed and it appears to be working OK....however....

1) When I click on Debian icon to start it, I get 'fatal error' message
   -But I can launch Debian from Konsole, 'xlauncher debian' with 'su -'

  Why 'fatal error' message and what to do about it?

2) When I first opened Debian, I got iceWM bar at top of screen and that nice Debian background image on display and a transparent 'x-term' window.

Now each time I open up Debian I get a plain blue background and bar is at bottom of screen and the 'x-term' window that opens at same time has a different background image than the time Debian opened before.

   Why has this background image and bar location changed?

3) As noted previously by Perseus and myself, you can't type a '/'. This makes it extremely difficult to navigate to different directories or use firefox, etc.

  How to fix keyboard mapping issues?

Other than the above issues, Debian works great...and thanks again to Meanie for these packages and Chuckster for hosting them!

Thanks for any and all help!

Mark
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on August 08, 2005, 08:39:19 am
Hello Meanie,

one problem with the Debian install script:

it does a
ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop /etc/rc5.d/S50mnt
and a
ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop /etc/rc6.d/K50mnt

both failm because /etc/rc?.d do not exist here (Cacko 1.23beta1 on SL-C3000).

I had to do manually after install:

ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S50mnt
ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K50mnt

Just FYI and for all who plan to install the package on a similar system as mine.

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: pelon on August 12, 2005, 08:15:42 pm
I too am getting a 'd' when I hit the '/' key.

xev says that both the 'd' key and the '/' key are returning keycode 47.
setxkbmap says that xkb is not an extension of the current display (ie not loaded with X)

I am running the loopback version of Debian.
I am also using Meanie's keyhelper.xml from his myZaurus site.

When I disable keyhelper, the '/' key works properly in debian.

I can easily add an icon that starts and stops keyhelper, or just remove the '/' ',' switch. But there must be a way for the two to live in harmony. Any Ideas?

If there is no xkb extension (I don't know how X could live without it), how can we reassign keys under pocketworkstation?
 

BTW: Meanie is a god!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: pelon on August 13, 2005, 07:47:05 am
xlauncher tries to bind /mnt/cf to $DEBROOT/mnt/cf by first looking to see if hdc1 is mounted. My memory betrays me as to why, but some of us mount our CF cards on hda1  (it made for many headaches early on).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 24, 2005, 07:44:08 am
Hallo,

i have the following problem, when installing xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm on my c3100. after installing a message appears saying that some files couldnt be installed and then comes a message which says that i should deinstall the app if it doesnt work. after reboot also no XQt tab appears. i have downloaded the file about 10 times now... but it doesnt work. i am also not able to download zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz because it says after a time that the download is finished but the file had sometimes 17MB and sometime 89 MB... but it should have 94MB. i checked the checksum of the xqt-gtk-jumopack and it is alright... so the file is alright. i read that there is also a possibility to install the package via the console... what command is it?

what should i do? pls help.

Cheers,
MONVMENTVM
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on August 24, 2005, 08:17:41 am
Quote
Hallo,

i have the following problem, when installing xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm. after installing a message appears saying that some files couldnt be installed and then comes a message which says that i should deinstall the app if it doesnt work. after reboot also no XQt tab appears. i have downloaded the file about 10 times now... but it doesnt work. i am also not able to download zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz because it says after a time that the download is finished but the file had sometimes 17MB and sometime 89 MB... but it should have 94MB.

what should i do? pls help.

Cheers,
MONVMENTVM
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Have you tried downloading from my site or from Chuckster's?
If from chuckster's please try mine: [a href=\"http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus]http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus[/url]
If from mine, thanks for the problem report. Then we know my site is also not reliable for large file download! :-)

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 24, 2005, 08:29:40 am
Quote
Quote
Hallo,

i have the following problem, when installing xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm. after installing a message appears saying that some files couldnt be installed and then comes a message which says that i should deinstall the app if it doesnt work. after reboot also no XQt tab appears. i have downloaded the file about 10 times now... but it doesnt work. i am also not able to download zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz because it says after a time that the download is finished but the file had sometimes 17MB and sometime 89 MB... but it should have 94MB.

what should i do? pls help.

Cheers,
MONVMENTVM
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Have you tried downloading from my site or from Chuckster's?
If from chuckster's please try mine: [a href=\"http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus]http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus[/url]
If from mine, thanks for the problem report. Then we know my site is also not reliable for large file download! :-)

daniel
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oh... just now i edited my previous post. i downloaded from both pages... i checked all file's checksum. nearly all files are ok on both pages... but zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz is not ok. i downloaded it about 5 times on every page... but it stops @ 89MB or 17MB instead of downloading the whole 94MB.

anyway, like i edited in my last post the xqt-gtk-jumbopack i downloaded is ok (checked the checksum) but i am not able to install... about 5 mins after i install it, a message appears saying that some files couldnt install... after reboot no Xqt tab appears. i uninstalled it again and need to know the right command for installing it from the console, pls.

daniel, your name sounds as if you would be a german (and .de of your page tells it also). i am from austria... so would it be possible to pm me in german? i think it would be easier for both of us . thanks in advance!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 24, 2005, 08:49:42 am
ok got it.... just "ipkg install" and then the file.

i am trying to install it now... i'll report if it worked or not. now console says "Unpacking xqt-gtk-jumbopack..." which sounds good.

edit: now its "Configuring xqt-gtk-jumbopack..." and it sounds even better

edit: (not so nice):

tar: ./opt/QtPalmtop/lib/X11/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraBd.ttf: input/output error -- No space left on device
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Bad tar header, skipping
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
//usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/xqtliblinks: not found
loading libraries ...
generating pango.modules ...
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/pango-querymodules: error while loading shared libraries: libpangox-1.0.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders ...
/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: cannot  load shared object file: No such file or directory
//usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/mozhomefix: not found
X/Qt installed sucessfully.
Done.

after reboot the icons still didnt appear. so am i low of space? the installation again took about 5 mins.  does the package not install onto the microdrive of the c3100? there would be enough space... and it would be the place i would like it to be installed. but what should i do?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 02:42:43 am
Ok... i was able to install xqt now and it runs nice.

now i am still trying to download the xqt-debian package which is the only one that i dont have until now (but i downloaded it about 10 times now... everytime it stopped before the download was complete and the package was corrupted). i am downloading now once again at the same time 1 package from chuckster's page and one from Daniel's.

hope it'll work.

Edit: The download from chuckster's page stopped again (at 42MB). but the interesting thing is that my browser still tries to download (but about 2 min ago nothing happened anymore)... maybe in few minutes i will get a pop-up saying that the timelimit was reached and the download breaks down.

The download from Daniel's page is at 32MB right now and is still downloading.... hope that this time it works... i need debian  
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Ping on August 25, 2005, 03:21:20 am
Use wget -c
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 04:30:38 am
Quote
Use wget -c
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thank you for the tip... the download from Daniel's page stopped now at 93MB (of 94,5MB). now i started wget -c and the file is downloading now again (and has already 94MB... so almost full).

thanks again.

Edit: i checked the checksum now and it is not ok... anyway i will try to install debian now...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on August 25, 2005, 04:49:00 am
i dont know what it is but i never managed to get those working on my c1000.

few of my problems is space and formating my sd which i can't do right now.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 05:06:52 am
i tried installing but as i thought the debian package is corrupted... the installation started properly but some time after echoing "extracting debian binaries" an error appeared, telling that invalid compressed data--format violated
tar:unexpected EOF in archive
Tar: error exit delayed from previos errors
error: debian extract failed.

please help me... i need a working zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz. i downloaded it about 15 times now (from chucksters page and from daniel's).... but no one was ok.

pls help
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on August 25, 2005, 06:58:42 am
Quote
i tried installing but as i thought the debian package is corrupted... the installation started properly but some time after echoing "extracting debian binaries" an error appeared, telling that invalid compressed data--format violated
tar:unexpected EOF in archive
Tar: error exit delayed from previos errors
error: debian extract failed.

please help me... i need a working zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz. i downloaded it about 15 times now (from chucksters page and from daniel's).... but no one was ok.

pls help
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If you are really stuck with getting that file, then you could try using the original debian tarball
(zaurus-debian-big-v0.18.tgz). My install script can use this file as well, but you will not get my customisations though (which is mainly firefox, thunderbird, eterm, winxp theme and openoffice). You can install those applications manually yourself using apt-get. The only thing you won't get will be my custom winxp theme
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 07:01:01 am
Quote
2) When I first opened Debian, I got iceWM bar at top of screen and that nice Debian background image on display and a transparent 'x-term' window.

Now each time I open up Debian I get a plain blue background and bar is at bottom of screen and the 'x-term' window that opens at same time has a different background image than the time Debian opened before.

   Why has this background image and bar location changed?

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i managed to download now a working package and debian installation worked great and fast (about 10minutes). but as archimark said before i have the same problem with the debian backround and the iceWM bar. i have a plain blue background and the iceWM bar is at the bottom of the screen.

how to fix that?

Edit: and another thing: i can start debian just from the console... the icon doesnt work for me.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on August 25, 2005, 07:10:44 am
Quote
Quote
2) When I first opened Debian, I got iceWM bar at top of screen and that nice Debian background image on display and a transparent 'x-term' window.

Now each time I open up Debian I get a plain blue background and bar is at bottom of screen and the 'x-term' window that opens at same time has a different background image than the time Debian opened before.

   Why has this background image and bar location changed?

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i managed to download now a working package and debian installation worked great and fast (about 10minutes). but as archimark said before i have the same problem with the debian backround and the iceWM bar. i have a plain blue background and the iceWM bar is at the bottom of the screen.

how to fix that?

Edit: and another thing: i can start debian just from the console... the icon doesnt work for me.
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what user do you use to start pocketworkstation?
what does ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus and ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/root show?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 07:22:24 am
ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/root shows:
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root      qpe     7  Aug 25 12:32  /hdd3/debroot/home/root -> ../root

ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus shows a lot more:
the rights      the user    qpe    numbers  Date   .
                                                                     ..
                                                                     .Xdefaults
                                                                     .bash_history
                                                                     .fonts.cache-1
                                                                     .icewm
                                                                     .mailcap
                                                                     .mime.types
                                                                     .openoffice
                                                                     .sversionrc
                                                                     Documents
                                                                     OpenOffice.org1.1.4

do you need to know the rights and the other details also?

because i cannot run debian from the icon i run it from console using su - before. so from console i am starting as root.

i also tested to change the theme in debian but after some seconds of loading, again the same theme remains and nothing changes... i have also tested your winxp theme but it doesnt work for me.

Edit: i just had to start from the console as Zaurus... no it works.

anyway the icon still doesnt work.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on August 25, 2005, 07:34:31 am
Quote
ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/root shows:
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root      qpe     7  Aug 25 12:32  /hdd3/debroot/home/root -> ../root

ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus shows a lot more:
the rights      the user    qpe    numbers  Date   .
                                                                     ..
                                                                     .Xdefaults
                                                                     .bash_history
                                                                     .fonts.cache-1
                                                                     .icewm
                                                                     .mailcap
                                                                     .mime.types
                                                                     .openoffice
                                                                     .sversionrc
                                                                     Documents
                                                                     OpenOffice.org1.1.4

do you need to know the rights and the other details also?

because i cannot run debian from the icon i run it from console using su - before. so from console i am starting as root.

i also tested to change the theme in debian but after some seconds of loading, again the same theme remains and nothing changes... i have also tested your winxp theme but it doesnt work for me.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=93202\")

seems like /home/root needs some fixing

do the following:

su
cd /hdd3/debroot/home
rm -r root
ln -s ../root root
cd root
ln -s ../zaurus/.icewm .icewm

or try downloading [a href=\"http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqt-debian-install.zip]http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jum...ian-install.zip[/url] and rerun the install script over your existing installation


btw, if you install sudo and set the NOPASSWD for zaurus user, then you can launch from the qt menu.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 25, 2005, 08:17:11 am
hmmm... and which command do i have to type? i am not really familiar with sudo.

thanks in advance.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: icruise on August 25, 2005, 10:51:10 am
I tried installing the jumbo xqt package on my 3100. The package itself installed fine, and I've been able to get firefox working with a little fiddling (starting it as root, etc). But I notice that the Firefox icon under the X/QT tab doesn't work. It says "Firefox not installed" when I try to run it from there. However, there is a Firefox icon under Applications that works fine.

Also, Japanese web sites do not display correctly. The Japanese characters appear, but it seems like every other one is wrong. Naturally this makes them appear as gibberish. Any idea why this might be?

I can't get Thunderbird to install, though. I get an error to the effect that the install of the ipk failed.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on August 26, 2005, 01:45:22 am
Quote
I tried installing the jumbo xqt package on my 3100. The package itself installed fine, and I've been able to get firefox working with a little fiddling (starting it as root, etc). But I notice that the Firefox icon under the X/QT tab doesn't work. It says "Firefox not installed" when I try to run it from there. However, there is a Firefox icon under Applications that works fine.

Also, Japanese web sites do not display correctly. The Japanese characters appear, but it seems like every other one is wrong. Naturally this makes them appear as gibberish. Any idea why this might be?

I can't get Thunderbird to install, though. I get an error to the effect that the install of the ipk failed.
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There are two firefox packages that work. Use whichever icon work for you and simply remove the one that doesn't work.

The Japanese web sites need to identify themselves with a meta tag that specifies which of the various encodings it is using. Try switching between shift_JIS and EUC-JP.

Try using thunderbird_0.6-2_arm.ipk. Hopefully this packages works.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: icruise on August 26, 2005, 01:55:19 am
Quote
The Japanese web sites need to identify themselves with a meta tag that specifies which of the various encodings it is using. Try switching between shift_JIS and EUC-JP.
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I don't think it's an encoding issue per se (and yes, I did try various encodings to be sure). I've never seen anything like this on any other system. The Japanese is *partially* readable (it's obvious that some of the right characters are being displayed, so it's not complete gibberish like it would be if the wrong encoding was selected). I already restored from a backup (I was just testing it out) or I'd post a screenshot.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: MONVMENTVM on August 26, 2005, 02:45:16 am
Quote
Quote
ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/root shows:
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root      qpe     7  Aug 25 12:32  /hdd3/debroot/home/root -> ../root

ls -la /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus shows a lot more:
the rights      the user    qpe    numbers  Date   .
                                                                     ..
                                                                     .Xdefaults
                                                                     .bash_history
                                                                     .fonts.cache-1
                                                                     .icewm
                                                                     .mailcap
                                                                     .mime.types
                                                                     .openoffice
                                                                     .sversionrc
                                                                     Documents
                                                                     OpenOffice.org1.1.4

do you need to know the rights and the other details also?

because i cannot run debian from the icon i run it from console using su - before. so from console i am starting as root.

i also tested to change the theme in debian but after some seconds of loading, again the same theme remains and nothing changes... i have also tested your winxp theme but it doesnt work for me.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=93202\")

seems like /home/root needs some fixing

do the following:

su
cd /hdd3/debroot/home
rm -r root
ln -s ../root root
cd root
ln -s ../zaurus/.icewm .icewm

or try downloading [a href=\"http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqt-debian-install.zip]http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jum...ian-install.zip[/url] and rerun the install script over your existing installation


btw, if you install sudo and set the NOPASSWD for zaurus user, then you can launch from the qt menu.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=93203\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


i tried now to install the new script but when i type ./xqt-debian-install.sh /hdd3/debroot i get an error saying: ./xqt-debian-install.sh: not found

before that i made the following steps:
su
cd /hdd3/debroot    (where xqt-debian-install.sh is located)
./xqt-debian-install.sh /hdd3/debroot

and then i get this error.

when i installed debian with the old script i did it the same way... and it worked... but i cannot imagine why it says: not found

EDIT: ok... there was a second xqt-debian-install.sh. this made the trouble
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on August 27, 2005, 07:58:43 am
Could someone give me a link, please, to thunderbird_0.6-2_arm.ipk?

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: samxiao on August 28, 2005, 11:21:02 am
Quote
Could someone give me a link, please, to thunderbird_0.6-2_arm.ipk?

Thanks.
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try this:
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# apt-get install thunderbird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: icruise on August 28, 2005, 11:45:16 am
Quote
Could someone give me a link, please, to thunderbird_0.6-2_arm.ipk?

Thanks.
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I second that. Where can I download it?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: xfaethorx on August 28, 2005, 01:53:10 pm
yep me three i've tried 3 different ipks on my C3100 and not one has worked . However that one is built into the debian jumbo and does work (under debian which isn't what i want ). Anyroad anyone know where to get it form! ?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on August 28, 2005, 02:24:06 pm
Quote
yep me three i've tried 3 different ipks on my C3100 and not one has worked . However that one is built into the debian jumbo and does work (under debian which isn't what i want ). Anyroad anyone know where to get it form! ?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=93525\")


Do you mean this?

[a href=\"http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed/thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed/thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: xfaethorx on August 28, 2005, 03:06:04 pm
Quote
Quote
yep me three i've tried 3 different ipks on my C3100 and not one has worked . However that one is built into the debian jumbo and does work (under debian which isn't what i want ). Anyroad anyone know where to get it form! ?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=93525\")


Do you mean this?

[a href=\"http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed/thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed/thunderbird_0.6_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=93527\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

already tried that one and it didn't work  the only way thunderbird works for me currently is under debian which means its slower than running under X/QT busybox.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: icruise on August 30, 2005, 01:05:19 pm
I did some more experimenting with this and found out the cause of the Japanese display problems I mentioned. Apparently it's a font size issue. I don't know why, but if I increase the font size by a couple of ticks all of the Japanese text displays fine. If I use a smaller setting, it basically leaves some characters out, making it impossible to read (like if every other letter was left out of English words). Strange.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on September 08, 2005, 06:56:39 am
I've updated the jumbo pack - xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk which basically means it includes the latest start scripts and icons as well and it should hopefully be able to be installed to CF/SD as well.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on September 09, 2005, 12:01:27 pm
link?

I know you have two mirrors for this but its not up.  I have another question.  If it works on sd, would i be able to run these applications such as deb on a fat partition?  I have not been successfull yet.  I put your project aside until someone would get it to work since my time is limited.  I know it works on ext and was about to try it out till i saw the new update.

I'll comfirm if it does install to my fat card as soon as i get the installer.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on September 10, 2005, 12:34:15 pm
Quote
link?

I know you have two mirrors for this but its not up.  I have another question.  If it works on sd, would i be able to run these applications such as deb on a fat partition?  I have not been successfull yet.  I put your project aside until someone would get it to work since my time is limited.  I know it works on ext and was about to try it out till i saw the new update.

I'll comfirm if it does install to my fat card as soon as i get the installer.
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The updated version should be available soon...

Make sure you also get the latest debian install script since it will detect what type of partition you are installing to and if its a ext2 partition it will simply install it, but if it is fat, then it will create a loopback filesystem which is ext2 on top of the fat partition.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on September 10, 2005, 12:46:53 pm
cool I got a 1gb cf card formatted to ext2
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ZDevil on September 10, 2005, 09:08:02 pm
Hi,

First of all thanks to all, especially Meanie, for putting such a huge effort on this X/Qt smoothie!  

I got a 1GB SD and partitioned it into two halves, one FAT and the other EXT2.  Using C1000.

Then I downloaded the latest files and attempted to install the jumbo package on the EXT2 partition (mounted to /mnt/card2) using the command line.  The results are as follows:

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bash-2.05$ su
# ipkg -d /mnt/card2 install /mnt/card/Documents/xqt_jumbo/xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.6_arm.ipk
Unpacking xqt-gtk-jumbopack...Done.
Configuring xqt-gtk-jumbopack.../mnt/card2/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/xqtliblinks: not found
loading libraries ...
generating pango.modules ...
/mnt/card2/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/pango/pango.modules: directory nonexistent
generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders ...
/mnt/card2/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: cannot create /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: directory nonexistent
/mnt/card2/usr/lib/ipkg/info/xqt-gtk-jumbopack.postinst: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/bin/mozhomefix: not found
X/Qt installed sucessfully.
Done.
 

Then I restart Qtopia but couldn't see any X/Qt tab or icon, nor in any other tab.  So it seems the installation process fails (non-trivially) at some point, but not "installed successfully" as reported on the screen.

Installing the latest debian install script (0.6) seemed to be fine, but still no X/Qt tab and icons anywhere....    

Did I do something wrong here?  Any insight into my case?  I am so eager to get X/Qt run on my Akita!   Thank you so much!    
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: adf on September 10, 2005, 10:11:52 pm
lookinvg forward to putting xqt on sd on my 6k.  with so little flaah to begin with, xqt had been quite a burden on my sharprom setup. There will be an announcement when the package is up?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ZDevil on September 12, 2005, 03:38:48 am
Ok, after several failures I gave up trying to install the X/Qt jumbo package on external cards directly, but finally I got X/Qt plus PocketWorktation installed on both a C860 and a C1000 to a 1GB SD card with an ext2 loopback filesystem and a swapfile automatically created during the installation.    

It seems Debian runs noticeably faster on C1000 than C860.  

I was really thrilled when seeing Debian loading for the first time.  Kudo to Meanie!    

Now comes another question: I changed the path of sources.list in /var/mnt/card/debroot/etc/apt by commenting out the internet sources and add

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deb file:/home/zaurus/Documents/Install_Files debs
as detailed on Meanie's page, becuase I want to install additional Debian packages locally.  But what remains unclear to me is the way to install additional Debian packages available downloaded (i.e. NOT throught the net).  

When I was doing this:

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# mkdir -p /home/zaurus/Documents/Install_Files/debs
# cp *.deb /home/zaurus/Documents/Install_Files/debs
# cd /home/zaurus/Documents/Install_Files
# dpkg-scanpackages debs /dev/null | gzip > debs/Packages.gz

I received an error simply saying

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dpkg-scanpackages: command not found
The Packages.gz was still generated, though.  Then I ran PocketWorkstation and tried "apt-get update" and "apt-get install" but nothing was updated nor installed.

Then I googled for several hours looking for a solution but to no avail.  

So could someone here please teach me how to get over this problem and enable Zaurus on Debian to run "apt-get install" with the expected result?  

NB. I have been trying to get OpenVanilla installed and get it to work with OpenOffice as an input method.  Any idea to achieve this?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on September 14, 2005, 07:09:25 am
Hi All

First i want think you MEANIE for the great job you are doing
It helps us (newbies) too much and it makes the zuaurs more powerfull

I have successed installing both xqt and debian on my  C860, and it is AMAZING

Now i am preparing to install OPenoffice on my sd card 1GB

But i don't knew how to uncompress the openoffice cramfs file (in order to

make it loading faster)

Which programme and which command line shall i use to uncompress it

CAN you help please

THANKS

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on September 14, 2005, 08:32:16 am
Quote from: ZDevil,Sep 12 2005, 05:38 PM

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dpkg-scanpackages: command not found
This needs to be run from within Debian. It should work then.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on September 14, 2005, 08:55:53 am
Quote
Hi All

First i want think you MEANIE for the great job you are doing
It helps us (newbies) too much and it makes the zuaurs more powerfull

I have successed installing both xqt and debian on my  C860, and it is AMAZING

Now i am preparing to install OPenoffice on my sd card 1GB

But i don't knew how to uncompress the openoffice cramfs file (in order to

make it loading faster)

Which programme and which command line shall i use to uncompress it

CAN you help please

THANKS

Freebird
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you just need to mount the cramfs file, then copy all the files over and then you can delete the cramfs file, ie

mount -o loop openoffice114.cramfs /mnt
cp -R /mnt /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
umount /mnt
rm openoffice114.cramfs
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on September 14, 2005, 12:10:34 pm
Quote
Quote
Hi All

First i want think you MEANIE for the great job you are doing
It helps us (newbies) too much and it makes the zuaurs more powerfull

I have successed installing both xqt and debian on my  C860, and it is AMAZING

Now i am preparing to install OPenoffice on my sd card 1GB

But i don't knew how to uncompress the openoffice cramfs file (in order to

make it loading faster)

Which programme and which command line shall i use to uncompress it

CAN you help please

THANKS

Freebird
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=95797\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

you just need to mount the cramfs file, then copy all the files over and then you can delete the cramfs file, ie

mount -o loop openoffice114.cramfs /mnt
cp -R /mnt /hdd3/debroot/home/zaurus/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
umount /mnt
rm openoffice114.cramfs
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Hi MEANIE
thanks for your quick reply
but please I have some more questions to avoid any mistake

1- where the cmfs openoffice file must be (which path) before i run these instructions
2- Should i Run these instructions after installing openoffice or before
3- I have c860 so no hdd3 maybe i have to put instead of hdd3 /card/debroot
4- from where i have to run these instructions i mean which directory and which console (debain, or cacko or xqt)
5- i guess i have to type su first ???

Sorry mybe these questions are silly but i am not yet familiarised with linux

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on September 15, 2005, 10:14:44 am
A question about alternate locations for Xqt / Debian etc.

I am planning to do the following:

1. Unmount HDD3
2. Delete HDD3
3. Create 500 MByte HDD3 as FAT for personal files and such
4. Use the remaining space to create HDD4 as ext2

I think I should be able to do this.

What I am not sure about is the following:
- what do I need to do that the Z recognizes HDD4? ( meanie mentions "add entries for hdd4 in /etc/fstab " - what entries do I need to add?)
- will the Xqt / Debian files give me the option to be installed on HDD4?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on September 15, 2005, 12:35:14 pm
Hi All

I have installed both xqt and debian on my c860 using jumbo packages with success
Now i want to add openoffice Meanie package

Meanie wrote: "You can add the optional components even after you have installed Debian. Simply place the optional package in the same directory as xqt-debian-install.sh and re-run it again with the same parameters you had used in the previous install."

So i copy only 2 files to my CF:
the openoffice package (zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz) and the xqt-debian-install.sh file (version 0.3.8)
and then i run:
# su
# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /mnt/card/debroot
i had this message:
error: zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz is corrupted

is this file (zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz ) required to add openoffice (my be i have to copy it to the CF )
does it mean i have to install debian one more time to add openoffice

any help guys

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: stbrock on September 15, 2005, 02:03:07 pm
Quote
I've updated the jumbo pack - xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.ipk which basically means it includes the latest start scripts and icons as well and it should hopefully be able to be installed to CF/SD as well.
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The latest jumbo pack (0.7 as indicated above) and several other updated files are now available on Daniel's mirror, though not yet on Chuckster's as far as I could tell. They all checked out with Daniel's md5 values for me, though there is still the discrepancy between the Chuckster and Daniel md5 values for the firefox file. Perhaps Meanie could post the md5 value for his version of the latest firefox if it's not too much hassle after the crash?

Given how much excellent work on the Zaurus Meanie has turned out in his spare time, one can hardly imagine what he's accomplishing in his day job. I'm looking forward to his next web page on running Linux on the OQO (hint   ). Then if we can find a compatible battery pack so the OQO can last more than a couple of hours, it would start to look pretty attractive, presumably a real step up in speed running fluxbox, eg, instead of XP.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on September 15, 2005, 03:41:25 pm
Quote
The latest jumbo pack (0.7 as indicated above) and several other updated files are now available on Daniel's mirror, though not yet on Chuckster's as far as I could tell. They all checked out with Daniel's md5 values for me, though there is still the discrepancy between the Chuckster and Daniel md5 values for the firefox file. Perhaps Meanie could post the md5 value for his version of the latest firefox if it's not too much hassle after the crash?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=95938\")

Now the new files are downloadable from my web server. I had to re-download a few of them due to differences in the md5sums to meanie's md5sums. But all files which are now online on [a href=\"http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus/xqt]http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/zaurus/xqt[/url] are correct.

In case you have downloaded the xqt-gimp_1.2.5-3_arm.zip package from my website, please re-download it. It was faulty before.

The firefox package was correct before. Chuckster seems to have a wrong md5sum of this file on his page.

And: Please do not download all at the same time.   My web server is not the fastest one.

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on September 16, 2005, 07:48:02 am
Quote
Hi All

I have installed both xqt and debian on my c860 using jumbo packages with success
Now i want to add openoffice Meanie package

Meanie wrote: "You can add the optional components even after you have installed Debian. Simply place the optional package in the same directory as xqt-debian-install.sh and re-run it again with the same parameters you had used in the previous install."

So i copy only 2 files to my CF:
the openoffice package (zaurus-debian-openoffice114.tar.gz) and the xqt-debian-install.sh file (version 0.3.8)
and then i run:
# su
# ./xqt-debian-install.sh /mnt/card/debroot
i had this message:
error: zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz is corrupted

is this file (zaurus-debian-jumbo-v18-b01.tar.gz ) required to add openoffice (my be i have to copy it to the CF )
does it mean i have to install debian one more time to add openoffice

any help guys

Freebird
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Hmm, my bad. I added a feature to check that the debian install file is not corrupted but of course if it is not there it sorta seems corrupted
To install openoffice, you will not need to install debian again, but the installer wants the file to be there so all you need to do is to copy it to your cf card as well. It won't actually install it again. Alternately, you could also comment out that section that check for the file.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on September 21, 2005, 12:53:29 pm
Hi all

Meanie

I wonder if you can add in you web site some words about the keymapping on debian you knew the problem of "/" key

without the right keymapping the installation of debian is like incomplete

And i can't type no instruction without the "/" key

So it is welcome if you can add some explanations on how
1- to add the debian virtual keyboard
2- to resolve the problem of "/" key

You are so helpful to us newbies

btw: congrtulations for your new c3100

and once again thanks for the great job you are doing

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: chiark on September 22, 2005, 01:15:50 pm
Just a bit of feedback regarding installation on a 512MB ext2 formatted card on the 760: using the add/remove software applet failed, saying "this must be installed in main memory" after a while of processing.  

However, going to the command line, su'ing and then ipkg -d /mnt/card install /mnt/card/Documents/install_files/xqt...    saw it install without a complaint.

startx complained that it can't find the shared lobrary "libXMuu.so.1"...

I rebooted, and retried, still to no avail.

Then I tried reinstalling and....   it worked!

Any ideas as to why?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Ragnorok on September 22, 2005, 07:54:39 pm
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dpkg-scanpackages: command not foundThis needs to be run from within Debian. It should work then.
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- I have this same problem running from an x-terminal window within Debian.  If I do a
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find / -name "*scan*" -print 2>/dev/nullin the x-terminal window, it does not locate anything relating to dpkg what-so-ever.  The error message ignore prevents zillions of "permission denied" messages from appearing when it's traversing the /proc tree.
- I'm of the impression I need to run something to build "Packages.gz" so apt-get will use the local directory setting I put in sources.list.  I don't seem to have web connectivity with Hiro via the USB to the laptop, so I can't just pop out to the default sites in sources.list and let it get things.  I have the .deb files I want to install on the SD card already, if I can just get apt-get to figure out where they are...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Smuffle on October 02, 2005, 04:41:50 am
I read someone seeing the error "required depencies not here" or something like that but I couldn't for the life of me work out the solution to this problem from peoples' replies.

You guessed it, I'm having this problem and haven't a CLUE what to do about it.  Not fun being a noooob...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on October 02, 2005, 08:46:05 am
I want to ask a question here
i have installed debian and it works really well
however, i got a problem
i want to set the locales:
used "apt-get install locales"
but during the setting(dpkg-reconfigure locales), i clicked zh_TW.utf8
and it ends to run out of memory
the x/qt is killed automacially

i have mointor the memory during the second time
i noticed that the physical memory is near full(>55M)
while the swap still has about 33M free...
but it still crush!
any method to solve this problem?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 14, 2005, 03:27:51 am
Quote
I want to ask a question here
i have installed debian and it works really well
however, i got a problem
i want to set the locales:
used "apt-get install locales"
but during the setting(dpkg-reconfigure locales), i clicked zh_TW.utf8
and it ends to run out of memory
the x/qt is killed automacially

i have mointor the memory during the second time
i noticed that the physical memory is near full(>55M)
while the swap still has about 33M free...
but it still crush!
any method to solve this problem?
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not sure, but maybe you need to create a bigger swapfile. if the swapfile is too small, things from physical memory cannot be moved to swap in order to clean up the physical memory.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 14, 2005, 03:35:41 am
I've been thinking about building a cramfs image for X/Qt jumbo so instead of installing X/Qt via normal ipk which takes ages and has problems with installing to CF/SD/hdd3, one could just copy the xqt-jumbo.cramfs file to desired location, ie CF, SD or HDD3, mount it as a loop device and then just run xqt-install.sh and it sets up all the required symlinks similar to my zgcc2-95-2.cramfs image. since the package will be using the exact binaries as the xqt-gtk-jumbo package, all should be the same except for the symlinks needing some testing to make sure that I didn't forget any  Anyone wanna try and be a beta tester?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on October 14, 2005, 07:20:31 am
Having the whole thing on SD is a big plus and probably the only way I can run this. Insufficient Internal Storage is a recurring problem.

Count me in.

Can the package include Thunderbird, or it is early days yet?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 14, 2005, 09:17:06 am
Quote
Having the whole thing on SD is a big plus and probably the only way I can run this. Insufficient Internal Storage is a recurring problem.

Count me in.

Can the package include Thunderbird, or it is early days yet?
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now that  you mention it, I could add various x apps onto the cramfs file or have an addon xqtapps.cramfs

now i just need to figure out which apps to include on the cramfs image
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on October 14, 2005, 10:49:16 am
I asked for Thunderbird because some of us are desparate for an email app. Does Sylpheed work under xqt?

What you are proposing to do here is just amazing.

If I can help with trying out a beta version then you can rely on prompt feedback.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 14, 2005, 12:34:18 pm
I think I will do the following for starters:


FireFox
ThunderBird
Minimo
Dillo
Sylpheed
Xchat
AbiWord
TheGimp
Ethereal
JRE1.3.1
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: icruise on October 14, 2005, 12:53:32 pm
If you can get it running from an SD card, that would be just great. I've tried out your package, but I ended up getting rid of it since it takes a lot of space on the internal flash. But I'd like to have these apps available. I don't have the time to be a beta tester right now, but I'm looking forward to hearing how it goes.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on October 14, 2005, 12:56:19 pm
Meanie,

would it be possible to create an installer ( for C3x00 ), which would automatically
- make a backup of HDD3 to SD
- unmount HDD3
- create a smaller FAT32 HDD3
- restore the backup created
- create a HDD4 in ext2 or ext3
- mount HDD4

and then all the debian, openoffice etc. files could be installed, in a (non compressed) way on HDD4.

Thank you.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 14, 2005, 03:49:26 pm
Meanie, I have spent 2 hours in this forum trying to find how to free space on my C1000 to install your X/QT package.. and still do not know how to have 50MB free !!.
And now you just offer what i need  !!, I could be a beta tester if you need !.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 14, 2005, 07:12:26 pm
actually, i did another method.  I installed xqt and made a list of necessery files needed to run xqt off the sd card.  after i established the bare minimum files needed to have xqt running in the sd card, i managed to occupy only 2mb.  So the other 18 or what ever runs off the sd card.

After i established xqt, i Installed silpheed and gimp.  Both ran off the sd.  I was so happy that i Tried to install debian and openoffice....to my surprise, I cant figure out why i am the onli idiot who cant run those applications.  ext2 even by then wont run.

so.......i got emacs, gimp, and silpheed running off the sd drive while still maintaining all other applications in my system(alot of software) and dstill have xqt.  I am not putting this information out until i really get it narrowed down though.  Im  just trying out various methods........   sucks cuz it is so time consuming.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 14, 2005, 09:30:23 pm
good luck cresho and meanie :-)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 18, 2005, 03:42:37 am
ok, I've finished creating the xqt jumbo cramfs image. it is about 16MB in size and copies about 500k to the internal storage/flash during install. all you need to do is mount the cramfs image and run the install script which will then create the neccessary symlinks and xqt is installed. potentially, this script can also be used with the xqt-gtk-jumbo ipk package to relink the files after install to SD or CF   now thw xqt apps will be next which should be easy
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 18, 2005, 11:25:49 am
is-it available somewhere ? do you want beta testing ?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 18, 2005, 08:00:56 pm
cant wait to try it meanie!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 19, 2005, 10:50:42 am
ok, cresho and bolbit, if you two are still interested, you can test the new xqt cramfs images

simply place all files, xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs, xqt-apps.cramfs and xqt-install into any directory you like such as /mnt/card/xqt or whatever. then just run ./xqt-install from that directory and wait a few seconds and you're done.

i will send you the url for downloading the files in pm.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: el_borak on October 20, 2005, 10:34:38 am
Meanie,

If you still want testers for the cramfs image, I'm game (as is my C860).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 20, 2005, 11:29:02 am
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Meanie,

If you still want testers for the cramfs image, I'm game (as is my C860).
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Thanks for the offer but I currently cannot let more people access my server. I am way over my net quota (downloaded too many solaris 10 iso images) so all my net traffic is now crawling like a snail

At the moment, the biggest challenge would be to download the cramfs images. Installattion only takes a few seconds  and I am pretty sure I ironed out all the bugs already.

The current xqt application cramfs comes with the following pre-installed and I have tested them to be working fine

abiword 2.0
dillo 0.8
ethereal 0.10.2
firefox 0.9
gimp 1.2.5
minimo 1.6
sylpheed 0.9.99
thunderbird 0.6
xchat 2.0.5
xmms 1.2.10

hopefully this mix has enough useful applications to choose from
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 20, 2005, 04:21:55 pm
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Quote
Meanie,

If you still want testers for the cramfs image, I'm game (as is my C860).
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Thanks for the offer but I currently cannot let more people access my server. I am way over my net quota (downloaded too many solaris 10 iso images) so all my net traffic is now crawling like a snail

At the moment, the biggest challenge would be to download the cramfs images. Installattion only takes a few seconds  and I am pretty sure I ironed out all the bugs already.

The current xqt application cramfs comes with the following pre-installed and I have tested them to be working fine

abiword 2.0
dillo 0.8
ethereal 0.10.2
firefox 0.9
gimp 1.2.5
minimo 1.6
sylpheed 0.9.99
thunderbird 0.6
xchat 2.0.5
xmms 1.2.10

hopefully this mix has enough useful applications to choose from
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you need a good mirror, with some bandwidth to burn?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on October 21, 2005, 08:08:12 am
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I think I will do the following for starters:


FireFox
ThunderBird
Minimo
Dillo
Sylpheed
Xchat
AbiWord
TheGimp
Ethereal
JRE1.3.1
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Hello ALL
i have installed on my c860 both xqt and debian using ext2 formatted 1GB SD CARD i have also installed openoffice IT IS REALLY AMAZING
i have used MEANIE packages and refered to his webpages so THANKS VERY MUCH MEANIE  
and thanks to you all guys for your advises
i have also uncompressed the openoffice cramfs to make it faster but loading remain long about 4minutes to load openoffice; 1mn for xqt and 1 minurte for debian any way when it is loaded every thing is ok

Now i am waiting the xqt and xqt-packages cramfs release

MEANIE could you please add two packages which i think are intresting:

-Grisbi: which is very powerful account manager running under mutliplatforms
          ipk exists for openzaurus and pdaxrom I tested both under cacko and XQT but it doesnot work

-Gqview: is also a good image viewer ipk exists for pdaxrom but it dosn't work under xqt

cheers
Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 21, 2005, 11:57:12 am
Quote
Quote
I think I will do the following for starters:


FireFox
ThunderBird
Minimo
Dillo
Sylpheed
Xchat
AbiWord
TheGimp
Ethereal
JRE1.3.1
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Hello ALL
i have installed on my c860 both xqt and debian using ext2 formatted 1GB SD CARD i have also installed openoffice IT IS REALLY AMAZING
i have used MEANIE packages and refered to his webpages so THANKS VERY MUCH MEANIE  
and thanks to you all guys for your advises
i have also uncompressed the openoffice cramfs to make it faster but loading remain long about 4minutes to load openoffice; 1mn for xqt and 1 minurte for debian any way when it is loaded every thing is ok

Now i am waiting the xqt and xqt-packages cramfs release

MEANIE could you please add two packages which i think are intresting:

-Grisbi: which is very powerful account manager running under mutliplatforms
          ipk exists for openzaurus and pdaxrom I tested both under cacko and XQT but it doesnot work

-Gqview: is also a good image viewer ipk exists for pdaxrom but it dosn't work under xqt

cheers
Freebird
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I got both gqview and grisbi working under xqt

now my problem is that my xqt-apps.cramfs is way too big (almost 50MB) so I am thinking of dividing it up into smaller logical parts, ie

xqt-apps-mozilla.cramfs containing firefox and thunderbird
xqt-apps-office.cramfs containing abiword grisbi gnumeric sylpheed and dillo
xqt-apps-multimedia.cramfs xmms gimp gqview
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 21, 2005, 11:59:22 am
There is on reason for the breakup if this thing is installable into an sd card.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: el_borak on October 21, 2005, 04:36:04 pm
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There is on reason for the breakup if this thing is installable into an sd card.
Those with small SD cards might disagree with you.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 21, 2005, 09:06:39 pm
Thanks to Bam for creating a mirror for the new cramfs images!

The files can be found at http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/ (http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/)

simply download and place all files into same directory anywhere you wish where you have plenty of space and then

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gzip -d xqt-install.sh.gz
./xqt-install.sh

that's it.

The xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs contains the xqt-gtk-jumbo package which is required unless you already have the full xqt jumbo ipk package installed already

The xqt-apps.cramfs currently contains:
abiword 2.0
dillo 0.8
ethereal 0.10.2
firefox 0.9
gimp 1.2.5
minimo 1.6
sylpheed 0.9.99
thunderbird 0.6
xchat 2.0.5
xmms 1.2.10

which makes it almost 50MB in size


what I am planning to do is to split it up into smaller chunks and add more applications to it.

so my current thinking is

 xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs (no changes needed)

 xqt-mozilla (containing firefox and thunderbird - they use about 20MB which is almost half of the xqt-apps)

 java.cramfs (just the blackbox 1.3.1 jre for starters, I will add some working java apps to it in later revisions)

 xqt-apps.cramfs (all the previous apps excluding thunderbird and firefox and some additional ones such as gqview and grisbi)

This would come to a rough total of 80MB of compressed applications. This would never had fit into the flash.


on another note to freebird, the best i could get on my 3100 was with everything installed to a 4GB CF card formatted as ext2 and uncompressed openoffice cramfs and it loaded xqt and debian in less than a minute, about 42 seconds and openoffice loaded in 1 minute and 53 seconds.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 21, 2005, 09:46:56 pm
WOH!!!!!

thanks bam!!!  but one problem

if i download it through internet explorer, i get an error corrupt file

if i just click on firefox, it opens file up and you see a bunch of code.

if i right click and download it, it downloads it to my pc but....  its okay..


crazy.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 22, 2005, 01:01:01 am
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WOH!!!!!

thanks bam!!!  but one problem

if i download it through internet explorer, i get an error corrupt file

if i just click on firefox, it opens file up and you see a bunch of code.

if i right click and download it, it downloads it to my pc but....  its okay..


crazy.
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maybe I should zip them....faster download, less corruption.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 22, 2005, 01:27:33 pm
thanks Bam for your mirror !!
Meanie, i have still the following error from pango lib ? :
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bash-2.05# xqtliblinks
...linking required X/Qt binaries
...linking required X/Qt libraries
...linking config files
...loading libraries
...generating pango.modules
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_buffer_set_rtl
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_fc_font_kern_glyphs
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_buffer_get_glyphs
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_ruleset_substitute
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so does not export Pango module API
...generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders
g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: undefined symbol: TIFFReadRGBAImageOriented
X/Qt configured.

I tried to remove the previous link, and relaunch the install script but still same error..
X works, but if I want to launch abiword or thundirbird, that does not work.
for abiword, i can see the launch picture but then there is a error about the pango lib ...

it should come from the previous install, but how to fix it ?

I used the .tar.gz file from Bam.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 22, 2005, 02:27:38 pm
Quote
thanks Bam for your mirror !!
Meanie, i have still the following error from pango lib ? :
Code: [Select]
bash-2.05# xqtliblinks
...linking required X/Qt binaries
...linking required X/Qt libraries
...linking config files
...loading libraries
...generating pango.modules
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_buffer_set_rtl
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_fc_font_kern_glyphs
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hangul-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_engine_shape_get_type
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-hebrew-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_buffer_get_glyphs
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-indic-fc.so does not export Pango module API
Cannot load module /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so: undefined symbol: pango_ot_ruleset_substitute
/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-thai-fc.so does not export Pango module API
...generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders
g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: undefined symbol: TIFFReadRGBAImageOriented
X/Qt configured.

I tried to remove the previous link, and relaunch the install script but still same error..
X works, but if I want to launch abiword or thundirbird, that does not work.
for abiword, i can see the launch picture but then there is a error about the pango lib ...

it should come from the previous install, but how to fix it ?

I used the .tar.gz file from Bam.
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try the following:

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rm -r /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/pango
rm /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libpan*
xqt-setup
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Scot on October 22, 2005, 03:39:30 pm
So for a new install, which way do you recommend - the new cramFS version or the
previous jumbo ipk and tar files?

Thanks,
scot
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 22, 2005, 03:58:57 pm
thanks,

For this

Code: [Select]
...generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders
g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: undefined symbol: TIFFReadRGBAImageOriented

i created by hand the missing links following your script.

I can run abiword and thundirdbird !!.

as i'm here .. sorry for so many questions ..

There is still a message when i run abiword or thunderbird :
Code: [Select]
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/ja_JP.eucJP/libsl.qmid
(note that the double / is in the error message)

I don't know if it is because of that, but the menu in abiword are very very strange (squares with little circle).

and one more time : thank you veru much meanie for your works.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on October 22, 2005, 04:10:55 pm
I have downloaded the files from bam - multiple times, both to my PC and directly to the C3100.

In all cases, when I try to expand the install file ( both on PC and on the Z) I get a message stating, that the file is corrupt.

Any help would be welcome...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 22, 2005, 04:17:09 pm
right click and save as

dont use internet explorer unless files are ziped
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on October 22, 2005, 06:10:30 pm
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right click and save as

dont use internet explorer unless files are ziped
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I also tried with Netfront - same result...

bam, could you please ZIP the files, to eliminate such problems?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 23, 2005, 12:35:55 am
not sure about the tiff stuff, worst scenario would be you wont be able to display tiff images I guess, but try installing libtiff and see if that helps.

as for the i18n warning, that one can be safely ignored but if it bothers you, then you can symlink it to /home/QtPalmtop/i18n/en/libsl.qmid and dont worry about the // since linux is smart enough to figure that it should only be /

now the important bit. set LANG to en. in an xterm, type:

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LANG=en
and then launch abiword

the next xqt-apps.cramfs will fix that


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...generating gdk-pixbuf.loaders
g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so: undefined symbol: TIFFReadRGBAImageOriented

There is still a message when i run abiword or thunderbird :
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could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/ja_JP.eucJP/libsl.qmid
(note that the double / is in the error message)

I don't know if it is because of that, but the menu in abiword are very very strange (squares with little circle).

and one more time : thank you veru much meanie for your works.
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 23, 2005, 02:27:11 am
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right click and save as

dont use internet explorer unless files are ziped
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=100545\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I also tried with Netfront - same result...

bam, could you please ZIP the files, to eliminate such problems?
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 I *.tar.gz'd them try now, maybe all is ok? My firefox actually asked to download them this time instead of showing "text", please let me know, if this doesnt do it, then they will get zipped.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 23, 2005, 02:55:45 am
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right click and save as

dont use internet explorer unless files are ziped
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=100545\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I also tried with Netfront - same result...

bam, could you please ZIP the files, to eliminate such problems?
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 I *.tar.gz'd them try now, maybe all is ok? My firefox actually asked to download them this time instead of showing "text", please let me know, if this doesnt do it, then they will get zipped.
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Its a feature of the newer webservers and browsers to do on the fly compression and decompression during downloads. They use a magic file to determine known mime types to do it properly. Unfortunately the default magic files on most servers only know the common mime types such as .zip extensions and use a guessing method to determine other compressed or unknown formats. I guess, they guessed wrongly (pun intended).

Bam, to fix it you need to edit your web server's mime.types and add gz and ipk to the
application/octet-stream line or just hosts them as zip files. Now you know why my ipk files are all available as zip files instead of ipk files on my main mirror site
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 23, 2005, 11:38:05 am
ok, I guess so, zipping and uploading....
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 23, 2005, 03:11:09 pm
thanks, LANG=en is ok for sylpheed, and abiword etc..

Nothing about config, but if you want (like me) a better e-mail client for your Z than the available from the sharp rom, sylpheed with the meanie's xqt package is quite fast to launch and easy to use.
I wanted first to use thunderbird, like with my laptop, but thunderbird is very very slow, compare to sylpheed on the Z.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 24, 2005, 12:59:55 am
Meanie,
it seems that there is an issue (at least for me !) about the cramfs jumbo package :

I was not able to reboot properly after it was installed. the Z just show the Sharp picture for eternity..

I have then restored a backup without any xqt install (this time) and the reboot=>ok

After the cramfs installation, i tried to reboot => same pb. I was able to connect to the Z via the USB connection and openssh while the Z was showing the startup screen since a long time. here is the outpout from ps command:
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[root@zaurus root]# ps -aux -f
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1 23.4  0.9  1260  560 ?        S    04:40   0:38 init
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [keventd]
root         3  2.1  0.0     0    0 ?        RWN  04:40   0:03 [kapm-idled]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [off_thread]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [battchrgon]
root         6  0.1  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [battchrgoff]
root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [sharpsl_bat]
root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  04:40   0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root         9  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [kswapd]
root        10  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [bdflush]
root        11  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [kupdated]
root        12  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [rcscan]
root        13  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [rcenirq]
root        14  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [buzzer]
root        18  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [snd_hp]
root        20  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   04:40   0:00 [mtdblockd]
root        43  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  04:41   0:00 [jffs2_gcd_mtd3]
root       115  0.0  0.7  1252  472 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /sbin/sdmgr -d /dev/sd_slotstat -c
/etc/sdcard/sd.conf
root       139  0.2  1.1  1396  724 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /sbin/cardmgr
root       157  0.0  1.0  1512  644 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
root       311  6.4  2.1  1796 1340 ?        S    04:42   0:01  \_ sshd: root@pts/0
root       312  0.4  0.8  1272  508 pts/0    S    04:42   0:00      \_ -sh
root       313  2.0  2.2  2024 1404 pts/0    S    04:42   0:00          \_ bash
root       314  0.0  1.3  2544  824 pts/0    R    04:43   0:00              \_ ps -aux -f
bin        167  0.0  0.2    24  176 ?        S    04:41   0:00 [rpc.portmap]
root       177  0.0  0.8  1264  532 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /home/QtPalmtop/bin/atd /var/spool/at
root       194  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        DW   04:41   0:00 [usbh-moni]
root       235  0.0  0.7  1264  444 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /sbin/launch
root       237  0.1  0.8  1264  516 ?        S    04:41   0:00  \_ /bin/sh ./qpe.sh
root       299  0.0  0.6  1428  404 ?        S    04:42   0:00      \_ chvt 1
root       236  0.0  0.5  1244  348 ?        S    04:41   0:00 /sbin/shsync
root       283  0.0  1.0  1672  644 ?        SN   04:42   0:00 [qeserver]
root       298  2.2  1.2  1696  756 ?        SN   04:42   0:01  \_ [qeserver]
root       302  0.0  1.2  1588  796 ?        S    04:42   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd -cf etc/hotplug/dhcpcd.conf -lf /var/state/dh
root       307  0.0  2.3  2540 1440 ?        S    04:42   0:00 smbd -D -l /dev/null
root       309  0.3  2.3  2260 1448 ?        S    04:42   0:00 nmbd -D -l /dev/null
it seems that qpe is stopped somewhere. if i launch qeserver, here there are these messages :
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[root@zaurus root]# qeserver
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/addressbook.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/clock.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/systemtime.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/irrecv.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/qtmail.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/helpbrowser.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/textedit.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/ssoundconf.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/backuprestore.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/zimager.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/citytime.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/appearance.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/appskey.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/sysinfo.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/HancomMobileWord.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/todolist.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/tabconf.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/hancomsheet.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/light-and-power.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/calculator.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/qinstall.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/datebook.so)
libjpeg.so.62: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
qe_dlfind(): can't dlopen(/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/binlib/security.so)
as the libjpeg.so.62 is a part of the xqtapps cramfs, i mounted the xqtjumbo and the xqtapps cramfs image by hand (there was not mounted at the

time), kill the failing qpe and qeserver process . and then the boot process continue. and was ok.

why the qpe.sh script need this lib from the X/Qt install ???

Note that before reboot,
- the startx command works,
- abiword fail to load with a libgthread-2.0.so.0 error, (it was working with the first install ??)
- sylpheed, dillo, xmms, gimp, ethereal, thunderbird and firefox works.

PS : I tried two time the same thing (restore a working backup, reboot , install xqt jumbo cramfs package , try to reboot) to be sure about that.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: el_borak on October 24, 2005, 11:54:19 am
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I was not able to reboot properly after it was installed. the Z just show the Sharp picture for eternity..
It isn't just you.  I have had the same result on my C860.  I just haven't had any time to diagnose it yet, so I hadn't posted.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bdbell on October 24, 2005, 12:49:59 pm
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I was not able to reboot properly after it was installed. the Z just show the Sharp picture for eternity..
It isn't just you.  I have had the same result on my C860.  I just haven't had any time to diagnose it yet, so I hadn't posted.
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Similar wierdness here - hung on reboot - restored backup and tried again - same thing.  third time I installed Debian using latest xqt-debian-install.sh file.  Now I have to pull the battery to reboot - but it does not hang?  I am having problems running some of the settings apps also - like Network and System Info?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 24, 2005, 12:54:49 pm
ok, so i m not alone..
After booting with the workaround above, there is some strange stuff. There is something running in background (there is the sand glass on the task bar)??

the network setup don't want to run.. and it is possible to umount /home/xqtjumbo but it not possible to umount /home/xqtapps

there is something like :

umount ioctl : LOOP_CLR_FD:device busy
/home/xqtapps device busy

??
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 25, 2005, 08:33:25 pm
sorry everone, I made a mistake with the xqt-apps.cramfs image. Please do not install it until the next fixed release is announced.

I am currently away from home on an assignment and have limited access to the net so won't be posting anything until I get home, but for those who already installed xqt-apps, here is what you need to do to fix it:

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ln -sf /QtPalmtop.rom/lib/libjpeg.so.62 /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libjpeg.so.62
ln -sf /QtPalmtop.rom/lib/libjpeg.so /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libjpeg.so
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Scot on October 26, 2005, 01:24:27 am
So I'm still wondering which method I should install if I haven't done so already - the
new cramfs option or the previous ipk/tar option? Is one easier/faster/better performance,
etc.?

thanks,

scot
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bolbit on October 26, 2005, 09:11:21 am
For my experience, installing the cramfs package on a clean Z (ie without a previous X/Qt install) is very very easy. I didn't have the required flash memory available to try the ipk jumbo package. if you want to try just wait the updated apps cramsfs.
About the performances, X launch is ok, some apps too (like sylpheed). but thunderdbird (for me) is realy to long to launch.
Last thing, it may be easier to uninstall the ipk package than remove all the links created by the cramfs setup ?.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 28, 2005, 05:50:23 am
Basically the difference between the ipk and the cramfs jumbo xqt is as follows:

ipk file:
 takes long time to install (30mins - 1 hour)
 requires 40MB space + tmp space on main memory
 has to be installed to main memory (unless you use xipk)
 might run a little bit faster (depends on model)
 can be uninstalled from package manager gui

cramfs:
 takes less than 1 minute to install
 uses about 15MB
 can be installed anywhere
 have to use command line to install (need a console)
 may run a little bit slower because files are all compressed
 can be uninstalled from package manager gui (ver 0.2)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: The_Poet on October 29, 2005, 09:55:21 am
OK, as a self-professed uneducated-in-the-ways-of-linux person even though I still love my Zaurus 3000, I would like some help with this...

What am I doing wrong???

I downloaded the ipk of the Jumbo X/QT package and clicked install package.

I am now getting an Install Error that says "This package seems to depends on other packages. Please install them, too."

Then I finish the install and I reboot the Zaurus.

Then when I try to run any of the new programs other than any of the new icons...it shows the icon exploding like everything else but I get the system stall while beneath it says debian not installed and minimo not installed etc.... it only runs Start X and X/Qt Server, but it locks up when I try to exit out of those applications.


I am running the Cacko ROM -- does that make a big difference in this? I would love to be able to run all of this, even if just to have some alternatives....

Thanks,

Poet
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 29, 2005, 10:11:42 am
The cramfs images are finished and just need to be put up on Bam's mirror site.

The xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs hasn't changed much. I just added an uninstall feature so once you have it installed, it will appear in the qInstaller uninstall list.

The old xqt-apps.cramfs has been split into xqt-mozilla.cramfs and a new xqt-apps.cramfs

The xqt-mozilla.cramfs contains Mozilla Firefox 0.9 and Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6. Because it  is just a port over to the Zaurus, there is no optimisation and thus it loads pretty slow but runs reasonably once loaded. These two apps are for die hard Mozilla fans.

The xqt-apps contains an updated bundle of applications:

abiword 2.0 which is a word processor
dillo 0.8 which is a fast but simple web browser
ethereal 0.10.2 is a network sniffer and analyzer
flfm 0.3 is a X file manager
fltdj 0.7 is a PIM application
gimp 1.2.5 is a graphical image manipulation tool
gqview 1.4.2 is an image viewer
gnumeric 1.2.2 is a spreadsheet tool
grisbi 0.5 is an accounting package
minimo 1.6 is an optimised and customised port of Mozilla
nedit 5.4 is a powerful text editor
sylpheed 0.9.99 is an email client
xchat 2.0.5 is an irc chat client
xmms 1.2.10 is a multimedia player capable of playing sound and video

I hope this set of application is going to be useful.

Finally, java.cramfs is a full blown Java Runtime (blackdown JRE 1.3.1) which runs in command line and also in graphics mode with awt and swing in X/Qt. I also added jikes and kopi compiler so you can write and compile java applications on the Zaurus and run them. In addition, I also included two sample java applications, Hd Pad and Hd Crawler. These run quite slowly due to java being very slow on the Zaurus. Hd Pad is a simple text editor and Hd Crawler is a download tool that can download images and files from entire yahoo and msn groups. It also has a few other tools for splitting and combining files as well as generic url sequence generation...

Have fun running all these X apps on your Zaurus using the Sharp ROM.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on October 30, 2005, 10:45:29 am
i want to ask if the files on the site(http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/) are updated?
i see that there is a new java image and its last modified day is 30 oct
but other images' are 23 oct...

and final words, i am shocked by the effort you've put on these things
really thx for the jumbo package and the great website made by you
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 30, 2005, 10:57:12 am
they are updating now as we post...



edit: forgot to zip re-uploading...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: rebski on October 30, 2005, 01:39:28 pm
Bam, that is a way cool web site you have put together.

I must have had my head in the sand not to have checked it out sooner.

Previously I had just gone straignt to the Index of Meanies_XQT page.

Thanks for the resource.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 30, 2005, 03:19:18 pm
meanie put up some fantastic files.

The only problem i have is mounting and unmounting after a restart and umount and mount the sd card when ever i want to eject the thing and...well you know.  It mounts itself stuck to the unit.

Ill probably make some icons for ease of use especially for the newbies and or ill put up some commands so the newbies can easily be able to mount the stuff after an install.

other than that, it works great. man meanie.....you gaved the flexibility the c1000 users needed.

I had to reinstall the whole thing since my system was basterdized from previous x environments.  I recommend people to reinstall if they expirience problems.


----------------------------------------------
Some NOtes for us newbies and myself.
----------------------------------------------
updating.....
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 30, 2005, 06:07:04 pm
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Bam, that is a way cool web site you have put together.

I must have had my head in the sand not to have checked it out sooner.

Previously I had just gone straignt to the Index of Meanies_XQT page.

Thanks for the resource.
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thanks, whenever I find anything to do with cool system tweaks for the SL-CXXX series I put them in there.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on October 30, 2005, 06:56:49 pm
Cresho Mind if I put your post up at my site for reference(just in case this place has a hiccup)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 30, 2005, 07:07:09 pm
yeah go ahead.  Im still modifying it since it makes kinda no sense.  I had to put this up cuz i was a bit frustrated with the mounting and unmounting since i always eject the darn card to upload pictures from my sd camera which is the mustek or audio files from recorded lecture or even videos which i record on the go.

well i had to take down the commands because there was a bit of a problem

ohh darn..

i forgot to ask..if when meanie is going to release the crams for openoffice and debian?

and abiword still does not work. missing libgthread-2.0.so.0

filemanager is a little funky

gnumeric needs libgthread-2.0.so.0

mounting and unmounting is done in the terminal.  my sudo only allowed 2 loops in fat and when i went to ext and reinstalled, still said only 2 available.  i may need to reinstall but ill let you guys know later what goes on.

at this moment, I would preffer a crams file that includes all of them including debian and office.  Releave the problems of doing mounting unmounting and loop0 problems.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 30, 2005, 11:02:24 pm
The Z by default only has 2 loop devices. The script in my automounter package creates additional loop devices which allows you to have up to 7 loop devices.

I have created a xqtmega.cramfs bundle which contains all four cramfs images in one big cramfs image (98MB). However, I am having problems uploading it due to bandwidth restrictions on my site

There is a also a xqt-cleanup script which takes a brute force approach to cleaning up left over xqt files. If the xqt-install.sh doesnt work because of previous xqt components being installed, try the xqt-cleanup first before reflashing. it may save you some time

As for auto mounting and unmounting the cramfs files from SD or CF on insert and remove, you can modify /etc/sdcontrol or /etc/pcmcia/ide and add the appropriate mount and unmount commands to the appropriate eject and insert section

eg:

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insert)
    sdctrl insert $SOCKET
    if [ -f /mnt/card/xtq/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs ]; then
        mount -o loop /mnt/card/xqt/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo
    fi
;;


eject)
    if [ `mount|grep loop|grep xqt-gtk-jumbo` != "" ]; then
        umount /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo
    fi
   ....

The above is just a simple illustration. of course you need to mount each of the cramfs images you have and unmount them as well. I might write a script that you can call from within sdcontrol to simplify things...


Have a look at http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html) for more info about XQT jumbo
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on October 31, 2005, 12:21:39 am
thanks meanie.  Ill keep you posted when i reinstall cuz uninstalling sudo and running ext2 gaved me the same problems with loop device problems.  Tomorrow after school, ill give it a shot with a fresh install.

Nice to see things running btw..very nice stuff.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on October 31, 2005, 06:08:11 am
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thanks meanie.  Ill keep you posted when i reinstall cuz uninstalling sudo and running ext2 gaved me the same problems with loop device problems.  Tomorrow after school, ill give it a shot with a fresh install.

Nice to see things running btw..very nice stuff.
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cresho,

sudo and ext2 have nothing to do with the loop device being unavailable. you just ran out of them since there are only 2 by default. my mntloop script which comes with my automounter package creates additional loop devices on reboots. they need to be recreated each time.

also my latest automounter package (0.4.3) now is enhanced to automatically mount and unmount any loop devices that are defined in /etc/fstab for SD and CF cards. So whenever you insert a SD card for example, it will mount all the loop devices defined for the SD card if the file exists, and unmount it if you eject the card.

as a bonus feature, it will also enable a swapfile if one exists on the sd card (needs to be called swapfile and located in the root directory, ie /mnt/card/swapfile) and also disables it when the SD is ejected. The same also happens for CF cards (/mnt/cf/swapfile).

my mntloop script assumes that cramfs files have a .cramfs extension, an ext2 formatted loopback file has a .ext2 extension, etc. It recognises .cramfs, .squashfs, .ext2 and .ext3 extensions. to disable a mount point from automatically being mounted, you can comment out its definition by placing a hash (#) at the beginning of the line in /etc/fstab.

mount points defined in /etc/fstab are mounted after each reboot automatically which would fail with the default Sharp config if you had more than 2 loop devices defined. the mntloop script creates additional loop devices and then mounts all the loop devices that failed previously, but it will check and not mount them twice if they are already mounted.

i also modified /etc/sdcard/sd_mem_ctrl and /etc/pcmcia/ide which controls the insert and ejection of SD and CF card respectively to call mntloop.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 01, 2005, 11:58:27 pm
Meanie!

I gaved it a shot.  It works fine.  I put all the cram files in  an sd, installed sudo, and your auto mounter ipk.

then i ran install.sh

i can now eject the sd card and insert it..



just like you said.  it automounts and unmounts.  Everything works fine.  everything runs on a fat partition just fine.

the only thing i had to do was to start from scratch because i was using a certain xqt feed which basterdized all processes.  Nothing would work.  even your xqt cleaner did not clean the files.  This was do from my installers.  Yours are all fine.

now the only thing need to fix are certain applications-very few.

just for my notes and newbies

files needed to make it run
automounter-c3000_0.4.3_arm.ipk
sudo_1.6.3p7-2_arm.ipk

and download crams from here courtisy from bam
http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/ (http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/)

extract all files in a folder in sd and run xqt-install.sh "./xqt-install.sh"

and instructions to run the x environment
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how to use....
ckick on the tab and hit start x....it starts 8)
the menu button on the z keyboard you can shutdown here and also go full screen.
now hit the fn key and click the the screen(don't click on the terminal)...you just excecuted right click.  regular taps is left click.  this opens up new menus and you can change the look here as well or configure environment.  to add or remove executables within x environment you need to configure Blackbox menus /opt/QtPalmtop/share/blackbox/menu
------------------------------------------------

ill post up one or 2 applications that seem to be acting funny with me.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bdbell on November 02, 2005, 03:04:26 am
Cresho - you mention using the sudo package, and meanies site says not to use the sudo package on Cacko - what do us Cacko ROM users do, is sudo not necessary with the Cacko ROM?

tia,

Brent
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 02, 2005, 10:18:40 am
When i tried it on cacko, did not work.

I tried automounter and i did not try sudo.

give it a shot.  Im interested but i flashed back to sharprom.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on November 02, 2005, 11:10:18 am
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When i tried it on cacko, did not work.

I tried automounter and i did not try sudo.

give it a shot.  Im interested but i flashed back to sharprom.
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I have tried the full installer ( not the cramfs version ) of debian, openoffice etc. as compiled by Meanie with Cacko and it works great...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 02, 2005, 11:32:56 am
i had to install sudo....dont know why it wont work without it.

hey gadgetguy-

were did you get the packages from?

in the terminal, the coma does not work under cacko.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on November 02, 2005, 11:39:28 am
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i had to install sudo....dont know why it wont work without it.

hey gadgetguy-

were did you get the packages from?

in the terminal, the coma does not work under cacko.
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I got the files from from: [a href=\"http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/]http://www.chuckster.org/zaurus/[/url]

what do you mean, that "coma does not work under cacko"? all the keys I have tried worked for me...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 02, 2005, 11:41:35 am
well does it work or not?  

try hitting it a couple of times in the rxvt terminal
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on November 02, 2005, 11:50:32 am
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well does it work or not? 

try hitting it a couple of times in the rxvt terminal
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I am at the office - my Z is at home...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 02, 2005, 10:19:52 pm
Funny about the keymappings. Mine all work both in my C3000 and C3100. Maybe you should compare your keymap to mine or use it. My xqt keymap can be found at http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/cus...xmodmaprc-c3000 (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom/xmodmaprc-c3000)

rename it to .xmodmaprc and place it under /home/zaurus and/or /home/root

Obviously this keymap only works for C3000/C3100/C1000 models. The key layouts for other models are slightly different and since I don't have one of those, you will need to create your own keymap translation file.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 02, 2005, 11:03:42 pm
well, I managed to create a cramfs for OpenOffice with a shrink wrapped version of debian on it which I have called minideb. The whole cramfs image is just under 100MB but I am still working on shrinking it further. This allows you to run openoffice without installing pocketworkstation. all you need is xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs and xqt-openoffice.cramfs
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 02, 2005, 11:49:22 pm
when can these be available?  So far, xqt works fine.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 03, 2005, 02:37:01 am
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when can these be available?  So far, xqt works fine.
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when I get home I guess. not sure when that will be. my boss is thinking of making me stay here for another week
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 03, 2005, 11:22:20 am
meanie...

the automounter works fine but i discovered a sad problem

it does not allow the sharprom to restore properly.  severe crash!

i tried this with a current install or a clean flash

same on cacko.  I went back from cacko cuz i thought cacko might be having issues with backup restore but not sure.  I was not testing on it that much.  but i know its the automounter for sure on sharprom.  probably related to sudo but who knows.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: GadgetGuy on November 03, 2005, 11:35:32 am
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meanie...

the automounter works fine but i discovered a sad problem

it does not allow the sharprom to restore properly.  severe crash!

i tried this with a current install or a clean flash

same on cacko.  I went back from cacko cuz i thought cacko might be having issues with backup restore but not sure.  I was not testing on it that much.  but i know its the automounter for sure on sharprom.  probably related to sudo but who knows.
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I also had a problem with the automounter on Cacko. After installing it, the external USB memory stick I use did not work anymore. Removing automounter did not solve the issue -  I had to reflash Cacko. Now everything works again...

Cresho: I had some initial problems with backup/restore on Cacko ( see my post in the Cxx00 general forum ) - but the last 3 times the backup went fine...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 03, 2005, 05:56:45 pm
actually, you will need to turn off automounter by runnning

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/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stopbefore doing any backup or restore operations.

you can then turn it back on by running

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/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop start
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 03, 2005, 06:50:41 pm
And here i go again@!!!!

salivating in reinstalling the xqt packages  

thanks for the update.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 03, 2005, 08:17:21 pm
this did not work so i had to check the devices by typing mount between each session to see how it behaved.  so you need to su instead.

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su
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stop
before doing any backup or restore operations.



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su
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop start
to turn it back on by running


this works perfect.  I tested it and its fabulous.  Very happy man!

just to give you a heads up meanie.
-automount works perfect without needing to do any commands.  i can eject and all and i see no problems at all.
-need to su before applying those commands.

  now to make abiword work and ill post the errors as i go.  just need a few libraries i know i seen them somewere. now the / works but im not sure which applications screws it up.  ill post my findings another time.  I know my / key dies with one of my apps.



---------------------------

update on getting abiword and gnumeric to work

install
gtk2_2.4.13_arm.ipk
glib2_2.4.7_arm.ipk

search for them in google.

this will get abiword to work also posted by meanie on his website.  These files will give you a corrupted install error but they work fine.  Ignore this error, click ok-wait a minute or 2 and finish installing.  after if you want to uninstall, you need to unmount the crams images from mount because the installer gives you an error " something went wrong."  One thing that bothered me is, for the life of me i can't remember what i did, i started gnumeric once and was missing a library.  The real case here is i had to re-run ./xqt-install.sh again to relink that missing particular library which was libgnomeui-2.so.0 just reinstalling fixed the broken link.

abiword opens up and works just fine.
gnumeric works just fine as well.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 04, 2005, 06:35:18 pm
problem fixed


do not use sudo_1.6.3p7-2_arm.ipk  cuz this one locks up when suspend


sudo_0.1_arm.ipk   this version works fine

use this one    


this is the old post
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I just discovered a new problem Meanie-

My device locks up badly and i am not sure if its related to bluez.

suspend resume and suspend resume bluez.

when i uninstall these files including the extra bluez stuff, my zaurus does not lock up.  When i reinstall, it locks up in suspend and i need to do a hardreset to get my zaurus working again.

Any ideas?  i exhausted all my resources.  This is related to the automounter.

i was at my job last night after installing bluez since i was getting my zaurus running again with a fresh install.  I closed the lid thinking it was fine and when i tried relogging this morning, my zaurus was dead.  I thought i bricked it but i decided to place it on the charger.  NO light came on and after a few minutes, it began to charge.  its fine now but the lock up severely sucked the battery dry.

everything is almost perfect but.....man if its not one thing, its another.

everything works like eject sd and all and remounting and even the swap file works.  This is just a new bug needs to fish out.
-----------------------------------------------------


and here is the final product running.  I took down some icons because i am not using the other applications at the moment.

[img]http://www.zaurusthemes.org/oddpics/scrn013.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 07, 2005, 05:32:36 pm
I would like to thank Meanie for the work on the cramfs package, this is exactly what I wanted to run these type of programs. So far everything looks good. It's cool to add some functionality in something that will, eventually, be relatively easy to install.

This is some notes from the installation. I am running a Sharp SL-6000L with the standard Sharp ROM:

A)  Right now, the packages at http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/ (http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/) seem out of date? They are only for October 23rd and lack the split packages. Or maybe that is all that is out right now.

 I ran into the same installation problem mentioned here regarding libjpeg.so.62, and because I failed to read ahead, I forgot to correct it after running the app install. :/ Fortunately pure-ftp worked after the reboot so I could FTP in as root and replace the file, avoiding the reflash.

C) The /etc/fstab method that was used by the app installation script for some reason did not work on bootup. The Zaurus was giving a message that it wasn't recognizing the /usr/mnt.rom/ paths. I'm suspecting how the fstab is handled may be different for the C series. For now what I've done is modify the mntpython script that got dumped into /etc/rc.d/init.d/ to also mount the X/Qt cramfs images using the mount command. (The mntpython script comes from the Python cramfs image posted here. (http://pyqplayer.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/bin/view/Main/PyqPlayerDownload))

D) The following apps did not work on the SL-6000L at least with my configuration: Abiword and Minimo (missing: g_type_class_add_private while loading libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0); XChat and Thunderbird (missing: g_type_class_add_private when loading libpangoft2-1.0.so.0)

The following apps at least ran  : XMMS, Sypheed, Gimp, Firefox, Dillo, Ethereal. I didn't do much testing on how they worked, but I like what I see so far.

E) For the SL-6000L, the screen is upside down in rotated (640x480) mode, and the coordinates for tapping the stylus are reversed. The interesting thing is, the X/Qt server does not respond to rotation changes. So you actually can start in rotated mode, flip to the standard (480x640) mode, and you have a working 640x480 screen. It's kind of strange.  

Here's a sample of what I mean...

[img]http://www.kcgould.net/temp/xqtzaurus.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

My quest in installing this is to see if Firefox can run Java applets in the browser (as far as I know this is not available on any Qtopia-based browser yet). I'll give it a try tonight.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 07, 2005, 07:02:44 pm
install
gtk2_2.4.13_arm.ipk
glib2_2.4.7_arm.ipk
 to fix abiword and gnumeric and....well thats it

look for it in google.  youll find it off the bat!

meanie is working on openoffice and debian crams.  it will be up soon as me makes them smaller size.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 07, 2005, 08:20:13 pm
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install
gtk2_2.4.13_arm.ipk
glib2_2.4.7_arm.ipk
 to fix abiword and gnumeric and....well thats it

look for it in google.  youll find it off the bat!

meanie is working on openoffice and debian crams.  it will be up soon as me makes them smaller size.
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Cresho,

those packages are actually part of the xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs image so I am not sure why your setup needs to install them separately, but maybe you still had leftovers of those packages from previous installs. Unfortunately, I have found that xqt packages found on the xqt feeds do not uninstall cleanly.


It also appears that the files on the grinder have reverted back to the initial packages instead of the newer ones


I might be able to fix the 6000 rotation problem. I think the 5500 and 6000 require the older x server binary.  What does

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cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep Hardware
return on a 6000 and 5500?

I think all you need is to install xqt-server_0.0.8_arm.ipk instead of the 0.0.9 which the clamshells need.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 07, 2005, 09:00:12 pm
Quote
those packages are actually part of the xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs image so I am not sure why your setup needs to install them separately, but maybe you still had leftovers of those packages from previous installs. Unfortunately, I have found that xqt packages found on the xqt feeds do not uninstall cleanly.


well!  I am not sure why but when i ran it from the rxvt terminal, it gaved me missing file errors and i search for them on the net.  I should of searched for them before i installed those files on my z.  the packages i stated had the files i needed to run abiword and gnumeric.  They run fine now.  Ill reconfirm this again on a clean slate.  Right now i have my hands full.  another time i was getting an error for a different file.  executing the xqt-install.sh reinitialized the missing file and so far, i have no expirience in seeing that missing file.

i hope somebody can help me confirm this.  Could be a  corrupt download on my part as well or a bad zaurus image i have on my pda.  if you read up, soundwave(sl-6000 which is not made for) was having problems as well with libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0  so i just posted it just incase.  Ill wait for the next crams images.  For now, all i care is using gimp to modify my jpeg pictures i have when "im on the go!"  I use textmaker for my doc and etc files.  I hope to use openoffice since im in a transition between windows to linux.  anyway man....the work here is very appreciated. and abiword works fine with the ipk i installed.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 07, 2005, 10:07:06 pm
cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep Hardware returns:

Hardware: SHARP Tosa

If anyone could confirm that the two libraries mentioned is a problem on the C series as well, perhaps this would help. Myself I thought it was just a couple of libraries that for whatever reason were incompatible with the SL-6000.

Unfortunately, Java applets doesn't run on Firefox even in this. I guess it will be this way from what I'm seeing until the Debian package is finished? I've managed to get to my Java applet by downloading the page from my PC and running the evm -appletviewer function, but I was hoping a way could be made that wasn't such a pain in the butt. Ah, well. Still neat.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 07, 2005, 10:37:33 pm
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cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep Hardware returns:

Hardware: SHARP Tosa

If anyone could confirm that the two libraries mentioned is a problem on the C series as well, perhaps this would help. Myself I thought it was just a couple of libraries that for whatever reason were incompatible with the SL-6000.

Unfortunately, Java applets doesn't run on Firefox even in this. I guess it will be this way from what I'm seeing until the Debian package is finished? I've managed to get to my Java applet by downloading the page from my PC and running the evm -appletviewer function, but I was hoping a way could be made that wasn't such a pain in the butt. Ah, well. Still neat.
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Actually, the java cramfs gives you the full jre 1.3.1 plus compiler but the java plugin is missing
not sure whether the debian version of jre includes the java plugin. I will have to check and if it does, then there is a possibility to use it.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 07, 2005, 10:45:30 pm
If nothing else, it looks like Debian versions of Konqueror and Opera don't need the java plugin. I was thinking that would be worth a look if no plugin was there.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 07, 2005, 10:53:56 pm
Quote
Quote
those packages are actually part of the xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs image so I am not sure why your setup needs to install them separately, but maybe you still had leftovers of those packages from previous installs. Unfortunately, I have found that xqt packages found on the xqt feeds do not uninstall cleanly.


well!  I am not sure why but when i ran it from the rxvt terminal, it gaved me missing file errors and i search for them on the net.  I should of searched for them before i installed those files on my z.  the packages i stated had the files i needed to run abiword and gnumeric.  They run fine now.  Ill reconfirm this again on a clean slate.  Right now i have my hands full.  another time i was getting an error for a different file.  executing the xqt-install.sh reinitialized the missing file and so far, i have no expirience in seeing that missing file.

i hope somebody can help me confirm this.  Could be a  corrupt download on my part as well or a bad zaurus image i have on my pda.  if you read up, soundwave(sl-6000 which is not made for) was having problems as well with libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0  so i just posted it just incase.  Ill wait for the next crams images.  For now, all i care is using gimp to modify my jpeg pictures i have when "im on the go!"  I use textmaker for my doc and etc files.  I hope to use openoffice since im in a transition between windows to linux.  anyway man....the work here is very appreciated. and abiword works fine with the ipk i installed.
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well, just to set your expectations right so you won't get disappointed, openoffice is quite slow to load, similar to firefox and thunderbird performance which is why I included sylpheed, dillo, abiword and gnumeric in my package as an alternative to mozilla and openoffice.
i initially was thrilled to be able to run mozilla and openoffice, but then the load time put me off a bit and i resorted to the alternatives which run much faster, although with less features. so what I do now is to use the alternatives if i need to do something quickly and use openoffice and mozilla if i need the fullblown features. i do get all my documents in staroffice format so i have to use openoffice to open them, but most of the time i just convert the document to doc format and use abiword to modify them.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 20, 2005, 08:18:44 pm
ok, I updated some of the cramfs  images and created some new ones ...

updated xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs to add compatability for older models (should work for 6000 and 5500 as well now) and you can switch between blackbox and evilwm window managers by editing /etc/X11/defaultvm. fluxbox will be added soon.

no changes to xqt-apps.cramfs and xqt-mozilla.cramfs

updated java.cramfs to add a few extra jdk tools.

added xqt-openoffice.cramfs which allows you to run openoffice from xqt without having to install pocketworkstation. it uses my custom minideb embedded chroot environment.

don't forget to use the latest install script.

details can be found at  http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 21, 2005, 10:46:25 pm
Gona do a full test on this soon.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on November 22, 2005, 11:46:44 am
i have just installed the great cramfs image
really thx
great work meanie!
(it took me a lot of time to install the previous version of xqt jumbo ipk and now only a few second!!)

i have a question related to these images
how can i update them if there is a new version?
just replace a newer version of the cramf image and then run the install scrpit again?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 22, 2005, 05:30:00 pm
Quote
i have just installed the great cramfs image
really thx
great work meanie!
(it took me a lot of time to install the previous version of xqt jumbo ipk and now only a few second!!)

i have a question related to these images
how can i update them if there is a new version?
just replace a newer version of the cramf image and then run the install scrpit again?
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to upgrade the images, all you need is replace the cramfs file (after you have unmounted it) and then mount it again and run the <something>-setup script that is contained on the cramfs.

you will also notice that when you launch the uninstaller gui, you will see the name of the cramfs file listed there. if you uninstall using the gui, then it will remove all the links and the files that got copied to your flash during install.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: marovada on November 22, 2005, 11:02:53 pm
Hi.  I'm new to Zaurus.  I went through the debian install procedure for a C1000 as per this page:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/ind...php?t14056.html (https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t14056.html)

I didn't get any errors.

I can launch X, but all I get is a grey background with the mouse cursor.  Even if I specify, say "xlauncher open office", I get a grey background, but the mouse cursor is now an arrow rather than an "X".

I get no fancy background or menu or task bar  

This is very frustrating.  What am I doing wrong?

Gary
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 23, 2005, 12:33:42 am
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Hi.  I'm new to Zaurus.  I went through the debian install procedure for a C1000 as per this page:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/ind...php?t14056.html (https://www.oesf.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t14056.html)

I didn't get any errors.

I can launch X, but all I get is a grey background with the mouse cursor.  Even if I specify, say "xlauncher open office", I get a grey background, but the mouse cursor is now an arrow rather than an "X".

I get no fancy background or menu or task bar   

This is very frustrating.  What am I doing wrong?

Gary
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you didn't install sudo
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: marovada on November 23, 2005, 02:00:45 am
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you didn't install sudo
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Thanks for responding so quickly.

Unfortunately this is going to reveal more of my ignorance, but what is sudo and how do you install it?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 23, 2005, 06:58:28 pm
I installed the new CRAMFS images. From the old images, unfortunately the biggest problem I got is that somehow the X/Qt icon is not appearing in the menu window of my Sharp Zaurus SL-6000L. This kind of makes it useless as the screen will only occasionally show up as the foreground window, and even then once you tap out, you've lost the window forever. Any ideas on getting the icon back?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: marovada on November 23, 2005, 06:59:09 pm
Ok.  I figured out what sudo is, installed it and set: zaurus ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

I then typed: sudo xlauncher debian.

I get a grey screen with an "X" mouse cursor which then changes to a blue screen with an arrow for the mouse cursor.  A console (I think xtern) then launches.  That's all I get.

Is is possible that the taskbar for debian is out of view?

Gary
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: marovada on November 23, 2005, 07:04:53 pm
Sorry everyone - I've found that if I use the x icons in Qt, debian will launch.  So, problem solved.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 23, 2005, 09:49:31 pm
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I installed the new CRAMFS images. From the old images, unfortunately the biggest problem I got is that somehow the X/Qt icon is not appearing in the menu window of my Sharp Zaurus SL-6000L. This kind of makes it useless as the screen will only occasionally show up as the foreground window, and even then once you tap out, you've lost the window forever. Any ideas on getting the icon back?
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Could you be a bit more specific since I don't have a 6000, I am getting a bit lost here with your problem. A screenshot would be a nice and easy way of showing what's wrong so I can hopefully fix it for you.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 23, 2005, 10:31:10 pm
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I installed the new CRAMFS images. From the old images, unfortunately the biggest problem I got is that somehow the X/Qt icon is not appearing in the menu window of my Sharp Zaurus SL-6000L. This kind of makes it useless as the screen will only occasionally show up as the foreground window, and even then once you tap out, you've lost the window forever. Any ideas on getting the icon back?
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Could you be a bit more specific since I don't have a 6000, I am getting a bit lost here with your problem. A screenshot would be a nice and easy way of showing what's wrong so I can hopefully fix it for you.
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Well, actually I figured it out. For some reason Xqt.desktop was missing the first line ([Desktop Entry]). Thus no icon was appearing for the window. Weird.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 23, 2005, 11:50:38 pm
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I installed the new CRAMFS images. From the old images, unfortunately the biggest problem I got is that somehow the X/Qt icon is not appearing in the menu window of my Sharp Zaurus SL-6000L. This kind of makes it useless as the screen will only occasionally show up as the foreground window, and even then once you tap out, you've lost the window forever. Any ideas on getting the icon back?
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Could you be a bit more specific since I don't have a 6000, I am getting a bit lost here with your problem. A screenshot would be a nice and easy way of showing what's wrong so I can hopefully fix it for you.
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Well, actually I figured it out. For some reason Xqt.desktop was missing the first line ([Desktop Entry]). Thus no icon was appearing for the window. Weird.
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argh, typo in the setup script. this only affects 6000 and 5x00 models.
as mentioned by soundwave106, you can easily fix it by editing /home/QtPalmtop/apps/XQt/Xqt.desktop and add [Desktop Entry] to the beginning of the file.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 24, 2005, 02:19:52 am
your new automounter locks up the c1000 on a fresh install...anything i can do to eject sd?

when i try the old one, seems to do the same so its more related in unmounring the images first.

any work arounds?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on November 24, 2005, 12:40:12 pm
Hi all

I've just installed the cramfs on my 1g compact flash ext2 formatted

all seems to be ok with acceptable loading speed

openoffice needs 3 minites to load and one more minit to open a new text file or spreedsheet but one loaded it is ok

as i have i c860 after a reboot or ejecting the cf i mount manually from the console the 3 cramfs
xqt; xqt-apps and openoffice and then it works fine

what i would like now is to have a bigger and bold font size on xqt to work confortably (same on cacko)
do you knew guys how to do ??  

cheers
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 24, 2005, 01:20:45 pm
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as i have i c860 after a reboot or ejecting the cf i mount manually from the console the 3 cramfs
xqt; xqt-apps and openoffice and then it works fine
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yeah i got that figured already.  i started unmounting the sucker myself and works fine.  Im having problems running xqt office.  what other file is needed to run.  says i need debian.

another thing.  I couldnt figure out how to remove any of the old files.  So updating was a pain in the butt!  I had to start off fresh.  I am ...how ever as suggested by meanie, rerun new script and leave the old ones alone.  also updating automounter first.

okay--installed over the old install and also new automounter...works fine and also xqt office though it takes a long time to load.  the option of having it is well worth it
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: marovada on November 24, 2005, 10:10:58 pm
Hi again.

For some reason the Qt file explorer can't write to the sd card (with ext2) on which debian is installed.  It told me to check that the sd card wasn't "locked" - and it isn't.

Thanks
Gary
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on November 25, 2005, 09:46:36 am
HI ALL

Meanie

1-can upload the ipk of xqt-openoffice (without installing debian) for those who prefer to use the xqt jumbo ipk packs instead of the cramfs

2-on more question is from which ipks have you made the cramfs of gqview,grisbi,gnumeric.. ??


cause as i have problems of mounting and unmouting the cramfs so i prefer to use the ipk jumbo packages

THKS

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 26, 2005, 06:13:21 am
The cramfs and ipk packages can be mixed, so you do not have to install only ipks or only the cramfs images. You can for example install the ipk of xqt-gtk-jumbo and mix it with xqt-apps.cramfs, or install xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs and install individual ipks for the x applications. However, the xqt-openoffice.cramfs is too big to be made into an ipk.

I have updated the xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs and this is now how it looks like:
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on November 27, 2005, 09:09:23 am
Hi Meanie

I am traying to install the new release of xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs

but i can't execute ./xqt-setup
i have this prompt on the console

#bash: ./xqt-setup: cannot execute binary file  

on the first release it executes without problem !!!!!  

any idea  

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on November 27, 2005, 11:13:32 am
hi meanie,
is there a gcc cramf image? i see this in your website, but i cant find it to download
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on November 27, 2005, 11:31:03 am
off topic, what is that 4th applet icon over? the double arrow.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on November 27, 2005, 01:07:22 pm
How do I send function keys?  I have the c860 xmodmap in use, but I am unable to with xev to find F8 for example.

I built vncviewer for X/qt and it works great, but I need F8 to exit full screen mode.

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 27, 2005, 11:11:04 pm
cannot install  xqt gtk jumbo crams file.  When i run xqt install, it reffers to

warning: ambiguous entry for xqt-gtk-jumbo.crams found in /etc/fstab

goes on and does not install.

this is in a fresh install by the way.

using all the files at bam's site.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 28, 2005, 12:59:56 am
woah, so many questions

freebird: you can use xfontsel to change the font. you can launch it from a terminal or if you are using the latest xqt jumbo cramfs image, it is also available from the fluxbox menu, btw, the cramfs images do not need to be installed to ext2, vfat or ext2/ext3 is ok. details on the cramfs packages can be found at http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html)

marovada: you need to start qt explorer with root priviledges. the zaurus user does not have priviledges to create things on ext2 filesystem by default unless you chown all the files to zaurus user.

terryleung83: the gcc cramfs can be found at http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/stuff/ (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/stuff/)

bam: which icon are you talking bout? too many of them on that screen

datajerk: F8 is keycode 102 I believe.  you could for example change the line
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keycode   1 = Escapeto
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keycode   1 = Escape F8 F8which changes the Esc key to be F8 if pressed with Shift or Fn key

cresho: this was intentionally. you need to clean your /etc/fstab entries. the xqt cramfs images used to mount to /home but the new installer now mounts them on /mnt but it doesn't clean up the /etc/fstab which needs to be done manually. just unmount all the images and then remove the entries in /etc/fstab and try running the installer again.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on November 28, 2005, 02:48:08 am
Hi all

Meanie

1- If i want to install the cramfs images to /home can i use the first version of xqt-install.sh with the new xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs

2- In fact my gaol is to mount the  xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs then copy xqt-gtk-jumbo directory to  /home
 then to run xqt-setup from it (in other words to install xqt directly in the flash memory to avoid problems of mounting the cf)
I did it with the first xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs and it works,
but with the new release i have this prompt when trying to run ./xqt-setup from /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo directory:

 #bash: ./xqt-setup: cannot execute binary file

 what this prompt mean ????


thanks for your great help  

Cheers

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on November 28, 2005, 07:42:00 am
I had the same problem with the cannot execute binary file.  It is because the shell file you download from meanie's site is a gz file.  It was easy to "decompress" following instructions from googling.  After that I also found you had to use the "cd" command to have the terminal pointing to the directory where you want to install.  Otherwise, the shell does not find the installation problems.

2nd nature to anyone who uses linux daily.  A refresher course for the rest of us.  Good luck.  




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Hi all

Meanie

1- If i want to install the cramfs images to /home can i use the first version of xqt-install.sh with the new xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs

2- In fact my gaol is to mount the  xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs then copy xqt-gtk-jumbo directory to  /home
 then to run xqt-setup from it (in other words to install xqt directly in the flash memory to avoid problems of mounting the cf)
I did it with the first xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs and it works,
but with the new release i have this prompt when trying to run ./xqt-setup from /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo directory:

 #bash: ./xqt-setup: cannot execute binary file

 what this prompt mean ????


thanks for your great help  

Cheers

Freebird
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Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 28, 2005, 09:50:23 pm
I did a nand restore from a japanese sharprom.  I cannot install xqt.  still with the same problem.  I have automounter 4.5, sudo, zlib...

Does not work at all.  everything installs but.....the crams image gtk.

If i start off from the very first crams image you did and install.sh, works fine

but for newcomers, this isnt going to work since i downloaded everything fresh from bams site.  I always restart fresh and keep a working progress available incase it doesnt work.

this case, its not working at all.  i also noticed that the gtk crams jumbo is 12.7 mb big.....i think.  original was more than that.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 28, 2005, 10:48:33 pm
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I did a nand restore from a japanese sharprom.  I cannot install xqt.  still with the same problem.  I have automounter 4.5, sudo, zlib...

Does not work at all.  everything installs but.....the crams image gtk.

If i start off from the very first crams image you did and install.sh, works fine

but for newcomers, this isnt going to work since i downloaded everything fresh from bams site.  I always restart fresh and keep a working progress available incase it doesnt work.

this case, its not working at all.  i also noticed that the gtk crams jumbo is 12.7 mb big.....i think.  original was more than that.
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that's not the right size. seems like the file is corrupted
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on November 28, 2005, 11:04:28 pm
yeah...thats what i thought!!!

Lets get this thing workin!!

ill check bams site on occasions till its up again.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: poorman on November 29, 2005, 04:57:14 pm
Hello Meanie,

I also have problems with xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramsf file.
I downloaded it and used unzip on my desktop (UnZip 5.52 from debian unstable) for extraction. Unzip didn't complain at all. However after I mount cramfs image I can see that xqt-setup is corrupted, i.e. it contains only 0x0 chars. The same can be said about lot of other files included in this package. Some other files are OK. It seems that cramfs zip file is corrupted somewhere in the middle. It's also possbile that my unzip is not able to handle it correctly. Thus I want to ask you. Could you check original file and publish its MD5 sum? I was not able to find it.

I downloaded file from http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/xqt-g...umbo.cramfs.zip (http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs.zip) twice. Both files have following MD5 sum.

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bdd3f359e1ad50cf4503e9ccfac3ae3c  xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs.zip
I downloaded also other cramfs images and scripts. They are working well. MD5SUMs are below.

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63e912995c89f857576780df48dd7ae2  xqt-apps.cramfs.zip
e77dc872abd41a0d13cc2dbc48068c5f  xqt-cleanup.zip
c56e138b292a5785b0bc2325926d769d  xqt-install.sh.zip
49eea238d0005df251aab1c8eccd759d  xqt-mozilla.cramfs.zip
094280fe05f924aa7c7d2617f5ff0cb0  xqt-openoffice.cramfs.zip

I tried also your .ipk package of xqt (i.e. xqt-gtk-jumbopack_0.4.3-0.7_arm.zip - BTW zip is bigger than included ipk package). I was able to install it on SD card (on SL6000 tosa) and xserver was working well(I got blackbox running with terminal).

Nice work! I didn't thought I will be running Xserver on sharp rom. Hopefully we'll find what's wrong with jumbo-cramfs file soon.

Cheers, PM
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 29, 2005, 05:19:17 pm
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yeah...thats what i thought!!!

Lets get this thing workin!!

ill check bams site on occasions till its up again.
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guys, the xqt-gtk jumbo file is corrupted. please don't try to download it until the problem is rectified. it may however take some time to fix since bam is hosting the files for me and I am travelling around again (well, I am travelling around every week) and uploading files to bam's ftp server from an internet cafe isn't so easy around here.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 30, 2005, 12:46:29 am
The versions of the cramfs files I got didn't seem corrupted, so maybe you can pick them up from my site in the mean time, until the official site with them gets back in place.

XQT Cramfs files (http://www.kcgould.net/temp/xqt/)

I only have the apps, mozilla, and gtk-jumbo files.

Hope this can help some of you out until Meanie gets the regular site back in action.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: poorman on November 30, 2005, 10:22:30 am
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The versions of the cramfs files I got didn't seem corrupted, so maybe you can pick them up from my site in the mean time, until the official site with them gets back in place.

XQT Cramfs files (http://www.kcgould.net/temp/xqt/)

I only have the apps, mozilla, and gtk-jumbo files.

Hope this can help some of you out until Meanie gets the regular site back in action.
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Hi soundwave106!

Thanks for your cramfs image. I can confirm that your is working fine for me. There is also new package available on Meanie's site but it isn't working again (it has the same size as yours but it's still broken).

So correct file size is 17398837 bytes.

MD5SUMs follows:
working file from soundwave106's page:
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dff38e395485d1de9146433a05b6f4e2  xqt-gtk-jumbo.zip
broken file from Meanie's page downloaded 2005-11-30 8:30 CET (GMT +1)
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885d475872348ce2a5f1498d0153b09d  xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs.zip
Thank you guys! PM
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on November 30, 2005, 06:25:49 pm
soundwave106: What version of the xtq-gtk jumbo do you have installed? You can find out by executing the version script which is located in the same location as the xqt-setup.
Check whether it is 0.7.2 (previous version) or 0.7.3 (latest version)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on November 30, 2005, 10:57:40 pm
my sites files are ok now I take it? Anyone try?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: soundwave106 on November 30, 2005, 11:40:29 pm
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soundwave106: What version of the xtq-gtk jumbo do you have installed? You can find out by executing the version script which is located in the same location as the xqt-setup.
Check whether it is 0.7.2 (previous version) or 0.7.3 (latest version)
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The version I uploaded to my site is 0.7.2. If Bam's got the latest version on his site, I'll go ahead and delete the files out of mine (unless you want me to grab the files Bam has got and put it on my site for backup).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on December 01, 2005, 12:17:59 pm
Meanie, what do I use for x-devel?  I have been using the x-devel from xqt .9, but now that I run jumbo, I'd like the most recent for building apps.

Thanks.

BTW, xqt apps that I have built that also work with jumbo-xqt (1.9 xqt)

http://sense.net/zc/x48/ (http://sense.net/zc/x48/)
http://sense.net/zc/go/ (http://sense.net/zc/go/)
http://sense.net/zc/gnuplot/ (http://sense.net/zc/gnuplot/)
http://sense.net/zc/bochs/ (http://sense.net/zc/bochs/)
http://sense.net/zc/vncviewer/ (http://sense.net/zc/vncviewer/) (no ipk yet, khctl must be disabled, make sure you have F8 mapped or -xrm and change the F8 key).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 01, 2005, 02:08:09 pm
gona try out your files man




MeaniE!!!!

openoffice crams zip file is damaged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 02, 2005, 03:28:34 am
Hi all
Cresho
I have downloaded the openoffice cramfs before the release of the xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs 0.7.3, it is not dammaged, and i think it is the same so may be you have to download it again , or download it from soundwave106 and then chek md5sum
for me it works

Cheers  
freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 02, 2005, 06:36:11 am
Hi all

Bam
1- the xqt-gtk-jumbo cramfs you uploaded is the old version :0.7.2 it is not the 0.7.3
I have installed it and tested it

2- but the xqt-install.sh is the new one: it mounts to /mnt instead of home directory

so waiting the 0.7.3 version  

Cheers
freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on December 02, 2005, 12:56:58 pm
hi meainie
when i use ethereal to capture packet
it say that either permission not enoguh or the interface is invalid(i set the interface to eth0 which is used as i am using symbol wifi card)
when i set it run by root permission in the qt desktop
it cannot start!

anyway that i can overcome that?

(platform:c3k sharp rom 1.1 and 18a kernal)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on December 02, 2005, 01:59:10 pm
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hi meainie
when i use ethereal to capture packet
it say that either permission not enoguh or the interface is invalid(i set the interface to eth0 which is used as i am using symbol wifi card)
when i set it run by root permission in the qt desktop
it cannot start!

anyway that i can overcome that?

(platform:c3k sharp rom 1.1 and 18a kernal)
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Open an xterm, type:

su -
export DISPLAY=:0.0
ethereal &
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on December 02, 2005, 06:31:18 pm
I just updated:

http://sense.net/zc/x48/ (http://sense.net/zc/x48/)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on December 03, 2005, 03:14:08 am
the point is , it dont  seems that there are any terminal in the xqt app cramf image(am i right?)...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 03, 2005, 05:24:31 pm
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the point is , it dont  seems that there are any terminal in the xqt app cramf image(am i right?)...
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rxvt aliased to xterm comes with the xqt-gtk jumbo pack so you should have a terminal.

just type
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xlauncher xterm from the console,

and from within the xterm, type
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sudo ethereal or just su and then launch ethereal
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on December 03, 2005, 11:20:17 pm
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the point is , it dont  seems that there are any terminal in the xqt app cramf image(am i right?)...
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rxvt aliased to xterm comes with the xqt-gtk jumbo pack so you should have a terminal.

just type
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xlauncher xterm from the console,

and from within the xterm, type
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sudo ethereal or just su and then launch ethereal
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thx that's great
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on December 04, 2005, 01:52:22 am
ok seems I have a present in my upload directory, will zip it and have it availiable in 12hrs or so
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on December 04, 2005, 01:53:24 am
you know if Meanie would zip it first I could set up a cron job to move the files to the public folder:)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 04, 2005, 01:59:07 am
i'll fix it so you can launch it straight from the icon in the next update of the xqt-apps cramfs.

in the meantime, i am trying to decide what else to add to the xqt-apps cramfs.
maybe some of datajerk's compiled apps if he doesn't mind.

x48 looks good, and xqt-bochs can be bundled preconfigured with FreeDOS. win98 loads much quicker on xqt-bochs as well, but that I cannot bundle for obvious reasons.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on December 04, 2005, 02:39:44 am
uploading latest from Meanie, will be about 10 minutes or so. I will have a cron job automatically move the files from the upload area to the feed(its not really but you get the idea) from now on that way if I am gone its business as usual

Thanks Meanie
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 04, 2005, 03:32:37 am
add an ftp software.  very needed

also...  .openofficecramsimage is damaged
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on December 04, 2005, 10:37:39 am
I didnt upload openoffice just gtk-apps and the install script
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 04, 2005, 10:44:47 am
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The Z by default only has 2 loop devices. The script in my automounter package creates additional loop devices which allows you to have up to 7 loop devices.

I have created a xqtmega.cramfs bundle which contains all four cramfs images in one big cramfs image (98MB). However, I am having problems uploading it due to bandwidth restrictions on my site

There is a also a xqt-cleanup script which takes a brute force approach to cleaning up left over xqt files. If the xqt-install.sh doesnt work because of previous xqt components being installed, try the xqt-cleanup first before reflashing. it may save you some time

As for auto mounting and unmounting the cramfs files from SD or CF on insert and remove, you can modify /etc/sdcontrol or /etc/pcmcia/ide and add the appropriate mount and unmount commands to the appropriate eject and insert section

eg:

Code: [Select]
insert

 Â   sdctrl insert $SOCKET
 Â   if [ -f /mnt/card/xtq/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs ]; then
 Â       mount -o loop /mnt/card/xqt/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo
 Â   fi
;;


eject)
 Â   if [ `mount|grep loop|grep xqt-gtk-jumbo` != "" ]; then
 Â       umount /home/xqt-gtk-jumbo
 Â   fi
 Â  ....

The above is just a simple illustration. of course you need to mount each of the cramfs images you have and unmount them as well. I might write a script that you can call from within sdcontrol to simplify things...


Have a look at http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/jumbo/xqtjumbo.html) for more info about XQT jumbo
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Hello All

I have just installed the new xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs version 0.7.3
and installed the xqt-apps.cramfs version 0.2 all works fine mounted on /mnt

exept that I DON'T HAVE THE ICONS ON XQT DESKTOP like on the thumbmail that meanie have posted is it normal or have i to type some scripts meanie ???

- one other point is i want to automount the cramfs on my zc-860, what i have to modify is /etc/sdcontrol or /etc/pcmcia/ide or both of them (for information the cramfs are on my compact flash) ????

any help for a linux newbie    ??

cheers
freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 04, 2005, 02:05:21 pm
It takes a while to load those icons so I decided not to automatically load them. There is a menu item that says DesktopIcons which will activate them.

as for automounting the cramfs on your 860, you will need to modify /etc/pcmcia/ide for the CF card.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on December 04, 2005, 02:20:45 pm
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i'll fix it so you can launch it straight from the icon in the next update of the xqt-apps cramfs.

in the meantime, i am trying to decide what else to add to the xqt-apps cramfs.
maybe some of datajerk's compiled apps if he doesn't mind.

x48 looks good, and xqt-bochs can be bundled preconfigured with FreeDOS. win98 loads much quicker on xqt-bochs as well, but that I cannot bundle for obvious reasons.
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I don't mind.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 04, 2005, 02:36:29 pm
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It takes a while to load those icons so I decided not to automatically load them. There is a menu item that says DesktopIcons which will activate them.

as for automounting the cramfs on your 860, you will need to modify /etc/pcmcia/ide for the CF card.
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Hello Meanie
Thanks for your quick replay  

Now the problem is that the icons (after typing DesktopIcons on the menu) remains always on top, even when an application is launched ; so you imagine the mess
a lot of icons inside abiword for example !!

ok i found it the solution is that we have to type immidiately after: restart on the same menu

for information to have the menu just hold the fn key and type en the screen

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 04, 2005, 05:24:26 pm
When I install it on a FAT32 SD card in an c700 running the most recent CACKO ROM, the installation shell runs showing many files being linked.  But if I click on the start X file or type xlauncher or xqt start x in the console, no response.

Suggestions anyone?

If I need to edit anything or add a script appreciate suggestions how to do it in cacko, thx
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 04, 2005, 08:47:34 pm
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When I install it on a FAT32 SD card in an c700 running the most recent CACKO ROM, the installation shell runs showing many files being linked.  But if I click on the start X file or type xlauncher or xqt start x in the console, no response.

Suggestions anyone?

If I need to edit anything or add a script appreciate suggestions how to do it in cacko, thx
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spaul

maybe you have to install sudo cause it is not included in cacko

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 05, 2005, 02:54:57 pm
I downlaoded the crams images off bams site.  everrything sort of works.  mozilla and thunderbird does not work.  java does nt work.  openoffice does work but wont launch because it states i have permission denied.  any help can do.

the previous version i had no problems launching openoffice and mozilla, thunderbird never workes.  the apps do work though.  i do have a better expirience withthe xqt jumbo crams image.  does not ask for lost libs or anything.
---------------------
update...my bad.

runxqtoo

i was running

runoo

thanks.  openoffice is working like a charm.  takes a good while to load and loads like a charm.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: bam on December 05, 2005, 03:14:44 pm
ok, cron job setup, now whatever Meanie uploads will be in the feed every other hour, so longest delay 2 hours
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 05, 2005, 09:28:11 pm
just an update.

I did another fresh install just to note differences.  I installed everything and was wondering why xqtoo never appeared in the tabs.  I ran ./xqt-install.sh and after a reboot or a update on the tabs manager, it appears.  It wont appear if you install it one time.  Funny thing you need to run installer twice to get this openoffice to be recognized not needing debian.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 06, 2005, 02:57:19 am
Hi all

Now all the cramfs (xqt,xqtapps and openoffice) are installed on my C860 and every thing is ok,

But openoffice takes too much time to load, more than 4 Minutes
So i have uncompressed it and copy it to my cf it takes about 250Mo
than i modified runxqtoo to point directly to openoffice scalc, the result is amazing it needs only 2 minutes 20" to launch all xqt, minideb, openoffice, and spreadsheet !!!

but i think that i have to do some more tweaking may be change some other paths in some other files ??? i don't knew cause some times it launches and some other times it doesn't

my question is

first What do you think about having openoffice as uncompressed files instead of cramfs since memory space is not a problem on sd or cf (prices have go down)

second do you knew what other tweaking i have to do to make it run from cf
without problem

hope some replays  

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 06, 2005, 11:20:49 am
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Hi all

Now all the cramfs (xqt,xqtapps and openoffice) are installed on my C860 and every thing is ok,

But openoffice takes too much time to load, more than 4 Minutes
So i have uncompressed it and copy it to my cf it takes about 250Mo
than i modified runxqtoo to point directly to openoffice scalc, the result is amazing it needs only 2Minutes 20" to launch all xqt minideb openoffice and spreadsheet !!!

but i think that i have to do some more tweaking may be change some other paths in some other files ??? i don't knew cause some times it launches and some other times it doesn't

my question is

first What do you think about having openoffice as uncompressed files instead of cramfs since memory space is not a problem on sd or cf (prices have go down)

second do you knew what other tweaking i have to do to make it run from cf
without problem

hope some replays  

Freebird
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Freebird, if you get a chance could you post a brief "idiots guide" for how you got the cramfs to work on a c860.  I had to resort to the xqt ipk and am curious what I was doing wrong.  Thx and enjoy.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 06, 2005, 12:22:55 pm
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Freebird, if you get a chance could you post a brief "idiots guide" for how you got the cramfs to work on a c860.  I had to resort to the xqt ipk and am curious what I was doing wrong.  Thx and enjoy.
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spaul maybe you need just to mount the cramfs
supposing you have installed xqt-gtk-jumob.cramfs version 0.7.3 dated 04/12/05
try typing this on the console

Code: [Select]
#su
#mount -o loop /mnt/card/YourXqtCramfsDirectoryPath/xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs /mnt/xqt/xqt-gtk-jumbo
then type on the startx icon

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 07, 2005, 05:29:58 am
Quote
Hi all

Now all the cramfs (xqt,xqtapps and openoffice) are installed on my C860 and every thing is ok,

But openoffice takes too much time to load, more than 4 Minutes
So i have uncompressed it and copy it to my cf it takes about 250Mo
than i modified runxqtoo to point directly to openoffice scalc, the result is amazing it needs only 2 minutes 20" to launch all xqt, minideb, openoffice, and spreadsheet !!!

but i think that i have to do some more tweaking may be change some other paths in some other files ??? i don't knew cause some times it launches and some other times it doesn't

my question is

first What do you think about having openoffice as uncompressed files instead of cramfs since memory space is not a problem on sd or cf (prices have go down)

second do you knew what other tweaking i have to do to make it run from cf
without problem

hope some replays  

Freebird
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you should be able to extract the cramfs images to SD/CF or /hdd3 as long as they are formatted as ext2 or ext3
i build them on my ext2 formatted CF card and run them from there directly because it is much faster this way. the cramfs is for people who want to keep their fat partitions and want to conserve space so people with 512MB SD or CF cards can run xqt apps and openoffice from the card directly, but if you do have a larger card and don't mind reformatting it to ext2 or ext3, then extracting the cramfs images to them does run the apps faster, although you will require more space to store the uncompressed files. plus you don't need to worry about mounting and unmounting the cramfs images if the files are uncompressed
there is nothing special that you need to do. i run everything off my 4 GB CF card and it all sits under /mnt/cf/xqt/...
ie

/mnt/cf/xqt/xqt-gtk
/mnt/cf/xqt/xqt-apps
etc..
all you need to do once you extracted them cramfs is to run each of the setup scripts
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: datajerk on December 07, 2005, 10:08:37 am
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i'll fix it so you can launch it straight from the icon in the next update of the xqt-apps cramfs.

in the meantime, i am trying to decide what else to add to the xqt-apps cramfs.
maybe some of datajerk's compiled apps if he doesn't mind.

x48 looks good, and xqt-bochs can be bundled preconfigured with FreeDOS. win98 loads much quicker on xqt-bochs as well, but that I cannot bundle for obvious reasons.
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Faster than what?  How much faster?  I am trying to decide if I should update xqt-bochs.  Is there interest?  Or will most be using SDL bochs?

Thanks.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 08, 2005, 03:07:17 pm
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first What do you think about having openoffice as uncompressed files instead of

you should be able to extract the cramfs images to SD/CF or /hdd3 as long as they are formatted as ext2 or ext3
i build them on my ext2 formatted CF card and run them from there directly because it is much faster this way. the cramfs is for people who want to keep their fat partitions and want to conserve space so people with 512MB SD or CF cards can run xqt apps and openoffice from the card directly, but if you do have a larger card and don't mind reformatting it to ext2 or ext3, then extracting the cramfs images to them does run the apps faster, although you will require more space to store the uncompressed files. plus you don't need to worry about mounting and unmounting the cramfs images if the files are uncompressed
there is nothing special that you need to do. i run everything off my 4 GB CF card and it all sits under /mnt/cf/xqt/...
ie

/mnt/cf/xqt/xqt-gtk
/mnt/cf/xqt/xqt-apps
etc..
all you need to do once you extracted them cramfs is to run each of the setup scripts
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Hi Meanie  

I have just finished installing xqt,xqt-qpps and openoffice after uncompressing the cramfs
first: on a compact flash 1G 80X speed,
then: on an SD card 1G  60X speed
both formatted ext2.
the result was clear :
running from the compact flash it two times faster than from SD Card
to execute openoffice from CF takes 2 Minutes, from SD Card takes 4 minutes

so i will keep openoffice on my CF  

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 08, 2005, 11:47:21 pm
Hey Freebird,

Thanks for the help, SUDO and explaining remounting did the trick for me.  Bluetoothing Dillo to verizon EVDO is so much faster than any so called smart phone.  What a kick.  I was worried because the default fonts and themes looked so dreary but a little bit of tweaking blackbox themes  and dillo / Fluxbox looks as good as PDAXROM equivalents.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 09, 2005, 02:43:47 am
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Hey Freebird,

Thanks for the help, SUDO and explaining remounting did the trick for me.  Bluetoothing Dillo to verizon EVDO is so much faster than any so called smart phone.  What a kick.  I was worried because the default fonts and themes looked so dreary but a little bit of tweaking blackbox themes  and dillo / Fluxbox looks as good as PDAXROM equivalents.
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Hey spaul

i am happy it works for you  
Me too i want to change my xqt fonts can you please tell me how you did that to have similar fonts than pdaxrom ??

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: terryleung83 on December 09, 2005, 08:58:48 am
i 've got an idea on what to be add next
how about j2me cldc
it is in the thread https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...c=16047&hl=j2me (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16047&hl=j2me)
running on pdaxrom and will be good if we can run this as well because there are a lot of games written for mobile phones
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 09, 2005, 12:37:13 pm
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in the meantime, i am trying to decide what else to add to the xqt-apps cramfs.
maybe some of datajerk's compiled apps if he doesn't mind.

x48 looks good, and xqt-bochs can be bundled preconfigured with FreeDOS. win98 loads much quicker on xqt-bochs as well, but that I cannot bundle for obvious reasons.
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Meanie
what about adding Sunclock :a world time with a map
you can find it  in pdaxrom unstable feeds
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for information there is an other world time application  
 It is Time & Travel WorldClock (ttworldclock 0.9)
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it runs on cacko so no need to add it in the cramfs
here is the link
[a href=\"http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=2513]http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=2513[/url]

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 09, 2005, 10:10:52 pm
Freebird,
I'm not sure what got the fonts working because I did not notice it until I surfed off of the home page.  The option GUI is in one of the dillo menus that you get by tapping next to the address box.  When I changed the zoom fxn to 1.2 I think that did it.  
Another possibility is that I changed styles to minimal, the fourth style down in the blackbox menu.  That style has beautiful antialiased fonts.  You get the blackbox menu by shift tapping the screen.  The blackbox menu, from what I google, can easily be customized.

Dillo keeps its configuration info in a file called dillorc, fun to edit, but I don't know where cacko hides it.

Thanks for indirectly reminding me to do a nand backup, now that its working the way I want it.  

Both XFT and PDAXROM would benefit from the same attention to default fonts in applications evident in CACKO.  My middle aged eyes love cacko and struggle otherwise.

If none of this works let me know and I will list the longshots I tried.  Good luck
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 12, 2005, 01:52:40 pm
HI ALL

Now that xqt xqt-apps and openoffice are all installed and all working well

my Goal is to make the fonts looking bigger and Bold to work with confort
and to make it look like pdaxrom

So i started googling
He are the results
for fluxbox it is easy i have just to edit a ligne which is in the theme file i am using:the ligne that is refering to the font size

But the problem is that this change affects only fluxbox menu and title bars
the applications menu fonts are not affected

So i googled again and here are the results

It says that
as the applications are gtk related, we have to look in the gtk default configuration,
and that there is different way for gtk1 and gtk2

-For gtk1: we have to make changes in the ~/gtkrc files
-For gtk2: we have to use gnome-control-center or gtk-theme-switch

Any help guys (Advanced linux users) for a newby

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 12, 2005, 02:52:56 pm
for dillo you can tweak fonts in dillorc which is in home/zaurus/.dillo.   good luck and thx
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: upstart7 on December 12, 2005, 10:35:30 pm
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I downlaoded the crams images off bams site.  everrything sort of works.  mozilla and thunderbird does not work.  java does nt work.  openoffice does work but wont launch because it states i have permission denied.  any help can do.

the previous version i had no problems launching openoffice and mozilla, thunderbird never workes.  the apps do work though.  i do have a better expirience withthe xqt jumbo crams image.  does not ask for lost libs or anything.
---------------------
update...my bad.

runxqtoo

i was running

runoo

thanks.  openoffice is working like a charm.  takes a good while to load and loads like a charm.
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Cresho, can you elaborate on how you fixed/solved the problem, I think I am having a similar problem.

I've installed the xqt-gtk jumbo ver 0.4.6-0.72, I've read .73 is available from bam's site but I wanted to try this first. I've also installed xqt-mozilla 0.1
when I try running firefox, either from the icon in qtopia, or "xlauncher firefox" in the console, it will start up, but when I select the default profile I get this:
"firefox cannot use the profile default because it is in use please choose another profile or create a new one" also I get this at warning from the terminal:
"GDK warning **: locale not supported by C library"

Just some background - I just got my C-1000 from pricejapan, installed Cacko full version 1.23.  I installed the jumbo pack, and mozilla cramfs into my flash memory, I read somewhere this worked if I have 40+megs free which I do.

I pretty sure this a a noob question, but I've scoured the forums, and this post seems closest to my problem.

Thanks meanie  for this great package, I might try the debian distro, after solving a few more problems and tweaks. Thanks in advance.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 12, 2005, 11:19:43 pm
you need to let me know what your problem is to start off.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: upstart7 on December 13, 2005, 10:52:51 am
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you need to let me know what your problem is to start off.
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Sorry... Firefox starts to run, but prompts me to select a profile. when I do, it says the profile is already in use, and quits.  

here is a run down of what works and doesnt work for me (running Cacko 1.23 on C1000). These are the latest files from bam's site.

xqt-gtk-jumbo cramfs package   - Works fine, x11 starts, has it's on tab in qtopia.

xqt-apps.cramfs.zip               - apps work fine, abiword takes a while to load.
                                           -slypheed, if i can configure window size to vga.
                                           - change font size for x11.

xqt-mozilla.cramfs.zip          - NOT working. this is the package I really wanted, but it  
                                            doesnt work for me  


In general after reading this entire thread. I'm seeing alot of the same. It seems alot of us are having problems getting firefox and thunderbird working from the mozilla.cramfs,  But on the other hand, those that go on to install the debian package are meet with success with firefox, and thunderird (assuming they got debian working).

It seems the general concensus is using the cramfs, over the ipk packages is effortless, but not all the cramfs packages works (mozilla broken for me).

So, anyone got firefox and thunderbird working in X/QT WITHOUT installing pocket debian?  I'll like to hear from you.

FYI  - I found that the /etc/fstab had some  wrong paths. I deleted them, and reinstalled xqt-jumbo package with success, In case anyone else has that problem.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 13, 2005, 12:34:24 pm
i just have the xqt, apps, openoffice running.  the rest do not work for me

this is what i do so far

install
----------------------------------------
automounter-c3000_0.4.5_arm
sudo 0.1
zlib 1.2 3-1
qconsole(disable magnifyby holding down with stylus and removing check)


./xqt-install.sh (dec 10th version)



how to use xqt environment
-----------------------------------------------------------
fn stylus right click.....
menu and hit fullscreen for fullscreen



needed commands
-----------------------------------------------------------
unmount before backing up or restoring
mount

always su before

su


to stop processess before backup, do this
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stop

to start up processess
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop start

if you need to eject the sd card,
su then /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stop
then
umount /mnt/card

type mount for status of mounted files.

cd /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/xqt is the location where i have it stored.



also, use a memory manager.  i modifyed maslovskys manager just a bit.  adds swap file to sd.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 13, 2005, 01:40:37 pm
Hi all

spaul
ihave tweaked the dillorc file but it seems that this doesn't affect the menu fonts
it changes only the inside window fonts, thks

Meanie
as i am trying to change the menu fonts of gtk (gnome) applications
here are some informations may be you can help

in the site web below related to the fluxbox documentation
http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq...#gnome-settings (http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq.php#gnome-settings)

 in the FAQ section here is the answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: Gtk2/Gnome2 applications look wired under Fluxbox, but they look ok when gnome is started

A:Run gnome-settings-daemon when Fluxbox starts, eg. put this into your ~/.xinitrc

#load this to have gtk2 apps look ok
GSDPID=`pidof gnome-settings-daemon`
if [  "x$GSDPID" == "x" ]; then
gnome-settings-daemon &
fi

If you don't have gnome installed you can use gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So my questions are

1- is this answer the right one
2-is gnome-settings-daemon installed in the xqt cramfs
3- is gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher installed in the xqt crmafs
4- and finally if no one is installed is it possible to install one of them

      here is the link to gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher
      http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts (http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts)
   
it seems that it exists an debian arm package as in the link below

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gt...eme-switch.html (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gtk-theme-switch.html)

hope these informations can help  

Cheers
freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 13, 2005, 04:48:15 pm
tried out the new sh install(dec 10th version).  it fixes the xqtoo problem.  only java and mozilla crams are not working.  But everthing else works fine.

thanks meanie.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 14, 2005, 12:16:05 pm
Quote
So, anyone got firefox and thunderbird working in X/QT WITHOUT installing pocket debian?  I'll like to hear from you.

Hi upstart7

I have installed xqt-mozilla.cramfs on my c860 both firefox and thunderbird work
without using debian

for info all my cramfs are installed on a compact flash so no need to mount for me

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: upstart7 on December 14, 2005, 04:37:47 pm
Quote
Hi upstart7

I have installed xqt-mozilla.cramfs on my c860 both firefox and thunderbird work
without using debian

for info all my cramfs are installed on a compact flash so no need to mount for me

freebird
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freebird, can you elaborate a bit on what you did.  What I did was copy the jumbo cramfs, and mozilla cramfs to my SD card (FAT files system), along with the xqt-install script.  Then I ran the  install script as su:
Code: [Select]
./xqt-install.sh
 I then proceeded to launch firefox,( the icons appear in Qtopia at this point) from the terminal, as su -

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xlauncher firefox
Is there anything else I need to do? I've read meanie's site, and this entire thread.

I've tried the stock Sharprom, Cacko 1.23 and no luck on my C1000. I've gotten as far as firfox loading, but when I choose "default profile" it says it's in use, and closes.

Mind you, i've gotten the apps cramfs to work, and I've used meanie automounter succesfully also. I uninstalled  the automounter when the Zaurus started not recognizing the SD card when it was in the slot.

This reminds me of my college days running firefox on solaris in the computer labs, I would get a similar error, and what I would do in that case is erase the cache, and temp files. This error was usually becuase I've reached my disk quota. I dont know if it's the same case here. I have plenty (20mg>) left in the internal flash, and in main memory according to the manager I'm fine.

Thanks for the confirmation freebird, and if there is anything else you can add, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: foote on December 15, 2005, 10:32:10 pm
heyas... sorry, i feel like a tool, but i am basically a noob to linux and anything to do with it. i got myself a c3100 about 2 months ago, and i've just been getting sick of the basic functions and wanting more. so i decided to try X/Qt.

i got the jumbo package... tried to run the xpt-install.sh in terminal on Qt, but for some reason it wouldn't let me, so i shutdown Qt and ran it in the basic command. everything was setup fine, i rebooted and restarted Qt and :-( it doesnt want to work. icons, tabs etc are installed, but when i tap Start X it attempts to load, and then nothing happens.

it said on your forums, meanie, that when rebooted, you'll have to re-mount the cramfs. how exactly do i do that? i put the files (X/Qt and the Apps install file) in /hdd3/Documents/XQt/. should i put it somewhere else?

thanks to anyone who can give me hand.... much appreciated.

foote
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 15, 2005, 11:43:05 pm
im putting up my notes.

install--needed files or it will not work
----------------------------------------
automounter-c3000_0.4.5_arm.ipk
sudo_0.1_arm.ipk
zlib_1.2.3-1_arm.ipk
qconsole(disable magnifyby holding down with stylus and removing check)

placed all crams images in /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/xqt
then
cd /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/xqt
then
./xqt-install.sh

fn stylus right click.....
menu and hit fullscreen for fullscreen

unmount before backing up or restoring
mount

always su before
su


to stop processess before backup, do this
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stop
and then you can backup.
to start up processess
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop start
use mount to see the mounted stuff.  
reboot when necessery cuz it leaves a bunch of
virtual drives in the file manager or you can try and unmount

if you need to eject the sd card, su then /etc/rc.d/init.d/mntloop stop then
umount /mnt/card
to remount if you did not reboot, mount /mnt/card
type mount for status of mounted files.

cd /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/xqt is the location where i have it stored.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: foote on December 18, 2005, 08:38:23 am
aye thanks for that. i've got the beast up and running... definately knocks the pants off Qt any day. too bad OO is so slow... no ideas for speeding that up?

cheers mate n thx again.

foote
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 19, 2005, 06:51:20 am
seems like the mozilla cramfs is a bit buggy. I will fix it soon and then firefox and thunderbird will work also.

for all those who have a C3000/C3100/C1000, the automounter package will be able to mount the cramfs images for you automatically after reboot. it might work for other models too, but untested. any volunteers for c8x0/c7x0?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 19, 2005, 01:32:13 pm
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seems like the mozilla cramfs is a bit buggy. I will fix it soon and then firefox and thunderbird will work also.

for all those who have a C3000/C3100/C1000, the automounter package will be able to mount the cramfs images for you automatically after reboot. it might work for other models too, but untested. any volunteers for c8x0/c7x0?
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hello meanie

do you mean a volunteers to test the now existing automounter on a c8xx
or a new one you will release ???

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 19, 2005, 07:23:09 pm
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Quote
seems like the mozilla cramfs is a bit buggy. I will fix it soon and then firefox and thunderbird will work also.

for all those who have a C3000/C3100/C1000, the automounter package will be able to mount the cramfs images for you automatically after reboot. it might work for other models too, but untested. any volunteers for c8x0/c7x0?
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hello meanie

do you mean a volunteers to test the now existing automounter on a c8xx
or a new one you will release ???

freebird
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yes, the existing automounter package.
if it doesnt work, i can make it work with someone testing and providing feedback.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: spaul on December 19, 2005, 07:30:38 pm
The automounter works for me on a c700 FWIW.  My c860 is offf at PriceJapan being fixed by Sharp (I hope).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 20, 2005, 04:16:54 am
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Quote
Quote
seems like the mozilla cramfs is a bit buggy. I will fix it soon and then firefox and thunderbird will work also.

for all those who have a C3000/C3100/C1000, the automounter package will be able to mount the cramfs images for you automatically after reboot. it might work for other models too, but untested. any volunteers for c8x0/c7x0?
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hello meanie

do you mean a volunteers to test the now existing automounter on a c8xx
or a new one you will release ???

freebird
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yes, the existing automounter package.
if it doesnt work, i can make it work with someone testing and providing feedback.
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Hello MEANIE

Ok i will test it on my C860

btw have you read my post,


as you are updating the xqt cramfs
i wonder if you can add a feature for changing the menu fonts of gtk applications
to work with confort i think the best size is 16 or 18 style Bold helvitica

here are some informations may be useful

in the site web below related to the fluxbox documentation
[a href=\"http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq...#gnome-settings]http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq...#gnome-settings[/url]

in the FAQ section here is the answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Question: Gtk2/Gnome2 applications look wired under Fluxbox, but they look ok when gnome is started

Answer:Run gnome-settings-daemon when Fluxbox starts, eg. put this into your ~/.xinitrc

#load this to have gtk2 apps look ok
GSDPID=`pidof gnome-settings-daemon`
if [ "x$GSDPID" == "x" ]; then
gnome-settings-daemon &
fi

If you don't have gnome installed you can use gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So my questions are

1- is this answer the right one
2-is gnome-settings-daemon installed in the xqt cramfs
3- is gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher installed in the xqt crmafs
4- and finally if no one is installed is it possible to install one of them

here is the link to gtk+/gtk2 theme switcher
http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts (http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts)

it seems that it exists an debian arm package as in the link below

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gt...eme-switch.html (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gt...eme-switch.html)

waiting you opinion    

Cheers
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Miami_Bob on December 20, 2005, 07:51:45 am
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Quote
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hmm, my novel is a scifi story and i got my Z initially so i can work on it anywhere i am such as when waiting for food at restaurant so i better get back to doing it
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First novel? Anything published?
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got a few stories published already on some specialty sites.
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So, come ON, man! Don't play coy on us. Spill the beans already on where we can get these stories to read. (G)

SF is one of my main addictions, and I bet that goes for a whole lot of us here!
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 23, 2005, 01:47:22 pm
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in the meantime, i am trying to decide what else to add to the xqt-apps cramfs.
maybe some of datajerk's compiled apps if he doesn't mind.


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Hi all

Meanie
could you add this useful application (i was using under pdaxrom)which is Tuxcards:
the developper described it as follow:
TuxCards is a hierarchical notebook. That was created out of the desire to let my own chaos of papers, notes, and post-it's vanish. Those items are useful but the chaos I produced was not.
Through a friend I got to know CueCards; this is a really nice program that exists for Windows. Since I am using Linux almost permanently, I got the idea to write a similar tool for myself and let every Linux/Unix user share it.
here is a screenshoot
 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
here is the link to the home page
[a href=\"http://www.tuxcards.de/]http://www.tuxcards.de/[/url]
and here is the link to the ipk in pdaxrom
http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/tuxcards_1.1_arm.ipk (http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/tuxcards_1.1_arm.ipk)
or
http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/tuxcards_1.1_armv5tel.ipk (http://www.pdaxrom.org/unstable/tuxcards_1.1_armv5tel.ipk)

i tried to install it  directly on xqt i didn't succes


thanks  

Freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 23, 2005, 01:55:14 pm
there is a working tuxcards with a bunch of applications.....

i installed it to my z and works great!

well--the guys who does the pim applications site is down..ill post it later.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 23, 2005, 02:18:25 pm
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there is a working tuxcards with a bunch of applications.....

i installed it to my z and works great!

well--the guys who does the pim applications site is down..ill post it later.
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Thanks cresho

Waiting your post  

freebird
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on December 23, 2005, 04:45:49 pm
okay....

this is the site.


http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=128966 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=128966)

you need to install




1- Qt331_emb_free_lib_compiled_for_zaurus.tar.gz (extract the file and copy libqte-mt.so.3 to bin in internal or sd....sd needs a symlink from internal.  For this one, if anybody has problems copying this to the bin, or is jack unknowledgable, if the demand is great, ill great ipk.) just email me cresho@earthlink.net  i have no problems copying this file to bin.

or use the commands the creator has posted
su first

Quote
Copy libqte-mt.so.3 to /mnt/card
Goto the systems lib dir.
cd /opt/QtPalmtop/lib
Create a symlink:
ln -s /mnt/card/libqte-mt.so.3

2- TuxCards4z_1.0.0-4z_arm.ipk

extras-
psi4z (is a messenger which means PSI for the zaurus)-not needed
Kcommander is a filebrowser and a gz file compressor as well.-Not needed

post here if you run into problems
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: freebird on December 24, 2005, 06:31:38 am
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okay....

this is the site.


http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=128966 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=128966)

you need to install




1- Qt331_emb_free_lib_compiled_for_zaurus.tar.gz (extract the file and copy libqte-mt.so.3 to bin in internal or sd....sd needs a symlink from internal.  For this one, if anybody has problems copying this to the bin, or is jack unknowledgable, if the demand is great, ill great ipk.) just email me cresho@earthlink.net  i have no problems copying this file to bin.

or use the commands the creator has posted
su first

Quote
Copy libqte-mt.so.3 to /mnt/card
Goto the systems lib dir.
cd /opt/QtPalmtop/lib
Create a symlink:
ln -s /mnt/card/libqte-mt.so.3

2- TuxCards4z_1.0.0-4z_arm.ipk

extras-
psi4z (is a messenger which means PSI for the zaurus)-not needed
Kcommander is a filebrowser and a gz file compressor as well.-Not needed

post here if you run into problems
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Hello cresho

have installed from your link it works fine
thanks  
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on December 28, 2005, 08:32:38 pm
The jumbo xqt-apps and xqt-mozilla cramfs have been updated. see the other thread over in the X/Qt section for details.
I might also do a xqt-games cramfs if I have time but gotta meet two hot women for dinner and show them my Zaurus so I need it in prestine state with everything working...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Miami_Bob on December 29, 2005, 04:05:59 am
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......  but gotta meet two hot women for dinner and show them my Zaurus so I need it in prestine state with everything working.....
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Stop gloating, you old dingo dawg (G).
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on March 31, 2006, 01:02:34 am
Thanks for adding axyftp.  Works great.  I noticed while trying to download and uncompress the debian files, i get some errors.  Any update for these?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: xamindar on March 31, 2006, 02:48:20 am
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The jumbo xqt-apps and xqt-mozilla cramfs have been updated. see the other thread over in the X/Qt section for details.
I might also do a xqt-games cramfs if I have time but gotta meet two hot women for dinner and show them my Zaurus so I need it in prestine state with everything working...
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What other thread are you talking about?  I don't see any recent threads that talk about this.  Did you add gaim?   Thanks for the update.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on March 31, 2006, 05:45:40 am
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Quote
The jumbo xqt-apps and xqt-mozilla cramfs have been updated. see the other thread over in the X/Qt section for details.
I might also do a xqt-games cramfs if I have time but gotta meet two hot women for dinner and show them my Zaurus so I need it in prestine state with everything working...
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What other thread are you talking about?  I don't see any recent threads that talk about this.  Did you add gaim?   Thanks for the update.
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The one I started  [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16209]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16209[/url]

Anyways, I have decided not to update the xqt-gtk jumbo and related cramfs/squashfs images anymore since they are based on old apps.

Instead, I am building a new one which I have named pdaXQtrom. As the name suggests, it is based on pdaXrom using its xqt feed. Initially, I will use the updated version of fluxbox from the pdaXrom feed, but eventually, I will create a wm selector which will allow you to switch between window managers. I am currently thinking of fluxbox, openbox (using the matchbox panels just like pdaXrom), icewm and xfce.

Currently I got the following apps working:

Abiword 2.4
Dillo 0.8.5
Firefox 1.5
Sylpheed 2.0
Thunderbird 1.0.7

and I am planning to add the following:

Gnumeric
Scite
Gimp
TuxPaint
GQview
Xchat
Gaim
StarDict
axyftp/gftp
emelfm2/rox
xmms
xpdf
jamvm

However, the goal is to just create a base image which can use the PackageManager/Qinstaller to install additional apps from the xqt feed so I might not add any more apps at all and leave the choice open...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: daniel3000 on March 31, 2006, 06:33:37 am
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Instead, I am building a new one which I have named pdaXQtrom. As the name suggests, it is based on pdaXrom using its xqt feed. Initially, I will use the updated version of fluxbox from the pdaXrom feed, but eventually, I will create a wm selector which will allow you to switch between window managers. I am currently thinking of fluxbox, openbox (using the matchbox panels just like pdaXrom), icewm and xfce.

Currently I got the following apps working:

Abiword 2.4
Dillo 0.8.5
Firefox 1.5
Sylpheed 2.0
Thunderbird 1.0.7

and I am planning to add the following:

Gnumeric
...

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That sounds great! Let us know once you're finished.
Yesterday I saw that the pdaXrom Gnumeric (cannot recall version) opens my bookkeeping sheet very well. The current X/QT gnumeric version from your cramfs image however imports the XLS in a wrong way so I cannot work with it.

So if gnumeric is your next goal and you want me as a betatester for it, please let me know!

daniel
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: xjqian on March 31, 2006, 08:20:26 am
Hold off your jumbo xqt packages for long. Waiting for your pdaX package.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on March 31, 2006, 11:28:13 am
nice work.  cant....well i could wait.  as it is, the xqt is good.  now we get the best of both worlds.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: ArchiMark on March 31, 2006, 11:58:54 am
Meanie,

As always, you're 'da Man!!!

 


This sounds great!!

 

Look forward to trying this out....

Mar

Quote
Anyways, I have decided not to update the xqt-gtk jumbo and related cramfs/squashfs images anymore since they are based on old apps.

Instead, I am building a new one which I have named pdaXQtrom. As the name suggests, it is based on pdaXrom using its xqt feed. Initially, I will use the updated version of fluxbox from the pdaXrom feed, but eventually, I will create a wm selector which will allow you to switch between window managers. I am currently thinking of fluxbox, openbox (using the matchbox panels just like pdaXrom), icewm and xfce.

Currently I got the following apps working:

Abiword 2.4
Dillo 0.8.5
Firefox 1.5
Sylpheed 2.0
Thunderbird 1.0.7

and I am planning to add the following:

Gnumeric
Scite
Gimp
TuxPaint
GQview
Xchat
Gaim
StarDict
axyftp/gftp
emelfm2/rox
xmms
xpdf
jamvm

However, the goal is to just create a base image which can use the PackageManager/Qinstaller to install additional apps from the xqt feed so I might not add any more apps at all and leave the choice open...
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: xamindar on March 31, 2006, 09:22:16 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
The jumbo xqt-apps and xqt-mozilla cramfs have been updated. see the other thread over in the X/Qt section for details.
I might also do a xqt-games cramfs if I have time but gotta meet two hot women for dinner and show them my Zaurus so I need it in prestine state with everything working...
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What other thread are you talking about?  I don't see any recent threads that talk about this.  Did you add gaim?   Thanks for the update.
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The one I started  [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16209]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16209[/url]

Anyways, I have decided not to update the xqt-gtk jumbo and related cramfs/squashfs images anymore since they are based on old apps.

Instead, I am building a new one which I have named pdaXQtrom. As the name suggests, it is based on pdaXrom using its xqt feed. Initially, I will use the updated version of fluxbox from the pdaXrom feed, but eventually, I will create a wm selector which will allow you to switch between window managers. I am currently thinking of fluxbox, openbox (using the matchbox panels just like pdaXrom), icewm and xfce.

Currently I got the following apps working:

Abiword 2.4
Dillo 0.8.5
Firefox 1.5
Sylpheed 2.0
Thunderbird 1.0.7

and I am planning to add the following:

Gnumeric
Scite
Gimp
TuxPaint
GQview
Xchat
Gaim
StarDict
axyftp/gftp
emelfm2/rox
xmms
xpdf
jamvm

However, the goal is to just create a base image which can use the PackageManager/Qinstaller to install additional apps from the xqt feed so I might not add any more apps at all and leave the choice open...
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Don't forget Grisbi!  But of course, if it is easy to add my own packages then this is no problem.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on August 20, 2006, 05:27:11 am
any updates meanie?  So far, looks good.
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Meanie on August 21, 2006, 07:51:19 am
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any updates meanie?  So far, looks good.
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latest and greatest can be found here:

[a href=\"http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/]http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/[/url]

http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html (http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html)
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: Cresho on August 21, 2006, 01:54:55 pm
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any updates meanie?  So far, looks good.
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latest and greatest can be found here:

[a href=\"http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/]http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/[/url]

http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html (http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html)
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anybody have a go with the tarballs yet vs the cramfs or squash?  which is faster?
Title: Jumbo Xqt Package
Post by: adf on August 21, 2006, 04:09:13 pm
I mix cramfs and squashfs on my 3100/cacko.  in actual use I cn't tell the difference--you'd need to use timers, and I doubt the difference would be much.  I simply seem to have a limit someplace about how many squashfs I can mount with out things misbehaving.