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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: nilch on January 28, 2004, 11:58:01 am
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Seem like the zaurus.com forums have been taken down and the site shows some changes. No, no, no 6000 announcements or pictures yet, but still seems to be different.
The developers Zaurus devnet seems to show \"under construction\" .
Now, how long again is this down-time for ?
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\"whatcu talkin \'bout Willis?\"
I don\'t see any changes to the zaurus.com/dev site, and I\'m also able to get to the devnet forums (zaurus.com/dev/board/) without any issues....
weird
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come-on, it did snow here, but I was wearing my dark glasses and sure didnt get blinded.
I aint gettin dem dam site anymore.
When I type in www.zaurus.com/dev/board (thats the forum right), I get taken to http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/ (http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/) directly.
Now, (a few pinches and a light box to my ear later), I still dont get the forum site at all.
If I click on the developes link, this is where I am redirected
http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/dev/0,2354,,00.html (http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/dev/0,2354,,00.html)
It is just me ?
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Nope, it is not just you. The website says, \"This section is currently under construction. Please check back soon.\"
Something is happening.
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Yep, you\'ve definitely gone mad...
I just cleared my cache, and even tried it in a different browser (boy the devnet board is ugly in netscape!). I was prompted to log in, and it took me to the board...
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The symptoms seem consistent with moving the site to another server and seeing dns changes from old to new. Could I be wrong? I too cannot get to the forum.
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I get the same as nilch.
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I have no problem getting to http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/ (http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/)
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What ip address do you get for www.zaurus.com using nslookup?
I get the following when typing nslookup www.zaurus.com :-
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.zaurus.com
Address: 206.65.179.140
Peter
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I get a different address 66.180.235.229
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STRANGE.
I went to http://www.dnsstuff.com/ (http://www.dnsstuff.com/).
A dns lookup gave me the same address I got with nslookup. When I tried to ping it I got the same address as you and no answer. When I pinged it from my box I the 66.180.235.229 address and it pinged ok.
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Ok, so I put your ip into my browser and still get directed to sharp usa.
What gives? Maybe it\'s just an anti brit thing
My main connection is with ntl.
I get punted to sharp usa via my gprs connection via vodafone as well.
My freeserve gsm connection however points to the dev net boards (very slowy at 9600 baud) ip resolves to 66.180.235.229!
So why can\'t I connect from my pc using http://66.10.235.229/dev (http://66.10.235.229/dev) ?
Peter
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They made some kind of change to there dns listing today.
it\'s in the whois if you do a refresh.
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The page that comes up probably redirects by name and so it takes you to what you dns tells you is zaurus.com
So why can\'t I connect from my pc using http://66.10.235.229/dev (http://66.10.235.229/dev) ?
Peter
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You could manually change your host file
The page that comes up probably redirects by name and so it takes you to what you dns tells you is zaurus.com
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http://66.180.235.229/dev/index.htm (http://66.180.235.229/dev/index.htm) works.
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quote]You could manually change your host file
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Yep that works.
Thanks.
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http://66.180.235.229/dev/index.htm (http://66.180.235.229/dev/index.htm) works.
And so does that
but for how long ......
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http://66.180.235.229/dev/board/ (http://66.180.235.229/dev/board/) works
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http://66.180.235.229/dev/board/ (http://66.180.235.229/dev/board/) works
Actually, I did try that before changing my hosts file, and it didn\'t work, it does now even though I have removed the entry from my hosts file.
Peter.
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In fact now I\'ve put my hosts file back it\'s all broke again.
the direct links bring up the main page, but any sublinks go back to sharpusa.
Adding 66.180.235.229 www.zaurus.com
back into my hosts file fixes it again.
Peter.
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Just as a datapoint, I\'m getting the redirect to www.sharpusa.com/zaurus and the \"Under Construction\" when I click on the Developers section. So, no, nilch, I don\'t think you\'re hallucinating.
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They changed there ip address. It will take a day or two before none of us can get to it. They will probley shut it down befor that. The ip address will work till they shut it down.
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it just changed for me.. .now I\'m getting the under construction page...
I wonder what they\'re doing...
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My guess is they are moving to another server/service provider. The DB for the forum has probably been transferred to the new server and shut off on the old server.
This is just a sloppy move.
it just changed for me.. .now I\'m getting the under construction page...
I wonder what they\'re doing...
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Maybe I should post a \"this site is about to go down!\" message into the general section to give a bit of warning to the few people who can still get on
We have not had a single post from anyone at sharp since spencer left :cry:
It\'s common courtesy to let people who depend on the site for problem resolution know that it will be going down.
I wonder what they\'re doing...
Sometimes I wonder if they even know themselves.
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what I meant was, I wonder if they are doing an overhaul on the site maybe because of a 6000 announcement? Are they preparing it for enteprise support? Maybe getting rid of the developer program altogether?
everything just seems to be so up in the air with sharp since Spencer left... big bummer...
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The verbage on the site does not seem to support the closure of the devnet/forums yet, but the first two scenarios seem logical.
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Yep, you\'ve definitely gone mad... ;)
I just cleared my cache, and even tried it in a different browser (boy the devnet board is ugly in netscape!). I was prompted to log in, and it took me to the board...
I see the emperor\'s new clothes.
Scott
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Actualy I get the same - http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/ (http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/)
It could be a \'Brit\' thing only - however I\'ve spent all day in 2 different companies getting rid of the \"MyDoom\" bloody dam thing on stupid M$ machines, and the whole net has gone barking-mad with virus stuff over here.
Ref: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/35189.html (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/35189.html)
Also sourceforge is unavailable due to this - amongst many other servers.
It may be a coincidence but for the uk net it is a big prob.
However I see that it\'s aimed at SCO - hmmm - reserve comment ;-)
Rgds
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well I\'m in NYC and I was still getting the old 206 IP, but now I\'m home and I\'m getting the proper 66 IP. I wonder if my work was caching IPs and just hadn\'t caught on.
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what I meant was, I wonder if they are doing an overhaul on the site maybe because of a 6000 announcement? Are they preparing it for enteprise support? Maybe getting rid of the developer program altogether?
everything just seems to be so up in the air with sharp since Spencer left... big bummer...
Surely as a moderator they keep you updated with \'what\'s going on\' ??????????
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what I meant was, I wonder if they are doing an overhaul on the site maybe because of a 6000 announcement? Are they preparing it for enteprise support? Maybe getting rid of the developer program altogether?
everything just seems to be so up in the air with sharp since Spencer left... big bummer...
Surely as a moderator they keep you updated with \'what\'s going on\' ??????????
actually no... back when spencer was there, he was good about communicating and bouncing things off me... but since his departure... I (and I think everyone) hasn\'t heard anything from Sharp.
besides.. I think Spencer brought on moderators to help off-load some of the maintenance/cleanup of the forums... because he was being pulled away from the devnet site (and not supposed to work on it per his mgmt). i don\'t think it was a grand gesture from Sharp to get the developers more involved.
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Hi ofrg
Shocked and amazed - I guess we can only wait and see what happens then.
From past experience it probably means that if the site does get resurrected then all previous posts will be lost yet again.
Thankfully we have this haven ;-)
You might want to put a \"http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/\" link up - if it\'s not there already.
Thanks as always
S
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The DevNet site admin, fusion94, tends to hang out on the #zaurus IRC channel (or at least someone using the same nick anyway and I don\'t know if he\'s still the site admin). He might know what is going on if he is available.
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So, community.zaurus.com does not work from Spain (not found)
cheers
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Looks like the changes have also percolated through to me, at least it says that the site is under construction:
http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/dev/0,2354,,00.html (http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus/dev/0,2354,,00.html)
Si
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It waqs Spencer personally who monitored the boards and to get some load off he assigned few of us as moderators.
He would often send PM\'s to me too to look into things, byt as offroadgeek said, it was just Spencers effort and nothing to do with Sharp.
I doubt (am sure in fact) that Sharp as a company has discounted the value of the forums totally.
And this on-again off-again attitude (vis-a-vis the forums) is really an irritating aspect. They might as well close it down if they have no commitment to it whatsoever. This way, those who rely on the board for help (I have stopped doing that since the last outage), at least are not dissapointed and at a loss totally.
what I meant was, I wonder if they are doing an overhaul on the site maybe because of a 6000 announcement? Are they preparing it for enteprise support? Maybe getting rid of the developer program altogether?
everything just seems to be so up in the air with sharp since Spencer left... big bummer...
Surely as a moderator they keep you updated with \'what\'s going on\' ??????????
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the last post was me...
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I wonder what they are waiting for? I just dropped by the old site and practically nobody is there. Are they transferring the DB now? Knowing my luck they\'re just waiting for me to leave.
This seems so messy.
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Might be a glitch, might be some hope. I just got 2 e-mail that I have replies to topics, but clicking the links takes me to \"under construction\".
Anyone else?
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Well, the good news is that it appears that someone at Sharp may actually be aware that the site exists, and perhaps they are updating it.
The bad news is that typicall of Sharp\'s high-handedness, they didn\'t bother to let anyone know, or post any warning of impending changes to the site.
On a related note, does anyone know if the zaurus-general mailing list is still going? I haven\'t received any mail for weeks now.
Clive
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I sent a test message and this is the bounce:
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<zaurus-general@lists.zaurus.com>
(reason: 550 Host unknown)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 5.1.2 <zaurus-general@lists.zaurus.com>... Host unknown (Name server: lists.zaurus.com: host not found)
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Thank heavens for this forum!
Has anyone tried to download the tkc rom via the kompany\'s website? That link appears to be buggered too.
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Sharp is in the process of moving from an expensive co-location service to something more cost-effective. US management does see the value in having the developer site.
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This information has little weight when we don\'t know who you are?
Sharp is in the process of moving from an expensive co-location service to something more cost-effective. US management does see the value in having the developer site.
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Sharp is in the process of moving from an expensive co-location service to something more cost-effective. US management does see the value in having the developer site.
And ironically they don\'t see the value in good customer relations. They hope to save money on web hosting, yet are prepared to lose what little goodwill they still have.
I can understand Sharp having to bring the web site down. What I can\'t understand is why they just can\'t be bothered to advise their supporters before hand!
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Sharp is in the process of moving from an expensive co-location service to something more cost-effective. US management does see the value in having the developer site.
and that comes from ???
and if this is something someone from Sharp (or connected to Sharp) wants to say to the developer community, how about saying something officially and showing that \"US management does see the value in having the developer site\" in a more open transparent way ?
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I saw the thread here and talked with Sharp. They did convey that they are moving the site and they plan to have it back up within 30 days. (Don\'t shoot the messenger. ) Speaking for myself, I hope they settle on something that will allow them to have better uptime than they have had recently.
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30 days??? :roll:
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Just sounds funny, They should leave the old site up, get the new site going, then redirect the address to the correct IP when new site is up and running, 24 hours max to propogate? Time must have slipped up on them.
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Last I saw, the old site is still up, but I\'m not sure if any new postings would be transferred to the new server.
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I have not been able to get to the old zaurus.com site all day long... it redirects to sharp.com and says it is under construction...
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Did you change your host file to point you to the old IP (66.180.235.229)?
I have not been able to get to the old zaurus.com site all day long... it redirects to sharp.com and says it is under construction...
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you may have to restart your browser or computer for the host file to take effect. That\'s if your using a M$ PC
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Hi Everyone,
I think it\'s best if you no longer rely on the Zaurus DevNet site. I wouldn\'t recommend editing your host file to point to the old server because it may never come back online again. The DevNet is no longer a priority for Sharp. While I was there I tried to keep you all informed because I enjoyed the community, NOT because it was my job responsibility or that my boss told me to. They\'re focusing on other areas and the Z team is extremely thin.
The site may come back in some form or another - possibly a stripped down version with just developer documentation. But I highly doubt it will be a community.
Ok - so to protect myself I\'m going to include the below disclaimer:
**** The above statements do not reflect the opinions of Sharp or its management. These events or statements are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental ****
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Hi Spencer,
Nice to see you, how are you getting along?
Does anyone have a backup of the data in the site. There\'s so much there (not to mention on the zauruszone forum which is also gone) and it would be a shame for it to all vanish Great Library of Alexandria style.
Si
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Likewise I must add my greetings to spencer it has been a while!
Si! I believe someone on this board said that the other board was mirrored somewhere so that info is probably safe... seems ashamed to lose that source of Information, but this seems like a nice place too!
Be Well
DW
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well as Spencer suggested, I have joined up to the ZUG. The question is how do we move the community over here and make this the official community?
Bluedevils/p96gt
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I\'m very sad to hear the direction that Sharp seems to have taken. This community have been such a great one.
If there are something I can add (host) to my web site, than please tell me. I hope that this forum will be the future one, so that we don\'t have to depend on Sharp in the future.
Frank Paul Silye
http://www.theqtopian.net (http://www.theqtopian.net)
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Hello everyone! Greetings from Taipei, Taiwan. I\'m here this week doing some new product scoping for the company I work at. I\'ve taken over the product marketing and management for a software/platform called Nevo (http://www.mynevo.com). Currently it\'s an embedded software solution for the HP iPaqs (Yes, Yes.. I know it\'s Winbl0ze CE .NET - but it\'s been a good move for me) and we\'re going to be expanding the solution relatively soon.
In regards to the community site -
I\'ve been helping my ex-coworker with the backup of data. Even though I\'m not working for Sharp anymore - I do see it as a shame if all the information was lost in the great abyss. My ex-coworker should now have the data available and I\'m sure he\'d be more than glad to allow someone to host it. If you\'re interested in assisting - drop me an email at spencerhuang AT hotmail DOT com. I\'d prefer not to publish his email on the board without his knowledge.
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Hi Spencer! Glad to hear you\'re well. I just emailed you about the hosting... I would love to get my hands on that data and make it available to everyone
Enjoy Taiwan and be well!
Michael
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What gives? Maybe it\'s just an anti brit thing
Well, I\'m in California and have the same problem: http://66.180.235.229/dev (http://66.180.235.229/dev) redirects to http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus (http://www.sharpusa.com/zaurus). I also can\'t access any other sharp-supported sites (community.zaurus.com, docs.zaurus.com, lists.zaurus.com, etc.).
Anyway, it should be back up soon (hopefully), but it would be nice if Sharp warned the public before they do stuff like this...
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wow... I go on a snowboarding trip to Whistler in Canada and I return to such interesting happenings... I had earmarked a few threads on DevNet and was really looking forward to trying to get a few things on my 5500 working. It truly would be a shame to lose all of that info, and I really hope that the data is handed to ofrg to host... any news on this?
btw, Whistler is an amazing place.
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If you change your host file to point to the 66.x.x.x IP, you should still be able to access the old site. Retrieve the info just in case ofrdgeek can\'t get the stuff.
BTW I was born and raised in Vancouver and that whole area is amazing. I live in NYC now.
wow... I go on a snowboarding trip to Whistler in Canada and I return to such interesting happenings... I had earmarked a few threads on DevNet and was really looking forward to trying to get a few things on my 5500 working. It truly would be a shame to lose all of that info, and I really hope that the data is handed to ofrg to host... any news on this?
btw, Whistler is an amazing place.
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That Guest message above was from me-
good call, bluedevils. I read the previous threads in more detail and put the entry in my hosts file, so now I\'m in business.
Am I write in assuming that community.zaurus.com is totally unavailable, or would that take a hosts file entry as well?
Next year - as the Whistler trip is an annual trip for the guys that I went with - I will check out Vancouver as well. The city looked amazing and I\'m sure that it\'s a lot of fun.
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As hinted in the last post, what is the IP address for community.zaurus.com?
Thanks.
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you\'ll find it on the first or second page of this thread
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I can connect OK to 66.180.235.229 for www.zaurus.com but not to any downloads that are located at community.zaurus.com. I didn\'t see that anyone had posted the IP adddress to the download location. Is it completely unavailable or is there another IP address that works?
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Hi Spencer, nice to see you again. Good luck to you in your ventures
and thanks once again for your still active interest in the zaurus community and in helping to preserve all the information we gleaned thru the forums.
I think now in hindsight I can say that maybe without you at least, the whole vibrant Zaurus community would not have built up. Not that is has gained a volume, it seems to be able to take care of itself, good. But credits and cheers to you for staring and maintaining the Zaurus.com forums.
(also silent thanks to the previous first zauruszone forum maintainer - who was it I forget).
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guessing that the community server was on the same network, I found the community site at http://66.180.235.230 (http://66.180.235.230)
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That IP address works - thanks again, bluedevils.
So, in summary, the following should be added to your hosts file to get to the old devnet and community sites:
66.180.235.229 www.zaurus.com
66.180.235.230 community.zaurus.com
For winblows users, that\'s at ROOT DIR:/WINNT/System32/drivers/etc/
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Excellent, although didn\'t fusion94 say that the old servers were getting packed up at some point? Does anyone know what the IP address of docs.zaurus.com was/is? I don\'t think it was on the same subnet. We could do with grabbing all the downloads while the servers are still online.
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Excellent, although didn\'t fusion94 say that the old servers were getting packed up at some point? Does anyone know what the IP address of docs.zaurus.com was/is? I don\'t think it was on the same subnet. We could do with grabbing all the downloads while the servers are still online.
I had already grabbed all the files at docs.zaurususergroup.com/feed/ and put them on the zug server at zaurususergroup.com/feed/
are there any other files stored on the docs site?
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I had already grabbed all the files at docs.zaurususergroup.com/feed/ and put them on the zug server at zaurususergroup.com/feed/
are there any other files stored on the docs site?
Yes, there are all the ones referenced in the howtos you copied from docs.zaurus.com, such as the RPMs for the cross compiler and some source code examples. They are all listed here:
http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php...ename=Downloads (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Downloads)
(There\'s also the dev-arm-* shell scripts too, but I guess loads of people have those)
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crap... I forgot about those. has anyone been able to find out which IP address the docs site is at? if so, I can grab them and update the how-to page on our site.
bwt - I got an email from a guy at Sharp about hosting the devnet.. he should be calling me soon If he does call, I will ask him for the ip address!
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try: http://66.180.235.233 (http://66.180.235.233)
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bluedevils - thanks! I\'ve grabbed all the files from /downloads. I just need to move them to my Z and head over to starbucks to upload them to the zug server (can\'t do too much thru the firewall at work )
I\'ll update the links on our how-to page as well
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...(also silent thanks to the previous first zauruszone forum maintainer - who was it I forget).
The creator of zauruszone was, if I remember correctly, Jason Perlow.
Yz
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the files files have been uploaded to the zug server and I\'ve updated the links (and tested them!).
whew... another section preserved
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Nice one offroadgreek. Now to update the other Howtos that came from docs.zaurus.com...
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A few downloads are missing. There\'s quite a few more files at http://66.180.235.233/downloads (http://66.180.235.233/downloads)
Also has anyone mirrored the Community site yet? There could be quite a few useful packages up there but the maintainer may no longer be around. You can fairly easily grab all the files by using the following URL:
http://66.180.235.230/download.php/X (http://66.180.235.230/download.php/X)
Where X is 1 to however many files are on the Community site (may be 500 or more)
e.g.
http://66.180.235.230/download.php/1 (http://66.180.235.230/download.php/1) returns 5500v310OSpack.zip
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A few downloads are missing. There\'s quite a few more files athttp://66.180.235.233/downloads
I got everything... (wget -r) I\'ve updated most, if not all the how-tos on the ZUG...
If I missed any links... anyone can update them... just remember:
http://docs.zaurus.com/ (http://docs.zaurus.com/) = http://www.zaurususergroup.com/downloads/docs/ (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/downloads/docs/)
Also has anyone mirrored the Community site yet? There could be quite a few useful packages up there but the maintainer may no longer be around. You can fairly easily grab all the files by using the following URL:
http://66.180.235.230/download.php/X (http://66.180.235.230/download.php/X)
Where X is 1 to however many files are on the Community site (may be 500 or more)
e.g.
http://66.180.235.230/download.php/1 (http://66.180.235.230/download.php/1) returns 5500v310OSpack.zip
I\'m working on that now
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ok... we now have full mirrors of both the devnet board and the community site.
you can access the mirrors via the links in the ZUG menu (on the left)
a couple things to note:
- the devnet board is mirrored on the zug server... so it should be fast
- the community site is mirrored on my home server (via dsl)... because of all the files to download
if you\'ve modified your /etc/hosts file with the IPs of the devnet and community sites, and you try to log in or post to the devnet mirror, you will actually be re-directed to the original zaurus.com/dev/board site and you WILL be able to log in and post.
if you haven\'t modified your /etc/hosts file, then it will just re-direct you to the sharpusa site, and will effectively be a read only mirror.
enjoy and let me know if you have any comments/feedback
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almost forgot... does anyone know where the old zauruszone site is at now? (ip address?)
thanks
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ok... we now have full mirrors of both the devnet board and the community site.
you can access the mirrors via the links in the ZUG menu (on the left)
@offroadgeek
This is great news...
So much valuable info saved
Thanks
Greg
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offroadgeek:
From your note about the host file, I\'m guessing that posting is enabled on the devnet mirror? If so, I\'m wondering if that\'s a good idea. It adds to the problem of having too many forums to search through/post to for (new) information/help. Also, if Sharp ever happens to bring devnet back, allowing posts on the mirror would essentially create a fork of the forum.
Of course, if posting is _not_ enabled, please kindly disregard this post ()
- ashikase
anpachi, gifu, japan
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no, posting is not enabled... what I was trying to say was that if you have changed your hosts file with the two sharp IPs, then if you try to login or post to the forum, you will be re-directed to the *real* devnet forum, where you will be able to login and post (because that forum is connected to the mysql db).
so the mirror forum is read-only
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Thanks for salvaging this info!
I tried the search function and it sent me to the Sharp site. Same thing happens if I try change the time period shown for a particular forum and then press the \"Go\" button.
I just got a PM from a gentleman this morning looking for PDFs and other documentation on using Java on the Zaurus. All of my copies are on paper. Would the docs.zaurus.com section be something that you could also mirror?
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Offroadgeek, you are a hero for rescuing that data, especially for those of us who are new.
ok... we now have full mirrors of both the devnet board and the community site.
Not sure how this relates to earlier posts about some missing files, but I found a few links
in the community section that worked off the ip address, but not the mirror.
The download for qpealarmclock, for example.
https://www.oesf.org/commu...k_1.0.8_arm.ipk (https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.230/download.php/271/qpealarmclock_1.0.8_arm.ipk)
Also some docs on project pages, and project home page links on the summary tabs where the name of the homepage link is the project name prepended to .community.zaurus.com. Not sure that the last point to anything that is not accessable through the tabs, but those are all the things I have noticed so far.
Great work, and thanks again.
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Would the docs.zaurus.com section be something that you could also mirror?
all of the docs.zaurus.com stuff was essentially mirrored last october when I put the stuff in our wiki (zaurus how-to docs). All of the files referenced in the docs.zaurus.com site are on the zug server, and I\'ve updated the wiki pages to point to the correct location.
The download for qpealarmclock, for example. https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.2...k_1.0.8_arm.ipk (https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.230/download.php/271/qpealarmclock_1.0.8_arm.ipk)
fixed
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OK, so the devnet board mirror isn\'t yet perfect. I was trying to mirror the site completely without Sharp\'s help. With what we have now, we can at least browse the forums. No searching yet.
Spencer put me in contact with a Sharp rep who seems willing to get me the site data, and hopefully the db as well.
I\'ll keep you all informed of my progress.
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Does that mean that sharp is definitelly closing doors?
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No, they\'re about to release the SL6000. Supposedly DevNet has only gone down because they\'re changing the hosting arrangements to make it cheaper to run.
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I don\'t see any activity at DevNet and don\'t know if this has been posted by someone.
The hosts file on the DevNet server/DNS needs to change to the new IP address. Until Sharp sysadmin does that, modify your local hosts file.
In Windows add this to C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32DRIVERSetchosts
In unix or linux add to /etc/hosts
66.180.235.229 www.zaurus.com
You will be able to login to Zaurus DevNet Forums.
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In Windows add this to C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32DRIVERSetchosts
In unix or linux add to /etc/hosts
66.180.235.229 www.zaurus.com
Is this still working for everyone? For some reason, I haven\'t been able to get to the DevNet Forums this weekend with that in my hosts file. Prior to this weekend, it had been working fine. Can anyone get there?
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I posted on DevNet this morning.
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I don\'t see any activity at DevNet and don\'t know if this has been posted by someone.
The hosts file on the DevNet server/DNS needs to change to the new IP address. Until Sharp sysadmin does that, modify your local hosts file.
In Windows add this to C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32DRIVERSetchosts
In unix or linux add to /etc/hosts
66.180.235.229 www.zaurus.com
You will be able to login to Zaurus DevNet Forums.
oreo - you do realize that this isn\'t news? been said several times before in this very thread...
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I posted on DevNet this morning.
Thanks - I guess it may be where I\'m connecting from, although I could swear that I\'ve reached DevNet from this connection before over the past week or two... I\'ll try again from home tomorrow.
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you do realize that this isn\'t news?
I won\'t mention it again.
Why is there no traffic on DevNet?
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I think it\'s because Sharp temporarily shut down the devnet sites (without really doing so) without any notice to the community. They also haven\'t said anything since the last outage in December and since Spencer left
This wasn\'t an accident on Sharps part, but a deliberate action. We\'re all just disappointed.
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Because most people are now here!
you do realize that this isn\'t news?
I won\'t mention it again.
Why is there no traffic on DevNet?
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And if this site disappears, I\'ll drive the 200 miles north and track ORG down! :wink:
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And if this site disappears, I\'ll drive the 200 miles north and track ORG down! :wink:
why don\'t I just give you my cell number so you don\'t get lost? better yet, if the site goes down, you can call me to let me know!
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It was a dumb joke. :mrgreen:
Like it this site disappeared like DevNet, and I don\'t believe it would. And I\'m sure you know if the site has a problem long before I would. But I\'ll store it in my Zaurus, just in case. :idea:
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Looks like the Dev site is gone for good can\'t get to it through the old IP (66.180.235.229). :cry:
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They may come back, but what good is that going to do? Will anybody trust them again?
Claims of technical difficulties or \"cheaper host\" are bogus, this is Sharp we\'re talking about, not a solo shop running in a garage somewhere.
I doubt many developers will ever trust them again, or use their space to store stuff, only to have them hijack it again, with no advance warning.
Maybe we should start using sourceforge or any stable open source hosting facility?
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I actually stopped thrusting Sharp for quite some time. The first downtime of the devnet website. Now this.
They have a chance to redeem themselves. Release the SL-6000 in Europe, either in Japanese or English. In the latter case, Omiko will have to help me a tad to get a English OS installed on it, but she\'s not bad at computers neither.
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Do you think it would be reasonable to contact all the authors which hosted projects on devnet and offer them to develop their qtopia/opie stuff as part of the handhelds.org (opie) cvs - handhelds.org can also provide mailing lists etc.? I know some authors had sentiments against the Opie team, but this once again may be a chance to have a knowledge transfer and have synergie effects by hosting on the same server / cvs repository.
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Do you think it would be reasonable to contact all the authors which hosted projects on devnet and offer them to develop their qtopia/opie stuff as part of the handhelds.org (opie) cvs - handhelds.org can also provide mailing lists etc.? I know some authors had sentiments against the Opie team, but this once again may be a chance to have a knowledge transfer and have synergie effects by hosting on the same server / cvs repository.
I think contacting most of the authors would be difficult, unless you know their other emails, since most of them used their @users.community.zaurus.com on their project pages.
But if you have their emails, I can\'t see why not. They\'ll either accept the invitation, or go elsewhere.
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wow ............ I missed all the happennings in december and this is like the first time i\'ve been here and posted -- damn i do wish the Devnet was still up ... but .... well ..... most of us are here aren\'t we? This posting was really informative -- and Spencer, if you ever read this -- thanks for posting and giving us some \"unnofficial\" information!
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I still would LOVE to have a true mirror of the site... there were some great instructions on that site that I\'ve wanted to return to many times. I really hope, but doubt, that Sharp will make that info available to offroadgeek at some point. As was said earlier, the way it happened was like the burning of the great libraries of old! Damn Goths!
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I happened across this mirror of docs.zaurus.com recently. I don\'t know if it has everything you\'re looking for.
<http://www.ossh.com/zaurus/mirrors/docs.zaurus.com/ipkg_howto.shtml>
The index page appears to be missing but the entire index is on the left.
I just wget\'ed a copy of it in case it ever disappears.
~ray
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I happened across this mirror of docs.zaurus.com recently. I don\'t know if it has everything you\'re looking for.
<http://www.ossh.com/zaurus/mirrors/docs.zaurus.com/ipkg_howto.shtml>
The index page appears to be missing but the entire index is on the left.
I just wget\'ed a copy of it in case it ever disappears.
~ray
100% of this content (the docs how-tos) were copied (manually by me) to the ZUG How-Tos wiki area here (for the ZUG documentation contest last year). I\'ve even grabbed all the files the links point to and host those files (with updated links) on our server.
The nice thing about this being in the ZUG How-To area is that anyone who is registered with our site can update and modify them! Much better than a static html page.
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Thanks offroadgeek for doing this for everyone!
It\'s a great resource for all.
However, wish I could get some more of last years devnet posts. Especially some of the thread in the development section. There was some really helpful info there.... :?
Think there\'s anyway or a contact at Sharp to get access to some of the last years posts??
Mark
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However, wish I could get some more of last years devnet posts. Especially some of the thread in the development section. There was some really helpful info there.... :?
Think there\'s anyway or a contact at Sharp to get access to some of the last years posts??
Mark
I have a contact at Sharp, and he emailed me once about getting access to the data, and I\'ve emailed him several times... but he hasn\'t yet gotten back to me
I\'m going to try to call him at his office
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100% of this content (the docs how-tos) were copied (manually by me) to the ZUG How-Tos wiki area here (for the ZUG documentation contest last year).
That\'s good to know. I didn\'t realize you had the whole thing (probably because its reformatted).
~ray
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That\'s good to know. I didn\'t realize you had the whole thing (probably because its reformatted).
That\'s great, and it\'s excellent that ORG is all over it, but too bad those ppl at Sharp are totally unconcerned about the fact that most of the posts in the main forums are now lost, as well as the ability to search the forums. I don\'t see any gain in them not sharing that information, as none of it was proprietary and holding it - as it ages and becomes less relevant - is of no value to them.
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re: dev board search. It might be hopeless to get sharp to give out the old database (possibly for fear of privacy issues, since the old database will contain registrants emails, passwords, and private messages).
So it might be worth it to just install a search script on the mirror directory to search it as flat files. This will at least help searching for old posts.
Another alternative (might be very time consuming though) is to write a php import script, to suck in the old posts as ZUG posts. Too much work, I think, so a simple search script looks attractive, something like phpDig, etc.
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thx for offroadgeek and others doing this for us
i\'ve been using docs.zaurus.com for long time
and i cannot lost those files
thx everyone for your effort
i do feel disappointed at Sharp took off the forum without notice
well.. everyone is here now, who cares