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Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 03, 2005, 10:51:33 am
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root@acpzaurus:~# ipkg install irk
Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Collected errors:
Cannot find package irk.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
I copied this from another thread, as there was no answer evident.

Has anyone else come across this. The package is in the OPIE feed, but it will not work either from the package manager or from the command line.

I would welcome your suggestions.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 07, 2005, 10:25:42 am
It will not even download from the site.

Help, would be appreciated.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: grog on July 07, 2005, 01:03:33 pm
I use the irk-zaurus package from the ZUG feed (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/) on my 5600 without problems. HTH
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 07, 2005, 06:40:38 pm
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I use the irk-zaurus package from the ZUG feed (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/) on my 5600 without problems. HTH
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Thank you I will try that one.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 08, 2005, 07:23:27 am
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I use the irk-zaurus package from the ZUG feed (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/) on my 5600 without problems. HTH
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Thank you I will try that one.

Samac
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I now have irk-zaurus_0.11.0_arm.ipk installed, but nothing else is happening, no configuration program, no ability to select keyboard.

I know that it is probably something really simple, but I cannot figure out what I have done wrong.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: grog on July 08, 2005, 11:22:46 am
IIRC I had to reboot to get it to work. After that, an IRK entry with a kangaroo icon appeared in the input selection list (lower left corner, where you select keyboard, handwriting, etc). Assuming you get that far, then select IRK, hit the kangaroo & select Settings to set your Z type. Then just hit the 'on' radio button, line up the keyboard & it works. HTH
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 08, 2005, 01:09:44 pm
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IIRC I had to reboot to get it to work. After that, an IRK entry with a kangaroo icon appeared in the input selection list (lower left corner, where you select keyboard, handwriting, etc). Assuming you get that far, then select IRK, hit the kangaroo & select Settings to set your Z type. Then just hit the 'on' radio button, line up the keyboard & it works. HTH
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OK is that iirc or lirc, if it is iirc you will have to help again as I cannot find it on any feed.

Many thanks again

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: grog on July 08, 2005, 01:17:42 pm
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I apologize for throwing in acronyms. That's not a package name. IIRC = If I Remember Correctly. I should learn that not everybody is as skilled at mangling the english language as I am .

So just try rebooting & see if that helps.
OAO (Over And Out)
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 08, 2005, 02:02:10 pm
Re-booting didn't help, and I am just as capable of mangling the English language. (Note that I used a contraction.)  

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: grog on July 10, 2005, 09:08:44 pm
I'm afraid that's all I did & it worked. Sorry I can't be more help. Maybe somebody else will key in? (HELLO THERE!!) good luck.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: acpkendo on July 11, 2005, 10:53:43 am
Do not use the ipk from the ZUG feed on OZ--none of the packages from external sites I've used have worked on 3.5.3.

The solution had something to do with strange dependency errors and/or the naming of the packages--Mickeyl commented that ipkg was too smart for its own good.  The solution is as follows:

1) download the ipk to the Z (sorry, can't help you as to why it won't download--maybe try downloading to a desktop and transferring)

2) disable all feeds in /etc/ipkg.conf or via the package manager (you needn't erase them, just disable).

3) run ipkg update (or update via the package manager)

4) install the local copy of IRK (ipkg install ./irk-blahblah_0.11.0-r0_arm.ipk, or via the package manager).  With no other dependencies in the database, it should install cleanly.

5) reboot (you can probably just restart Opie, but I haven't had a lot of luck with that).

6) re-enable all the feeds in /etc/ipkg.conf or the package manager

7) update
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 11, 2005, 02:17:28 pm
Hi acpkendo

That seemed to install the package OK, I say seemed because on reboot I got a black screen of death.

Ho hum, not to worry, I will fix it later.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 14, 2005, 05:08:36 pm
I have tried several times to install this package, either to / or sd, and each time I get a black screen. This is easily fixed by ssh'ing in and removing irk.

Could the problem be Hentges 3.5.3 in conjuction with the r21 kernel?

If anyone is running this combination with irk, please let me know.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: acpkendo on July 15, 2005, 04:08:34 pm
This is a problem with the IRK.conf file, that I thought was fixed in the current version.  In any case, the easiest way is to drop out of Opie, install it from the command line, and then copy the /etc/skel/IRK.conf file (I think that's the location) to ~/Settings/

Then you should be golden.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on July 15, 2005, 05:04:40 pm
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This is a problem with the IRK.conf file, that I thought was fixed in the current version.  In any case, the easiest way is to drop out of Opie, install it from the command line, and then copy the /etc/skel/IRK.conf file (I think that's the location) to ~/Settings/

Then you should be golden.
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OK I found IRK.conf in /etc

There was a folder called IRK.conf in ~/Settings/ and it was linked to /media/card/home/root/Settings/IRK.conf/

I deleted the folders, copied /etc/IRK.conf to /media/card/home/root/Settings/IRK.conf then
ln -s /media/....../IRK.conf ~/Settings/IRK.conf

Rebooted and I now have a fully working infra-red keyboard.

Many, Many, Many Thanks.

Samac  
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 13, 2005, 10:02:35 am
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This is a problem with the IRK.conf file, that I thought was fixed in the current version.  In any case, the easiest way is to drop out of Opie, install it from the command line, and then copy the /etc/skel/IRK.conf file (I think that's the location) to ~/Settings/

Then you should be golden.
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OK I found IRK.conf in /etc

There was a folder called IRK.conf in ~/Settings/ and it was linked to /media/card/home/root/Settings/IRK.conf/

I deleted the folders, copied /etc/IRK.conf to /media/card/home/root/Settings/IRK.conf then
ln -s /media/....../IRK.conf ~/Settings/IRK.conf

Rebooted and I now have a fully working infra-red keyboard.

Many, Many, Many Thanks.

Samac  
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Hi there,

I took a look at the ZUG feed and did not even find the irk*.ipk ... much less install it ... ideas?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on August 13, 2005, 05:56:54 pm
Forget the ZUG feed, download the IRK package from here (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie)

then follow the instructions in this thread.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 13, 2005, 06:14:16 pm
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Forget the ZUG feed, download the IRK package from here (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie)

then follow the instructions in this thread.

Samac
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thanks for your help and patience ... trying again ...
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 13, 2005, 06:41:32 pm
Samac, I get the following error when I try to install "irk_0.11-r2_arm.ipk" ...

"Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Collected errors:
Cannot find package irk.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'

I issued "ipkg -d sd --force-depends install irk_0.11-r2_arm.ipk"

What's wrong?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: samac on August 14, 2005, 04:59:42 am
Read the entire thread the answer is there, pay special attention to the threads that acpkendo contributed.

Samac
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 08:46:03 am
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Read the entire thread the answer is there, pay special attention to the threads that acpkendo contributed.

Samac
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Samac, thanks for your note there.

Yes, I have read the entire thread many times and tried the steps outlined by acpkendo as well ...
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Do not use the ipk from the ZUG feed on OZ--none of the packages from external sites I've used have worked on 3.5.3.

The solution had something to do with strange dependency errors and/or the naming of the packages--Mickeyl commented that ipkg was too smart for its own good. The solution is as follows:

1) download the ipk to the Z (sorry, can't help you as to why it won't download--maybe try downloading to a desktop and transferring)

2) disable all feeds in /etc/ipkg.conf or via the package manager (you needn't erase them, just disable).

3) run ipkg update (or update via the package manager)

4) install the local copy of IRK (ipkg install ./irk-blahblah_0.11.0-r0_arm.ipk, or via the package manager). With no other dependencies in the database, it should install cleanly.

5) reboot (you can probably just restart Opie, but I haven't had a lot of luck with that).

6) re-enable all the feeds in /etc/ipkg.conf or the package manager

7) update

It is very apparent that acpkendo's post is the one I had to try as it is about the only instruction there is!   and I have tried it like at least 3 times and hence I reposted asking for help as I keep getting the same error messages.

I am out of ideas how this installation will not even show the input method in the input selection. If there is anyone else with an alternate feed or installation steps that works for Belkin Universal keyboard (IR) with hentges rom oz3.5.3, please advise!

Thanks!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 14, 2005, 09:34:18 am
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I issued "ipkg -d sd --force-depends install irk_0.11-r2_arm.ipk"

What's wrong?
Have you tried to use the irk-belkin_0.11-r1_arm.ipk from the 3.5.3 opie feed?

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 02:36:20 pm
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I issued "ipkg -d sd --force-depends install irk_0.11-r2_arm.ipk"

What's wrong?
Have you tried to use the irk-belkin_0.11-r1_arm.ipk from the 3.5.3 opie feed?

Greg
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I tried both, but I'll give it another shot (again) ...    ... another shot for me is better than admitting defeat! ... oooh ... hentges is doing practically everything I need ... I really hope it works this time ...

btw, does it matter if I have different versions of the IRK builds in my CF or SD card even though I am issuing the right command? Thx!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 02:42:34 pm
Just retried, now the error becomes

"Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Collected errors:
Cannot find package irk-belkin
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'"

How?

btw, when I run "ipkg update" as per acpkendo's post, should be having the wifi card in? I am already running the latest oz3.5.3 and the hentges rom, will "ipkg update" mess things up? I've read some where that ipkg in the hentges rom is already the latest and should not require an update again. What gives?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 14, 2005, 02:59:36 pm
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I am already running the latest oz3.5.3 and the hentges rom, will "ipkg update" mess things up? I've read some where that ipkg in the hentges rom is already the latest and should not require an update again. What gives?
No it won't mess things up, and you have to be connected to the internet to run ipkg update (not to be confused with upgrade!) and you will need all the depends like lirc_0.7.0-r5_collie.ipk from the /machine/collie feed.

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 03:05:44 pm
ok, apparently I did not click on the "update" after disabling each entry in apkg. Now it gives error one, missing dependency on lirc ...

hmmm ... lirc fails to install ... grrr ...
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 14, 2005, 03:19:40 pm
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Now it gives error one, missing dependency on lirc ...
You will also need the lirc-modules_0.7.0-r3_collie.ipk  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 07:40:38 pm
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your time and help.

I just tried installing lirc-modules_0.7.0-r3_collie.ipk and got the following errors:

mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules.postinst returned 1

shall I remove /dev/lirc?

EDIT: I just deleted /dev/lirc and retried ... it still had the status 1 error without the mknod failure... hmmm
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 14, 2005, 09:46:55 pm
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I just tried installing lirc-modules_0.7.0-r3_collie.ipk and got the following errors:

mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules.postinst returned 1

shall I remove /dev/lirc?
No! When I say you 'need' something for it to work... you should check to see if you have it before you try to install it.

OK... I just checked and the Hentges rom comes with lirc and the lirc-modules installed. I followed acpkendo's instructions in this thread like samac said and had no problems installing the irk-belkin ipk. The problem is I don't have a keyboard to check it out... I was just trying to help you make yours work.

I would suggest you clean up the mess you probably have from this (sorry about that) and follow acpkendo's instructions using the irk-belkin ipk.

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 14, 2005, 10:03:49 pm
gee ... I think my system is pretty messed up ... (

should I reinstall?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 15, 2005, 08:42:21 am
Greg, I reinstalled my Z yesterday with hentges rom 64-0 kernel and strangely, on reboot, the lirc and lirc-modules ipkgs are not installed by default on it.

Can you confirm the settings for your system? Thanks! Appreciate your time and help.

If these modules require a different kernel, I am most willingly to try it out. Please let me know. Thanks.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 15, 2005, 12:16:33 pm
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Greg, I reinstalled my Z yesterday with hentges rom 64-0 kernel and strangely, on reboot, the lirc and lirc-modules ipkgs are not installed by default on it.
Just go to your taskbar and see if you can enable irda?

You can check:
/media/card/lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/lirc/lirc_dev.o 'and' lirc_sir.o

and see if they are symlinked to

/lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/lirc/lirc_dev.o 'and' lirc_sir.o

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 15, 2005, 02:31:25 pm
irda can be enabled.  ... checking on the files ... thanks!

EDIT: Yes sir, they are!  ... what next?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 15, 2005, 06:15:17 pm
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... what next?
Now you install the irk-belkin ipk as per the instructions here that acpkendo used:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12428&hl=irk (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12428&hl=irk)

I copied the irk-belkin ipk to my CF-card and disabled the feeds, then did ipkg update  and installed it from the command line.

Remember to enable your feeds and do ipkg update after the installation.  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 16, 2005, 11:18:05 am
I tried doing install using the irk-belkin ipk and got Cannot satisfy dependency on "lirc".

I tried installing "lirc" and it says postinst script returned status 1.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 16, 2005, 11:30:38 am
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I tried doing install using the irk-belkin ipk and got Cannot satisfy dependency on "lirc".

I tried installing "lirc" and it says postinst script returned status 1.
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Snappy, lirc 'is' already installed. Use --force-depends to install the belkin ipk.

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 16, 2005, 10:37:24 pm
Hi Greg, thanks for your time.

Now it says

Configuring irk-belkin
Configuring lirc-modules
mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules.postinst returned 1

what does status 1 mean anyway?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 08:10:12 am
btw, Greg, I just reflashed my Z with Hentges rom 64-0 and sure enough, neither lirc nor lirc-modules are installed. Can you confirm if you really have both modules installed in the default installation? Thanks.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 17, 2005, 08:12:46 am
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Now it says

Configuring irk-belkin
Configuring lirc-modules
mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules.postinst returned 1
I can only assume that however you tried this:
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I tried installing "lirc" and it says postinst script returned status 1.
That you have screwed up the ipkg list? So you must once again follow the instructions in this thread and disable the ipkg feeds and do ipkg update then install the ipk from the command line with --force-depends.  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 08:15:42 am
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Now it says

Configuring irk-belkin
Configuring lirc-modules
mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules.postinst returned 1
I can only assume that however you tried this:
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I tried installing "lirc" and it says postinst script returned status 1.
That you have screwed up the ipkg list? So you must once again follow the instructions in this thread and disable the ipkg feeds and do ipkg update then install the ipk from the command line with --force-depends.  

Greg
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ok, so if I am hearing you right, it means that despite the fact that I did a clean reinstall, and that lirc and lirc-modules are not installed by default in my case (from a clean reinstall), I should go ahead with the ipkg update and install instructions in this thread? If so, I have a clean install right now and would be happy to try it out. Thanks.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 17, 2005, 08:19:06 am
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ok, so if I am hearing you right, it means that despite the fact that I did a clean reinstall, and that lirc and lirc-modules are not installed by default in my case (from a clean reinstall),
What makes you think there not installed?

G
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 08:35:04 am
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ok, so if I am hearing you right, it means that despite the fact that I did a clean reinstall, and that lirc and lirc-modules are not installed by default in my case (from a clean reinstall),
What makes you think there not installed?

G
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Greg, thanks for your speedy reply.

from the default install, /etc/init.d directory does not contain lirc anywhere. If my assumption is not true, let me know and I'll go ahead with a reinstall with the instructions herein again. Thanks.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 08:43:08 am
ok, I a reinstall with the instructions herein. and here's the output:

Installing irk-belkin (0.11-r1) to sd...
Configuring irk-belkin
Configuring lirc-modules
mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules returned status 1
Collected errors:
Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for irk-belkin:
              lirc

This is from a fresh install of hentges rom. Unless I read wrongly, it appears that lirc is not installed in my case and lirc-modules is not installed by default properly as well.

Ideas?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 17, 2005, 11:17:03 am
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ok, I a reinstall with the instructions herein. and here's the output:

Installing irk-belkin (0.11-r1) to sd...
Configuring irk-belkin
Configuring lirc-modules
mknod: /dev/lirc: File exists
postinst script returned status 1
ERROR: lirc-modules returned status 1
Collected errors:
Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for irk-belkin:
              lirc

This is from a fresh install of hentges rom. Unless I read wrongly, it appears that lirc is not installed in my case and lirc-modules is not installed by default properly as well.

Ideas?
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Let's check for:
/etc/init.d/lircd symlinked to /media/card/etc/>?
If it's not there install the lirc_0.7.0-r5_collie.ipk

Check for:
/lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/lirc/lirc_dev.o 'and' lirc_sir.o symlinked to /media/card/lib/>?
If not there install the lirc-modules_0.7.0-r3_collie.ipk

Check for:
/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/libirk.so libirk.so.1 libirk.so.1.0 libirk.so.1.0.0 symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/>?
/etc/lircd.conf symlinked to /media/card/etc/>?
/etc/IRK.conf symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf ?
If not there install the irk-belkin_0.11-r1_arm.ipk 'as per the instructions in this thread'.
Reboot and you should have the Belkin option available like I have. (but no keyboard to check it)

Please fix this... your giving me a headache!  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 12:16:45 pm
Quote from: Greg2,Aug 17 2005, 03:17 PM
Let's check for:
/etc/init.d/lircd symlinked to /media/card/etc/>?
If it's not there install the lirc_0.7.0-r5_collie.ipk
Quote

Checked. Its not there ...

installation gives:

update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/lirc file does not exist

Quote from: Greg2,Aug 17 2005, 03:17 PM
Check for:
/lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/lirc/lirc_dev.o 'and' lirc_sir.o symlinked to /media/card/lib/>?
If not there install the lirc-modules_0.7.0-r3_collie.ipk

Checked. Yes they are there.

Quote from: Greg2,Aug 17 2005, 03:17 PM
Check for:
/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/libirk.so libirk.so.1 libirk.so.1.0 libirk.so.1.0.0 symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/>?
/etc/lircd.conf symlinked to /media/card/etc/>?
/etc/IRK.conf symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf ?
If not there install the irk-belkin_0.11-r1_arm.ipk 'as per the instructions in this thread'.
Reboot and you should have the Belkin option available like I have. (but no keyboard to check it)

Please fix this... your giving me a headache!  

Greg
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Checked. Not there whatsoever. Only the default three:

libqhandwriting.so
libqmultikey.so
libqpickboard.so

I cannot install irk-belkin because it will have the lirc errors as stated earlier.

As you said earlier that lirc and lirc-modules are installed by default in hentges rom, Can you point me to the install rom that you use so that I can just have it by default? The default as I see it from almost 7 times of reflashing, points to that they are not installed by default and attempts to install them fails as well.

I hope to have this fixed too!  ... unfortunately the errors I am encountering are simply incomprehensible. I'm pinging CoreDump to see if he has any insight about having lirc/lirc-modules installed by default in the hentges rom in case I missed out anything.

Meanwhile, appreciate your time and suggestions. Let me know if there is anything else I should try. Thanks!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 17, 2005, 03:06:26 pm
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As you said earlier that lirc and lirc-modules are installed by default in hentges rom, Can you point me to the install rom that you use so that I can just have it by default? The default as I see it from almost 7 times of reflashing, points to that they are not installed by default and attempts to install them fails as well.
I 'think' I'm using the oz-opie-collie_T3-RC-1-EN.tar.gz that was in the 'do not use' folder on the hentges server. It's guessing it's now the T3 in the regular files... I'm not sure if anything would be different involving the lirc-modules? It doesn't really matter now because you have the modules installed.

I know it comes with the opie-irdaapplet, and irda-utils so just go ahead and place the lirc ipk on your CF-card and install using --force-depends. You will still get errors... ignore them and follow the instructions for the belkin ipk. Then check the files and symlinks that I've listed for you, and make sure you have the:
/etc/IRK.conf symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf
before you reboot.

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: CoreDump on August 17, 2005, 04:35:25 pm
FYI:

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cat /etc/hentges.version
Reveals the release of your initrd.bin and cardfs  installation.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 17, 2005, 05:09:19 pm
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cat /etc/hentges.version
Reveals the release of your initrd.bin and cardfs  installation.
root@collie:/# cat /etc/hentges.version [ROM] OZ 3.5.3 / OPIE 1.2.0 ROM Release T3-RC1, [20050723] [CardFS] cardfs-opie-collie for OZ 3.5.3 / OPIE 1.2.0 ROM Release T3-RC1, [20050723]

Thanks  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 05:46:03 pm
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As you said earlier that lirc and lirc-modules are installed by default in hentges rom, Can you point me to the install rom that you use so that I can just have it by default? The default as I see it from almost 7 times of reflashing, points to that they are not installed by default and attempts to install them fails as well.
I 'think' I'm using the oz-opie-collie_T3-RC-1-EN.tar.gz that was in the 'do not use' folder on the hentges server. It's guessing it's now the T3 in the regular files... I'm not sure if anything would be different involving the lirc-modules? It doesn't really matter now because you have the modules installed.

I know it comes with the opie-irdaapplet, and irda-utils so just go ahead and place the lirc ipk on your CF-card and install using --force-depends. You will still get errors... ignore them and follow the instructions for the belkin ipk. Then check the files and symlinks that I've listed for you, and make sure you have the:
/etc/IRK.conf symlinked to /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf
before you reboot.

Greg
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Greg and CoreDump, thanks for your time. Again, I must refer to my earlier post that lirc is *not* present or installed, based on the assumption that if it is installed by default, the lirc node or config file would be present. I'm hoping to hear back from CoreDump on whether lirc and lirc-modules are indeed installed by default.

So, let me get this straight. Despite all the errors I've encountered, I should carry on?   well, actually I did for a few of the install runs and after reboot, I still don't get the input method for the ir keyboards besides the 3 defaults.    

Well ... ... ... I'll retry once again. I'll just reflash my z again. I got so ... that I reflashed my Z with Cacko rom. Not that I am giving up ... yet. I just had to see something else work on my z to have the faith or strength to retry. grrr

EDIT: It was the pdaXrom that I flashed out of frustration ... not that it mattered.  ... ok ... any final words before I flash back to Hentges?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 06:13:17 pm
Just reinstalled hentges...

root@collie:/# cat /etc/hentges.version
[ROM] OZ 3.5.3 / OPIE 1.2.0 ROM Release T3, [20050729]

So we are using "slightly" different rom versions... but nevertheless ... I'll install cardfs now and see how it goes ... (note to self: ignore all all errors ... )
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 17, 2005, 06:32:18 pm
I did exactly as listed and am now waiting to reboot.

I got "Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for irk-belkin:" lirc

Should I continue with the reboot as stated in the steps herein?    

EDIT: I went ahead and reboot, reenabled the feeds and did a ipkg update ... presto ... still no input method for the ir keyboards!  

I give up.

Thanks all for your help.  Really appreciate your time and suggestions.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: acpkendo on August 19, 2005, 11:54:44 am
Snappy,

Sorry to hear about your troubles.  Actually, I am using the Targus keyboard, so it may be that the Belkin model uses lirc.  If you're planning on trying this again, I can suggest a couple things. . .

1. Did you install these packages to the SD card?  Did you run ipkg from the command line?  If so, were you sure to follow it up with ipkg-link (the Package Manager does this for you)?  This would explain why things were not linked properly.

2. The "-force-overwrite" option for ipkg should remove the "file already exists" error (it might be a good idea to back up /dev/lirc first).

Good luck. . .
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 19, 2005, 11:57:38 am
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Snappy,

Sorry to hear about your troubles.  Actually, I am using the Targus keyboard, so it may be that the Belkin model uses lirc.  If you're planning on trying this again, I can suggest a couple things. . .

1. Did you install these packages to the SD card?  Did you run ipkg from the command line?  If so, were you sure to follow it up with ipkg-link (the Package Manager does this for you)?  This would explain why things were not linked properly.

2. The "-force-overwrite" option for ipkg should remove the "file already exists" error (it might be a good idea to back up /dev/lirc first).

Good luck. . .
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Thanks acp! ... I'll "rest" for a week or two ... and maybe (grrr) try again ...  Have a good weekend ahead folks!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 19, 2005, 04:00:22 pm
@Snappy
After reading this in acpkendo's last post (Thanks acpkendo, for bringing this to my attention)
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I am using the Targus keyboard, so it may be that the Belkin model uses lirc.
Here's an ipk I have modified for you (or anyone who would like to test it). I've removed lirc from the depends to prevent all your installation problems. I don't 'think' lirc is needed for this, as it isn't needed for the targus version.

You will still have to copy it to your CF-card and disabled the feeds, then do ipkg update and install it from the command line. You will not need to use --force-depends with this ipk. You will have to symlink:

ipkg-link add irk-belkin

and

ln -s /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf /etc/IRK.conf

Then restart opie.

It's been installed without any problems on a poodle and collie... but I can't check to see if it works without a keyboard.

Edit: ipk has been removed

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 19, 2005, 09:03:08 pm
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@Snappy
After reading this in acpkendo's last post (Thanks acpkendo, for bringing this to my attention)
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I am using the Targus keyboard, so it may be that the Belkin model uses lirc.
Here's an ipk I have modified for you (or anyone who would like to test it). I've removed lirc from the depends to prevent all your installation problems. I don't 'think' lirc is needed for this, as it isn't needed for the targus version.

You will still have to copy it to your CF-card and disabled the feeds, then do ipkg update and install it from the command line. You will not need to use --force-depends with this ipk. You will have to symlink:

ipkg-link add irk-belkin

and

ln -s /media/card/opt/QtPalmtop/etc/skel/IRK.conf /etc/IRK.conf

Then restart opie.

It's been installed without any problems on a poodle and collie... but I can't check to see if it works without a keyboard.

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*gosh* ... thanks!  ... Really appreciate it! :D

*deep breathe* ... Z checked ... ipk downloading ... going to try ...
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 19, 2005, 11:23:03 pm
Hi Greg, just tried ... installed good.  ... restart of opie resulted in hangup. Restarted Z ... -> blackscreen of death!  ...

Seem to be similar to what samac encountered earlier on the thread ...

My hentges is a fresh install. hmmm ... anything I should look out for?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 19, 2005, 11:41:17 pm
hey! It just worked. I uninstalled ... reinstalled ... and before restarting ... went through the  post by samac about copying and linking IRK.conf somewhere ... and poof ... restart ... noticed an error about /home/root/Settings/IRK.conf ... which I manually made a symlink ... I removed that. Restarted ... and IRK appeared with no black screen! hmmm ...

I'll test out with the keyboard now!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 20, 2005, 08:11:54 am
Hmmm ... tried it out ... the PocketTop mode produces some wrong characters while Belkin mode produces nothing when the keyboard is typed. This seems to be like what I encountered previously while trying to install IRK for SHARP ROM until I used a "j" variant of IRK.

The Belkin keyboard I use is F8U1500. How can I extract the IRK.conf from the "j" variant IRK ipkg?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 20, 2005, 09:22:40 am
hmmm ... copied the IRK.conf, libirk.so.1.0.0 file from the j variant over and overwrite the installed files. No go. Now the input method disappeared!

ok, let me redo the installation again and see how it goes.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 20, 2005, 09:39:33 am
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hmmm ... copied the IRK.conf, libirk.so.1.0.0 file from the j variant over and overwrite the installed files. No go. Now the input method disappeared!
Don't use the libirk.so just try the IRK.conf.

Attach the IRK.conf from this j variant or give me the link and I will compare the two. I have a little extra time this morning.
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 20, 2005, 12:53:40 pm
Hi Greg,

Here's the thread that has the j variant.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=3158 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=3158)

Here's the ipkg
http://www.geocities.jp/bakkeo2004/irk-zau....1f_arm.ipk.bin (http://www.geocities.jp/bakkeo2004/irk-zaurus-j_0.11.1f_arm.ipk.bin)

Attached is the IRK.conf.
Thanks for your help!

btw, it also has a different lircd.conf file. Any difference?
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Greg2 on August 20, 2005, 03:30:43 pm
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Attached is the IRK.conf.
Thanks for your help!
Using the resources I have available I can find no problem with the IRK.conf included with the irk-belkin ipk in the 3.5.3 feed. It is identical to the one in the 3.5.2 feed used successfully by MrSquishy with his belkin keyboard. If you are positive that you have the settings correct in the input applet... then I can only assume that lirc is needed for this to work. I have checked the irk-0.11.1 from the 3.5.2 feed and it also depends on lirc.

You now have the option to install lirc and it's modules?

FWIW, CoreDump has noted in another thread that the lirc-modules postinst has been fixed in OE for future releases.  

Greg
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Snappy on August 20, 2005, 07:22:49 pm
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your help.

I guess it was at least worth the shot for me. What I did find is that libirk.so.1.0.0 is different for the j variant and the standard one you made for me. The IRK.conf is also differing.

Point of interest is that in Pocketop mode, Z actually shows keys being typed, just mismapped to some gibberish. This seem to imply that the IRK module is able to access the IRDA port and pick up ir signals from the keyboard, despite mapping it incorrectly.

However, in Belkin mode, it is dead silent.

Looking through IRK.conf leads me to think that it is just for mapping the Shift, Function, Punctuation keys etc ... I cannot seem to find the place where standard/normal key codes are mapped to characters, ie a hardware key code for "a" may be say 25 for a Pocketop but a 76 for a Belkin, and IRK would have to map the keycode 25 to a ASCII 65 for a pocketop but a keycode of 76 to a ASCII 65 for a Belkin.

Anyone knows if

1. this keycode schema exists for IRK and
2. if it exists, is it hardcoded or stored in some configuration file?

For now, I would rather lay off the lirc and its modules as I've went through at least 10 reflashing and several reinstalls but no success.

If craig (I think its craig) who wrote IRK can shed some light here ... it would be great!
Title: Irk - Pockettop Keyboard
Post by: Mjolinor on October 29, 2005, 08:47:47 am
My turn now. I can't get irk to give me a kangaroo no matter what I try. I have tried everything in this thread plus anything that seemed vaguely relevant in the other 13 pages of hits you get from searching for IRK.

It's a 6000l with opie openzaurus 3.5.3. I have tried irk-zaurus_0.11.0_arm.ipk and irk-zaurus_0.10.0_arm.ipk, these two install fine without any error messages that I can see. I have also tried all the irk_X.X.X_ packages that I can find. They seem to have bits missing and don't install.

I have tried it with and without lirc from the 3.5.2 feed as it isn't in the 3.5.3 feed.

I have tried it all ways up from the command line over SSH, from the console having exited opie and from the package manager, with and without the feeds enabled (it is suggested to disable them in this thread during the install process).

I have tried it with and without the irda utils and opie irda applet installed

After install I have IRK.conf in ~Settings but nowhere else. I have tried every combination of copying or linking from and to IRK.conf in /etc, /etc/skel and ~Settings in combination with all of the above, a fairly complex sequence of installs and removes I can tell you .

I have now run out of combinations to try and am getting despondent. Being able to replace my laptop was the main reason for getting the 6000 as I had completely failed in the same way to get irk to work on my Ipaq.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
Are there any other alternatives to irk for the pockettop keyboard?