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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: Chero on July 25, 2005, 04:58:47 am
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Hi,
Just a thread for fine-tuning xfce4, post your tips, tricks and files over here.
I've been playing with xfce4-menu plugin for the panel.
The menu plugin also includes a file browser, and a mount tool.
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The default ipk does only include an empty menu, so I figured out how to make a full one. It's in the attached ipk. (Both "user shortcuts" and "applications")
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I noticed that the panel crashes if there is no file to store "recent-files". I included this file in the ipk too.
Chero.
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nice idea
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Some extra ipkgs :
icon-theme
icon-box
notes plugin
Chero
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For those who are looking for the files :
They are all here (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/) (thanks to ScottYellich)
The base package and a few plugins are located in /old
Chero
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The menu plugin also includes a file browser, and a mount tool.
Chero.
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Chero:
How do you add the mount tool to the panel? I don't see it when I right mouse click on the panel and choose "Add new item"
I'm having similar issues with system load & cpu graph.
Thanks,
Jerry
**Edit**
I found that several of the panel plugins did not have symlinks from the SD. When I installed the various ipks to my SD most of them threw the error "Cannot locate xfce4 on external drives" Not sure if that is related to not making the symlinks during installation. Linking them corrected my problem for system load & cpu graph.
Where is the mount plugin located? I installed the menu ipk above but can't find any associated mount plugins.
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I suppose you installed the ipkgs, right.
Did you quit and restart xfce ?
If this doesn't help, could you kill your panel (from an aterm : killall xfce4-panel)
Then from the same aterm, restart the panel (xfce4-panel &)
What are the error messages ?
When you try to add an item, what are the error messages then ?
BTW : I think there is still something wrong with cpugraph - at least, I don't believe the output on my Z.
Chero.
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I suppose you installed the ipkgs, right.
Did you quit and restart xfce ?
If this doesn't help, could you kill your panel (from an aterm : killall xfce4-panel)
Then from the same aterm, restart the panel (xfce4-panel &)
What are the error messages ?
When you try to add an item, what are the error messages then ?
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I've installed all of the ipks from Scott's feed to my SD (except xffm as I prefer rox), as I mentioned most complained about not finding xfce4.
I'm getting the following error loading the panel from a terminal.
module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/libmenustart.so cannot be opened: libdbh-1.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directorythe libmenustart.so is in the proper directory but I can't find libdbh-1.0 anywhere.
Thanks
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Sorry,
Forgot to add this one.
Chero
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Sorry,
Forgot to add this one.
Chero
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Ok, that fixed it but for some reason ipkg is not creating the symlinks. I had to manually create the symlinks of the libdbh files. Makes me wonder what else isn't linked properly..
I used the following to install your ipkgs ipkg -d sd install /location_of_ipk.ipk
Am I doing something wrong in my installation command?
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Chero:
I found the problem I was having is that the file names do not always match the info in the ipk. When I downloaded the files, most of them had underscores between the words of the ipk for example:
xfce4_cpugraph_plugin ipkg is looking for xfce4-cpugraph-pluginOnce I renamed all of the ipks they installed without the error
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Chero:
I found the problem I was having is that the file names do not always match the info in the ipk. When I downloaded the files, most of them had underscores between the words of the ipk for example:
xfce4_cpugraph_plugin ipkg is looking for xfce4-cpugraph-pluginOnce I renamed all of the ipks they installed without the error
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try to change the ipkgs asap.
Chero.
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er.... I managed to make quite a mess with this.
I had the 2 part xfce installed on / and the plugins I wanted, etc. worked nicely on my 6k.
Seeing the new ipk that should work on sd, I used the package manager (in openbox) to remove all xcfe files listed ad installed.
I then installed the new ipk to sd and installed the ipks from ScottYelich's feed (chero) also to sd.
I booted, and got a blue screen with a task bar. No good.
Tried to install dbh.. wouldn't go anywhere but / (the ipk naming thing, maybe?)
still no good with dbh on /
played with variations on above.
removed all instelled xfce via package manager, installed old 2 part stuff.
Got a blue screen with logo and taskbar... no menus etc.. same as above, though it claims stuff isd loading when it is brought up.
edit. I'm just finding stuff with find and killing it. I'll try the single pacage on sd after a cleanup
uninstalled all xfce via package manager.
I assume there are files the packagemanager didn't get, that are causing the problem. Any idea what those files might be? Any suggestions (other than flash and do it all from a clean install?)
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OK
removed a ton of files, installed the new package and the additional stuff in ScottYelich's feed. I get xfce, taskbar and window manager, no panel. run ipkg-link same result. reboot, xfce on't load-- can't find gconf(2?). and is I recall correctle xfwm, or xfce' ? will wait for updated ipks, i think
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whenever i try to add it to the panel, the panel dies...
any clues?
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Is there anyone can teach me to add the CF SD Beterry monitor to the bar?
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OK
removed a ton of files, installed the new package and the additional stuff in ScottYelich's feed. I get xfce, taskbar and window manager, no panel. run ipkg-link same result. reboot, xfce on't load-- can't find gconf(2?). and is I recall correctle xfwm, or xfce' ? will wait for updated ipks, i think
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There are probably some other libs removed as well (I put some files in the ipkgs that shouldn't have been there).
I believe e.g. libxml2 was included in the two part ipkgs.
You could try to run :
# ipkg upgrade (leave X first, make sure you have a network connection)
The ipk of the base system seems to be fine and isn't likely going to be changed before the next release of xfce4.
Keep us informed,
Chero.
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whenever i try to add it to the panel, the panel dies...
any clues?
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I suppose "it" is the panel-menu-plugin ?
Have you got libxml2 (in the feed) and dhb (attached in this thread) installed ?
Yes, then
after adding and the panel disappearing, in an aterm :
# xfce4-panel &
I had this too when I added "it" first, but this command brought the panel back for me.
Chero.
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Is there anyone can teach me to add the CF SD Beterry monitor to the bar?
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If you want them in the taskbar that comes up at first startup (top of the screen):
right click the screen, from the menu select "battery monitor" (its in accessories)
or whatever matchbox applet you like. They come in the taskbar.
If you want them in the panel :
You should have the systray-plugin installed.
Then you kill the taskbar : # killall xftaskbar4
After this : right click the panel, "add item" and select "systray".
Then select the systray-apps you like from the menu.
For now, You have to select the systray-apps again after leaving xfce4, I'm working on a way to have them started when starting xfce4. (looking where to put them)
Chero.
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Is there anyone can teach me to add the CF SD Beterry monitor to the bar?
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If you want them in the taskbar that comes up at first startup (top of the screen):
right click the screen, from the menu select "battery monitor" (its in accessories)
or whatever matchbox applet you like. They come in the taskbar.
If you want them in the panel :
You should have the systray-plugin installed.
Then you kill the taskbar : # killall xftaskbar4
After this : right click the panel, "add item" and select "systray".
Then select the systray-apps you like from the menu.
For now, You have to select the systray-apps again after leaving xfce4, I'm working on a way to have them started when starting xfce4. (looking where to put them)
Chero.
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thank u Chero!
it works !waiting for a perfect plugin!
I reprot another problem.
everytime the machine change battery.I startxfce4 ,always come out lib link lost .and I can only reinstall xfce4 to solve it!
it is trouble.what do u think about it?
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Is there anyone can teach me to add the CF SD Beterry monitor to the bar?
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If you want them in the taskbar that comes up at first startup (top of the screen):
right click the screen, from the menu select "battery monitor" (its in accessories)
or whatever matchbox applet you like. They come in the taskbar.
If you want them in the panel :
You should have the systray-plugin installed.
Then you kill the taskbar : # killall xftaskbar4
After this : right click the panel, "add item" and select "systray".
Then select the systray-apps you like from the menu.
For now, You have to select the systray-apps again after leaving xfce4, I'm working on a way to have them started when starting xfce4. (looking where to put them)
Chero.
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thank u Chero!
it works !waiting for a perfect plugin!
I reprot another problem.
everytime the machine change battery.I startxfce4 ,always come out lib link lost .and I can only reinstall xfce4 to solve it!
it is trouble.what do u think about it?
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Instead of reinstalling xfce4, try :
# rm -r /home/root/.cache
This removes the files of the session that was running before.
!!! Don't do this while running xfce4 !!!!
Chero.
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Chero:
Couple of questions:
I noticed that the corgi.xmodmap is not getting loaded when I start xfce4. I've added it to the startxfce4 script, but is there a better place to put it?
Also, I still haven't figured out how you got the mount points displaying in your panel? I can browse them using the xfce4 panel menu (although trying to unmount them doesn't seem to work)
Any hints would be appreciated.
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Chero:
Couple of questions:
I noticed that the corgi.xmodmap is not getting loaded when I start xfce4. I've added it to the startxfce4 script, but is there a better place to put it?
Also, I still haven't figured out how you got the mount points displaying in your panel? I can browse them using the xfce4 panel menu (although trying to unmount them doesn't seem to work)
Any hints would be appreciated.
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Isn't the xmodmap in the xinitrc.xfce4 ?
Sorry, can't offer any more help right now, I'm playing to get openoffice working on pdaX. Have to flash about twice a day, have to have as much space as possible, so I don't have xfce (or anything else) installed right now. I will try later.
Maybe scoutme can help us out, I believe he's quite good at xfce.
Chero.
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this is my xfce4 xinit, and the xmodmap is loaded.
Try it - backup yours first.
(in my panel - from the ipk in this thread - the mount voice is clearly visible. You should remove and re-install the ipk)
#!/bin/sh
#
# Very simple session manager for matchbox tools
#
echo "0" >/proc/power_key_off 2>/dev/null
test -f /etc/profile && . /etc/profile
# Uncomment below to enable parsing of debian menu entrys
# export MB_USE_DEB_MENUS=1
if [ ! -d $HOME/Choices/common ]; then
mkdir -p $HOME/Choices/common
fi
if [ -f $HOME/Choices/lightnpower.cfg ]; then
lightnpower.py --loadandquit
fi
if [ -f /usr/bin/gconfd-2 ]; then
/usr/bin/gconfd-2 15 &
fi
MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;;
SL-6000)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap
;;
*)
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'Sharp-Collie' 2>/dev/null >/dev/null && test -f /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap
;;
esac
test -f /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap
test -f /usr/bin/chkhinge && /usr/bin/chkhinge 2>/dev/null >/dev/null
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset s 0
xfce4-session
GCONF2_PID=`pidof gconfd-2`
if [ ! "$GCONF2_PID" = "" ]; then
kill $GCONF2_PID
fi
echo "1" >/proc/power_key_off 2>/dev/null
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Is there anyone can teach me to add the CF SD Beterry monitor to the bar?
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If you want them in the taskbar that comes up at first startup (top of the screen):
right click the screen, from the menu select "battery monitor" (its in accessories)
or whatever matchbox applet you like. They come in the taskbar.
If you want them in the panel :
You should have the systray-plugin installed.
Then you kill the taskbar : # killall xftaskbar4
After this : right click the panel, "add item" and select "systray".
Then select the systray-apps you like from the menu.
For now, You have to select the systray-apps again after leaving xfce4, I'm working on a way to have them started when starting xfce4. (looking where to put them)
Chero.
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thank u Chero!
it works !waiting for a perfect plugin!
I reprot another problem.
everytime the machine change battery.I startxfce4 ,always come out lib link lost .and I can only reinstall xfce4 to solve it!
it is trouble.what do u think about it?
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even I rm the .cache,but it seems nothing been changed!
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I just started using xfce and I must say it's very nice. I am having problems with it finding the xmms and startmenu plugins. I get the same "cannot find libxmms_plugin.so/libmenustart.so" error. I tried converting underscores to dashes and that didn't help.
CPU/Mem monitor, Vol control, and battery load fine in the panel, and will give tooltip readings, but do not display their bars in the panel
Also, if I make attempt to browse for an icon from the"Edit Item" menu, X crashes.
Any ideas? I have already uninstalled/installed all the packages and it's all on the Zaurus, not on SD.
Thanks
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1. How can i launch xfce in landscape mode on my C1K? When i run startxfce4 then xfce running in portrait mode
2. Where i can download libxfcegui4.so?
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1. How can i launch xfce in landscape mode on my C1K? When i run startxfce4 then xfce running in portrait mode
2. Where i can download libxfcegui4.so?
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Igorekk,
I wrote about the rotation problem and fix in XFCE with a C1K here: [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14510]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14510[/url]
Bill
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2. Where i can download libxfcegui4.so?
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It should be included in xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipk
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Hello all,
Look what is finally running in my panel - just on the left of the clock.
Ipkgs will follow ...
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Chero.
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Hello again,
The ipkgs, as promised.
These are the battery-plugin and the clipboard manager plugin for xfce4.
Chero.
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Hello again,
The ipkgs, as promised.
These are the battery-plugin and the clipboard manager plugin for xfce4.
Chero.
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you are a life-saver
the standard one stopped working, for some reason... this one might work
now, off to more pressing system errors...
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The "-" in the filenames seems to change to "_" when uploading files here.
The correct names are :
xfce4-battery-plugin_0.3.0_armv5tel.ipk
xfce4-clipboard-plugin_0.4.1_armv5tel.ipk
(just in case you want to install to SD)
Chero.
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Dear all,
sorry for my stupid, can u show me how to install it step by step??
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Dear all,
sorry for my stupid, can u show me how to install it step by step??
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Did you check your PM ?
step by step :
Download the base file :
[a href=\"http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/old/xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/....2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
install it :
# cd /to/where/you/put/the/file
# ipkg install xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipkThis installed the files in "/", if you want them on SD instead :
# cd /to/where/you/put/the/file
# ipkg -d /mnt/card install xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipk
Make sure you have libxml2 on your system, it's in the feed.
Quit matchbox
from command prompt :
# startxfce4
Now you should be running xfce4
For plugins and additional files, look here :
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero)
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/.../rc10/chero/old (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/old)
For additional info, try to read this threads first :
The making of xfce4 (thread with a bit confusing title) (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12941). It's a quite long thread, but it's worth reading.
Xfce4 on C1000 Howto (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14510)
and this thread, of course.
By the way, what Z are you using.
Chero.
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Wow, this is very nice indeed. Tried a few different desktop managers and Xfce4 by far the best. It really adds to the pdaXrom's laptop feel. Thanks for all the hard work Chero.
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how do you suspend z while running xfce? i use 6000L. thanks in advance.
cheers
/bazmi.
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how do you suspend z while running xfce? i use 6000L. thanks in advance.
cheers
/bazmi.
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There should be a "suspend" inone of the menus...accessories, I think. It worked for me.
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how do you suspend z while running xfce? i use 6000L. thanks in advance.
cheers
/bazmi.
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There should be a "suspend" inone of the menus...accessories, I think. It worked for me.
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When you install the panel-menu-plugin and the files added in the first post of this thread, you'd have it in the menu where you'd expect it to be. (look at the screenshots in the first post.
Note : the correct filename of the ipk containing the menu files is "xfce4-menu-pdax_0.0.1_armv5tel.ipk" (this doesn't contain the plugin)
Chero.
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When you install the panel-menu-plugin and the files added in the first post of this thread, you'd have it in the menu where you'd expect it to be. (look at the screenshots in the first post.
Note : the correct filename of the ipk containing the menu files is "xfce4-menu-pdax_0.0.1_armv5tel.ipk" (this doesn't contain the plugin)
Chero.
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ok, here is the problem - when i install the xfce4-menu-pdax.... the desktop comes up as 'elongated' i.e., i dont see the bar at the bottom. i am using 6000L (default is potrait mode). before installing this ipk, the desktop is ok.
what is the command line for putting zaurus into suspend. i tried 'suspend' but that doesnt seem to work.
help with either of the two above is much appreciated.
cheers
/bazmi.
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When you install the panel-menu-plugin and the files added in the first post of this thread, you'd have it in the menu where you'd expect it to be. (look at the screenshots in the first post.
Note : the correct filename of the ipk containing the menu files is "xfce4-menu-pdax_0.0.1_armv5tel.ipk" (this doesn't contain the plugin)
Chero.
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ok, here is the problem - when i install the xfce4-menu-pdax.... the desktop comes up as 'elongated' i.e., i dont see the bar at the bottom. i am using 6000L (default is potrait mode). before installing this ipk, the desktop is ok.
what is the command line for putting zaurus into suspend. i tried 'suspend' but that doesnt seem to work.
help with either of the two above is much appreciated.
cheers
/bazmi.
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try "xsuspend".
I'll check the xfce4-menu-pdax ipk, I don't remember putting a file in there that says something about the used screen.
Here's what you could do (while xfce is not running):
In your /home/root/.config/xfce4/menustart there's a file called "menu.xml". Copy this file somewhere else.
Then delete the dirs /home/root/.config and /home/root/.cache
Start xfce4 again. The folders .config and .cache will be created again. Add the menu plugin again to the panel. You now have an empty menu.
Then copy the menu.xml again where it should be to get the full menu back. (maybe you should quit xfce to perform this last step)
I never tried it this way, but I guess it will do the trick.
Chero.
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try "xsuspend".
I'll check the xfce4-menu-pdax ipk, I don't remember putting a file in there that says something about the used screen.
Here's what you could do (while xfce is not running):
In your /home/root/.config/xfce4/menustart there's a file called "menu.xml". Copy this file somewhere else.
Then delete the dirs /home/root/.config and /home/root/.cache
Start xfce4 again. The folders .config and .cache will be created again. Add the menu plugin again to the panel. You now have an empty menu.
Then copy the menu.xml again where it should be to get the full menu back. (maybe you should quit xfce to perform this last step)
I never tried it this way, but I guess it will do the trick.
Chero.
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thanks chero. some progress but still not there...
xsuspend works. and that is a __major__ help.
copied menu.xml and then deleted .config & .cache.
xfce4 did start ok.
now the dumb question . how do i _add_ the menu plugin to the panel??
the other thing i did is to change the position of the panel from the bottom to the right of the screen - i get the full panel now. so for sure, on 6000L the size of the panel on the bottom of the screen is such that the ends get cropped unless the size of the panel is changed to small.
cheers
/bazmi.
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copied menu.xml and then deleted .config & .cache.
xfce4 did start ok.
now the dumb question . how do i _add_ the menu plugin to the panel??
the other thing i did is to change the position of the panel from the bottom to the right of the screen - i get the full panel now. so for sure, on 6000L the size of the panel on the bottom of the screen is such that the ends get cropped unless the size of the panel is changed to small.
cheers
/bazmi.
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Right click (fn + screen-tap) on the panel, choose "add new item" and select the panel menu plugin. This is when you installed the plugin first. You can remove items the same way.
BTW : did you already try right click on the desktop, this should give you a menu with all installed apps, including "suspend".
There is a full (but short) manual on www.xfce.org (in the documentation section)
Chero.
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Right click (fn + screen-tap) on the panel, choose "add new item" and select the panel menu plugin. This is when you installed the plugin first. You can remove items the same way.
BTW : did you already try right click on the desktop, this should give you a menu with all installed apps, including "suspend".
There is a full (but short) manual on www.xfce.org (in the documentation section)
Chero.
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adding the xfce-panel-menu just makes the panel disappear altogether (like previously).
but using the right click on desktop does bring the the menu of all apps.
so, despite the missing panel, i can use xfce. thanks
jfyi, right click (at least on my 6000L) is shift+screen tap.
cheers,
/bazmi.
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so, despite the missing panel, i can use xfce. thanks
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# xfce4-panel &
Type this in a terminal to get the panel back. Adding the menu also made my panel disappear, but this brought it back.
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# xfce4-panel &
Type this in a terminal to get the panel back. Adding the menu also made my panel disappear, but this brought it back.
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thanks chero. had figured the same thing. i have the menu back now - didnt copy the menu.xml file, just pointed the menu to pick up the file instead.
one thing i noticed is that rotate causes some problems if the panel is set to autohide and its position is vertical. the panel ends to be towards the middle of the screen in landscape mode. probably a bug already reported...
just saw that rc11 is out but someone reported a bug not recognizing SD on 6000L so i'll just wait a while.
cheers,
/bazmi.
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hello!
ive installed xfce on my rc11 c3100 now with some plugins (panel and menu etc) but i see the normal xfce panel but not the one seen on screenshots in this thread. i am also not able to access the menu and have no 2nd mouse function (fn + mouse-tap).
but else xfce looks really nice and is very smooth.
could someone please help me? where should i install the plugins in and which one are necessary?
thanks
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hello!
ive installed xfce on my rc11 c3100 now with some plugins (panel and menu etc) but i see the normal xfce panel but not the one seen on screenshots in this thread. i am also not able to access the menu and have no 2nd mouse function (fn + mouse-tap).
but else xfce looks really nice and is very smooth.
could someone please help me? where should i install the plugins in and which one are necessary?
thanks
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i dont have any experience with 3100 (cuz i dont have one!) but on my 6000L i have rc11+xfce running just fine. i had some learning curve on getting the panel up on the rc10 and chero helped me out on it. basically:
1. install xfce if you install on SD then you will have to reinstall it on every boot, some link gets broken - so i install now on /
2. install the xfce panel menu plugin (link available in this thread) and other plugins as you need. all xfce stuff i install on / as otherwise i would get unpredictable behaviour.
for me the main trick was to install everything on /
also rc11 fixed some programs that didnt work on rc10 (like kdepim 2.1.17). all in all, xfce and rc11 works well. only thing is that the libstdcxx from the rc10 feed should be installed for most applications to work and install lesstif with -force-depends option as it has a dependency on xfree4.3 whereas rc11 has xfree 4.4
if you install applications from the net then please remember to change the feed that comes as default.
cheers
/bazmi.
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hello!
ive installed xfce on my rc11 c3100 now with some plugins (panel and menu etc) but i see the normal xfce panel but not the one seen on screenshots in this thread. i am also not able to access the menu and have no 2nd mouse function (fn + mouse-tap).
but else xfce looks really nice and is very smooth.
could someone please help me? where should i install the plugins in and which one are necessary?
thanks
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i dont have any experience with 3100 (cuz i dont have one!) but on my 6000L i have rc11+xfce running just fine. i had some learning curve on getting the panel up on the rc10 and chero helped me out on it. basically:
1. install xfce if you install on SD then you will have to reinstall it on every boot, some link gets broken - so i install now on /
2. install the xfce panel menu plugin (link available in this thread) and other plugins as you need. all xfce stuff i install on / as otherwise i would get unpredictable behaviour.
for me the main trick was to install everything on /
also rc11 fixed some programs that didnt work on rc10 (like kdepim 2.1.17). all in all, xfce and rc11 works well. only thing is that the libstdcxx from the rc10 feed should be installed for most applications to work and install lesstif with -force-depends option as it has a dependency on xfree4.3 whereas rc11 has xfree 4.4
if you install applications from the net then please remember to change the feed that comes as default.
cheers
/bazmi.
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thanks for your answer.
i uninstalled xfce now and all the plugins and reinstalled it all to /
then i removed /.config and /.cache
then i exited matchbox and started xfce but again the normal xfce panel and taskbar appeared but not the panel like in the screenshots posted in this thread by chero (look [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=904]here[/url]). also i have no second mouse tap (it should be fn + screen tap)
what should i do?
thanks in advance!
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thanks for your answer.
i uninstalled xfce now and all the plugins and reinstalled it all to /
then i removed /.config and /.cache
then i exited matchbox and started xfce but again the normal xfce panel and taskbar appeared but not the panel like in the screenshots posted in this thread by chero (look here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=904)). also i have no second mouse tap (it should be fn + screen tap)
what should i do?
thanks in advance!
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1. try shift+screen tap for the second mouse click. it works for me. Fn+screen tap doesnt work.
2. the panel in the screen shot is modified by adding some plugins and re-organizing. from what i can see, the screenshot has panel-menu, battery and system load plugins. to make the panel look like the one in the screenshot:
a) download all the required plugins (link somewhere in this forum, lemme know if you cant find it) and install them.
do a right click on the empty area of menu (shift+tap), you will get a pop up which will have a 'add item' choice, select it and it opens a window with a list of plugins installed. select the one you want and repeat the procedure for all the plugins you want to add.
c) experiment to rearrange the menu as you like.
hope this helps.
cheers
/bazmi.
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oh thank you... ive already installed all the plugins but didnt know this about add item etc.
ill try it now.
thanx anyway
EDIT:
when i do a right click i have a menu with:
Workspace 1
Workspace 2
Workspace 3
Workspace 4
Add Workspace
Remove Workspace
EDIT 2:
lol you know what right click is here? you won't belive it
Shift + Fn + tap
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when i do a right click i have a menu with:
Workspace 1
Workspace 2
Workspace 3
Workspace 4
Add Workspace
Remove Workspace
this is the middle click menu
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when i do a right click i have a menu with:
Workspace 1
Workspace 2
Workspace 3
Workspace 4
Add Workspace
Remove Workspace
EDIT 2:
lol you know what right click is here? you won't belive it
Shift + Fn + tap
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this is really strange . i hope there is only one rc11/xfce out there!!!
i tried right clicking on any area of the panel and i still get an 'add item' in the menu which lets me add plugins. cant figure out how you are getting the 'add workspace' . try some other area of the panel.
good luck!
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this is really strange . i hope there is only one rc11/xfce out there!!!
i tried right clicking on any area of the panel and i still get an 'add item' in the menu which lets me add plugins. cant figure out how you are getting the 'add workspace' . try some other area of the panel.
good luck!
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It's the menu you get when you middle-click on the desktop (shift-tap on my C860).
Right and middle click are configurable in 'input setup' utility.
I don't know where they are saved, but I do know the startxfce4 and xinitrc.xfce4 are based on the original startx and xintrc that were in RC9. CXX00 wasn't in the original files and therefore not in my scripts. (it chooses between CXX0 and 6000).
If someone could upload or PM me the original startx and .xinitrc of pdax on a CXX00, I'll try to look into it.
Chero
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hello!
ive installed xfce on my rc11 c3100 now with some plugins (panel and menu etc) but i see the normal xfce panel but not the one seen on screenshots in this thread. i am also not able to access the menu and have no 2nd mouse function (fn + mouse-tap).
but else xfce looks really nice and is very smooth.
could someone please help me? where should i install the plugins in and which one are necessary?
thanks
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The default xmodmap file for C1000/C3000/C3100 is akita.xmodmap. If you compare startx and startx.xfce4, you'll notice that for startx.xfce4 'case $MODEL' section doesn't have these model. As a workaround, I added the followings and the 'Fn' key works again.
SL-C1000|SL-C3000|SL-C3100)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap
;;
Hope this help.
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Chero:
I had this problem last time I used xfce & I remembered the problem I had with RC10. The mbsession code has an error in it, sashz forgot to add the C750 model to the statement for loading the corgi.xmodmap. Since your xinitrc.xfce4 was based on RC 10 the code below:
MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;;should be:
MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760|SL-C750)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;Obviously this only impacts C750 users - both of us
Cheers,
Jerry
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here are some nice screens of my xfce4 combinated with rox... i think it looks really nice.
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... oh and excuse the horizontal lines in some pictures... i dont know why they exist (but they are not from the zaurus... i cannot see them there. maybe it is because of the screenshot application). and also excuse the jpg low-quality. also the screenshots appear a lot darker than it is on the zaurus itself.
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How do I remove the top taskbar? nothing happens when I right clik it
/Cs amigo
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doh... found it myself
/cs amigo
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here are some nice screens of my xfce4 combinated with rox... i think it looks really nice.
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Woo~ the destop is so cool and great.
would u pls to tell us how can you arrange the icons on the desk?
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Chero:
I had this problem last time I used xfce & I remembered the problem I had with RC10. The mbsession code has an error in it, sashz forgot to add the C750 model to the statement for loading the corgi.xmodmap. Since your xinitrc.xfce4 was based on RC 10 the code should be:
MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760|SL-C750)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;Obviously this only impacts C750 users - both of us
Cheers,
Jerry
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To generalize what you wrote, you can even put these lines these lines taken from ~.xinitrc so that ALL users have the right keymap.
MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760|SL-C750|SL-7500|SL-C700)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;;
SL-6000)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap
;;
SL-C1000|SL-C3000|SL-C3100)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap
;;
*)
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'Sharp-Collie' 2>/dev/null >/dev/null && test -f /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap
;;
esac
Thanks for the tip, I was tearing my hair out with Shift and Fn keys not working properly.
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here are some nice screens of my xfce4 combinated with rox... i think it looks really nice.
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... oh and excuse the horizontal lines in some pictures... i dont know why they exist (but they are not from the zaurus... i cannot see them there. maybe it is because of the screenshot application). and also excuse the jpg low-quality. also the screenshots appear a lot darker than it is on the zaurus itself.
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Woo~ the destop is so cool and great.
would u pls to tell us how can you arrange the icons on the desk?
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ok... to make the upper taskbar dissapear i got in the xfce settings => tasbbar settings. there i chose the following:
Position: Bottom
Autohide!!!
Size: small height (width doesnt matter)
Tasks: remove all options
Pager: do not show
notification area: dont show system tray
then the taskbar will be behind the panel and so you will not see it.
for the desktop icons you should install rox and all other rox packages wich are in the feed.
in aterm or whatever console type: rox --pinboard=MYPINBOARD (or whatever name you want). then you should see a blank desktop with the folder Home. if you open it, the rox file manager should appear (you should make also some configuration, because there are just icons but you dont know the meaning of the most. but in the rox filer configuration you can choose that in the menus are shown icons and the name under them). you have to do just drag'n'drop from the filer to the desktop and the file/folder/whatever appears on the desktop.
just for informations: it is not the best idea to go to /bin or /usr/bin and drag'n'drop these apps because they all have just an ugly cross or x as an icon. it is though possible to choose another icon for the app but it takes some time to do it with them all. so you can take the apps with the icons which are also shown in matchbox on the desktop... they are all located in: /usr/apps
so if you go there with the rox filer and drag'n'drop the apps you want to your desktop it is the fastest and best looking method (unless you have other icons which you want to use).
and if you want to change the icons: right click on them => App dir 'your_app" => set icon. and as you can see in the window: "drop and icon here" just open the rox filer, look for you icon u want to use and drag'n'drop it in this window... thats all.
i think rox in combination with xfce4 is very useable, fast and easy... and also looks nice on a pda... what should i say, my zaurus looks now like a real desktop device. i think i won't call it pda anymore but mini laptop (what it is now)
EDIT:
i forgot the following:
in xinitrc.xfce4 add the following line:
rox --pinboard=(the name you put in before... i.e. MYPINBOARD)
this makes the pinboard appear after a reboot automatically. but it is important to type in the same name as before else you will get again this blank desktop with the home folder.
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you simply need to kill the taskbar process and save you session, or manually edit the session.
I's not a good idea keeping a taskbar alive with no use - we mainly lackresources
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you simply need to kill the taskbar process and save you session, or manually edit the session.
I's not a good idea keeping a taskbar alive with no use - we mainly lackresources
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thats true ... but if you make it the way i said before you won't find the process because it is not running. (i tried now. i couldnt find any process. but when i configured the taskbar again with no "auto hide" it suddenly appeared as a process).
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About the "startxfce4" and "xintrc.xfce4" :
I took notes, they will be upgraded soon. (as seperate ipkg or as an updated ipkg, haven't decided yet). As for now, I think most people will find it over here, no ?
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Nice screenshots !!
If you want to change the recent apps, there's a file :
~/.config/xfce4/menustart/recentapps.xml : you can edit it to get mine out (I manually changed the times I used the apps, to keep them there and to test). I suppose you don't have "gxine" on your Z, that's how I see it are still the apps I put there.
I also see there is some space left in that colum, you can configure the menu to show more "recent apps".
Chero.
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how do you get recent apps on there? and what kind of battery life have people been getting with the 3100?
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how do you get recent apps on there?
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see first post of this thread
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has anyone gotten right-click to work in applications?
i think this is a rc11 problem =( (it worked in rc10)
i'm using a 6000L and i can't get right-click to work at all in matchbox but can get shift+tap (right-click) to work in the xfce desktop
however, right-click wont' work in scite,kdepim, abiword, nothing...
anyone have any luck?
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has anyone gotten right-click to work in applications?
i think this is a rc11 problem =( (it worked in rc10)
i'm using a 6000L and i can't get right-click to work at all in matchbox but can get shift+tap (right-click) to work in the xfce desktop
however, right-click wont' work in scite,kdepim, abiword, nothing...
anyone have any luck?
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Probably you don't have the correct xmodmap loaded.
Are you sure it's right click that works in xfce ? If you have the drop-down that give you the choice between workspaces, it's middle click.
Check if your "fn" key works and
Go a few posts back, there they talk about how to load the correct xmodmap.
(perhaps check if it exists, I don't know - still using rc10)
Chero.
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Ok guys, I got ROX and XFCE4 running together. Today I rebooted, did an IPKG upgrade/update, and now when I startXfce4, XFCE starts up, and the panel crashes with a segmentation fault. Any ideas?
Im using the rc11/760 feed.
thanks!
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Ok, well, I blew away my .cache and everything seems to be working....
We shall see if it keeps it up.
Thanks!
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im still tring to figure out the proper feed for my 3100, did an upgrade from commandline and neither would start up
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Very nice work, Chero. I've been running the default stuff for a while now (for the sake of ease, and not having to hunt down packages every RC!), but I might give xfce a try. I'm curious, how has it been running for everyone? I have a C860, and use the SD card for most applications outside the "core" files (libs, ROX, programs which don't run in X, etc...) and I'm afraid that xfce would be sluggish.
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Very nice work, Chero. I've been running the default stuff for a while now (for the sake of ease, and not having to hunt down packages every RC!), but I might give xfce a try. I'm curious, how has it been running for everyone? I have a C860, and use the SD card for most applications outside the "core" files (libs, ROX, programs which don't run in X, etc...) and I'm afraid that xfce would be sluggish.
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I wouldn't worry about speed : look [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12941&st=43]here : first reactions.[/url]
Don't believe it all.
Chero
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Probably you don't have the correct xmodmap loaded.
Are you sure it's right click that works in xfce ? If you have the drop-down that give you the choice between workspaces, it's middle click.
Check if your "fn" key works and
Go a few posts back, there they talk about how to load the correct xmodmap.
(perhaps check if it exists, I don't know - still using rc10)
Chero.
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the posts back are about different models. i'm going back to rc10. rc11 is nice and all but the right-click and time gets lost after rebooting are two things i dont like.. so its back to rc10 with no mic/suspend button working..but at least i have the other two
I put up a mirror for everything xfce+plugins
[a href=\"http://www.voidmachine.com/capoeira/pdaXrom/feeds/xfce/]http://www.voidmachine.com/capoeira/pdaXrom/feeds/xfce/[/url]
Chero-> your package file contains two duplicates of everything..and the xfce core isn't listed..
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Not that it would help, but I don't have a problem loosing time on my C1K with rc11. I run hwclock from init scripts now, because sometimes I get my time sync'ed up via ntp, but I believe that even without hwclock it was fine.
-albertr
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Hello everybody
First of all, thanks chero, xfce looks cool :-).
I miss just two bits of functionality from the default matchbox desktop.
1. A way to automatically blank the screen when the lid is closed (and as an added bonus: is there a way to have a cool screensaver?)
2. A way to use the Fn+3, Fn+4 keys to adjust brightness
Are these two things possible?
Thanks,
-Grigoris
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I am really enjoying xfce4.
I would like to make the rotation work better:
- It does not rotate when I switch from portait to landscape
- It would be cool if I had the option to move the panel to the right side when I rotate (it is too long to work well on the bottom)
If someone is knowledgeable enough to tell me how to do these things/ I can write the scripts myself.
Thanks.
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Ditto on the two posts above...that would be excellent!
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I have written a script that can move the panel between the bottom and the right hand side. I just need to integrate it with the rotate script and this will be done.
If someone could explain how the function keys and other events work, I could try and fix some of those as well.
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I found this post (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3148&st=15) that suggests a way to make some of the automatic functionality work by calling chkhinge in a loop. Not very elegant.
Is there a better way? Is there a way to do the equivalent of rc.xml?
Looks like xkeymouse may be related?
I am going to try it and post my results.
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in icewm I bind XF86RotateWindows key so that it executes "chkhinge",
ie a shortcut key for the key " XF86RotateWindows" that executes chkinge.
Maybe this could work with xfce?
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in icewm I bind XF86RotateWindows key so that it executes "chkhinge",
ie a shortcut key for the key " XF86RotateWindows" that executes chkinge.
Maybe this could work with xfce?
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Yep. It works.
Go to XFCE Settings Manager -> Window Manager -> Keyboard
Add a new theme.
Click on a free command shorcut, use chkhinge when prompted for the command, and rotate
the screen when prompted for a key.
PuthreGuy
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Hello everybody
First of all, thanks chero, xfce looks cool :-).
I miss just two bits of functionality from the default matchbox desktop.
1. A way to automatically blank the screen when the lid is closed (and as an added bonus: is there a way to have a cool screensaver?)
2. A way to use the Fn+3, Fn+4 keys to adjust brightness
Are these two things possible?
Thanks,
-Grigoris
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I've been trying to get the Fn + 3 & 4 to work along with the shortcut & silkscreen keys that are set in Matchbox/Openbox without any luck
Anyone out there have a clue how get these to work in xfce4?
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I flashed RC12 Saturday and decided to give XFCE4 a go as well. So far I have visually liked it (with ROX pinboard and all), but the autohide gives me headache. I really like the option of hiding the panel, but do you know if it is any way possible to get the panel unhide via the keyboard (with the Menu button or something)?
I'd like to have the panel on the bottom with autohide, but if I do it I can't get it unhidden with the mouse (since the pointer doesn't go low enough). Right now I have it on the right edge, but that's not optimal for me.
Alternatively I'd like a plugin that I can use to hide/unhide the panel. So far I haven't found any hints from the XFCE FAQs or wikis.
BTW, is is possible to unmount a volume with the panel mntplugin?
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BTW, is is possible to unmount a volume with the panel mntplugin?
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Yes, just click on the volume you want to umount & it'll unmount. When you click on the mntplugin again you'll see it's no longer mounted.
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I have a problem using debian chrooted under Xfce4.
When I try to run a chrooted app using Crd, I get:cannot connect to X server 127.0.0.1:0
I tried all the solutions in the debian thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9654) but in fact when I try to do xhost +localhost I get xhost: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0"
The confusing part is when I start X with matchbox by just startx and not startxfce I can run debian chrooted apps no prob.
So it must be something connected to the Xfce4. What's wrong?
Incidentally, when starting X with Xfce4 everytime I get the login to create a profile or use a default one, I create one, and next time I start X it's not there and the same "create profile" dialog appears. Is this a permissions issue? Connected with the display thingie?
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I have a problem using debian chrooted under Xfce4.
When I try to run a chrooted app using Crd, I get:cannot connect to X server 127.0.0.1:0
I tried all the solutions in the debian thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9654) but in fact when I try to do xhost +localhost I get xhost: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0"
The confusing part is when I start X with matchbox by just startx and not startxfce I can run debian chrooted apps no prob.
So it must be something connected to the Xfce4. What's wrong?
Incidentally, when starting X with Xfce4 everytime I get the login to create a profile or use a default one, I create one, and next time I start X it's not there and the same "create profile" dialog appears. Is this a permissions issue? Connected with the display thingie?
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did you remove the " -nolisten tcp -kb" in the startxfce4 script ?
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did you remove the " -nolisten tcp -kb" in the startxfce4 script ?
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You are right, didn't remove it. Doh... Now it's fixed and all's fine
One more thing is about the Profile? Should it always ask me to select the default profile and not keep the one I've created before?
Last thing, in RC12 feed there is the mb-applet-keyrus Keyboard switching application, enabling you to use different national keyboards. However when I run it under xfce4, it starts up, no errors, however it doesn't appar in the task bar. Where can I see it / enable it?
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One more thing is about the Profile? Should it always ask me to select the default profile and not keep the one I've created before?
OK, figured this one out, this is set in the Settings wizzard.
Last thing, in RC12 feed there is the mb-applet-keyrus Keyboard switching application, enabling you to use different national keyboards. However when I run it under xfce4, it starts up, no errors, however it doesn't appar in the task bar. Where can I see it / enable it?
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But this one is really bothering me. It seems taskbar applets don't run under xfce4 or where do I set this?
This keyboard switcher applet doesn't show up anywhere.
Same with uim-toolbar-gtk-systray applet. If I start it, just doesn't show up. And it's not the applet's fault I'd think, because uim-toolbar-gtk works and shows...
But there must be something simple I'm missing to make these taskbar applets work, or?...
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Sorry I don't mean to cross post or hijack the thread. But finally I see the solution is actually quite simple: just edit /etc/X11R6/bin/startx in the same way as /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 (i.e. removing " -nolisten tcp"). Perhaps the discussion in the debian thread has been streched out and the tips are spread all over the thread. At the risk of redundancy I will post a step-by-step idiot guide there very soon.
I have a problem using debian chrooted under Xfce4.
When I try to run a chrooted app using Crd, I get:cannot connect to X server 127.0.0.1:0
I tried all the solutions in the debian thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9654) but in fact when I try to do xhost +localhost I get xhost: unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0"
The confusing part is when I start X with matchbox by just startx and not startxfce I can run debian chrooted apps no prob.
So it must be something connected to the Xfce4. What's wrong?
Incidentally, when starting X with Xfce4 everytime I get the login to create a profile or use a default one, I create one, and next time I start X it's not there and the same "create profile" dialog appears. Is this a permissions issue? Connected with the display thingie?
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Last thing, in RC12 feed there is the mb-applet-keyrus Keyboard switching application, enabling you to use different national keyboards. However when I run it under xfce4, it starts up, no errors, however it doesn't appar in the task bar. Where can I see it / enable it?
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But this one is really bothering me. It seems taskbar applets don't run under xfce4 or where do I set this?
This keyboard switcher applet doesn't show up anywhere.
Same with uim-toolbar-gtk-systray applet. If I start it, just doesn't show up. And it's not the applet's fault I'd think, because uim-toolbar-gtk works and shows...
But there must be something simple I'm missing to make these taskbar applets work, or?...
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Do you have a systray running ?
There are at least two ways :
- the "xftaskbar4" holds a systray
- if you removed the "xftaskbar4" like I did, then you can add a systray to the panel (systray-plugin). Add a systray to the panel, you will see an empty space. Then run the applets from the dropdown menu (if you're not running rox). Wait a bit and they should appear in the systray-plugin-area.
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12941&st=90]Check this thread (around post 102)[/url]
Chero.
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Chero,
When you compiled 4.2, did you have to change any source code besides tweaks to gnu auto-config scripts? I'm trying to compile the latest and greatest from subversion trunk repository, but having a couple of problems:
1. The new panel code doesn't re-maximize when screen is rotated, i.e when screen is rotated from landscape to partrait mode, panel (like all other applications) doesn't adjust its size to the new screen geometry.
2. Sound volume panel applet craps out.
3. All addons from goodies page don't compile because they haven't yet been changed to play nice with latest svn code, i.e. panel and config changes.
-albertr
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Chero,
When you compiled 4.2, did you have to change any source code besides tweaks to gnu auto-config scripts? I'm trying to compile the latest and greatest from subversion trunk repository, but having a couple of problems:
1. The new panel code doesn't re-maximize when screen is rotated, i.e when screen is rotated from landscape to partrait mode, panel (like all other applications) doesn't adjust its size to the new screen geometry.
2. Sound volume panel applet craps out.
3. All addons from goodies page don't compile because they haven't yet been changed to play nice with latest svn code, i.e. panel and config changes.
-albertr
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Just a few minor things, i have to check my notes. I think it was mainly about using the right configure-options.
They released 4.2.3.1 on 2005/11/08. Grabbing that source is probably a lot easier than going through svn, and it's only 6 days old. It could save you lots of trouble. Have you checked the changelog ? I don't see a reason there to compile a new version yet. (But that's just a personal opinion). Or is svn already about the upcoming 4.4 release ?
Chero.
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Yes, svn trunk is about what 4.4 would look like. It's quite different from 4.2.3.1, but I'm not really excited so far based on what I see, especially since all the goodies need to be chnaged to play nice with the new panel code.
-albertr
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Yes, svn trunk is about what 4.4 would look like. It's quite different from 4.2.3.1, but I'm not really excited so far based on what I see, especially since all the goodies need to be chnaged to play nice with the new panel code.
-albertr
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Just took a look on osnews about xfce 4.4. Not sure I like what I read there.
How does the panel behave in 4.4 ? Is it on every desktop, or do you have lo launch one on every desktop ?
The iconbox and taskbar are parts of the panel now ?
From what I understand, the goodies will have to be changed but I'm not sure they will allow "third party goodies" (".... panel plugins that make the panel crash ....").
About the behaviour of apps and the panel you described : I guess that's what they mean by the changes in xfdesktop and xfwm. It's upto the (power)-user to decide how the apps should behave, not upto the desktop or the WM.
I just had a quick glance, let's hope I misunderstood a few things and that the code you're trying to build isn't final yet.
The positive thing I've seen : Thunar.
Anyway, before compiling it on (for) my Z, I'm going to try the final release on my home box.
Chero.
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Just a (stupid) question. Will the performance improves if we recompile the same version xfces4 with RC11 Cross SDK?
I think the new C compiler will give a faster binary.
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Yes, taskbar and iconbox are parts of the new panel now. The panel configuration code is different too - applets need to be dragged (which is IMHO quite annoying on the Z) to be added/removed to/from the panel. To change the applet's position, it needs to be dragged again.
I think I'm done with playing with the 4.4 code. I was trying to find any improvements related to running it on the Zaurus, but so far it looks quite opposite. I'll compile 4.2.3.1 instead and try to tweak it to suite my taste.
-albertr
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Yes, taskbar and iconbox are parts of the new panel now. The panel configuration code is different too - applets need to be dragged (which is IMHO quite annoying on the Z) to be added/removed to/from the panel. To change the applet's position, it needs to be dragged again.
I think I'm done with playing with the 4.4 code. I was trying to find any improvements related to running it on the Zaurus, but so far it looks quite opposite. I'll compile 4.2.3.1 instead and try to tweak it to suite my taste.
-albertr
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I think the upgrades are meant for a desktop (I'm not sure they know how the Z works, or even what the Z is - though I pointed Benedict to these forums). They would make working on a desktop more intuitive. Maybe the usb-enable Zs that can use a mouse could benefit from it. But what about portability ?
I was even thinking about version 4.0.6 (downgrade ?). It has the option to make the panel behave as any other app. This way you can drag apps in front of the panel (using full-screen without hiding the panel) and bring the panel back to top using alt-tab. I know it has an auto-hide feature now, but to use this properly, you need a mouse (there goes portability again).
just my 2 cents.
Chero.
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Well, I have a usb mouse connected most of the time, and still don't like the new panel. Guess it's a matter of personal preferences.
As far as hiding/unhiding goes, I'll try to add the option to use the key to unhide the panel, maybe make it to bring up the menu as well.
-albertr
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just to show you how my desktop looks like now, after playing a bit around with icons, etc.:
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ah... another thing to say: still using xfce 4.2
and sorry for not so good picture quality.
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just to show you how my desktop looks like now, after playing a bit around with icons, etc.:
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ah... another thing to say: still using xfce 4.2
and sorry for not so good picture quality.
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I would like to show off my xfce/rox desktop from time to time (we are always changing them aren't we?), but don't know how to get a screengrab. I've searched the forums, but nothing is really making any sense. It would be good to see what people do. Anyone point me to a simple howto/ipkg?
Thanks
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there are some "how to"s in the pdaxrom forum. and also on pdaxrom.org.
sleep 5;xwd -display :0.0 -root -out /where/you/want/to/save/your/screenshot.xwd
sleep 5 makes it wait 5seconds and than it takes a screenshot
http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=27&menuid=8 (http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=27&menuid=8)
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just to show you how my desktop looks like now, after playing a bit around with icons, etc.:
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ah... another thing to say: still using xfce 4.2
and sorry for not so good picture quality.
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I would like to show off my xfce/rox desktop from time to time (we are always changing them aren't we?), but don't know how to get a screengrab. I've searched the forums, but nothing is really making any sense. It would be good to see what people do. Anyone point me to a simple howto/ipkg?
Thanks
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take a look at [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/screenshots/full-taskbar.jpg]this screenshot[/url], it shows an aterm taking a screenshot.
If you want to change desktop or alt-tab or minimize windows, you could use the sleep command first:
# sleep 10; xwd .........this gives you 10 seconds before the actual screen is captured.
To convert them to jpg, I use ImageMagick (there or some ipks around) :
# convert screen1.xwd screen1.jpg
There is also another way : Look for the working version of the Gimp (there has been talked about it recently). It has an option to take screenshots.
Chero
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Is there a problem with the systray plugin? I downloaded it from the "old" directory of the feed and when I run mb-applet-keyrus - a keyboard switcher, the switcher works, but there's only a white box in the systray, it doesn't display the flag icon.
I've noticed this behavior only with the systray plugin. If you use the systray in the taskbar, then it displays the icon fine.
But I'd like to use the systray plugin, since I use the taskbar plugin for the panel and would like to keep using the panel. Is there a solution?
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Is there a problem with the systray plugin? I downloaded it from the "old" directory of the feed and when I run mb-applet-keyrus - a keyboard switcher, the switcher works, but there's only a white box in the systray, it doesn't display the flag icon.
I've noticed this behavior only with the systray plugin. If you use the systray in the taskbar, then it displays the icon fine.
But I'd like to use the systray plugin, since I use the taskbar plugin for the panel and would like to keep using the panel. Is there a solution?
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try resizing the panel (panel properties). I think if you make it "large" it will show the icon. If you resize to medium afterwards, it will keep on showing it. There were some posts about this in that (long) thread with the wrong title : "OK, kde works, how about ...".
Chero.
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try resizing the panel (panel properties). I think if you make it "large" it will show the icon. If you resize to medium afterwards, it will keep on showing it. There were some posts about this in that (long) thread with the wrong title : "OK, kde works, how about ...".
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It works, great
The taskbar is very large though, it's also the same story when using the battery monitor plugin, since even if you set the taskbar height to small, the icon is too big.
Is this just to do with the icon png size? I.e. if I take the battery icon and resize it - make it smaller, is it gonna show a smaller height taskbar? Should, but if it's not gonna work might as well not try...
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try resizing the panel (panel properties). I think if you make it "large" it will show the icon. If you resize to medium afterwards, it will keep on showing it. There were some posts about this in that (long) thread with the wrong title : "OK, kde works, how about ...".
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It works, great
The taskbar is very large though, it's also the same story when using the battery monitor plugin, since even if you set the taskbar height to small, the icon is too big.
Is this just to do with the icon png size? I.e. if I take the battery icon and resize it - make it smaller, is it gonna show a smaller height taskbar? Should, but if it's not gonna work might as well not try...
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Not sure, but :
What happens when you resize to small now ?
Do you get the white square again, or does it resize the icon ?
About the battery : you could use the xfce-battery-plugin (works great).
As I understood a few months ago, once the icons are there, they stay. I haven't tried it though.
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Not sure, but :
What happens when you resize to small now ?
Do you get the white square again, or does it resize the icon ?
About the battery : you could use the xfce-battery-plugin (works great).
As I understood a few months ago, once the icons are there, they stay. I haven't tried it though.
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OK, I'll try making the icon smaller.
Now, when you resize to small, all the elements in the taskbar get smaller, however the big icon stays big, so the taskbar itself stays big, looks strange.
Actually I am using the xfce-battery-plugin, but the icon is too big. When you resize the taskbar to small it does the same thing, i.e. everything gets smaller, but the taskbar stays big because the icon is big.
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Not sure, but :
What happens when you resize to small now ?
Do you get the white square again, or does it resize the icon ?
About the battery : you could use the xfce-battery-plugin (works great).
As I understood a few months ago, once the icons are there, they stay. I haven't tried it though.
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OK, I'll try making the icon smaller.
Now, when you resize to small, all the elements in the taskbar get smaller, however the big icon stays big, so the taskbar itself stays big, looks strange.
Actually I am using the xfce-battery-plugin, but the icon is too big. When you resize the taskbar to small it does the same thing, i.e. everything gets smaller, but the taskbar stays big because the icon is big.
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Just tested it, you are correct.
Please let us know what happens when resizing the icons.
Thanks,
Chero.
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Just tested it, you are correct.
Please let us know what happens when resizing the icons.
Resizing the icon doesn't seem to work. I resized it, but it still comes out big in the taskbar, but now foggy, since it's been resized to half, yet it's displayed at 100 percent. Somehow it seems the plugin gives the size for the icon and then stretches it.
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Chero, which file is the uptodate file for XFCE4 install. Is it http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/....2_armv5tel.ipk (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/old/xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipk) from 7th July, 3.3MB. Or is it the two files here in the thread, on the first page?
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Chero, which file is the uptodate file for XFCE4 install. Is it http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/....2_armv5tel.ipk (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc10/chero/old/xfce4_4.2.2_armv5tel.ipk) from 7th July, 3.3MB. Or is it the two files here in the thread, on the first page?
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[a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/]these are my latest[/url], but i still have to add some others
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Hi !
I have a little problem with Xfce ... When I try to change a panel icon nothing happend.
I have try the "open" button but I select the icon file (no preview) and ..and nothing ... When I try to drag an icon file from rox in the preview aera that doesn't work anymore ...
I use .svg icon file with xfce4 under RC12 ...
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Hi !
I have a little problem with Xfce ... When I try to change a panel icon nothing happend.
I have try the "open" button but I select the icon file (no preview) and ..and nothing ... When I try to drag an icon file from rox in the preview aera that doesn't work anymore ...
I use .svg icon file with xfce4 under RC12 ...
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Sorry, but .svg icons don't work, try using .png.
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Sorry, but .svg icons don't work, try using .png.
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dduuhh ! thank's for your reponse ... it was maybe a dummie question
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I compiled minicmd plugin for xfce4.
After installing it, restart xfce4 to avoid problems with error messages when starting a terminal window from minicmd.
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after installing XFCE is it possible to unistall all matchbox applet ???
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after installing XFCE is it possible to unistall all matchbox applet ???
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I wouldn't recommend it.
Matchbox (openbox) is more stable than xfce4 (though I don't use matchbox anymore).
I uninstalled them from / and reinstalled them to HD, just in case. They are available and don't get in the way.
Chero.
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hey chero,
i was a big fan of your xfce ipks for rc10 and am trying to get the latest packages working for rc12/SL-6000. However, it gives me
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
XIO: Fatal error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
Do i need anything besides the main xfce4 for the bare minimum to get it running?
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks!
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just a guess: is you /tmp or / or /home full? (use df -h in a console)
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hey chero,
i was a big fan of your xfce ipks for rc10 and am trying to get the latest packages working for rc12/SL-6000. However, it gives me
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
XIO: Fatal error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
Do i need anything besides the main xfce4 for the bare minimum to get it running?
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks!
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have you installed the "xlibs" package that is in my ipkg-list ? If you did, that's the problem.
To repair this : edit startxfce4 and comment out the section that loads the fonts.
You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
bare minimum : just xfce4 & the pinned libstdcxx, the rest should be on your system.
Chero.
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You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
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For those who are wondering :
The xlibs package contains some binaries, libs and fonts that were left out pdaXrom. I just compiled it to see what I could add to my Z and to compile some other apps against.
Also, it contains "xeyes", "xcalc" and "xclock", and some apps I played with on my HP-Apollo running HP-UX in the early 90ties. "xcalc -rpn" gives you a hp15c (hp11c) based calculator.
The package seems to mess up the fonts, but by leaving the font section out "startx" or "startxfce4" everything runs just fine.
Install or use at your own risk.
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You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
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Thanks much! that was the problem. However, it must have messed something up b/c after that when i went to package manger it would freeze. Also, 22Megs in my RAM somehow got filled up. I'm not quite sure what happened but i had to reflash.
I got xfce4 working good with my new rc12 but after i went back to matchbox and downloaded some ipks, when i went back to xfce my settings weren't saved how i had them before and everytime i add the "menu" icon the bottom toolbar just dissapears.. =P -=(
Any clue about what is happening now?
Thanks much!
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hey chero,
first of all i want to thank you very much for the beautifull web pages on installing XFCE4.
I've installed it on my SL C3100 (i see you have a 3100 too !!!) following your infos on your web site.
I've a little problem....
i cannot uses all the blue key (all the keys with Fn) so for example i cannot type = (and enabling rox....)
in matchbox all works well so what am i missing ???
I've installed all the base goodies you say in your web pages but when i start xfce i've no pdaxrom menu...no applet....and i do not find any menu with all my programs....
Please may hou help me ? Thanks !
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hey chero,
first of all i want to thank you very much for the beautifull web pages on installing XFCE4.
I've installed it on my SL C3100 (i see you have a 3100 too !!!) following your infos on your web site.
I've a little problem....
i cannot uses all the blue key (all the keys with Fn) so for example i cannot type = (and enabling rox....)
in matchbox all works well so what am i missing ???
I've installed all the base goodies you say in your web pages but when i start xfce i've no pdaxrom menu...no applet....and i do not find any menu with all my programs....
Please may hou help me ? Thanks !
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check your PM for 2 modified files.
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You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
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Thanks much! that was the problem. However, it must have messed something up b/c after that when i went to package manger it would freeze. Also, 22Megs in my RAM somehow got filled up. I'm not quite sure what happened but i had to reflash.
I got xfce4 working good with my new rc12 but after i went back to matchbox and downloaded some ipks, when i went back to xfce my settings weren't saved how i had them before and everytime i add the "menu" icon the bottom toolbar just dissapears.. =P -=(
Any clue about what is happening now?
Thanks much!
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can you get it back by typing "xfce4-panel &" in an aterm ?
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You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
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Thanks much! that was the problem. However, it must have messed something up b/c after that when i went to package manger it would freeze. Also, 22Megs in my RAM somehow got filled up. I'm not quite sure what happened but i had to reflash.
I got xfce4 working good with my new rc12 but after i went back to matchbox and downloaded some ipks, when i went back to xfce my settings weren't saved how i had them before and everytime i add the "menu" icon the bottom toolbar just dissapears.. =P -=(
Any clue about what is happening now?
Thanks much!
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can you get it back by typing "xfce4-panel &" in an aterm ?
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yep..I can get it back, however it does not fix the problem that i can't get the xfce menu added. It'll still just crash everytime i try to add it. =( However, this time i got the message "Gtk-warning: attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox. but as a gtk bin subclass
can only contain one at a time". So somehow it thinks that its already been added to the panel. I've tried deleting .config and going from scratch but with no luck either. The desktop background wouldn't show either until i added rox. Any clues?
thanks for the help
takuan
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You don't need the xlibs package to run xfce4 (in fact nothing is based on it yet).
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Thanks much! that was the problem. However, it must have messed something up b/c after that when i went to package manger it would freeze. Also, 22Megs in my RAM somehow got filled up. I'm not quite sure what happened but i had to reflash.
I got xfce4 working good with my new rc12 but after i went back to matchbox and downloaded some ipks, when i went back to xfce my settings weren't saved how i had them before and everytime i add the "menu" icon the bottom toolbar just dissapears.. =P -=(
Any clue about what is happening now?
Thanks much!
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can you get it back by typing "xfce4-panel &" in an aterm ?
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yep..I can get it back, however it does not fix the problem that i can't get the xfce menu added. It'll still just crash everytime i try to add it. =( However, this time i got the message "Gtk-warning: attempting to add a widget with type GtkImage to a GtkEventBox. but as a gtk bin subclass
can only contain one at a time". So somehow it thinks that its already been added to the panel. I've tried deleting .config and going from scratch but with no luck either. The desktop background wouldn't show either until i added rox. Any clues?
thanks for the help
takuan
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If you have no background without rox then xfdesktop isn't running. The menu is part of "xfdesktop". Try launching xfdesktop from an aterm :
# xfdesktop &
If it doesn't work (or segfaults), some files are broken. The best thing to do then is to reinstall xfce4. I got this behaviour when running xfce4 from SD on a C860, I never had it again when I installed xfce4 to / (just the base and a few plugins that gave me errors when trying to install them to SD). The plugins don't take up a lot of space, so I didn't bother to fix the ipkgs.
Chero.
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Is there a way to switch from 640x480 to 320x240 ?
i try to use Fn+1 Fn+2 as under match box but it doesent work.
I know i can use xrandr but how can i map Fn+1 and Fn+2 under xfce too ???
i'm using 3100
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Is there a way to switch from 640x480 to 320x240 ?
i try to use Fn+1 Fn+2 as under match box but it doesent work.
I know i can use xrandr but how can i map Fn+1 and Fn+2 under xfce too ???
i'm using 3100
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Into the Xfce4 Settings Manager go to "Windows Manager" option and then you have "keyboard" setting.
On the bottom you can add command shortcut to restore the zoom and the brightness feature :
for brightness : setfl - or setfl +
for zoom : xrandr -s 0 or xrandr -s 1
I have also had shortcut for sutdown the Z or for the screen rotation ....
Not that you can change the Windows manager shortcut and you have a wonderfull option : toggle fullscreen that can display your current windows without xfce bars or windwos title ...
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Is it a way to have 2 panels ? One is good ... two is better
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Is it a way to have 2 panels ? One is good ... two is better
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Do you mean in the same session ? Then the answer is not with the current version. It should be possible in xfce4 4.4.x. But as discussed before, there are some things I don't like in the upcoming 4.4
If you mean in different sessions, then the answer is yes. Just save the sessions under different names.
Chero.
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Ok, so i reflashed and reinstalled xfce4.
Everything seems to work fine now. =] yay
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Is there a problem with Suspend in XFCE4?
I have the following issue, I set for instance to suspend after 1 minute on battery and only turn off LCD after 1 minute on AC. But it always does either suspend on battery or AC. Or when I go to the Light and Power settings again and reset them, then it only turns of LCD whether on battery or AC.
Why is this?
This is a big problem, because my battery keeps running out when it doesn't suspend and conversely the Z hangs when it suspends in the middle of compiling stuff or so...
Anyone seen this behavior?
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Is there a problem with Suspend in XFCE4?
I have the following issue, I set for instance to suspend after 1 minute on battery and only turn off LCD after 1 minute on AC. But it always does either suspend on battery or AC. Or when I go to the Light and Power settings again and reset them, then it only turns of LCD whether on battery or AC.
Why is this?
This is a big problem, because my battery keeps running out when it doesn't suspend and conversely the Z hangs when it suspends in the middle of compiling stuff or so...
Anyone seen this behavior?
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The problem is not suspend, it's the Z not knowing whether it's on AC or not.
When you run the "Light and Power settings"-app, it detects whether it's on AC or not and changes the settings.
This should be done automatically whenever you put in or pull out the ac-plug.
Does anyone have a suggestion how we could do this ?
Chero.
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On Settings => "windows manager settings" => Keyboard => "command shortcuts" you can define your own shortcut key ... But it's limited to 10 shortcuts ... Is it a way to add more ?
I have read on a xfce4 forum "not ... but nobody use more alse 10 shortcuts ..." ... Sorry but the silkscreen aera need 5 shortcuts ...
Moreover, What's the command to open the xfce4 menu ? I would to do that with the "menu" key but I don't find the right command.
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So i think that nobody has a solution for my previous post ...
I have seen on http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ (http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/) that it's 2 new module that can be usefull :
xfce4-modem-lights
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
Nobody has re-compiled them ?
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So i think that nobody has a solution for my previous post ...
I have seen on http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ (http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/) that it's 2 new module that can be usefull :
xfce4-modem-lights
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
Nobody has re-compiled them ?
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No, I don't know the answer to your previous post. If it's on the xfce-website you can use only 10, I don't think there's a workaround.
About the plugins :
If you like, I could add them. Just wait for a day or 10. If you can't wait, you can install the xfce4 and xfce4-dev packages from the contributed feed and try to compile the plugins.
Keep us informed.
Chero.
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So i think that nobody has a solution for my previous post ...
I have seen on http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ (http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/) that it's 2 new module that can be usefull :
xfce4-modem-lights
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
Nobody has re-compiled them ?
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No, I don't know the answer to your previous post. If it's on the xfce-website you can use only 10, I don't think there's a workaround.
About the plugins :
If you like, I could add them. Just wait for a day or 10. If you can't wait, you can install the xfce4 and xfce4-dev packages from the contributed feed and try to compile the plugins.
Keep us informed.
Chero.
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I can wait 1 or 10 days ...
I just discover Linux so starting compiling sometimes is too hard for the moment i think ...
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Hi Chero
Thanks for the great work on this - it took a bit of fiddling around to get the panel to behave, but XFCE4 is a much better window manager for my SL6000. All the windows stay within the screen in portrait mode and I can open several items at once without strange results!
Thanks again
Karl
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Is there a problem with Suspend in XFCE4?
I have the following issue, I set for instance to suspend after 1 minute on battery and only turn off LCD after 1 minute on AC. But it always does either suspend on battery or AC. Or when I go to the Light and Power settings again and reset them, then it only turns of LCD whether on battery or AC.
Why is this?
This is a big problem, because my battery keeps running out when it doesn't suspend and conversely the Z hangs when it suspends in the middle of compiling stuff or so...
Anyone seen this behavior?
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The problem is not suspend, it's the Z not knowing whether it's on AC or not.
When you run the "Light and Power settings"-app, it detects whether it's on AC or not and changes the settings.
This should be done automatically whenever you put in or pull out the ac-plug.
Does anyone have a suggestion how we could do this ?
Chero.
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I have the same problem, and I see what you mean about the AC thing - you can see it by the LED. It lights up to start with, but turns off quite quickly and from then on seems to think it is on battery.
I know this worked(still works) with the default X setup - is something supposed to be running to monitor this?
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What does the various files in /proc/driver/battery/* have to say about the status?
- Bundabrg
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What does the various files in /proc/driver/battery/* have to say about the status?
- Bundabrg
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They don't change, but that makes sense given the below...
I have discovered that loading the matchbox panel causes it to operate correctly - something there is watching for power events and calling apm. I put a debug line in the /usr/bin/apm wrapper script, which shows output each time it is unplugged/plugged in with the panel running, and absolutely nothing without the panel.
It would be a bit pointless to run xfce with the matchbox panel, and I can't figure out how to hide it away. Watch out if testing this because the matchbox panel seems to be a bit finicky and a wrong setting or kill can cause it to stop the apm events too (it takes some fiddling to get it to work again).
I have looked for a bit, but I can't seem to find what is causing the panel to do this - if we could find it, I think that would be the solution.
Also if there is any way of simply running a script at each power event, running 'lightnpower.py --loadandquit' will update the settings fine (as done in the xinitrc).
Thanks for any help
EDIT:
Does xset fit in here anywhere?
The battery monitor applet can run commands when the battery gets low - can it be set up to run a command when changing from AC to battery/vice versa?
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Solution: Autostart of Applications (also in panel-systray) and Question: Autohide of panel
After fiddling around with several window-managers for pdaxrom I decided to stay with xfce4. It is the best solution for me.
While fintuning my settings I found one solution for a problem posted some time ago. It solves the problem how to start mb-applets automatically so that they are shown in the panel-systray. Xfce4 offers a way to autostart applications. You have to create a Directory named "Desktop" and within this directory a subdirectory "Autostart". When you put executable scripts into this Autostart-driectory they will be executed after xfce4 has started. I put a script there named "cards" (the name does not matter) with the content:
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/mb-applet-cards
and voila there is the mb-card-applet showing up in the systray.
The last problem I do not have a solution for is, that I do not find a way to show the panel again after autohiding it. No mouse-movement, no keyboard-shortcut.
Does somebody have a suggestion?
Detlev
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The last problem I do not have a solution for is, that I do not find a way to show the panel again after autohiding it. No mouse-movement, no keyboard-shortcut.
Does somebody have a suggestion?
Detlev
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It's probably a callibration problem. The panel should come back when you tap on the edge of the screen where it disappeared. If you are using it at the bottom now, try using it on the top of the screen. If you can get it back this way, you could fiddle with callibration to make it work where you wish.
Chero.
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Here's another one - does anyone else have a problem with the mouse being stuck on right click? I am not sure what is causing it - sometimes after screen dim, sometimes just in the middle of using it...
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So i think that nobody has a solution for my previous post ...
I have seen on http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ (http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/) that it's 2 new module that can be usefull :
xfce4-modem-lights
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
Nobody has re-compiled them ?
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No, I don't know the answer to your previous post. If it's on the xfce-website you can use only 10, I don't think there's a workaround.
About the plugins :
If you like, I could add them. Just wait for a day or 10. If you can't wait, you can install the xfce4 and xfce4-dev packages from the contributed feed and try to compile the plugins.
Keep us informed.
Chero.
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Any news about adding this package ?
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin looks good to wait before xfce under pdaxrom support multiple toolbar ...
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Hi Chero,
Can you make your site http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/ (http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/) be a proper feed directory? Thanks a lot!
Much appreciated !!!
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http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Chero/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Chero/)
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Thanks pgas! I have just seen the link in your signature. It is so useful!
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Hi Chero,
first off, may I congratulate you on the most excellent work you (and all the rest) have been doing getting XFCE on the Z.
I have recently got my C860 running pdaXrom and xcfe, and it looks just like my big box!
I do have one minor problem, the thunar package appears to be named incorrectly. when using the feed supplied by pgas, the built in package manager complains that xfce4-thunar does not exist. The file name is just plain ol' thunar_0.0.2_armv5tel.ipk, i.e. minus the xfce4 prefix.
if i just try to use ipkg from the command line, it complains for the same reason.
Could it be that the file name, or the package name in the control file, is incorrect?
I'll try playing with the control file first.
***EDIT***
when I download the file and change the name tpo include the "xfce4-" prefix, everything is ok.
I also have the same prolems with libexo (a dependancy for thunar) , again this is resolved by adding "xfce4-" as a prefix to the file.
In a related thing, the xfce4-iconthemes package has a similar problem, the control file states that the package is called xfce4-extra-iconthemes, once the package is renamed, all is good.
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Im using rox pinboard in my 6000L, but everytime i rotate the screen, the wallpaper does not display correctly anymore. Does anyone know how to rotate the screen while the wallpaper remains unchanged ?
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Im using rox pinboard in my 6000L, but everytime i rotate the screen, the wallpaper is not proper display anymore. Does anyone know how to rotate the screen while the wallpaper remains unchanged ?
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I didn't know but I solve this "problem" by making a bash file to rotate the screen and change the pinbord folder.
So I have 2 command "desktop_mode" and "pda_mode" and also 2 different desktop, One specially with application that I use in desktop mode with a 640*480 wallpaper and one another with all application that i use in pda mode with a different 480*640 wallpaper ...
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Hi Chero,
first off, may I congratulate you on the most excellent work you (and all the rest) have been doing getting XFCE on the Z.
I have recently got my C860 running pdaXrom and xcfe, and it looks just like my big box!
I do have one minor problem, the thunar package appears to be named incorrectly. when using the feed supplied by pgas, the built in package manager complains that xfce4-thunar does not exist. The file name is just plain ol' thunar_0.0.2_armv5tel.ipk, i.e. minus the xfce4 prefix.
if i just try to use ipkg from the command line, it complains for the same reason.
Could it be that the file name, or the package name in the control file, is incorrect?
I'll try playing with the control file first.
***EDIT***
when I download the file and change the name tpo include the "xfce4-" prefix, everything is ok.
I also have the same prolems with libexo (a dependancy for thunar) , again this is resolved by adding "xfce4-" as a prefix to the file.
In a related thing, the xfce4-iconthemes package has a similar problem, the control file states that the package is called xfce4-extra-iconthemes, once the package is renamed, all is good.
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I'm aware of the naming thing.
BTW : the thunar package is just a test I did. It can't be used as it is, it doesn't do anything (just viewing). I'll try to provide a new one later, when thunar has been released officially. For the time being, I use "xfe" and "mc".
Have fun,
Chero.
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I'm currently running XFCE4 on my SL-C3000. Things seem to be working well, but I've been wanting to map some of the Fn keys to some functions (like the zoom in/out, brightness, volume control). The problem is that in the Xmodmap file for akita, all the lines mentioning F1-F10 are commented out. This means that to Xev, Fn+1 just produces a 1, etc. I tried uncommenting the lines to see what would happen and it appears that F1-F10 overtake the 1-0 keys so you can't type numbers. I checked in MB and it appears that to it, Xev still outputs a "1" when Fn+1 is pressed. How does the keybinding work for MB and can we use the same method in XFCE to map functions to the Fn keys?
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So i think that nobody has a solution for my previous post ...
I have seen on http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ (http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/) that it's 2 new module that can be usefull :
xfce4-modem-lights
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
Nobody has re-compiled them ?
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No, I don't know the answer to your previous post. If it's on the xfce-website you can use only 10, I don't think there's a workaround.
About the plugins :
If you like, I could add them. Just wait for a day or 10. If you can't wait, you can install the xfce4 and xfce4-dev packages from the contributed feed and try to compile the plugins.
Keep us informed.
Chero.
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Any news about adding this package ?
xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin looks good to wait before xfce under pdaxrom support multiple toolbar ...
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Uploaded quicklauncher and modemlights to my ipkgs (see link in my signature)
Quicklauncher seems nice with those tiny icons, didn't test modemlights.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Right, Quicklauncher looks very good and usefull for a little screen. Thank's master Chero
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Im using rox pinboard in my 6000L, but everytime i rotate the screen, the wallpaper is not proper display anymore. Does anyone know how to rotate the screen while the wallpaper remains unchanged ?
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I didn't know but I solve this "problem" by making a bash file to rotate the screen and change the pinbord folder.
So I have 2 command "desktop_mode" and "pda_mode" and also 2 different desktop, One specially with application that I use in desktop mode with a 640*480 wallpaper and one another with all application that i use in pda mode with a different 480*640 wallpaper ...
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You can solve the wallpaper problem by using a square 640x640 background, and selecting "tile" mode in the backdrop window through which you're selecting the image.
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Im using rox pinboard in my 6000L, but everytime i rotate the screen, the wallpaper is not proper display anymore. Does anyone know how to rotate the screen while the wallpaper remains unchanged ?
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I didn't know but I solve this "problem" by making a bash file to rotate the screen and change the pinbord folder.
So I have 2 command "desktop_mode" and "pda_mode" and also 2 different desktop, One specially with application that I use in desktop mode with a 640*480 wallpaper and one another with all application that i use in pda mode with a different 480*640 wallpaper ...
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You can solve the wallpaper problem by using a square 640x640 background, and selecting "tile" mode in the backdrop window through which you're selecting the image.
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Right, you can go to [a href=\"http://zaurusthemes.org/content/wallpapers/640x640/index.html]http://zaurusthemes.org/content/wallpapers...x640/index.html[/url] in order to find 640*640 wallpapers if your are lazy to make them ...
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ight, you can go to http://zaurusthemes.org/content/wallpapers...x640/index.html (http://zaurusthemes.org/content/wallpapers...x640/index.html) in order to find 640*640 wallpapers if your are lazy to make them ...
or to:
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/jedhead/wallpaper/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/jedhead/wallpaper/)
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in xfce4 does anyone notice the colors not fully running for the desktop? it looks like it uses a lower color bit and looks wierd/bad with wallpapper anyone experiencing this/know a fix?
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also, does anyone notice xmms pegging the cpu to 100% playing a song, while in default gui, it dosent?
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Yes... The low color in xfce made my wallpaper looks ugly! Anyone know why?
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Yes... The low color in xfce made my wallpaper looks ugly! Anyone know why?
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Same here... and I also notice some ghosting. Like if you open a term window you can seee a little of the bar above the bar (when in clamshell).
I'm wondering if this has something to do with the Cxx00 models?
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hi there... i have a problem with rox... when i want to start rox i have these error:
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type 'GtkIconeTheme'
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot retrieve class for invalid (unclassed) type '<invalid>'
and an ohter problem... when i rotate the screen in pda mode and i want to come back in laptop mode, my screen rotate, but in the bad sense
thx&++
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hi there... i have a problem with rox... when i want to start rox i have these error:
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type 'GtkIconeTheme'
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot retrieve class for invalid (unclassed) type '<invalid>'
seems to be the gtk+ (gtk2) 2.4<->2.6 incompatibility warning.
Did you install gtk, gtk2 from the same feed as the one you installed rox from ?
Maybe try reinstalling them ?
Other answers google gave me can be summarised as :
- (re)install pango
- (re)install librsvg
- (re)install gnome-icon-theme
and an ohter problem... when i rotate the screen in pda mode and i want to come back in laptop mode, my screen rotate, but in the bad sense
thx&++
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don't know about this, i hardly ever rotate the screen. But I've seen some solutions on this forum, just browse the xfce-related-threads.
Good luck
Chero.
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hi there... i have a problem with rox... when i want to start rox i have these error:
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type 'GtkIconeTheme'
(ROX-Filer:3158): Glib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot retrieve class for invalid (unclassed) type '<invalid>'
seems to be the gtk+ (gtk2) 2.4<->2.6 incompatibility warning.
Did you install gtk, gtk2 from the same feed as the one you installed rox from ?
Maybe try reinstalling them ?
Other answers google gave me can be summarised as :
- (re)install pango
- (re)install librsvg
- (re)install gnome-icon-theme
and an ohter problem... when i rotate the screen in pda mode and i want to come back in laptop mode, my screen rotate, but in the bad sense
thx&++
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don't know about this, i hardly ever rotate the screen. But I've seen some solutions on this forum, just browse the xfce-related-threads.
Good luck
Chero.
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ok... a lot of thx
i will try this later, i'm just flashing my c3000 with the new release
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I'v installed the xfce4 packages on my C750 SD card .
When running starxfce4 I got the following message :
xfce4-session: error while loading shared libraries: libxfsm-4.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I will appreciate your advice.
thanks,
David.
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Dear David,
Run "ldconfig" on the command line and it will be fine.
BR,
Felix.
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Dear David,
Run "ldconfig" on the command line and it will be fine.
BR,
Felix.
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Hi Felix,
Thanks for replying , it really works.
David.
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Is there a way to map the panel menu to the menu button? I've everything else mapped fine, back light, chkhinge, maximize & full screen, If I just had the panel menu I'd be all set...
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Why does XFCE freeze when launching programs such as package manager, licq, ppp, perhaps some others? The wireless card still works though and i can ssh into it, kill x and continue working.
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Is there a way to map the panel menu to the menu button? I've everything else mapped fine, back light, chkhinge, maximize & full screen, If I just had the panel menu I'd be all set...
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I finally figured it out, the command is:
xfdesktop -menuI simply mapped that to the menu key in the Window manager settings. Now I'm all set
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I'm currently running XFCE4 on my SL-C3000. Things seem to be working well, but I've been wanting to map some of the Fn keys to some functions (like the zoom in/out, brightness, volume control). The problem is that in the Xmodmap file for akita, all the lines mentioning F1-F10 are commented out. This means that to Xev, Fn+1 just produces a 1, etc. I tried uncommenting the lines to see what would happen and it appears that F1-F10 overtake the 1-0 keys so you can't type numbers. I checked in MB and it appears that to it, Xev still outputs a "1" when Fn+1 is pressed. How does the keybinding work for MB and can we use the same method in XFCE to map functions to the Fn keys?
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I'm seeing this same issue on my C-760, any clue?
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Solution: Autostart of Applications (also in panel-systray) and Question: Autohide of panel
You have to create a Directory named "Desktop" and within this directory a subdirectory "Autostart".
Hi,
I've been trying to get this work, but no luck :-( Could you tell me in what directory you created the Desktop directory, and what permissions are on the various files involved?
Regards,
Herman
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Solution: Autostart of Applications (also in panel-systray) and Question: Autohide of panel
You have to create a Directory named "Desktop" and within this directory a subdirectory "Autostart".
Hi,
I've been trying to get this work, but no luck :-( Could you tell me in what directory you created the Desktop directory, and what permissions are on the various files involved?
Regards,
Herman
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Maybe try my experimental packages ?? (look [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14864&view=findpost&p=123085]over here[/url])
The packages are here : http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/ (http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/)
First uninstall all xfce4-stuff.
Install what you need and
then you can try the autostarter.
BTW : the battery applet also changes backlight and suspend settings as it should !!
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Have fun,
Chero.
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Maybe try my experimental packages ?? (look over here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14864&view=findpost&p=123085))
How "experimental" are those? I more or less now have a "stable" Zaurus I was planning on using for a while (at least until kernel 2.6 will be out :-), after playing around with various winmanagers and apps.
Also, do you know something about memory usage of 4.4 vs 4.2? I find that with the various applets and things running, 64MB is getting tight :-)
Herman
(3100)
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Maybe try my experimental packages ?? (look over here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14864&view=findpost&p=123085))
How "experimental" are those? I more or less now have a "stable" Zaurus I was planning on using for a while (at least until kernel 2.6 will be out :-), after playing around with various winmanagers and apps.
Also, do you know something about memory usage of 4.4 vs 4.2? I find that with the various applets and things running, 64MB is getting tight :-)
Herman
(3100)
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Bad news ? It uses more memory (for now). BTW : check your memory usage now, then reboot, restart xfce4 and check again - it should be less. the window manager of 4.2.2 has a memory leak (not severe, but if you keep it up too long it can eat some memory).
How stable : the panel crashed a few times in the last three days, but I'm challenging it. Maybe wait for the final release if you want a stable system, I just wanted to share what I've got so far.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero,
I am running the experimental packages now with no probkems. Thanks for your great work!
The onky issue I have is the battery applet - there isn't one. I have tries installing the one for your old xfce packages, but I cannot get it recognized evn if I move it to the correct directory. I do have the mb-applet-battery running in the system tray, but it does not provide much information. Could you point me to where I could get a working battery applet?
The rotation is correct in the new packages for a C1000, which is great. Besides some panel crashing when I was setting it up I have no problems with it. Thaanks!
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Chero,
I am running the experimental packages now with no problems. Thanks for your great work!
The onky issue I have is the battery applet - there isn't one. I have tries installing the one for your old xfce packages, but I cannot get it recognized evn if I move it to the correct directory. I do have the mb-applet-battery running in the system tray, but it does not provide much information. Could you point me to where I could get a working battery applet?
The rotation is correct in the new packages for a C1000, which is great. Besides some panel crashing when I was setting it up I have no problems with it. Thaanks!
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I upgraded some packages yesterday to 4.3.90.1 (which is the 4.4 beta1 release that was released last monday).
Thunar has been upgraded to 0.3.0 (beta1) too. It has been recompiled after compiling xfdesktop to be able to provide desktop icons (without rox). It kinda works, but there's some work to do.
About the battery applet : the xfce4-panel has been completely rewritten for this release. All the goodies have to be upgraded, some are ready, others aren't. I'll have to check if the battery applet has been upgraded already.
The matchbox applet doesn't provide all the info, but it shows the correct status for me (AC/Battery, red when running out of juice, ...). The good thing is that it sets the correct backlight and auto-suspend settings when changing from battery to AC.
I'll try to create some "non-experimental" packages later this week or the beginning of next week. The current packages include the "devs" and don't have any dependencies.
For those who want to try, you need at least gtk2, gnome-vfs and libxml2.
Thanks for the feedback.
Have fun,
Chero.
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I upgraded some packages yesterday to 4.3.90.1 (which is the 4.4 beta1 release that was released last monday).
Thunar has been upgraded to 0.3.0 (beta1) too. It has been recompiled after compiling xfdesktop to be able to provide desktop icons (without rox). It kinda works, but there's some work to do.
About the battery applet : the xfce4-panel has been completely rewritten for this release. All the goodies have to be upgraded, some are ready, others aren't. I'll have to check if the battery applet has been upgraded already.
The matchbox applet doesn't provide all the info, but it shows the correct status for me (AC/Battery, red when running out of juice, ...). The good thing is that it sets the correct backlight and auto-suspend settings when changing from battery to AC.
I'll try to create some "non-experimental" packages later this week or the beginning of next week. The current packages include the "devs" and don't have any dependencies.
For those who want to try, you need at least gtk2, gnome-vfs and libxml2.
Thanks for the feedback.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero,
I have tried your newest experimental packages (after removing my .config and .cache directories) and they are great! The only problem I had from the start was there is no libxfce4mcs package on your server anymore. I installed the older experimental one and everything works find.
This release is even more stable. I haven't been able to crash the panel yet after setting it up the way I want. With the older experimental packages I have to edit panels.xml to remove the second panel, with this release the GUI works great. I like that you have added back in the gtk themes and really like the defaults you have gone with. The only other problem I have is adding keyboard shorcuts: when I create a new scheme and add shortcuts to it it works fine. If I go back in to add more shortcuts, my scheme does not show up and I cannot create a new one unless I remove ~/.xml and start over. This isn't too big of a deal for me, but it is the only thing I have found so far.
Thanks again for the great work!
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I dont know if this has been asked previously or not (I didnt see it)
Is there a way to disable or hide the running task icons that show up on the Rox Pinboard?
Since I use the Taskbar on XFCE I see no sense in having them appear... if this has been answered before sorry...
Thanks
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Hi,
libxfce4mcs is back online.
About shortcuts : it seems to be a known bug. So waiting for upgraded versions seems to be the thing to do. I haven't tried it myself, my old shortcuts still work.
About the running (minimized) apps in rox : I don't know, but you can disable these in the new xfdesktop.
Read about the major changes in xfce4 4.4beta1 over here. (http://xfce-diary.blogspot.com/)
Have fun.
Chero
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About the running (minimized) apps in rox : I don't know, but you can disable these in the new xfdesktop.
Rox is what handles the pinboard... So I think it a Rox hack that I will have to find... there has to be somewhere in the config to disable them... Am I the only get that gets this?... They would really come in handy if I was running matchbox that doesnt have a taskbar...
Well... if and when I find something I will let everyone know.
Thanks Chero and keep up the good work
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I found some upgraded (unofficial) plugins while googling :
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They will be uploaded in an hour or so.
There are some more I've found, I'll try to add them later.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero:
I'm liking the upgrade Thanks!
I've installed the Terminal ipk but I get a missing libte.so.4 error and same for xfce4-terminal.
Otherwise so far so good!
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Chero:
I'm liking the upgrade Thanks!
I've installed the Terminal ipk but I get a missing libte.so.4 error and same for xfce4-terminal.
Otherwise so far so good!
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is it "libte" or "libvte" ? I had to install vte to compile things . The Depends will be added in the final ipkgs.
BTW : battery and sytemload plugin uploaded.
Some trick to have correct light and power settings : I created a second panel and made it autohide. The systray with the mb-battery-applet is on that one. On the first panel I'm running the xfce4-battery-plugin. This gives me correct management and a nice look at the same time.
Have fun,
Chero.
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My bad, it was libvte
Installing vte fixed it. I'm liking the Terminal app, I may not need mrxvt any more.
Will mousepad included in your ipks?
Thanks,
Jerry
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Mousepad will be included.
I've added a few panel plugins (netload, fsguard and diskperf). I'm not sure about diskperf, I can't figure out how to set it up.
Does anybody know where the 4.4 compatible mount-plugin source is ? I can't find it, but I read somewhere it has been ported.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Hi chero.
Great work for xfce.
How can I configure netload plugin? On "command" what I have to give?
Thanks.
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Hi chero.
Great work for xfce.
How can I configure netload plugin? On "command" what I have to give?
Thanks.
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I don't have to give a "command" for netload.
The only thing I had to set myself was "Network device:" which I set to "wlan0"
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero thanks again!
I use a CF bluetooth, so I set ppp0 and work.
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Chero can you help me with the configuration of modem lights applet?
I search, but I haven't find anything.
I set:
connection command: /etc/ppp/ppp-on
disc. command: /etc/ppp/ppp-off
device: ppp0
lockfile: ??????
What are the right settings?
Thanks.
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I don't understand how it works, so I simply set a command:
conn. command: pppd file /etc/ppp/peers/MYPROFILE
disc. command: /etc/ppp/ppp-off
It works also if they aren't the right parameters...
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I don't understand how it works, so I simply set a command:
conn. command: pppd file /etc/ppp/peers/MYPROFILE
disc. command: /etc/ppp/ppp-off
It works also if they aren't the right parameters...
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[a href=\"http://www.math.concordia.ab.ca/cgi-bin/local/cvsweb/~checkout~/xfce4-modem-lights/docs/instructions?rev=1.2;content-type=text%2Fplain]Google is my friend.[/url]
I don't know as I've never used it. I compiled it on demand.
Have fun
Chero.
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I yet found this page, but however I'm be able to config...
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so Chero, any news? Is new beta of xfce4 out?
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so Chero, any news? Is new beta of xfce4 out?
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No, it was announced, but ....
If it isn't this weekend, I'll try the latest snapshots (a lot of good things are added to xfwm, thunar and xarchiver).
Chero.
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nice one
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Thunar beta2 released, xfce 4.4 beta2 will be released tomorrow. (http://xfce-diary.blogspot.com/)
Have fun,
Chero.
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cannot wait
gonna try it immediatly; waiting for your packages. Remeber to support beta1 (latest stable for every model)
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actually beta 1 is the 'stable' release for 7x0-860 only.
beta3 is 'stable' for C1000/3100
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=131940 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19923&view=findpost&p=131940)
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sure, that is: beta1 is the latest COMMON stable for every model. Beta3 isn't stable for EVERY model, but for every model EXCEPT 7x0-860. I already spoke with Chero about the need of packages valid model-wise. Beta1 packages will be perfect for beta3 by adding a simple library for compatibility.
Sorry for being not that clear before
c'mon Chero
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c'mon Chero
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I'm working on it,
settings-manager, base libs and xarchiver (really nice) compiled, still working on the rest. I haven't got a lot of time right now, I hope to be able to continue during the weekend, cause next week I'll be on a camping trip with my kids (without Z ).
Thunar won't be included in the first release, the newer version requires some perl-modules that are not in the feeds I checked.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Hello, I just installed rox to run inside xfce4. I cannot change the background. The manual says you right click on the desktop to do it. Right click works ok on xfce4 (for instance to add things to the panel). It seems non working on the rox pinboard. I have 6000 (Tosa), pdaxrom beta1, xfce4 4.2, rox from 6000 feed beta1. The rox filer opens without a menu, just a button bar. The manual mentions and shows a menu which has configuration options.
Please help me, thank you.
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just a little bump... as a reminder
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...bump...
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...bump...
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While you were bumping I was on a camping trip, having car-troubles on my way back home and sweating a lot ...
I'll give you a pre-release of an xfce4.4beta2-all-in-ipk in a few days. (it's running on my Z and doing fine).
Do the bump ...
Chero.
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nice one
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Trying the new 4.4 beta 2 on my Z 3200. Installed to an ext2 partition on the internal drive. What I like about this beta is that it just works. Right out of the box. With 4.2 there was a lot of faffing around. Of course the plugins
should spice things up a bit!
Takes a little longer to startup though.
Some things I tried:
* aterm launcher works
* default height for taskbar (the top one) doesn't allow battery monitor to show current charge. I can just see an icon and a black bar
* Locked up when I removed the SD card (I think this maybe because I launched xfce from mnt/card or I was in mnt/card in an aterm sess)
* Needed to add SL-C3200 to the xinitrc.xfce script to get the keymaps working
* Installed rox pinboard. Seems to work ok. Haven't used rox before. Filer looks good
* sometimes I seem to lose focus and not be able to get it back (It's like it's hung but things are still updated and I can still move the cursor around). My feeling is it could be rox but it's a guess
Exiting straight after load highlighted some errors regarding not being able to load some hicolor icons, go to freedesktop.org to download.
Some questions:
* Will it possible to do the tweaks to the taskbars to make them one/hide them etc?
* Any cool features I should be aware of (s'pose I should check the XFCE website right?)
HTH
I'll continue playing...
Thanks for a great job Chero
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Some short answers, cause I don't have the time right now :
Trying the new 4.4 beta 2 on my Z 3200. Installed to an ext2 partition on the internal drive. What I like about this beta is that it just works. Right out of the box. With 4.2 there was a lot of faffing around. Of course the plugins
should spice things up a bit!
Plugins will follow, just need some time to compile and pack them.
Not sure installing to internal drive is a good idea. Previous versions only liked "/".
Takes a little longer to startup though.
Some things I tried:
* aterm launcher works
* default height for taskbar (the top one) doesn't allow battery monitor to show current charge. I can just see an icon and a black bar
right click on the panel -> customize panel -> change height (and autohide).
* Locked up when I removed the SD card (I think this maybe because I launched xfce from mnt/card or I was in mnt/card in an aterm sess)
bad idea
* Needed to add SL-C3200 to the xinitrc.xfce script to get the keymaps working
* Installed rox pinboard. Seems to work ok. Haven't used rox before. Filer looks good
* sometimes I seem to lose focus and not be able to get it back (It's like it's hung but things are still updated and I can still move the cursor around). My feeling is it could be rox but it's a guess
It's xfce (known bug, not Z-related), use alt-tab to get back in control.
Exiting straight after load highlighted some errors regarding not being able to load some hicolor icons, go to freedesktop.org to download.
hicolor theme in my contrib feed should do the trick.
Personally I switched to tango-theme, I'll package it asap.
Some questions:
* Will it possible to do the tweaks to the taskbars to make them one/hide them etc?
* Any cool features I should be aware of (s'pose I should check the XFCE website right?)
HTH
I'll continue playing...
Thanks for a great job Chero
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About taskbars : "customise panel" again.
Nice features :
"toggle full screen" shortcut
"add menu to menu button"
" ... "
Have fun,
Chero.
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Thanks Chero. I'll keep testing and report back in a week!
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Chero,
I have been testing 4.4beta2, and it works great. The only problem I have has so far is when using the menu editor it crashes. I am able to edit the config file by hand, though, so it is not such a big deal.
It would be great to have some plugins and icons packaged for this version. I have found it much more stable than the previous version I tested. The keyboard shortcuts are much easier to set in this version, as I can edit my custom scheme after it is created (this was a problem in the old version).
Thanks for your great work, and looking forward to plugins!
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Chero,
I have been testing 4.4beta2, and it works great. The only problem I have has so far is when using the menu editor it crashes. I am able to edit the config file by hand, though, so it is not such a big deal.
It would be great to have some plugins and icons packaged for this version. I have found it much more stable than the previous version I tested. The keyboard shortcuts are much easier to set in this version, as I can edit my custom scheme after it is created (this was a problem in the old version).
Thanks for your great work, and looking forward to plugins!
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sorry for the delay, my home-box had a hd-failure (crash). Not really such a big deal as I have a backup of my data, but I have to install a new hd and reinstall things first.
About the menu-editor : a known xfce 4.4 bug (BTW : it's the same in "xubuntu"). A new version of the editor will be released soon.
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero,
While I am asking you to compile things, do we need a new version of thunar and orage for this beta, or will the ones you compiled for the previous beta work? I guess I can try this for myself when I get home tongith and post my results here...
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Chero,
While I am asking you to compile things, do we need a new version of thunar and orage for this beta, or will the ones you compiled for the previous beta work? I guess I can try this for myself when I get home tongith and post my results here...
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They do work (at least the ones for beta1).
My panel at the bottom : menu - launchers - taskbar - actionbutton - batterymonitor - clock
My panel at the top : mountplugin - systray(empty) - cpugraph - systemload with memory and swap - clipboard - notes
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I'll upload them asap.
Thunar: needs libexo and libexo needs perl-URI and perl-URI doesn't want to build without rebuilding perl, so please be patient and use the previous version for now (it does work).
Orage : I'll check it out.
Have fun,
Chero.
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I don't find a volume applet...
Anyone can link me that?
Thanks.
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I don't find a volume applet...
Anyone can link me that?
Thanks.
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There is no real xfce-volume-plugin available.
There is a volume-control available in the "xmms-plugin" (which is available for 4.2.2 but not yet for 4.4beta - coming soon)
Don't know whether the mb-volume-applet will work from the xfce-systray, haven't tried.
Keep you updated,
Chero.
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I have try mb applet and work, but I don't like it becouse I use a black theme (and the applet is white), becouse it goes in systray and becouse I have to star everytime I start X.
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...becouse it goes in systray and becouse I have to star everytime I start X.
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Have you checked "autostarted applications ? (new in 4.4 beta)
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...becouse it goes in systray and becouse I have to star everytime I start X.
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Have you checked "autostarted applications ? (new in 4.4 beta)
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Yes try this. Works very well. You can use the XFCE Appfinder and right click on the program to find the commandline you need to put in the autostart section (if you're a newb like me and don't know what everything is called).
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The old version of Thunar does work, but it expects libxfce4util.so.2, which doesn't seem to exist in the new beta. I create a link for this file from the existing libxfce4util.so, which seems to have worked fine. I will test out orage too, even though I have never used it before. It sounds interesting.
Thanks Chero.
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The old version of Thunar does work, but it expects libxfce4util.so.2, which doesn't seem to exist in the new beta. I create a link for this file from the existing libxfce4util.so, which seems to have worked fine.
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I took a note of this, I installed the new over the old, so in my case libxfce4util.so.2 already existed.
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Orage works as well, but you need to restart xfce in order to get it to start up. I don't know if the same symlink applies that does to thunar - I already had it in my system at this point. I can take it out and test it if that would be helpful.
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They do work (at least the ones for beta1).
My panel at the bottom : menu - launchers - taskbar - actionbutton - batterymonitor - clock
My panel at the top : mountplugin - systray(empty) - cpugraph - systemload with memory and swap - clipboard - notes
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I'm bit confused (easily done). Can you confirm where you get these apps from?
Thanks.
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They do work (at least the ones for beta1).
My panel at the bottom : menu - launchers - taskbar - actionbutton - batterymonitor - clock
My panel at the top : mountplugin - systray(empty) - cpugraph - systemload with memory and swap - clipboard - notes
...
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I'm bit confused (easily done). Can you confirm where you get these apps from?
Thanks.
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Download them here : [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/]http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/[/url]
If you go in the dir for "xfce 4.4 beta2", you can find the xfce-core package and the beta2 versions of orage, mousepad and xarchiver.
I'll upload the rest of the plugins asap.
BTW: don't forget to read "experimental"
Have fun,
Chero.
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hi Chero, wish you had a nice holyday
have you released 4.4 beta2 ipks?
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he said yesterday he will release them asap.
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the fact is that ipk inside the experimental/4.4beta2 are not what they should be.
Maybe he will change them, since thay don't work on beta1
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the fact is that ipk inside the experimental/4.4beta2 are not what they should be.
Maybe he will change them, since thay don't work on beta1
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I had the beta-1 cross-compiler setup on my home box and was compiling xfce 4.4 beta 2. Then this happended :[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14031&view=findpost&p=140061]this post.[/url]. I expect my new hd to arrive in the next week, but I have quite a busy week or two to come ...
The ipkgs in experimental/4.4beta2 seem to work fine for CXX00 devices running beta3. I see there is a beta3 image provided for CXX0 devices by pgas, maybe that will make the ipkgs run on these devices as well ? I compiled them natively, using the zgcc for beta1 (xfce 4.4 beta1 was compiled using the beta3-compiler). I hoped they would be linked to libiconv that way instead of glibc-iconv, but something else seems to be wrong to make them compatible to the CXX0. I'm sorry for this, but I've tried and I don't have a CXX0 any more so I can't do a native compile on such a device. For now I see only three options :
1. wait untill I have reinstalled my home box, I can crosscompile xfce using the beta1 compiler or the builder (that was the plan before the crash).
2. hope someone else does it, using a CXX0.
3. try beta3 provided by pgas (it might work, then again, it might not)
I can't downgrade to beta1 on my Z right now, I need it for my job too much, sorry for letting CXX0 users down, but please don't make it sound like I don't want to.
If someone tries beta3 and xfce 4.4beta2 on a CXX0, please report success or failure.
The message seems to be : we need the same (stable) beta or rc for all devices.
Thanks,
Chero.
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I've mentioned before but thought it relevant to mention again here that I'm running pdaXrom beta 3 with XFCE 4.4 beta 2 on my C3200.
I've installed a few plugins and they seem to be working ok. Once I've completed my analysis I'll post more info.
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be sure I won't think you are not doing it for laziness
I insist only to avoid xfce4-on-zaurus death, since I appreciated all your work on it, and to make other users know about xfce4-on-zaurus status.
Finally, nothing forbid me to work toward compiling it by myself, so I'm in debt with what you did till now.
Keep your time, I'll try to get a working pdaxrom development machine to help you.
Until that moment, I'll bump this post from time to time
the fact is that ipk inside the experimental/4.4beta2 are not what they should be.
Maybe he will change them, since thay don't work on beta1
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I had the beta-1 cross-compiler setup on my home box and was compiling xfce 4.4 beta 2. Then this happended :[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14031&view=findpost&p=140061]this post.[/url]. I expect my new hd to arrive in the next week, but I have quite a busy week or two to come ...
The ipkgs in experimental/4.4beta2 seem to work fine for CXX00 devices running beta3. I see there is a beta3 image provided for CXX0 devices by pgas, maybe that will make the ipkgs run on these devices as well ? I compiled them natively, using the zgcc for beta1 (xfce 4.4 beta1 was compiled using the beta3-compiler). I hoped they would be linked to libiconv that way instead of glibc-iconv, but something else seems to be wrong to make them compatible to the CXX0. I'm sorry for this, but I've tried and I don't have a CXX0 any more so I can't do a native compile on such a device. For now I see only three options :
1. wait untill I have reinstalled my home box, I can crosscompile xfce using the beta1 compiler or the builder (that was the plan before the crash).
2. hope someone else does it, using a CXX0.
3. try beta3 provided by pgas (it might work, then again, it might not)
I can't downgrade to beta1 on my Z right now, I need it for my job too much, sorry for letting CXX0 users down, but please don't make it sound like I don't want to.
If someone tries beta3 and xfce 4.4beta2 on a CXX0, please report success or failure.
The message seems to be : we need the same (stable) beta or rc for all devices.
Thanks,
Chero.
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I've installed xfce4-battery-plugin and xfce4-netload-plugin but can't find how to run/use them. Any ideas?
Terminal, mousepad, orage and thunar seem to work fine. I needed to install gconf, orbit and vte from the beta 3 feed to get some of them to work, and also libxfce4util as mentioned previously.
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I've installed xfce4-battery-plugin and xfce4-netload-plugin but can't find how to run/use them. Any ideas?
Terminal, mousepad, orage and thunar seem to work fine. I needed to install gconf, orbit and vte from the beta 3 feed to get some of them to work, and also libxfce4util as mentioned previously.
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right-click (fn + tap) on the panel -> add item -> ...
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Hi.
For now I have to use 4.2. Anyone can explain me how to disconnect for a lan.
I use wavelan plugin, but it's seem take 70%cpu...why?
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First, a big thank-you for Chero. Without your work, there's no chance I could figure the whole thing out
I am currently using 4.2.2(tried 4.4beta but was a bit unstable, maybe my mistake). The problem is, I cannot change the menu.xml file using the Properties panel. Whenever I try to choose another menu.xml file by clicking the file-open dialog button, xfce4-panel crashes with a segmentation fault(no other error message). I installed both dbh and libxml2.
Another problem is the key-mapping one, which is described in this this thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21361&hl=).
Anyone any idea?
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First, a big thank-you for Chero. Without your work, there's no chance I could figure the whole thing out
I am currently using 4.2.2(tried 4.4beta but was a bit unstable, maybe my mistake). The problem is, I cannot change the menu.xml file using the Properties panel. Whenever I try to choose another menu.xml file by clicking the file-open dialog button, xfce4-panel crashes with a segmentation fault(no other error message). I installed both dbh and libxml2.
Another problem is the key-mapping one, which is described in this this thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21361&hl=).
Anyone any idea?
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Make sure you have the hicolor icons installed. I had some instability similar to what you describe and found things a lot better after installing the hicolor ipk.
HTH
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System crashed for some reason I don't know, re-installed xfce4 basic package, and the menu-editing feature works now. Guess I am happy as long as it works
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i forgot the following:
in xinitrc.xfce4 add the following line:
rox --pinboard=(the name you put in before... i.e. MYPINBOARD)
[/b]
this makes the pinboard appear after a reboot automatically. but it is important to type in the same name as before else you will get again this blank desktop with the home folder.
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Where should this be put in the xinitrc.xfce4?
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i forgot the following:
in xinitrc.xfce4 add the following line:
rox --pinboard=(the name you put in before... i.e. MYPINBOARD)
[/b]
this makes the pinboard appear after a reboot automatically. but it is important to type in the same name as before else you will get again this blank desktop with the home folder.
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Where should this be put in the xinitrc.xfce4?
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If I recall correctly, you can put it on the line after you call xfce4-session, but you can also put it in the Autostart Applications. I think doing it the latter way might load it a bit slower.
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Sorry if this has already been covered, but 16 pages is a lot to look through. I have XFCE4 4.2.2 and the battery plugin 0.4.0, but I can't find it when I right click on the panel and select 'Add new item'. Also, I can't use Fn+(other key) (this is kind of an issue when trying to log in here ). A RAM/CPU usage plugin would also be nice. Is there a solution to any of these problems?
Thanks.
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Sorry if this has already been covered, but 16 pages is a lot to look through. I have XFCE4 4.2.2 and the battery plugin 0.4.0, but I can't find it when I right click on the panel and select 'Add new item'. Also, I can't use Fn+(other key) (this is kind of an issue when trying to log in here ). A RAM/CPU usage plugin would also be nice. Is there a solution to any of these problems?
Thanks.
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I had the same experience with battery plugin 0.4.0 and have gone back to 0.3.0. Not sure what the problem is, but it just does not show up in the list for me.
On the Fn key issue this has been discussed [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21361] HERE [/url], but without much luck. I have managed to allocate Fn+(other key) commands by a combination of the the windows manger settings and manually editing the keythemes file. Unfortunately, the settings do not seem to survive restarting xfce4. Maybe this can be fixed somewhere in the .xinitric.xfce4 file, but I am too much of a newbie to have a clue where to start!
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Sorry if this has already been covered, but 16 pages is a lot to look through. I have XFCE4 4.2.2 and the battery plugin 0.4.0, but I can't find it when I right click on the panel and select 'Add new item'. Also, I can't use Fn+(other key) (this is kind of an issue when trying to log in here ). A RAM/CPU usage plugin would also be nice. Is there a solution to any of these problems?
Thanks.
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I had the same experience with battery plugin 0.4.0 and have gone back to 0.3.0. Not sure what the problem is, but it just does not show up in the list for me.
On the Fn key issue this has been discussed [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21361] HERE [/url], but without much luck. I have managed to allocate Fn+(other key) commands by a combination of the the windows manger settings and manually editing the keythemes file. Unfortunately, the settings do not seem to survive restarting xfce4. Maybe this can be fixed somewhere in the .xinitric.xfce4 file, but I am too much of a newbie to have a clue where to start!
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The battery plugin : 0.4 is for the 4.4 betas , 0.3 is for the 4.2.2 ipk. The panel has changed a lot from 4.2 to 4.4, so the plugins aren't compatible.
The fn-key :
Does fn-tap give you a right click ? I'm asking this to know whether the xmodmap file has been loaded. If it does, then you are talking about the "special fn-commands", otherwise you are missing a lot of keys.
Chero.
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The battery plugin : 0.4 is for the 4.4 betas , 0.3 is for the 4.2.2 ipk. The panel has changed a lot from 4.2 to 4.4, so the plugins aren't compatible.
The fn-key :
Does fn-tap give you a right click ? I'm asking this to know whether the xmodmap file has been loaded. If it does, then you are talking about the "special fn-commands", otherwise you are missing a lot of keys.
Chero.
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Hi there Chero, thanks for the response and the great work.
Battery plugin - I thought that was probably the problem there!
Function key - Yes Fn+tap does give me a right click. I changed my .xinitrc.xfce4 file to include the keymappings for the C1000 etc, so I also have the standard Fn+ commands (eg Fn+e gives me the = sign). It is just the special function commands that I cannot get to "stick" after a restart. It would be nice if there was a fix, but fortunately we have the two kanji keys and mapping them to the special commands (like setting screen brightness) does seem to stick.
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Just so people know, with my SL-C750, I just added "|SL-C750" to the line that already contains "SL-C860|Sl-C760" in xinitrc.xfce4. These settings survived a reboot. Everything seems to work except fn+(number key here). For some reason those still don't work.
I thought that somebody might like to know this.
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Hello to everyone...
I wish to install xfce onto the pdaxrom installation of my sl-c1000 but I made a root partition of 58 MB and after the installation of gaim only, I have 6 MB free.
Chero suggests to install xfce into internal memory but I ve only 6 MB free.
Shall I resize root parition or have you some advices for me?
The question I ask myself is why the pdaxrom installation suggests only 50 MB when after the installation you have only 7-8 mb free for the software.
Ok you can install the software in other places, but the other 2 partitions of flash , /home/
and /home /user ( I think ) can't be used to install software? I can't see them in ipkg.conf so I can think simply is not possible.
Why these 2 partitons are so big if we consider / is only 58 MB ?
Thanks to everyone
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Well, I finally think that I have the 4.2.2 version of xfce4 running how I want it and am using it as my main WM now.
So I guess it is time to play around with the new 4.4 beta ( ), just wondering if any of the 4.2.2 plugins might work with the beta.
Anyone?
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Well, I finally think that I have the 4.2.2 version of xfce4 running how I want it and am using it as my main WM now.
So I guess it is time to play around with the new 4.4 beta ( ), just wondering if any of the 4.2.2 plugins might work with the beta.
Anyone?
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No, incompatible panel.
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Well, I finally think that I have the 4.2.2 version of xfce4 running how I want it and am using it as my main WM now.
So I guess it is time to play around with the new 4.4 beta ( ), just wondering if any of the 4.2.2 plugins might work with the beta.
Anyone?
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No, incompatible panel.
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I thought that might be the case, still I think I will probably have a play around with the 4.4 beta anyway - I like the idea of maybe being able to do away with rox and using xfce alone with desktip icons. I think you said that was possible somewhere in the thread, but I cannot find it now
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Well, I finally think that I have the 4.2.2 version of xfce4 running how I want it and am using it as my main WM now.
So I guess it is time to play around with the new 4.4 beta ( ), just wondering if any of the 4.2.2 plugins might work with the beta.
Anyone?
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No, incompatible panel.
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some additional plugins added [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/xfce4-4.4-beta2/]over here.[/url]
Have fun.
Chero.
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Well, I finally think that I have the 4.2.2 version of xfce4 running how I want it and am using it as my main WM now.
So I guess it is time to play around with the new 4.4 beta ( ), just wondering if any of the 4.2.2 plugins might work with the beta.
Anyone?
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No, incompatible panel.
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some additional plugins added [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/xfce4-4.4-beta2/]over here.[/url]
Have fun.
Chero.
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Wow - you have been busy!
Now I will definately be trying out the beta packages...
Of course, I will post my experiences as I go.
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For those who want to know :
Workflow I followed :
- flashed beta3 (yesterday)
- added the beta3 feed, the beta1 C7x0-860 feed and anunakin's feed to package manager (all on www.pdaxrom.org)
- installed gnumeric and gftp using the package manager
- installed vte using the package manager (need it for Terminal)
- downloaded and installed the xfce4-4.3.90.2 ipk
- downloaded and installed Terminal, libexo and thunar (from the parent dir)
- downloaded and installed xarchiver
- downloaded and installed xfce4-battery-plugin (and some others)
Then I startxfce4, try to launch Terminal but get an error : missing libxfce4util.so.2
I did : ln -s /usr/lib/libxfce4util.so.0.0 /usr/lib/libxfce4util.so.2Then I tried to launch terminal again and it now works.
I right-clicked the panel and started adding plugins (same here, libxfce4util.so.2 is needed - I guess I'd better add it to the ipk )
So, flashed and have xfce 4.4 beta2 running again after approx. 15 minutes.
Now I'll package the tango-theme, so it will look nice again.
Have fun,
Chero.
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ok: I'm gonna try, since the r121 doesn't work on 860.
Thanks
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ok: I'm gonna try, since the r121 doesn't work on 860.
Thanks
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Don't know about c860 - maybe try xfce4-session from a terminal in open(match)box first.
Chero.
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Wow - you have been busy!
Now I will definately be trying out the beta packages...
Of course, I will post my experiences as I go.
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Well, I have been busy loading my C1000 up with the new beta packages and so far have not had problems with any of them except the wavelan plug in which just does not show up in the list when I go to add a plugin.
****EDIT****
No wonder the wavlan plugin doesn't work - I just realised it is for the old version!
****EDIT****
At the moment I have the taksbar, orage clock,battery monitor, cpu graph, xfce menu running in the panel proper and the MatchBox volume control running in the sys tray.
I cannot be 100% sure, but this version does seem to be more of a memory hog than the old version. Firefox, for example, seems to take even loooooonger than usual to load and Anunakin's[/b] latest freeciv ipk freezes after loading the startup screen whereas it will run in my MatchBox/rox setup (although I still have not worked out if you can play a single player game in it or not - but that is another story...).
All in all, very happy with the switch!
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Followed your footsteps and everything worked out fine on my c3200 with beta3. I have xfce4 and rox and my keymap works properly...BUT
Fn+3 /Fn+4 doesn't work for backlight. In startxfce4 I found -kb in the defaultserverargs line, so what's wrong? Any hint? Can anyone post his working xinitrc.xfce? Thanks in advance.
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Hey Chero,
Thanks for all the work making the packages for xfce!
Its definately my favorite X manager and use it for everything..
I was just wondering though if you could make a wiki for the installation/current bugs/updates/etc of xfce because 18 pages of forums is a little too much to read for most people
Itd be nice if we could organize things like this into concise wiki's.
I have something in mind like the Gentoo Wikis. great stuff.
anyways, just a suggestion. if youre too busy, dont worry about it
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Followed your footsteps and everything worked out fine on my c3200 with beta3. I have xfce4 and rox and my keymap works properly...BUT
Fn+3 /Fn+4 doesn't work for backlight. In startxfce4 I found -kb in the defaultserverargs line, so what's wrong? Any hint? Can anyone post his working xinitrc.xfce? Thanks in advance.
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You might want to check out [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21361] THIS [/url] thead for some more info on this topic.
Basically, I had the same question as you, and although I managed to map the fn keys to work for backlighting etc, the setting did not stick through a restart of xfce.
I have ended up compromising and mapping them to alt=3 and alt+4.
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I installed XFCE 4.4 beta2. The toolbar/menu icons in applications are missing, replaced by the square with cross mark in it when I tried to change the user interface theme to xfce-dusk. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm new to Linux and just flashed my C1000 with pdaXrom
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I installed XFCE 4.4 beta2. The toolbar/menu icons in applications are missing, replaced by the square with cross mark in it when I tried to change the user interface theme to xfce-dusk. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm new to Linux and just flashed my C1000 with pdaXrom
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You might want to make sure the hicolor ipk is installed. it can be found in [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/xfce4-4.4-beta2/hicolor_0.0.1_armv5tel.ipk]Chero's ipks[/url]
The xfce-dusk theme works on my 3100 running r121
One of the other fun things about xfce (and all related ipks) is that it REALLY likes living in / instead of another destination.
# ipkg -d root install
Hope that helps.
--webslngr
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What packages do I need to install to run the the XFCE beta 2?
Also, can I use the old plugins with the beta 2 version of XFCE? I mostly want the taskbar plugin.
If this has already been asked, sorry to ask again, but 18 pages is a lot!
Thanks.
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What packages do I need to install to run the the XFCE beta 2?
Also, can I use the old plugins with the beta 2 version of XFCE? I mostly want the taskbar plugin.
If this has already been asked, sorry to ask again, but 18 pages is a lot!
Thanks.
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The panel plugins from 4.2 and before do not work the the newest (4.3 / 4.4beta) panel.
I installed the (as chero points out) "experimental" version this way:
download:
Terminal_0.2.5.r20943_armv5tel.ipk
libexo_0.3.1.6.beta1_armv5tel.ipk
popt_1.6.4_armv5tel.ipk
startxfce4
thunar_0.3.0.beta1_armv5tel.ipk
xinitrc.xfce
from [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/]HERE[/url]
use:# ipkg -force-depends -d root install download everything from HERE (http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/xfce4-4.4-beta2/)
install everything excluding the plugins you don't want.
I used a for loop to do the work:# for i in `ls -1 *.ipk`; do ipkg -force-depends -d root install $i; doneCopy the xinitrc.xfce to your ~. Because I am running R121 (I think this is the reason) , I had to hack the xinit.xfce a little. Here is a section of mine:MODEL=`cat /proc/deviceinfo/product`
MODEL=SL-3100
echo 'MODEL:'$MODEL
case "$MODEL" in
SL-C860|SL-C760|SL-C750|SL-7500|SL-C700)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/corgi.xmodmap
;;
SL-6000)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap
;;
SL-C1000|SL-C3000|SL-C3100)
test -f /etc/X11/kb/Akita/xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/Akita/xmodmap
;;
*)
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'Sharp-Collie' 2>/dev/null >/dev/null && test -f /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap && xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/collie.xmodmap
;;
esacnotice the "MODEL=SL-3100" and related xmodmap lines
I think I even had to make a link from libxfce4util.so.4.0.0 to libxfce4util.so.2
# ln -s /usr/lib/libxfce4util.so.4.0.0 /usr/lib/libxfce4util.so.2 to get some of the plugins and xfce-related apps to work. You can tell if there are libxfce4util errors on the screen after you quit X
If I think of anything else, I'll edit this post.
Good luck,
--webslngr
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I installed XFCE 4.4 beta2. The toolbar/menu icons in applications are missing, replaced by the square with cross mark in it when I tried to change the user interface theme to xfce-dusk. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm new to Linux and just flashed my C1000 with pdaXrom
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You might want to make sure the hicolor ipk is installed. it can be found in [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/xfce4-4.4-beta2/hicolor_0.0.1_armv5tel.ipk]Chero's ipks[/url]
The xfce-dusk theme works on my 3100 running r121
One of the other fun things about xfce (and all related ipks) is that it REALLY likes living in / instead of another destination.
# ipkg -d root install
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the reply, I tried it and it doesn't work. However, the XFCE works pretty well and I really like it. Losing one theme won't stop me from using it So... we can actually use XFCE in r121... temptations... Would you share your experience using XFCE in r121? If it is stable enough, then I really want to try it. I'm using beta3 at the moment.
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Hi Chero, starting xfce-session from inside X works properly, while startxfce4 script doesnt. Any idea?
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Hi Chero, starting xfce-session from inside X works properly, while startxfce4 script doesnt. Any idea?
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I guess there is something wrong with the script
Could you PM me you're startx script ?
Chero.
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Thanks for the reply, I tried it and it doesn't work. However, the XFCE works pretty well and I really like it. Losing one theme won't stop me from using it So... we can actually use XFCE in r121... temptations... Would you share your experience using XFCE in r121? If it is stable enough, then I really want to try it. I'm using beta3 at the moment.
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So far it is fine. I haven't had any real problems with it. xfrun4 doesn't seem to be in the package; it throws a lot of errors on the console while running, but nothing serious.
I am in and out of it quite a bit, so I can't comment on the long term stability, but imagine it is fine. it goes in and out of suspends with out too much trouble as well.
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Hi Chero, starting xfce-session from inside X works properly, while startxfce4 script doesnt. Any idea?
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I'm having the same problem with xfce4 on r121. I am using a c860.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Hi Chero, starting xfce-session from inside X works properly, while startxfce4 script doesnt. Any idea?
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I'm having the same problem with xfce4 on r121. I am using a c860.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Could you PM me your startx script ?
Chero.
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Sorry Chero but I have managed to drop back to beta 3 and haven't installed xfce4 there yet. If I have problems I'll shout. Thanks for your hard work making the Z more like the laptop it ought to be!
Best Wishes
John
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Finally, I flashed my C1000 to r121 and installed xfce4. The main problem with xfce is when I quit the xfce, all of the stuff in the panel are gone (the error is: "unexpectedly removed") and I don't have the logout dialog as well. There were also some messages about segmentation fault in xfce-session. Does it mean that I have to compile xfce using pdaX r121 if I want it to work in r121?
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Hello,
I installed some extra icon-themes for xfce :
The screenshot shows "Gant for xfce" : I found it here. (http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/5/110712/xfce4-gant-icons-3-9.2.tar.bz2) (it's big (16Mb) so you'd better install outside /)
I also use "Tango for xfce" (not as complete, but very nice) I found it here. (http://dsslive.org/xfce/Tango-xfce.tar.gz) (not as big - about 2Mb)
Having fun,
Chero.
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Questions,
I'm setting up xfce4 beta and have ran into a few issues. I've read through the posts here at least twice and haven't really seen answers, so here goes.
First, when applications are minimized they iconify to the desktop, which I don't want since there is that nice task bar. Any way to disable this?
Second, menueditor is segment faulting when I try to make any changes. I am using the default menu, and thought maybe the reason is you can not edit this, thus the segfault? And if so where should I copy the default from to have a starting point for a custom.
And lastly (for now), what should I be using for general volume control, or is that even needed since most players have their own.
Thanks in advance,
-TheWalt
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Questions,
I'm setting up xfce4 beta and have ran into a few issues. I've read through the posts here at least twice and haven't really seen answers, so here goes.
First, when applications are minimized they iconify to the desktop, which I don't want since there is that nice task bar. Any way to disable this?
Go to "settings - desktop settings", you can choose between "minimized apps" and "none".
Second, menueditor is segment faulting when I try to make any changes. I am using the default menu, and thought maybe the reason is you can not edit this, thus the segfault? And if so where should I copy the default from to have a starting point for a custom.
This is a known xfce-bug, solved in xfce 4.4 rc1. I'm waiting for the final 4.4 release to compile and pack for pdaX.
For now, you can edit your menu using any editor (nedit, mc, ...).
And lastly (for now), what should I be using for general volume control, or is that even needed since most players have their own.
Thanks in advance,
-TheWalt
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Never needed it. I'll check if I can find a panel-plugin.
The other way : add a systray to your panel, then launch "volume control" (it's in "accessories").
Have fun,
Chero.
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Icon themes:
Rodent (default)
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Tango:
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Gant :
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Nuvola :
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Go to "settings - desktop settings", you can choose between "minimized apps" and "none".
Super, read that a dozen times and it never clicked.
This is a known xfce-bug, solved in xfce 4.4 rc1. I'm waiting for the final 4.4 release to compile and pack for pdaX.
For now, you can edit your menu using any editor (nedit, mc, ...).
Hopefully that will be soon, RC2 came out today I see. Might hold off until final for any major customizing.
Never needed it. I'll check if I can find a panel-plugin.
The other way : add a systray to your panel, then launch "volume control" (it's in "accessories").
I tried adding the systray but the icons don't seem to show, but they are there. If I click in the space the volume slider or cf/sd mount for example does pop up, so it is 'working'. Finding out that like you, it doesn't seem to be a big deal though so not worried about it.
Thanks for all your work, except for tracking down some dependant ipk's this install went very well. Looks like, as I thought to begin with, I'll be running Xfce from now on
- TheWalt
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When try quit XFCE4 the "quit screen" (logout, reboot, save session) take long, long time to apear, any know this issue ?
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My works fine.
However I've reinstalled beta1+xfce and now I have some problem...
Apm works only via hard button. If I do apm -s, then pdax doesn't resume.
Another prob is that I can't be able to map a key for the menu.
I use xfce-desktop - menu, but the menu popup on the mouse position, instead first I can reach to popup in the menu position, but I don't remember the command...
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i have more issues, im working, if anyone ahve a fix letme lnow.
- Battery plugin dont show pop with percent of batery (im tring new things )
- Logout take a long time to apears
- About screen dont work
- Autscrool - some times te screen is rotate when open (not rotate de lcd), just open and this get wrong position
Checo, why note you create a new section in Wiki excluse for xfce4 things ? , this topic is so big to find issues.
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i have more issues, im working, if anyone ahve a fix letme lnow.
- Battery plugin dont show pop with percent of batery (im tring new things )
- Logout take a long time to apears
- About screen dont work
- Autscrool - some times te screen is rotate when open (not rotate de lcd), just open and this get wrong position
Checo, why note you create a new section in Wiki excluse for xfce4 things ? , this topic is so big to find issues.
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My battery plugin does. put the stylus on the desktop just above the plugin, slide to the battery icon et voila ...
I don't recall logout taking long, but I'm on r121 with xfce4.4rc2 now, so I can't test.
The about screen : perhaps it misses the info to put in it (I left out some files to cut down the size)
don't know about autorotate, anyone else ?
I know we should have a wiki page for this, but I'm running out of time. First I want to try meanies pdax for c3000. Running from HD could be a great advantage. When installing apps to external storage, it seems libs break sometimes (I've had this issue with xfce, tuxcards, kdepimpi, firefox, ...). That was one of the things I liked about OZ. Not to mention the fact that some apps just can't be installed on external storage.
If I can run xfce on the "full-hd-install" and gdm and bluetooth are working on it as well, next thing might be starting this wiki-page.
Then there is my wife, 2 kids, a non-9-to-5-job, the house I'm rebuilding, a 7.000m² garden, 2 dogs, some rabbits, goats and chickens, ... .
Have fun,
Chero.
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Chero,
you make ipkg for xfce4.4rc2 ? where i canf find them..
many thnkx :B
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Chero,
you make ipkg for xfce4.4rc2 ? where i canf find them..
many thnkx :B
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[a href=\"http://www.karma-lab.net/zaurus/experimental/]ULHume's experimental feed[/url]
I thought beta2 was more stable then rc2 ... Maybe it's r121 ... don't know.
As far as I know these packages were compiled for r121. I don't know if they are OK for beta1/2/3 .
Just add the feed in package manager (browsing the page doesn't seem to show all packages)
Chero.
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Hi everyone
I've always been a big XFCE4 fan on the desktop platform, and I think I would love a PDA with XFCE4. Realistically though, I only have a c700, which I am sure is too slow to run XFCE4 and X apps at a decent speed. On more modern Zs though, how is the speed? Is it really usable for everyday work or is it more like a fun toy?
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On more modern Zs though, how is the speed?
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Runs great for every day use on my 3200.
Runs a little slow on my 6000.
I'm just using the panel with some plugins and the desktop for the menu however. The full distribution runs okay, but it's a little heavy for my taste as far as daily needs go. (The same can be said for my desktop computers as well, so it's really just a personal preference)
Is it really usable for everyday work or is it more like a fun toy?
Depends entirely what you're trying to do. That's a difficult question that I've been trying to answer for years now. I'm still trying to answer this.
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Hi there,
three questions are still open for me:
1.) i would like to change the links in the "xfce menu", especially because
some of my games and office-programs are now stored under "others".
How do i do that?
2.) second: i would like to have the "Menu"-Button on my Z working with
the "xfce-menu", so i havent to use my stylus to start a programm every time. Any clues what i have to change in the xmodmap-file?
3.) the icons of some programs like "rox" and "epdf" arent working. He shows
only the "red x"-icon.
one of the warnings (in xterm there are many of the same type listed):
(ROX-Filer:2165): Gtk-Warning **: Error loading icon: Couldn´t recognize the
image file format for file ´/usr/share/icons/Rodent/Scalable/stock/rox-show-details.svg´
Thx in advance,
Nico
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- Hurm. Loaded pdaXii13 5.4.4 and decided I really didn't like UI even a little bit. Fortunately there *are* alternatives, and they're right on the feed, so I installed xfce4 and a bunch of plugins from the pdaXii13 feed that's listed in its package manager.
- It ran right out of the box, but it's in portrait and I see no obvious way to rotate. Will xrandr do that?
- I also hacked Meanie's xinitrc to run like pdaXii13 expects, but it loads NO matchbox/openbox/anybox binaries of any kind, and it runs xfce4-session instead. This works pretty much identically to the xinitrc.xfce4 that came with it ... takes a little longer to start up 'cause it's doing more, but it still runs xfce fine as you please, in portrait. I'm pretty sure this is simple to fix but haven't found that simple solution after wandering around this thread. Could someone clue me in? Thanks!!
- I can run either the default matchbox/whatever X that pdaXii13 comes with, or I can run startxfce4 and run that. Both are loaded and Hiroshi is set to boot to console so I can play with either one equally easily. Right now it's running matchbox so I can have multiple command windows to mess with this. (grin) Once I get xfce in landscape I'll see about panels and suchlike to put things where I want them.
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To put XFCE in landscape, type "xrandr -o right" in a terminal. To get it to start up in landscape (you probably want this), put "xrandr -o right" right before "xfce4-session" in your .xinitrc file for XFCE.
I have a similar setup to yours with two startx scripts (startx for Matchbox and startxfce4 for XFCE) and additionally have startice, startxkde and startxfluxbox scripts (a lot of WMs, I know).
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- I can't read past page 19, keeps says too many connections from the SQL server, and that there may be a db corruption. Hope someone can read this!
<edit>When I add this post, it shows me the post I just added, and I can in fact see what T3_slider put in. Thanks for the tip!!</edit>
<reedit>This none-viewing thing only happened in dillo on the Z. Using Firefox on the laptop I have no problems, so it may be a dillo thing. Stuck the xrandr command in as suggested and alles ist gut!! Finally I have no icons or other cluttery junk of any kind on Hiro's desktop. (wistfully happy sigh) And the clock's been happy today, too. Bonus!</reedit>
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I know this bug in pdaxii13
use in terminal
"xrand -o right" or "xrand -o left" or "xrandr -o normal"
and them write this string in .xinitrc script in home dir.
- I can't read past page 19, keeps says too many connections from the SQL server, and that there may be a db corruption. Hope someone can read this!
<edit>When I add this post, it shows me the post I just added, and I can in fact see what T3_slider put in. Thanks for the tip!!</edit>
<reedit>This none-viewing thing only happened in dillo on the Z. Using Firefox on the laptop I have no problems, so it may be a dillo thing. Stuck the xrandr command in as suggested and alles ist gut!! Finally I have no icons or other cluttery junk of any kind on Hiro's desktop. (wistfully happy sigh) And the clock's been happy today, too. Bonus!</reedit>
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