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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: omro on July 28, 2005, 05:35:04 am
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Hi All,
I've just recently had some success putting OpenOffice on my Z via Meanie's jumbo-xqt package and the debian packages. It's great.
Are there plans to have OpenOffice in pdaXrom, without having to go into a different environment to run it? I would assume that would make things faster too.
Just curious
Owen
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Is it responsive? How long does it take to start up? How much memory does it use?
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On my C1000, running via debian on XQT open office is painfully slow to start up. You can type inside it at a reasonable speed inside the writer application. If you move from cell to cell within the calc application, there is a slight delay. Opening and saving documents has a very noticeable delay. The menus and option windows are pretty slow.
I think the way it has been installed is partially to blame for the speed, mainly because it's on an SD card, in some sort of virtual file system and I'm not sure how much of a hit the system is taking for running X windows and debian within Qtopia in the first place.
I would be willing to bet that if it were run natively within pdaXrom, it would be a bit quicker.
However, the speed really doesn't faze me. I can now open all my openoffice documents from my Mac without having to translate them first or bring my mac with me where ever I am. It's great, I'm happy, it's a big step forward for me!
I liked my flirtation with pdaXrom, it seemed (to me) the most exciting rom I've seen so far. With openoffice the next release would be awesome!
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Hello,
I've been running openoffice on pdaxrom (through pocketworkstation) and on sharp roms. (The whole thing was running on pdaX before it got to X/Qt)
My feeling is that it is definately faster on pdaXrom.
The other benefit is that you can start debian apps (e.g. openoffice) from within the pdaX window manager. You don't notice the difference with native pdaX apps.
(from an aterm just : # Crd soffice &)
Read the thread about "Debian on pdaXrom".
Chero.
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I totally understand what you're saying, but....
wouldn't it just be far more efficient, ultimately, to incorporate Openoffice into pdaXrom natively?
I know it will take some time and effort and someone's willingness to do this. But pdaXrom running openoffice should be quicker than pdaXrom running openoffice through debian, no?
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I totally understand what you're saying, but....
wouldn't it just be far more efficient, ultimately, to incorporate Openoffice into pdaXrom natively?
I know it will take some time and effort and someone's willingness to do this. But pdaXrom running openoffice should be quicker than pdaXrom running openoffice through debian, no?
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I'm not sure. I've been testing and launching native firefox takes the same time as Crd firefox (debian). You just need less storage.
When I've got more time and 4 gb of free space I'll surely try to compile it.
Chero.
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When I've got more time and 4 gb of free space I'll surely try to compile it.
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A fast(er) running OpenOffice natively on pdaXrom would be enough to make me leave qtopia far behind.
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i will try install openoffice .i will use glibc2.3.2 in pdaxrom.i have updated glibc2.2.5 to glibc2.3.2.it is very cool
openoffice needs glibc>2.2.8.hehe
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I'm not really that knowledgeable about the underpinnings of linux, what effect will that have?
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i will try install openoffice .i will use glibc2.3.2 in pdaxrom.i have updated glibc2.2.5 to glibc2.3.2.it is very cool
openoffice needs glibc>2.2.8.hehe
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Any chance you can put up an ipk or a tar.gz of glibc-2.3.2 ?
Chero
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Obviously a higher version of anything is usually a good thing, but in what way is this useful? Probably a dumb question I know, but I'm curious.
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Obviously a higher version of anything is usually a good thing, but in what way is this useful? Probably a dumb question I know, but I'm curious.
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The arm-port of openoffice (the installer of ...) is based on glibc 2.3. So, if we want the openoffice installer working on pdaX, we need an upgrade of glibc.
Chero
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i will try install openoffice .i will use glibc2.3.2 in pdaxrom.i have updated glibc2.2.5 to glibc2.3.2.it is very cool
openoffice needs glibc>2.2.8.hehe
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Any chance you can put up an ipk or a tar.gz of glibc-2.3.2 ?
Chero
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the right is "布布" from hongkong
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i will try install openoffice .i will use glibc2.3.2 in pdaxrom.i have updated glibc2.2.5 to glibc2.3.2.it is very cool
openoffice needs glibc>2.2.8.hehe
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Any chance you can put up an ipk or a tar.gz of glibc-2.3.2 ?
Chero
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the right is "布布" from hongkong
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My apologies, libnss_dns.so is missing in this package. I'm currently doing another round of compilation, and hopefully i could test it tonight (Hong kong time)
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i will try install openoffice .i will use glibc2.3.2 in pdaxrom.i have updated glibc2.2.5 to glibc2.3.2.it is very cool
openoffice needs glibc>2.2.8.hehe
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Any chance you can put up an ipk or a tar.gz of glibc-2.3.2 ?
Chero
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the right is "布布" from hongkong
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My apologies, libnss_dns.so is missing in this package. I'm currently doing another round of compilation, and hopefully i could test it tonight (Hong kong time)
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I don't mind waiting,
Good luck,
Chero
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I don't mind waiting,
Good luck,
Chero
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so here it is, glibc 2.3.2.
[a href=\"http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
Mind you, it has not been test throughtly yet, however i have been running it for about an hour without any problems.
update (i) : i couldnt run firefox - segmentation fault
update (ii) : it seems the problem of running forefox does not related to the new glibc, since some others reports that they could run firefox fine after upgrading.
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I don't mind waiting,
Good luck,
Chero
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so here it is, glibc 2.3.2.
[a href=\"http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
Mind you, it has not been test throughtly yet, however i have been running it for about an hour without any problems.
update (i) :: i couldnt run firefox - segmentation fault
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If this works, does that mean OpenOffice will install on pdaXrom?
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I went here
http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/ (http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/)
For the arm port... but before I do anything, I notice the installer weighs in at 70mb. So, if OpenOffice is installable on the Z, how much hard disk space are we talking?
Also, if it is installable, anyone care to do a round-up of what's needed and how it's done?
Thanks
J
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I went here
http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/ (http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/)
For the arm port... but before I do anything, I notice the installer weighs in at 70mb. So, if OpenOffice is installable on the Z, how much hard disk space are we talking?
Also, if it is installable, anyone care to do a round-up of what's needed and how it's done?
Thanks
J
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I used that installer on debian. It's the same that's been used for "X/Qt - openoffice".
If I remember correctly, it used about 210Mb.
But,
The installer doesn't work for me.
First it said "no more space in /tmp". I moved /tmp to my card. Now it tries to show the "installing..." screen, then it segfaults.
Anyone more luck ?
Chero
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The installer doesn't work for me.
First it said "no more space in /tmp". I moved /tmp to my card. Now it tries to show the "installing..." screen, then it segfaults.
I'm no expert with linux, so this is just me thinking out loud.
Does it have to be installed?
Could not a working OpenOffice be copied to pdaXrom and run, the same way a working Office can be copied in windows. OK, when you run it it'll shout for missing DLL, but all you do is find them and one by one put them in the right place until it works. Would something similar not work with Linux?
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I went here
http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/ (http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/)
For the arm port... but before I do anything, I notice the installer weighs in at 70mb. So, if OpenOffice is installable on the Z, how much hard disk space are we talking?
Also, if it is installable, anyone care to do a round-up of what's needed and how it's done?
Thanks
J
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I used that installer on debian. It's the same that's been used for "X/Qt - openoffice".
If I remember correctly, it used about 210Mb.
But,
The installer doesn't work for me.
First it said "no more space in /tmp". I moved /tmp to my card. Now it tries to show the "installing..." screen, then it segfaults.
Anyone more luck ?
Chero
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Would you be able to write a "how to" to explain to others exactly how you got to that point, giving links and things to all the packages needed and explaining the steps you've taken so far? I'd really appreciate it, because I could attempt myself and also others could make a similar attempt, the easier it is for people to follow in the footsteps, the more likely it is that someone might work out the correct route to take.
Thanks!!
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I went here
http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/ (http://people.debian.org/~rene/openoffice.org/test/arm/)
For the arm port... but before I do anything, I notice the installer weighs in at 70mb. So, if OpenOffice is installable on the Z, how much hard disk space are we talking?
Also, if it is installable, anyone care to do a round-up of what's needed and how it's done?
Thanks
J
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I used that installer on debian. It's the same that's been used for "X/Qt - openoffice".
If I remember correctly, it used about 210Mb.
But,
The installer doesn't work for me.
First it said "no more space in /tmp". I moved /tmp to my card. Now it tries to show the "installing..." screen, then it segfaults.
Anyone more luck ?
Chero
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Would you be able to write a "how to" to explain to others exactly how you got to that point, giving links and things to all the packages needed and explaining the steps you've taken so far? I'd really appreciate it, because I could attempt myself and also others could make a similar attempt, the easier it is for people to follow in the footsteps, the more likely it is that someone might work out the correct route to take.
Thanks!!
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I'll try to :
Start [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9654&hl=debian%20on%20pdaxrom&st=30]here (goto post 41 and keep on reading)[/url]. That's how openoffice on Z started.
Now about running it natively on pdaxrom :
I tried to use the same installer. It needs glibc 2.3 (attached in this thread).
(BTW : to try yourself : download the installer, extract files from the tar.gz, in an aterm : go to where you extracted the files, cd to the dir with the files, run ./setup).
On pdaX I received the message : /tmp/... out of disk-space.
So I removed /tmp (symlink to /var/...), created a dir called tmp on my card, then created a new /tmp pointing to /mnt/card/tmp.
Then the installer can extract all the files, it starts the script, when it tries to show the options window, it segfaults. (it doesn't tell you, but ...)
To know what went wrong, I interupted the installer right after unpacking. I looked in /tmp, fount the installer files, moved them somewhere else, tried to run the setup in there -> segfault. (That's how I know)
The other way :
I downloaded the tar.gz created by Meanie. It is based on the same installer, but includes the installed files. I extracted the files, mounted the included cramfs, tried to run the setup in there (which is supposed to install some files in my home = "user installation"). It segfaults when it tries to show the same window.
Hope this helps you a bit,
Chero.
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hehe, I'll try and see if I can follow that when I get home and have some time. I'm thinking this may be a weekend thing, lol, when something a bit scary like that comes along my thoughts are:
Need peace, quiet, a cup of tea and my Z backed up! I'm thinking that if you're linux knowledge is higher than mine, I'm unlikely to succeed, but I'm gonna try.
If anyone else manages to get this going before the weekend, let me know!
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On pdaX I received the message : /tmp/... out of disk-space.
So I removed /tmp (symlink to /var/...), created a dir called tmp on my card, then created a new /tmp pointing to /mnt/card/tmp.
How did you do that please, step by step, am a bit new to this. lol
Do you know where openoffice tried to install to? This tmp or somewhere else on the system?
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On pdaX I received the message : /tmp/... out of disk-space.
So I removed /tmp (symlink to /var/...), created a dir called tmp on my card, then created a new /tmp pointing to /mnt/card/tmp.
How did you do that please, step by step, am a bit new to this. lol
Do you know where openoffice tried to install to? This tmp or somewhere else on the system?
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You've got the installer.tar.gz, right ?
Make sure you have the glibc pointed to in this thread (dated aug. 05 2005 !!!)
I also installed the glibc-local-... from the same site.
I have installed libart-..., pcre, perl and all python modules from the feed (don't know if they are needed, but just being complete about my setup)
I also have the attached file installed (tcsh)(a c-shell required for compiling the source, don't know if the installer uses it)
I did everything on my 1Gb SD :
# cd /mnt/card
# rm /tmp
# mkdir tmp
# ln -s /mnt/card/tmp /tmp
# mkdir OOinstall
# cd OOinstall
# tar -xzf /mnt/card/OOo..... (name of the installer.tar.gz)
# cd */*/*/normal
# mkdir /mnt/card/OOo
# ./install --prefix=/mnt/card/OOo --single
That's as fas as I got.
The installer now seems to run fine, but when I try to launch something, it doesn't work. I don't have a .openoffice in my /home/root. I guess we're still missing something, but what ?
the files are installed in /mnt/card/OOo/OpenOffice.org1.1.4/(program)
Anyone more luck ?
Chero.
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likewise, it got so far and then a dialog window pops up saying unrecoverable error
So near, but yet so far.
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tried again, using the interactive setting, but that gets as far as putting a tool bar onthe screen, but nothing more happened :-(
Am guessing there is something that's missing somewhere preventing this from running and probably preventing the actual programs from running.
If anyone has any ideas, would be great to know!
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Just thought...
Would pdaXrom log somewhere a detailed error message of the fatal error it gets when Open Office tries to start?
If so, does anyone know where this would be?
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/var/
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status update :
About glibc 2.3.2 :
Could it be that the included "libpthread" is not complete ? The size is quite a lot smaller than the one that comes with pdaX. All the other files seem to be around the same size.
About openoffice :
I think it hangs (crashes) due to an incomplete libpthread. I googled a bit and found out that "libsal" uses "libpthread". By checking it on the Z, I noticed what i've written above.
The good news :
I was already able to run the "user setup" (with nice screens, logo's, boxes to fill in my name, ...). This created the user-files in my /home/root
I had to add some xlibs, fonts, etc to do so.
I hope this means we're making progress.
(screenshot in xwd format attached - sorry battery out of juice)
Chero.
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Wow that's so encouraging :-)
Anyone know how to correct the problem with the 2.3.2 glibc?
Edit: Can't open that file, even changing the extension doesn't seem to work :-(
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I think you're right, there is something wrong with glibc 2.3.2. I think the best solution is to recompile oo using glibc 2.2.5, but it's of course not an easy task. I'm trying to compile it for hours and I've got a lot of problems (mainly, oo passes -nostdinc to gcc but it won't find any header file since they are in a dozen directory and only one is detected). I hope it can be solved without recompiling everything, but I seriously doubt you can.
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wouldn't it be easier to fix the 2.3.2 glibc?
I'm no expert on these things.
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The file in .jpg :
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@ sirob :
How was glibc 2.3.2 compiled ?
Crosscompiler or native ?
What options ?
Did you have to force anything ?
Chero.
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The file in .jpg :
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I never got that far, wow, if only....
Chero you're doing such a great job I'm so impressed!
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@ sirob :
How was glibc 2.3.2 compiled ?
Crosscompiler or native ?
What options ?
Did you have to force anything ?
Chero.
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this is a long story :/
I was using pdaxrom-builder with an old machine to compile, that poor box went totally dead after giving out the first version of 2.3.2 which lacks libnss_dns.so. So I migrated to a new machine, compiled the many versions of glibc 2.3.2 using different settings, but NONE of them goes well with firefox.. so I just put the libnss_dns.so from the later versions into the first package,and it work fines for me
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@ sirob :
How was glibc 2.3.2 compiled ?
Crosscompiler or native ?
What options ?
Did you have to force anything ?
Chero.
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this is a long story :/
I was using pdaxrom-builder with an old machine to compile, that poor box went totally dead after giving out the first version of 2.3.2 which lacks libnss_dns.so. So I migrated to a new machine, compiled the many versions of glibc 2.3.2 using different settings, but NONE of them goes well with firefox.. so I just put the libnss_dns.so from the later versions into the first package,and it work fines for me
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How about the "libpthread" from the later versions ? Any of them about the size of the original one ?
Chero.
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@ sirob :
How was glibc 2.3.2 compiled ?
Crosscompiler or native ?
What options ?
Did you have to force anything ?
Chero.
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this is a long story :/
I was using pdaxrom-builder with an old machine to compile, that poor box went totally dead after giving out the first version of 2.3.2 which lacks libnss_dns.so. So I migrated to a new machine, compiled the many versions of glibc 2.3.2 using different settings, but NONE of them goes well with firefox.. so I just put the libnss_dns.so from the later versions into the first package,and it work fines for me
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How about the "libpthread" from the later versions ? Any of them about the size of the original one ?
Chero.
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what is the size of libpthread? sorry i dont have Z on my hand right now
(edit: the size of the libpthread in the later versions is about 89kb)
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@ sirob :
How was glibc 2.3.2 compiled ?
Crosscompiler or native ?
What options ?
Did you have to force anything ?
Chero.
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this is a long story :/
I was using pdaxrom-builder with an old machine to compile, that poor box went totally dead after giving out the first version of 2.3.2 which lacks libnss_dns.so. So I migrated to a new machine, compiled the many versions of glibc 2.3.2 using different settings, but NONE of them goes well with firefox.. so I just put the libnss_dns.so from the later versions into the first package,and it work fines for me
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How about the "libpthread" from the later versions ? Any of them about the size of the original one ?
Chero.
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what is the size of libpthread? sorry i dont have Z on my hand right now
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The original one : 82620
Yours : 58360
Could you post just libpthread from the latter versions ? I 'd like to give it a go.
Chero
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The original one : 82620
Yours : 58360
Chero
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Wait, I have got a libpthread.so in the build directory which is about 89kb, however the libpthread-0.10.so became 58kb in the package..
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The original one : 82620
Yours : 58360
Chero
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Wait, I have got a libpthread.so in the build directory which is about 89kb, however the libpthread-0.10.so became 58kb in the package..
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I believe it gets stripped when using mk-ipkg. So, if that's what we're dealing with here, I won't be able to use it. Just to be sure, could you post it over here or PM me ?
Thanks
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The original one : 82620
Yours : 58360
Chero
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Wait, I have got a libpthread.so in the build directory which is about 89kb, however the libpthread-0.10.so became 58kb in the package..
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I believe it gets stripped when using mk-ipkg. So, if that's what we're dealing with here, I won't be able to use it. Just to be sure, could you post it over here or PM me ?
Thanks
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I have just done a distclean and compile from scarch (again!), give me 15 min.
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So I'm guessing that if this libpthread-0.10.so is recompiled, the glibc ipk rebuilt and reinstalled, this might work?
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@ sirob :
It was worth a try, but stripped it's about the same size (59K), so I guess some things are still missing.
So I'm guessing that if this libpthread-0.10.so is recompiled, the glibc ipk rebuilt and reinstalled, this might work?
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libpthread is part of the glibc-package. If we get it all right, OOo might work, then again, it might not (yet). But some day it will.
Chero.
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I'll take a might work anyday. :-)
Good luck!!
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Chero:
Actually is there any special compile procedures/flags/options/.. that you aware of concerning libpthread?
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on the other hand, ill try installing openoffice to zaurus tomorow
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Good luck :-)
I had to take pdaXrom off my Z for the working week, will head back to it and try again at the weekend.
I'm looking forward to ditching the sharp rom infavour of pdaXrom.
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Chero:
Actually is there any special compile procedures/flags/options/.. that you aware of concerning libpthread?
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Not that i'm aware of, but :
It seems that you can't upgrade glibc in big steps (I read about this while googling).
If you can still find the time, maybe try upgrading to 2.3 first, then change the includes in the cross-compiler, then try compiling 2.3.2. By the way, I think 2.3 is enough for the OO-installer.
on the other hand, ill try installing openoffice to zaurus tomorow
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Good luck,
I had to add some xlibs before I could run the user setup. I'll try to package them this evening.
If we don't give up, we can make this work !!
Chero.
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Am I right in guessing that if this works and Open Office installs, other newer apps will work too on pdaXrom and your efforts will help others add even more apps to the platform?
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Damn, i messed up my window manager !!!
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So now i'm sure,
We need a fully working glibc 2.3.x
Chero
ps : don't try this at home.
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Damn, i messed up my window manager !!!
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So now i'm sure,
We need a fully working glibc 2.3.x
Chero
ps : don't try this at home.
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Holy heck! How did you do that?!
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Holy heck! How did you do that?!
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First I needed to change /temp (see earlier in this thread)
Then I had to add some xlibs (can't upload here - the file is 6Mb)
I installed glibc-2.3.2 (look in this thread). But this seemed not to be complete (look in this thread).
I downloaded the libc6 deb package for arm. I tried only to replace my libpthread-10.so, but that didn't work. I created an ipk from the complete deb-package and installed it.
This totally messed up the system (look at the screenshots : no window-titles ; I can't set time and date - can't enter anything in the boxes - can't read OK or cancel buttons - ...)
But, aterm seemed to work fine, so I gave it a shot.
I could run ./setup from the installed version (look earlier in this thread). With all the windows, boxes, logo's, ... .
Then I could run ./soffice from the installed files in my /home/root/OpenOffice1.1.4
- a .doc opens the writer
- a .xls opens the spreadsheet
Haven't tried anything else yet.
We now know it works, but we desperately need a fully working glibc-2.3.x to get any further. My Z now runs OOo, but is quite unusable due to the installation of the debian libc6.
So, everybody with a crosscompiler (or native) : please try to get glibc-2.3.2 fully working.
Chero.
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I'm so impressed, baby steps and all that, you've made such progress!! :-)
I guess it's too early to tell how fast it seems to work?
I wonder if the updated glibc could be included in the next rc? There is some real progress being made here :-)
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I'm so impressed, baby steps and all that, you've made such progress!! :-)
I guess it's too early to tell how fast it seems to work?
I wonder if the updated glibc could be included in the next rc? There is some real progress being made here :-)
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Yes, it is too early to tell. My Z doesn't behave quite normal right now.
About the topic title : (edit)deleted
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hack.. still no success :/
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hack.. still no success :/
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I thought that what is shown in post 52 is already a big succes !
It IS running on pdaX.
Chero
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hack.. still no success :/
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I thought that what is shown in post 52 is already a big succes !
It IS running on pdaX.
Chero
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well, i mean i still have successed in compiling a good working libpthread.so :/
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hack.. still no success :/
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I thought that what is shown in post 52 is already a big succes !
It IS running on pdaX.
Chero
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well, i mean i still have successed in compiling a good working libpthread.so :/
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I've been trying to compile glibc myself (without success, but I didn't have the configure options I PM'ed you. I've tried 2.3 - 2.3.1 - 2.3.2 - 2.3.3
I got almost no errors on 2.3.3 (all the others gave me loads of errors, but I didn't succeed in making a working version) - maybe that's the one we should focus on ?
Chero
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I've been trying to compile glibc myself (without success, but I didn't have the configure options I PM'ed you. I've tried 2.3 - 2.3.1 - 2.3.2 - 2.3.3
I got almost no errors on 2.3.3 (all the others gave me loads of errors, but I didn't succeed in making a working version) - maybe that's the one we should focus on ?
Chero
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Is compiling this pdaXrom specific or the C series ARM specific?
If it's not pdaXrom specific, I'm just curious if posting a topic on one of the more general forums might encounter someone who's compiled this for this architecture?
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Is compiling this pdaXrom specific or the C series ARM specific?
If it's not pdaXrom specific, I'm just curious if posting a topic on one of the more general forums might encounter someone who's compiled this for this architecture?
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It's pdaXrom specific.
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I've been trying to compile glibc myself (without success, but I didn't have the configure options I PM'ed you. I've tried 2.3 - 2.3.1 - 2.3.2 - 2.3.3
I got almost no errors on 2.3.3 (all the others gave me loads of errors, but I didn't succeed in making a working version) - maybe that's the one we should focus on ?
Chero
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strangely, 2.3.3 onwards gives me hell lot of errors that's why i was battling with 2.3.2
somehow i feel may it be the problem of cross compiling tools? you know, cross compiling is always troublesome and picky.
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It's been suggested in another post that it might be more sensible to recompile OpenOffice for glibc 2.2.x rather than trying to add glibc 2.3.x to pdaXrom.
Would that make sense?
Is that doable?
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Hi everyone, just trying to keep this thread alive...
It seems like some progress is being made. I was wondering if anyone else was having any luck?
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Hi,
I need some help on a few things :
I've reached a point where most things on my Z work, in combination with OOo.
But,
I have to set a new font for my X-system (the title-bars are so small you can't read them or you cant see-click the icons in it). How can I do this ?
The settings apps are using another font I guess. This is gone too, where can I set this one ?
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Almost to a point where it can be packaged ...
Chero.
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Wow, getting close now it seems!
Is anyone able to help?
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I'm curious about something, perhaps someone can let me know if this is possible.
the X/QT + debian pocket workstation allows OpenOffice to work.
pdaXrom and debian can't be that dis-similar (probably am wrong about that! lol)
Is it not possible to graft the parts from debian into pdaXrom, i.e. copy the files, libraries and dependencies needed, re-link them and thus get OpenOffice to work natively in pdaXrom?
Sounds really complicated even to me, lol, but I know there are a lot of very clever people out there.
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Hiya, I've been away for ages and haven't even touched my Z in a month, am having Z withdrawal. LOL
Was wondering if any progress had been made towards getting OpenOffice to run on pdaXrom. I'm itching to ditch my Sharp ROM for pdaXrom permanently :-)
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Almost to a point where it can be packaged ...
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Hi Chero
any progress on this? I see that on your homepage you don't even mention OOo. Have you given up?
BTW thanks for your XFCE stuff
-- cheers
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Almost to a point where it can be packaged ...
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Hi Chero
any progress on this? I see that on your homepage you don't even mention OOo. Have you given up?
BTW thanks for your XFCE stuff
-- cheers
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No progress yet, I was running out of time.
Winter is starting over here, so now we'll have looooong winter-evenings and a lot of time to play with my new toy.
I even think there will be more interest in this now, I've seen some new guys in the pdaX-forum that seem to be real zaurus-guru's.
Chero.
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Awesome, what's brought about the renewed (or perhaps just new) interest from these people?
I even think there will be more interest in this now, I've seen some new guys in the pdaX-forum that seem to be real zaurus-guru's.
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Awesome, what's brought about the renewed (or perhaps just new) interest from these people?
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They didn't tell me why they are interested in pdaXrom (I didn't ask). But I guess the answer will be obvious : pdaXrom is amazing !!
Chero.
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They didn't tell me why they are interested in pdaXrom (I didn't ask). But I guess the answer will be obvious : pdaXrom is amazing !!
Chero.
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Awesome, so is the glibc still the only thing preventing open office running on pdaXrom?
Or is someone looking at recompiling open office for pdaXrom?
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glibc 2.3.5 compiles (with some patching, that is, and there are some configure errors as well ; it takes half a day for a native build supported by a distcc PC) but many apps get broken and X seems to have bugs. The only way to update to 2.3 is to have sashz port and build the feed using it.
Openoffice just doesn't compile, you may try but you will get too many errors to have the slightest hope to make a full working build.
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glibc 2.3.5 compiles (with some patching, that is, and there are some configure errors as well ; it takes half a day for a native build supported by a distcc PC) but many apps get broken and X seems to have bugs. The only way to update to 2.3 is to have sashz port and build the feed using it.
Openoffice just doesn't compile, you may try but you will get too many errors to have the slightest hope to make a full working build.
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Is there a plan to update pdaXrom in the future to use a higher version of glibc?
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AFAIK, stable version of glibc is nowadays 2.3.6, so it would be better to compile it than 2.3.5, IMHO - we should have less errors when compiling OO. But it's huge (18 megs in a source tarball) and surely will take a hell lot of time to compile:
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.3.6.tar.gz (http://ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.3.6.tar.gz)
So... please go ahead and give it a try.
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Thanks to all for your hard efforts. Compiling these stuff (OOo, glibc) is totallly beyond my knowledge and it's a great pity that I can only watch and wait. Yet I'll be very happy to test the results.
BTW, can someone upload the newly compiled glibc 2.3.2 here (not the older on that is reported to be incomplete)? The posted link http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk (http://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk) is no longer accessible. Seems the site has been down for a long while. Many thanks!
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Well, I managed to cram OpenOffice onto a 100MB cramfs image and it works on pdaXrom as well as X/Qt on Sharp/Cacko.
I tested this on a C3000 running pdaXrom and a C3100 running X/Qt. Obviously, if you extract the image to your internal microdrive, it will run faster but takes up almost 256MB of space.
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Well, I managed to cram OpenOffice onto a 100MB cramfs image and it works on pdaXrom as well as X/Qt on Sharp/Cacko.
I tested this on a C3000 running pdaXrom and a C3100 running X/Qt. Obviously, if you extract the image to your internal microdrive, it will run faster but takes up almost 256MB of space.
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Really? I thought the reason OOo failed on pdaXrom was the glibc thingumy.
I'm assuming it would be possible to extract this to an SD card and run it from there, but I unfortunately haven't the fainted idea how to do this or how to link it into pdaXrom so that there are icons and so on.
Incredible news though!
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Well, I managed to cram OpenOffice onto a 100MB cramfs image and it works on pdaXrom as well as X/Qt on Sharp/Cacko.
Excellent! Is this image same as the one for the stock rom as detailed on your customise page (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom.html)? If not, and it is a new image where can we download it? Thanks.
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Well, I managed to cram OpenOffice onto a 100MB cramfs image and it works on pdaXrom as well as X/Qt on Sharp/Cacko.
Excellent! Is this image same as the one for the stock rom as detailed on your customise page (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom.html)? If not, and it is a new image where can we download it? Thanks.
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This is an updated one. The previous one only worked on X/Qt. You can find it here: [a href=\"http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/]http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/[/url]
All you need to do is update /usr/X11R6/bin/startx and remove "-nolisten tcp" from the defaultserverargs, and then mount the cramfs image as a loop device and run zopenoffice-setup from the mounted image. You should see an OpenOffice icon in the menu after you restart X.
otherwise, you can start OpenOffice from a terminal by issuing runoo
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All you need to do is update /usr/X11R6/bin/startx and remove "-nolisten tcp" from the defaultserverargs, and then mount the cramfs image as a loop device and run zopenoffice-install from the mounted image.
OK, I grabbed this file:
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/openoffice.cramfs (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/openoffice.cramfs)
After mounting it I see that it has zopenoffice-setup as opposed to zopenoffice-install that you mention above. Looking through zopenoffice-setup I find references to minideb, /hdd2, qcop and other things which are not relevant for pdaXrom. Do I have the right image?
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All you need to do is update /usr/X11R6/bin/startx and remove "-nolisten tcp" from the defaultserverargs, and then mount the cramfs image as a loop device and run zopenoffice-install from the mounted image.
OK, I grabbed this file:
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/openoffice.cramfs (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/pdaxrom/openoffice.cramfs)
After mounting it I see that it has zopenoffice-setup as opposed to zopenoffice-install that you mention above. Looking through zopenoffice-setup I find references to minideb, /hdd2, qcop and other things which are not relevant for pdaXrom. Do I have the right image?
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That's the right one. I always get setup and install confused. Sorry. This file works for both pdaXrom and X/Qt so the references you see are for supporting both distros. You can run pkginfo or version in the same directory to check.
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That's the right one. I always get setup and install confused. Sorry. This file works for both pdaXrom and X/Qt so the references you see are for supporting both distros.
OK, got it working - takes about 3 minutes to start up (under KDE) - but it's good to be able to use OOo again after ditching the Sharp rom. Thanks Meanie
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Would it run faster from an extracted cramfs?
If so how does one go about setting this up?
I'm gonna see if I can muddle through this myself, but any assistance is gratefully received.
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Well....
I thought I'd done ok. I'm using the beta2 for 1.1.0. I'd edited the startx file and removed the -nolisten tcp part. I put the cramfs file onto my SD and mounted it and could see it's contents. I ran the zopenoffice-setup file and a nice openoffice x/qt icon appeared in the office section. I pressed that and.... nothing.
I'm guessing, as per usual, I've missed a step, which is common with me as I'm always fumbling along blind unless I've explicit instructions *sigh*. I've no instinctive feel for linux commands and how things are done.
Anyway. Any suggestions as to where I went wrong....
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hmmm. on beta 1 ( I don't feel like flashing just yet) I put the cramfs on the sd (fat 16 formatted, I think)
Mounted it "mount -o loop /mnt/card/what-ever-the-image-is-called.cramfs /mnt/ide/oo" My hd is mounted at mnt/ide and formatted ext3, and I had made a directory called /mnt/ide/oo for this purpose.
ran the setup program and restarted icewm.
Got a menu item and all worked as expected.
It sounds like you are ding the same thing, or pretty close logically.
Try from a cf? maybe the new sd drivers are a problem in some obscure and incomprehensible way?
maybe remove the mount point, reboot and do it over?
maybe you are having problems with free ram..and it is working, but taking forever to load fully?
stabbing in the dark, but I know it can be done.
Kind of ironic that you are the one with a glitch on this, isn't it?
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Kind of ironic that you are the one with a glitch on this, isn't it?
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Not ironic, bloody typical, lol, it's cause I'm just fumbling around. Mac people should never use real computers, they get confused when you have to do things :-P
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Ah ha
Well.... I tried to be sneaky and maybe speed it up a little. I mounted the cramfs, created another directory on the sd card, copied the contents of teh cramfs into that directory, which I thought would be a way to extract it and then ran the zopenoffice-setup from within the new directory and hence it failed.
From the cramfs it opens on my SD in just under a minute, it doesn't open a document though. Just to a grey screen. I'm using a non modded beta2.
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proof I got it going!
Thanks Meanie for the package and getting it working!
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It run very well on my Z.Thnak you for the great work.
How can I setup it to show Chinese font in OO?
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Would be interesting to know how to add other fonts like Times New, Arial, Trebuchet, the main MS fonts basically so that I can use the same documents on my pc and mac and z.
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It run very well on my Z.Thnak you for the great work.
How can I setup it to show Chinese font in OO?
Interesting problem. Here's what I tried:
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The stuff here is obsolete, I have updated it and moved it to a new post.
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How do you extract the cramfs image? I tried just copying everything out of it, but that didn't work.
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How do you extract the cramfs image? I tried just copying everything out of it,
When I was using OOo under the Sharp rom, I did just that - copied all files from the cramfs image and it worked fine. Was able to install fonts etc.
but that didn't work.
Any error messages?
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Any error messages?
-- cheers
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None, but after copying everything, I ran the zopenoffice-setup script, the icon appeared, but when I tried to run it, nothing happened. So I went back to the cramfs and ran the setup script from there and from the icon it ran perfectly.
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Maybe...
mount image,run zopenoffice-setup
cp * from image to /mnt/tempXX
umount image
cp /mnt/tempXX/* to the dir that the OO image was mounted (ex. /opt/ooo )
rm -fr /mnt/tempXX
...
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Thx works, for me too!
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Sounds a bit complicated, I'll certainly give it a go, hopefully I won't muck it up, like I often do!
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after the OO extrat to my SD card,it can work.I link -s all my fonts to the lost+found or other folder i locate with fonts.I still cannt read chinese in this powerful tool.
Is there any other configuration need to be done?
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Sounds a bit complicated, I'll certainly give it a go, hopefully I won't muck it up, like I often do!
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Compicated????? Ive never used it with OO but its the best "mambo jambo" you can do with mount points and isofs
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: P It is Ok now.ecxel,ppt format render perfectly.
But an other problem incur.
Only word file render into blank page and I cannt see any words on the page.What happen?
Is there somewhere I go wrong?
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Could it be that the font(s) used in the Word file are not available on the Z, and it's not defaulting to something that is?
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If that's the case, would adding the truetype fonts that are in the word document help? if so, how do you add truetype fonts to pdaXrom/OpenOffice?
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If that's the case, would adding the truetype fonts that are in the word document help? if so, how do you add truetype fonts to pdaXrom/OpenOffice?
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Need put TTF on pdaXrom or in miniDebian on OOo cramfs file?
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Maybe...
mount image,run zopenoffice-setup
cp * from image to /mnt/tempXX
umount image
cp /mnt/tempXX/* to the dir that the OO image was mounted (ex. /opt/ooo )
rm -fr /mnt/tempXX
...
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Am I right in thinking it should be...
cp -r /mnt/card/image/* /mnt/card/temp
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I figured out a way to add fonts to OOo relatively painlessly. There's a "hard" way and a potentially easy way. I'll outline the hard way first:
NB my OOo image is mounted at /opt/ooo
First copy the original OOo fonts directory to somewhere in your filesystem:
mkdir /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts
cp -a /opt/ooo/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/* /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts/
Map the new fonts directory over the original OOo one (so effectively that directory is now writeable under minideb/OOo):
mount --bind /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts/ /opt/ooo/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts
Because minideb/OOo is not able to see your entire filesystem you need to map the pdaXrom fonts directory onto somewhere within the minideb filesystem. Something like this would do:
mount --bind /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF /opt/ooo/lost+found/
(NB I chose /opt/ooo/lost+found because under minideb/OOo that is empty and unused)
Next you need to run the spadmin program, to do this what I did was make a copy of /usr/bin/runoo calling it /usr/bin/runspadmin, then edit it to change soffice to spadmin.
In spadmin choose [Fonts...] > [Add...], for "Source directory" navigate to "/lost+found", select your fonts, make sure "Create soft links only" is checked, then click [OK]. Once it's done, close spadmin, startup OOo and enjoy your new fonts.
Now for the potentially easy way, it seems that OOo's truetype font directory, ie /opt/ooo/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/truetype/ is just a "standard" fonts directory with a bunch of ttf fonts and a fonts.dir file. If so, you can just create and populate an arbitary fonts directory then mount --bind it over the original OOo font directory. This way you do not need to run spadmin.
-- cheers
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Am guessing that if you can actually copy out the files correctly, which I can't seem to yet, you could just copy fonts into that directory?
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Maybe...
mount image,run zopenoffice-setup
cp * from image to /mnt/tempXX
umount image
cp /mnt/tempXX/* to the dir that the OO image was mounted (ex. /opt/ooo )
rm -fr /mnt/tempXX
...
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Am I right in thinking it should be...
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Paths and dirs are f00bared! If the reader can get the idea I think its OK
In plain english you have to make the system beliave that the same dir comtains the files from the image that you made the links by running the script
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now you've foxed me.... how?
Maybe...
mount image,run zopenoffice-setup
cp * from image to /mnt/tempXX
umount image
cp /mnt/tempXX/* to the dir that the OO image was mounted (ex. /opt/ooo )
rm -fr /mnt/tempXX
...
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Am I right in thinking it should be...
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Paths and dirs are f00bared! If the reader can get the idea I think its OK
In plain english you have to make the system beliave that the same dir comtains the files from the image that you made the links by running the script
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now you've foxed me.... how?
OK say your OOo image was mounted at /opt/ooo, now create a temp directory, say /mnt/hd/ooo on a partition with plenty of space.
Then
cp -a /opt/ooo/* /mnt/hd/ooo/
Now unmount your OOo image
umount /opt/ooo
Now move your (effectively extracted) files back into the place where your OOo was originally mounted
mv /mnt/hd/ooo/* /opt/ooo/
And remove your temp directory
rm -rf /mnt/hd/ooo
Now your OOo should function just like before but it is now running from the regular filesystem. Once you have ascertained things are working properly you can delete your openoffice.cramfs file.
Just to be clear: these instructions are extracting the entire OOo image onto the regular filesystem.
If you only need to add fonts to OOo then you could consider following my earlier post in this thread on that subject.
-- cheers
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cp -a /opt/ooo/* /mnt/hd/ooo/
Thanks so much, I had assumed it was -r for recursive copy. In no logical part of my brain had the -a option seemed correct as an option. Just never occurred when reading the man page.
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And the fonts works too
My openoffice was copied out of the cramfs to /mnt/card/openoffice
the location of my fonts directory seems to be:
/mnt/card/openoffice/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/truetype
I was able to successfully copy all the fonts I need and they work, it's great! :-)
Thanks to everyone who's made this possible. This is the best moment with my Z I've had in ages, copying all my documents to it and opening them! And it's not really that slow, no worse than word used to be on my 486 in the mid 90s.
Now all I've got to do is work out how to get the default templates to open the way I want them, something I've never quite worked out with open office and I'll be set!
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Ok.... found an error.
I've opened a test file on my xp computer, where the file is correct. It's a simple three column tally of expenses showing deductions in one column, the total amount spent in the second column and the remainder in the third column.
See below for attached image.
I opened the same file in OpenOffice in pdaXrom.
Note:
- the unexplained minus signs, but the maths isn't wrong.
- the odd cell A166
- the bizarre contents of A179, even though it still displays the correct (albeit with a minus sign) number.
See below for attached image.
The font used is Arial, and I copied Arial from the XP machine to my Z successfully. I've tried changing the fonts in the original file to one of the fonts which came with OpenOffice on the Z and re-opening the new file, but still the same results, so I don't think it's the font.
Any ideas anyone?
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Alas another error discovered.
I can open other openoffice word documents, which is cool, because I mainly use openoffice word. But ms word documents do not open to anything more than gibberish.
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cp chinesefont /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts/
cp -a /opt/ooo/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/* /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts/
mount --bind /mnt/hd/store/ooo-fonts/ /opt/ooo/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts
runoo
it works!!!
Thank you,desertrat!You are a god!
Another question.
Can we use SCIM in OOo?
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Some more bugs I'm afraid
First is that the CF card is often listed as unmounted after a suspend, even though the rest of pdaXrom can see the CF card.
Second while OpenOffice is running off the SD card, which is ext2 formatted, it can save files to the SD card, but it can't open them, it causes a fatal error and OpenOffice falls over.
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Some more bugs I'm afraid
Sorry to hear you're having so many problems
I've opened a test file on my xp computer, where the file is correct. It's a simple three column tally of expenses showing deductions in one column, the total amount spent in the second column and the remainder in the third column.
Perhaps you could attach this test file for others to try?
I can open other openoffice word documents, which is cool, because I mainly use openoffice word. But ms word documents do not open to anything more than gibberish.
I've been opening Abiword saved .doc, and Gnumeric saved .xls documents using OOo without any problems (yet ). For fun I also opened a 124 page, 1.2MB MS Word produced doc and had no problems (apart from taking more than a few minutes to load).
First is that the CF card is often listed as unmounted after a suspend, even though the rest of pdaXrom can see the CF card.
and
Second while OpenOffice is running off the SD card, which is ext2 formatted, it can save files to the SD card, but it can't open them, it causes a fatal error and OpenOffice falls over.
I wouldn't
1) store OOo on CF/SD
2) open/edit files on CF/SD
and expect it to survive between suspends. During suspend/resume, pdaXrom does umount and mount of CF/SD. I'm not sure minideb likes having the CF/SD being pulled out from underneath it while it (minideb/OOo) is running.
My setup is that I have a FAT partition on the HDD which I use to store my docs and stuff. This is "mount --bind" onto minideb's "/mnt/hdd3" directory at boot, thus OOo can access "all" my docs.
-- cheers
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I'm using a C1000, I've no where else to put anything
Are you using the cramfs version or the copied out from the cramfs version, which is what I'm using.
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Ok, here's the test.xls file if anyone else wants to have a play.
It's an expenses file, I've taken out the vital info, so you can't laugh at what I spend my money on.
It was created on my Mac PowerBook using OpenOffice 1.1.4
It opens on my XP PC desktop in OpenOffice 1.1.4 fine.
On the Zaurus you get the errors I showed off in previous posts.
On a side note, I'm curious if Meanie has noticed these problems too? When I had his OOo running in X/QT on the old sharp ROM - I don't remember any probs with it.
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what input method for openoffice?
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what input method for openoffice?
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Can you be a little more specific?
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IM in CJK for openoffice
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IM in CJK for openoffice
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I'm sorry, I might just be being dense. I still don't quite know what you mean. Give an example of what you except as an input method, so my brain can catch up. Or please elaborate on your question more fully.
Do you mean how did I input the information into the spreadsheet which now displays errors?
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IM in CJK for openoffice
I don't think the mini debian that the OOo image is based on has any IMs at all.
I'm sorry, I might just be being dense. I still don't quite know what you mean. Give an example of what you except as an input method, so my brain can catch up. Or please elaborate on your question more fully.
For entering characters not based on the latin alphabet an IM (input method) is usually needed. And CJK is short for Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
Do you mean how did I input the information into the spreadsheet which now displays errors?
So no, badog was not referring to your spreadsheet errors problem
I have looked at your spreadsheet and yes they're totally out of whack. Also I have recently opened one of my own gnumeric produced XLS sheet in OOo and saw a similar problem. So I guess you can't trust OOo calc for production work
-- cheers
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Mr. desertrat:
is there not any base of IM in mini debian?what is need to install?
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Hi All
Just wondering if anyone had come up with any thoughts as to why there were errors with this?
Also wondering if anyone had worked out a way to compile OOo 2.02 for the Z. This loads much faster on my old PC than 1.1.4 did, maybe it'll be quicker on the Z too. Just a thought.
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is there not any base of IM in mini debian?what is need to install?
I don't think so. But for the definitive answer you would have to ask Meanie who put together the OOo package. Or you could look through the mounted OOo filesystem to see whether any IM is included.
-- cheers
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I'm just curious how this all works...
To compile OOo for the Z would this be done on the Z from the source code? I'm assuming that would take a long time and not necessarily succeed, even if someone had the skill I lack.
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Fortunately not, because there is a "cross compiler" available, which is able to compile for one platform (ARM) on another (x86). That's the theory anyway!
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To compile OOo for the Z would this be done on the Z from the source code? I'm assuming that would take a long time and not necessarily succeed, even if someone had the skill I lack.
On my 2GHz, 512MB desktop machine it takes nearly 2 days to compile OOo. On the Z because of its limited memory it will be using swap like mad and probably take a month or 3 to compile. And you need about 2 or 3GB of free disk space.
Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture. But some time ago Debian has dropped offical support for ARM, so the chances of OOo 2 for ARM are pretty slim -- unless Meanie performs another miracle
-- cheers
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Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture.
Showing my ignorance again, do we really need the Debian support for the ARM architecture?
Surely if apps like AbiWord, etc can be compiled to work on the ARM as well as a x86, it's just the case of someone with a powerful computer going through the same process with OpenOffice?
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To compile OOo for the Z would this be done on the Z from the source code? I'm assuming that would take a long time and not necessarily succeed, even if someone had the skill I lack.
On my 2GHz, 512MB desktop machine it takes nearly 2 days to compile OOo. On the Z because of its limited memory it will be using swap like mad and probably take a month or 3 to compile. And you need about 2 or 3GB of free disk space.
Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture. But some time ago Debian has dropped offical support for ARM, so the chances of OOo 2 for ARM are pretty slim -- unless Meanie performs another miracle
-- cheers
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Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture.
Showing my ignorance again, do we really need the Debian support for the ARM architecture?
Surely if apps like AbiWord, etc can be compiled to work on the ARM as well as a x86, it's just the case of someone with a powerful computer going through the same process with OpenOffice?
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I think we need a ARM cluster to compile Ooo 2 and other thinks like blackdown-1.4 ....
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To compile OOo for the Z would this be done on the Z from the source code? I'm assuming that would take a long time and not necessarily succeed, even if someone had the skill I lack.
On my 2GHz, 512MB desktop machine it takes nearly 2 days to compile OOo. On the Z because of its limited memory it will be using swap like mad and probably take a month or 3 to compile. And you need about 2 or 3GB of free disk space.
Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture. But some time ago Debian has dropped offical support for ARM, so the chances of OOo 2 for ARM are pretty slim -- unless Meanie performs another miracle
-- cheers
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Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture.
Showing my ignorance again, do we really need the Debian support for the ARM architecture?
Surely if apps like AbiWord, etc can be compiled to work on the ARM as well as a x86, it's just the case of someone with a powerful computer going through the same process with OpenOffice?
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I think we need a ARM cluster to compile Ooo 2 and other thinks like blackdown-1.4 ....
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What about crosscompiler? or some kind of emulation? surely this can be done some other way....
If not--maybe someone can whip up a clustering module and we can all put our zs online for a few days and do it distributed...?
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To compile OOo for the Z would this be done on the Z from the source code? I'm assuming that would take a long time and not necessarily succeed, even if someone had the skill I lack.
On my 2GHz, 512MB desktop machine it takes nearly 2 days to compile OOo. On the Z because of its limited memory it will be using swap like mad and probably take a month or 3 to compile. And you need about 2 or 3GB of free disk space.
Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture. But some time ago Debian has dropped offical support for ARM, so the chances of OOo 2 for ARM are pretty slim -- unless Meanie performs another miracle
-- cheers
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Also the OOo that we have now is the result of Debian's support for the ARM architecture.
Showing my ignorance again, do we really need the Debian support for the ARM architecture?
Surely if apps like AbiWord, etc can be compiled to work on the ARM as well as a x86, it's just the case of someone with a powerful computer going through the same process with OpenOffice?
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I think we need a ARM cluster to compile Ooo 2 and other thinks like blackdown-1.4 ....
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What about crosscompiler? or some kind of emulation? surely this can be done some other way....
If not--maybe someone can whip up a clustering module and we can all put our zs online for a few days and do it distributed...?
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We need a native compile because this uses java compiler (javac) all time to build OOo libs and binaries.
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hmmm.
I have 2 Z's. A currently unconfigured 6000 and my 3100.
Maybe we could figure out how to setup the 6000, use nfs or smaba for swap and just let 'er rip for a week or two? I realize this would give pxa255 rather than 270 as the base architecture, but that would allow support for more devices, too. And this way i could whip up a gig plus swapfile for it (over 100mbit ethernet) or i could attach a usb drive and make a gig plus swpfile there (I have a 49 gig usb drive- fat format- that i could make the file on ) the speeds would be about the same, though, wouldn't they?
I suppose i could set an odd port for ssh and let someone with more expertise get on the Z, if necessary.
what re the problems here? do we have to be using a 2.6 rom? How can we do that on the 6k?
On my 3100 i have a nice pdaXrom beta3 setup. I fear the beta 4s still
I'd like to compile something that will run on kernel 2.4 and 2.6 and on 255 and 270 chips.
ideas?
edit:
on reading last post, I can give it a few gigs of swap, if necessary, and mount a share of hundreds of gigs-- or use networked swap and attach the usb drive (make a 10 gig ext3 partition on it) and connect that as well--etc..
edit: edit:
what about doing a chroot to the usb drive, or the network? would that be better? what is the most efficient way to access the available space? (all connections being via usb/ usb ethernet)
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Hi there...
You did a very good job, and I would to try it...
Can somebody upload glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk, cause hxxp://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk is not working?
Tnx...
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Hi there...
You did a very good job, and I would to try it...
Can somebody upload glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk, cause hxxp://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk is not working?
Tnx...
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Get it here!
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Hi there...
You did a very good job, and I would to try it...
Can somebody upload glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk, cause hxxp://zaurus.earpassion.net/glibc_2.3.2_armv5tel.ipk is not working?
Tnx...
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Get it here!
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Tnx m8 for your fast responce...
The problem is that when I run ./setup the terminal window freeze after a while and when I run ./soffice I get a window that shuts down after 1 min. If I logoff Xfce4 session, then I cannot load Xfce4 and Ihave to flash again my Z. I am running on a Z3200 beta3, Xfce 4.2.2 and rox filer. Why is this?
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this an article about the original porting of open office to the arm processor
http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/peter_naulls.html (http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/peter_naulls.html)
it said it took 3 days on a 600 mhz arm board to compile it.