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Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 01, 2005, 12:25:14 pm
I have installed the OZ 3.5.3 and opie on my SL-5500 in the internal memory, i download zImage-collie-32-32-20050407102515.bin and opie-image-collie-20050407173817.rootfs.jffs2 .

OZ and Opie are beautiful, i'm happy but the problems are:

1- In this installation i don't have browser web like Opera and movie-audio player like xine or media player, i have try to install it bye the packages Manger trougth internet connection of my PC Slackware. But on the internal storage i have 168Kb free. How can do ?

2- I have see this page http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/root-on-sd/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/root-on-sd/) but i have some question, my SD are Kingston 1Gb, i think that create an image by 300Mb for OZ and OPIE, how can do it? on my image i copy the file that are running now on my zurus and after i download the package that i need?i want Opie full with all package, there is an image that i can download and copy file in my image?

THANKS

Bye
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on September 01, 2005, 01:08:47 pm
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1- In this installation i don't have browser web like Opera and movie-audio player like xine or media player, i have try to install it bye the packages Manger trougth internet connection of my PC Slackware. But on the internal storage i have 168Kb free. How can do ?

Rather than moving root to the SD card (which yo ucan do if you want), try installing stuff to the SD card, e.g.:

ipkg install -d sd opie-mediaplayer2

Try konqueror(-embedded?) for the web browser, mplayer for movies, xmms/opie-mediaplayer2 for sounds, etc.

Then once you've installed everything you want run the following command to symlink the whole lot:

ipkg-link mount /media/card

Then hit the reload icons icon on the settings page (or use the shutdown applet to restart opie) and the icons, etc. will appear.


Si
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 01, 2005, 03:41:19 pm
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Rather than moving root to the SD card (which yo ucan do if you want), try installing stuff to the SD card, e.g.:

ipkg install -d sd opie-mediaplayer2

Try konqueror(-embedded?) for the web browser, mplayer for movies, xmms/opie-mediaplayer2 for sounds, etc.

Then once you've installed everything you want run the following command to symlink the whole lot:

ipkg-link mount /media/card

Then hit the reload icons icon on the settings page (or use the shutdown applet to restart opie) and the icons, etc. will appear.


Si
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In this way, can i install all packages or are the limitations ? All apps work ?

THANKS      

Bye
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on September 01, 2005, 05:59:55 pm
All apps will work, with the probable exception of things like kernel modules (things which are required before the SD card is re-mounted post-suspend).


Si
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 02, 2005, 03:00:07 am
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All apps will work, with the probable exception of things like kernel modules (things which are required before the SD card is re-mounted post-suspend).

Wich is the best way? if i make an image on the SD, on the internal storage what i need for boot ? Only the kernel ? Can use the space free on the internal storage for another use, like Memory (Cached, Buffers)  or most Internal Memory ?

THANKS
Bye
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on September 02, 2005, 07:34:24 am
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Wich is the best way?

IMHO use the Z the way it came and install stuff to the SD card using ipkg then ipkg-link it.

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if i make an image on the SD, on the internal storage what i need for boot ? Only the kernel ?

You'd only move /opt and /home.

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Can use the space free on the internal storage for another use, like Memory (Cached, Buffers) or most Internal Memory ?

No, it's flashROM, it cannot (should not) be used for swap space etc. (it's slow & it cannot be replaced and it has a finite write-lifetime).


Si
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 02, 2005, 08:58:11 am
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IMHO use the Z the way it came and install stuff to the SD card using ipkg then ipkg-link it.
I don't understand. Can you explain me?

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You'd only move /opt and /home.

Where i must move this dir? to SD?

I can download the zImage-collie-32-0-20050407102515.bin and install it.... so i have the internal storage free and them install all packages that i need on the SD.... what do you think?

What is the difference between zImage-collie-32-0-20050407102515.bin and the Image-collie-32-32-20050407102515.bin ?

I think that all the two image are make for work with 32 Mb of Memory, ok? This is right because SL-5500 have 32Mb of memory....

The image 32-0, if the internal storage is 0, where put the files? What install?  Because with the 32-32 my internal storage is empty !!!! As you can se by the image attached.

THANKS FOR YOU PATIENCE        
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: Greg2 on September 02, 2005, 12:15:35 pm
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I can download the zImage-collie-32-0-20050407102515.bin and install it.... so i have the internal storage free and them install all packages that i need on the SD.... what do you think?

What is the difference between zImage-collie-32-0-20050407102515.bin and the Image-collie-32-32-20050407102515.bin ?
You want the zImage-collie-64-0 (the 5000 is also named collie but only has 32MB available)
The difference between the 32-32 and the 64-0 is that the 64-0 gives you 64MB of RAM... but you must install most things to your SD-card to use this.

Have you formatted your SD-card with ext2 so you can install and symlink apps on it? If not please do... if you need any help the instructions are in the how-to section of OESF:
https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Step-b...ing_for_newbies (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Step-by-step_CF/SD_fdisk/formatting_for_newbies)

If you understand this and would like to try this type of install I would suggest you try the Hentges Rom. I will post a link here but please read the documentation on Hengtes.Net:
http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3...opie1.2.0.shtml (http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0.shtml)

Greg
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 06, 2005, 10:21:35 am
hello, the SD Kingston is arrived and i've formatted in ext2 and flashed the SL5500 with:
 zImage-collie-64-0-20050407102515.bin an opie. It's work well and see 64Mb of Memory....

But when i try to install opie-mediaplayer2 it failed:

"  root@Luke:~# ipkg install -d sd opie-mediaplayer2
Installing opie-mediaplayer2 (1.2.0-r0) to sd...
Downloading http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.....2.0-r0_arm.ipk (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie/opie-mediaplayer2_1.2.0-r0_arm.ipk)
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbdserial
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbkbd
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbmouse
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-hid
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for usbutils
libgcc1: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-evdev
Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 1.
Collected errors:
ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2:
         opie-mediaplayer2-skin libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) tslib-conf libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0)  "

What can i do? I think that i have wrong flashed the palm.....

HELP ME!

THANKS
Bye
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on September 06, 2005, 05:46:33 pm
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What can i do? I think that i have wrong flashed the palm.....

No, you've flashed the right thing don't worry.

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But when i try to install opie-mediaplayer2 it failed:

Because of this:

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ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2:
opie-mediaplayer2-skin libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) tslib-conf libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0)

The opie-mediaplayer2-skin dep is a know one - you have to manually install one of the two skin files which start opie-mediaplayer2-skin (should be in the feed).

I don't know why you've got these requirements for libqpe1, etc. as they should be installed already.

Which feed are you trying to use? The one which came built in?


Si
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: LukeLuke on September 07, 2005, 10:52:02 am
excuse me for my question..... but Greg2 say to install hentges, i try to install but have some problems:

the link for install guide is broken....how i can do it ? i have downloaded :

cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0-r1.bin
zImage-collie-64-0-20050723223653.bin
oz-opie-collie_T3-EN.tar.gz

I rename zImage-collie-64-0-20050723223653.bin in zImage
i have extracted the initrd by the oz-opie-collie_T3-EN.tar.gz and i have put this two file in CF and the cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.3-opie1.2.0-r1.bin in SD (ext2)

I have flashed but when opie start the display resolution is wrong....

EXCUSE ME!!!!

THANK YOU!!!!
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: Headrush on October 08, 2005, 01:41:28 am
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What can i do? I think that i have wrong flashed the palm.....

No, you've flashed the right thing don't worry.

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But when i try to install opie-mediaplayer2 it failed:

Because of this:

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ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2:
opie-mediaplayer2-skin libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) tslib-conf libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0) libqpe1 (>= 1.2.0)

The opie-mediaplayer2-skin dep is a know one - you have to manually install one of the two skin files which start opie-mediaplayer2-skin (should be in the feed).

I don't know why you've got these requirements for libqpe1, etc. as they should be installed already.

Which feed are you trying to use? The one which came built in?


Si
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I have the same problem. Everything is up to date, kernel-r21 and the 3.5.3 updates to libipkg0.

When I try to install almost anything to the sd, (yes formatted ext2), I get the dependency problem of libqpe1>=1.2.0 and libqte2>=2.3.10 needed.

Both are installed in RAM but system doesn't recognize them.

Any ideas/suggestions or links?
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on October 08, 2005, 07:26:55 am
What does:

ipkg list_installed *libq*e*

give you?


Si
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: Headrush on October 08, 2005, 09:27:20 am
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What does:

ipkg list_installed *libq*e*

give you?


Si
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root@collie:~# ipkg list_installed *libq*e*
libqpe1 - 1.2.0-r2 -
libqte2 - 2.3.10-r14 - Qt/Embedded Version 2.3.10
Title: [sl 5500]how Install Oz And Opie To Sd And Boot Sd
Post by: lardman on October 08, 2005, 11:01:56 am
Ah, I seem to remember something about the old ipkg (the one in 3.5.3) not handling the -rX business correctly.

You have the correct libs, it's just that ipkg doens't recognise 1.2.0-r2>1.2.0 and 2.3.10-r14>2.3.10.

Try using -force-depends, that way it'll ignore this error but still install other deps if available.


Si