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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: Sheila on November 01, 2005, 04:22:53 pm
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- I have pdaXrom rc12 newly working on my 3100, but am wondering if anyone has got firefox working? Dillo formats pages really strangely. If available, where to get?
- Are there any feeds for pdaXrom besides the pdaXrom site?
- If I figure out how to get the developer tools working, will I be able to make my own from source or is there a particular reason it's not available? I've got the time and a free computer so compiling time is not an issue. I'm not a developer, but run gentoo. Is setting up the compiler a case of setting it up and then running make, make install to create an ipk file, or is there alot more to it? Is it like having to make an ebuild file?
- Is there a way in the package manager to simply update all programs, or do I have to manually compare available and installed version? How can I tell which files come from which feed?
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- I have pdaXrom rc12 newly working on my 3100, but am wondering if anyone has got firefox working? Dillo formats pages really strangely. If available, where to get?
- Are there any feeds for pdaXrom besides the pdaXrom site?
- If I figure out how to get the developer tools working, will I be able to make my own from source or is there a particular reason it's not available? I've got the time and a free computer so compiling time is not an issue. I'm not a developer, but run gentoo. Is setting up the compiler a case of setting it up and then running make, make install to create an ipk file, or is there alot more to it? Is it like having to make an ebuild file?
- Is there a way in the package manager to simply update all programs, or do I have to manually compare available and installed version? How can I tell which files come from which feed?
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There's a lot of feeds, but you should be able to get what you want by :
- setting up the one in the announcement-post of rc12
- adding : unstable [a href=\"http://www.pdaxrom/unstable]http://www.pdaxrom/unstable[/url]
In package manager (qpkg) select firefox (in "available" tab) and install it (gear-symbol).
upgrade all programs :
from command line :
# ipkg update
# ipkg upgrade
(I don't think there's any need for doing this on rc12 yet)
dev-tools :
Yes and no, it all depends, ...
Welcom and good luck,
Chero.
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use the 7x0 feeds?
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There's a lot of feeds, but you should be able to get what you want by :
- setting up the one in the announcement-post of rc12
- adding : unstable http://www.pdaxrom/unstable (http://www.pdaxrom/unstable)
In package manager (qpkg) select firefox (in "available" tab) and install it (gear-symbol).
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Obviously... Your link is incorrect. It should be: [a href=\"http://pdaxrom.org/unstable/]http://pdaxrom.org/unstable/[/url]
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use the 7x0 feeds?
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Not there, or in the SL-6000 feed. I have tried about 5 different firefox ipk files, including one I found in a feed called oldunstable.
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C1000-C3100 series feed...
are u talking about this feed?
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/)
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use the 7x0 feeds?
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Not there, or in the SL-6000 feed. I have tried about 5 different firefox ipk files, including one I found in a feed called oldunstable.
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I believe he means this feed:
[a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/[/url]
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setup RC12 C7x0 feed as secondary in the package manager , update feeds and install.
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setup RC12 C7x0 feed as secondary in the package manager , update feeds and install.
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I can't seem to find vnc in this feed... where is it?
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I can't seem to find vnc in this feed... where is it?
tightvnc ?
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setup RC12 C7x0 feed as secondary in the package manager , update feeds and install.
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I can't seem to find vnc in this feed... where is it?
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client: [a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/tightvnc_1.2.9-1_armv5tel.ipk]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-86...-1_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
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does this mean i get the november pointy hat award?
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ADF: actually you get if for two months for free....
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So how well does firefox work in pdaXrom at this point (ie how stable and fast is it compared to opera in cacko)? I have postponed trying both pdaXrom and oz for the longest time since anytime people ask about browsers on the forums the answers seem to indicate that it's either difficult to install or it runs much slower. Now that new cacko is out but also people are saying all these good things about pdaXrom I can't decide which way to go (and would like to avoid repartitioning/flashing for both if i can avoid it - I would say I have read enough good things about pdaXrom to go with that - especially now that kopi/kapi are there - but the browser I'm still not convinced about).
Anyone can offer some opinions/advice I'd really appreciated it.
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Anyone can offer some opinions/advice I'd really appreciated it.
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I have just installed pdaXrom. I started this thread because I couldn't find firefox in the 3100 pdaXrom feeds, but you have to prefix 'mail' to the front of other models' feeds. Then firefox is there. I have only run it for about 20 minutes, and so good so far.
I can't comment on speed vs. opera and cacko, but it might be quicker than running through the SharpROM and then X. I certainly gets me there quicker!
The stumbling blocks I found installing pdaXrom that took time to solve were the above, and:
1. Using a vfat partition is flakey. I made a single partition and formatted as ext3. Then things worked.
2. You have to edit the resolv.conf file, not count on using the gui.
I went straight from the sharp rom, and so far have successfully installed apache, php, kdepim and a bunch of command-line stuff. mysql installed successfully but I haven't run it yet.
What is annoying is the aterm applet doesn't work reliably (I just launch it from the tree), and I haven't figured out how to get the task bar to autohide. I would rather run fluxbox, but couldn't get the menus to work..
Now I really just want to compile my own software without having to rely on someone else's feeds (and give back) and then I'll be happy. If someone would comment intelligently to my original post regarding this, that would be really useful, I hope, for everyone.
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I actually prefer fltdj to kopi..much faster.
Firefox loads more slowly than opera. it loads pages about as fast. It opens its own menus (like preferences) more slowly. It is perfectly useable on pdaxrom--I found it unuseably slow on xqt, if that helps. Firefox has more of a future than opera, in that new versions can be built, and extensions and plugins (like gplflash, or evn vlc) can be used. My solution is to keep a couple browsers available:
Firefox for secure or complex or media rich stuff
Dilllo for quick casual browsing (as fast or faster than opera, usually good rendering, no ssl)
links (links -g) as a quicker lower bandwidth (and sometimes more stable) alternative to dillo.
you will probably find that you'll want a swapfile with firefox, though it is not necessary by any means.
laze: 2 months? I'll have to put red and green leds in it .....
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I actually prefer fltdj to kopi..much faster.
Firefox loads more slowly than opera. it loads pages about as fast. It opens its own menus (like preferences) more slowly. It is perfectly useable on pdaxrom--I found it unuseably slow on xqt, if that helps. Firefox has more of a future than opera, in that new versions can be built, and extensions and plugins (like gplflash, or evn vlc) can be used. My solution is to keep a couple browsers available:
Firefox for secure or complex or media rich stuff
Dilllo for quick casual browsing (as fast or faster than opera, usually good rendering, no ssl)
links (links -g) as a quicker lower bandwidth (and sometimes more stable) alternative to dillo.
you will probably find that you'll want a swapfile with firefox, though it is not necessary by any means.
laze: 2 months? I'll have to put red and green leds in it .....
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er....
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adf: You just got two moths more :-) And no it comes prefitted with blinking leds etc.
Shelia please explain this and problems with resolv.conf?
>>I have just installed pdaXrom. I started this thread because I couldn't find firefox in the 3100 pdaXrom feeds, but you have to prefix 'mail' to the front of other models' feeds. Then firefox is there. I have only run it for about 20 minutes, and so good so far.<<
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adf: You just got two moths more :-) And no it comes prefitted with blinking leds etc.
Shelia please explain this and problems with resolv.conf?
>>I have just installed pdaXrom. I started this thread because I couldn't find firefox in the 3100 pdaXrom feeds, but you have to prefix 'mail' to the front of other models' feeds. Then firefox is there. I have only run it for about 20 minutes, and so good so far.<<
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Firefox is not in the feed: [a href=\"http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/]http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/[/url] or http://pdaxrom.org/unstable/ (http://pdaxrom.org/unstable/). It can only be found in: http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/). It is also not in the http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/). It's just there's alot of inconsistencies between the exact domainnames of the feeds, and how they're specified on this forum's announcement, and on the pdaxrom site. There seems to be an old version of the site that is still active and it gets confusing really fast.
I assumed you could set-up nameservers through Lan & Wifi or USB in System Tools, but you have to set-up nameservers by editing resolv.conf manually, which is a pain because the ROM only includes vi. It would be so nice if nano, pico or edit was included for us non-geeks so we wouldn't have to jump through the hoops of learning vi commands, or getting everything by ip address only.
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the ROM only includes vi
You can use mcedit from the command line
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http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/) and the http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/) is te exact same.
The basic "idea" right now it that the 7x0x-860 feeds contains all the non special optimized versions.
When we make the new site available it will probally be that all files are available in all feeds.
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http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/) and the http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/ (http://212.10.30.205/rc12/Zaurus-7x0-860/feed/) is te exact same.
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- Yesterday, and right before I posted this, they weren't (I DID doublecheck because it seemed so illogical Captain). Now they're the same. Weird!
- mcedit is confusing. Show it to someone who has never used it. They won't be able to figure it out without a manual.
- Can you point me to some sites where I can figure out how to compile my own packages?
- I was trying to run alot of packages to purposefully see how far I could go to break things, and loading firefox, kopi, aterm, and then firefox again by mistake hung everything. How do I do a ctrl alt delete? I had to take out the battery. Then after a restart, my mycalendar.ics file was 0 bytes and caused a segmentation fault in kopi, and I had to delete it, then things worked. I formatted the hd as 1 partition ext3 with no swap file. Should I re-format and make one? Or is there another solution? Or is this why kopi is in unstable?
- Firefox is definitely way faster using pdaXrom than the Sharp ROM and X.
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- Can you point me to some sites where I can figure out how to compile my own packages?
cross (on a pc) or native (on your zaurus) compilation?
if you search a bit here you will find some information. Also see the documentation on www.pdaxrom.org.
I was trying to run....
You probably run out of memory.
ctr-alt delete would be calendar-address-bs.
When you stop the zaurus by removing the battery, all sorts of strange things can happen to your open files,,,,
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- mcedit is confusing. Show it to someone who has never used it. They won't be able to figure it out without a manual.
If you're looking for something simple, install "nedit" from the feed.
- Can you point me to some sites where I can figure out how to compile my own packages?
If you go for native compiling, there's a start of a howto on my website (see signature)
- Firefox is definitely way faster using pdaXrom than the Sharp ROM and X.
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It sure is.
Chero