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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 09, 2004, 01:23:41 pm
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ok ok ,,,... i know what you are thinking why would you want to do that? The thing is my bro got handed down my old sl-5500, he isn't linux familiar, more used to the Winxp interface. Apart from that he really wanted to play Age of Empire on the pda, and as far as i know its only released for wince. Could anyone tell me if this is possible? Is the proccess similar to installing OZ? Thanks a bunch.
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not possible.
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why would you want to do that? I know you answered, BUT... the idea make me wince, /joke off
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not possible.
Depends on what you mean by \"possible\"
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Yeah right, everything is possible given enough time and motivation and skilled people...
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Actually there are two possibilites, neither of them very likely:
1.) Flash the OS from a Pocket PC that has the exact same hardware configuration as the Zaurus.
2.) Buy a license from M$, and port Wince to the Zaurus yourself. Who knows, if you go this route, you might find you have a marketable product for those who want to downgrade their Zaurus.
Clive
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[span style=\'font-size:30pt;line-height:100%\']YUK!![/span]
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Twas me..... FWIW
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[span style=\'font-size:30pt;line-height:100%\']YUK!![/span]
^^^^^^^^^^^
Twas me..... FWIW
I can only agree, Yuk is the right response. If Sharp would get off of their butts, and do some decent marketing of the Cxx series, Pocket PC and wince, would be just a glimmer in the rear view window.
Please Sharp (who I know are not listening).
Clive
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Please don\'t flame me for this.
I tried flashing my Z with a modified Wince ROM, just out of curiosity, but it failed.
You know how it is, you have a spare afternoon, nothing on tv, you think what will waste my time.
Nothings better for wasting time than a M****soft product.
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You can get an evaluation version of Microsoft\'s WinCE platform builder for under $20 (thats the tool all the pocket pc vendors use to put together their own roms). The tool gives you a great deal of flexibility in building a WinCE image. So yes, it would require some engineering effort, but probably no more than porting Linux to a new iPaq, and that process is starting to get streamlined.
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Believe me its not worth it!
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To amplify what DrWowe answered: You can actually download the eval kit for free: That\'s the good news. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/evaluate/evalkit/default.aspx) The bad news is that the images you produce will stop working after 120 days. The worse news is that a full toolkit (which you\'ll have to buy, since you are probably the first person to want to do this) will cost appx. $995 \"Suggested retail price\" (http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/howtobuy/xp/pricing/default.aspx). On the other hand, you can (theoretically) recoup some of that by selling licenses of your new, spiffy image to other people. (Of course, the price is based on how many licenses you sell...so that $995 might increase...). So...the short answer is still: Don\'t bother!
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A wince wine-like emulator for the zaurus seems much more likely to come out for the Z to me (and IMHO would be just as much of a waste of time)
Btw, wasn\'t Zaurus intended for Linux-unfamiliar users in the first place? Partly, at least, with all those Intellisyncs and the likes...Oh, and maybe your brother will actually like Strategic Assault(http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=14) as a compensation?
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I had this problem once; I really wanted to play those neat PocketPC (legit or otherwise) games. So what I did was buy a slightly used Ipaq 1945 at eBay. Now I use my Z at work (only) and the Ipaq for play I\'ve never been so happier ever since.
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Hey, easy on the guy!!!!
Me too I'd like to see WinCE on the big Z, but just to score geek points! (and preferably in multiboot mode, so you can show to people how crappy M$'ses wannabe "operating" system is, by swapping to the power of Linux on the fly...
And why: because it is possible, indeed!
Ever played ASCII Quake??? CRAZY concept, but one guy wrote a render engine that replaced the graphical render engine of Quake and turned all pixels into ASCII characters. And it worked.
Usefull? Haha, no, I don't think so, but pretty amazing!!!! Cool but useless
Same goes for WinCE on the big Z: usefull? Naaaah, but a very cute joke!
JM.
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Why, why, why, why, oh God help me WHY does this subject not die? WHY? This garbage has been trawled over again and again and again.
So I will say it again.. (sigh)
No, the Z does not run damned WindowsCE/PocketPC or whatever the stupid thing is called, NO NO NO.
It doesn't, it wont. I will not be unkind but it seems we have a real problem with some newbies who have aquired one of the most obscure products on the market and then wish to install an OS to make it the same as the rest of the garbage on the market. I seriously don't get it.
And before the inevitable replies which we've seen ad infinitum, yes I know some people "like the hardware but..." or there is some "software for PPC and if only..." or even that tired arguement which has been raised and culled many a time "because it's cool..." whatever that means. To /dev/null with it, along with questions like "when will Apple make a PDA" or "why doesn't Sharp do X or Y".
The Zaurus is a Linux device, that means it was designed to run Linux. If you want Microsoft's products, just buy one, there is a sea of such devices out there. You CAN install a Linux on some CE machines, go to a CE forum and put your questions there, this is a Zaurus user group, by inference you may deduce that this is predominantly a Linux forum.
Zaurus + CE = NO
CE device + Linux = Yes, depending on machine
A simple equation that does not require an understanding of higher mathematics or the Oracle of Delphi.
Please, no more.. just do a search before posting these questions. It's an OLD discussion and a waste of 1's and 0's going over it again.
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Sorry Padisha, I didn't want to step on your toes.
I myself very strongfully dislike Micro$oft's flakey OS wannabees.
The reason why I bought a Zaurus in the first place, is BECAUSE IT RUNS LINUX, so that it's integration with Linux is flawless (even though you can install Linux on other handhelds, I wanted the Zaurus because it COMES with Linux (and Java))!
I'd like to emphasise this because I'm not a newbie who just bumped into the most exotic handheld and now suddenly * NEEDS * WinCE to run my old wince software.
I also think WinCE is baaaad, let this be clear and I don't want to USE it, I just want to have a laugh with it, that's all!!!! Capish?
(In contrast with the original poster, who actually wanted to use wince on his Zaurus (yuck!))