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General Forums => For Sale / Wanted => Topic started by: neuroshock on November 16, 2005, 10:11:42 pm
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Sold.
Winning Bidder was registered Ebay member "timriker".
The winning bid was for $622.01
I don't yet know if this is one of our forum members but it would be nice if it was.
Thanks for everyone who expressed interest. I do plan on selling another soon (before Christmas).
God Bless,
-NeuroShock
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This is a shameless plug for a Brand New, Never Used, Zaurus SL-6000L I just listed on EBay.
Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5831722636 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5831722636)
In case the item Link above is broken it is Ebay Item #5831722636
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EDIT: I have dropped the "Buy it Now" price by $51.00 usd to hopefully make it more affordable to those on the forums here- I hadn't even given it a thought when I originally pulled a number out of the air. If you're interested in doing the "buy it now" thing it should be considerably less now than anywhere else on the internet that you could buy it new. Unfortunately this also makes it even more affordable and attractive for NON-forum bidders as well so hurry if you want it.
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It should become available to be bid upon immediately, is a 5 day Auction, NO Reserve, bidding starts at $1 and "Buy It Now" is an available option.
I decided to go "No Reserve" figuring that if by some quirk of fate nobody bids very high maybe a fellow ZUGger could pick it up cheaply. However it would be REALLY nice of someone to just go ahead and bid about $12,000.00 and be done with the thing!
Come Ooooon....you KNOW you want to!
Alrighty- enuf fun for now.
Happy Bidding!
-NeuroShock
Edit this is the relisted Item information (updated around 1:02pm est 11/17/2005)
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Hmmmmmm....
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This listing (5831470966) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly.
If the item was removed by eBay, please consider this transaction canceled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs.
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we..or at least I'll be looking forward to your 6k/31k comparison.
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Well, my plan is to sell all three of the sl-6000 units I have if they fetch at least $500ish apiece. I'll then turn around and reinvest in a new SL-6000W (like I should have to begin with but wasn't patient enough), and a new SL-C3100. If the first one or two sell for less than $500 I'm just going to sell two of them, keep the third, and buy a SL-C3100.
Either way, I want to end up owning a 3100 and a 6000 (of some kind.) If the 3100 screen grows on me enough and I convince myself that it's just as good then I may sell all the 6000's and move to clamshells. I really don't expect that to happen as I have already SEEN the screens side by side, and they acuity and extra .3 inches REALLY DOES make a difference (to me anyway.) The .3 inches translates to the same visual real estate as upgrading from a 16" monitor to a 17.28" monitor, and the quality the same as a generic KDS to the Sony Vaio LCD panel in comparison. Being disabled and such, I use a device such as this waaay to much as a book-reader and/or to browse the net when I cannot even dream of getting to my Desktop Comp.
So gotta have my 6k fix. By grace of the fact I spent the money to a backup unit while I had the money last year, and the fact that they are selling for much more than I paid for them now is the ONLY reason I'm really making a foray into the SL-C3100 realm. I'd REALLY like to expand my entertainment options by watching fullscreen movies and using my Z as a multi-media center as well and my 6000 just does not excel in that particular area.
EDIT: I edited that last sentence because it was unfairly extreme. However suffice it to say that I'm pretty dissapointed that so far the 6k has never been a barn-stormer in this area. I've seen Quake/Hexen/(any video player you please)/Doom etc. play on a C860 and it's a LOT better. Also watching movies is tough for me on the 6k because I'm very sensitive to refresh rates etc. so the best I've ever managed still seems choppy and has "tearing". When overclocked my SL-5500 plays better mpeg4 movies at the same 320x240 than my 6k does at that resolution. However I'll freely admit I've never used the Guyhelm Kernel AND pdaXrom at the same time- I will definitely do that before I draw up my final conclusions and post them on the matter.
Adf, I've felt your pain and discontent running parallel to mine as we both left footprints on this matter throught the diff forums over not being able to get the best of both worlds. I do promise you a very detailed and gritty comparison after I've used both for about a week or so (maybe longer because both will require flashing to pdaXrom and/or Guyhelm rom after they arrive) - I'm going to try both ways with the 6k before I pass judgement as I'm thinking Guyhelm's rom or his kernel may give a bit more performance boost to the 6k simply because he's made the 6k his work focus area.
So stay tuned. The FIRST thing is getting my listing right...(or this project is doomed from the start), so try that link and let me know if it's working for you guys!
-NeuroShock
we..or at least I'll be looking forward to your 6k/31k comparison.
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I must've finally gotten it right as someone now has a bid on it for $1.00
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I must've finally gotten it right as someone now has a bid on it for $1.00
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I would like to bid too. You listing indicates, that you ship to Canada
"Shipping costs: (To Canada) Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details "
- but you dont tell how much that costs... ( so: how much is it?)
I tried to enter my bid, but ebay did not let me. Can you check how you set up your listing please?
( I have also emailed you via ebay - sorry for the double post)
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I must've finally gotten it right as someone now has a bid on it for $1.00
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I would like to bid too. You listing indicates, that you ship to Canada
"Shipping costs: (To Canada) Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details "
- but you dont tell how much that costs... ( so: how much is it?)
I tried to enter my bid, but ebay did not let me. Can you check how you set up your listing please?
( I have also emailed you via ebay - sorry for the double post)
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Wow, that really sucks that it won't let you bid. I'll go check that immediately. I think I vaguely remember having to make a decision about that and wasn't thinking "Canada" when faced with the word "International"- I almost think of Canada as our long-lost 51st State.
You can read my response on Ebay, I also have sent you a PM here on the forums which you SHOULD read also.
I'll report back in a few about whether I got it fixed so you can bid etc.
-NeuroShock
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I found the problem. Canadians should now be able to bid with no problems whatsoever. And since the bid currently is still at $1 it is QUITE the bargain!
Good Luck!
-NeuroShock
UPDATE: He's still having problems bidding. Sometimes it takes Ebay 10 mins or so to update itself with new changes, so if anyone else is experiencing his problems wait another 15-30mins and try again. Please PM me or post here- I'll call Ebay and see what can be done to get it fixed if it doesn't update within a few hours. It looks like it may go REALLY cheaply (which is fine with me if that's what destiny/God's Will in the matter is) but I'll be VERY unhappy if it goes that cheaply and one of our own members isn't the recipient! I want the home team to win this one. =)
I'll check back here at the forums periodically throughout the day untill we get the kinks worked outa this thing.
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ARRRGGGH! Why do these things always happen to ME?!
*sigh* The stupid listing is "broken". I have their sincerest apologies but I will have to prematurely end the auction and relist it at no penalty to me or International bidders may not be able to consistently bid. If I fail to end the auction within 4 hours they will invalidate and delete it to prevent misbids by unwary bidders.
I'm now bald since I've pulled all my hair out. It wasn't even my error it was THEIRS! mumble mumble ... Rage against the Machine....mumble mumble
It's going byebye and I'll have it relisted and this thread updated with the new appropriate link in just a few mins.
Sorry about the inconvenience,
-NeuroShock
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When you relist is there any chance you might consider opening the bidding to the UK?
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Ok everyone, it's relisted. So you won't have to scroll up to the top here's the new info:
Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5831722636 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5831722636)
In case the item Link above is broken it is Ebay Item #5831722636
Happy Bidding!
When you relist is there any chance you might consider opening the bidding to the UK?
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No, I really don't want to, BUT I guess I will BUT YOU MUST READ EVERYTHING BELOW OR DON'T BID!!!!
I've tried 3 times in the past to ship to the UK and each time ended in either a 6 week long debacle, or in the buyer having to pay rediculous import fees if insured, or broken merchandise if it wasn't. In one instance I ended up having to unpack, inspect, repack resend THREE TIMES before the buyer accepted delivery.
As for the rediculous import fees, you'll have to talk to your elected governmental leaders. Why the UK puts such a heavy fine on imports from the US when we give them "Most favored trading status" is completely beyond me. It's much easier/cheaper in my experience to ship FROM the UK to the US than it is the other way around.
Now...having said all that, I would be willing to work with you or any other OESF member in good standing that lives in the UK if YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Payment MUST be via Paypal and you will have to pay ANY AND ALL fees incurred by either of us so do your research up front.
2. We will have to calculate shipping once the auction ends, but as long as you're willing to pay for it I'll certainly ship it. My only stipulation is that we must BOTH AGREE on the shipper and that the shipper must offer some form of tracking method and delivery confirmation.
3. You will have to make the same decision struggle that Canadian posters do with the Insured/ Uninsured issue. (see the ebay listing)
4. You will have to give me PRECISE shipping instructions once we come to an agreement on the shipper. Research what needs to be done to keep your own government off your back first! I will then follow those directions to the letter.
5. I will ship NOTHING until we've gotten the above all hammered out and agreed upon AND THE PAYMENT FOR MERCHANDISE AND SHIPPING RECEIVED!
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6. (This is the real gut checker.) It's a completely "Blind Deal" from my perspective. Once I ship it following your instructrions it is YOURS regardless of ANYTHING. No refund. No replacement. No returns. No reshipping. No kidding. If they charge you a million dollars in import taxes, if it arrives in a billion pieces because it fell 1,000 feet to the tarmack off the Airplane, if you reject delivery for ANY REASON, etc. etc. etc. you're stuck with it. Period.
If your agreeable to the above and live in the UK and have been a member of this forum for at least 45 days AND YOU ARE COMPLETELY AGREEABLE to ALL OF THE ABOVE then sure, go ahead and bid. I'll be more than happy to work with you the best I can.
With how I have it setup now you should be able to place a bid even if your a registered user in the UK. I will NOT however be stating any of this in the auction and certainly NOT be extending this offer to anyone not a member here on the OESF forums. It is completely a favor to my friends here.
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I will delete and reject any bid that I feel doesn't meet the above requirements! The moment you bid you need to copy and past the contents of this post into a PM to me and state that you will gladly abide by each and every one!
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Me personally, I'm not sure I could abide by the above strictures, but if you can I will do my utmost to make things proceed in the best manner possible and will pack even better than I offered to Canada. *gulp* I hope I don't regret this decision- my problem is even after saying all this if it goes bad for the buyer because of shipping issues I feel totally awful. I've got a conscience that just won't quit.
Oh well, if I was in the UK I'd hope someone would do it for me.
Before anyone asks NO I won't ship anywhere else...if you live in Europe then see if you can find someone in the UK who will ship it to you and if you and/or they are agreeable to the above scenario then I'll do my best. But the buck stops here.
Good Luck all!
-NeuroShock
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EDIT: I have dropped the "Buy it Now" price by $51.00 usd to hopefully make it more affordable to those on the forums here- I hadn't even given it a thought when I originally pulled a number out of the air. If you're interested in doing the "buy it now" thing it should be considerably less now than anywhere else on the internet that you could buy it new. Unfortunately this also makes it even more affordable and attractive for NON-forum bidders as well so hurry if you want it.
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9 posts and 2 threads in one day.
I think we are aware that you sell your zaurus now
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9 posts and 2 threads in one day.
I think we are aware that you sell your zaurus now
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I am truly very sorry. It was not my intent to spam the forums, I was just totally unprepared for the requests from the different international users here to open the bidding to them, the fact that Ebay would kill my posting due to some freak error on their part, etc.
I'll try to go clean up all the misc. posts if you or the moderator would like. I posted only in aswer to others, or to fix problems that were pointed out with my original two posts (one here and one in the Deals forums- both legitimate areas to post something of this nature.) It just seemed to keep piling up one thing right after another.
I have no concern for my Z selling at all- any working 6000 that has sold, sold for no less than $449.00 in the last 60 days on Ebay(I know I've been tracking them faithfully), and all but two of those have sold for over $500.00. There were 4 successive listings by a person trying to sell thier SL-6000L for around $800.00- needless to say his did not sell. So regardless of whether I post here in the forums or not it will sell easily and well especially as it is brand new. I'm sure others will easily validate this. I only posted with the hopes that a Zugger or OESF forum member may beat the rest of the world to the punch or get a great deal on a Brand New 6kL for MUCH cheaper than anywhere else. I still believe that can happen and like it a LOT when it does.
I am sorry if I offended you or anyone else in the process. I will gladly delete all my posts concerning this item if you wish, or I'll request the moderator do it for me. Please let me know.
My Apologies,
-NeuroShock
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certainly you can do better than "sucks" for multimedia on a 6k.
I have using a mixture of stuff from guyhem and mazlovsky, or by using pdaxrom.
for the kind of multimedia thing you are talkng about, i'd have gone for a pepperpad or a nokia 770.
still a "head to head" will be interesting
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certainly you can do better than "sucks" for multimedia on a 6k.
I have using a mixture of stuff from guyhem and mazlovsky, or by using pdaxrom.
for the kind of multimedia thing you are talkng about, i'd have gone for a pepperpad or a nokia 770.
still a "head to head" will be interesting
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Adf,
Fair enough. I was a bit frustrated with my 6k when I wrote that and it seems excessive to me now also- I just changed it and added a few more comments to better explain my issues with Video performance on the 6000.
Also I really have contemplated buying a non-Zaurus, but I'm just a Linux addict to the core and to the best of my knowledge the Zaurus clamshell's and the 6000 series are the only Linux based Pocket-PC class computers out there that perform well enough to tackle the job.
Another thing, Adf I truly respect your opinion a lot and always have as we've banter'd back and forth over the various issues etc. concerning the 6000 in the last year. Knowing that and also knowing you have found an urge to possibly get a 3100 yourself, PLEASE feel free to PM me with the issues that are the most important/relevant when comparing these two models. I'm sure my own personal "issues" are not the norm when ppl look at these models simply because of my rather unique needs/wants. Your input about what to compare/contrast when I do the review will make it much more useful to others I believe.
As always Thanks!,
-Neuro
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I have a 6000 and a 3100, but I haven't used them to their full abilities yet. They will drive home the point that both are good devices, but each are missing a feature the other device has.
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I have a 6000 and a 3100, but I haven't used them to their full abilities yet. They will drive home the point that both are good devices, but each are missing a feature the other device has.
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I think this hits it... That I hate to buy something so close in performance without getting a real benefit that touches on how I use the z.
Multimedia: I'm really ok encoding video for my 6k, and happy enough with mplayer playback that it wouldn't cause me to switch. In multimedia my current issue is my stupidly enormous radio shack 2.5 to 3.5 mm audio jack converter that sticks straight out of the z. (I should buy earbuds to fix that, though..not a new z)
However, on the same rom, (I'll give you guylhem and cacko for sharp variants, if you like) is the 3100 video playback any better, or can it be done with less power?
Form factor: The clamshell is acknowledged to be the best style for these things, and I do like landscape mode as default. Also the keyboard is considered better. I'm pretty used to my 6k, though and am curious to hear from someone who uses both if they see a real practical benefit to the better keyboard, and if the use of the stylus doesn't get awkward? (for those used to the 5x00&6k, that is)
More important here is size and weight. The 6k is, as we know, huge, and reguires a "bat-shield" screen protector to be pocketed without fear for the screen. It folds out to about a kubit long when one is typing.
Is the 31 noticeably smaller, lighter, more pocketable? I mean in a way that would change how often/easily and in what pocket it might be carried? If I put the 6 in my pants, I need suspenders to keep 'em up and am really AWARE of it.. any better on the 3100?
The last thing is the screen. I spend a lot my Z-time in firefox & vnc, and some in scite and abiword; a real loss in screen quality would mean a real reduction of my enjoyment of the device. I'm curious about how this compares in "head to head" use.
and a brief note--Both the Nokia 770 and the pepperpad run linux.
The pepperpad is much bigger than a z..approx 12"x6" w/ a 20 gig hd and 800x 600 screen and a pxa proc at 600+ mhz and media co-processor
The nokia is keyboardless with only mini sd (and I think usb) external storage an 800x480 screen and no keyboard at about the size of a 5500. it also has some kind of media co processor, I think
For multimedia and entertainment, the new gamepark thing the gxp2? g2xp? gx2p? looks pretty cool, and very cheap (also linux)
and is the tiqit ever going to actually hit the market????
My thoughts on the matter ATM -- that, and for american, at least, the dollar is good vs. the yen. good time to buy.
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You really don't seem to have much luck here. Your link takes me to either a Japanese / Chinese (can't tell the difference) page or a page not found. I'll have a go
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ5831722636 (http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ5831722636)
eBay can't leave things alone. It used to be so easy to copy and paste and now you have to manually edit the flaming thing to get it to work properly. Let's hope this does.
I do a lot of shipping into the UK from the US (and other places) and you can be lucky. When customs get hold of it they often pass it on without charge. It's just the luck of the draw. I've just come back today from the US and if timing had been better I could have carried it in for whoever bought it. I don't think I am going back until January but I may be having things posted here in December. If a UK buyer gets it then I am prepared to ship it to work with other things if there is anything coming over, then repost it in the UK (provided I get the money for that). The company I work for are based in Boston US and Manchester UK.
A word of warning. From my experience shipping in December is a bad idea, more gets lost and significantly more gets broken at the back end of November through December than at any other time.
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adf,
the 3100 screen is not quite as good as the 6000, but it is still very good. The default landscape offsets the difficiencies in the screen.
I can't comment on video as the 3100 is still new to me and the 6000 has just been freed from server duty (the 760 is now the web/ntpd server). I will be putting on the guyhelm rom soon.
The 3100 keyboard *is* much better. You have dedicated number keys. You are also typing less on the tip of your fingers and more on the ball of the finger.
The 760 has the best weight and size. The weight of the 3100 is comparable to the 6000. Size wise I get the impression the 3100 and 6000 aren't too far off. The 6000 is longer, but the 3100 is thicker and slightly wider. The 3100 fits more pockets and bags, but bulges out more (good for some guys I guess). I'm not even going to compare with expansion sleeve.
Is the 3100 worth upgrading from a 6000? For pda duty or programming, yes. Integrated Wifi is less important than a better keyboard, 128MB user space and 4GB hdd. For wardriving or surfing wifi for around the home, the 6000 is simpler to use. Reading on the 6000 is better due to screen size. If you have the expansion sleeve the battery life is huge, but so is the size and weight (double)
I am very forutnate to have all three Zs
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for the kind of multimedia thing you are talkng about, i'd have gone for a pepperpad or a nokia 770.
still a "head to head" will be interesting
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Adf,
I finally found the time to go lookup info on the Pepperpad and Nokia's 770!
There are LOTS of things to like about the Pepperpad, not the LEAST of which is the potential for the Linux OS it's loaded with to be hacked to Venus and back! However when you hit that $800.00+ price tag you suddenly see LOTS of reasons why not to buy a device that is limited to life within the home. For example while I'm at home it almost IS an ideal multimedia solution, but for when I'm in the Hospital and lack Internet connectivity its appeal becomes much weaker. Also it has occurred to me that it COULD be a super Ebook reading device! Which is very exciting since IMHO no company has hit upon a really good Ebook reading device (imho there hasn't been a decent Ebook reader since the Gemstar/RCA REB-1100)- um except that the Pepperpad has NO ebook reading software *sigh* Maybe once there's some linux hacking/development on the Pepperpad it may become my ultimate device for my peculiar needs! But not right now, not for $800.00. It's gotta grow up first.
The Nokia 770 I'm not as sure about. Reviews seemed split 50/50 with the writer either being almost orgasmic about the device or flaming it into never-never land. Information (well GOOD information) seemed much harder to come by. As opposed to the pepperpad, the pricetag seemed much easier to swallow at around $300 dollar(ish). Depending on which review you read you may or may not come to the conclusion that it's actual performance in multimedia apps (Mpeg4 etc) is up to par. I'm also still unclear as to whether they have left the OS open for tweaking and altering or if it's locked up tight hardcoded to a rom. However if it performs really as bad as quite a lot of the reviews claim, then I would get better performance from my SL-6000. (which I'm obviously not happy with either.) But, as with the Pepperpad, so long as the OS is hackable I'll take the "glass half full" view of both devices. Once some alternate OS/Roms and/or a greater variety of programs (insert "JustReader" here to start with) I may very well become the owner of one or both. It looks VERY promising for the future. But not for now. It doesn't even seem like a close call due to either Money on one hand, or Performance on the other or the lack of a broader range of programs for both.
Thanks Adf, keep stretching my awareness every time you get the chance. I'd never have tripped over those devices myself-(I didn't even know to look!) You should REALLY consider starting a thread in an appropriate forum around here for devices like the Pepperpad and Nokia 770 that may be of interest to others and that may mesh well with the Z's we already have. I'd bet good money that in the near future if you were to couple a device like these with a Zaurus you'ld have a better overall package/performance while STILL paying less than you would for inferior performance on a laptop. You're a natural at this and you can say in 10 concise words what it takes me 3 full paragraphs to get across- I envy that ability.
Thanks for making me think, and as always- "yer da man". Don't ever stop smacking me in the face with cool stuff like this- finding even one device of this nature can GREATLY increase my quality of life as a disabled person and- I've never told you this- but it was a post of yours that drove me to buying a SL-6000 in the first place. I'm not even sure if you had yours yet at that time yet but your cool headed thoughts about the matter made it an easy buy for me. I've NEVER regretted buying a 6k and I've enjoyed it like no other pda/device in it's class that I've ever had or seen. What this means to ME is that you're personally third in line for the person(s) who most greatly increased my quality of life in the last 12 months. For that I'm grateful beyond words.
Your Friend,
-NeuroShock
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Glad you found the info useful. Pepperpad, I think has put out a dev kit. Might not be too hard to port stuff, as it is a pxa 270.