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Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: dz on December 21, 2005, 09:07:24 pm
Hey Guys,

I'd like to propose a possible change to our Wiki setup.  As most of you have seen, we are very prone to spam on the Wiki.  I've been having to do almost daily scans and changes to the pages because these spammers are killing us.  I love the Wiki option, but it's honestly getting out of control.

The other day, I stumbled upon a CMS that I think might serve our needs well.

http://www.geeklog.net (http://www.geeklog.net)

After inspection and use on a couple of my sites, it seems to be the Slackware of the CMS world.  You can create pages and make it so that a group of people can edit them.  So basically we still have our Wiki abilities, but this time if you want to edit you have to ask to be part of the group.  It also has some extra managerial things that I think we could benefit from.  I know that we can lock the pages on a Wiki, but as far as managing it it's not really organized at all.

If you guys could check it out, let me know what you think.  If you want to see it in action, check out: http://www.ws2g.org (http://www.ws2g.org) .. There are some other excellent sites using it as well, such as http://www.delta3d.org (http://www.delta3d.org) .

I really like it, and if we were to use it I could just make it so that the Wiki user database uses the database from this forum so there's no extra signing up or anything.

Anyways, please let me know opinions.  I'd like to have a discussion about it and then eventually, depending on what the concensus is, draw a poll.

Thanks Guys,
Roy
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: gds on January 03, 2006, 08:18:45 am
I have no experience with geeklog (although it looks very cool, and sharing the accounts with the forum would be very useful).

I thought I'd mention that if you want to stick with wiki software I have had good results with MoinMoin, which has some Anti spam features (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AntiSpamFeatures). It's been pretty sucessful (although not 100% perfect) at dealing with spam (particularly when using the Automatic updates (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AntiSpamGlobalSolution)).
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: dz on January 09, 2006, 10:34:55 pm
Hmm, I'll look at that one.  I like Geeklog because it also lets us manage other things easier.  Not that I have a problem with Wikis, but I just think it'd be easier to just manage who can edit the files.  It takes 3 seconds to PM me and just ask to be added to the group of users that can edit them, but it'll save me tons of time of combing through the Wiki weekly making sure there's no spam.
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: zeigerpuppy on January 13, 2006, 05:31:28 am
I don't have much experience with Geeklog, but I have found a combination of
plone, zwiki and epoz, all standard debian packages
to suit my needs very well. It can be set up so that only authoirized users can edit folders/pages and
the WYSIWYG functionality is nice.

I have a zaurus 3100 wiki evolving on my site which may be a good example of what can be done.
I find it so convenient that I keep work logs on this type of system.
http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Zaurus3100 (http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Zaurus3100)

If you like the look of this wiki, let me know and I will dig up my installation notes, I think it was fairly straightforward and I have notes on how to make it private too.

Frank
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: Steve1963 on January 22, 2006, 05:10:50 pm
Frank,

I'd appreciate notes on how you set up your wiki as I'd like to do the same myself.

Steve
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: tapjpa on January 22, 2006, 05:49:29 pm
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I don't have much experience with Geeklog, but I have found a combination of
plone, zwiki and epoz, all standard debian packages
to suit my needs very well. It can be set up so that only authoirized users can edit folders/pages and
the WYSIWYG functionality is nice.

I have a zaurus 3100 wiki evolving on my site which may be a good example of what can be done.
I find it so convenient that I keep work logs on this type of system.
http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Zaurus3100 (http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Zaurus3100)

If you like the look of this wiki, let me know and I will dig up my installation notes, I think it was fairly straightforward and I have notes on how to make it private too.

Frank
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DZ- I'm not sure what your looking at will really end all our problems and be that maintence free. I was actually just looking at zeigerpuppy's site before I even saw this thread and really like what he's doing. Might be worth looking at and if he's interested maybe pulling him into the mix here. I know I'm not as active here as I should be maybe the extra help would benfit the site as we all seem to have our hands full with life in general.

Just my 2 cents if it's even worth that

Jim
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: gojira on January 23, 2006, 01:43:01 am
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I really like it, and if we were to use it I could just make it so that the Wiki user database uses the database from this forum so there's no extra signing up or anything.
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I think that needs to be done regardless.  It'd be nice to have some guidelines for forum use, such as searching the wiki before posting a question, and adding the answer to the wiki when you find it, but but having to create a new account and login separately makes that even harder...
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: zeigerpuppy on January 28, 2006, 01:57:13 am
Hello,
I have just written a little page descibing the basic setup of the WYSIWYG wiki based on ZWiki.  The page is available at http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Wiki (http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/Wiki)

Please feel free to PM if you need any more details... also feel free to edit the wiki if you come up with anything that may help other users.
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: chasetec on February 06, 2006, 12:22:37 pm
Maybe I'm missing something but going to geeklog they run a phpbb and a mediawiki.....
Title: Possible Wiki Change
Post by: iamasmith on February 06, 2006, 03:00:13 pm
Take a look at MoinMoin (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de), it has a blacklist feature that lets you configure illegal content including phrases and banned WebSites

You must obviously be able to host your site with a Python interpreter though.