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Everything Else => Sharp Zaurus => Model Specific Forums => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => 6000 - Tosa => Topic started by: malik on January 03, 2006, 08:25:38 am
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hello out there,
i read about users who wanted to sell their tosa, others bought a 2nd
zaurus and again others flash frequently from rom to rom. some time ago
i also had the idea to change the zaurus model. there must be reasons for
that and i think its not the hardware aspect of this device.
the aim of this thread should be to share your thoughts and experiences
on the different roms. it can also be useful for others who want to test
a different rom. what do you like, what do you hate? what works, what doesnt?
i will start with my opinion on the different roms. some of them i used for
several months, some only for several hours. but maybe others will write more
on the roms, i only tested.
before i start, i should mention for what i use my zaurus most of the time:
reading news with opiereader, pim (kopi), latex, wikipedia with zbedic,
from time to time mp3s and ebooks...
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SHARPROM
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for the moment it seems to be the best choice for me. i used it for the
most of the time, but nevertheless my report is short.
installed/working applications (besides usual ones): tex/dviviewer,
usb keyboard (also usb mouse, but i dont use it), xqt/pocketworkstation,
giant icons on root
todo: maybe i will replace the default fonts and update opera
pros: stability, browser opera, wlan out of box
cons: no progress, no development --> no future ?!
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PDAXROM
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i used (maybe i should write tested) it for nearly 3 months with ups and downs.
in the end i had the feeling that i dont use this rom on a daily basis, i was
spending a lot of time in getting things to work. i had problems with
suspend/resume and in some cases only taking off the battery helped.
this was more than 6 months ago. now i tried 1.1 beta out and i was suprised
but in the negative. it took me 10 minutes to flash back as everything
i tried out went wrong: i started scite and dillo, minimized it,
then i recognized that the time was wrong. setting the time resulted in turning
off the backlight and killing the minimized applications?! i added a rotation
applet on the taskbar. but i was not able to rotate back. suspending confuses
me as the backlight is turned off for more than one second and then the device
does that what it should do.
all this sounds bad, but it is nothing serious. i know that a lot of tosa users
use this rom, so it has to be good. and be sure that i will give it another try,
maybe using a different wm than matchbox.
pros: great, active community and communication. very nice rom with all the
advantages of X application. the idea of running the same wm on my linux box
(kde) and my zaurus is somehow cool.
cons: see above. maybe the speed of the tosa (and the rom) is not sufficient
enough to run big applications like kde.
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OPENZAURUS
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oz was the reason getting me a linux pda instead of a pocket pc. i owned a
collie running hentges rom and everything was fine, ii was also running
sharp applications under opie with compat libs.
pros: very structured development with higher aims (i dont know if this is
a really pro in view of the users). upcoming kernel 2.6, but unfortunately
the tosa device does not play a main role for natural reasons.
ability to run a lot of applications, those of the sharprom world with opie
and compat libs and also X applications with gpe. the dual boot idea is
also very good.
cons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, which hold me back on jumping on
this train, in the first place the line drawing bug, sound problems with opie,
missing keys. the bad thing in my opinion is that all the mentioned bugs are
not new and are well known from previous releases.
i dislike the feed structure of oz. net, network, networking, this confuses me,
a directory named e and a lot of ones with only one package, hundreds of
"locales". maybe it doesnt matter for those who use ipkg from the console,
but if you want to use the package manager it matters..
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GUYLHEMROM
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a kind of "one man show". i tried it in the beginning and had the feeling
that this rom was more or less a personal nand backup, a kind of snapshot.
i also tried the fast kernel thing getting me crazy as the "f" key turned
the light on and off. natural consequence: i avoided this rom for months.
now i tried rc4 and i was suprised. i like the boot screen (no confusing
warnings as before). a lot of things changed.
pros: the exact battery applet, nice fonts. the idea of getting the existing
rom more usable. guylhem used nicer fonts, why not use nicer icons?
cons: i removed a lot of applications and installed some others, but i was
not able to remove the corresponding icons or to move them between
the categories with the help of the launcher. restarting opie and rebooting
didnt changed anything except the touchscreen was not responding (maybe i
removed the wrong applications).
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I switch between pdaXrom (the newest beta version works well for me) and Sharp ROM, although I've heavily customized the Sharp ROM. I've been experimenting with Guylhem kernel, by default he changes all the keymappings but you can change it back by recompiling. As soon as I get that finished, do you want me to post it? It should just be a few days if all goes well.
I acquired a C760 recently and I've been playing with Cacko ROM. It's very very nice, it's what Sharp ROM should be. I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM. I'll post back if I get that going.
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I switch between pdaXrom (the newest beta version works well for me) and Sharp ROM, although I've heavily customized the Sharp ROM. I've been experimenting with Guylhem kernel, by default he changes all the keymappings but you can change it back by recompiling. As soon as I get that finished, do you want me to post it? It should just be a few days if all goes well.
I acquired a C760 recently and I've been playing with Cacko ROM. It's very very nice, it's what Sharp ROM should be. I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM. I'll post back if I get that going.
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I would also be very interested in tyring the rom you have customized for yourself. If you have time combining best of Cacko and Guylhem's ROM would make a really nice combo.
You say that he changes all the keymappings by default and you can change back if you recompile the kernel. Why would you want to change back? the Guylhem rom is the only one i have had working with all the keyboard "out of the box" with out hacking it. What advantage do you see in going back to the "default" keymapping. I know you have been able to make your own keymappings using the keycode.tbl file, is that the reason you would go back?
Thanks
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cons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, which hold me back on jumping on
this train, in the first place the line drawing bug, sound problems with opie,
missing keys. the bad thing in my opinion is that all the mentioned bugs are
not new and are well known from previous releases.
I know about the (orange?) line bug which is a kernel issue afaiu, this requires people to investigate and fix it. There aren't many people with 6ks so this takes time I'm afraid.
Although you say they are well known, are these other bugs - sound with opie, keys, etc. in the bugtracker?
Si
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as I understood it, Guylhem ROM for 6000 was a work in progress with Guylhem replacing components of Sharp ROM with new things as and when he had time... bits of Cacko are already there.
Whilst Guylhem has done some sterling work in fixing the Sharp bodges and making a clean install, it's a long way off being Cacko for the 6000 as yet,
When I got my 860, I tried Sharp rom only briefly, went straight to Cacko 1.22 (trying thin and fat), and are now v happy with 1.23 fat. Anton truly did a remarkable job, not just in putting together a complete package, but also in back-porting kernel components after 2.4.18 back into the sharp kernel. I don't know where he gets the time!
I think if Guylhem had the time, the G-ROM would be catching up with Cacko...
I donated to Cacko, to Guylhem, and would happily donate to Dr Wowe if he came up with Cacko-6000. I am also hopeful that the bounty for accelerated video for the 6000 will help too.
Paul
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@drwowe> sure, i am very interested in the guylhem kernel with or
without the different keyboard supports. the cacko/guylhem synergy
sounds also well but may be harder to realize. thanx in advance.
@lardman> concerning the other mentioned bugs i had an older thread
and a comment of mickey in mind, see oz 3.5.3 bug list, post #14:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12076 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12076)
at this point i think that i have to check whether my oz/upgrades feed
is not an old one. thanx:-) the sound problem only appeared in
opieplayer2, not in gpe. i installed mplayer from the oz feed, but if
i remember right it had similiar problems and was much too slow. trying
out a mplayer binary from my sd card (from a sharp rom installation) let
me forgot about this bug, it had no sound problems and was much faster.
but you are right, reporting bugs should be much better. the line
drawing bug was reported at the end of november! oz 3.5.3 was
announced in april...
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the sound problem only appeared in
opieplayer2
What is the problem with it? Not that it plays too fast by chance? If so, this is generic for PXA machines and is caused by the conf file having one missing setting in it. Do a search for 'opiexine' and alter the conf file accordingly.
the line
drawing bug was reported at the end of november! oz 3.5.3 was
announced in april...
I have actually seen some posts about this bug, but as only one person was working on it (iirc), progress will be slow unless others want to help out.
Si
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I've tried each of the ROMs for the 6000, and have settled on the OZ release candidate, despite the remaining problems. The others, outside of the Sharp ROM, have several problems which are showstoppers for me.
In OZ, the orange line problem is largely gone -- you still see one every so often, but only briefly. The missing keys and problems with authenticated SMTP remain the biggest problems for me, but I can live with them for now. I haven't noticed any sound problems, though (unless it's the double-speed in opieplayer thing, which is easy to fix, and I use XMMS anyway).
In the near future, I'm going to get a development platform set up. Perhaps I can help with some of the OZ kernel problems (my favorite programming is low-level programming).
My second choice would be Guylhem, although the problem with using the on/off button is a big enough deal for me that I ditched it as soon as OZ RC1 came out.
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I use pdaXrom, rc12 version.
AFAIK, the only thing that doesn't work is alarm while suspended, but I think the recent version that just came out may fix that.
I get to use Firefox and have a complete dev cramfs from the pdaXrom feeds.
I tried the others, but have no plans to go back now that I have pdaXrom.
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I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM. I'll post back if I get that going.
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Just an update here. I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working. I've got Cacko on the 6000.
Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.
Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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I'm thinking about combining that with Guyhelm kernel and seeing if I can make a Cacko-6000 ROM. I'll post back if I get that going.
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Just an update here. I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working. I've got Cacko on the 6000.
Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.
Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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That would be really great. I have always thought that the cacko rom for the 6000 would make it the best hand held. The only thing that would be different is that Kino would not be as good since video acceleration is not working at the moment.
I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together. Let us know if you would like to recieve some donations to help with the porting progress. Thanks
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Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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this is fabulous news! If it weren't for the experiments to implant bluetooth into the 6000 and add flash and ram, I would be selling my 6000 and 860 now to buy a 3100. I too would like to offer beer tokens to encourage you. When (to be positive) accelerated video comes along, the 6000 will suddenly realise its full potential!
I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together.
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I have no idea for the name. CG6000 Rom is better than anything i have attempted to put together.
thinking out loud...a bit of name mangling...
Guylko? Cackhem?
Cackaznur? or Azko (to use Guylhem's surname).
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Just an update here. I've been working on this a bit for the past few days and it's working. I've got Cacko on the 6000.
Not everything is working yet and there are bugs, but I'm hopeful I can get them worked out and make a release eventually.
Any ideas for what I should call it? I'm thinking "CG-6000 ROM" to acknowlege Cacko and Guylhem.
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this sounds great. though the name should be secondary CG is ambiguous
on this device --> "CG Silicon"... i am ready to test anything you upload;-)
@lardman> i guess you are right, its a speed issue of the opieplayer and can be fixed
easily...
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I agree with Malik, maybe you could agree with the Cacko Rom guys to be considered as an official SL 6000 Port so you can use their name
If you need beta-tester do not hesitate !
Concerning the opie-player issue the speed problem is indeed easily fixe by uncommenting a line in the opiexine.cf file see here https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...998&hl=opiexine (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15998&hl=opiexine)
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Looking forward to the Guylhem + Cacko.
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I would love a better ROM than the Sharp ROM, and the Guyhelm-Cacko sounds like it might be good. I hope its finished soon. :-)
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any news on CG6000 rom?
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I've actually been relatively content with the Sharp ROM -- relatively, I mean, compared to what else is on offer. Anything that involves extensive terminal tweaking after flash is enough to put me off changing: maybe because I'm lazy, maybe because I'm stupid, or maybe because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems like pretty a good philosophy for something I use every day for writing, e-mailing, PIM and listening to music. I really can't afford to have it in some half-finished beta state.
For all intents and purposes, the Qtopia/Sharp ROM is polished and stable, if not exactly feature-rich. I personally would rather see enhancements to it instead of a slew of whole new projects, but that might only be because I have no coding skills whatsoever and an aversion to heavy-duty tinkering (which I'd say goes beyond the definition of tinkering).
One thing I can't understand is, why can't we find a 6000W ROM and extract the Bluetooth software modules from there? (I think guylhem's got one already.) That way, the 6000 would have native BT support and we could be ahead of other models in at least one software category.
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any imporvements on oz on the 6k?
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any imporvements on oz on the 6k?
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IIRC working keymaps and working suspend/resume.
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Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
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Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
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Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
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One thing I can't understand is, why can't we find a 6000W ROM and extract the Bluetooth software modules from there? (I think guylhem's got one already.) That way, the 6000 would have native BT support and we could be ahead of other models in at least one software category.
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I'm satisfied with the Sharp ROM too. It would have been nice to try guylhem's rom, but I think it's more on the dead than alive side. He does good work, but I have the feeling to get it to the point of being released will take a while more, perhaps 6 months to a year down the line. His last work was in October, which would make it about 6 months since any work was done on it.
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Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
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Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
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That has been fixed a while ago. 2.6 is running very, very well
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Does OZ support wake on alarms yet? I mean does it have a working calendar system in either gpe or opie? Thats one of the big reasons i have not given it a long test.
Todd
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I am starting to play with running pdaxrom with enlightenment17.
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I currently have USB networking so that I can uses x11vnc to control the 6k while it is in the cradle.
KOPI has imported my ics file so I have access to my currect calender. The lack of Pi-sync bothers me a little both as of e17 ont he z I so far find it very nice and responsive.
The screen rotate button int he ibar works great. I was not able to get matchbox to rotate the 6k(at least I coudl nto find how).
The escreenshow module does not work.
Teh battery meter shows 100, 75, 50 , 25 but also show how many minutes it believe I still have left. I am not sure how accurate it issince I have nto been timing it.
Suspend works from teh power button. Every time so far this weekend it has returned without a problem but I currently have everythign installed locally and not on a cf or sd card.
I am currently still trying to get Wifi working.
I hope to get wifi working in the next couple of days.
Just though I would put inthat info about using pdaxrom on the 6k...
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Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will allow me to use WIFI connections without a command line script ? I can't wait until DrWowe's CG6000 rom is out to breath new life into my 6k...
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A ROM, no, but you can use either gpe or opie with openzaurus to use wifi with gui tools.
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Does OZ still display yellow/orange "interference" lines on the 6k? That was kind of a problem last time I checked. I don't mean to belabor it, though. It would be a nice 6k system if that had been fixed.
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That has been fixed a while ago. 2.6 is running very, very well
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Then maybe it is time for another look at gpe
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nevarie: try wlan-ng 0.2.1-pre26 - they should work (we use them in OpenZaurus 3.5.4). 0.2.2 will NOT work.
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Nevarrie,
It would be really nice if you could share your experience in using pdaxrom on the 6k, esp the wifi part, thank you, and i understand that we can actually dual boot the pdaxrom from sd so to keep the stock in internal flash?
can someone point out the + and - of doing so?
p/s: it's really been quiet around here (6k) and i really envy all the attention others (3k, 1k) have..
I am starting to play with running pdaxrom with enlightenment17.
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I currently have USB networking so that I can uses x11vnc to control the 6k while it is in the cradle.Â
KOPI has imported my ics file so I have access to my currect calender. The lack of Pi-sync bothers me a little both as of e17 ont he z I so far find it very nice and responsive.Â
The screen rotate button int he ibar works great. I was not able to get matchbox to rotate the 6k(at least I coudl nto find how).
The escreenshow module does not work.
Teh battery meter shows 100, 75, 50 , 25 but also show how many minutes it believe I still have left. I am not sure how accurate it issince I have nto been timing it.
Suspend works from teh power button. Every time so far this weekend it has returned without a problem but I currently have everythign installed locally and not on a cf or sd card.
I am currently still trying to get Wifi working.
I hope to get wifi working in the next couple of days.
Just though I would put inthat info about using pdaxrom on the 6k...
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e17 on Zaurus 6000 looks pretty sweet!!
I got my Zaurus back in 2004. I used OpenZaurus for about a year until one day that I decided that the orange line really annoys me and switched to PDAX rom.
I run PDAX rom as my daily rom now. I primarily uses fluxbox, Firefox, Minimo (scaled down version of FireFox) , AbiWord, mplayer, xmms, and qbedict.
Here are some of my experiences from PDAX rom.
Firefox: Takes roughly a minute to load, once loaded it works great.
Minimo: Runs great, tries to render everything so that you don't have to scroll horizontally. But its effort sometimes actually screws up the page. It's kind of buggy.
Abiword: I use it to take notes when I am reading.
Qbedict: I use it to look up words I don't know when I am reading. It's usually run in conjunction with Abiword in different "workspace" of Fluxbox.
mplayer: I used mplayer to watch re-encoded xvid movies when I need to take flights. No complains here. I also use it to play online streamed NPR.
xmms: Works great.
I pretty much use PDAXrom as a scale down version of Linux PC and NOT a pda. This factor alone makes the transition to PDAXrom worth it. The only draw back I have with PDAX rom is that there's not much development for Zaurus 6000. I personally wish I have more time to do some development on it, but just don't have time.
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e17 on Zaurus 6000 looks pretty sweet!!
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I run PDAX rom as my daily rom now.
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How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?
Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?
Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?
What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?
I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
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Nevarrie,
It would be really nice if you could share your experience in using pdaxrom on the 6k, esp the wifi part, thank you, and i understand that we can actually dual boot the pdaxrom from sd so to keep the stock in internal flash?
can someone point out the + and - of doing so?
p/s: it's really been quiet around here (6k) and i really envy all the attention others (3k, 1k) have..
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I am sorry that I did not see your post till today. After finding that pisync and screen where not included on pdaxrom I decided to see what programs would do the things I wanted my Z to do(As a PDA). I finally gave up about a month ago on making my Z work as a PDA that will sync easily with my exchange server at work. I really only used pdaxrom for a few weeks with e17. It ran great but I could not figure out how to sync it with my exchange calender and I could nto get my targus IR keyboard to work. I never had a problem with wifi other then I it does nto ahve a gui for bringing wifi up and down or choosing profiles but aterm and vim worked for me.
In the last month I have went back to flashing between pdaxrom 1.1.0beta1, OpenZaurus e17 with 2.6 kernel, OpenZaurus GPE with 2.6 kernel and angstrom.
I have not tried booting pdaxrom off of my sd card, probly should so I am not reflashing every other day.
I am currently flashed back to using pdaxrom with e17 again so I can work on writing a gui for the wifi that will work as an e17 module. So we will see what comes out of that.
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How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?
Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?
Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?
What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?
I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
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I am no sure what was the acceleration issues in other ROMS. My experience with Open Zaurus and PDAX ROM is that if a movie is re-encoded to 320x240 with 15 fps, it can be play full screen without dropping any frame and audio/video out of sync. There is a program I found in OESF forum that I use to re-encode my XVID movies for Zaurus. I can lookup the name of program later tonight when I get home.
I have the PIM software installed, but never really used it much. So I can't really help you on that.
Wifi works ok, but I use a script instead of the GUI. I couldn't get the Wifi GUI to work. My Zaurus is without Bluetooth; can't give you any pointer on that.
I forget to mention few other programs I use frequently on PDAX rom in my last post:
GAIM: I consistently log onto msn and yahoo messenger to take a look on who's online. Witout an external keyboard, it's hard to carry out conversations on Zaurus.
KPHONE: I use KPHONE to dial toll free number for internation calling cards during the day when my cell phone minutes are low. Some phone card does not recognize the DTMF send by KPHONE, overall experience is still positive though. Voice call through SIP woks decently well.
xvncview and server: I find xvncviewer less useful when connect to a Windows vnc server, but it works well with Linux vnc server if you set the resolution usable for Zaurus. xvnc server works pretty well. I use it pretty often when I am at home on my real computer.
xpdf: I rarely use it unless, but the times I used it to read pdf e-books, it works fine.
Here is my conclusion for PDAX rom:
I think it's a pretty decent ROM. It requires some tweaking and getting use to when first used. I think the first thing you need to do AFTER installing PDAX rom is to get the libstdc++ library. I am not sure if it's the case anymore.
I love the customisibility and versatility it gives me at the expense of some learning curve. If you have some experience with desktop Linux I would highly recommend giving PDAX rom a try if and only if you have some free time.
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How's the overall speed of pdaxrom compared to a ROM like Sharp or OZ?
Can you play movies fullscreen using mplayer in pdaxrom, or does it suffer from the same video acceleration issues as the other ROMs?
Is there any good PIM software, or does the K/Pi suite work just as well?
What's the deal with WiFi and Bluetooth? Is the reconition of the 6000's built-in WiFi flaky? Is Bluetooth working as good as or better than the Sharp-based ROMs?
I'd really appreciate it if you could answer all those. I'm dying to ditch the Sharp ROM for something as beautiful as E17, but stability, speed and hardware integration have kept me from pdaxrom so far.
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I am no sure what was the acceleration issues in other ROMS. My experience with Open Zaurus and PDAX ROM is that if a movie is re-encoded to 320x240 with 15 fps, it can be play full screen without dropping any frame and audio/video out of sync. There is a program I found in OESF forum that I use to re-encode my XVID movies for Zaurus. I can lookup the name of program later tonight when I get home.
I have the PIM software installed, but never really used it much. So I can't really help you on that.
Wifi works ok, but I use a script instead of the GUI. I couldn't get the Wifi GUI to work. My Zaurus is without Bluetooth; can't give you any pointer on that.
I forget to mention few other programs I use frequently on PDAX rom in my last post:
GAIM: I consistently log onto msn and yahoo messenger to take a look on who's online. Witout an external keyboard, it's hard to carry out conversations on Zaurus.
KPHONE: I use KPHONE to dial toll free number for internation calling cards during the day when my cell phone minutes are low. Some phone card does not recognize the DTMF send by KPHONE, overall experience is still positive though. Voice call through SIP woks decently well.
xvncview and server: I find xvncviewer less useful when connect to a Windows vnc server, but it works well with Linux vnc server if you set the resolution usable for Zaurus. xvnc server works pretty well. I use it pretty often when I am at home on my real computer.
xpdf: I rarely use it unless, but the times I used it to read pdf e-books, it works fine.
Here is my conclusion for PDAX rom:
I think it's a pretty decent ROM. It requires some tweaking and getting use to when first used. I think the first thing you need to do AFTER installing PDAX rom is to get the libstdc++ library. I am not sure if it's the case anymore.
I love the customisibility and versatility it gives me at the expense of some learning curve. If you have some experience with desktop Linux I would highly recommend giving PDAX rom a try if and only if you have some free time.
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I see you mentioned watching video on your 6000 in pdaxrom. Would you mind explaining your setup. I have done that with success on the sharp rom but I cant seem to get much to work on the pdaxrom side.
Thanks
Todd
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I see you mentioned watching video on your 6000 in pdaxrom. Would you mind explaining your setup. I have done that with success on the sharp rom but I cant seem to get much to work on the pdaxrom side.
Thanks
Todd
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There is a post pin on top of the forum. Ｉgot all my info from that thread.
Please check that thread.
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Its been awhile since this thread was started and all of the projects (OZ, pdaxrom, etc) have come a long way. I would be interested to hear what other people are using as a day to day work rom right now?
Todd
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Its been awhile since this thread was started and all of the projects (OZ, pdaxrom, etc) have come a long way. I would be interested to hear what other people are using as a day to day work rom right now?
Todd
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Right now, pdaxrom 1.1beta1 (stable?). I was hoping to do a guylhem pdaxqtrom combo, but guylhem's rom seems not likely to apper very soon. I think it might end up a tetsuized sharprom/pdaxqt running kino, shoutcastplayer, netfront and, of course, firefox. (as well as the standard rom and pdaxqt stuff)
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adf,
Im currently using the tetsu kernel that you pointed me to. i like it. Im running the battery aplet from guylhems page. Im also running the pdaxqt from sd. The setup is fairly good. The pdaxqt works great for smaller apps but apps like firefox are very slow (vs normal pdaxrom) even with the system overclocked to the max. I have thought about going the other way and running qt stuff on pdaxrom but im not sure how well that will work and right now im stuck needing something that will sync with either evolution or outlook.
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thanx for the discussion on the tetsu kernel :-) it works very well. i have a question:
i also downloaded the battery applet from guylhems page and added the file freqchange.conf to ~/Settings, so i can over(under)clock the cpu. but i missed the detailed battery feedback from the applet in 1% steps which was present in guylhem rom. whats the point: differences to tetsus kernel or do i have to install tetsu kernel modules or do i have the wrong applet package or ???
thanx in advance, malik
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I have noticed that as well. Im not sure what the fix is. I would install the modules ipk from tetsu page. It fixed a problem for me ( i just cant remember what ).
Todd
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I have noticed that as well. Im not sure what the fix is. I would install the modules ipk from tetsu page. It fixed a problem for me ( i just cant remember what ).
Todd
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does this mean that you fixed this problem? i installed the modules ipk but it changed nothing. please try to remember, try hypnosis or whatever, i need it thanx in advance...
malik
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according to the table at the end of tetsu's homepage there is no detailed battery feedback from the testu kernel for the tosa. this confuses me a little bit...
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[atm I'm running sharp/tetsu/pocketworkstation with fbvnc and keypebble. I need to ioad a better baattery app 8guuylhem's) and see. I think I might switch to pdaxqt.... I''m mainly interested in firefox plugins- lke java.
glad the tetsu/shap thing is gaining ground. I wish,though, that the OZ folks would get a decent working mutli network capable network applet for the 6k
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[atm I'm running sharp/tetsu/pocketworkstation with fbvnc and keypebble. I need to ioad a better baattery app 8guuylhem's) and see. I think I might switch to pdaxqt.... I''m mainly interested in firefox plugins- lke java.
Sounds like you're like eji and I, who are mostly satisfied with the Sharp ROM. Is there a page that shows the sharp/tetsu/powerworkstation thingie? From what I'm gathering, it's mostly sharp but some tweaks here and there?
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kernel upgrade from tetsu tesu.homelinux.org
modules to go with that kernel
self contained X environment running fro sd card...sharprom as main system.
best bet here is probably meanie"s pdaxqt rom.
a nice ssetup; really
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I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc... Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
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I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc... Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
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Hi,
Find the topic named something like "tutorial for 6000", and there is a step which
untars a file into root's home directory, which will set things up as a decent starting
point. You will get a desktop with many icons, openbox window manager, and
many matchbox panel apps.
As far as keys, there is another step which mentions a change to
use the tosa.modmap file. I have notes somewhere, but I have still not
found a "decent" no-ad/free web hosting site to put them in a nice organized place...
And please, no one suggest bizhat, I'm still mad at that site!
John
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I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, startx only gives me three xterm w/o scroll bar, not to mention it does not fit the screen and key mapping is not complete, etc... Is this what supposed to be? Do I have to configure from scratch while other models have a nice default graphical rom? Am I missing something?
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I uses [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom]https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom[/url] to get pdaxrom up and running on my 6k. Then I follow http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/Zaurus_C-860...etup/index.html (http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/Zaurus_C-860/E17_setup/index.html) so that I can have e17 on my Z when I am running pdaxrom.
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I uses https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom (https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=How_to_install_pdaXrom) to get pdaxrom up and running on my 6k. [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=137720\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Let's go one step a time. I followed the how to and did the tar --no-same-owner -xf /root/.home_default.tar part, but that's where I ended up as described in my previous post.
I did get couple of lines complaining about xauth after startx, but I doubt that's guilty part:
xauth: error in locking authority file /home/root/.Xauthority
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Hmm, I can't say for 100% sure, but I think something is going wrong for
you right away. What does "df -h" show? Perhaps you are out of space
on /, from a failure to partition correctly, as in the NAND-restore to Guyhelm
first, if you came from the Sharp ROM.
I forget what the contents of that tar file look like, (directory structure), are you
sure the files got extracted to the correct place? I assume you are using "startx"
logged in as root to start up X?
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I forgot abou the fact that I set my root partition to 45mb so that I have enough space to install programs. I do this even on my OZ setup now since e-image takes up 33mb for install so only e-image-core work on the 6k without building a custom kernel.
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thanks miskinis and nevarrie, out-of-space during installation is also my gut feeling. What's happening was that I simply pushed OK during resizing the partition, assuming the recommended 45MB is the default value. Of course I ended up with 0MB. I updated the Howto to remind me my stupidity. Now trying to figure out enlightment...
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searched over all places but still have no clue how to bring up the wlan0. somebody please enlighten me...
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searched over all places but still have no clue how to bring up the wlan0. somebody please enlighten me...
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I thought I created a script to bring wlan0 up and down but I can not find it in my backup. I want to say the script loaded the modules and then used dhcpcd to get an ip. Sorry I can not be much help.
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Look for a pointer to the "6000 tutorial" post in a recent post to the
pdaXrom forum. That information is what I used to setup WIFI on
my 6000, but you will need to know the ESSID of the access point
you wish to connect to.
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you know... I was thinkiing about this 6000 wireless issue...
would it not be best (I would take a long time to/do it, but maybe someone more fluent could whip one up) to run kismet, or other most basic wireless scan,, take essid and other (channel,wep maybe,etc) pipe it to a bash scipted curses menu, giving the option to select frm available networks and pass further options if necessary to the wireless config, which then takes the optons and connects?
this would work with a little tweaking on oz and pdaxrom, being, in essencerom agnostic.
then we could have a nice "point,click, and connect me whereever I am without headaches' interface. not pretty, but I think maybe a pretty built in working wireless config applet for th6k 3rd party roms just isn't coming.
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pdaXrom experiences after a week:
+++ wifi problem solved, kismet configured, Pegasus II driver present, roadmap + flite installed with 2004 Tiger map working, KOPI installed
--- need to find left-handed screen rotation, have to compile kernel for pl2303 driver to support my usb GPS ...
still digging posts in the pdaXrom. Really like the desktop feel, but wish I could get all my hardware working under pdaXrom. I need to use my usb gps + zroadmap + flite for a trip this weekend, so will flash back to the sharp rom. Btw, does a nand backup of pdaXrom enough to bring me back to where I am?
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@xjqian: concerning the rotation on pdaxrom: the forum says that i had the same problem:-)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...459&hl=rotation (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13459&hl=rotation)
i have to look it up (this may take a while), but it was very easy changing a configuration skript. but you have to apply a different keymap if the screen is rotated. i have found it, last post in:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14052&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14052&hl=)
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Is there any other rom with wifi working out of the box or from the connect icon for the 6000..it seams a shame to waste that feature and have to input script to use it every time.
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Is there any other rom with wifi working out of the box or from the connect icon for the 6000..it seams a shame to waste that feature and have to input script to use it every time.
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I have not found one other then the QT based off the sharp rom. I have had some sucess with wlanfe and wlanfe2 but they only give me a gui frontend to work with the wlan-ng driver, they do not search out for the networks around. Though it might not be that hard to add that functionalitly since you can uses:
wlanctl-ng wlan0 dot11req_scan bsstype=any bssid=ff:ff:ff:ff:f
f:ff ssid= scantype=both channellist="01:02:03:04:05:06:07:08:09:0a:0b:00:00:00" minchanneltime=300 maxchanneltime=500 append=true
I even have a script(found it on the internet) that prints out all of the networks around me. I have not had time to make it into something better such as a efl or gtk app.
Here is my wlan_scan script:
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/sbin:$PATH
ChannelList="01:02:03:04:05:06:07:08:09:0a:0b:00:00:00"
ChannelMinTime=300
ChannelMaxTime=500
modprobe ohci_hcd
modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1
result=`wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable`
exit_code=$?
eval $result
if [ $exit_code != '0' ] || [ $resultcode != 'success' ]; then
echo "wlan init error"
exit 1;
fi
result=`wlanctl-ng wlan0 dot11req_scan bsstype=any bssid=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff ssid= scantype=both channellist=$ChannelList minchanneltime=$ChannelMinTime maxchanneltime=$ChannelMaxTime append=true`
eval $result
if [ $resultcode != 'success' ]; then
echo "wlan scan error"
exit 1;
fi
index=0
resultcode=success
while [ $resultcode = 'success' ]; do
result=`wlanctl-ng wlan0 dot11req_scan_results bssindex=$index`
eval $result
if [ $resultcode = 'success' ]; then
basic_rates=''
for ((i=8; i; i=`expr $i - 1`)); do
eval "rate=$basicrate$i"
if [ "x$rate" != 'xno_value' ]; then
basic_rates="$rate $basic_rates"
fi
done
support_rates=''
for ((i=8; i; i=`expr $i - 1`)); do
eval "rate=$supprate$i"
if [ "x$rate" != 'xno_value' ]; then
support_rates="$rate $support_rates"
fi
done
echo "SSID = $ssid"
echo "TYPE = $bsstype"
echo "MAC = $bssid"
echo "CHAN = $dschannel"
echo "WEP = $privacy"
echo "SIGNAL = $signal"
echo "NOISE = $noise"
echo "BASIC RATES = $basic_rates"
echo "SUPORT RATES = $support_rates"
echo '-----------------------------------------------'
fi
index=`expr $index + 1`
done
rmmod prism2_usb
rmmod ohci_hcd
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Thanks manik, I was able to fix the screen rotation issue pretty easily following your suggestion. Here are my solutions and the wiki will be updated.
1)modify /usr/bin/rotate.sh
change "left" to "right"
2) modify /etc/sysconfig/clamshell/scripts.d/x11src
make the corresponding lines look like the following
landscape(){
/usr/X11R6/bin/xrandr -o normal
xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa.xmodmap
portrait(){
/usr/X11R6/bin/xrandr -o right
xmodmap /etc/X11/kb/tosa_right.xmodmap
3) make a copy of tosa.xmodmap to tosa_right.xmodmap
fix keys in tosa_right.xmodmap
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the latest OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 is pretty good, I reflashed to Opie and it looks pretty good. Well worth giving it a try.
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the latest OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 is pretty good, I reflashed to Opie and it looks pretty good. Well worth giving it a try.
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what about a web browser in opie? I'm really not happy with ye olde konqueror embedded....
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there is a way using compatibility libraries to install Opera - see the OZ threads, but it's not quite trivial.
konqueror is getting pretty good these days. Even Dillo is now far from useless.
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ok..dl'd OZ 3.5.4 (newest I could find for tosa.)
Thought I'd try altbooting to a cf...maybe even give e17 a whirl......
but all came to a screeching halt when I completely failed to find an updater.sh file!
Anyone have the updater? would you mind posting it or pointing me to it? the only feed I could find for tosa:
http://linuxtogo.org/mirror/openzaurus.org....4/images/tosa/ (http://linuxtogo.org/mirror/openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/images/tosa/)
had an updater.sd.md5, but no actual file
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ok..dl'd OZ 3.5.4 (newest I could find for tosa.)
Thought I'd try altbooting to a cf...maybe even give e17 a whirl......
but all came to a screeching halt when I completely failed to find an updater.sh file!
Anyone have the updater? would you mind posting it or pointing me to it? the only feed I could find for tosa:
http://linuxtogo.org/mirror/openzaurus.org....4/images/tosa/ (http://linuxtogo.org/mirror/openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/images/tosa/)
had an updater.sd.md5, but no actual file
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You could try the image from [a href=\"http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc2/]http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc2/[/url]
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figures.... the image I'm looking for minutes after I dl the other stuff
well --back to the dowloads
thanks
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nice splash screen
snappy-faster than i remembered
flashing wifi (weak signal here atm)
is this 2.4 or 2.6?
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nice splash screen
snappy-faster than i remembered
flashing wifi (weak signal here atm)
is this 2.4 or 2.6?
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It should be 2.6, but a 'uname -a' in the console should give you the correct answer
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nice splash screen
snappy-faster than i remembered
flashing wifi (weak signal here atm)
is this 2.4 or 2.6?
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It should be 2.6, but a 'uname -a' in the console should give you the correct answer
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2.6.17. faster. no more orange lines, either.
Networking seems to come up automatically, though I have to write in a few profiles.
definitely a big improvement on the 6000. Thanks
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IT mounted my 4 gig sd!! formatted it and everything (even fat 32). Bravo!
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IT mounted my 4 gig sd!! formatted it and everything (even fat 32). Bravo!
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nice! Does that mean if there was a pdaxrom beta4 for Tosa, it should be able to use the same driver?
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IT mounted my 4 gig sd!! formatted it and everything (even fat 32). Bravo!
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nice! Does that mean if there was a pdaxrom beta4 for Tosa, it should be able to use the same driver?
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they'd pretty much using the same kernel, I think...so a tentative yes?
BUt pdaXrom doesn't go past beta1.... a shame, too --OZ is noticeably faster and smoother with the 2.6 kernel than with the latest tosa 2.4 pdaX or 2.4 OZ
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Ok. 3.5.2 is really nice on the 6k so far. Even though i have 2 z's it is heartwarming to see the 6k kept up to date-its a marvellous box and with an up-to-date linux is still way better than most handhelds released this year
The next question is---- is there an Angstrom release for the 6k (w/ eabi, n ot that I'd immediately have a use for eabi, It just seems sensible)?
at any rate, I think I'll give e17 a spin on the 6000 this week
ps - meant to say (above) 2.6 was noticeably faster than any of the availble 2.4 systems on the 6k as far as I can tell. fixed it.
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The next question is---- is there an Angstrom release for the 6k (w/ eabi, n ot that I'd immediately have a use for eabi, It just seems sensible)?
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There are testing images for tosa available[1], BUT only bootstrap is working well, dbus doesn't want to start in X[2], rendering X images a bit useless. You could install e17, since that doesn't use dbus, but anything gpe or gnome related does.
Right now angstrom sucks, which is why it hasn't seen a release yet
[1] [a href=\"http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/]http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/[/url]
[2] http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1567 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1567)
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BUt pdaXrom doesn't go past beta1.... a shame, too --OZ is noticeably faster and smoother with the 2.6 kernel than with the latest tosa 2.4 pdaX or 2.4 OZ
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Sounds very impressive. Even though the rom evolution on Tosa is not as fast as its silibings, I feel lagging behind the evolution now (probably because I'm a newbie to linux in general). I barely get my feet wet with pdaXrom beta1 (got about 1/2 of my essential applications and gadgets set-up the way I like them to be... way to go...) I guess I will stay on the pdaXrom beta1 for a while and try to contribute to find bugs.
I would have jumped on OZ if I had known 2.6kernel OZ worked so well. I will check OZ once I crashes my pdaXrom set-up
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The next question is---- is there an Angstrom release for the 6k (w/ eabi, n ot that I'd immediately have a use for eabi, It just seems sensible)?
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There are testing images for tosa available[1], BUT only bootstrap is working well, dbus doesn't want to start in X[2], rendering X images a bit useless. You could install e17, since that doesn't use dbus, but anything gpe or gnome related does.
Right now angstrom sucks, which is why it hasn't seen a release yet
[1] [a href=\"http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/]http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/[/url]
[2] http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1567 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1567)
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Thanks, but since I tend to pissy about that sort of thing, I'll wait for a relase
maybe I'll spend some time trying to get 3.5.4.1 on sd on my 3100, or something equally perverse.
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Opie works nicely. The wireless stuff is working fine. Thanks!
I have a very useable system on my internal flash. Now, I'd like to be able to ALTBOOT to GPE as an "installed system on my 1gig SD card.
I read the ALTBOOT FAQ.
It talks about using tarballs, and mentions making an installed system--says it's like using a tarball. (not helpful at this point- no current tarballs )
There does not appear to be a tarball (I can't find one) of any OZ for 3.5.4.2 for the 6000.
How do I, for example, make an installed GPE 3.5.4.2 system for my 6000 on the SD card so that I can keep opie installed on internal flash and altboot to a complete GPE system on the sd?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Had a question on firefox on pocketworkstation , i installed it from within debian, it installed fine
but when i try to start it it never starts up, even after a minute as I have seen in some posts, when I try to run form command line there are no error messages
I am using a 64MB swap, do I need to increase it,
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thats enough swap.
have you tried meanies" XQT stuff? my guess is that it has to do with dependencies
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thats enough swap.
have you tried meanies" XQT stuff? my guess is that it has to do with dependencies
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I just used the basic x/qt packages pointed to by Klaus Weidner not the whoe x/qt jumbo pack, but I installed firefox from debian , would it take care of the dependencies ?
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It should. It seems to work pretty well from what has been posted here (and my experience of pdaxqtrom. Firefox is much faster in pdaXrom or OZ/GPE, though, due to softloat in those systems
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IT mounted my 4 gig sd!! formatted it and everything (even fat 32). Bravo!
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confirmed. Brand: Connect3D (likely non-SDHC) 4GB, format: factory fat32
despite some errors in dmesg
end_request:I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 23880
Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0pl, logical block 15688
lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0pl
mmcblk0: error 1 sending read/write command
end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 8193
Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0pl, logical block 1
lost page write due to I/O error on mmcblk0pl
tc6393-nand: mmc0: 1234 [B]SD04G 4018176KiB[/B]
mmcblk0: pl
FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0.
VFS: Can't find a valid ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0.
VFS: Can't find a valid ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0.
FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
VFS: Can't find a valid ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0.
The card automatically mounted on OZ/GPE as
/dev/mmcblk0pl on /media/mmcblk0pl type vfat (rw,sync,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,code page=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1)
adf: do you get the same mount point, which sounds a little strange to me? other smaller SD cards mounts at /mnt/card or /media/card fine.
Edit:
well, i took it back. Seems all vfat sd cards are mounted to /media/mmcblk0pl
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That must be specific to your ROM?
My vfat SD card on Sharp ROM is on /dev/mmcda1, just checked.
Curious thing is I can write to vfat cards fine, but have to use sudo to write to my ext2 cards on Tosa, no matter what I set the permissions to IIRC. Oh well.
sdjf
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You have to be kidding me! You're replying to a posted question from Jan of last year..... Right!?!?
Of course, I'm not to smart to post on a dead board either
looking for tosa life 8 August 2008
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That must be specific to your ROM?
My vfat SD card on Sharp ROM is on /dev/mmcda1, just checked.
Curious thing is I can write to vfat cards fine, but have to use sudo to write to my ext2 cards on Tosa, no matter what I set the permissions to IIRC. Oh well.
sdjf
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