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Everything Else => Zaurus Distro Support and Discussion => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Angstrom & OpenZaurus => Topic started by: sylpil on January 15, 2006, 05:34:17 am
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Hello, All,
Sorry for french (oui je ne me suis toujours pas mis à l'anglais !)
Paul Guyot lors de la conférence Mondiale Newton qui se déroule en ce moment aux États-Unis, vient de présenter la nouvelle version d'Einstein sur ZARUS 5500.
[img]http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/Einstein/2006-01-14_1649-30_1123.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
[img]http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/Einstein/2006-01-14_1652-56_1127.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
Photos © Adam Tow 2006
Visitez son site : http://www.tow.com/2006/01/14/wwnc-2006/ (http://www.tow.com/2006/01/14/wwnc-2006/)
L'émulateur (qui n'est pas un émulateur !) est disponible sur le site de Paul Guyot :
Site de Paul Guyot - EINSTEIN (http://www.kallisys.com/newton/einstein/)
Merci de la tester sur vos configurations de de donner vos impressions :-)
(Comme toujours merci de traduire :-)
Sylvain Pilet
http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/ (http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/)
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I assume it is clear what this post is about. An emulator (more or less) of the Apple Newton OS running on a Zaurus. You can try to dowload the software from the link on the above post but note that this is on Slashdot now so the server might be slow. It is not clear that one needs OZ, though. You need a xserver so it might run on pdaXrom or even X/Qt, i don't know. One thing that you do need and they don't provide is a ROM image from a late model Newton. I only have an early model one, so I am out of luck. These images are apparently nowhere to be found on the net. Does Apple really care if you dump a ROM image and make it avaliable?
Felipe
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It is not clear that one needs OZ, though. You need a xserver so it might run on pdaXrom or even X/Qt, i don't know. [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=111043\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
it won't work on pdaX or sharprom due to softfloat differences.
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We do not want to put the ROM on the WEB, because we do not want a problem with APPLE!
But if you seek well on the site of the http://www.unna.org/ (http://www.unna.org/)[a href=\'http://www.unna.org/\' target=\'_blank\'][/a], it may be that you find that!
it won't work on pdaX or sharprom due to softfloat differences.
Only possible on OZ ?
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You can try to dowload the software from the link on the above post but note that this is on Slashdot now so the server might be slow. It is not clear that one needs [div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=111043\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I put up a mirror on www.zaurus.org.uk downloads page if that helps.
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lalala
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Well the x11 implementation I've been using works fine - OZ/GPE. At least as good as pdaX the last time I tried it, and it has the added benefit of being more up to date (2.6.x kernel, etc.) and has a useful version of ipkg onboard.
Obviously this is just my opinion
Time to try out the Einstein emulator!
Si
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Je n'arrive pas à installer Einstein sur mon SL-C3100 (OZ3.5.4RC).
L'un de vous à réussit ?
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Oops ! in english :-)
I do not manage to install Einstein on my SL-C3100 (OZ3.5.4RC).
Does one of you with succeed?
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Newbie question !
In GPE, how does one make to return in line of command?
Thanks
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I am trying to run einstein on an ipaq 3600 running Familiar/GPE. First it complained that that libstc++ was not installed and, after a few tries, I got it to install with a -force-depends. Then it complained that the clock wasn't set (why should it fucking care?) so I set the clock. Now it complains that my ROM image is not 8MB long. Now I found, following some hints, this file called "Senior CirrusNoDebug image" which is 8.9MB long and I thought this was it. Any help there?
Update: I cut the first 8MB of that file using dd and now it complains about error reading ROM image, so it's not just wrong size.
Sylvain, I am not sure I understand your question, but is the return key not working?
Felipe
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Thank you to describe all the details of your procedure of installation,
to make some benefit all.
You speak well about the ROM Newton?
Execute Einstein under GPE?
My question is how to leave environement the GPE on version 3.5.4-RC, because the "logout" return on the window of "login", how to return in only shell?
Thanks
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My question is how to leave environement the GPE on version 3.5.4-RC, because the "logout" return on the window of "login", how to return in only shell?
I think you should be able to run '/etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop'
Otherwise ctrl-alt-backspace a few times will kill the x-server and drop to a login prompt (assuming you have those keys mapped - the c7x0 machines do).
Now it complains that my ROM image is not 8MB long. Now I found, following some hints, this file called "Senior CirrusNoDebug image" which is 8.9MB long and I thought this was it. Any help there?
Where did you get your ROM image from?
Si
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Hello all,
I see Paul Guyot this Thursday, we go test Einstein on the SL-C3100,
I will keep you informed of the evolution.
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Where did you get your ROM image from?
My ROM comes from my Newton 2100! (I have all the models of Newton it is easier!)
Bye
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Sorry, I meant that one for jfv.
I seem to remember something similar with Ti emulators - there were two types of ROM image, those which had any trailing space stripped out, and those which were simply a complete copy of the ROM partition, empty space and all.
I wonder if this is the issue.
Si
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Thank you to describe all the details of your procedure of installation,
to make some benefit all.
Execute Einstein under GPE?
Thanks
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=111247\")
I am not sure I understand you question. If I get it wrong please repeat it in French. I understand French but can't write it.
There is nothing to install. Einstein is a compiled binary. You need to put all the files that come with the tarball on a CF card (or on your Zaurus if you have enough space) and run it from the command line. There is a shell script that comes in the tarball that list the commands to run. The first line of the script starts the X server. As I am running GPE I already have a running Xserver so I went straight to the second line of the script and that where I am at right now.
I don't know what you mean by "You speak well about the ROM Newton?"
I thought the ROMs were here:
[a href=\"http://www.unna.org/view.php?/development/Debugger_Images]http://www.unna.org/view.php?/development/Debugger_Images[/url] but I can't make it work so I don't know.
Felipe
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Bump, bump. Anybody had any luck? If there is someone who is willing to share a ROM but is shy about doing it in public, please PM me.
Felipe
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Here is an update of my efforts. I got a ROM from somebody who doesn't wish to share it. I tried to use it without success. Einstein launches and gives the an error message:
"Error while reading ROM file '/mnt/cf/717006'"
The good news is that I have a method that might give a ROM for others to try. Go to the link to unna in my message above and download "MP2x00 US.sit" and unpack it. Inside you'll find a file named "Senior CirrusNoDebug image". The ROM is inside it but you need to cut a bit from the beginning and a bit from the end to get at it. The following commands seem to do it. First rename the "Senior..." to senior. Then:
dd if=senior of=temp bs=16 skip=8
dd if=temp of=717006 count=16384
You should have a file named 717006 of exactly 8MB. It looks very similar to the ROM I got. It gives the same error...
Maybe somebody will have better luck.
Felipe
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Einstein Run on :
- Nokia 770 !
[img]http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/News/images/18-01-2006-Nokia770-01.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]Nokia770 by Andy Diller (http://homepage.mac.com/dillera/PhotoAlbum6.html)
- PepperPad !
[img]http://www.pilet.net/Message_Pad/News/images/19-01-2006-PepperPad-01.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]PepperPad by Victor Rehorst (http://chuma.org/photos/pepper-einstein/)
In the futur Einstein for all PDA and Phones ! ;-)
Good work Paul !