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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: macwiz on February 16, 2006, 03:21:28 pm

Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: macwiz on February 16, 2006, 03:21:28 pm
I hope this isn't something to do with the screen flickering mentioned in pinned thread, or I wouldn't have started this thread. My problem is just that on wake-up any open applications crash while they flash on and off the screen. Dillo seems to survive, but big apps like Firefox crash, or at best get backgrounded.

I am  presently running the beta but might go back to an earlier rc if no one can help. I am not convinced it is the beta though, as I saw it happen with rc12 before I reflashed.

Thanks!
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Reaper on February 16, 2006, 04:11:31 pm
Yes, I have the same problem with my c3k/beta1.1.0, but I thoght this was only c3k pdaX problem, because my old c760 did this very rarely, at least with >= RC10. It goes off when it wants (almost independent on light&power settings), and so far I've found no reliable way to fix it. And when I try to turn it back on, it very often does nothing.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: stuffman on February 16, 2006, 09:46:23 pm
My c860 occasionally experiences similar problems, especially if I suspend the Zaurus while it is running a program either stored on my microdrive or accessing data on my microdrive (a Seagate ST1 from a Rio Carbon), but not if I'm using a traditional flash CF card. I guess it doesn't get re-initiallized propperly or something (as it has to spin up and stuff). My applications just die outright- are yours still there (just minimized) or do they go away entirely too?
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Reaper on February 17, 2006, 01:41:27 am
Yes, then it seems to be the problem is in Microdrive mostly. I'm looking forward to collecting $400 and replacing it with 8 Gb flash card...  
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: macwiz on February 17, 2006, 05:36:21 pm
No nothing to do with having a microdrive in my case (damn).

I think I am going to do a total reflash. I remember having problems a long time ago with when waking up from suspend resulted in a sort of freeze where I could move the cursor but nothing would respond to being clicked and the keyboard did not respond. Reflashing did not help until I did a reflash changing the size of partitions. Perhaps I will try that again.

Seems to me a lot of problems with the Z revolve around coming out of sleep.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Antikx on February 18, 2006, 11:58:32 am
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No nothing to do with having a microdrive in my case (damn).

I think I am going to do a total reflash. I remember having problems a long time ago with when waking up from suspend resulted in a sort of freeze where I could move the cursor but nothing would respond to being clicked and the keyboard did not respond. Reflashing did not help until I did a reflash changing the size of partitions. Perhaps I will try that again.

Seems to me a lot of problems with the Z revolve around coming out of sleep.
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For some reason I just started having this problem over the last week.
I may have to re-flash too.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Antikx on March 17, 2006, 08:51:50 am
Has anyone found a fix for this? And by this I mean: "waking up from suspend resulted in a sort of freeze where I could move the cursor but nothing would respond to being clicked and the keyboard did not respond"

Mine has started to do it when I close and open the lid sometimes.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Antikx on March 17, 2006, 02:52:13 pm
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Has anyone found a fix for this? And by this I mean: "waking up from suspend resulted in a sort of freeze where I could move the cursor but nothing would respond to being clicked and the keyboard did not respond"

Mine has started to do it when I close and open the lid sometimes.
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...and sorry, just to confirm...
the suspend/wakeup issues are not tied to the Window Manager (Matchbox), right? It's an issue with the pdaXrom kernel? or kernel module?

I've started not turning my Zaurus off until night time. I think I may keep that habit even after I reflash. Atleast until the problem gets fixed.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Hrw on March 17, 2006, 04:10:57 pm
Antikx: sounds like problem with usbdcore modules reloading on suspend/resume - nothing you can do about it under 2.4-crapix I think..
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: miskinis on March 17, 2006, 06:37:43 pm
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Antikx: sounds like problem with usbdcore modules reloading on suspend/resume - nothing you can do about it under 2.4-crapix I think..
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Hi,

If the 2.4.x kernel is to blame (in general), why would the Sharp ROM function correctly
in this regard?

I was going to also ask if we could just move all the USB-related modules out of the
way, since I will not be using USB until my Z host cable arrives.  But then I remembered
that I read that the SL-6000 builtin WIFI is USB-based.

Anyway, it will be nice when this issue is identified ad resolved...  John
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: macwiz on March 18, 2006, 07:21:45 pm
I sure hope there is a solution... it's driving me nuts.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: scheck.r on March 20, 2006, 04:54:14 pm
I have the same problem using a microdrive. I didn't test very much without though. I have to reboot.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Hrw on March 20, 2006, 05:44:55 pm
miskins: I always suspected that Sharp released fscked kernel source - how you will not try to build it it has to suxx...

Anyway problem does not exist under 2.6 kernel
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Antikx on March 20, 2006, 09:10:55 pm
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I sure hope there is a solution... it's driving me nuts.
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Me too.
pdaxrom is really great, but this is a kill joy.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Meanie on March 20, 2006, 09:58:05 pm
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I sure hope there is a solution... it's driving me nuts.
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Me too.
pdaxrom is really great, but this is a kill joy.
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I never had problems resuming the Z except when it fell asleep while xmms was still running.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: omro on March 20, 2006, 10:10:34 pm
My 256mb San Disk CF card keeps unmounting itself when I come out of suspend.

I can't find my 512 card to see if the same thing happens with that.
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: sds on March 20, 2006, 10:20:38 pm
Up until now I have no problems suspending and resuming from the menu on Beta2, both under root as well as under a normal user account (which I set up accordingly). This is when using even two pcmcia devices on my 3100 -- the internal microdrive and a CF Ethernet card. It should be noted though that all my libs/applications are installed on the flash only.
I was expecting this as the Cacko patches have been applied to the kernel in Beta2.

I think the freeze in X in the previous RCs and Betas was due to problems with setting/reading the correct time upon suspend/resume. Make sure you have set the hardware clock to UTC and the system clock to the hardware clock as I have explained  elsewhere in the pdaXrom forum (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16273&view=findpost&p=105429) (just use hwclock instead of sethwclock).
Title: Wake Up Gone Flakey
Post by: Antikx on April 03, 2006, 08:56:45 am
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Up until now I have no problems suspending and resuming from the menu on Beta2, both under root as well as under a normal user account (which I set up accordingly). This is when using even two pcmcia devices on my 3100 -- the internal microdrive and a CF Ethernet card. It should be noted though that all my libs/applications are installed on the flash only.
I was expecting this as the Cacko patches have been applied to the kernel in Beta2.

I think the freeze in X in the previous RCs and Betas was due to problems with setting/reading the correct time upon suspend/resume. Make sure you have set the hardware clock to UTC and the system clock to the hardware clock as I have explained  elsewhere in the pdaXrom forum (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16273&view=findpost&p=105429) (just use hwclock instead of sethwclock).
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Sds: Thanks for posting the link to the workaround. It is working un-nervingly well.
I had done something very similar on my own, but for some reason, untill I setup my timezones/hwclock/sysclock exactly like the way you have done I kept getting the freezes. Thanks again. You have made my Zaurus usage enjoyable again.