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Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 04, 2006, 07:38:44 pm
A long planned extension to zbedic is finally there. Now dictionaries can be edited in zbedic.  To enjoy this new feature, dowload the latest version from http://bedic.sourceforge.net/index.html (http://bedic.sourceforge.net/index.html).

Because there were major changes, this version is currently beta (marked rc1). If you find any problems, report them using the Bugs tracker at the SF project page.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: mandjab on March 05, 2006, 05:54:23 pm
ok i'm going to test.

Thank's
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: freizugheit on March 08, 2006, 04:42:46 am
Try installing on my SL-5600 and prompted that some dependents needed to be installed as well.

What should I install as it does not work after clicking the Zbedic icon?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: freizugheit on March 08, 2006, 04:54:24 am
Oops, I forgot to download and install sqlite (http://www.elsix.org/index.php?w=project&p=sqlite3)
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: freizugheit on March 08, 2006, 05:28:17 am
The following dictionaries works well:

en-wikipedia_0.9.5_20050209.dic.dz
deen-0.9.0.dic.dz
zhen-0.9.0.dic.dz
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 08, 2006, 11:34:03 am
This is great news!  Thank you so much.  I will test this tonight.

The next thing would be to bring ZBedic to a regular Linux box.  I know you are busy but maybe there is somebody else who could do it.  I would give a donation to such a person

If somebody is interested in Ukrainian, Russian and some other dictionaries send me a pm.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: xamindar on March 08, 2006, 01:25:33 pm
what was the difference between the static and normal version?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: pungipungi on March 08, 2006, 04:02:11 pm
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The next thing would be to bring ZBedic to a regular Linux box.  I know you are busy but maybe there is somebody else who could do it.  I would give a donation to such a person
Some times ago I started to work on a fltk version for the agenda vr3. This runs also on the c1000 and on the 5500G and on the desktop. You can find a version for the c1000 on
http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives (http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives)

The current version is experimental but it includes one additional feature:
- loading a text and clicking at the words gives the best fitting translation

Additionally it's prepared for storing results of vocabulary test in an extra file (for learning).

I've added a very fast compiled version (which does use fltk instead of fltk-utf8, which is the better choice)

Andreas
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 08, 2006, 04:15:23 pm
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what was the difference between the static and normal version?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117605\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

From the ZBedic website:

Starting with version 1.0, zbedic depends on the sqlite3 library. The best is to install sqlite3 library first and then zbedic package without "_static" label. In case there are problems installing sqlite3, there is a statically linked version of zbedic (the package with "_static" in its name). Note however that the static version is bigger, takes more memory and takes longer to launch the application.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 09, 2006, 08:58:07 am
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Some times ago I started to work on a fltk version for the agenda vr3. This runs also on the c1000 and on the 5500G and on the desktop. You can find a version for the c1000 on
http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives (http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives)

...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117623\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

This looks very interesting. What zbedic functionality is implemented and what is missing? Do you plan to continue the development?

Rafal
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 09, 2006, 12:03:16 pm
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Some times ago I started to work on a fltk version for the agenda vr3. This runs also on the c1000 and on the 5500G and on the desktop. You can find a version for the c1000 on
http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives (http://members.cheese.at/woody/zaurus/c1000-archives)

...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117623\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

This looks very interesting. What zbedic functionality is implemented and what is missing? Do you plan to continue the development?

Rafal
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=117757\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Where do I find fltk library to try this prog?  It says it can't find libfltk-utf8.so.1.1

Is this for pdaXrom, not for Sharp-based Roms?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 09, 2006, 12:16:56 pm
I tried the new ZBedic.  It works well.  I like that it shows the dictionary info when there is no word entered in the search area.

It would take some time to get accustomed to the new functions.  I will play with sintax and see how it works.  So far so good.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 11, 2006, 08:33:07 pm
I think the right portion of the screen is clipped a little.  I don't see the scrolling bar and sometimes words are clipped.  Am I doing something wrong?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 12, 2006, 05:54:45 am
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I think the right portion of the screen is clipped a little.  I don't see the scrolling bar and sometimes words are clipped.  Am I doing something wrong?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118097\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Could you send a screenshot or a digital photo? This happens when editing or viewing entries?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: pungipungi on March 12, 2006, 09:58:51 am
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This looks very interesting. What zbedic functionality is implemented and what is missing? Do you plan to continue the development?

In principle it was thought for gpe on the sl5500 when no qt is available in parallel.

Actually I used it to implement an additional feature for translation support. You can load a text point on a word and get the best fit from the directory.
As second enhancement I plan to add support for learning vocabulary. Where you can store if you already know this word or not.
Currently working:
- checked with different dictionaries
- also checked with wikipaedia including following the links stored inside to show other subjects
- you can switch to another dic
- normal scrolling through the dic
- for output the fltk html widget is used which works in most of the cases as expected
- fltk-utf8 gives the possibility to show foreign characters
(I have used the standard pdaXrom feeds to get fltk-utf8:
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/) (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/1.1.0beta1/Zaurus-C1000-C3100/feed/))
but it worked also on the SL5500G with the normal fltk libs.
- properties are already loaded but most of the dics don't have properties
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 14, 2006, 12:29:24 pm
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I think the right portion of the screen is clipped a little.  I don't see the scrolling bar and sometimes words are clipped.  Am I doing something wrong?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118097\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Could you send a screenshot or a digital photo? This happens when editing or viewing entries?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118156\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Here is a screenshot.  Notice that there is no scroll bar in the right window although the text does not fit on the screen.  In the previous version if I remember correctly there was a scroll bar.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: Hrw on March 14, 2006, 02:56:14 pm
Can source of 1.0rc1 be released as tarball? I will try to make package for OpenZaurus/Familiar distros.

I can fetch from CVS but sourceforge CVS servers are nightmare... to much timeouts etc..
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 14, 2006, 04:48:47 pm
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Can source of 1.0rc1 be released as tarball? I will try to make package for OpenZaurus/Familiar distros.

I can fetch from CVS but sourceforge CVS servers are nightmare... to much timeouts etc..
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118561\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Since they upgraded the CVS servers, I have not had any problems. But if you cannot get the sources from the CVS, I can prepare a tarbar.

BTW. Thanks for taking care of OZ releases.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: Hrw on March 15, 2006, 02:07:51 am
rafm: anonymous access to cvs.sf.net was too often a problem so I want to avoid it as much as possible.

And there is no 1.0rc1 tag on cvs so could be hard to get just that release..
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 15, 2006, 04:35:46 am
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rafm: anonymous access to cvs.sf.net was too often a problem so I want to avoid it as much as possible.

And there is no 1.0rc1 tag on cvs so could be hard to get just that release..
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118636\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'll create a tarbal for the final release with all problems fixed (the current is still beta).

There is a tag "r_1_0_rc1" for the current release in the CVS. See for example "cvs log Makefile" for the list of all tags.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: Hrw on March 15, 2006, 05:19:19 am
ops. so I missed that tag before - will try to fetch/build it later.

Hmm.. found - libbedic has 1.0rc1, zbedic does not.

will rebuild both.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: Hrw on March 15, 2006, 09:18:53 am
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I made it :)

Info about patches:
- version.patch change VERSION -> 1.0rc1 in src/settings.cpp
- opie-icons.patch make zbedic use back/forward icons from OPIE instead of own ones (so they are proper size)

Not tested on device yet.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 15, 2006, 07:58:07 pm
How do I convert .edic files into regular .dic files that can be processed by mkbedic?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 16, 2006, 05:24:44 am
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How do I convert .edic files into regular .dic files that can be processed by mkbedic?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=118771\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Currently it is not possible. I plan to add export option in 1.1.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on March 21, 2006, 04:17:47 pm
Rafm, could you update us on your plans?  You have recently indicated that you are busy with other projects.  So, if we people donate for a specific feature under the feature-donation mechanism, will you find time to implement the requested feature?

On a separate note, is it technically possible (and if so how hard is it to implement) to allow zbedic search not only in the list of word entries but also in the body of the translation.  I know that there is some sort of indexing going on and that the search in the body of the entries would require totally new approach.  But can it be done without rewriting the whole Zbedic code?  This feature would make the existing dictionaries even more useful.  If this is possible can somebody do it?  Would financial incentive help (if so, how much)?
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 22, 2006, 10:41:00 am
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Rafm, could you update us on your plans?  You have recently indicated that you are busy with other projects.  So, if we people donate for a specific feature under the feature-donation mechanism, will you find time to implement the requested feature?

I will update the FDDD web page (http://bedic.sourceforge.net/fddd.html) in a few days and remove all those thigs that I cannot promise to do because of the limited time I can spend programming zbedic.

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On a separate note, is it technically possible (and if so how hard is it to implement) to allow zbedic search not only in the list of word entries but also in the body of the translation.  I know that there is some sort of indexing going on and that the search in the body of the entries would require totally new approach.  But can it be done without rewriting the whole Zbedic code?  This feature would make the existing dictionaries even more useful.  If this is possible can somebody do it?  Would financial incentive help (if so, how much)?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=119685\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Searching body of translations would require indexing dictionaries. Exhaustive search over all entries would be to slow for several magabyte dictionaries. The new zbedic that already makes use of sqlite has all necessary backend to add such indexing.  I would love to implement it, but I am affraid that I will not find enough time to do this. If anyone would be interested to invest some time in programming full text search, I can give him some hints but that is all I can do right now.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 25, 2006, 06:09:33 pm
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I think the right portion of the screen is clipped a little.  I don't see the scrolling bar and sometimes words are clipped. 
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=118097\")

I fixed this problem in the final release 1.0. Check the zbedic [a href=\"http://bedic.sourceforge.net/]web page[/url].
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: Hrw on March 28, 2006, 09:54:46 am
rafm: when source tarballs? Fetching from sf.net mirrors is always preferred over fetching from CVS..
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: rafm on March 29, 2006, 01:42:32 am
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rafm: when source tarballs? Fetching from sf.net mirrors is always preferred over fetching from CVS..
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=120686\")

Ready!

[a href=\"http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bedic/zbedic_1.0-0.tgz?download]http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bedic/z...-0.tgz?download[/url]
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bedic/l...-0.tgz?download (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bedic/libbedic_1.0-0.tgz?download)
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: kurochka on April 04, 2006, 11:21:12 am
Great news!  Zbedic is coming to a regular Linux box near you!

I understand that rafm has started porting zbedic to a regular linux.  See http://bedic.sourceforge.net/ (http://bedic.sourceforge.net/)

Thanks, rafm.
Title: New Release Of Zbedic - 1.0.rc1
Post by: xjqian on April 06, 2006, 08:46:28 am
worked great on my 6k.

Btw, is it possible to use flite with zbedic?