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Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: bluedevils on March 09, 2006, 09:57:51 am
theregister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/08/origami_umpc_clunker/)

it looks like it will be *at least* another year before they threaten our pdas.  It's bigger (not pocketable), heavier (2lb), longer to turn on and 2 hour run time.  If I'm going to napsack it, I'm going to bring an ultra portable notebook that has more resolution, more process speed and longer battery life instead of the UMPC.
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: zmiq2 on March 09, 2006, 10:14:45 am
I think the nokia 770 is the zaurus successor, as soon as they release a keyboard-attached version.

The unveiled UMPC don't offer nothing new to the already existing oqo, sony, motion ls800, and fujitsu 1510, which I think are even superior and already in stores.

Uhm... another dissapointement after the 3200 ....
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: gr8ful on March 09, 2006, 10:15:35 am
It is a little on the large size for my taste as well and the battery life is disappointing.  If they reach their target of a pocket-sized device running XP at a $500-$700 price point, they will have a run-a-way winner.

If there is a decent demand for the first devices, I think you will see many more models hit the market which will drive down the price and will likely produce some very innovative devices.
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: rokugo on March 09, 2006, 10:47:06 am
I wonder who's responsible for this monstrosity:

www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/08/tablet_with_thumboard.jpg


     
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: bluedevils on March 09, 2006, 10:53:44 am
The potential is definitely there.

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Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: zmiq2 on March 09, 2006, 11:22:47 am
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The potential is definitely there.

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On this note on Feb 14th,

[a href=\"http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/14/nokias-got-770-followups-in-the-works/]http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/14/nokias-...s-in-the-works/[/url]

they mention that nokia is already working on it. I'm just waiting ....

BTW, congratulations for your soon to be 1,000th post bluedevils !!
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: bluedevils on March 09, 2006, 11:48:30 am
Thanks.  It would have happened alot sooned except I didn't really join this forum (was a guest most of the time) until the official sharp forum died.  I can't wait to see nokia's followup.
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: BarryW on March 09, 2006, 04:11:31 pm
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It is a little on the large size for my taste as well and the battery life is disappointing.  If they reach their target of a pocket-sized device running XP at a $500-$700 price point, they will have a run-a-way winner.

If there is a decent demand for the first devices, I think you will see many more models hit the market which will drive down the price and will likely produce some very innovative devices.
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I used to carry a Newton around, they are mostly the same size.  It's not really that bad.  It will fit in my inside jacket pocket.  All my pants have cargo pockets as well, so it would fit there too.  Think I'd wait for the second gen ones though, let them work the biggest bugs out.  It's windows, so they will never work out all the bugs....  
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: gr8ful on April 12, 2006, 12:42:41 pm
Yet another UMPC entry, but this one is a bit smaller and has a display that slides up to reveal a keyboard.  Kind of an oversized Sidekick hiptop device.

Promising!

http://www.i4u.com/article5428.html (http://www.i4u.com/article5428.html)
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: uth on April 12, 2006, 01:04:39 pm
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I think the nokia 770 is the zaurus successor, as soon as they release a keyboard-attached version.

And a faster processor, and maybe use a less obscure flashcard format..
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: adf on April 12, 2006, 03:52:58 pm
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I think the nokia 770 is the zaurus successor, as soon as they release a keyboard-attached version.

And a faster processor, and maybe use a less obscure flashcard format..
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maybe cf?

and more ram and more flash
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: Dante on April 13, 2006, 02:02:56 am
The FlipStart looked very nice. Although it was announced to be released in 2004...
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: Ragnorok on April 13, 2006, 12:02:45 pm
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theregister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/08/origami_umpc_clunker/)
it looks like it will be *at least* another year before they threaten our pdas. ...(snip)...
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- It runs winbloze ... it can't be made attractive unless:

A) It's significantly more hardware than a Zaurus
B) It runs at least as long as a Zaurus
C) It has a keyboard and expansion like a Zaurus
D) That piss-ant "operating system" can be replaced with Linux, so it's like a Zaurus

- In short, this "UMPC" will never threaten a Zaurus.  Lord Gates doesn't know how to do that, and I pray to <idnoc> that it never will.
- Nokia, on the other hand, is certainly on the right track!  (cheshire grin)
Title: First Impression Of Umpcs And Oragmi
Post by: bluedevils on April 13, 2006, 12:12:04 pm
the umpc *is* more hardware (the q1 has 40GB hard drive, faster proc, BT, wifi and ether built in, bigger screen and so on...).  It is also bigger than a zaurus.  The main things they have to address are battery life. price and an external keyboard.  It is running x86 cpus so linux porting should be relatively trivial.  I saw a post (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18308&st=0&p=119033�entry119033) where a manufacturer waiting for the MS oragami OS, decided to put a version of linux on it while prototyping.

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A) It's significantly more hardware than a Zaurus
 It runs at least as long as a Zaurus
C) It has a keyboard and expansion like a Zaurus
D) That piss-ant "operating system" can be replaced with Linux, so it's like a Zaurus
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