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Everything Else => Zaurus Distro Support and Discussion => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Angstrom & OpenZaurus => Topic started by: Radiance on March 25, 2006, 07:43:39 pm
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Dear all,
I've been quite early with buying a zaurus 6000 which was a few years ago. I used it a bit in all that time but since the releases up to 3.5.4 it was not suitable for serious use. The reason as many know is that there are too many things which need to be fixed and workarounds to be applied. So i'd be spending more time on working around bugs then really feeling that i can rely on the 6000 when really using it as it was meant to be.
The hardware is excellent, just the software needs to be stable. I just tried release 3.5.4 and i must say i'm impressed, it's alot better and more stable. Yet there're still are several issue's which are IMPORTANT to be fixed. I'm an unix/linux person, with time i can probably fix a few things myself but i don't have the time for this.
In the past i already donated like 400 $ to speed up a bit the support for the 6000 and making it more stable. I've thought hard, get rid of the zaurus and buy some mininotebook which is still bigger than any zaurus or support ppl who can seriously get things fixed...so i'm going to support some one or more to do the following:
- release 3.5.4 must turn into a stable release, reliable and working at least for the 6000 , this means 3.5.4 must be so stable that ppl can fall back on it when future releases are buggy or for any reason not usable in a serious environment.
- In this topic i will gather what needs to be fixed, who is willing to fix it, when the fix is ready and the amount of $ for that persons bother.
- I invite owners of the 6000 and using/willing to use the 3.5.4 release to report what is NOT working, please provide DETAILS and DOUBLE CHECK before you report it.
Please keep in mind that i will select which fixes are important to fix and those that can wait since like most ppl here i don't have unlimited resources to pay for them all.
This brings me to another issue, if there are ppl who want to contribute in $ then this is welcomed ! The more we can financially support the person(s) who are going to fix issues and turn 3.5.4 in a solid stable release the better ! Please contact me either by email or through this board if you want to contribute and what kind of fix you need.
Ofcourse you're free to do it any other way, but this is my topic and place where i'd like things to be done with deadlines.
I've waited now a few years, but it's about time to get the full power of the 6000 going !
########## CURRENT ISSUES ###########
Remember, this is for the 6000 but fixes might apply also to others.
===>> HIGH PRIORITY ON THE GPE - IMAGE / KERNEL <<===
1. alarm doesn't work when unit is suspended (this is in GPE image)
2. wifi goes crazy when unit is suspended and then unsuspended (many posts about this) (gpe and opie)
3. selection color in gpe is too dark, this was also reported by some one.
More bugs exist and are reported to the bugtrackers, when some one picks up this challenge all the other bugs will be reviewed and shown here.
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### UPDATE 27-03-06 ###
Beside the current work on the current release, i'd like to support also the 2.6 project.
I decided to reward the person who is first to release a stable and fully working 2.6 kernel + GPE image for the 6000 models the amount of 500 $
I would like this to happen within months, not years.
I hope other 6000 owners might jump in and also add extra $ to sponsor this. I will note them in this topic and the amount they want to add on top of the 500 $
Also i decided that the GPE-Image + kernel in this topic are my high priority. Opie doesn't matter for me anymore.
### UPDATE 29-03-06 ###
Thanks to nevarrie (+100 $) the reward for a fully working oz/gpe+2.6 kernel is now: 600 $
### UPDATE 31-03-06 ###
Thanks to jgardia (+200 $) the reward for a fully working oz/gpe+2.6 kernel is now: 800 $
Other help:
xjqian: offer his 6000W to any one who is going to take up this challenge to use it for testing and working out the details. (can miss it for up to 6 months)
### UPDATE 05-04-06 ###
Thanks to undrwater (+100$) the reward for a fully working oz/gpe+2.6 kernel is now: 900 $
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The problem with tosa is that very few people in the OZ team own one.
There just aren't any devs with a tosa right now.
As you said, the device is years old but only recently the Fn+number key combination was fixed.
(I mean, lol, this is a 20-minute job at best)
1. keyboard lockups in 3.5.4 need to be fixed
see bug report here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763)
(this was noticed in OPIE image but if needed please make sure this is also fixed in GPE image)
2. alarm doesn't work when unit is suspended (this is in GPE image, but please fix it for opie too if needed)
3. wifi goes crazy when unit is suspended and then unsuspended (many posts about this) (gpe and opie)
4. selection color in gpe is too dark, this was also reported by some one.
1: This happens on SL-Cxxxx, too when one presses Fn+Shift, but only then.
2: Kernel bug. It's unlikely someone could fix it without having access to the harware
AFAIK, tosa will be moved to kernel 2.6 eventually which could fix this problem
3: There is an easy workaround possible by doing ifdown $wlan with the apm scripts before suspending
and ifup $wlan on resume.
4: This is one of the bugs which would have been fixed ages ago if we had a GPE dev w/ access to a tosa
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Idea of sponsoring fixes sounds interesting - before 3.5.4 I worked on CFXGA card support - got donation from user of such card.
1. Hm.. this has something with a way how qt/e (used by opie) handle keyboard - currently no time to look inside of problem. If it comes also in GPE then it is strange.
2. I will provide kernel with fix which you mentioned on IRC to test - if it will help then I will rebuild tosa/3.5.4 images to give it for users by default.
3. thats probably can be resolved by unloading all usb modules on suspend and loading them on resume - Sharp shown in past that they cannot write kernel stuff in a way which will work with suspend/resume - look for those usbnet problems on 2.4 kernels
4. you mean selection color of icon titles on desktop? it is matchbox bug not gpe (but seen in gpe-image). iirc someone reported that in gpe bugtracker and in matchbox one.
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Idea of sponsoring fixes sounds interesting - before 3.5.4 I worked on CFXGA card support - got donation from user of such card.
1. Hm.. this has something with a way how qt/e (used by opie) handle keyboard - currently no time to look inside of problem. If it comes also in GPE then it is strange.
2. I will provide kernel with fix which you mentioned on IRC to test - if it will help then I will rebuild tosa/3.5.4 images to give it for users by default.
3. thats probably can be resolved by unloading all usb modules on suspend and loading them on resume - Sharp shown in past that they cannot write kernel stuff in a way which will work with suspend/resume - look for those usbnet problems on 2.4 kernels
4. you mean selection color of icon titles on desktop? it is matchbox bug not gpe (but seen in gpe-image). iirc someone reported that in gpe bugtracker and in matchbox one.
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Hi Hrw,
Thanks man, that looks promising. I know you're one of the best who might be able to create serious fixes to get things going !
You can message me on irc or here if you want to test something, discuss details and so on.
There is one burning question i have ... do you think it's worth it to hammer on a 2.4 kernel release OR do you think with a bit more time, it's very possible to release a 2.6 stable kernel + environment for the 6000 ? I really would like either the current release to work OR if there is a chance that a 2.6 kernel can be release in a reasonable time-line then i'd rather support you on that...Let me know what you would like ...
Thanks !!
Radiance
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2.6 is the way to go, even if it takes some more months. 2.4-embedix on tosa has some _inherent_ problems that will come back whenever you use anything but the (ancient) patched sharp versions of software. Look at 2.6 at c7x0, it feels nearly like a new machine.
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2.6 is the way to go, even if it takes some more months. 2.4-embedix on tosa has some _inherent_ problems that will come back whenever you use anything but the (ancient) patched sharp versions of software. Look at 2.6 at c7x0, it feels nearly like a new machine.
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Hi Mickeyl !
My feeling says also to go with 2.6 instead of bothering with 2.4. But ofcourse we need some one who is willing to spend time on getting a 2.6 environment running on the 6000 and most likely if that works fine then for other models it's more easy to get them also in 2.6 running.
So the question is: Who has the skills and time to get the 2.6 up and running for tosa ?
I'm willing to spend my own money to speed up and pay for that persons bother. It would help if others could also join me financially after some one applies to do this.
Greetz,
Radiance
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http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tosa-r47/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tosa-r47/) directory contain kernel with wake-on-alarms patch from OESF forum. Check it.
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http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tosa-r47/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tosa-r47/) directory contain kernel with wake-on-alarms patch from OESF forum. Check it.
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Thanks mate, i just tried it but it didn't work. This time when i unsuspended the unit the alarm didn't even bother to go off. hehe
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Thanks for starting this thread Radiance. And thanks to hrw for trying to build a fix. The only thing that has kept me from giving OZ a real long spin is the lack of working alarms while suspeneded.
If it helps (and it may not so dont consider this a flame or a plug) the pdaxrom guys had the same issue. There was a patch posted to the forums someplace that fixed it.
Todd
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If it helps (and it may not so dont consider this a flame or a plug) the pdaxrom guys had the same issue. There was a patch posted to the forums someplace that fixed it.
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It's not so much a fix as it is a great work around/hack.
You still need to have KO running in the background in order for the alarm to go off.
If a Zaurus's alarm rings when it's suspended does it really make a sound?
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It's not so much a fix as it is a great work around/hack.
no trichmon was talking of a patch to the kernel specific to the 6000, the one that hrw has applied.
Though I remember discussions on some more issues related to the 6000 and power management (something to do with the cradle or something)
So more patches may exists in the kernel used by pdaxrom
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The hardware is excellent, just the software needs to be stable. I just tried release 3.5.4 and i must say i'm impressed, it's alot better and more stable. Yet there're still are several issue's which are IMPORTANT to be fixed. I'm an unix/linux person, with time i can probably fix a few things myself but i don't have the time for this.
I too do not have the time to help fix these problems(I wish I did since i enjoy the hunt). I can help test and I am willing to donate money to the cause. I am willing to add $100 to the pot for a working OZ/GPE with a 2.6 kernel.
I have given up on being able to have my Z sync cleanly with the Exchange server where I currently work so I am back to have a portable handheld computer.
Running e17 is my goal but getting OZ/GPE working with a 2.6 kernel is a good start.
I guess we need to find out who has teh sl6k that are willing to test and work on the creating the list of issues and making sure they are in bugtrackers they need to be in. Since I am not awear of a bugtracker for openzaurus do we need a keep the list here with links to the bug in its respective bugtracking system?
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The hardware is excellent, just the software needs to be stable. I just tried release 3.5.4 and i must say i'm impressed, it's alot better and more stable. Yet there're still are several issue's which are IMPORTANT to be fixed. I'm an unix/linux person, with time i can probably fix a few things myself but i don't have the time for this.
I too do not have the time to help fix these problems(I wish I did since i enjoy the hunt). I can help test and I am willing to donate money to the cause. I am willing to add $100 to the pot for a working OZ/GPE with a 2.6 kernel.
I have given up on being able to have my Z sync cleanly with the Exchange server where I currently work so I am back to have a portable handheld computer.
Running e17 is my goal but getting OZ/GPE working with a 2.6 kernel is a good start.
I guess we need to find out who has teh sl6k that are willing to test and work on the creating the list of issues and making sure they are in bugtrackers they need to be in. Since I am not awear of a bugtracker for openzaurus do we need a keep the list here with links to the bug in its respective bugtracking system?
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Hi nevarrie !
Thanks mate ! I will update the first post of this topic and add 100 $ to that amount for a fully working oz/gpe+2.6 kernel !
Thanks,
Radiance
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I guess we need to find out who has teh sl6k that are willing to test and work on the creating the list of issues and making sure they are in bugtrackers they need to be in. Since I am not awear of a bugtracker for openzaurus do we need a keep the list here with links to the bug in its respective bugtracking system?[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=120915\")
I've got a 6000L and I'm all for improvements. I'm a broke student so I don't have much to give in the way of cash (maybe buy a hacker lunch? ), but I'd be willing to test things in the name of science.
The OZ-related bugtrackers are linked to from here:
[a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/links/]http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/links/[/url]
And in case nobody has seen this, this page describes the current state of 2.6 on tosa:
http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/ (http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/)
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Hi,
I can contribute with another $200. I don't care very much about the alarm, but the keyboard is killing me. Also, it would be very nice if we can have an icon to manage the wifi connection.
Thanks
Jose
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Also, it would be very nice if we can have an icon to manage the wifi connection.
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I most certainly second that. Of all the things that bug me about OZ/GPE on tosa, it's the management of wifi that frustrates me the most. Ideally, nobody should have to drop into a terminal for something as common as bringing up/down an interface. I'd be great to have an icon in the matchbox dock/panel/whatchamacallit that lets you enable/disable, view available networks, connect/disconnect, etc'. GPE-Aerial seems to be designed to do at least some of this, but it's still a long way from usable (unless I'm doing something wrong). Is anybody using aerial on any of the other Zaurii? I don't know if it just needs 6000-specific fixes, or if it's inherently broken.
Anyway, like I said, I'll hop all over a test-release of this stuff and I'll do what I can in the way of bug-hunting.
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I am working on getting my site, http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org (http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org) backup and running. I hope to have the time this weekend to update the List of Issues for GPE page to show what all issue we see as needing to be fixed to have a usable OZ/GPE on Tosa. I will also try to post the list on here too.
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Is anybody using aerial on any of the other Zaurii? I don't know if it just needs 6000-specific fixes, or if it's inherently broken.
I was using it on my C750 iirc. It probably just needs patches (as I think it's designed to work with CF wifi cards).
Patches welcome of course.
If you need and pointers, etc., try asking on #gpe, that way you'll get to talk to the gpe devs.
Si
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I'm trying to get a 6000W this summer. If any of the developer is interested, I'm willing to send my 6000L to one of the developers (for up to 6 months) for testing when I get my 6000W.
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Hi,
I can contribute with another $200. I don't care very much about the alarm, but the keyboard is killing me. Also, it would be very nice if we can have an icon to manage the wifi connection.
Thanks
Jose
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Hi jgardia,
Thanks alot matey ! I'm going to add your $200 to the reward ! All these things need to work and be reliable.
Greetings,
Radiance
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I'm trying to get a 6000W this summer. If any of the developer is interested, I'm willing to send my 6000L to one of the developers (for up to 6 months) for testing when I get my 6000W.
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That would be awesome ! I will update the first topic in case some one decides to pick up this challenge and he might need a 6000.
Thanks !!
Radiance
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I am working on getting my site, http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org (http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org) backup and running. I hope to have the time this weekend to update the List of Issues for GPE page to show what all issue we see as needing to be fixed to have a usable OZ/GPE on Tosa. I will also try to post the list on here too.
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Sounds good buddy, please post the list also in this topic and i will update the first post.
Thanks !
Radiance
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I'm trying to get a 6000W this summer. If any of the developer is interested, I'm willing to send my 6000L to one of the developers (for up to 6 months) for testing when I get my 6000W.
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Radiance, I think he is offering the 6000L, not the 6000W.
Also, I am awaiting feedback on my withdrawal of contributions to Guylhem's rom. His project seems to be abandoned. If I don't hear from him saying his project is still alive, I would like to also contribute to this rom.
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I'm trying to get a 6000W this summer. If any of the developer is interested, I'm willing to send my 6000L to one of the developers (for up to 6 months) for testing when I get my 6000W.
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Radiance, I think he is offering the 6000L, not the 6000W.
Also, I am awaiting feedback on my withdrawal of contributions to Guylhem's rom. His project seems to be abandoned. If I don't hear from him saying his project is still alive, I would like to also contribute to this rom.
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Hiya mate !
Yes i think too. I really hope for the first real stable fully working 2.6 kernel+gpe for the 6000 models. Even if no one of the current developers or visitors can't do it then if the reward amount is high enough i know various professional sources who are able to do it.
So i invite EVERYONE who has a 6000 and wants to use its full power in what is was meant to be then please contribute what you can miss. You don't need to pay it right now, but you word counts.
Thanks !!
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I'm trying to get a 6000W this summer. If any of the developer is interested, I'm willing to send my 6000L to one of the developers (for up to 6 months) for testing when I get my 6000W.
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Radiance, I think he is offering the 6000L, not the 6000W.
Also, I am awaiting feedback on my withdrawal of contributions to Guylhem's rom. His project seems to be abandoned. If I don't hear from him saying his project is still alive, I would like to also contribute to this rom.
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Hiya mate !
Yes i think too. I really hope for the first real stable fully working 2.6 kernel+gpe for the 6000 models. Even if no one of the current developers or visitors can't do it then if the reward amount is high enough i know various professional sources who are able to do it.
So i invite EVERYONE who has a 6000 and wants to use its full power in what is was meant to be then please contribute what you can miss. You don't need to pay it right now, but you word counts.
Thanks !!
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I am using tosa and I am willing to contribute - with a little sum of money, but also with contributions. I am especially interested in using altboot, for I need a good managment of adresses and contacts (there opie is excellent), but also I need a good small computer for writing and so on (with gpe or e). As you can see from my last post in the overall release-thread I didn't manage to use altboot on tosa yet.
So, I am there willing to test and to discuss. Count on me!
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altboot 1.0.6-rc1 for tosa added into upgrades feed
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altboot 1.0.6-rc1 for tosa added into upgrades feed
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Please have a look at the shiny new [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/]Altboot FAQ[/url] for usage instructions.
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altboot 1.0.6-rc1 for tosa added into upgrades feed
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Please have a look at the shiny new [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/]Altboot FAQ[/url] for usage instructions.
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Wow!! Thank you, but faq "not found"
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altboot 1.0.6-rc1 for tosa added into upgrades feed
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Please have a look at the shiny new [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/]Altboot FAQ[/url] for usage instructions.
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Wow!! Thank you, but faq "not found"
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What the hell, checking....
Edit: Appears to be a server problem. Maybe Hrw is working on it (the admin interface had issues, too)
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altboot 1.0.6-rc1 for tosa added into upgrades feed
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=121641\")
Please have a look at the shiny new [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/]Altboot FAQ[/url] for usage instructions.
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Wow!! Thank you, but faq "not found"
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What the hell, checking....
Edit: Appears to be a server problem. Maybe Hrw is working on it (the admin interface had issues, too)
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21:53 < koen> wow
21:54 < koen> hrw|afk: someone fscked the 'howto' section on oz.org
21:54 < hrw|afk> I did
Let's see who wins the hrw vs. wordpress battle
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I won
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What about Opie? (If GPE is running, is it a small matter to get Opie up as well?)
I'd be willing to tip in about $100 assuming:
- Sync with both Windows (Outlook) and Linux(Kontact or Evolution) is viable and relatively simple
I think that's it. OZ is pretty much what I want for my Z.
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What about Opie? (If GPE is running, is it a small matter to get Opie up as well?)
I'd be willing to tip in about $100 assuming:
- Sync with both Windows (Outlook) and Linux(Kontact or Evolution) is viable and relatively simple
I think that's it. OZ is pretty much what I want for my Z.
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Thanks undrwater !
That will also be taken in to work.
I updated the first post with the new reward amount.
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Haven't heard anything out of this topic for a while. What's the status of the bounty? Any takers? Nine hundred bucks is a good chunk of change.
***BUMP***
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vorondil28: Dirk Opfer is Tosa/2.6 maintainer and iirc he know about that thread.
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vorondil28: Dirk Opfer is Tosa/2.6 maintainer and iirc he know about that thread.
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Ah, I gotcha. Good to know. So he's the guy in charge of this ([a href=\"http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/]http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/[/url]) page, right?
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yes
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Any chance someone with oe setup can build and post a test image of the 2.6 kernel? I would but i dont have a machine to build on at the moment.
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Hey trichmon,
i build a 2.6 tosa image to test some things out. But only bootstrap works "probably".
The touchscreen (in GPE or OZ) isn't working correct for me (i don't know if it should?) and suspend and resume doesn't work either.
So you won't be happy with an image. If you really want to try post me a pm, but be sure you will reflash in a hour ;-)
Bedman
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i build a 2.6 tosa image to test some things out. But only bootstrap works "probably".
The touchscreen (in GPE or OZ) isn't working correct for me (i don't know if it should?) and suspend and resume doesn't work either.
Bedman
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Hi Bedman,
sorry I haven't updated the openembedded kernel since a few weeks.
For the touchscreen you need this patch: [a href=\"http://www.do13.de/oz/patches/wm97xx-dig-restore-r0.patch]patch[/url]
Can you do another test? Which gcc version are you using?
Dirk
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Any chance someone with oe setup can build and post a test image of the 2.6 kernel? I would but i dont have a machine to build on at the moment.
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Hey,
I put an actual development snapshot on my website. [a href=\"http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/image/]Image[/url]
This experimental image has some issues:
- The gpe touch calibration on the first startup won't work. So you have to use the keyboad to exit gpe and call ts_calibrate manually
- suspend / resume with loaded ohci-hcd module will crash on suspend
- expansion jacket isn't supported yet
- lot of small issues (keymap need some tweaks, touch is noisy, ...)
- one user reported usb client won't work. I haven't checked this
Dirk
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I put an actual development snapshot on my website. Image (http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/image/)
This experimental image has some issues:
- The gpe touch calibration on the first startup won't work. So you have to use the keyboad to exit gpe and call ts_calibrate manually
- suspend / resume with loaded ohci-hcd module will crash on suspend
- expansion jacket isn't supported yet
- lot of small issues (keymap need some tweaks, touch is noisy, ...)
- one user reported usb client won't work. I haven't checked this
Dirk
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Very impressive. Thanks for posting this.
I have to say it feels like it respnds a lot faster then it did on the 2.4.x kernel(nothing to prove this other then feeling).
I was able to get the touch sreen working by login in and then using hte dpad to get to a root shell and running ts_calibrate.(I was nto sure how to exit gpe)
I have able to suspend and resume, rotate the screen, and start programs form the menu.
So far the keymap has been good for me, only the dpad not rotating with the screen is the only issue I have had after 10 minutes of use.
I will post any issues I find here and on my site.
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hello,
i only tested the image because of the present "drawing bug" (blue/yellow lines)
of the official oz images for tosa. i was a little bit dissapointed as this bug also
appears in the 2.6 kernel. i think this is what dirk calls "noisy". but it is interesting
that it does not appear in rotated mode!
malik
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hello,
i only tested the image because of the present "drawing bug" (blue/yellow lines)
of the official oz images for tosa. i was a little bit dissapointed as this bug also
appears in the 2.6 kernel. i think this is what dirk calls "noisy". but it is interesting
that it does not appear in rotated mode!
malik
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hello malik,
yes the "drawing bug" isn't fixed yet. Sorry I hadn't enough time to look into this.
The touchscreen is noisy, because the lcd disturbs the touchcontroller. Sharps 2.4 solution is a quick fix, but I'am working on a better one.
btw. I put a new snapshot on my website. These images are based on the current 3.5.4.1-rc2 version. The gpe-image starts touch calibration on first startup.
Please note these images are no official openzaurus releases, just development snapshots.
Dirk
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btw. I put a new snapshot on my website. These images are based on the current 3.5.4.1-rc2 version. The gpe-image starts touch calibration on first startup.
Please note these images are no official openzaurus releases, just development snapshots.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=126139\")
To save Dirk some bandwidth: [a href=\"http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.do13.de/oz/temp/image/]http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.do.../oz/temp/image/[/url]
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I am looking at writing an app or modifying an app to maintain profles and bring the wifi up and down for the the prism2_usb wifi using the wlan-ng drivers(This is the correct driver the 2.6 kernel I believe).
So far I have not got the prism2_usb driver to work on the 2.6 kernel, but I am guessing I have something set wrong or usb issue at this point or an I looking at this incorrectly?
I am hoping to write a scope this weekend of what needs to be done, including what features I want or others what it to have.
So back to my questions:
Is wlan-ng still the correct drivers for the wifi on tosa for 2.6?
Should a seperate app be create that will handle the internal wifi on the tosa?
or
Should on of the existing apps be modified to have options for the wlan-ng drivers?
I am planning on starting a different thread for this but I thought I woudl start here first since it is one of the things we want fixed on OZ. So thought ideas and opinions are welcome.
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wlan-ng is proper driver for 2.4 (0.2.1-pre) and 2.6 (0.2.3 or newer).
For profiles I suggest trying WPA-supplicant - if it work with wlan-ng then you get profiles support for free (no encryption/wep/wpa/wpa2). And there is CLI manager for it and QT3 based one.
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I'm happy work is starting to come up for the 2.6 kernel :-)
Thanks to all !
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Hello
I just flashed my SL-6000L with the latest version of 2.6 tosa. Everything so far seems to work fine. The keyboard locking and Fn+number I had with OZ 3.5.4 Opie 1.2.1 and kernel 2.4 is gone. I do have one problem an this is accessing my SD card. When using File Manager I cannot read SD?
Where should I look.
Philipp
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I know that the focus has shifted to the 2.6 kernel and it seems to coming along. But I was wondering if anyone had yet found a fix for the alarm resume from suspend yet?
As always thanks for all the effort OZ team!
Todd
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After a couple of false starts I have been able to really test the posted 2.6 kernel, and its very impressive. Suspend and resume work grood and they are very fast. This could be the bigest jump in functionality in my Z in a long while. The only real show stopper at this point (that I have) is the resume for alarms. Once that is done, I could use this everyday.
Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
Thanks
Todd
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After a couple of false starts I have been able to really test the posted 2.6 kernel, and its very impressive. Suspend and resume work grood and they are very fast. This could be the bigest jump in functionality in my Z in a long while. The only real show stopper at this point (that I have) is the resume for alarms. Once that is done, I could use this everyday.
Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
Thanks
Todd
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are the screen artifacts still there? the yellow lines ?
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After a couple of false starts I have been able to really test the posted 2.6 kernel, and its very impressive. Suspend and resume work grood and they are very fast. This could be the bigest jump in functionality in my Z in a long while. The only real show stopper at this point (that I have) is the resume for alarms. Once that is done, I could use this everyday.
Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
Thanks
Todd
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are the screen artifacts still there? the yellow lines ?
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I did not notice them.
Todd
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After a couple of false starts I have been able to really test the posted 2.6 kernel, and its very impressive. Suspend and resume work grood and they are very fast. This could be the bigest jump in functionality in my Z in a long while. The only real show stopper at this point (that I have) is the resume for alarms. Once that is done, I could use this everyday.
Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
Thanks
Todd
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are the screen artifacts still there? the yellow lines ?
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I did not notice them.
Todd
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sounds good bud ! Giving it also some testing...
I simply refuse to sell this beautiful piece of hardware, it's just the software which needs to work good and it'll be godlike
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I agree i dont want to sell this hardware but i have to admit that its hard sometimes. Having a tosa and wanting to use non-sharp roms has not always been a pleasent setup. The only roms that have working alarms are sharp and pdaxrom. And it seems that development is centered around the 1000,3100,3200 now. And i know its hard for the dev teams to support the tosa because they dont have many to work with.
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Hi all.
I gave the 2.6 image a go today, and I must say, very nice.
The increase in performance is stunning to say the least. It feels nearly like a new machine. Applications seem to load and run much more quickly than OZ 3.4.5. Screen rotation also takes far less time. I also like the added granularity in the back light brightness.
I may be missing something, but suspend and resume is worse with this image than the latest OZ release. It seems to resume when putting it back on the dock after suspending it while on battery. It also hung on resume after suspending/resuming while on the dock, but I can't seem reproduce it.
The old blue and yellow artifacting is still there (which I seem to remember reading was a bug in X and not the kernel), and resume on alarm still doesn't work.
Over all, the 2.6 image isn't ready for day to day use (for me anyway) but very, very promising.
Anyway, just my $0.02.
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http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-proj...evices-arrived/ (http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-project-devices-arrived/) - I have tosa now and will look what need to be improved/fixed on it.
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http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-proj...evices-arrived/ (http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-project-devices-arrived/) - I have tosa now and will look what need to be improved/fixed on it.
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Ah sweet !
keep us updated and also if you need to test stuff it would be awesome if you can place it in this topic.
Thanks bud !!!!
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Thats great to hear. I have had to stop using my z (at least for now) and start using a wm5 device for work since I could not get all the pieces i needed to interact with the office. But I am close and cant wait to see oz with working alarms.
Todd
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Hi all.
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It seems to resume when putting it back on the dock after suspending it while on battery.
This is a known bug. I'll fix this soon.
It also hung on resume after suspending/resuming while on the dock, but I can't seem reproduce it.
I saw this one time, can you provide more details?
The old blue and yellow artifacting is still there (which I seem to remember reading was a bug in X and not the kernel),
This has a low priority, I'll look into this later.
and resume on alarm still doesn't work.
This should be working. I checked this some time ago. Can you provide the dmesg output?
Dirk
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the fact that hrw got a tosa is promising. i hope that he and dirk will have a closer look at the
"yellow/blue line drawing bug".
@hrw> maybe you can now precisely answer the question concerning the usage of 2 gb sd
cards with the stock rom, but only if you have spare time and the mentioned 2 gb card
is available! have it told you that i visited poznan (bedlewo) a month ago, very nice
place;-)
malik
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2.4 version use Sharp driver so 1G only.
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dirk, I had to take it out of town with me to use for IM/email since the time I tested the 2.6 image and I flashed back to the latest OZ release. I'll load up the 2.6 image again this weekend and see if I can put together something helpful.
dirk and/or hrw: Is there a bugtracker around for the 2.6 image testers can consult/post to? I'd hate to clutter up this thread with stuff that's redundant/already fixed/etc'.
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dirk, I had to take it out of town with me to use for IM/email since the time I tested the 2.6 image and I flashed back to the latest OZ release. I'll load up the 2.6 image again this weekend and see if I can put together something helpful.
dirk and/or hrw: Is there a bugtracker around for the 2.6 image testers can consult/post to? I'd hate to clutter up this thread with stuff that's redundant/already fixed/etc'.
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bugs.openembedded.org
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Thanks koen, duly noted.
dirk, I loaded the 2.6 image back up.
You're correct about the alarms: testing it this time works just fine. The problem must have been between the keyboard and chair last time. :-P Somewhat relatedly, I noticed that the system date and time don't survive a reboot (resets to about 4:48AM, May 8th, 2006 every time), which may have been what threw my test of the alarm off before. (At least that's my excuse.)
I've spent some time trying to reproduce the hang on suspend/resume while on the dock with no luck. All I remember doing was setting it in the dock, suspending it, resuming it, then it hangs part way into the resume (the screen was kind of half-drawn, much like what it looks like part way through rotating the screen). I've tried to reproduce it with all sorts of combinations of things running/not running, SD card in/out, and with varied lengths of time spent in suspend. Still no love. If I can get it to do it again, I'll post anything new here.
BTW, I want to thank all the folks working on this (and other Zaurus related stuff too), I greatly appreciate your volunteered time and effort. So Z devs: Hoorah!
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Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
I found time to improve the tosa kernel (small changes).
The new Image is online Tosa 2.6 Image (http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/image)
Changes:
- Kernel 2.6.17
- No automatic resume during charging
- Headphone detection works
Dirk
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Its been a few months since the last image was posted, has there been any progress that would warrent posting a new alpha image?
I found time to improve the tosa kernel (small changes).
The new Image is online Tosa 2.6 Image (http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/image)
Changes:
- Kernel 2.6.17
- No automatic resume during charging
- Headphone detection works
Dirk
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hrw/dirk and every one involved, thanks for the progress and work !
It's going faster than before now !!
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I'm not yet involved into 2.6 kernel hacking - I have 2.6 on tosa just since last few days
I pushed fixed keymap (Record/Rotate/Home works in OPIE), LeftOk = Control. On tosa I also have a script which unload/load usb host module on suspend/resume.
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Im really glad to see the progress on the tosa. I was forced to move on to a treo 700w (which as far as I know does not run linux .... yet ) for work but Im going to have to pull out the 6000l and give the new image a look see.
Thanks
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I found time to improve the tosa kernel (small changes).
The new Image is online Tosa 2.6 Image (http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/image)
Changes:
- Kernel 2.6.17
- No automatic resume during charging
- Headphone detection works
Dirk
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I have noticed a few issues while using the kernel/images frim teh link above. I am not sure if they are know or not(I am nto even sure if they are kernel related or not).
1. usbnet does not seem to be working for me. So in other works I am not able to put my Z on the Dock and connect to it through the usb networking. Even ifconfig does not show the interfase there.
2. flashing of screen. The backlight on my Z started to flash on and off several times in a row. It reminds me of how timyfugue use to flash at me when my name was said. I have only seen this happen when the Z is not on the dock. My battery is low so is the Z trying to tell me the battery is low and I need to put it on ac power? Still trying to see if I can figure out more about when this happons and why.
Those are the only things I have found in the first hour of using the new kernel. I will post more as I find them.
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1. usbnet does not seem to be working for me. So in other works I am not able to put my Z on the Dock and connect to it through the usb networking. Even ifconfig does not show the interfase there.
You must 'modprobe g_ether' on the Zaurus.
2. flashing of screen. The backlight on my Z started to flash on and off several times in a row. It reminds me of how timyfugue use to flash at me when my name was said. I have only seen this happen when the Z is not on the dock. My battery is low so is the Z trying to tell me the battery is low and I need to put it on ac power? Still trying to see if I can figure out more about when this happons and why.
We need asymmetrical thresholds for the kernel's backlight power saving - this happens as the voltage bounces around the low threshold. It starts with the backlight on and goes low, so the backlight is dimmed, and once the backlight load is removed the voltage recovers and the backlight is returned to its previous value, then the cycle starts again.
Si
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Nice bonus for the kernel!
Things that need fixing in the interface:
All Z-- The *(*&&!! package manager gui. Multiple network profiles in network applet.
6000 the network applet needs to work. really. If I have to screw around with manual settings everytime I go for a walk, Im never gonna use this..
Is it just me?
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6000 the network applet needs to work. really. If I have to screw around with manual settings everytime I go for a walk, Im never gonna use this..
Is it just me?
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No, I have held back from trying OZ for the same reason. It does not make sense to move to a rom with fewer functioning features. If I wanted a faster kernel with networking hassles, I would use Guylhem's rc 4 rom. This is not meant as a slur against OZ (or against Guylhem's rom for that matter), only an observation. The OZ rom looks quite nice for other models. I used it back when I had a 5500. I am definitely keeping an eye on this one, but have doubts as to how quickly 6000 support will progress. Since this is my ONLY pda, I need it to work.
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All Z-- The *(*&&!! package manager gui. Multiple network profiles in network applet.
6000 the network applet needs to work. really. If I have to screw around with manual settings everytime I go for a walk, Im never gonna use this..
Are you talking about the gpe applet?
The gpe network applet can't handle the wlan-ng driver. For Opie I added support a couple of months ago.
Dirk
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All Z-- The *(*&&!! package manager gui. Multiple network profiles in network applet.
6000 the network applet needs to work. really. If I have to screw around with manual settings everytime I go for a walk, Im never gonna use this..
Are you talking about the gpe applet?
The gpe network applet can't handle the wlan-ng driver. For Opie I added support a couple of months ago.
Dirk
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I was. A post a few back was emphasizing gpe. Honestly, I avoid opie these days due to lack of a decent web browser/pain of installing one from sharprom. Rumor has it you guys are cooking up an improvement in that area... any news?
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I had tested kernel 2.6.17 with OPIE image.
I had found two magor issues:
1 Wlan does not work. usbctl can't open file. looks like some kernel module is missed...
2 System hangs up if it turned off and quickly turned on.
And one minor:
At first startup after flashing, system was stopped right after screen calibration. I had pressed last center cross hair and system was stopped. After reset, next startup don't run calibration program and OPIE was started.
Headphones detection works fine.
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xonephobe: comment out lines with 'usbctl' in /etc/network/interfaces to get wifi working
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1. usbnet does not seem to be working for me. So in other works I am not able to put my Z on the Dock and connect to it through the usb networking. Even ifconfig does not show the interfase there.
You must 'modprobe g_ether' on the Zaurus.
2. flashing of screen. The backlight on my Z started to flash on and off several times in a row. It reminds me of how timyfugue use to flash at me when my name was said. I have only seen this happen when the Z is not on the dock. My battery is low so is the Z trying to tell me the battery is low and I need to put it on ac power? Still trying to see if I can figure out more about when this happons and why.
We need asymmetrical thresholds for the kernel's backlight power saving - this happens as the voltage bounces around the low threshold. It starts with the backlight on and goes low, so the backlight is dimmed, and once the backlight load is removed the voltage recovers and the backlight is returned to its previous value, then the cycle starts again.
Si
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Thanks. I did not think about look for a new driver for 2.6.x kernel. USB networking works great now.
It is good to see that the backlight issue is something that can be explained. It is kinda cool to have it do that so that i know i need to charge or turn down the brightness of the screen. Now the question is if this is a feature or a bug.
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Hmm, I tried commenting those lines out on my unit, but on "ifup wlan0" I get:
wlanctl-ng: No shcuh device
Failed to enable the device, exitcode=1 .
run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wlan-ng exited with return code 1: Success
Upon inspection of /proc/modules, the prism2_usb, p80211, and usbcore modules are all loaded, but there's no wlan0 in the output of ifconfig or /dev/.
Am I missing something? (A module? A brain? )
It is good to see that the backlight issue is something that can be explained. It is kinda cool to have it do that so that i know i need to charge or turn down the brightness of the screen. Now the question is if this is a feature or a bug.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134904\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I don't know about "bug." I suppose "feature behaving badly" would be apt. :-P
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Hmm, I tried commenting those lines out on my unit, but on "ifup wlan0" I get:
wlanctl-ng: No shcuh device
Failed to enable the device, exitcode=1 .
run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wlan-ng exited with return code 1: Success
Upon inspection of /proc/modules, the prism2_usb, p80211, and usbcore modules are all loaded, but there's no wlan0 in the output of ifconfig or /dev/.
Am I missing something? (A module? A brain? )
You need to load the ohci driver. modprobe ohci-hcd should do the trick
There is a reason why this isn't loaded automatically: The ohci driver lacks powermanagement. With loaded ohci module the device will crash on suspend. So you need to unload the module before suspend.
It is good to see that the backlight issue is something that can be explained. It is kinda cool to have it do that so that i know i need to charge or turn down the brightness of the screen. Now the question is if this is a feature or a bug.[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134904\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I don't know about "bug." I suppose "feature behaving badly" would be apt. :-P
Right this feature has a bug.
The backlight driver limits the intensity when the battery level is low. There is a bug if batterylevel is around the threshhold.
I had tested kernel 2.6.17 with OPIE image.
System hangs up if it turned off and quickly turned on.
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Can't reproduce this, can you provide more details?
Dirk
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Hmm, I tried commenting those lines out on my unit, but on "ifup wlan0" I get:
wlanctl-ng: No shcuh device
Failed to enable the device, exitcode=1 .
run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wlan-ng exited with return code 1: Success
Upon inspection of /proc/modules, the prism2_usb, p80211, and usbcore modules are all loaded, but there's no wlan0 in the output of ifconfig or /dev/.
Am I missing something? (A module? A brain? )
You need to load the ohci driver. modprobe ohci-hcd should do the trick
There is a reason why this isn't loaded automatically: The ohci driver lacks powermanagement. With loaded ohci module the device will crash on suspend. So you need to unload the module before suspend.
Thanks, dirk. I'll try this when I get home. Would I be correct in assuming I can add a line to my apm scripts to unload/load the ohci driver on suspend/resume as a workaround, or would it be more involved than that?
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I had wifi (using the ohci_hcd module) working for a while till I ran ipkg upgrade from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.op...e/3.5.4.1/feed/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/feed/) since I was that machine had tosa(I was willing to take the risk). Since the kernel modules are newer it broke a few things, at least it is not working as well as it did before I ran upgrade. I am reflashing now to start over without running upgrade.
Should I be able to uses packages from that feed?
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Thanks, dirk. I'll try this when I get home. Would I be correct in assuming I can add a line to my apm scripts to unload/load the ohci driver on suspend/resume as a workaround, or would it be more involved than that?
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That should solve about 90% of the suspend/resume issues
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Thanks, dirk. I'll try this when I get home. Would I be correct in assuming I can add a line to my apm scripts to unload/load the ohci driver on suspend/resume as a workaround, or would it be more involved than that?
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That should solve about 90% of the suspend/resume issues
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dirk: My WiFi is up and running now. Thanks.
koen: Good to know. I took a look at the apm scripts earlier, but just at a glance. I'll dig into it next chance I get. Is there a good reason why nobody has come up with a workaround like this already? Is it just that nobody has cared enough to try, or is it more difficult that I think it is? I'll be glad to give it a shot, and if I come up with anything that doesn't suck too bad, I'll share.
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koen: Good to know. I took a look at the apm scripts earlier, but just at a glance. I'll dig into it next chance I get. Is there a good reason why nobody has come up with a workaround like this already? Is it just that nobody has cared enough to try, or is it more difficult that I think it is?
A script as a workaround should work. The best solution is to improve the driver.
Dirk
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I had wifi (using the ohci_hcd module) working for a while till I ran ipkg upgrade from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.op...e/3.5.4.1/feed/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/feed/) since I was that machine had tosa(I was willing to take the risk). Since the kernel modules are newer it broke a few things, at least it is not working as well as it did before I ran upgrade. I am reflashing now to start over without running upgrade.
Should I be able to uses packages from that feed?
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My image is build from the oz354x tree, so the packages should be identical (except zaurusd which has a newer config file).
Can you post your error messages?
Dirk
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QUOTE(xenophobe @ Jul 12 2006, 10:26 AM)
I had tested kernel 2.6.17 with OPIE image.
System hangs up if it turned off and quickly turned on.
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Can't reproduce this, can you provide more details?
I press power button on my Zaurus, and just after screen is turned black, I press power button again. Some times this leads to system hang up.
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I press power button on my Zaurus, and just after screen is turned black, I press power button again. Some times this leads to system hang up.
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Does the screen is turned on(but no backlight)? Does the green led blinks twice?
I think I have identified a race condition. I'll look into this.
Dirk
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I press power button on my Zaurus, and just after screen is turned black, I press power button again. Some times this leads to system hang up.
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Does the screen is turned on(but no backlight)? Does the green led blinks twice?
I think I have identified a race condition. I'll look into this.
Dirk
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Yes, screen is turned on, but does not contain any image or text, only '_' character in upper left corner, and no backlight.
I don't remember anything about green led behaviour.
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My image is build from the oz354x tree, so the packages should be identical (except zaurusd which has a newer config file).
Can you post your error messages?
Dirk
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I did not get errors that I saw(coudl have been int he logs that I did not look into. Most of my problems where with programs not saving config change(look and feel, network, screen setup). It may have been something else I did other then the upgrade since I have seen a few of the issues since then.
Some of the issues observations I have had since I flashed back are:
1. usb0 stops sending and recieving traffic after a while. I believe this is still an issue with writing to the cf card at the same time as using the usb bus. This is a pain in the ass since I like to put my Z on its dock when I am at work and ssh into it, uses synergy or x11vnc on it while I am at my desk. Is there no way around this issue? Will I see this same problem if I use a usb hub on the usb host port and plug in a usb network adapter(along with other usb devices like usb cd-rw and usb keyboard) to have network access and being able to uses my cf card, since I do not have access to wifi at my desk(or at work all together but that is a different issue)?
2. When I plug the Z into the dock it turns the power on. This is really not a problem other then I would like to have the g_ether loaded when this happens. Is this possable?
3. Volumn control in GPE is not working. I am guessing this is due to the sound not being fully supported in the kernel, but I though I would point it out since I plan to put it on the list of things that need to still be fixed on my website(One of the things I test with new images/kernels)
As always I will post more as I find things that show my ignorance or issues that I find. I will also start posting to zaurus.thegrantclan.org the manual fixes for images as we find them so we have a place to easily get a 6k up with 2.6 for testing along with know issues.
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Alrighty, here's the script I whipped up to unload/load ohci on suspend/resume.
#!/bin/sh
# Unloads/loads the ohci driver on suspend/resume due to
# it's lack of power management support. This is a temporary
# hack until the ohci driver is improved.
case "$1" in
suspend)
rm /var/run/ohci-was-loaded
if [ "`/sbin/lsmod | grep ohci_hcd`" != "" ]; then
rmmod ohci_hcd
echo true > /var/run/ohci-was-loaded
fi
;;
resume)
if [ "`cat /var/run/ohci-was-loaded`" = "true" ]; then
modprobe ohci_hcd
rm /var/run/ohci-was-loaded
fi
;;
esac
I placed that at /etc/apm/scripts.d/ohci-apm-hack and simlinked it to /etc/apm/suspend.d/06ohci-apm-hack (so it will run right after 05ifupdown) and to /etc/apm/resume.d/31ohci-apm-hack (again, so it will run right after 30fiupdown). I figured it'd be a good idea to run it *after* ifupdown because if wlan is up, ohci will be loaded. Since ifupdown will unload/load modules according to the rmmod/modprobe commands in the post-down/pre-up lines of /etc/network/interfaces, it will handle the unloading/loading of ohci. So this script only really does anything if ohci is loaded, but the wlan interface isn't considered up by ifupdown.
Anyway, this does the trick for me. While I highly doubt anyone's tosa will burst into flames when this runs, I warn: Use at own risk.
As a side note: are the names "ohci_hcd" and "ohci-hcd" interchangeable? Doing a "modprobe -l | grep ohci" shows "ohci-hcd" but when it's loaded, lsmod shows it as "ohci_hcd". Both seem to work when loading/unloading it via modprobe and rmmod. What's up with that?
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Some of the issues observations I have had since I flashed back are:
1. usb0 stops sending and recieving traffic after a while. I believe this is still an issue with writing to the cf card at the same time as using the usb bus. This is a pain in the ass since I like to put my Z on its dock when I am at work and ssh into it, uses synergy or x11vnc on it while I am at my desk. Is there no way around this issue? Will I see this same problem if I use a usb hub on the usb host port and plug in a usb network adapter(along with other usb devices like usb cd-rw and usb keyboard) to have network access and being able to uses my cf card, since I do not have access to wifi at my desk(or at work all together but that is a different issue)?
I do not use the usb interface. I haven't heard about such problems on the clamshell devices with 2.6 kernel, because they are using the same drivers.
2. When I plug the Z into the dock it turns the power on. This is really not a problem other then I would like to have the g_ether loaded when this happens. Is this possable?
I think this is possible with the apm scripts. Create a script which is called on resume. This script checks if the device is externally powered, then load g_ether module.
3. Volumn control in GPE is not working. I am guessing this is due to the sound not being fully supported in the kernel, but I though I would point it out since I plan to put it on the list of things that need to still be fixed on my website(One of the things I test with new images/kernels)
Sound in the kernel is fully working (at least playback checked). I don't know if GPE uses ALSA or the OSS emulation layer. At least alsamixer can control the volume. I am guessing this problem is somewhere between GPE - OSS emu - ALSA
Dirk
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Alrighty, here's the script I whipped up to unload/load ohci on suspend/resume.
Thanks, looks good as a workaround
As a side note: are the names "ohci_hcd" and "ohci-hcd" interchangeable? Doing a "modprobe -l | grep ohci" shows "ohci-hcd" but when it's loaded, lsmod shows it as "ohci_hcd". Both seem to work when loading/unloading it via modprobe and rmmod. What's up with that?
This thread explains the naming translation: Name of kernel modules (http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2006-April/034238.html)
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Some of the issues observations I have had since I flashed back are:
1. usb0 stops sending and recieving traffic after a while. I believe this is still an issue with writing to the cf card at the same time as using the usb bus. This is a pain in the ass since I like to put my Z on its dock when I am at work and ssh into it, uses synergy or x11vnc on it while I am at my desk. Is there no way around this issue? Will I see this same problem if I use a usb hub on the usb host port and plug in a usb network adapter(along with other usb devices like usb cd-rw and usb keyboard) to have network access and being able to uses my cf card, since I do not have access to wifi at my desk(or at work all together but that is a different issue)?
I do not use the usb interface. I haven't heard about such problems on the clamshell devices with 2.6 kernel, because they are using the same drivers.
It does nto seem to be related to the 2.6 kernel. I was seeing it before on pdaxrom using hte 2.4 kernel and found a few other people that has seen the problem before on pdaxrom. When I posted about it last May I had decided it was a pdaxrom problem but now i am starting to wonder. I will try to do some testing and see if OZ 3.5.4 has the issue.
2. When I plug the Z into the dock it turns the power on. This is really not a problem other then I would like to have the g_ether loaded when this happens. Is this possable?
I think this is possible with the apm scripts. Create a script which is called on resume. This script checks if the device is externally powered, then load g_ether module.
Is there a way to check if the Z is on the dock instead of external power since this woudl be when to load the g_ether and activate the usb0(also woudl be a good place to kick off unison)?
3. Volumn control in GPE is not working. I am guessing this is due to the sound not being fully supported in the kernel, but I though I would point it out since I plan to put it on the list of things that need to still be fixed on my website(One of the things I test with new images/kernels)
Sound in the kernel is fully working (at least playback checked). I don't know if GPE uses ALSA or the OSS emulation layer. At least alsamixer can control the volume. I am guessing this problem is somewhere between GPE - OSS emu - ALSA
Dirk
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I am able to adjust the volumn from alsamixer so I am am guessing this is a GPE issue that will need to be figured out. I will add this to the list of things that need to be fixed.
Thanks
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As a side note: are the names "ohci_hcd" and "ohci-hcd" interchangeable? Doing a "modprobe -l | grep ohci" shows "ohci-hcd" but when it's loaded, lsmod shows it as "ohci_hcd". Both seem to work when loading/unloading it via modprobe and rmmod. What's up with that?
This thread explains the naming translation: Name of kernel modules (http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2006-April/034238.html)
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Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks!
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Is there a way to check if the Z is on the dock instead of external power since this woudl be when to load the g_ether and activate the usb0(also woudl be a good place to kick off unison)?
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IRC. tosa is the only device which is able to detect the usb connection.
I haven't looked in detail into the udc implementation how the implement automatic activation of usb0.
I'll put this into my todo list.
Dirk
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Is there a way to check if the Z is on the dock instead of external power since this woudl be when to load the g_ether and activate the usb0(also woudl be a good place to kick off unison)?
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IRC. tosa is the only device which is able to detect the usb connection.
I haven't looked in detail into the udc implementation how the implement automatic activation of usb0.
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using zaurusd?
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I'm now also trying out GPE on this beta test, and I agree that it makes the 6000 seem very much faster. Still got the yellow trails on the screen though
Got usbnetworking up, albeit with some funnies over routing (but that could be due to my desktop machine, as I've been playing with multihoming and route mangling!), and my next step is wifi (although I've got the "usbctl not found" problem.
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here's my hack to the /etc/network/interfaces file to load the ohci-hcd module
# Wireless interfaces
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_type wlan-ng
wireless_mode managed
wireless_key xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wireless_essid yyyyyyyy
pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
pre-up modprobe ohci-hcd
#pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
#post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
post-down rmmod prism2_usb
post-down rmmod ohci-hcd
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I hacked together a quick script to allow me to switch between different network "profiles" - download the file netswitch from http://www.zaurus.org.uk/downloads.html (http://www.zaurus.org.uk/downloads.html) - I couldn't get the forum to allow me to attach the file to this posting in a meaningful way!
Put the "netswitch" script in your path somewhere. It allows saving the current network config to a named "profile" and replacing current config with a previously saved one.
e.g. netswitch save home
netswitch use workor, use interactively:
# netswitch
Enter command ('use', 'save'): save
Enter value (existing saves are home wp): btopenzone
finished
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829 Jun 30 15:41 interfaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829 Jun 30 16:13 interfaces.btopenzone
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 842 Jun 30 15:41 interfaces.home
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829 Jun 30 15:37 interfaces.work
note there's very little error checking, so use at own peril!
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I'm now also trying out GPE on this beta test, and I agree that it makes the 6000 seem very much faster. Still got the yellow trails on the screen though
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There was a patch for kdrive floating around somewhere that fixed it by using some kind of shadow framebuffer. Can anyone remember the location of that patch?
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I hacked together a quick script to allow me to switch between different network "profiles"
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Ehm, there's an easier way, one that you can even configure via the gui. OZ uses the same format as debian for /etc/network/interfaces and also supports virtual interfaces. Take a loot at this:
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
iface home inet static
address 192.168.1.7
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.1
wireless_mode managed
wireless_channel 1 # optional
wireless_essid linksys # change to your essid
wireless_key1 12345asdf #this is your wep key if it's needed, (optional)
wireless_ap 00:0F:66:12:0D:C9 # your accesspoint MAC (optional)
iface work inet dhcp
wireless_essid workworkwork
wireless_key1 asdf12345
at home you do 'ifup wlan0=home' and at work you do 'ifup wlan0=work'. You can add more virtual interfaces using the guis in opie or gpe if you want.
OZ has a lot more cool debian stuff like this, so don't be afraid to try howto's written for debian-based stuff on your OZ install.
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Ehm, there's an easier way, one that you can even configure via the gui. OZ uses the same format as debian for /etc/network/interfaces and also supports virtual interfaces. Take a loot at this:
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
iface home inet static
address 192.168.1.7
-snip-
iface work inet dhcp
at home you do 'ifup wlan0=home' and at work you do 'ifup wlan0=work'. You can add more virtual interfaces using the guis in opie or gpe if you want.
OZ has a lot more cool debian stuff like this, so don't be afraid to try howto's written for debian-based stuff on your OZ install.
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that's really cool. so, all we need is a network start/stop button that understands all this and it will almost start becoming user friendly.
how about GPRS & other modem stuff? or bluetooth PAN? are there any hints you can share here?
I will add this all to OZ/GPE wiki unless you want to do it yourself.
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Ehm, there's an easier way, one that you can even configure via the gui. OZ uses the same format as debian for /etc/network/interfaces and also supports virtual interfaces. Take a loot at this:
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
iface home inet static
address 192.168.1.7
-snip-
iface work inet dhcp
at home you do 'ifup wlan0=home' and at work you do 'ifup wlan0=work'. You can add more virtual interfaces using the guis in opie or gpe if you want.
OZ has a lot more cool debian stuff like this, so don't be afraid to try howto's written for debian-based stuff on your OZ install.
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that's really cool. so, all we need is a network start/stop button that understands all this and it will almost start becoming user friendly.
how about GPRS & other modem stuff? or bluetooth PAN? are there any hints you can share here?
I will add this all to OZ/GPE wiki unless you want to do it yourself.
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GPRS is handled by ppp, gkdial should be able to handle that (if it's in the feeds). The gpe people claim that gpe-bluetooth (the panel applet) should be able to handle PAN, but I haven't tested that yet (and it relies on /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth to be correct).
And please add it to the wiki, I have the same level of access as you do
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GPRS is handled by ppp, gkdial should be able to handle that (if it's in the feeds). The gpe people claim that gpe-bluetooth (the panel applet) should be able to handle PAN, but I haven't tested that yet (and it relies on /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth to be correct).
And please add it to the wiki, I have the same level of access as you do
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no, you have a higher level of access - you were able to add top level entries to the wiki. but I shall do what I can.
and as for trying to even register to login to the wordpress system, I can't even find a link - and the login page doesn't have an option to register.
sorry, and I know you guys might not want to hear it, but so far OZ has been a very unwelcoming experience - it's a case of "install it and good luck". If as much time were put into the wiki as spent answering the same old questions here on OESF forums and fixing the niggles, it'd be awesome.
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. If as much time were put into the wiki as spent answering the same old questions here on OESF forums and fixing the niggles, it'd be awesome.
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and that is were all you users come in. *you* can contribute to the wiki. The 'talk' pages are unprotected, the admin's email address can be easily found, etc.
Take a look at the first 4 rules on [a href=\"http://www.nslu2-linux.org/]http://www.nslu2-linux.org/[/url] :
# You will search the wiki first here and read the FAQ before asking questions.
# You must read and follow the steps in the README file precisely when flashing firmware.
# Those who ask the questions, update the wiki when they get the answers.
# Those who complain about the documentation, update the wiki to make it better.
I stand by those rules, and think they should be applied to every project.
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I had wifi (using the ohci_hcd module) working for a while till I ran ipkg upgrade from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.op...e/3.5.4.1/feed/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/feed/) since I was that machine had tosa(I was willing to take the risk). Since the kernel modules are newer it broke a few things, at least it is not working as well as it did before I ran upgrade. I am reflashing now to start over without running upgrade.
Should I be able to uses packages from that feed?
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when I flashed to the latest GPE install yesterday, and then yesterday evening did an IPKG upgrade, after rebooting I got an error that the kernel was mismatched to its modules' versions, and there was a long wait inviting me to abandon booting - presumably to reflash.
however, I threw caution to the wind and let it carry on, and everything seems OK still. However, you probably want to ensure that your tosa kernel build version matches the module builds in the feed to avoid this error.
p.s. yes, during the upgrade it did install a load of new modules.
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I can't get WEP to work using Tosa's builtin wireless lan.
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_type wlan-ng
wireless_mode managed
wireless_key1 11111111111111111
wireless_essid MYWORKPLACE
pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
pre-up modprobe ohci-hcd
#pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
#post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
post-down rmmod prism2_usb
post-down rmmod ohci-hcd
iwconfig reports
wlan0 IEEE 802.11-b ESSID:"MYWORKPLACE" Nickname:"MYWORKPLACE"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:66:EE:06:8A
Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power:18 dBm
Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Link Quality=21/92 Signal level=-62 dBm Noise level=-84 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
I don't recall seeing anything about this in this thread?
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I can't get WEP to work using Tosa's builtin wireless lan.
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_type wlan-ng
wireless_mode managed
wireless_key1 11111111111111111
wireless_essid MYWORKPLACE
pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
pre-up modprobe ohci-hcd
#pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
#post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
post-down rmmod prism2_usb
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I am not sure how relivent this is to using /etc/network/interface but I know WEP does not work with the /etc/wlan/wlancfg-SSID unless you define the WEP in all 4 key slots. My desknote that also uses a usb wifi card requires that same thing. I do not currently have WEP setup anywhere so I can not test this right now(Used it at school is how I know). I figure it is worth a try since I seem to remember it was something to do with the driver needing it that way.
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when I flashed to the latest GPE install yesterday, and then yesterday evening did an IPKG upgrade, after rebooting I got an error that the kernel was mismatched to its modules' versions, and there was a long wait inviting me to abandon booting - presumably to reflash.
however, I threw caution to the wind and let it carry on, and everything seems OK still. However, you probably want to ensure that your tosa kernel build version matches the module builds in the feed to avoid this error.
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right, there is a mismatch between the installed kernel and the modules into the feed.
You can ignore these message or supress it by removing /etc/init.d/checkversion
Dirk
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I can't get WEP to work using Tosa's builtin wireless lan.
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
 wireless_type wlan-ng
    wireless_mode managed
    wireless_key1 11111111111111111
    wireless_essid MYWORKPLACEI don't recall seeing anything about this in this thread?
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This format won't work with the wlan-ng driver. Use this instead:
    wireless_enc on
    wlan_ng_authtype opensystem
    wlan_ng_key0 aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa
The tosa internal usb wlan can only be used wit the wlan-ng driver which support a different syntax.
Did you modified your file with the gpe gui? If yes this won't work, because these gpe doesn't know the wlan-ng syntax.
Gpe needs patches to switch the format if "wireless_type wlan-ng" is selected. I did this a few month ago for opie, but this needs to be redone for gpe.
Please do not blame me or the oz team about the driver. Sharp made the decision and there is no other linux driver available.
I'm not happy with this driver, but there is no choice.
A long term solution might be to integrate the usb part into the kernel hostap driver, but this needs a lot of work.
Btw. Another point, wireless tools (iwconfig, iwlist,..) aren't fully supported by wlan-ng. You have to use their own tools (wlan-ng-ctl...)
Dirk
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The tosa internal usb wlan can only be used wit the wlan-ng driver which support a different syntax.
Did you modified your file with the gpe gui? If yes this won't work, because these gpe doesn't know the wlan-ng syntax. Gpe needs patches to switch the format if "wireless_type wlan-ng" is selected. I did this a few month ago for opie, but this needs to be redone for gpe.
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I won't blame you for inheriting Sharp's code - well, not much anyway
I had used the GPE control panel because, well, why was it put there otherwise
I used to use debian a lot, but now I'm getting lazy due to suse yast control panels, but you OZ people don't want lazy users do you
Thanks for your help for that, I have tried this and it works, and have wiki'd it:
[a href=\"http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/WifiTosa2.6WepGpe]http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/WifiTosa2.6WepGpe[/url]
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I'm now also trying out GPE on this beta test, and I agree that it makes the 6000 seem very much faster. Still got the yellow trails on the screen though
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There was a patch for kdrive floating around somewhere that fixed it by using some kind of shadow framebuffer. Can anyone remember the location of that patch?
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please, this remark of koen should call the attention of some tosa developers. the yellow trails keep me (and i guess not only me) away from considering oz as an alternative rom.
i follow this thread since weeks and i am sure that we will end with the best hardware coupled with the best software among all zaurus users;-)
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There was a patch for kdrive floating around somewhere that fixed it by using some kind of shadow framebuffer. Can anyone remember the location of that patch?
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please, this remark of koen should call the attention of some tosa developers. the yellow trails keep me (and i guess not only me) away from considering oz as an alternative rom.
i follow this thread since weeks and i am sure that we will end with the best hardware coupled with the best software among all zaurus users;-)
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I have been looking for this page and have found a few bits of information from IRC logs and one area of hte forum. It appears that kmeaw come up with a X-nolines.patch.gz patch for Xfbdev. There was even a post of a replacement Xfbdev that seemed to fix the problem. The links in [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11751&hl=kmeaw]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...=11751&hl=kmeaw[/url] no longer work for the Xfbdev replacement and http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz (http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz) which I found in the irclog2html does not seem to work either. I have not found anything to the mailing list about this yet but I am still looking.
My question is how is Xfbdev compiled different for the 6k then the other Z running X or is it a different with the fb that cause the 6k to be the only one with this problem?
Also the yellow lines do not show up at all if the screen is rotated(I keep mine rotated left all teh time so I never see the lines). What is different between these two states?
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There was a patch for kdrive floating around somewhere that fixed it by using some kind of shadow framebuffer. Can anyone remember the location of that patch?
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please, this remark of koen should call the attention of some tosa developers. the yellow trails keep me (and i guess not only me) away from considering oz as an alternative rom.
i follow this thread since weeks and i am sure that we will end with the best hardware coupled with the best software among all zaurus users;-)
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I have been looking for this page and have found a few bits of information from IRC logs and one area of hte forum. It appears that kmeaw come up with a X-nolines.patch.gz patch for Xfbdev. There was even a post of a replacement Xfbdev that seemed to fix the problem. The links in [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11751&hl=kmeaw]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...=11751&hl=kmeaw[/url] no longer work for the Xfbdev replacement and http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz (http://kmeaw.com/tmp/X-nolines.patch.gz) which I found in the irclog2html does not seem to work either. I have not found anything to the mailing list about this yet but I am still looking.
My question is how is Xfbdev compiled different for the 6k then the other Z running X or is it a different with the fb that cause the 6k to be the only one with this problem?
Also the yellow lines do not show up at all if the screen is rotated(I keep mine rotated left all teh time so I never see the lines). What is different between these two states?
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Iirc it has to to with updating the framebuffer directly or via a seperate buffer (e.g. when rotated), the no-lines patch did something like that for non-rotated framebuffers. Sharp fixed it in the kernel, but the released source doesn't match the binary.
(yes, that's a gpl violation)
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on the subject of yellow trails... I have only found this to be a problem when dragging things around on the screen, and in practise it's only very slightly annoying.
I thought a separate thread on testing 3.5.4.1/k2.6 would be a good thing as this one's getting too long and lost focus.
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Iirc it has to to with updating the framebuffer directly or via a seperate buffer (e.g. when rotated), the no-lines patch did something like that for non-rotated framebuffers. Sharp fixed it in the kernel, but the released source doesn't match the binary.
(yes, that's a gpl violation)
I am sure what the problem lies within framebuffer memory mapping. The original Sharp ROM has this problem if you use FB in your program, but Sharp had wrote special display driver for Qtopia, where they fixed this problem.
The "gradient" program from Qtopia samples (was attached to some message in this forum, but I can't find it) draws gradient filled square and shows artifacts with any screen orientation.
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Ehm, there's an easier way, one that you can even configure via the gui. OZ uses the same format as debian for /etc/network/interfaces and also supports virtual interfaces. Take a loot at this:
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
iface home inet static
address 192.168.1.7
...snip...
iface work inet dhcp
wireless_essid workworkwork
...snip...
at home you do 'ifup wlan0=home' and at work you do 'ifup wlan0=work'.
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One more thought on this.. the Opie network control application doesn't seem to understand that when I bring up "home" I really mean wlan0-home. What I want is point and tap interface to bring up the different wifi profiles... the original Sharp one with the Cacko fixes worked pretty well for wifi and also bluetooth PAN.
Basically, the 6000 keyboard is a PITA and I'd rather use the GUI as much as possible!
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Hi all,
First of all, i'm really happy to see the interaction and progress of every one in this thread for the 6000 and a 2.6 kernel !
From time to time i take a look here and despite me being lately overloaded by work here i just want to say hi and when we reach the goal described in the beginning of this thread people will be rewarded for their hard work. Please report your progress/work/patches and coordinate with the key-people here whenever you can in this thread.
Thanks again !
Radiance
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Radiance: try OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 on tosa - nice improvments over previous versions.