OESF Portables Forum

Everything Else => Zaurus Distro Support and Discussion => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Angstrom & OpenZaurus => Topic started by: CoreDump on March 27, 2006, 04:22:15 am

Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 27, 2006, 04:22:15 am
Hi all  

I've finished GPE for Akita yesterday so I thought I'd upload it to get some feedback.
Opie & E17 images will be uploaded when they are ready (maybe next week).

Download the tarball:
EDIT:The new URL is http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/)

Content:
Kernel - The current 3.5.4.1 kernel (2.6.15)
    tarballs - tar.gz rootfs to be used with altboots tar.gz (http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Altboot/install-tgz/) installer to create a bootable SD / CF card
    loop-images - ext2 loop-images. These can be booted directly off SD / CF using       altboot. Requires kernel 2.6.15 to work
    hentges-*-akita*.tar.gz - Flashable initrd for this release

The tarball includes two different images: GPE and bootstrap. The bootstrap image doesn't have a GUI installed, just the commandline. The GPE image is probably the one your are after  

For a normal installation (into the flash) all you need is
 - The kernel
 - hentges-gpe-akita*.tar.gz or hentges-bootstrap-akita*.tar.gz
 - updater.sh from OZ3.5.4*

To use the .ext2 loop-image all you need is
 - An already installed 2.6.15 kernel (the one from 3.5.4.1-apha* should work just fine)
- An already installed altboot bootmanager (again, the one from 3.5.4.1-alpha works just fine)
- One or more ext2 loop-images from the "loop-images" folder
- Rename the .ext2 file so that it ends in "-rootfs.bin" (example: hentges-gpe-image-rootfs.bin and / or hentges-boostrap-image-rootfs.bin)
- Create a folder called "boot-images" on your SD or CF card
- Copy *rootfs.bin into the folder "boot-images"
- Reboot the Z, launch the altboot menu and select "Boot from [SD | CF]

To create your own loop-image or to install this release directly onto a SD or CF card
you'll need to:
 - Copy one of the files from tarballs/*.rootfs.tar.gz onto SD, CF or into /home
 - Reboot your Z
 - Launch altboot and select "Advanced/Install tar.gz" (or whatever that was called  )
 - Follow the instructions (loop-file installs into a loop-image with user-defined size / name, "direct install" installs the FS directly onto the card which *must* be ext2-formatted in this case!
- Select "Boot from [CF | SD] when the altboot menu shows up

Please note(1): If your SD / CF card is large enough you can install multiple (http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Altboot/altboot-3.jpg) loop-images and a direct install onto it

Please note(2): When booting from SD / CF you'll see the message "* * *Booting external rootfs * * *" (or something to that effect). Each and every message after this is coming from the new rootfs!
Since altboot is installed into the new rootfs you'll get a second altboot menu right after this above message is printed. Do not touch it if you do not know what you are doing.

Please note(3): When booting from something else but flash you'll see some errors about not beeing able to mount /sys and /proc. You can safefly ignore them.

General Notes about the GPE Image
- The image is based on the OZ 3.5.4.1 sources from yesterday
- Yes, it runs the new and shiny 2.6.15 kernel
- Sound works out of the box
- All hotkeys (except the ones printed on the LCD) work (thanks florian!):
-- The Calendar, Adresses, E-Mail and Menu buttons work as expected
-- Pressing Home switches through all open windows
-- Fn+Home minimizes all windows and shows the desktop
- The installed apps include (beside others):
-- Abiword
-- Gnumeric
-- Gaim
-- Gftp
-- A working and pre-configured (!) mplayer (read /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to enable correct playback in the VT)
-- Gxine (untested!)
- The 2.6.15 kernel is compiled in "quiet" mode. There will be no message what-so-ever until after the kernel is booted. This is completly normal
- During boot a Splashscreen with the GPE logo will show up and hide all boot-messages. Use Fn+Left-Arrow to show the messages.
- The first boot can take a few minutes due to run-time configuration. This is completely normal.

Have fun  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on March 27, 2006, 05:07:19 am
Quote
- Yes, it runs the new and shiny 2.6.15 kernel
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120416\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

2.6.16 is even newer and shinier
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 27, 2006, 05:17:07 am
Quote
Quote
- Yes, it runs the new and shiny 2.6.15 kernel
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120416\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

2.6.16 is even newer and shinier
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120424\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Doh, releasing a new kernel while I'm stuck at work is cheating  
BTW: I like your sig    
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: cal on March 28, 2006, 12:55:18 pm
Is it bad to change your rom every other day?  I'm really excited about all your ROMs.  I'm going to have to look into altboot.  Can you mix kernels with altboot, or do all roms need to use the same one?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: cal on March 28, 2006, 12:59:35 pm
BTW, it took me a few minutes to figure out that I needed to hit "fn left" to see the boot screen and answer some questions.  The instructions kind of implied that you could, but you don't have too.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 28, 2006, 12:59:47 pm
Quote
Is it bad to change your rom every other day? 

Not really

Quote
I'm really excited about all your ROMs.  I'm going to have to look into altboot.  Can you mix kernels with altboot, or do all roms need to use the same one?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120719\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

All ROMs use the same kernel.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: cal on March 28, 2006, 01:14:14 pm
I just installed the ROM, I get to the GPE splash screen, and do the FN Left to answer the install questions.  Now I'm at the blank screen with the "X" cursor.  The screen flashes a little every few minutes, and otherwise I get nothing.   Its been about 7 or 8 minutes.
  Any ideas?

[problem solved]
I erased the user partition of memory with the pdaxrom installler.  Then everything worked.  I must have had something leftover from my attempt at OZ GPE that was messing things up.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 28, 2006, 01:52:35 pm
Quote
I just installed the ROM, I get to the GPE splash screen, and do the FN Left to answer the install questions.  Now I'm at the blank screen with the "X" cursor.  The screen flashes a little every few minutes, and otherwise I get nothing.   Its been about 7 or 8 minutes.
  Any ideas?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120725\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

How did you install the image? Did you flash it?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 28, 2006, 02:00:45 pm
Quote
BTW, it took me a few minutes to figure out that I needed to hit "fn left" to see the boot screen and answer some questions.  The instructions kind of implied that you could, but you don't have too.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120722\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That actually is a bug   (fixed)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: cal on March 28, 2006, 02:13:11 pm
CoreDump.  You are the man!  GPE Works and it is beautiful.  Xine works well.  Excuse me, while I go sing the praises of CoreDump
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 28, 2006, 03:01:33 pm
Quote
CoreDump.  You are the man!  GPE Works and it is beautiful.  Xine works well.  Excuse me, while I go sing the praises of CoreDump
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120737\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Glad you like it  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: adf on March 28, 2006, 05:14:30 pm
quetions:

Do usb,cf, and sd  all work as expected?
does sd support cards larger than 1 gig?
will it work (with special emphasis on will it work with altboot) on a 3100?
I am hoping to try different guis/setups/optimizations for different situations on different sd cards.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on March 29, 2006, 01:04:43 am
Quote
quetions:

Do usb,cf, and sd  all work as expected?

Dunno for USB (didn't try it with kernel 2.6) but SD and CF work fine.

Quote
does sd support cards larger than 1 gig?

Can't say as I do not own a card >= 1>G but I didn't hear of any problems in this direction

Quote
will it work (with special emphasis on will it work with altboot) on a 3100?

Quite possible, yeah. As long as you use the propper Kernel for a 3100.
However, /etc/fstab and friends are going to be setup totally wrong but that can be fixed manually.

Note: The loop-file comes with its own altboot installed. You should be able to boot into init=/bin/sh at the _second_ altboot prompt in case you encounter serious problems.

Quote
I am hoping to try different guis/setups/optimizations for different situations on different sd cards.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=120763\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

And that's exactly where altboot (and 3.5.4) shines  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Mahoro on May 26, 2006, 04:07:23 am
I couldn't download, is there any hentges rom ?
I don't want to install apps one by one
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on May 26, 2006, 06:34:50 am
Quote
I couldn't download, is there any hentges rom ?
I don't want to install apps one by one
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128460\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I've updated the URL  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 26, 2006, 12:18:30 pm
Hi, gave this a try, but had a flash write error followed by it rebooting and giving a ton of jffs2 errors before resulting in a kernel panic.

I'm wondering if the flash needs to be resized. I resized it for cacko. What size should it be for this on a C1000?

Thanks
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on May 26, 2006, 02:01:27 pm
Quote
Hi, gave this a try, but had a flash write error followed by it rebooting and giving a ton of jffs2 errors before resulting in a kernel panic.

I'm wondering if the flash needs to be resized. I resized it for cacko. What size should it be for this on a C1000?

Thanks
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128506\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

You need to resize it to factory conditions again
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 26, 2006, 03:35:57 pm
Quote
You need to resize it to factory conditions again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128518\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Can you remember what those were? I can't :-(
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: adf on May 26, 2006, 04:24:55 pm
Quote
Quote
You need to resize it to factory conditions again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128518\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Can you remember what those were? I can't :-(
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128533\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
wouldn't a nand restore be easiest?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: scheck.r on May 26, 2006, 04:42:53 pm
Quote
Quote
You need to resize it to factory conditions again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128518\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Can you remember what those were? I can't :-(
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128533\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I think you need to resize root partition to 53Mb using pdaxrom NAND resize tool
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 26, 2006, 06:34:00 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
You need to resize it to factory conditions again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128518\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Can you remember what those were? I can't :-(
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128533\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I think you need to resize root partition to 53Mb using pdaxrom NAND resize tool
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128538\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I resized it to the max 121 and that worked - this looks pretty cool

Edit:

I tried it again with 53, but that came up with jffs2 errors.
I increased to 60 and this worked with no errors.
Am sure the correct point is somewhere in between, but I'm just playing. If anyone knows ;-)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 26, 2006, 06:47:27 pm
Where do I find the bits that I need to open pdf in GPE? Is it possible? I had a look in the feed on hentges.net but there was access denied in the gpe folder.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on May 27, 2006, 08:53:08 am
Quote
Where do I find the bits that I need to open pdf in GPE? Is it possible? I had a look in the feed on hentges.net but there was access denied in the gpe folder.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128548\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

There was a rather good PFD viewer for GPE, now what was its name again
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on May 27, 2006, 09:35:51 am
Quote
Quote
Where do I find the bits that I need to open pdf in GPE? Is it possible? I had a look in the feed on hentges.net but there was access denied in the gpe folder.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128548\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

There was a rather good PFD viewer for GPE, now what was its name again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128586\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

epdfview, evince, gpdf?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Antikx on May 27, 2006, 10:13:44 pm
Quote
Where do I find the bits that I need to open pdf in GPE? Is it possible? I had a look in the feed on hentges.net but there was access denied in the gpe folder.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128548\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I've been using Evince and am very impressed with it.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 29, 2006, 02:21:40 pm
That's great :-)

Which feed should I find them in?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Greg2 on May 29, 2006, 03:18:34 pm
Quote
That's great :-)

Which feed should I find them in?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=128797\")
upgrades:
[a href=\"http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/upgrades/]http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.op.../feed/upgrades/[/url]
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: lowen on May 29, 2006, 03:29:41 pm
Quote
Quote
You need to resize it to factory conditions again
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128518\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Can you remember what those were? I can't :-(
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128533\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Default, IIRC, is 64/64 even split.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 29, 2006, 06:54:22 pm
Quote
upgrades:
http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.op.../feed/upgrades/ (http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/upgrades/)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128809\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

epdfview_0.1.2-r1_arm.ipk

from the above location won't install. I get an ipkg failure and the whole package manager falls over.

Any ideas?

EDIT:

OK, looked at the system configuration tool and it mentioned that it was out of space. That the sytem part only had 2mb left.

I'm guessing the NAND partitioning of 64mb isn't enough.

If I max out the partition to 121, will this have a downside elsewhere?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on May 29, 2006, 09:14:21 pm
Tried the latest 3.5.4.1 kernel with gpe on my akita. Didn't realise that the zImage file needs to be zImage.bin for akita instead of plain zImage like in Collie.

Once I got that right, everything went smoothly.

Great job CoreDump! Everything felt like 2~3 times faster than the Cacko 1.23 rom I am currently using.

I also tried RC5 on the Collie and now it has no more visible problems.

One thing I noticed about the rotation thingie. When I rotate my Akita to  inverted portrait, the cursor keys remained unmapped to the new orientation. Other than that, everything was swell! Very fast!

btw, can I use the efonts*.ipk files in the hentges rom like I did for Cacko to display Chinese characters? I currently have MurphyTalk and efonts installed on my Cacko for Chinese input and reading. Any tips for that? Thanks!
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: VoiDeR on May 29, 2006, 10:12:14 pm
Dumb ? but what zaurus module is the AKITA?  Will it work on a sl-c700?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on May 30, 2006, 02:05:33 am
Quote
Dumb ? but what zaurus module is the AKITA?  Will it work on a sl-c700?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128859\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Akita is the codename for the Zaurus SL-C1000, so no, this image won't run on your c7x0, sorry.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 05:37:18 am
OK,

I tried again with a resize of 96 but that also didn't give me any space to install anything.

I've just tried again with a resize to the max of 121.

This is what the system info says:

Code: [Select]
[B]System Memory[/B]
Free Memory: 1.0mb
Total 60.0mb

[B]Internal Flash[/B]
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

[B]Internal Flash[/B]
Free Memory: 61.3mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

This is pretty much identical to every NAND utilities flash resize I've tried using the Cacko installer to resize the flash.

Any every time I try (no matter what flash size I've tried) and install epdfview_0.1.2-r1_arm.ipk

Code: [Select]
I get a pop up saying IPKG backend failure, cannot continue
And the package manager falls over. I tried looking in the log, but I couldn't see anything near the end that looked like info about the failure.

Anyone got any ideas why this is failing to allow me to install anything?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on May 30, 2006, 06:24:07 am
Just do a NAND restore so you can be certain about your flash layout.
I guess all your problems vanish after that.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 06:32:15 am
Quote
Just do a NAND restore so you can be certain about your flash layout.
I guess all your problems vanish after that.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128930\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

NAND restore of what?

And then what should I try?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Torsten Wagner on May 30, 2006, 09:57:04 am
Hi,


did anyone give Hentges-Aktia-OPIE and WPA a try ?

Before I used OZ (I think it was the second RC) now I would like to try the hentges ROM

I downloaded hentges-opie-image-de-akita_T1-RC4.tar.gz

Flash was no problem and it runs great.

Now I started to to set-up my WPA WLAN connection, in the same way I did in OZ. (used http://openzaurus.berlios.de/HowTos/roamin...wpa_supplicant) (http://openzaurus.berlios.de/HowTos/roaming_with_wpa_supplicant))

In OZ it works fine but I run in trouble with the hentges ROM.

Just a few points I noticed.

Under OZ, the card was linked to wlan0 in hentges to eth0.
The card is somewhat strange detected "prismI" before AFAIK it was detected as DCF-660W

the wpa_supplicant did not work in hentges.
the command wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -Dhostap -c \etc\wpa_supplicant.conf pops up that the card or kernel is not able to run ... ???? I will paste the exact log if nececarry.

I belive but I can not proof it without flashing the old OZ again, that there are different versions of WPA_Supplicant ?

Can anybody tell  me wether he was successful with WPA under the last hentges release

Thanks

Torsten
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Hrw on May 30, 2006, 10:00:58 am
I have to resolve that eth0<>wlan0 situation in some way....

orinoco_cs driver (eth0) does not support WPA at all
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Torsten Wagner on May 30, 2006, 10:11:29 am
Quote
I have to resolve that eth0<>wlan0 situation in some way....

orinoco_cs driver (eth0) does not support WPA at all
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128957\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks Hrw for the quick answer.
If I understand you right, the DCF-660W was before running by another driver and know switched to the orinoco_cs driver. If so, it should be possible to switch it back to the old driver. Just because before (OZ RC2) it works fine for me.


Greetings

Torsten
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: azalin on May 30, 2006, 10:37:28 am
Hi, this is the first time I use OZ and Hentges, I decided to try both out in the GPE versions. First I flashed OZ RC4 and everything went ok (I changed the filename). Then I flashed Hentges and tried it a bit, got a few errors with the sound, so I wanted to change back to 3.5.4.1-RC4. When I did so it looked like flashing went ok, but I got the following error:

ERROR: FAILED
/bin/sh: Can't access tty: job control turned off

A search for this on the forum only brought up a thread about a request to develop the installer.

Afaik I did not do anything different than the first time, other than that the first time I started with a flash that was erased by the pdaxrom installer instead of the one supplied with OZ.

My machine is a C1000, nand is partitioned to 64/64 with the pdaxrom partition manager (which is the default I read earlier in a thread here).

Could anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and how to fix it please?

What I'm going to try now is to reboot to pdaxrom and erase the flash with that, then overwrite the files with the OZ ones again and try to reinstall.

EDIT:
Hmm I tried reinstalling Hentges and that seems to go well. I still don't know why the normal OZ 3.5.4.1 RC4 worked the first time and not the second though. Perhaps something to do with erasing the user part of the flash? However in Hentges I can't start a shell (other programs go fine).
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 11:20:17 am
Is there a reason why the background and top toolbar of abiword is purple? I'm kinda new to abiword, how do I change that?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Hrw on May 30, 2006, 11:27:38 am
Quote
If I understand you right, the DCF-660W was before running by another driver and know switched to the orinoco_cs driver. If so, it should be possible to switch it back to the old driver. Just because before (OZ RC2) it works fine for me.

The problem is that DCF-660W is "manfid 0x0156, 0x0002" which is used by many cards - most of them work with orinoco_cs, many works also with hostap_cs (but not all). We cannot disable them from orinoco_cs binding so sometimes DCF-660W is handled by orinoco_cs (eth0) instead of hostap_cs (wlan0).

Solution is 'ipkg remove -recursive *orinoco*'
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 11:30:29 am
OK,

I did a NAND restore of the trisoft.de NAND backup of the C1000's Sharp ROM.

I then flashed OZ/GPE

This is what the system info says:

Code: [Select]
[B]System Memory[/B]
Free Memory: 2.0mb
Total 60.0mb

[B]Internal Flash[/B]
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

[B]Internal Flash[/B]
Free Memory: 39.4mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

So this is a bit of a change from the previous attempt, especially in the /home area.

I tried installing the epdf again, but again an error occurred with nothing in the error log to report to explain what happened.

What the heck am I doing wrong? :-(

Could it be the program I'm trying to install or is it my memory layout?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: lardman on May 30, 2006, 11:37:48 am
Quote
I tried installing the epdf again, but again an error occurred with nothing in the error log to report to explain what happened.

What the heck am I doing wrong? :-(

Could it be the program I'm trying to install or is it my memory layout?

Memory layout should be fine - looks like you have sufficient space (8MB).

What was the error message?


Si

P.S. Try installing from the command line so you get a message
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 12:04:22 pm
Quote
P.S. Try installing from the command line so you get a message
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128971\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Code: [Select]
ipkg install epdfview_0.1.2-r1_arm.ipk
Installing epdfview (0.1.2-r1) to root...
Nothing to be done
An error occurred, return value 1.
Collected errors:
ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for epdfview

             poppler (>= 0.5.1)

So... I downloaded that and tried that and it now works so I'm a happy bunny. It's cool to have a pdf viewer :-) But I'll say it's not a very good one :-( A bit slow and cumbersome. Any better that anyone knows about?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Mahoro on May 30, 2006, 04:45:40 pm
Problem solved    
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 30, 2006, 06:40:08 pm
lol, sort of.

Any ideas about the purple in abiword?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 31, 2006, 02:51:13 am
I'm curious about this memory resizing and it's effects.

When I resized the memory, using the cacko flash resizer, to 121mb the max, these are the results:

Code: [Select]
System Memory
Free Memory: 1.0mb
Total 60.0mb

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 61.3mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

However, when I used the NAND restore to get the default memory allocation back I got these results:

Code: [Select]
System Memory
Free Memory: 2.0mb
Total 60.0mb

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 39.4mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

If you look at the Internal Flash designated as /home that drops from 61.3mb of free space to only 39.4mb of free space straight after flashing.

The questions I have are:

1) Anyone know where this extra space has gone?
2) Anyone know if there is a bad reason why I shouldn't reflash it to the 121mb max flash resize to get the extra space back?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on May 31, 2006, 04:49:38 am
Quote
I'm curious about this memory resizing and it's effects.

When I resized the memory, using the cacko flash resizer, to 121mb the max, these are the results:

Code: [Select]
System Memory
Free Memory: 1.0mb
Total 60.0mb

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 61.3mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

That's not really a 120Mb rootfs but rather looks like a default Sharp / OZ partitioning.

Quote
However, when I used the NAND restore to get the default memory allocation back I got these results:

Code: [Select]
System Memory
Free Memory: 2.0mb
Total 60.0mb

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 8.1mb
Total 58.0mb, Mounted at /

Internal Flash
Free Memory: 39.4mb
Total 63.0mb, Mounted at /home

If you look at the Internal Flash designated as /home that drops from 61.3mb of free space to only 39.4mb of free space straight after flashing.

The questions I have are:

1) Anyone know where this extra space has gone?
2) Anyone know if there is a bad reason why I shouldn't reflash it to the 121mb max flash resize to get the extra space back?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129089\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Most probably the NAND backup you have used has some Sharp ROM stuff installed in /home.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 31, 2006, 11:49:54 am
Thanks

How should the memory split look for optimal useability?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 31, 2006, 04:57:04 pm
The word docs I editted using abiword and excel docs I editted using gnumeric from my FAT formatted CF card won't save back onto the CF card, I get access denied errors. :-(

Oh and if I leave it suspended for a long time, it resets itself and I lose everything that was in memory when it was suspended.

Any ideas?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: adf on May 31, 2006, 05:02:08 pm
Quote
The word docs I editted using abiword and excel docs I editted using gnumeric from my FAT formatted CF card won't save back onto the CF card, I get access denied errors. :-(

Oh and if I leave it suspended for a long time, it resets itself and I lose everything that was in memory when it was suspended.

Any ideas?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129196\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
FAT sometimes give problems with permissions.  try saving 'em as root
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on May 31, 2006, 06:06:47 pm
Quote
FAT sometimes give problems with permissions.  try saving 'em as root
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129197\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

how? Do you have to run the program as root? if so, how?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: adf on May 31, 2006, 06:21:33 pm
Quote
Quote
FAT sometimes give problems with permissions.  try saving 'em as root
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129197\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

how? Do you have to run the program as root? if so, how?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129205\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
 running as root would be one way.  saving elsewhere, then moving the file as root might be another.  you might be able to do a chown on the mounted partition.  It maybe that i am wrong about the permissions issue.  Try running as root and see...
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Mahoro on May 31, 2006, 08:11:04 pm
BTW, the msn on gaim isn't working on me,
Does anyone suffer from this problem?

I installed the protocol for MSN(as well as yahoo oscar[for ICQ, AIM] which turn out to be working)
However, for the MSN, it just constantly having a prompt saying SSL is missing.
While I tried to installed numours ssl libraries, such as
libgunutls,
libssl
libgaim-ssl
...................

The dir /usr/lib/gaim already equiped w/ ssl libraries..
ssl-gnutls.so
ssl-nss.so
ssl.so

yet, is still not working.....  
Did a few hours of digging in libraries and search in forums but still no lucks...  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 03, 2006, 05:45:19 am
When you find a bug... like... the system resetting after it's been in suspend for over an hour... is that a GPE bug, a Hentges bug or an OZ bug? And where should it be reported?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 06, 2006, 04:24:50 am
Quote
When you find a bug... like... the system resetting after it's been in suspend for over an hour... is that a GPE bug, a Hentges bug or an OZ bug? And where should it be reported?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=129585\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That would be a kernel bug -> OZ bugtracker.

However, I have yet to encounter the problem you describe. Works fine for me
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 06, 2006, 08:26:41 am
Quote
However, I have yet to encounter the problem you describe. Works fine for me
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130012\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks.

This reset bug seems to happen to me every time it's in suspend for over an hour.

I'm wondering if the fact I've a CF and SD at the same time or am unsure of the memory mapping that's causing this error.

All things considered. I go love GPE :-)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 06, 2006, 09:08:02 am
About using wifi cf card with OZ ... I'm using a XI-825 cf card which uses a prism 2.5 chipset. It gets detected as a Sandisk Connect card and seems to connect to my notebook in ad-hoc mode.

Question:
1. How do I verify that its connected correctly? I cannot ping the notebook using the notebook ip.
2. I have the wifi in my notebook setup to share its internet connection via the LAN port. When I fix #1 above, I should be able to connect to internet already right?

I'm using Windows XP on my notebook.

I am running OZ/GPE Hentges 3.5.4.1 with cardfs on collie to trial it before moving my akita over.

Ideas?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 06, 2006, 11:16:17 am
Quote
Quote
However, I have yet to encounter the problem you describe. Works fine for me
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130012\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks.

This reset bug seems to happen to me every time it's in suspend for over an hour.

My Akita is usually suspended and on AC at home. No problems with resume so far.

Quote
I'm wondering if the fact I've a CF and SD at the same time or am unsure of the memory mapping that's causing this error.

FWIW I've never used a SD card on Akita yet, and very rarely suspend w/ a CF storage card inserted.

Quote
All things considered. I go love GPE :-)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130056\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

So do I
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 06, 2006, 11:35:24 am
I've been hacking on Akita/GPE again the last several days:

1. Backlight Off on lid-close is the default now
2. APM suspend on lid-close (and other stuff) can be configured using hentges-setup.sh from a console
3. The Z now plays a low-volume beep before entering APM suspend and after APM resume (can be disabled w/ hentges-setup.sh)
4. Fn+[Left|Right]Arrow switch to the VT from within X  
5. Fn+Esc in gpe-login (and only there) terminate X and drops you to a VT

1, 4 and 5 were pushed into OZ

A new image will be available in ~6-8 hours (boy, my uplink stinks)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 06, 2006, 12:23:57 pm
These are suspends on battery with the SD and CF card inserted. After about a long period of suspend, say an hour or so, the whole unit seems to reset and I'm back at the log in prompt.

Perhaps there is a glitch somewhere in the suspend when it's on battery?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 06, 2006, 12:24:48 pm
Where is ALT btw? haven't found it yet :-P
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 06, 2006, 01:17:36 pm
Quote
Where is ALT btw? haven't found it yet :-P
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130081\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hmm, IIRC Alt is the japanese key to the right of Ctrl. Don't have the Z w/ me to check ATM.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 06, 2006, 09:40:05 pm
So new image is up?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 07, 2006, 04:52:01 am
Quote
So new image is up?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130169\")

[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/Akita/]Yes it is [/url]  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 07, 2006, 06:38:50 am
Quote
Quote
So new image is up?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130169\")

[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/Akita/]Yes it is [/url]  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130198\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I forgot to mention that Akita now features a bare-bone samba server.
Should make managing files a little bit easier  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 07, 2006, 06:41:23 am
Nice!

Downloaded ... gonna try it soon ... Cacko just refuse to work with my prism2.5 card (generic XI-825). grrrr
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 07, 2006, 08:50:49 am
EDIT: the earlier version of oz/gpe worked for awhile earlier after flashing. I managed to use my xi-825 to get online via adhoc wifi.  Seeing firefox run on Akita is really cool!  ... then it started bumming me out to logon screen.

hmmm ... just tried the new binaries ... I am getting directory errors after "Waiting for /dev to be fully populated"

OZ/GPE ... trying out oz/opie right now ...

EDIT: btw, what am I supposed to do with "modules-2.6.16-akita.tgz"?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 07, 2006, 09:01:49 am
Quote
EDIT: the earlier version of oz/gpe worked for awhile earlier after flashing. I managed to use my xi-825 to get online via adhoc wifi.  Seeing firefox run on Akita is really cool!  ... then it started bumming me out to logon screen.

hmmm ... just tried the new binaries ... I am getting directory errors after "Waiting for /dev to be fully populated"

OZ/GPE ... trying out oz/opie right now ...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130235\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Make sure your partitioning is the Sharp default.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 07, 2006, 09:08:16 am
I'm using 64-64. Is that the Sharp default?

oh, btw the beeping ... I like that!
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 07, 2006, 09:12:59 am
Quote
I'm using 64-64. Is that the Sharp default?

Not exactly (http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Misc/essential-to-boot+wifi.jpg)

Quote
oh, btw the beeping ... I like that!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130238\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That was the idea of someone on IRC  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 07, 2006, 01:41:06 pm
Quote
Quote
I'm using 64-64. Is that the Sharp default?

Not exactly (http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Misc/essential-to-boot+wifi.jpg)

Not quite sure what the link tells, what is the exact sharp default?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 07, 2006, 03:14:46 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
I'm using 64-64. Is that the Sharp default?

Not exactly (http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Misc/essential-to-boot+wifi.jpg)

Not quite sure what the link tells, what is the exact sharp default?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130281\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

The link shows a default Sharp partitioning. If you have messed with the partitions in the past, a nand restore to a sharp ROM will restore the partitions,.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 08, 2006, 05:27:08 am
Quote
The link shows a default Sharp partitioning. If you have messed with the partitions in the past, a nand restore to a sharp ROM will restore the partitions,.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130290\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you install OZ over a sharp ROM, doesn't some rubbish from the sharp rom get left on the flash somewhere?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 08, 2006, 05:55:17 am
Quote
Quote
The link shows a default Sharp partitioning. If you have messed with the partitions in the past, a nand restore to a sharp ROM will restore the partitions,.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130290\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you install OZ over a sharp ROM, doesn't some rubbish from the sharp rom get left on the flash somewhere?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130374\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

rm -rf /home/* will take care of that
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 08, 2006, 06:13:04 am
FYI: RC6 is the last RC before the final version. The remaining problems will get fixed via the "upgrades" feed.

If you see any serious problems with this image, please let me know.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 08, 2006, 09:51:42 am
Quote
FYI: RC6 is the last RC before the final version. The remaining problems will get fixed via the "upgrades" feed.

If you see any serious problems with this image, please let me know.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130381\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hi, sorry to sound dense, I'm still new to OZ and how it works, what's the "upgrades" feed and how do you apply things from there, am assuming there are instructions somewhere?

I'll update to the latest image at the weekend and see if the suspend error I mentioned earlier happens again.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 08, 2006, 11:59:20 am
Quote
Quote
FYI: RC6 is the last RC before the final version. The remaining problems will get fixed via the "upgrades" feed.

If you see any serious problems with this image, please let me know.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130381\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hi, sorry to sound dense, I'm still new to OZ and how it works, what's the "upgrades" feed and how do you apply things from there, am assuming there are instructions somewhere?

I'll update to the latest image at the weekend and see if the suspend error I mentioned earlier happens again.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130401\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

The upgrade feed is a special ipkg feed in which..errr..upgraded packages (ie: bugfixes) are placed. They can be installed with "ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade"
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 08, 2006, 08:56:38 pm
so ... => upgrade feed allows OZ/hentges to be updated via a ipk package instead of having to reflash. Am I right?

EDIT:

So far I've tried out the newer oz/gpe hentges rom and its pretty good. Fast, reliable and does most of what I need/want.

I believe the earlier restarting issue could be a one off case, but I would need to retest to verify.

About the partition and Sharp default partitions, can oz or hentges run some scripts before hand to repart the internal storage correctly if so required? That may help resolve some of the instability issues if incorrect partition sizes is the cause of it.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 09, 2006, 04:07:31 am
Quote
The upgrade feed is a special ipkg feed in which..errr..upgraded packages (ie: bugfixes) are placed. They can be installed with "ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade"
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130412\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

And this requires having the Z connected to the net? And it knows where the feed is?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 09, 2006, 04:09:30 am
Quote
About the partition and Sharp default partitions, can oz or hentges run some scripts before hand to repart the internal storage correctly if so required? That may help resolve some of the instability issues if incorrect partition sizes is the cause of it.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130467\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If that's possible, that would be a great idea, cause it would also clear away any rubbish left behind by any other installs :-)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 09, 2006, 02:35:03 pm
Quote
Quote
The upgrade feed is a special ipkg feed in which..errr..upgraded packages (ie: bugfixes) are placed. They can be installed with "ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade"
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130412\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

And this requires having the Z connected to the net? And it knows where the feed is?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130493\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes an internet connection is required. The feed is already configured. Hentges uses the same "upgrades" feed than OZ 3.5.4.*
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 09, 2006, 02:44:55 pm
Quote
Quote
About the partition and Sharp default partitions, can oz or hentges run some scripts before hand to repart the internal storage correctly if so required? That may help resolve some of the instability issues if incorrect partition sizes is the cause of it.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130467\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If that's possible, that would be a great idea, cause it would also clear away any rubbish left behind by any other installs :-)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130494\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Repartitioning the flash would have to be done with updater.sh just like pdaXrom does it (or so I hear).  I had a look at (OZ's) updater.sh in the past and it wasn't a lovely sight  

I would rather not touch this script in its current form....

One way for OZ to work around the partitioning issues experienced by users coming from pdaXrom (and probably others) would be to rework the script to simply "format" the root partition and tar -xzf a rootfs tarball into it. With this method the partition sizes wouldn't matter at all as long as the root partition is large enough.

I don't even know if it could be done this way in a stable way but I guess it would be possible.

As for "wiping old stuff" from the image on a reflash this would basically mean rm -rf /home/* and would be trivial to implement during first-boot after flashing.

Hentges already allows you to remove old Opie or GPE settings from /home/$USER which I thought was enough, but yeah you have a point and I'll look into it.

It probably won't make it into the final "T1" release tho.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 09, 2006, 08:16:35 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
About the partition and Sharp default partitions, can oz or hentges run some scripts before hand to repart the internal storage correctly if so required? That may help resolve some of the instability issues if incorrect partition sizes is the cause of it.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130467\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If that's possible, that would be a great idea, cause it would also clear away any rubbish left behind by any other installs :-)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130494\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Repartitioning the flash would have to be done with updater.sh just like pdaXrom does it (or so I hear).  I had a look at (OZ's) updater.sh in the past and it wasn't a lovely sight  

I would rather not touch this script in its current form....

One way for OZ to work around the partitioning issues experienced by users coming from pdaXrom (and probably others) would be to rework the script to simply "format" the root partition and tar -xzf a rootfs tarball into it. With this method the partition sizes wouldn't matter at all as long as the root partition is large enough.

I don't even know if it could be done this way in a stable way but I guess it would be possible.

As for "wiping old stuff" from the image on a reflash this would basically mean rm -rf /home/* and would be trivial to implement during first-boot after flashing.

Hentges already allows you to remove old Opie or GPE settings from /home/$USER which I thought was enough, but yeah you have a point and I'll look into it.

It probably won't make it into the final "T1" release tho.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130582\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

CoreDump, is the original updater.sh script available somewhere? I'll be happy to help 'clean' it up. Granted, I may need someone to compile it to binary later on as I have no idea (at the moment) on how to get it done.

And thanks for all the great work! About the changes making to T1, I'm already grateful that you are taking the time for all the hard work!  So cheers!
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 10, 2006, 06:39:09 am
Quote
CoreDump, is the original updater.sh script available somewhere? I'll be happy to help 'clean' it up. Granted, I may need someone to compile it to binary later on as I have no idea (at the moment) on how to get it done.

And thanks for all the great work! About the changes making to T1, I'm already grateful that you are taking the time for all the hard work!  So cheers!
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130620\")
The script is available [a href=\"http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/zaurus-updater/akita/]from here[/url]
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 10, 2006, 11:50:03 am
tried the new image and had an error

Code: [Select]
Configuring update-modules
depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.20/modules.dep for writing

This is after flashing it over a trisoft NAND backup.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 15, 2006, 11:11:17 am
just checking if anyone knows how this is going?

Have gone back to the earlier version, still loving it, can't wait for the stable version.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 15, 2006, 08:46:44 pm
Quote
Quote
CoreDump, is the original updater.sh script available somewhere? I'll be happy to help 'clean' it up. Granted, I may need someone to compile it to binary later on as I have no idea (at the moment) on how to get it done.

And thanks for all the great work! About the changes making to T1, I'm already grateful that you are taking the time for all the hard work!  So cheers!
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130620\")
The script is available [a href=\"http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/zaurus-updater/akita/]from here[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130641\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Coredump, thanks and I ran through the script ... and ... I dunno if I'm used to messy code or if the script is already pretty structured  ... but the only changes I did so far is to reindent some part of the main loop.

See the attached updater.sh.

Potentially, we could insert a query at the start before the actually flashing to ask if the user wants to 1) Repartition the flash or 2) clean out the user part or 3) Both.

We could have a recommended partition option or a custom partition option.

I'll sound off the Cacko or pdaXrom folks to see if I could "borrow" some of the updater.sh script to give oz flashing some simple menu options.

Comments?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 16, 2006, 02:09:38 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
CoreDump, is the original updater.sh script available somewhere? I'll be happy to help 'clean' it up. Granted, I may need someone to compile it to binary later on as I have no idea (at the moment) on how to get it done.

And thanks for all the great work! About the changes making to T1, I'm already grateful that you are taking the time for all the hard work!  So cheers!
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=130620\")
The script is available [a href=\"http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/zaurus-updater/akita/]from here[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130641\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Coredump, thanks and I ran through the script ... and ... I dunno if I'm used to messy code or if the script is already pretty structured  ... but the only changes I did so far is to reindent some part of the main loop.

See the attached updater.sh.

Potentially, we could insert a query at the start before the actually flashing to ask if the user wants to 1) Repartition the flash or 2) clean out the user part or 3) Both.

We could have a recommended partition option or a custom partition option.

I'll sound off the Cacko or pdaXrom folks to see if I could "borrow" some of the updater.sh script to give oz flashing some simple menu options.

Comments?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131339\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

That would be nice. Please keep in mind that the current flashing process breaks horribly if you repartition the flash drive. You'd need to account for that.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 16, 2006, 12:07:21 pm
Quote
tried the new image and had an error

Code: [Select]
Configuring update-modules
depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.20/modules.dep for writing

This is after flashing it over a trisoft NAND backup.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130660\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Tried this again, redownloaded everything, but still doesn't work on my C1000. Any ideas anyone?

Thanks
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 16, 2006, 12:17:11 pm
ok, this is odd, I just rebooted and it's going on about me running the wrong kernel. 2.4.20 instead of 2.6.16-3.5.4.1-rc4

It's odd cause I downloaded the zImage file from the link earlier in the post.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 17, 2006, 12:47:49 am
Quote
ok, this is odd, I just rebooted and it's going on about me running the wrong kernel. 2.4.20 instead of 2.6.16-3.5.4.1-rc4

It's odd cause I downloaded the zImage file from the link earlier in the post.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131395\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

For some reason you are still running the Trisoft 2.4 kernel.
Please make sure the naming of zImage.bin is correct when you try to flash it.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 17, 2006, 06:31:53 am
Fantastic! It works :-)

Any idea why abiword is purple in places, it looks a bit odd.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 17, 2006, 07:07:50 am
Quote
rm -rf /home/* will take care of that
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130379\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

When are you meant to do this? There isn't a point during the flashing where you're left with a prompt and when you're in GPE it's access denied and would probably overwrite some GPE things.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 17, 2006, 07:12:21 am
gpdf keeps quitting as you attempt to open any pdf
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Greg2 on June 17, 2006, 08:42:15 am
Quote
Quote
rm -rf /home/* will take care of that
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130379\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

When are you meant to do this? There isn't a point during the flashing where you're left with a prompt and when you're in GPE it's access denied and would probably overwrite some GPE things.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131465\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Just do it before you flash.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Greg2 on June 17, 2006, 08:46:14 am
Quote
gpdf keeps quitting as you attempt to open any pdf
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131466\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Open gpdf from the terminal, then open a pdf file... post the error you have here.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 17, 2006, 12:55:52 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
rm -rf /home/* will take care of that
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130379\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

When are you meant to do this? There isn't a point during the flashing where you're left with a prompt and when you're in GPE it's access denied and would probably overwrite some GPE things.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131465\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Just do it before you flash.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131470\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

So I do it from a terminal within qtopia?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 17, 2006, 05:11:30 pm
Quote
Quote
gpdf keeps quitting as you attempt to open any pdf
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131466\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Open gpdf from the terminal, then open a pdf file... post the error you have here.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131471\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Funny

opening gpdf from the terminal and then opening a pdf, it runs.

opening qpdf from the icon and then opening a pdf, it quits unexpectedly.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 18, 2006, 05:04:02 am
OK, this a big error.

I had my Z unplugged from the mains. I had logged out (I was aiming for suspend in the menu and missed) and then suspended it using the button.

It main the usual beep and went into suspend. I closed the clamshell and went to bed.

Next day, I turn it on. Log it in. It asks me for my timezone, welcomes me to GPE and everything is reset back to the defaults. Weird or what.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 18, 2006, 07:22:37 am
Quote
OK, this a big error.

I had my Z unplugged from the mains. I had logged out (I was aiming for suspend in the menu and missed) and then suspended it using the button.

It main the usual beep and went into suspend. I closed the clamshell and went to bed.

Next day, I turn it on. Log it in. It asks me for my timezone, welcomes me to GPE and everything is reset back to the defaults. Weird or what.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131631\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Interesting indeed. Never had that happen here. Did you mess w/ ~/.gpe and / or ~/.matchbox before logging out?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 18, 2006, 07:23:56 am
Just a small status update:

Since 3.5.4.1-final is going to be released in a few days, I'll wait for it before releasing Hentges T1.
That makes feed-handling  bit easier.

Also someone asked for Spitz images. Since Spitz is pretty much identical to Akita, I'll compile the image for testing. I don't expect any problems since Akita is already working very well.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 18, 2006, 09:15:54 am
Quote
Interesting indeed. Never had that happen here. Did you mess w/ ~/.gpe and / or ~/.matchbox before logging out?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131647\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

no, wouldn't know how
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 18, 2006, 10:36:32 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
gpdf keeps quitting as you attempt to open any pdf
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131466\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Open gpdf from the terminal, then open a pdf file... post the error you have here.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131471\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Funny

opening gpdf from the terminal and then opening a pdf, it runs.

opening qpdf from the icon and then opening a pdf, it quits unexpectedly.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131529\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Just a wild thought ... is your console/terminal running as root? How about qpdf?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 19, 2006, 05:54:28 am
Quote
Just a wild thought ... is your console/terminal running as root? How about qpdf?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131765\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

used the standard terminal icon, not the run as root one, so I guess not. How would I tell?

I have no idea how to check if opening pdf from the icon runs it as root or not.

Sorry being dense, but still new to this.

Is there a big giant manual for GPE somewhere?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 19, 2006, 08:29:20 pm
Quote
used the standard terminal icon, not the run as root one, so I guess not. How would I tell?

I have no idea how to check if opening pdf from the icon runs it as root or not.

Sorry being dense, but still new to this.

Is there a big giant manual for GPE somewhere?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131811\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is the terminal prompt a "#" or a "$" ... scratch that ... this only applies to Cacko/sharp and pdaXrom ... on OZ/GPE ... there are two separate icons for Terminal and Root Shell ...

Further, when the Root Shell appears ... the prompt is root@XYX:/home/ABC# so you should be in user mode ... hmmm ....
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: lardman on June 20, 2006, 06:33:10 am
Quote
Further, when the Root Shell appears ... the prompt is root@XYX:/home/ABC# so you should be in user mode ... hmmm ....

What do you mean? The # indicates that you are running as root (as does the root@ bit)...


Si
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 20, 2006, 07:08:16 am
Quote
Quote
Further, when the Root Shell appears ... the prompt is root@XYX:/home/ABC# so you should be in user mode ... hmmm ....

What do you mean? The # indicates that you are running as root (as does the root@ bit)...


Si
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131981\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

yes, you are right ... I also wanted to highlight that in gpe, the prompt itself is self-explainatory.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on June 20, 2006, 08:59:37 am
I've attached two screenshots.

The first one, fails.png this is what happens if I tap on the icon for gpdf to open the application and then try and open a pdf from within gpdf. I don't know how to get error information for this.

The second one, works.png is what happens if I open gpdf from a terminal. The pdfs open successfully within gpdf, despite all the text that the terminal throws up.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: lardman on June 20, 2006, 10:27:14 am
Try opening from the icon, then go to system information > log display > session log and see if there's anything there. There's obviously some difference in the environment between launching from the GUI & the terminal.


Si
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 20, 2006, 04:46:17 pm
Will this ROM also work for the 3200 model?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: lardman on June 21, 2006, 06:04:03 am
I don't think there's a hentges version, but the standard OpenZaurus images are close, and I think these should be available.


Simon
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 21, 2006, 07:50:39 am
Quote
I don't think there's a hentges version, but the standard OpenZaurus images are close, and I think these should be available.


Simon
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132149\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'm in the process of prepping a spitz image (ie: SL-C3x00). As it is almost identical to Akita that should work out fine.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 21, 2006, 08:01:17 am
Quote
I'm in the process of prepping a spitz image (ie: SL-C3x00). As it is almost identical to Akita that should work out fine.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132161\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hi CoreDump - thanks for doing this!

Just out of interest, if I mounted both the gpe & opie images via a loopback device, and merged the files, then repackaged it all up via dd, would this be an easy way of getting both opie & gpe running at the same time?

I realise I'd need to run opie on a different VT to gpe, of course.

I did try doing a similar thing to this with the altboot ext2 images for the collie (ie merging the opie & gpe ext2 images), but I guess I'm not clever enough, because gpe wouldn't load up completely (I'd just get the X but no gpe welcome screen or login).

I know this is greedy having both opie & gpe, but there are some apps that run under opie which I still really like, especially ones which run with the compat libs

Cheers,

zedkatuf.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on June 21, 2006, 08:02:56 am
Quote
Quote
I'm in the process of prepping a spitz image (ie: SL-C3x00). As it is almost identical to Akita that should work out fine.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132161\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hi CoreDump - thanks for doing this!

Just out of interest, if I mounted both the gpe & opie images via a loopback device, and merged the files, then repackaged it all up via dd, would this be an easy way of getting both opie & gpe running at the same time?

I realise I'd need to run opie on a different VT to gpe, of course.

I did try doing a similar thing to this with the altboot ext2 images for the collie (ie merging the opie & gpe ext2 images), but I guess I'm not clever enough, because gpe wouldn't load up completely (I'd just get the X but no gpe welcome screen or login).

I know this is greedy having both opie & gpe, but there are some apps that run under opie which I still really like, especially ones which run with the compat libs

Cheers,

zedkatuf.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132165\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

In theory that should work, yes.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 21, 2006, 08:05:44 am
Quote
In theory that should work, yes.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132166\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

OK, I might give it a go once the spitz initrd's are up.

I might have to ask you how to do the mount command, unless I'm especially un-lazy & search for the command paramaters myself  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 22, 2006, 02:37:15 pm
Quote
I might have to ask you how to do the mount command, unless I'm especially un-lazy & search for the command paramaters myself 
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=132167\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

NOTE to self (after CoreDump helped out on IRC  ):

How to mount a jffs2 image file:
 jffs2 muste be compiled into the kernel
 blkmtd must be compiled as module

cd to directory where initrd.bin exists &

AS ROOT:

 losetup /dev/loop2 initrd.bin
 modprobe blkmtd device=/dev/loop2
 mkdir /dev/mtdblock
 cd /dev/mtdblock
 mknod 0 b 31 0
 mkdir /mnt/iso_disk
 mount -t jffs2 /dev/mtdblock/0 /mnt/iso_disk


..then copy the files in /mnt/iso_disk to a suitable directory (eg opie_files ), unmount it rmmod blkmtd & then start again with the new initrd.bin file corresponding to gpe & finally copy those files into a directory named gpe_files.

...I *was* going to re-create the initrd.bin combining both gpe & opie, but CoreDump reckons that this will be too big for the Zaurus to take.  So instead, I might merge the gpe files, copying over the differences, and manually hack some scripts.

ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION (which may or may not work!):

 - just use the gpe image & then once it's all up & running, simply do:

ipkg install opie

(& some other opie stuff I guess - not sure what yet).

This latter approach might be much simpler in the long run - not sure yet

...this all for an sl-3200 (terrier) BTW, hence no need to install to sd
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on June 30, 2006, 11:25:49 pm
Quote
Quote
rm -rf /home/* will take care of that
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=130379\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

When are you meant to do this? There isn't a point during the flashing where you're left with a prompt and when you're in GPE it's access denied and would probably overwrite some GPE things.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131465\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

This is with reference to cleaning up the home partition I think during flashing. It should be done before the flashing I think or by the update.sh script.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 04, 2006, 03:00:19 am
Here's a preview of what T2 is going to offer:

A native VNC server
[img]http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/x11vnc-helper.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

The Fluxbox window manager and toolbar.
[img]http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/fluxbox01.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

[img]http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/fluxbox00.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

[img]http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/sonar.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

Fluxbox allows virtual desktops, and (finally!) easy access to minimized windows.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Snappy on July 04, 2006, 03:03:38 am
hey CoreDump ... nice screen shots! VNC helper ... that's cool!

btw, any updates about Chinese inputs?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Meanie on July 04, 2006, 03:21:36 am
woohoo fluxbox, my favourite vm
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 04, 2006, 06:19:16 am
Quote
hey CoreDump ... nice screen shots! VNC helper ... that's cool!

btw, any updates about Chinese inputs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133847\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I believe someone was working on chinese input / output for Opie. Dunno the status of that and no idea if chinese I/O is supported on GPE / X11
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Meanie on July 04, 2006, 06:44:17 am
Quote
Quote
hey CoreDump ... nice screen shots! VNC helper ... that's cool!

btw, any updates about Chinese inputs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133847\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I believe someone was working on chinese input / output for Opie. Dunno the status of that and no idea if chinese I/O is supported on GPE / X11
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133856\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

that should be quite easy in GPE as long as the X server has been compiled with UTF8 support. there are several input servers like canna or scim. just need to compile and install one of them and install some unicode fonts that contain the complete or at least required charsets. you will also need an appropriate locale if you want to localise the menus as well.

i almost forgot, QT and KDE also need to be compiled with UTF8 support and the appropriate font codecs in order to support chinese/japanese
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: zedkatuf2 on July 05, 2006, 02:41:20 am
Quote
Here's a preview of what T2 is going to offer:

Fluxbox allows virtual desktops, and (finally!) easy access to minimized windows.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133846\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Hi CoreDump - Does this mean you have the fluxbox window-minimization bug sorted?  If so, is there a pace where I can dnload the newer version?

Cheers,

zedkatuf
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 06, 2006, 03:12:32 am
Quote
Quote
Here's a preview of what T2 is going to offer:

Fluxbox allows virtual desktops, and (finally!) easy access to minimized windows.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=133846\")


Hi CoreDump - Does this mean you have the fluxbox window-minimization bug sorted?  If so, is there a pace where I can dnload the newer version?

Cheers,

zedkatuf
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133963\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes, minimized windows are handled even better than with matchbox-wm (IMO)

A new RC (T2-RC1) GPE-only for SL-Cxx00 is uploading currently.

The changes over T1 are:

- fluxbox windowmanager instead of matchbox wm
- xscreensaver (sonar and a few others, [a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/sonar.jpg]sonar[/url] beeing the default)
- A new simple setup-wizzard after first-boot
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 06, 2006, 11:46:59 am
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

Fn+Menu brings up the Fluxbox root menu
Fn+Home minimizes the current window
Home switches through all open windows
Alt+r reloads the fluxbox config

Happy flashing
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: McChubby on July 06, 2006, 02:39:58 pm
Quote
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

<snip>

Happy flashing
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134143\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
BRILLIANT - saves me a job . . . However . . .

I've just tried installing (twice) on a C3200 and both times I get the standard GPE (matchbox) WM, and I cannot see fluxbox or sonar installed.  I get the new OpenZaurus bootsplash, followed by the OE (Hentges) screen, so it definitely installed, and I "ok" the question about deleting prefs in /home/*.

Now I could be going mad, but it doesn't seem to work.

Eek   .
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 06, 2006, 11:01:03 pm
Quote
Quote
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

<snip>

Happy flashing
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134143\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
BRILLIANT - saves me a job . . . However . . .

I've just tried installing (twice) on a C3200 and both times I get the standard GPE (matchbox) WM, and I cannot see fluxbox or sonar installed.  I get the new OpenZaurus bootsplash, followed by the OE (Hentges) screen, so it definitely installed, and I "ok" the question about deleting prefs in /home/*.

Now I could be going mad, but it doesn't seem to work.

Eek   .
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134162\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Err oops. Looks like I disabled rebuilding the "Packages" file after making changes. I do this a lot to safe (quite a bit of) time on image-rebuilds. However, if you change dependencies they are  not beeing picked up in that case. Rebuilding...
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on July 07, 2006, 11:08:57 am
Quote
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

Fn+Menu brings up the Fluxbox root menu
Fn+Home minimizes the current window
Home switches through all open windows
Alt+r reloads the fluxbox config

Happy flashing
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134143\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is the alt button bug fixed?
which is the alt button?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on July 07, 2006, 11:14:17 am
Quote
Quote
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

Fn+Menu brings up the Fluxbox root menu
Fn+Home minimizes the current window
Home switches through all open windows
Alt+r reloads the fluxbox config

Happy flashing
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134143\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is the alt button bug fixed?
which is the alt button?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134239\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

like on a normal keyboard: ctrl - alt - space
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 07, 2006, 11:54:15 am
Quote
Quote
The image is now online (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/).

Fn+Menu brings up the Fluxbox root menu
Fn+Home minimizes the current window
Home switches through all open windows
Alt+r reloads the fluxbox config

Happy flashing
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134143\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is the alt button bug fixed?
which is the alt button?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134239\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes, menu-navigation using Alt appears to work fine now.

Alt is the japenese key to the right of Ctrl
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: jerrybme on July 07, 2006, 04:34:45 pm
Quote
Err oops. Looks like I disabled rebuilding the "Packages" file after making changes. I do this a lot to safe (quite a bit of) time on image-rebuilds. However, if you change dependencies they are  not beeing picked up in that case. Rebuilding...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134192\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

The spitz directory is still empty. Was there a problem building the spitz version or just takes that long to build?

I like your idea of using fluxbox

I'm eager to try it out.

Cheers
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: CoreDump on July 08, 2006, 03:02:17 am
No, I didn't update the meta-data for spitz on the first try, and failed to copy the correct files on the second try  

Anyway, the image is (finally) online.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: McChubby on July 08, 2006, 06:29:55 am
Quote
No, I didn't update the meta-data for spitz on the first try, and failed to copy the correct files on the second try   

Anyway, the image is (finally) online.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134301\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Excellent - just installed it, and it all works as expected.  Thanks.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on July 08, 2006, 07:31:42 pm
Hiya

Love the new release works really well!

Really like the way the new logo and the elements boot up in the bar like in a desktop distro.

Couple of thoughts for the next release.

The start up questions are in a very odd order and some should have yes/no questions not ok/cancel ones. Might need a little rejigging there.

I like the new bar at the top, is there any way to have things minimise to the bar at the bottom like in desktops?

Could we have some more standard windows fonts, arial, times new, etc?

Is abiword capable of opening opendocs?
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on July 09, 2006, 03:48:57 am
Quote
Is abiword capable of opening opendocs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134374\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you have installed abiword-plugins, it should be.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on July 09, 2006, 06:15:15 am
Quote
Quote
Is abiword capable of opening opendocs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134374\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you have installed abiword-plugins, it should be.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134403\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is that an ipk in the feeds?  
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: koen on July 09, 2006, 06:20:43 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
Is abiword capable of opening opendocs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134374\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you have installed abiword-plugins, it should be.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134403\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is that an ipk in the feeds?  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134410\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it should be a matter of 'ipkg install abiword-plugins'. I'm not sure if hrw added the glib-2.0 fix to the .oz354x release branch to make them work properly, though.
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: omro on July 09, 2006, 08:04:07 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Is abiword capable of opening opendocs?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134374\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

If you have installed abiword-plugins, it should be.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134403\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Is that an ipk in the feeds?  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134410\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it should be a matter of 'ipkg install abiword-plugins'. I'm not sure if hrw added the glib-2.0 fix to the .oz354x release branch to make them work properly, though.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=134411\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I shall give it a try when next I have a moment thanks :-)
Title: New: Hentges Rom Rc For Akita
Post by: Hrw on July 10, 2006, 02:15:51 am
glib-2.0 fix is in IIRC

And about Microsoft fonts - we cannot distribute them.