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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 12:28:14 am
YEP!

I went to fry's and purchased a few 1gb and a mini 2gb and also a 2gb patriot.  The only one i tried was the 2gb patriot just out of curiosity and worked.  This means that there is no or some limitation to the sd cards for the zaurus. So I got greedy and wanted 18gb on my zaurus so i purchased...well i tried to purchase a 8gb compact flash(none available)4gb sd card(none available). The only thing that came out of this was a 2gb patriot sd card on my spanking new c3200.  Say.....does anybody want to try my new ipk.....2gb driver or more for your zauruses?Here it is!  It was tested by a few and they stated it works fantastic.

Use at your own risk and don't come crying to me if it breaks your z.
the c3200 does not need it because it already has updated drivers.
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View this site for sd card compatability
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/SDCompatList (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/SDCompatList)
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models supported
c-1000
c-3000
c-3100
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Rom supported
sharprom
cacko 1.23

There are two sd drivers now.  The first one which I slaped together only replaces a link to where the original driver stays. The tetsu driver improves upon the older driver by adding a script. tetsu added postinst and postrm scripts to the new version.  Uninstalling my old ipk would most likely make your zaurus sd drive not operational unless you do a hard reset or most likely a nand restore.  NOthing wrong with my driver.  The tetsu one is more correct.  Download the tetsu sd driver.  I took the old sd down just.  The original driver had 577 downloads.

2 downloads.

http://webpages.charter.net/cresho/2gb-sd-driver.zip (http://webpages.charter.net/cresho/2gb-sd-driver.zip)
http://webpages.charter.net/cresho/cd-refresh.zip (http://webpages.charter.net/cresho/cd-refresh.zip)
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: sidmoraes on March 28, 2006, 12:40:29 am
Of course!

Where can I get these?


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YEP!

I went to fry's and purchased a few 1gb and a mini 2gb and also a 2gb patriot

the only one i tried was the 2gb patriot just out of curiosity and worked.  This means that there is no limitation to the sd cards for the zaurus.

I got greedy and wanted 18gb on my zaurus so i purchased...well i tried to purchase a 8gb compact flash(none available)4gb sd card(none available).

So the only thing that came out of this was a 2gb patriot sd card on my spanking new c3200.


Say.....does anybody want to try my new ipk.....2gb driver or more for your zauruses?
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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on March 28, 2006, 01:44:40 am
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YEP!

I went to fry's and purchased a few 1gb and a mini 2gb and also a 2gb patriot

the only one i tried was the 2gb patriot just out of curiosity and worked.  This means that there is no limitation to the sd cards for the zaurus.

I got greedy and wanted 18gb on my zaurus so i purchased...well i tried to purchase a 8gb compact flash(none available)4gb sd card(none available).

So the only thing that came out of this was a 2gb patriot sd card on my spanking new c3200.


Say.....does anybody want to try my new ipk.....2gb driver or more for your zauruses?
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So does this mean the new C3200 comes with new drivers for SD?
What "Other" enhancements in (software/drivers) does the C3200 have?
I'm not referring to user software or applications, just newer drivers, ect.
Is SDIO now supported with the new SD driver?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 02:58:00 am
no clue but im slowly disecting it but that's just as far as i have gone.  ipk for driver should pop out soon as this new theme for zaurusthemes.org website is done.  Ill be converting some of the sharp ones over to cacko sooner or later.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: bam on March 28, 2006, 03:03:57 am
hmmm, seems the new zaurus has more than just the hdd upgrade.....thats good news.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on March 28, 2006, 03:51:52 am
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no clue but im slowly disecting it but that's just as far as i have gone.  ipk for driver should pop out soon as this new theme for zaurusthemes.org website is done.  Ill be converting some of the sharp ones over to cacko sooner or later.
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It would be great to have an IPK with SD card driver update.
However, please take care it fits the lower models by means of kernel version etc.

Did you try it on Sharp ROM? Which kernel version do they include with the 3200?

thanks

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 03:59:37 am
nope...just looking at files at the moment and also  Version numbers......I need to know kernal version, qtopia version you guys are on because i don't have a current sharprom on a c1000 since i sold it.  You're right...could be kernal or could be files that allowes it to see my sd card.

thanks.

ohh drat..... qtopia 1.5.4 and linux kernal 2.4.20
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on March 28, 2006, 04:23:20 am
My C3000 uses the same version as you described.
Qtopia 1.5.4, linux kernel 2.4.20
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on March 28, 2006, 04:27:22 am
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My C3000 uses the same version as you described.
Qtopia 1.5.4, linux kernel 2.4.20
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Mine too (Cacko ROM). So I'd gladly try your files!

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on March 28, 2006, 05:36:12 am
make sure you have a backup before you play with it too much.
i would recommend a nand backup and a tarball of /
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on March 28, 2006, 05:44:38 am
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make sure you have a backup before you play with it too much.
i would recommend a nand backup and a tarball of /
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  I'll first try it on my backup machine for one year or so until I install the new drivers on my main machine. The HDD1 error nightmare is something I don't want to see anymore!

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2006, 10:56:24 am
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nope...just looking at files at the moment and also  Version numbers......I need to know kernal version, qtopia version you guys are on because i don't have a current sharprom on a c1000 since i sold it.  You're right...could be kernal or could be files that allowes it to see my sd card.

thanks.

ohh drat..... qtopia 1.5.4 and linux kernal 2.4.20
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Excellent!  My C1000 is running the same version as your C3200.  I'm running Cacko 1.23.  W00T!  

Now to save up for a monster-sized SD Card.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: albertr on March 28, 2006, 12:08:07 pm
Before you find a time to pack it as an IPK, maybe you can just gzip and post /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/block/sharp_mmcsd_m.o ?
-albertr
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 12:10:52 pm
I would be glad to get some feed back.  I have a few directories in mind but would like some more feedback.  It's almost done.  Ill have an expirienced a user who has an extra 2gb has laying around to test first hand.


anybody?
by tomorrow night around 11pm and on ill have it ready.  I just cant do it now since im between schools.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 12:45:18 pm
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Before you find a time to pack it as an IPK, maybe you can just gzip and post /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/block/sharp_mmcsd_m.o ?
-albertr
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check your mail.....
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: albertr on March 28, 2006, 01:47:37 pm
Interesting... Sharp seemed to change something silently, the new driver has the same version as the old one.
-albertr
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 01:51:03 pm
hardware?  can it be hardware?  how about the sdiomanager-if it has one.

how  about sdmgr?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: sidmoraes on March 28, 2006, 02:17:32 pm
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hardware?  can it be hardware?  how about the sdiomanager-if it has one.

how  about sdmgr?
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Can you post the files somewhere?

We can compare these files and get some infos.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: DaemonsGR on March 28, 2006, 02:53:04 pm
If you need space for upload PM me
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: albertr on March 28, 2006, 03:22:37 pm
I doubt that hardware was changed. Afterall, it's the same old PXA270, right?

I would rather suspect Sharp's slopy coding techniques - they just probably forgot to bump up  the driver version.
-albertr
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 28, 2006, 03:40:19 pm
i still need someone who owns a 2 gb sd card for testing
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on March 28, 2006, 07:08:34 pm
maybe i can have a try.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on March 29, 2006, 03:14:50 am
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I doubt that hardware was changed. Afterall, it's the same old PXA270, right?

I would rather suspect Sharp's slopy coding techniques - they just probably forgot to bump up  the driver version.
-albertr
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What about a binary "diff" of the two driver modules?

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: TRIsoft on March 29, 2006, 03:57:47 am
Daniel,
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What about a binary "diff" of the two driver modules?
brilliant idea, but not really needed.

sharp_mmcsd_m.o if 67530 bytes on the SL-C3200.
The filesize on an SL-C3100 is 67418. It's different  

We'll keep you updated.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 29, 2006, 04:06:22 am
most likely ill have something up by thursday morning.  I am almost finished with the nouveXT theme for zaurusthemes.org and ill have this new sd driver ipk ready right after...  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on March 29, 2006, 09:47:22 am
This is a bit offtopic, and I hope nobody minds.
I decided to order one of these, if the driver doesn't work with a larger card.
It's at Cyberguys. (I get a catalogue, so I can mailorder it) It's only $12.99 US
http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchd...c60&child=1sc60 (http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=204+0656&dept=lch13&search=1sc60&child=1sc60)
It's a USB thumbdrive that accepts SD cards. I just thought this might be another option to someone.
When I purchase a 2 or 4 gb SD card, this will allow me to use it as a portable mass storage device.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on March 29, 2006, 10:13:00 am
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This is a bit offtopic, and I hope nobody minds.
I decided to order one of these, if the driver doesn't work with a larger card.
It's at Cyberguys. (I get a catalogue, so I can mailorder it) It's only $12.99 US
http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchd...c60&child=1sc60 (http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=204+0656&dept=lch13&search=1sc60&child=1sc60)
It's a USB thumbdrive that accepts SD cards. I just thought this might be another option to someone.
When I purchase a 2 or 4 gb SD card, this will allow me to use it as a portable mass storage device.
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Why it's so expensive? I bought one locally for about $2.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: sidmoraes on March 29, 2006, 10:29:56 am
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Daniel,
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What about a binary "diff" of the two driver modules?
brilliant idea, but not really needed.

sharp_mmcsd_m.o if 67530 bytes on the SL-C3200.
The filesize on an SL-C3100 is 67418. It's different  

We'll keep you updated.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Can you put this module in a web site ?

I realy need to test this version.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 29, 2006, 11:50:40 am
okay driver ready
ill post in 5 minutes

i added ipk.  start of this topic so go download it.

thanks chyang. ohh god on a c3000?  jee  your one lucky dude.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on March 29, 2006, 11:54:22 am
Verified on my Zaurus, 2GB card works great!
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 29, 2006, 12:11:26 pm
woops.  i screwed up on the first ipk.  made a new one and someone is testing it.

update...i added the new ipk.  Some problems i came accross was going between modules.rom and modules.  reason being is that modules.rom has the original driver while the modules carries a symlink-looks like one.  so what the installer does is overwrites the symlink.  the original driver stays as is in the modules.rom directory.  Not sure if the file system is the same on all handhelds.  But that was really my dilema.

papadon tested a few ipk's and now his sandisk 2gb works fine.  he used the ipk installer.

So there you have it folks.  ipk is at the start of this thread.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: InSearchOf on March 29, 2006, 01:05:21 pm
I think it is time to look into selling my 1 gig and getting a 2 gig'er...

Thanks Cresho for the find and ipk...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on March 29, 2006, 01:17:35 pm
Why not overwrite the original file?
Here's a screenshot of my /lib/modules.rom/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/block
(original sharp driver)
C3100 here, Cacko lite 1.23

EDIT:
BTW, thank you for uploading this.
I edited this post because I didn't want to clutter up this thread more.
EDIT2:
I noticed the symlink is the same bytesize as the original file.
Must be a hard link. (terminology correct?)
Anyway, I'll be getting a 2GB Sandisk Ultra II card at Staples today or tomorrow.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on March 31, 2006, 12:42:43 pm
I got my 2gb card today, had to order it. Local Staples was out of them.
It's a Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD card. It works as shown below in the console.
Install went fine, except for one thing. I forgot to take out my Picsel Browser card.
When I rebooted, I was getting continous error messages about IDE drive, or CF drive.
I pulled the battery and everything was fine after that.
So remember, when installing this new SD driver, Remove all cards first!![/b]

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$ df -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   19.0M     19.0M         0 100% /
/dev/root                19.0M     19.0M         0 100% /
/dev/ram1               108.0k     28.0k     80.0k  26% /dev
/dev/loop0               14.4M     14.4M         0 100% /usr
/dev/mtdblock3          102.0M     19.9M     82.1M  19% /home
none                     10.0M     52.0k      9.9M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1                 9.5M      1.0M      8.0M  11% /hdd1
/dev/hda2                 9.5M      1.1M      7.9M  12% /hdd2
/dev/hda3                 3.8G     92.2M      3.7G   2% /hdd3
/dev/mmcda1               1.9G     64.0k      1.9G   0% /usr/mnt.rom/card  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: albertr on March 31, 2006, 12:57:11 pm
Did anyone actually test performance of the new Sharp's driver against the old Sharp's driver? It would be interesting to see how does it compare. Maybe to make it more compatible Sharp just hindicapped its performance?
-albertr
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 31, 2006, 02:16:27 pm
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I got my 2gb card today, had to order it. Local Staples was out of them.
It's a Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD card. It works as shown below in the console.
Install went fine, except for one thing. I forgot to take out my Picsel Browser card.
When I rebooted, I was getting continous error messages about IDE drive, or CF drive.
I pulled the battery and everything was fine after that.
So remember, when installing this new SD driver, Remove all cards first!![/b]

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$ df -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   19.0M     19.0M         0 100% /
/dev/root                19.0M     19.0M         0 100% /
/dev/ram1               108.0k     28.0k     80.0k  26% /dev
/dev/loop0               14.4M     14.4M         0 100% /usr
/dev/mtdblock3          102.0M     19.9M     82.1M  19% /home
none                     10.0M     52.0k      9.9M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1                 9.5M      1.0M      8.0M  11% /hdd1
/dev/hda2                 9.5M      1.1M      7.9M  12% /hdd2
/dev/hda3                 3.8G     92.2M      3.7G   2% /hdd3
/dev/mmcda1               1.9G     64.0k      1.9G   0% /usr/mnt.rom/card  
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must be related to cacko.  I did not expirience this problem since everything i did was from the cf card.

just remember not to install it from the sd card just incase.  a few times i was running the sd card after deleting the driver which was making me laugh for a while.  Only after a reboot, the sd card was not functioning. installing the new driver and rebooting fixed this problem.

congradulations on your new sd card.

has anybody tried the 4gb PQI sd card?  only 160 at a local fry's.  i was going to buy it but i was out of luck and got my 2gb patriot for 70 dollars.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on March 31, 2006, 02:34:00 pm
I installed it from my hard drive.
/hdd3/Documents/Install_Files
Since I got my Picsel card, I always copy files that I need on my Zaurus to /hdd3
I probably won't be purchasing any new cards soon. I already have more than I need now.
Jon
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: DaemonsGR on March 31, 2006, 04:55:17 pm
Any to test 4GB card?
BTW can this driver be usefull for pdaxrom devel?

thnx,
tasos
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 31, 2006, 05:03:46 pm
where is the location of the sd driver?  size, name? kernel version?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on March 31, 2006, 05:35:28 pm
hi Cresho, Meanie,

may I ask what is the difference between that package and the one Meanie prepared s few weeks ago?

Which one is safer? More tested?

Thank you fpr providing this precious piece of software! Now I only have to find a good SD card.

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on March 31, 2006, 10:09:44 pm
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hi Cresho, Meanie,

may I ask what is the difference between that package and the one Meanie prepared s few weeks ago?

Which one is safer? More tested?

Thank you fpr providing this precious piece of software! Now I only have to find a good SD card.

daniel
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he made drivers?  Where?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on April 01, 2006, 12:47:51 pm
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he made drivers?  Where?
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Here:
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"New Sd Driver In Pdaxrom Sd >1gb, This compatable with Cacko?"
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 02, 2006, 09:34:48 pm
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woops.  i screwed up on the first ipk.  made a new one and someone is testing it.

update...i added the new ipk.  Some problems i came accross was going between modules.rom and modules.  reason being is that modules.rom has the original driver while the modules carries a symlink-looks like one.  so what the installer does is overwrites the symlink.  the original driver stays as is in the modules.rom directory.  Not sure if the file system is the same on all handhelds.  But that was really my dilema.

papadon tested a few ipk's and now his sandisk 2gb works fine.  he used the ipk installer.

So there you have it folks.  ipk is at the start of this thread.
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Cresho and anyone else interested in this,

All the C3x00/C1000 Zauri use 2.4.20 linux kernel (unless you install OZ which use 2.6.15 or BSD)
They are all the same, except some have extra updated patches (ie tetsu special kernel)
The kernel sources are available from Sharp, except for the sd module which is binary only so nobody can update the driver except Sharp.
Sashz has compiled an opensource replacement for pdaXrom which, because it is opensource. we have the source code for it. And because pdaXrom is also using 2.4.20 kernel, the modules can be compiled for Sharp ROM or even copied over.
Now with the 3200 sd module, you can remove the symlink from /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/block/sharp_mmcsd_m.o and replace it with the new module, or you can replace the one under /lib/modules.rom/2.4.20/kernel/block/sharp_mmcsd_m.o directly, you you will need to remount / as rw before you can do that. On a C3000, that would be preferrable, because of the limited size of the NAND, but it is also dangerous because, if the NAND gets full during the replacement, you will not be able to update nor delete files from the NAND anymore unless you reflash the kernel. Same is with /home which is an another NAND partition, but it is not as crammed full as the / partition on the other NAND partition.
Also, it would be a good idea to unmount /mnt/card first and then shut down the SD manager by running /etc/rc.d/init.d/sd stop. Once you replace the module, you can start the SD manager again /etc/rc.d/init.d/sd start and you should be able to mount your SD card again without requiring a reboot.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 02, 2006, 10:02:29 pm
I am aware of those..............issues.  Just installing and rebooting works fine with the sharprom.  easier said and easier done.

Never tried sashz driver though.

your right about the 3000 but someone dived into it and runs fine.  Cacko did have a little issue with it but re-rebooting worked as well.  /etc/rc.d/init.d/sd stop and /etc/rc.d/init.d/sd start is the best bet for cacko.

So how is the pdaxrom driver working out for your 3100?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: pgas on April 03, 2006, 03:53:30 am
sashz driver is in devel, and the one in beta2 is buggy (for instance it needs a cf card in the Z to work.
hopefully this should be fix in the upcoming 1.1.0beta3

I think 2G sd cards are not working with the driver in beta2

The good news is that he has 2.4.20 working on 7x0 so maybe we could also use the 3200 driver on these machine...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on April 03, 2006, 09:16:53 pm
Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 03, 2006, 09:24:58 pm
use at your own risk...  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 03, 2006, 09:31:02 pm
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Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
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wasn't there a sdio driver made by c-guys that was only for the 2.4.18 kernel?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: stbrock on April 03, 2006, 10:26:43 pm
Yes, but it seemed quite erratic for SDIO use. There's a post on my experience a year or so back. Whether the card would work reliably with the larger SD cards seems doubtful to me, but perhaps someone can check. I sent my c-guys card and driver on to Maslovsky after I gave up on it and haven't seen any indication he had any luck. But he might be in a position to check whether it can work as a driver for the large SD cards on the 860.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: xjqian on April 04, 2006, 09:00:07 am
any hope for 6000?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: SNi on April 05, 2006, 09:17:26 pm
Works fine - Transcend 4 GB SD (TS4GSD150) in SL-C3000 w/ stock ROM..
SNi
($141.98 from zipzoomfly.com)


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Any to test 4GB card?

thnx,
tasos
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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: InSearchOf on April 05, 2006, 10:02:23 pm
Perfect... now I just need to go out and spend money on one....

how stable is it? what file sys do you have it setup with ext2 or 3 or fat32?


Thanks
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 06, 2006, 02:07:51 am
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Works fine - Transcend 4 GB SD (TS4GSD150) in SL-C3000 w/ stock ROM..
SNi
($141.98 from zipzoomfly.com)


thanks for this valuable piece of information.  added it to the list of supported sd cards.

in search of........its pretty stable so far.  or someone would of posted by now.  and yes, you are really desparate arent you?  c1000 with no internal drive is a killer.  when i had mines, how i wished someone like me would of posted the drivers.  I would not of sold the c1000.  but remember that it does not work on the pdaxrom......so far from what i have seen and nobody posting it working.  only for sharprom based roms.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: DaemonsGR on April 06, 2006, 04:54:24 am
Anyone with hacking skills can ported to pdaxrom?

Tasos
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 06, 2006, 05:50:56 am
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Anyone with hacking skills can ported to pdaxrom?

Tasos
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well, up to beta1, the sd driver in pdaXrom was the same as the sharp one since it is binary only.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on April 06, 2006, 10:24:19 am
A bit off this topic, but related to 2GB cards
Updated info for SLC-760 users here:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=122037 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18699&view=findpost&p=122037)
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: nick88 on April 06, 2006, 11:42:25 am
I hate to ask, but would this new driver work on the 5500?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 06, 2006, 11:51:54 am
since i own a sl5500,  ill look things up and ill post after.  for the sl5500, directory for installer is different, also kernel is different, So far, installer will not work for it.  Tried mannually installing it and still does not work but i did basterdized the file structure.  So ill give that another go another day.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: SNi on April 06, 2006, 05:28:46 pm
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Works fine - Transcend 4 GB SD (TS4GSD150) in SL-C3000 w/ stock ROM..
SNi
($141.98 from zipzoomfly.com)

thanks for this valuable piece of information.  added it to the list of supported sd cards.
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OK, a clarification. It's only been a couple of days so I don't know about "stability". Seems good so far. One weird thing - if I try to install a new ipk to SD using the Add/Remove Software app I get the error message "Not enough storage memory for installation" However, can still install to SD from command line..
SNi
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 06, 2006, 07:29:38 pm
how about another application?  how big is your swap space, how full is your internal drive?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: SNi on April 06, 2006, 09:27:56 pm
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how about another application?  how big is your swap space, how full is your internal drive?
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/hdd1 at 53%, /hdd2 @ 10%, hdd3 @ 28%, /usr/mnt/cf @ 24%, /usr/mnt/card @ 8%... Anything else I should look at? Don't have a swapfile.. Same behavior for 3 different packages...
SNi
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Also /home @ 54%
SNi
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 06, 2006, 09:55:20 pm
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how about another application?  how big is your swap space, how full is your internal drive?
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/hdd1 at 53%, /hdd2 @ 10%, hdd3 @ 28%, /usr/mnt/cf @ 24%, /usr/mnt/card @ 8%... Anything else I should look at? Don't have a swapfile.. Same behavior for 3 different packages...
SNi
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Also /home @ 54%
SNi
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how is /tmp doing? how much of the 1MB is free? if the command line works and the gui doesn't, then I suspect, the free space calculation was probably hardcoded to an upper limit and hence your 4GB is beyond what is "possible", it might have gotten confused and taken your free space as a negative value instead
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 06, 2006, 10:01:11 pm
with all the symlinks, mazathon going on the zaurus, i am even surprised to see it work at all  

Did you try another installer?  Different program?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: SNi on April 07, 2006, 06:54:23 am
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how is /tmp doing? how much of the 1MB is free? if the command line works and the gui doesn't, then I suspect, the free space calculation was probably hardcoded to an upper limit and hence your 4GB is beyond what is "possible", it might have gotten confused and taken your free space as a negative value instead
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When I ask re /tmp it says:
 Used 44.0K Available 980.0K Use 4% /dev/shm.

Oh well, I'm not going to obsess about it, since I can get around the issue..
SNi
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: fastscirocco on April 07, 2006, 08:46:33 am
I tested this on my C3000 running the factory Sharp rom, with an
A Data 2 GB SD card, Model #: SD 2G 50X

Purchased from Newegg.com for $48.99!!!! That's right, $48.99 for
a 2GB SD card!

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16820211029 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820211029)

This card is working great in our Canon Powershot A620 and after
updating to this driver is now working just as well in my C3000.


Thanks for the driver update!
FS
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 07, 2006, 01:31:27 pm
they also ahve a 28 dollar one for 2 gb.  140 for 4gb.   congrats.....2gb makes a world  of a difference.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: icruise on April 07, 2006, 10:28:56 pm
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they also ahve a 28 dollar one for 2 gb.  140 for 4gb.   congrats.....2gb makes a world  of a difference.
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$28 for a 2GB card? Where?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: InSearchOf on April 07, 2006, 10:46:35 pm
I'm assuming newegg.... Try there... If I feel un-lazy for a moment I will find it and post the link....


Edit: Nope didnt find it on NewEgg so I'm wrong...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: icruise on April 08, 2006, 01:51:27 am
Yeah, I didn't see it there, which is why I asked.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on April 09, 2006, 10:24:53 am
It seems that both newegg and zzf have 4GB 150x SD card for $99.99 AR($30).
Pretty tempting...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: raduga on April 10, 2006, 12:47:11 pm
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It seems that both newegg and zzf have 4GB 150x SD card for $99.99 AR($30).
Pretty tempting...
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...and buy.com has a seagate 8gb microdrive (CF) for $147 USD.

4GB microdrive for $72.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: spartan on April 10, 2006, 04:29:16 pm
2GB Mini SD with full SD shoe works

Thanks again for your drivers
Note to Tetsu special kernel users: Make sure to download the driver file off of Tetsu's website for C3000 and C3100 v18d
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 10, 2006, 11:07:45 pm
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It seems that both newegg and zzf have 4GB 150x SD card for $99.99 AR($30).
Pretty tempting...
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...and buy.com has a seagate 8gb microdrive (CF) for $147 USD.

4GB microdrive for $72.
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now to have the ultimate pda....18 gb...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 11, 2006, 01:36:42 pm
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Perfect... now I just need to go out and spend money on one....

how stable is it? what file sys do you have it setup with ext2 or 3 or fat32?


Thanks
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fat16(default)
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 11, 2006, 01:42:47 pm
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2GB Mini SD with full SD shoe works

Thanks again for your drivers
Note to Tetsu special kernel users: Make sure to download the driver file off of Tetsu's website for C3000 and C3100 v18d
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I always been wondering if this option would work on the handheld without the driver update.  Can you confirm this?  THis was my burning question when i owned a c1000.

This information can be very usefull to sl5500 and sl6000 and c860 users.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: spartan on April 12, 2006, 09:41:19 pm
Cresho:
2006/4/8 Handheld Linux Zaurus Software IndexにてCreshoさんにより1GB越のSDに対応するドライバが配布されていたので、アンインストールできるよう改良してみました(zaurus_sd_driver_update_cxxxx_1.0+tetsu_arm.zip)。
He provides a package, and it works fine for me.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 13, 2006, 12:01:21 am
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Cresho:
2006/4/8 Handheld Linux Zaurus Software IndexにてCreshoさんにより1GB越のSDに対応するドライバが配布されていたので、アンインストールできるよう改良してみました(zaurus_sd_driver_update_cxxxx_1.0+tetsu_arm.zip)。
He provides a package, and it works fine for me.
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He basically took my ipk for a ride and improved on it by adding install scripts.  Is this correct?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: icruise on April 13, 2006, 02:57:45 am
Yep. And in case anyone was wondering, I don't think there's anything about the package he made that relates to his special kernel.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on April 14, 2006, 10:35:08 am
I tested on my Z with my newly ZZF bought corsair 133x sd, copy from the microdrivr to sd can achieve 1MB/s . It seems not so slow but not fast,too.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: rickh on April 16, 2006, 01:13:48 pm
Just to chime in,  the new driver loaded fine on my C3000, stock Sharp Rom.  Inserted PNY 2 gig card, loaded about a gig of mp3s on it, started to play files while transferring via wireless scp.  No problems whatsoever.

R.
==
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on April 16, 2006, 01:40:35 pm
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There are two sd drivers now.  The first one which I slaped together only replaces a link to where the original driver stays. The tetsu driver improves upon the older driver by adding a script. tetsu added postinst and postrm scripts to the new version.  Uninstalling my old ipk would most likely make your zaurus sd drive not operational unless you do a hard reset or most likely a nand restore.  NOthing wrong with my driver.  The tetsu one is more correct.  Download the tetsu sd driver.  I am keeping the old sd up just incase.
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I think everyone who has read this, and are only reading the followups, should re-read the first post again.
It has been updated.

I have a question, If I wanted to install the tetsu version, could I just install it on top of Cresho's version, without first uninstalling Cresho's version?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: sidmoraes on April 16, 2006, 02:08:41 pm
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There are two sd drivers now.  The first one which I slaped together only replaces a link to where the original driver stays. The tetsu driver improves upon the older driver by adding a script. tetsu added postinst and postrm scripts to the new version.  Uninstalling my old ipk would most likely make your zaurus sd drive not operational unless you do a hard reset or most likely a nand restore.  NOthing wrong with my driver.  The tetsu one is more correct.  Download the tetsu sd driver.  I am keeping the old sd up just incase.
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I think everyone who has read this, and are only reading the followups, should re-read the first post again.
It has been updated.

I have a question, If I wanted to install the tetsu version, could I just install it on top of Cresho's version, without first uninstalling Cresho's version?
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Both are the same module!!! Tetsu only make a new ipk.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on April 16, 2006, 02:16:50 pm
Quote:
"tetsu driver improves upon the older driver by adding a script. tetsu added postinst and postrm scripts to the new version. "

The module is the same, but don't we need the script mentioned above?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on April 16, 2006, 02:26:35 pm
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Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
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wasn't there a sdio driver made by c-guys that was only for the 2.4.18 kernel?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=121686\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Anybody got a link for that?

I tried Cresho's original instructions on my 860, by the way, and it wound up not recognising my SD slot at all. Had to uninstall and reboot. I'm not going to go buy a big SD card until I'm sure I can use it!
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on April 16, 2006, 10:57:39 pm
It seems that this driver doesn't work on C860.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 16, 2006, 11:19:51 pm
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Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=121681\")

wasn't there a sdio driver made by c-guys that was only for the 2.4.18 kernel?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=121686\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Anybody got a link for that?

I tried Cresho's original instructions on my 860, by the way, and it wound up not recognising my SD slot at all. Had to uninstall and reboot. I'm not going to go buy a big SD card until I'm sure I can use it!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123432\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

[a href=\"http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk]http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk[/url]
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on April 17, 2006, 03:54:56 am
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Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=121681\")

wasn't there a sdio driver made by c-guys that was only for the 2.4.18 kernel?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=121686\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Anybody got a link for that?

I tried Cresho's original instructions on my 860, by the way, and it wound up not recognising my SD slot at all. Had to uninstall and reboot. I'm not going to go buy a big SD card until I'm sure I can use it!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123432\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

[a href=\"http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk]http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk[/url]
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Hmmmm, I've already got that one downloaded ... I'll try it, though. Later. Thanks.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 17, 2006, 07:30:38 pm
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2GB Mini SD with full SD shoe works

Thanks again for your drivers
Note to Tetsu special kernel users: Make sure to download the driver file off of Tetsu's website for C3000 and C3100 v18d
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i wonder if this works without the driver update.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on April 18, 2006, 05:02:35 pm
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Is there any chance this can be done for the 860? The CACkO version I'm running has the 2.4.18 kernel ...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=121681\")

wasn't there a sdio driver made by c-guys that was only for the 2.4.18 kernel?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=121686\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Anybody got a link for that?

I tried Cresho's original instructions on my 860, by the way, and it wound up not recognising my SD slot at all. Had to uninstall and reboot. I'm not going to go buy a big SD card until I'm sure I can use it!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=123432\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

[a href=\"http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk]http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk[/url]
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Hmmmm, I've already got that one downloaded ... I'll try it, though. Later. Thanks.
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Nope, not gonna work ... had to uninstall and reboot again to get the SD slot recognised. I'll just have to content myself with the 1G limit, I suppose.  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dinorex on April 19, 2006, 01:12:28 pm
today i tried my patched C3100 with a sandisk 2G ....
and Z can't read it
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 19, 2006, 02:38:33 pm
wow...interesting.  did you reboot?  Could be that particular sandisk.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dinorex on April 19, 2006, 02:52:09 pm
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wow...interesting.  did you reboot?  Could be that particular sandisk.
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i went to a 2nd hand store selling 2G sandisk, and direct plugin the SD...

of coz i have no time to reboot that instantly but i have rebooted it several times during the day (since I've tailored something today...)

but b4hand, that Z was plugged in a 1G Sandisk SD and functioned properly....  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on April 19, 2006, 09:16:52 pm
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wow...interesting.  did you reboot?  Could be that particular sandisk.
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i went to a 2nd hand store selling 2G sandisk, and direct plugin the SD...

of coz i have no time to reboot that instantly but i have rebooted it several times during the day (since I've tailored something today...)

but b4hand, that Z was plugged in a 1G Sandisk SD and functioned properly....  
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Does that SD card work on other systems, ie via card reader on a PC?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dinorex on April 19, 2006, 10:03:18 pm
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Does that SD card work on other systems, ie via card reader on a PC?
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i haven't tried for so detail.... once i saw it doesn't work  ... i left the store

anyway, i will try elsewhere later...  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: rokugo on April 21, 2006, 07:13:14 am
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http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk (http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk)
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Hmmmm, I've already got that one downloaded ... I'll try it, though. Later. Thanks.
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Nope, not gonna work ... had to uninstall and reboot again to get the SD slot recognised. I'll just have to content myself with the 1G limit, I suppose.  
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For the driver to work properly you just need to replace /usr/sbin/sdiomgr with the script from this post : [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17208&view=findpost&p=115923]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=115923[/url]
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dinorex on April 21, 2006, 01:33:38 pm
yesterday nite i tried my patched c3k1 with a transcend 4G, and it works, and opened some movies...  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on April 21, 2006, 05:47:36 pm
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yesterday nite i tried my patched c3k1 with a transcend 4G, and it works, and opened some movies... 
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someone posted problems installing ipk to that particular sd card.  just remember if you want to install to sd card, use the terminal.  .  2gb no problems so far.  Happy to hear you watching movies.  Currently i have over 30 hours worth of movies on my pda and ...........tons of music, over 2000 games but i mostly use it for my nursing school.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on April 21, 2006, 09:54:01 pm
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http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk (http://www.c-guys.jp/data/link11b/sd-link11b_us_jpn_arm.ipk)
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Hmmmm, I've already got that one downloaded ... I'll try it, though. Later. Thanks.
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Nope, not gonna work ... had to uninstall and reboot again to get the SD slot recognised. I'll just have to content myself with the 1G limit, I suppose.  
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For the driver to work properly you just need to replace /usr/sbin/sdiomgr with the script from this post : [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17208&view=findpost&p=115923]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=115923[/url]
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Ah? Okay, then ... I'll try again in a week or so. Thanks!
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on May 04, 2006, 04:51:31 am
Hi Cresho,

one question:

If I install that driver, will it also be available in the emergency console boot, available via B+D boot so I can use backups on the 2GB SD card from there?

Thanks
daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on May 04, 2006, 04:56:45 am
I assume it not to work since i have a few people stating that it does not work.  You would most likely need to eject the card before doing this procedure.  Others use compact flash.

You can try how ever and post if you had no problems.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: chyang on May 04, 2006, 05:49:31 am
I have posted in the hardware forum, it will cause problems. If you are having 2GB sd in the slot, you will not be able to enter the D+B mode.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on May 10, 2006, 08:49:43 am
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I have posted in the hardware forum, it will cause problems. If you are having 2GB sd in the slot, you will not be able to enter the D+B mode.
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I just tried with my PNY 2GB card in the slot.
B+D boot itself works, but when it shows "INIT: Entering runlevel: 4" it gets VERY slow. On the login prompt, which appears about half a minute later, I cannot enter anything.

Seems as if the processor is very busy.
The cursor blinks very slowly (one blink cycle every 5 seconds).

When I eject the card the Zaurus is immediately responsive again (without rebooting).
When logging in as root then and calling "dmesg" I see a lot of

SD read CRC error
sd_read_multiple(4660) : receive error
mmc read checked intervalbuf: ERROR adr = 6144 (0x1800) , len = 2048 (0x800)
[SD]-R 1800 0800 ERROR!

(the number 0x1800 varies: 0x0000, 0x800, 0x1000, 0x1800).

If I insert the card again, the Zaurus is too busy to respond to keyboard entry again.


Is it possible to also replace the driver used in B+D boot with the new driver?
Is it as simple as replacing the driver module on mtdblockX using a NAND restore process?

Well, it's not essential. Now I only must make sure to always carry a CF card with Cacko ROM on it with me when travelling and experimenting a lot with the Zaurus.
by now I always had backups AND the Cacko flash files on one SD card together with all user data.

daniel

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on May 10, 2006, 09:00:03 am
Well, in order to avoid confusion: This is ONLY valid for the B+D boot method.

The PNY 2GB SD card works very well in normal operation of my SL-C3100 with the driver provided by Cresho / Tetsu.

thanks for that!

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on May 10, 2006, 05:11:59 pm
maslovsky is aware of this and will be incorporating the driver into the cacko itself.  Hopefully will answer a few of my questions too.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: brashley46 on May 10, 2006, 07:50:05 pm
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maslovsky is aware of this and will be incorporating the driver into the cacko itself.  Hopefully will answer a few of my questions too.
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For the 860 as well?

::puppy-dog eyes::
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: eji on May 15, 2006, 02:43:18 am
I'd really like a nice IPK of this for the 6000 (Tosa), if possible. Any chance we might see anything soon?

One of the biggest limitations of my Z right now is storage -- I'm maxed out at 1GB CF and 1GB SD -- and card storage prices are dropping like a rock. 4GB 150x SDs can be had for $93 (http://dealmac.com/deals/A-Data-150-x-4-GB-Secure-Digital-Card-for-92-shipped-2-GB-for-55/118691.html?ref=rss_dealmac_20).
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on May 15, 2006, 07:37:37 am
Just an expirience here.  Im not sure how this fits into my 4gb sd.  But I was playing with the cacko and the driver I put up, installed software into my 4gb.  Then after a while, it couldnt accept install to sd with ipk.  I would get an error that there is not enough memory or something to that extent.  I figured i would fdisk the 4gb and hosed it.  It doesnt work on my pda anymore.  I had this expirience with my sandisk 128mb on my zaurus years ago.  well my 4gb does work on my windows pc but it refuses to be seen in my zaurus.  same expirience as my sandisk.

Just out of curiosity, has anybody expirienced something similar?  since its still under warranty, im gona return it for another brand or the same.

Has anybody had any expirience similar to this?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: ChrisR on May 29, 2006, 09:29:46 am
Hello everyone,

since this is my first post here I'd like to say that I really like this forum! I'm a new and very happy Zaurus C1000 owner, and it just rocks

I got myself a 4GB Platinum SD Card and downloaded Cresho's driver. Rebooted, and it just works  Thanks a lot Cresho!

Just a little question: I partitioned the SD card with a 1gig ext2 and a 3gig fat32 partition. Is there a way to create a new mountpoint under /usr/mnt.rom/ like card1 for the second partition to keep the standard? Or do I have to mount it in my homedir?

Greetz
Chris
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on May 29, 2006, 09:49:08 am
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Hello everyone,

since this is my first post here I'd like to say that I really like this forum! I'm a new and very happy Zaurus C1000 owner, and it just rocks

I got myself a 4GB Platinum SD Card and downloaded Cresho's driver. Rebooted, and it just works  Thanks a lot Cresho!

Just a little question: I partitioned the SD card with a 1gig ext2 and a 3gig fat32 partition. Is there a way to create a new mountpoint under /usr/mnt.rom/ like card1 for the second partition to keep the standard? Or do I have to mount it in my homedir?

Greetz
Chris
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If I am notmistaken, Meanie's automounter-c3000 package takes care of that automatically.
See here:
[a href=\"http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/]http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/[/url]

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: jpmatrix on June 25, 2006, 05:07:03 pm
guys,
i've just tried my brother's 4Gb Transcend 150x sdcard in my slc3000 with these new drivers : i could see it perfectly!
but when i tried fdisk it, i could see 4gb allocated space but no partition on it! (there was one indeed!)

how can you explain that ?

(please reply quickly as i'll propably buy one soon
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on June 25, 2006, 05:09:54 pm
what partition did you have on it to begin with?  Some cards do not work.  can you see that partition or directories in the file browser in the zaurus?  keep the partition fat 16.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: jpmatrix on June 26, 2006, 10:26:14 am
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what partition did you have on it to begin with?  Some cards do not work.  can you see that partition or directories in the file browser in the zaurus?  keep the partition fat 16.
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well,
it was a FAT32 partition and i could see and access the files that were on it. it just that fdisk "saw" no partition.....
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: km2783 on July 08, 2006, 01:15:22 am
I've been using 'zaurus-sd-driver-update-cxxxx_1.0_arm' since the ipk was first posted.  Pretty much as soon as I read (meanie posted it, I think) that pdaxrom beta1 could use the file.  Reflashed to beta1, used the package manager gui to install the ipk to /, and then rebooted.  It was a litle hairy when I first inserted my 4GB SD card, my 3100 froze when I put it in, and I pulled the battery.  It has been flawless ever since.

Oh, it is an A Data Turbo 4GB, 150x 'MyFlash'.  It is dark blue/purple, with a pink label.  It is also half the price or less that I paid for it at this time, lol.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: kopsis on July 08, 2006, 03:38:29 pm
It's not uncommon to find flash cards (CF, SD, etc.) with no partition table. It seems some versions of Windows and some devices will see that the first sector is an MS-DOS boot sector instead of a master boot record and treat the card as a (really big) floppy disk.

If you want to partition the card (you will lose all the data on the card), start fdisk with a "-z" option to zero out the first sector.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: portalgod on August 31, 2006, 01:14:33 am
I seem to be having the same problem as SNi.  When I try to use Cacko's Add/Remove Software app (maybe this is not specific to Cacko) I also have the same not enough storage memory for installation message.  This happens when the card (w/single 4GB partition) is formatted fat, vfat, or ext2.

Packages install to internal flash no problem and also install to my 512MB card no problem.

I'll try ipkg via command line.

Update: Yep, ipkg via command line seems to install to the card.    Is there some other ipkg front end type program that overcomes this high memory limitation?

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Works fine - Transcend 4 GB SD (TS4GSD150) in SL-C3000 w/ stock ROM..
SNi
($141.98 from zipzoomfly.com)

thanks for this valuable piece of information.  added it to the list of supported sd cards.
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OK, a clarification. It's only been a couple of days so I don't know about "stability". Seems good so far. One weird thing - if I try to install a new ipk to SD using the Add/Remove Software app I get the error message "Not enough storage memory for installation" However, can still install to SD from command line..
SNi
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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on August 31, 2006, 03:32:59 am
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I seem to be having the same problem as SNi.  When I try to use Cacko's Add/Remove Software app (maybe this is not specific to Cacko) I also have the same not enough storage memory for installation message.  This happens when the card (w/single 4GB partition) is formatted fat, vfat, or ext2.

Packages install to internal flash no problem and also install to my 512MB card no problem.

I'll try ipkg via command line.

Update: Yep, ipkg via command line seems to install to the card.    Is there some other ipkg front end type program that overcomes this high memory limitation?

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Seems a bit of something inside the QTopia system (i.e. only applied to graphical apps) is hardcoded to a maximum partition size of 2GB when checking available space.

daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 05, 2006, 06:54:08 pm
Just got a 4GB PQI Hi-speed 150 SD card and cannot get this bad boy working.    I tried the following.  
1.  I downloaded the driver from the start of the thread and installed it using the package manager------- said everything was ok.

2.  I rebooted the C1000 and plugged in the card-----nothing.

3.  Ran a "df -h" from the shell and got nothing referencing /mmc

4.  Ran "dmesg" and got the following response.

 pxa_sd_wait_response: responce time out (cmd=52 MMC_STAT=0x2142)
pxa_sd_wait_response: responce time out (cmd=05 MMC_STAT=0x2142)
[SD]-clustsize = 10000
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option quiet
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
EXT2-fs: Unrecognized mount option quiet
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
cramfs: wrong magic
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
VFS: Can't find a Minix or Minix V2 filesystem on device 3c:01.
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 3c:01.
FAT: freeing iocharset=utf8
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
jffs2: attempt to mount non-MTD device 3c:01
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on mmcd(60,1)
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev mmcd(60,1).
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev mmcd(60,1).
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
cramfs: wrong magic
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
VFS: Can't find a Minix or Minix V2 filesystem on device 3c:01.
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 3c:01.
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
jffs2: attempt to mount non-MTD device 3c:01
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
 mmcda: mmcda1 mmcda2 mmcda3 mmcda4
SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on mmcd(60,1)

5.  Checked the install package manager and noticed that under the install portion the package was still referencing it was not installed.  However when I would go to the uninstall section it was installed.  

6.  Double checked card was recognized by a Windows PC w/ a SD card reader and had it formated for FAT32.... is that ok?

7.  Since I had so much crap in my C1000 i decided to reload from Cacko 1.23 full with 1.23 lite and start with a clean install-------------same kind of output.  

8.  Uninstalled the SD card driver and re-installed through the console-----same thing and output.

9.  My 1 GB card does work.

10.  Tried Meanie's way of shutting down the sd card mngr service and restarting-----same thing.  

11.  Brain's starting to fry now and getting a facial tick from stress  

Can anyone give me any guidance???

Thanks....
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 05, 2006, 06:55:31 pm
that card must be one of the "not supported" type.  2gb pretec cards work excellently but Liberty 4gb gaved me a little issue after 2 weeks.  Read up in the forums and figure out who has had excellent results from a 4gb.  Use that 4gb if they recommend it.  PQI is a bit...hmmm  "iffy"
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 05, 2006, 06:58:25 pm
This was the card that was under the great deals

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21230 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21230)
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on September 05, 2006, 07:41:04 pm
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This was the card that was under the great deals

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21230 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21230)
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had troubles with pqi cards and had to replace them 3 times. the current one has been working for weeks now. the previous ones died after days...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: daniel3000 on September 06, 2006, 07:53:23 am
Maybe the FS type is not recognized correctly or the card is partitioned in an odd way.

Please try the following:

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fdisk /dev/mmcda
then hit p to print the partition table. What does it say?
Try removing existing partition(s) and creating on ebig new partition with FS type 83 (Linux).
Then mkfs.ext2 /dev/mcda1

Does that work?

Is the card mounted correctly afterwards?

If yes, then re-type the partition to Windows95 (FAT32) instead of Linux (ext2) in fdisk and create an FAT32 FS with
mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/mmcda1

Does it still work correctly?

Good luck
daniel
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 06, 2006, 02:19:56 pm
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Maybe the FS type is not recognized correctly or the card is partitioned in an odd way.

Please try the following:

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fdisk /dev/mmcda
then hit p to print the partition table. What does it say?
Try removing existing partition(s) and creating on ebig new partition with FS type 83 (Linux).
Then mkfs.ext2 /dev/mcda1

Does that work?

Is the card mounted correctly afterwards?

If yes, then re-type the partition to Windows95 (FAT32) instead of Linux (ext2) in fdisk and create an FAT32 FS with
mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/mmcda1

Does it still work correctly?

Good luck
daniel
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That worked great!!!!!  .

The partition was reading unknown.  Once I deleted it and recreated it as per your instructions all is working well.  4GB!!!!!!!!!!!  

 I definately learned some basic stuff today.  Thanks Daniel for commands, thanks Cresho for the drivers and the SNES emulators, and thanks Meanie for the pdaXqtrom.  You guys are awesome.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 06, 2006, 03:47:54 pm
fat16 works better on the z especially if you want to be doing nand restore from your sd card

if you are going to stick with fat32, use fat32(LBA).  But for restore purpouses, use fat16(LBA).

hmm.. come to think of it, I think that's the reason why my 4gb failed.  Probably not supported.  Anyway, stick with fat32 but if you ever need to do a nand backup or restore, just for your information, it will only work on a card with fat16 (LBA).  I use a 2gb at the moment.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: johnla on September 16, 2006, 11:46:21 am
Thanks Cresho! I haven't tried it yet, but I'm excited to.. Finally I can get 4GB for my C1000. You just added a lot of value to my Z!! Big props!
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: portalgod on September 16, 2006, 07:52:37 pm
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Thanks Cresho! I haven't tried it yet, but I'm excited to.. Finally I can get 4GB for my C1000. You just added a lot of value to my Z!! Big props!
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Yea, I have a 4GB Transcend 150x SD card.  I first had it formatted FAT16, then reformatted it ext2 so I can keep files on there and not have the system complain about symlinks on a FAT formatted card.

Also, if you havent' read my other posts in this thread, beware that the default graphical Package Manager shipped with Cacko (maybe some others out there too) complain about the 4GB single partition.  Seems they don't want to play well with partitions that size.  Size down to 2GB or 1GB if you want to use the graphical installer.

Ipkg command line will install to the 4GB partition no problem.

That was one of the "Gotcha!"'s that I noticed when I first got the card.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 16, 2006, 09:52:59 pm
my 4gb worked fine using the graphical interface.  not sure why it died but now im looking for 8gb.  depends on the brand
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: desertrat on September 17, 2006, 07:34:00 am
I am glad to report that I've finally got this to work on a Transcend 2GB 80X mini-sd card (TS2GSDM80). Why mini-sd? Because it's for my phone.

When I first tried the driver I couldn't get it to work so reverted back to the standard one. After much experimentation I found that the adapter that came with one of the mini-sd cards was broken: the symptom being that when inserted into a device (tried my Z and my wince) it would eat the cpu for a good half-minute or so then ignore the card. After swapping to a different adapter the Z sees the card and I was able to copy a bunch of stuff over.

NB this card is for my phone so I won't be doing any long-term stress testing on it (it will be used now and again for copying files back and forth between the Z & phone) so please don't make any buying decisions based on my info (at least don't blame it on me if you do and something goes wrong ).

Cresho: I think it'll be a good idea to have a list of tested and "seem to be working" cards listed at the beginning of the thread (or somewhere easily accessible - wiki?) so people don't have to trawl through the thread looking for that info. Want to volunteer?  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 18, 2006, 11:41:26 am
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fat16 works better on the z especially if you want to be doing nand restore from your sd card

if you are going to stick with fat32, use fat32(LBA).  But for restore purpouses, use fat16(LBA).

hmm.. come to think of it, I think that's the reason why my 4gb failed.  Probably not supported.  Anyway, stick with fat32 but if you ever need to do a nand backup or restore, just for your information, it will only work on a card with fat16 (LBA).  I use a 2gb at the moment.
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I tried the Fat32 first but then noticed that my Windows box and my Linux box didn't recognize the card when used with a card reader.  So I then used fat32 LBA but still got the same thing.  Since I could use the 1000 as a card reader I'm thinking of repartitioning to ext2 so I could use the seperate card reader for the linux box and connect thru the Z for windows pc's.  I'll let you know what happens.
 
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: portalgod on September 18, 2006, 11:53:48 am
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fat16 works better on the z especially if you want to be doing nand restore from your sd card

if you are going to stick with fat32, use fat32(LBA).  But for restore purpouses, use fat16(LBA).

hmm.. come to think of it, I think that's the reason why my 4gb failed.  Probably not supported.  Anyway, stick with fat32 but if you ever need to do a nand backup or restore, just for your information, it will only work on a card with fat16 (LBA).  I use a 2gb at the moment.
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I tried the Fat32 first but then noticed that my Windows box and my Linux box didn't recognize the card when used with a card reader.  So I then used fat32 LBA but still got the same thing.  Since I could use the 1000 as a card reader I'm thinking of repartitioning to ext2 so I could use the seperate card reader for the linux box and connect thru the Z for windows pc's.  I'll let you know what happens.
 
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Or you can format it ext2 and install this ext2 driver on your windows xp box.

[a href=\"http://www.fs-driver.org/]http://www.fs-driver.org/[/url]
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 21, 2006, 05:18:48 am
just a few notes for you guys...
After repartitioning and formating my 2gb in the zaurus, windows will not recognize the 2gb when i usb connect it to the windows box.  But when i use my mustek dv4500 as a usb drive with the same 2gb sd card i formated, windows finds it automatically.  So i then decided to format the card through my mustek with the 2gb again to fat16 and now windows sees it in my zaurus.  What a maze-athon!  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: njefferies on September 21, 2006, 06:50:40 am
The Z seems to share the SD card with windows at the byte level - so for windows to see it it must be formatted with FAT/VFAT. I have partitioned my SD into a VFAT partion which windows can see over USB and an ext2 partition for proper Linux stuff.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 21, 2006, 01:33:33 pm
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just a few notes for you guys...
After repartitioning and formating my 2gb in the zaurus, windows will not recognize the 2gb when i usb connect it to the windows box.  But when i use my mustek dv4500 as a usb drive with the same 2gb sd card i formated, windows finds it automatically.  So i then decided to format the card through my mustek with the 2gb again to fat16 and now windows sees it in my zaurus.  What a maze-athon! 
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 Did this put a small partition in front of and at the end of the SD card.  I'm curious if I would have to do that.  I'm still having little quirks with my card.    I just read up Meanie's site about syncing and delaying the umount process for cards that are 4gb and higher.  For some reason my SD card was unable to write with the zaurus user even though I had given 777 permissions from root.  I just redid the whole partition so hopefully it would work fine.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: johnla on September 26, 2006, 12:06:08 am
Just installed the driver last night and my Ridata 4GB SD worked perfect. all day then I took it out tonight to put more stuff on it through my laptop's SD card adapter. I put it back in and the Z can't see it. My laptop and digicam can still see it however. It's just dead to the Z.

I'm running C1000, Cacko 1.23
I even reinstalled the driver but it hasn't helped. Also rebooted in case.

Any ideas?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: johnla on September 26, 2006, 12:18:12 am
I dunno why this is, but I reformatted with my digicam and it works again. I dont know if I would've gotten the same effect if I reformatted with laptop or the Z.. I know it's ideal to reformat with the Z to use with the Z, but I really want to be able to use this same card for my digicam too.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 26, 2006, 12:37:34 am
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I dunno why this is, but I reformatted with my digicam and it works again. I dont know if I would've gotten the same effect if I reformatted with laptop or the Z.. I know it's ideal to reformat with the Z to use with the Z, but I really want to be able to use this same card for my digicam too.
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Be carefull with which sd cards you use.  SD cards are unstable wo the z but a few.  I remember back when the sl-5500 was having a heart attack over a sandisk 125mb.  Then i purchased a 1gb PNY and has not given me any problems at all.  SD cards are hard to come by when it comes to stability.

I recommend you stick with a 2gb PNY or Patriot.  My 4b Patriot was working fine till it died after 2 weeks of usage....just some examples.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cyberdoc1971 on September 26, 2006, 11:42:00 am
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I dunno why this is, but I reformatted with my digicam and it works again. I dont know if I would've gotten the same effect if I reformatted with laptop or the Z.. I know it's ideal to reformat with the Z to use with the Z, but I really want to be able to use this same card for my digicam too.
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Be carefull with which sd cards you use.  SD cards are unstable wo the z but a few.  I remember back when the sl-5500 was having a heart attack over a sandisk 125mb.  Then i purchased a 1gb PNY and has not given me any problems at all.  SD cards are hard to come by when it comes to stability.

I recommend you stick with a 2gb PNY or Patriot.  My 4b Patriot was working fine till it died after 2 weeks of usage....just some examples.
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What about Sandisk? I have a Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD, and it does not work no matter what I try.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 26, 2006, 11:46:27 am
if it doesnt work, it doesnt work.  Take it back or get another card.  They run cheap now a days.

Some suggest adding a 7mb partition infront of the vfat.  Not sure how this works since the zaurus cannot see it to begin with.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cyberdoc1971 on September 26, 2006, 11:54:17 am
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if it doesnt work, it doesnt work.  Take it back or get another card.  They run cheap now a days.

Some suggest adding a 7mb partition infront of the vfat.  Not sure how this works since the zaurus cannot see it to begin with.
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This is one I have had for the past 2 years that i know works in the PC and my camera.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 26, 2006, 12:34:32 pm
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if it doesnt work, it doesnt work.  Take it back or get another card.  They run cheap now a days.

Some suggest adding a 7mb partition infront of the vfat.  Not sure how this works since the zaurus cannot see it to begin with.
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This is one I have had for the past 2 years that i know works in the PC and my camera.
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yes it will work on your camera and pc, just zaurus will not see it.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on September 26, 2006, 12:37:26 pm
I also have the Sandisk Ultra II - 2GB SD card, and It works in my C3100
I never reformatted it, it worked "out of the box".
I haven't used it much yet and only have 132mb of files on it as of now.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 26, 2006, 12:56:34 pm
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if it doesnt work, it doesnt work.  Take it back or get another card.  They run cheap now a days.

Some suggest adding a 7mb partition infront of the vfat.  Not sure how this works since the zaurus cannot see it to begin with.
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SD cards are getting pretty cheap now.  I just formatted my 4Gb in my Z and just left it there.  When I need to access it I use the Z as a card reader.  I formatted it with ext2 and changed some of the config options for umount (courtesy of Meanie's site).
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cyberdoc1971 on September 26, 2006, 02:20:45 pm
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I dunno why this is, but I reformatted with my digicam and it works again. I dont know if I would've gotten the same effect if I reformatted with laptop or the Z.. I know it's ideal to reformat with the Z to use with the Z, but I really want to be able to use this same card for my digicam too.
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Be carefull with which sd cards you use.  SD cards are unstable wo the z but a few.  I remember back when the sl-5500 was having a heart attack over a sandisk 125mb.  Then i purchased a 1gb PNY and has not given me any problems at all.  SD cards are hard to come by when it comes to stability.

I recommend you stick with a 2gb PNY or Patriot.  My 4b Patriot was working fine till it died after 2 weeks of usage....just some examples.
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I think it's the particular Sandisk card, Which specific Patriot SD card do you recomend - thinking putting an order to newegg.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cyberdoc1971 on September 26, 2006, 02:48:07 pm
OMG! I finally got this card to work! I tried to pop the Sandisk SD into my Wife's Pentax camera, and it would not read, so I formated it in my Kodak camera, and the C3100 read it. Seems to work so far, and I transferred all the files from my 1GB CF and did a backup to the SD.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on September 26, 2006, 04:42:08 pm
Can you go into fdisk and tell us how it's partitioned??
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on September 26, 2006, 05:31:34 pm
I don't know if this will help, but here is my results from Sandisk Ultra II 2GB Sd card.
It came pre-formatted, and I haven't formatted it.
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# fdisk -l /dev/mmcda1  
Disk /dev/mmcda1: 2031 MB, 2031226368 bytes 64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 983 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes  
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on September 28, 2006, 04:19:09 am
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OMG! I finally got this card to work! I tried to pop the Sandisk SD into my Wife's Pentax camera, and it would not read, so I formated it in my Kodak camera, and the C3100 read it. Seems to work so far, and I transferred all the files from my 1GB CF and did a backup to the SD.
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well something usefull came out of this one.  you just saved me another 40-70 bucks.  I poped my deceased  sd card into my dv 4500 and formated it.  Now it works on my pc, zaurus and also my hybrid camera.

In my zaurus, i had access through it from terminal but I knew nothing of the cylinder size to fix it.    I somehow got into something more than the sd card's partition and wiped it out.  Something like a hidden partition "so to speak of."  So I kept the card thinking someone can come up with a solution and i remembered this post.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on November 21, 2006, 06:39:54 pm
I just did the patch onto my c3100 running cacko-1.23, and it worked without drama. Before the patch, a 4GB card made it panic.

I had to reformat the card because the Z claimed it was full of junk files with weird names... then it was fine. I think it was because the 150x 4GB sd card had just previously tried in a device which definitely didn't like big cards (a Pure PocketDAB 2000 mp3/dab radio, which only accepts 2GB cards max according to documentation), and I think that corrupted the card slightly as the Z said it was full of bogus files even though the card looked fine in Windows. Once reformatted FAT32 it was fine on Z and windows.

Still hoping for an SDIO driver :-/
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on November 21, 2006, 06:46:46 pm
BTW, on the subject of partitioning flash cards. A little while ago I was backing up my stock-rom C3100 and made a flash backup which I didn't copy off, as I noticed that there was also a microdrive backup option in the D+M menu, so I tried it thnking it'd create a tar.gz archive, but instead it did a raw block copy off the microdrive onto the 512MB cf card, which failed as the CF card wasn't big enough. The CF card's partition info was then corrupted, I reformatted in windows, but it didn't work in Zaurus, and couldn't be used in D+M menu to backup.

Basically, without partition info on the flash, windows formatted the entire device as FAT, leaving no partition info. I could mount it at the command line with "mount /dev/sda /mnt/flash". It took a few goes to create a partition on it with fdisk /dev/sda using a usb flash memory reader on linux, but afterwards the card worked normally again and I was once again able to do NAND backups.

I suspect the same problem exists with SD cards too.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: pelrun on November 21, 2006, 11:43:24 pm
Sounds like the CF driver in the backup code doesn't check the size of the device and just writes off the end of it - the drive then ignores the top bit of the address and wraps around to the beginning, right where the partition table is.

It's not likely to happen on an SD card, as those are serially addressed.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on November 22, 2006, 05:06:02 am
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Sounds like the CF driver in the backup code doesn't check the size of the device and just writes off the end of it - the drive then ignores the top bit of the address and wraps around to the beginning, right where the partition table is.

It's not likely to happen on an SD card, as those are serially addressed.
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good theory but the backup code did throw an error in red letters saying the destination was full.

I am wondering if the function is intended to make a raw copy of the internal drive onto an external one, rather than make a backup file... but then I'd have expected the CF card to look like a corrupted multi-partition microdrive than a unformatted/unpartitioned corrupted mess?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: kahm on November 25, 2006, 08:27:39 pm
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Sounds like the CF driver in the backup code doesn't check the size of the device and just writes off the end of it - the drive then ignores the top bit of the address and wraps around to the beginning, right where the partition table is.

It's not likely to happen on an SD card, as those are serially addressed.
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good theory but the backup code did throw an error in red letters saying the destination was full.

I am wondering if the function is intended to make a raw copy of the internal drive onto an external one, rather than make a backup file... but then I'd have expected the CF card to look like a corrupted multi-partition microdrive than a unformatted/unpartitioned corrupted mess?
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I did one of those D&M backups with a 6gb MD. I've now got a 4gb partition on the MD with an exact copy of the internal drive. I suspect what is going on is the Z is using "dd" (or some equivalent) to copy the drive's contents verbatim, including partition info.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on November 26, 2006, 05:14:26 pm
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I did one of those D&M backups with a 6gb MD. I've now got a 4gb partition on the MD with an exact copy of the internal drive. I suspect what is going on is the Z is using "dd" (or some equivalent) to copy the drive's contents verbatim, including partition info.
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thanks for that, so yes, the D+M backup is just a raw sector copy.I think I'll just rsync the contents over, as I want to preserve the original c3100 contents before repartitioning it.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on December 07, 2006, 10:01:34 pm
I have an A-Data 4GB myFlash Turbo SD 150x. From reading through the posts, it would appear that it works. I downloaded the driver from (I think) Meanies site. The installed driver says sdmmc-module ver 2.4.20. I have Cacko 1.23 installed on my 3200. I put in the card and it does not show up. I attempt to mount /dev/mmcda1 and it says "No such device'. dmesg|tail says (many times):

pxa_sd_wait_id_response:responce time out (cmd=01 MMC_STAT=0x2142)

Can't fdisk, etc. My digital camera sees it, wants to format it, but can't. Any ideas?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on December 07, 2006, 10:11:15 pm
get another card.  you need trial and error..there is no difinitive list of working 4gb cards since the crowd is small here.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Meanie on December 07, 2006, 10:45:16 pm
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I have an A-Data 4GB myFlash Turbo SD 150x. From reading through the posts, it would appear that it works. I downloaded the driver from (I think) Meanies site. The installed driver says sdmmc-module ver 2.4.20. I have Cacko 1.23 installed on my 3200. I put in the card and it does not show up. I attempt to mount /dev/mmcda1 and it says "No such device'. dmesg|tail says (many times):

pxa_sd_wait_id_response:responce time out (cmd=01 MMC_STAT=0x2142)

Can't fdisk, etc. My digital camera sees it, wants to format it, but can't. Any ideas?
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get another Zaurus, you need a C3x00/C1000 in order for that module to work.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on December 08, 2006, 05:32:11 am
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I have an A-Data 4GB myFlash Turbo SD 150x. From reading through the posts, it would appear that it works. I downloaded the driver from (I think) Meanies site. The installed driver says sdmmc-module ver 2.4.20. I have Cacko 1.23 installed on my 3200. I put in the card and it does not show up. I attempt to mount /dev/mmcda1 and it says "No such device'. dmesg|tail says (many times):

pxa_sd_wait_id_response:responce time out (cmd=01 MMC_STAT=0x2142)

Can't fdisk, etc. My digital camera sees it, wants to format it, but can't. Any ideas?
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you need to reboot the Z after installing the patch?

it definitely works on my 3100 with cacko1.23, I tested using a 4GB card which also works in wife's Canon IXUS-750 digicam

BTW, it's formatted fat-32
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on December 08, 2006, 08:28:29 pm
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I have an A-Data 4GB myFlash Turbo SD 150x. From reading through the posts, it would appear that it works. I downloaded the driver from (I think) Meanies site. The installed driver says sdmmc-module ver 2.4.20. I have Cacko 1.23 installed on my 3200. I put in the card and it does not show up. I attempt to mount /dev/mmcda1 and it says "No such device'. dmesg|tail says (many times):

pxa_sd_wait_id_response:responce time out (cmd=01 MMC_STAT=0x2142)

Can't fdisk, etc. My digital camera sees it, wants to format it, but can't. Any ideas?
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get another Zaurus, you need a C3x00/C1000 in order for that module to work.
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I thought that an SL-C3200 was a C3x00? Since 4GB cards are at least $50 delivered, I can't afford to just keep buying them. I will read through the posts and see what folks have gotten to work and narrow the search. In my search I have seen a few discussions about tactics used to resurrect/format cards, I was hoping that you guys could give me some ideas on a last ditch effort to get this card to work. I will keep fooling with it before I give up. Thanks.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on December 08, 2006, 09:06:28 pm
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I thought that an SL-C3200 was a C3x00? Since 4GB cards are at least $50 delivered, I can't afford to just keep buying them. I will read through the posts and see what folks have gotten to work and narrow the search. In my search I have seen a few discussions about tactics used to resurrect/format cards, I was hoping that you guys could give me some ideas on a last ditch effort to get this card to work. I will keep fooling with it before I give up. Thanks.
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I think they were looking at your handle.  It says you have a C860..  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on December 09, 2006, 05:03:23 pm
another thing, once you've got the correct driver loaded, is to ensure that the card has a partition table - windows will cheerfully mount a fat32 formatted card where the card is entirely given over to the file system, linux wont. Use "fdisk" to create a partition, then "mkfs.vfat" to format it.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on December 25, 2006, 03:10:19 pm
Since attachments don't seem to be working, is there somewhere else to download Cresho's patch. The link from Tetsu's page is dead, so I can't even download his. Unfortunately the link from handheld software points right back to here. I can't find it in the pdaXrom repositories.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on December 25, 2006, 03:42:37 pm
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Since attachments don't seem to be working, is there somewhere else to download Cresho's patch. The link from Tetsu's page is dead, so I can't even download his. Unfortunately the link from handheld software points right back to here. I can't find it in the pdaXrom repositories.
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I tried sending you a copy of the tetsu driver using the private messaging system, I'm not sure if it went through.
Here's the filename, in case you want to google for it.
zaurus_sd_driver_update_cxxxx_1.0+tetsu_arm.ipk

I also tried to attach it here, that didn't work either.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Jon_J on December 25, 2006, 03:49:08 pm
I found it here:
http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/v...0+tetsu_arm.zip (http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/v18h/zaurus_sd_driver_update_cxxxx_1.0+tetsu_arm.zip)
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on December 25, 2006, 05:25:43 pm
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I found it here:
http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/v...0+tetsu_arm.zip (http://tetsu.homelinux.org/zaurus/kernel/v18h/zaurus_sd_driver_update_cxxxx_1.0+tetsu_arm.zip)
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Jon,

I was able to download it. Thanks for your help.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on December 27, 2006, 04:55:30 am
I put a copy in my downloads
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 05, 2007, 12:47:43 pm
I am thinking about purchasing a 4gb Transcend SD card here (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0), which is supposed to work, but after reading all the negative posts about problems with 4gb cards, I'm wondering if I am just wasting my time and money on something that may or may not work.
Or maybe it will work for awhile then quit.

The driver is greatly appreciated, and would be awesome if I thought it would "just work", but there are no guarantees even with this card that has already been mentioned to work.

Hmmm... what to do???  

EDIT:
Well, I ordered it anyway.
If it doesn't work correctly in the SD slot on my Z, it's bound to work in my USB SD card reader or in the SD slot on my laptop.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on January 05, 2007, 01:28:56 pm
Ever since I had this 4G card my Z productivity has gone up tremendously.  Especially with multimedia apps. Now I can pump out an audiobook or just run X/QT better with a huge swap partition.  Just my thoughts  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 05, 2007, 02:16:33 pm
Thanks for the report, harvell.
I'll report back on my *hopefully optimistic* success.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Cresho on January 06, 2007, 02:21:40 am
I had a patriot 2gb which worked flawlessly.  Then i grabed a 4gb one and it died all the time.  Went through 2 of them and decided to just call it quits.....recently, my 2gb died but that was my fault.  I did something nasty to it.

transcend seems good, hope it works and I am expecting to grab one sooner or later.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: pepilo on January 06, 2007, 04:03:11 am
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transcend seems good, hope it works and I am expecting to grab one sooner or later.
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Hi,

Transcend 4 GB SD works great in my Z since Sep 2006.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: HoloVector on January 06, 2007, 07:43:05 am
I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 06, 2007, 08:16:09 am
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Antikx on January 06, 2007, 12:44:59 pm
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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wow that's a great price!
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: cycle_55 on January 06, 2007, 01:00:55 pm
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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My reply isn't about sd cards as such and may not belong here but I feel compelled to comment on tigerdirect. My experience hasn't been quite the same as yours. They have a weird return policy where the customer has to try to deal with the manufacturer first before contacting tigerdirect. At least that is how it is with a business account. This can be and has been a real problem if one lives in Canada and the manufacturer is in the US and customs won't let the parcel through the border because the manufacturer won't supply the paperwork. This is how things stood a couple of years ago. As far as prices and selection go tigerdirect is certainly up there with the rest of the online suppliers.

cycle_55
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: deadite66 on January 06, 2007, 01:02:15 pm
flashed cacko 1.23 today on a C3200 and my 2GB sanddisk SD didn't work :< works great with this driver now o/
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 06, 2007, 02:19:53 pm
cycle_55,
I can see how a US/Canadian transaction could be rather frustrating if it was necessary to return an item.
But just for the record, Tiger Direct does in fact accept returns in 30 days on items that are marked as such.
That is the case for this Transcend SD Card (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0).
Just click on the "30 Day Guarantee" icon and you'll be presented with this page (http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/ironclad/index.asp).

Regards,
Doug
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on January 06, 2007, 02:52:13 pm
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cycle_55,
I can see how a US/Canadian transaction could be rather frustrating if it was necessary to return an item.
But just for the record, Tiger Direct does in fact accept returns in 30 days on items that are marked as such.
That is the case for this Transcend SD Card (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0).
Just click on the "30 Day Guarantee" icon and you'll be presented with this page (http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/ironclad/index.asp).

Regards,
Doug
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Doug,

Did this SD card work for you in Z?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 06, 2007, 02:59:27 pm
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Doug,

Did this SD card work for you in Z?
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I just ordered it yesterday, and it won't be delivered until next week.
I'll let you know how it works out.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: pepilo on January 06, 2007, 03:38:18 pm
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Doug,

Did this SD card work for you in Z?
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This card works in my Z without Probs.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: HoloVector on January 08, 2007, 08:29:53 pm
Not to sound alarmist here but, it looks like the Transcend 4GB SD that TigerDirect is offering is part of a blowout sale since Transcend (http://www.transcendusa.com/products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=87&LangNo=0) no longer lists that card on their website.  It appears that it was discontinued in favour of the new SDHC cards which aren't compatible in our Zs (at least not, yet).  I wasn't planning on going 4GB on my 1000 yet but, this turn of events is making me reconsider since I don't want my poor 1000 stuck at 2GB.

BTW, TigerDirect is also offering this Transcend card on their canadian store as well.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on January 08, 2007, 08:44:49 pm
If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Drake01 on January 08, 2007, 09:42:20 pm
I believe there's a thread that talks about how it shouldn't be long before the SD HC driver is available for us.  I'm wondering if I should not worry about this, or if I should grab another 4GB card for myself as a backup to the one I'm currently using.  If nothing else, my wife should be able to use it in her digital camera.

Hmmmm...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: John Galt on January 08, 2007, 09:47:26 pm
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
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Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Ling on January 08, 2007, 10:47:42 pm
Thanks for the tip, bought one. FREE Shipping. Yeah.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 09, 2007, 08:15:54 am
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=150497\")

Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
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 (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=150502\")
If you look again, this isn't the [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]same card[/url].
It's a different model number, plus there is no speed rating.
So it's probably just a standard speed compared to 150x (which might not make much difference on the Z anyway, as long as it works).
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: John Galt on January 09, 2007, 10:15:17 am
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If you froogle, there were other shops showing the same product in stock anywhere from $5 less to the same price in case TD runs out.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=150497\")

Also Buy.com has the 4GB SD Transcend for $49.95 at [a href=\"http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203938178&adid=17070&dcaid=17070]http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=...070&dcaid=17070[/url]
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 (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=150502\")
If you look again, this isn't the [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]same card[/url].
It's a different model number, plus there is no speed rating.
So it's probably just a standard speed compared to 150x (which might not make much difference on the Z anyway, as long as it works).
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oops, got too excited by the "dropping" prices...
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 09, 2007, 05:19:09 pm
Ok, here (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/SDCompatList#comment-327)'s my review of the 4GB Transcend SD Card I just purchased.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: HoloVector on January 16, 2007, 11:02:46 pm
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: harvell on January 16, 2007, 11:20:57 pm
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
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The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
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You could always perform surgery on Hachiko to add more hardware   hehehe.... you could enhance his hardware .....    
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: jochen-02 on January 17, 2007, 02:03:50 pm
From your posting on www.tyrannozaurus.com:
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I formatted that 4gb card to ext2 (mkfs.ext2) and this is what system info shows:

SD Card - /mnt/card ext2 : 3860MB
Used (196MB) Available (3664MB)

So I've lost 7% in file space due to linux filesystem overhead compared to Fat32.
Can anyone tell me what's up with that?
Did you add "-m 0" to mke2fs? Normally mke2fs reserves 5% of filesystem space wich can only be used by "root". That is to avoid dos situations if the filsystem is 100% filled (from normal user's point of view). root has additional 5% to give him/her the chance to delete some files. IMO this makes only sense in multi user environments. So you can reclaim this space on the Zaurus.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: dougeeebear on January 17, 2007, 06:22:50 pm
jochen-02,
The command line option "-m 0" worked out perfect.

Thanks a lot for that.

Doug
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Antikx on January 17, 2007, 10:18:42 pm
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jochen-02,
The command line option "-m 0" worked out perfect.

Thanks a lot for that.

Doug
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Hmmm... is this the same for ext3?
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: HoloVector on January 17, 2007, 10:55:35 pm
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I have had good success with Transcend SD and CF cards on my Zs.  They make a pretty solid product.  Although I haven't tried that particular card in my Zs yet.  I'm waiting for the local price to drop before I grab one.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=150257\")
The one I bought [a href=\"http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315930&Tab=0&NoMapp=0]here[/url] yesterday dropped in price by 10.00 right after I placed the order.
I called them and they gave me a credit.
I doubt you will find one any cheaper than that.
I've dealt with Tiger Direct for years, and they are excellent to do business with.

Regards,
Doug
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Yum! These are now under $60US and just over $76CAN.  I just couldn't resist at that price for a 4GB card that is guaranteed to work in a 1000.  Now Hachiko won't have disk envy when he looks at Bobby's hardware.    
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You could always perform surgery on Hachiko to add more hardware   hehehe.... you could enhance his hardware .....    
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With my soldering skills, I'd be more likely to neuter him!  
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on January 18, 2007, 08:21:01 am
yes, the mkfs program generally reserves space for non-root

it's actually a good thing to reserve the space, its prevent fragmentation when the disk gets quite full. The 10% is a historic thing from when disks were generally less than 1GB! If you've got a multi-GB disk then probably a few percent is OK (e.g. reserve perhaps ten times the size of the most common file?)

in flash memory, it could prevent premature wearing out because when files are rewritten they can be written to a different set of blocks; if the disk is 99.9% full then re-writing a file will inevitably have to keep rewriting the same blocks.

I don't know if the flash controllers on the cards understand the fat filesystem enough to do any special wear levelling, but that might be the case and explain why cards seem to wear out quicker using ext3. I would propose that it's a good thing if you do put a swap file on the card to regularly delete it and create a fresh one so as to spread the wear.

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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on January 18, 2007, 08:28:01 am
BTW, for cheap 4GB cards I've seen www.7dayshop.com do them very very cheap.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: jochen-02 on January 18, 2007, 01:39:39 pm
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Hmmm... is this the same for ext3?
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: jochen-02 on January 18, 2007, 01:42:45 pm
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I don't know if the flash controllers on the cards understand the fat filesystem enough to do any special wear levelling, but that might be the case and explain why cards seem to wear out quicker using ext3.
No, I think the reason is journal updates.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Antikx on January 18, 2007, 02:10:40 pm
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With my soldering skills, I'd be more likely to neuter him!   
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Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: Antikx on January 18, 2007, 02:14:50 pm
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Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
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Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: InSearchOf on January 18, 2007, 02:32:43 pm
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Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
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Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
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Journaling is GOOD! very good... but for a device (SD and CF) with a "write life" you dont want to waste its life span on journal writes...

Late
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on January 18, 2007, 04:27:04 pm
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Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
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it's also vital to check that your flash card is mounted "noatime" too so that every file or directory access doesn't result in updating the timestamps.
Title: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
Post by: speculatrix on January 18, 2007, 04:31:22 pm
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Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
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Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
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it's a balance. I'd hope that you don't lock up your Z too often, but if you are, then journalling would probably be a good thing - however, if you are really thrashing your memory cards with writes, you probably ought to get a microdrive. I'd rather get a corrupted memory card and reformat and replace its contents than have the card go bad.

Anyway, I would never keep the master and only copy of data on a memory card in case it goes bad or the device its in gets lost or stolen. I had a nice Viking ultra-hi-speed card stolen in a TomTom GO just before xmas