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Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Rayforever on April 05, 2006, 05:44:37 am
Where I can find it?  
I love Cacko better than Pdaxrom!!
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: DaemonsGR on April 05, 2006, 11:29:27 am
maybe 1.23?
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: xamindar on April 05, 2006, 01:04:16 pm
Aww, you got me excited.  I thought a new version just came out that fixed all the bugs in 1.23.  Dang.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Jon_J on April 05, 2006, 01:06:11 pm
Anybody know if a new version is in the "works"?
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: bluedevils on April 05, 2006, 02:01:37 pm
I don't "know", but I kind of doubt it.  I see anton less on the board these days and I'm guessing there are more pressing issues he must attend to.  Usually there would be a hotfix package that would come after a major release, but 1.23 seems to be the exception.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Jon_J on April 05, 2006, 02:46:13 pm
So does this mean Cacko development is dead?
With the C3200 and maybe a newer model mentioned in another post (C3500)?
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=120145 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18405&view=findpost&p=120145)
I would think Cacko would still have updates.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: maslovsky on May 05, 2006, 02:50:55 pm
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So does this mean Cacko development is dead?
With the C3200 and maybe a newer model mentioned in another post (C3500)?
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=120145 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18405&view=findpost&p=120145)
I would think Cacko would still have updates.
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Yes, I'm planning to have 1.23 released for C3200 ans C3000 soon.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: bluedevils on May 05, 2006, 04:21:23 pm
Glad to see you posting Anton!
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: speculatrix on May 08, 2006, 03:48:34 pm
cacko1.23 is an awesome package, and I apart from minor updates perhaps for drivers, I think, in a sense, it's "finished". Anton did a great job, and I am curious to know if he has some new Zaurus idea up his sleeve as it's bound to raise a lot of interest (perhaps teaming up with AlbertR to do a C1000W!)
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Rayforever on May 08, 2006, 10:30:51 pm
Anton,great job!
I love Cacko best.It is so easy to work!
Waitting for the update.....
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: maslovsky on May 09, 2006, 06:34:44 am
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cacko1.23 is an awesome package, and I apart from minor updates perhaps for drivers, I think, in a sense, it's "finished". Anton did a great job, and I am curious to know if he has some new Zaurus idea up his sleeve as it's bound to raise a lot of interest (perhaps teaming up with AlbertR to do a C1000W!)
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I bought a C3000 for hardware experiments, such as RAM (and maybe internal flash) upgrade
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: bluedevils on May 09, 2006, 11:05:17 am
Hi Anton,

I don't know if this has been addressed, but is the bug with the lowest brightness setting fixable?
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: maslovsky on May 10, 2006, 05:48:43 am
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Hi Anton,

I don't know if this has been addressed, but is the bug with the lowest brightness setting fixable?
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Could be, I can't tell right now. In any case it will only be fixed in a ROM update or new version. What I'm currently working on is a port of existing ROM to C3000 "as it".
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: RGRICH on June 27, 2006, 09:53:47 pm
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Hi Anton,

I don't know if this has been addressed, but is the bug with the lowest brightness setting fixable?
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Could be, I can't tell right now. In any case it will only be fixed in a ROM update or new version. What I'm currently working on is a port of existing ROM to C3000 "as it".
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Hi Anton,
 Any update on the port of Cacko 1.23 to the C3000?
Thanks,
 Randy
 Anxious C3000 user
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Snappy on June 28, 2006, 04:25:58 am
But heart skipped a beat when I read this thread too!

ah well ... must say that its pretty good as it is ... and so far for me ... has no showstopper bugs.

Thanks Anton!
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: harvell on June 28, 2006, 12:20:21 pm
I was getting a little scared that Anton might have fell off..... Because of that I'm skipping lunch today and donating that budgeted $5 to his paypal account.... Come on guys if you don't develop like me but you still depend on him for developing cool stuff you have to give something up.... a great thank you will only go so far..... just my 2 cents....

$5 might not be alot but if 20 people do it than that'll give him something to work with.... maybe a night on the town with his partner to make up for the time he taking away coding stuff.  
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: speculatrix on June 29, 2006, 11:31:50 am
if every cacko user gave just US$5 to Anton, he'd have enough money to buy yet another Z for the next development

1.23 worked practically without fault (except a few device drivers, where I imagine he didn't have the hardware to test), so in a sense it's "finished". maybe he'll port it to the 6000, or even the HTC universal.

however, I hope there will be a 1.24 or even a 2.00 depending on what happens to Qt/e & Qtopia .

Perhaps Trolltech will release some of the phone apps as GPL so we can use them on Zaurus with bluetooth phones or gsm/gprs adaptors like Audiovox or Enfora.
http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php (http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php)
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: gr8ful on June 29, 2006, 12:33:10 pm
I'd definitely be willing to contribute to a Cacko upgrade.  Maybe Anton can chime in and let us know whether he plans to put out a 1.24 or 2.0 version.

My C1000 should arrive within the next 2-3 days and I will definitely be flashing it with Cacko.  If Anton has no further plans to upgrade, I am really liking what is going on in the OZ camp.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: baallrog on June 30, 2006, 02:21:07 am
2.6 kernel and a new gui like E17 could be the things make me definitely choose cacko rom !!

i dream ...
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: speculatrix on June 30, 2006, 08:25:46 am
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2.6 kernel and a new gui like E17 could be the things make me definitely choose cacko rom !!

i dream ...
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you miss the whole point of Cacko - it's Sharp compatible, meaning all the standard Sharp software runs on it, but

* the kernel is the same version as Sharp and so is 100% compatible, and Anton has back-ported updates and drivers in later 2.4.x kernels to improve stability and add hardware compatibility
* it's QT/Qtopia based because that's what Sharp requires, with many of the original Sharp built-ins replaced with newer/better versions
* the best of all the different versions of Sharp software released for all zauruses has been harvested, fixed up, cleaned up and put into packages for easy installation

Thus an E17 + kernel 2.6 would be an entirely different distribution and of no interest to the people who chose to use Cacko.

If you want bleeding edge kernels, and are willing to dive in and tweak the system, then OZ is where you want to go. If you want a "it works without fuss" PDA with internet features then Cacko is ideal.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: tirant on July 05, 2006, 11:11:08 am
I just want to thank Anton for all the work he is doing for us Zaurus users. My c760 has become a great tool for me thanks to Cacko rom. I hope i can donate 10$ to you in the next days.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: xamindar on July 05, 2006, 11:58:26 am
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* the best of all the different versions of Sharp software released for all zauruses has been harvested, fixed up, cleaned up and put into packages for easy installation

Just gotta say, I don't think that is true.  There are a few things that "came back" with cacko that were not on my 3100 rom.  These things were on my old 5600 and I was happy for the change in the new 3100 roms.  So I think cacko still uses some older stuff.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: speculatrix on July 06, 2006, 06:03:44 am
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* the best of all the different versions of Sharp software released for all zauruses has been harvested, fixed up, cleaned up and put into packages for easy installation

Just gotta say, I don't think that is true.  There are a few things that "came back" with cacko that were not on my 3100 rom.  These things were on my old 5600 and I was happy for the change in the new 3100 roms.  So I think cacko still uses some older stuff.
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I would guess then it depends on what Anton is able to get hold of. I'm sure he would be happy to receive updated packages from the 3200 people with the latest Sharp apps in them. I presume you contacted him with the packages you'd like to be updated and offered to test the results?
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: xamindar on July 06, 2006, 12:39:23 pm
Most of the issues I had were with the OS its self and not with any particular app except maybe the netmon app.

I posted many times in his threads about the various problems but he never ever responded to any of my posts.  I'm willing to test anything he releases and offer any help I can but it seems to me that he doesn't care.

One simple thing I can think of is to remove that custom screensaver as it messes with the proper power settings in the zaurus.  But I really don't think he cares.  I gave up and went back to the original sharp rom.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: koen on July 06, 2006, 12:46:42 pm
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Perhaps Trolltech will release some of the phone apps as GPL so we can use them on Zaurus with bluetooth phones or gsm/gprs adaptors like Audiovox or Enfora.
http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php (http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php)
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It'll be a cold that in hell when that happens, especially considering that trolltech doesn't even want qt/e4 to be gpl'ed (nobody buys their excuses anymore).
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: Mickeyl on July 06, 2006, 02:08:59 pm
Make that qtopia4, qt/embedded 4 doesn't exist due to that marketing trick *cough*. qtopia core 4 is gpl'ed at least.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: lpotter on July 10, 2006, 02:44:13 pm
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Perhaps Trolltech will release some of the phone apps as GPL so we can use them on Zaurus with bluetooth phones or gsm/gprs adaptors like Audiovox or Enfora.
http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php (http://www.qtopia.net/themes/Trolltech/screens.php)
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It'll be a cold that in hell when that happens, especially considering that trolltech doesn't even want qt/e4 to be gpl'ed (nobody buys their excuses anymore).
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You dont have to believe the reasons why Trolltech hasn't released Qtopia (besides Qtopia Core) under the GPL. But if you would dig a bit deeper into the phone industry, you might find out it's not just excuses. Among other things, why do you think there are only installable java apps for phones? It's because operators are paranoid (with good measure) that someone could wreak havok on their private and highly regulated networks.

and what do you care, you seem to disrespect Trolltech any chance you can get.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: speculatrix on July 10, 2006, 05:02:29 pm
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Among other things, why do you think there are only installable java apps for phones? It's because operators are paranoid (with good measure) that someone could wreak havok on their private and highly regulated networks.
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In this aspect I would agree with lpotter... the phone system is designed to work with very thin clients (phones), and the security of the system relies on a fairly thin layer of security provided by the SIM card and it locking down the keys to access the network.

The phone systems were designed with very little, or no, internal security, and this legacy has haunted the operators. Here's an interesting article:
[a href=\"http://pda.mobileeurope.co.uk/magazine/features.ehtml?o=114]http://pda.mobileeurope.co.uk/magazine/features.ehtml?o=114[/url]

That said, Trolltech are squeezed between Microsoft's WinCE, Symbian and the various proprietary tookits, and I know from experience that selling developer licences for software is tough, especially if you want to have customers in countries such as China where respect for any intellectual property is weak.
Title: Cacko 1.24?
Post by: washo on December 03, 2006, 12:55:45 pm
Hi
Im running cacko full 1.23 and I was wondering if a 1.24 will ever be released.
Some softwares have updates and it would be cool to have them directly inside the distrib
Anyway, thanks for 1.23

see you