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Everything Else => Sharp Zaurus => Model Specific Forums => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => 5x00 General discussions => Topic started by: EzerchE on April 30, 2006, 01:20:47 pm
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Which rom should i use with 5600? i tried gpe, opie and sharp roms.
Opie freezes everytime and when i try to install a package it gives linkling error...
with gpe works better then opie i want to use that but when i open package manager its closes package manager after the update ipkg and i didnt change the clock.
Sharp rom is very slover then opie and gpe.
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What chip do you have in your Sharp? PXA250 or PXA255?
If you don't know, it's on the front of that lovely blue box it came in.
Basically, The Sharp Rom is slower, because it has some fixes for a bug in the PXA250 processor that they first shipped with. Later models used the PXA255, with no bug, but the same Rom, with the slower "fixed" kernel.
the OZ rom uses a special Kernel with no fix, which means it is unstable on a PXA250 processor, but fine with a PXA255.
If you have a 255, feel free to use OZ. With a 250, we kinda have to live with the speed, I have one too.
If you're really desperate, upgrade to a C3200. XD
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actually we submit both kernels, but repeatedly suffer from people using the 255 kernel on 250 models and blaming us for crashes *sigh*
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So how the hell do you guys get the speed boost?
When I tested the GPE image on Cortana, it was going ridiculously fast!
Ok, my abandonment was more on reasons of functionality than crashing, OZ never crashed on me, I didn't give it long enough to. XP
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So how the hell do you guys get the speed boost?
When I tested the GPE image on Cortana, it was going ridiculously fast!
Ok, my abandonment was more on reasons of functionality than crashing, OZ never crashed on me, I didn't give it long enough to. XP
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is watapon still alive?
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I dunno about watapon but I believe Poodles best bet is either:
- Staying with Sharp ROM which should be stable enough (not that I've ever tried heh)
- Hoping someone creates a new distro based on Sharp ROM and use that
- Waiting for OZ with Kernel 2.6 for Poodle (which is beeing worked on)
Kernel 2.4 is a bad joke on Poodle, really. 2.6 totally blows it out of the water. Poodle feels like a brand new PDA with the new kernel, and I'm not kidding
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Ferret-Simpson: the speed boost comes from g++ 3.x (which contains xscale optimizations, 2.95 does not) and from using soft-float (floating point emulation in userland, not in kernelland).
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Is ther any benchmark test for various ROMs?
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Kernel 2.4 is a bad joke on Poodle, really. 2.6 totally blows it out of the water. Poodle feels like a brand new PDA with the new kernel, and I'm not kidding
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GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want decent Movie Playback!!!!
Ya think I'd be able to get Sharp Rom to run on a new 2.6 kernel? XP
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Kernel 2.4 is a bad joke on Poodle, really. 2.6 totally blows it out of the water. Poodle feels like a brand new PDA with the new kernel, and I'm not kidding
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GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want decent Movie Playback!!!!
Ya think I'd be able to get Sharp Rom to run on a new 2.6 kernel? XP
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A test Opie image (far from finished) can be found here:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/Poodle-Kernel-2.6/]http://hentges.net/tmp/Poodle-Kernel-2.6/[/url]
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Hmmm. . .. I'll need to take a system backup first. . . Which album gets it? Follow the leader? Or Rosenrot?
Meh. Korn reminds me too much of my ex-girlfriend. Goodbye!!!
Besides, I can always re-load it from my Windows box (Don't worry, I've replaced part of the OS with Open Source code anyway!)
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Umm. . . Nand backup? Service menu right? Can that just be installed from SD card, like a normal flash?
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Note to self:
OPIE kernel WILL NOT RUN Sharp Rom.
Flashing. . . Flashing. . .
Ok, now the lights are flashing. They're going crazy!
Something to fix on the next release. . . . Is the Mail icon set to act as a HDD access indicator or something (HDD meaning of course Flash) Or is that just a random bug?
Well, SSH generates keys no faster. XD
libZkbapplet NOT FOUND
Starting OE
Hmmm. . . nice. . . Needs packages though
usual OE ones work?
Cheers! I like it!
Ferret.
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Hmmm. . . Not a big fan of the rom overall, am bored, so will try OZ 3.5.4 on the 2.6Kernel
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Note to self:
OPIE kernel WILL NOT RUN Sharp Rom.
No surprise there =)
Flashing. . . Flashing. . .
Ok, now the lights are flashing. They're going crazy!
The flashing process does not differ from a 2.4 kernel.
Something to fix on the next release. . . . Is the Mail icon set to act as a HDD access indicator or something (HDD meaning of course Flash) Or is that just a random bug?
The Mail LED is indeed a "HDD" activity indicator with all OZ 2.6 kernels.
Well, SSH generates keys no faster. XD
libZkbapplet NOT FOUND
That can be ignored. You will not see this message in a normal OZ image
Starting OE
s/OE/Opie/
Hmmm. . . nice. . . Needs packages though
usual OE ones work?
Yep, they should work just fine.
Cheers! I like it!
Ferret.
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Hmmm. . . Not a big fan of the rom overall, am bored, so will try OZ 3.5.4 on the 2.6Kernel
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Kernel 2.6 on a normal 3.5.4 ROM is going to fail horribly. [a href=\"http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/kernel-26-on-poodle-status-page/]Countless packages[/url] were adjusted for kernel 2.6 on Poodle since 3.5.4 was released.
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Might have worked, if it wasn't for the different modules.
Good job though! It's off to a damn good start! How long before a GPE "FAIRLY" stable release is out? heh GIVE ME BACK MY INIT!
Keep on hacking. That was incredibly fast, and incredibly stable. Owns Sharp 2.6! Just needs the rest of the rom to be finished. Will try and reflash Sharp 1.32 to see if I can get back safely.
BRB Ferret.
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And it went back to SharpRom perfectly ^^
No maintenance menu required!
EDIT: Oh, and my SD card worked fine!
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Just a question, are there any updates on the kernel and rom yet? Really looking forward to this. *^^*
Ferret.
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Just a question, are there any updates on the kernel and rom yet? Really looking forward to this. *^^*
Ferret.
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What kind of updates are you looking for? I, personaly can't think of any.
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It's the (Currently Under Development) 2.6 kernel and matching ROM
It's INCREDIBLE.
According to the onboard benchmarks, my Poodle is giving:
Integer Arithmetic: 495768 dhrys C-750: 490677
FPU: 2.83 secs C-750: 2.452 secs
Text Rendering: 614 chars/sec C-750: 437 Chars/sec
Gfx Rendering: 2842.33 gops/sec C-750: 1396 gops/sec
RAM Performance: 14.58MB/s; 3.08MB/s C-750: 132.06 kb/sec
Haven't got Network access on it yet, or my new BIG SD-card to upload the feed onto, So I can't test it with the normal apps or anything yet. . . . But those benchmarks are just. . . . COOL!
Now you understand why I'm so excited? XD
That's a PXA250 5600 with 2.6 kernel build 21/05/2006 To have a 250 Poodle outperform a 750 is pretty funky on the whole. . . Considering how slow it is on the Sharp ROM.
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hmm, interesting. Thanks for the info. Maybe I can dust off my poodle.
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|glares horrified|
YOU
DON'T
USE
YOUR
POODLE???????????
Shocked!
yeah. I backed up, formatted, and reflashed my poodle again today, since it's the holidays and I ain't using it for anything Mission-critical.
As you can see by my posted benchmarks (Which I need to email to handhelds.org when I've got the card read one's done)
This rom 15 73H UB()R!!!!!!!!
Gone insane and am downloading the entire 3.5.4 OPIE feed, as well as a couple of base packages from the POODLE feed. Got a 512 SD card arriving tomorrow or friday, as well as a new router (My first wifi ) and a new CF802.11B the week after. Which means I'll be able to benchmark video on this.
I think probably, when it's available for the 2.6 kernel, I'll migrate to GPE. I use my zaurus as a PC, not a PDA, so QT based Display managers like OPIE, While Awesome, aren't really suitable for me. When I've got the new parts, and CD finishes the greatest piece of coding in Poodle history, I'll have a zaurus that Duncan Steele would be proud of.
Next big challenges for me:
1: Get a HTC Universal and get GPE running on that aswell.
2: Learn C for objective 3.
3: Get a 5500 or another 5600 and port AROS
4: Learn Russian. User Friendly's fault. (DAMN YOU ILLIAD!) Nyet. Am runnink Linux Shop. No need for NT serrverrrrr.
Anyway: YOUR next challenge:
Since by your own TRULY HORRIFYING admission, your Poodle isn't in use, so go now! Follow the link earlier in the thread, and play with OZ/OPIE/2.6 - It's AWESOME!!!!
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I was encouraged by this message to install the experimental 2.6 kernel on my poodle. So far, so good. At least it boots.
I'd like to install cardfs but I have no idea which one to use. The only Poodle cardfs image I can find is for 3.5.3 Release T3. Or should I use the 3.5.4.1 T1 cardfs for collie?
If I find the right cardfs image then I have one more question. I was having some trouble with my 1 GB SD card after I formatted it with ext2. Lots of problems with fsck, corruption, etc. So I reformatted it back to FAT16 and created a ext2 loopback filesystem on the card.
Here's what the relevant stuff in /etc/fstab says:
/dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/sd auto defaults,sync,noauto 0 0
/mnt/sd/filesys /mnt/card ext2 defaults,loop
I also changed /etc/altboot-2.6.cfg. The one change I made was to the SD_DEVICE variable. I changed it from:
SD_DEVICE="/dev/mmcblk0p1"
to:
SD_DEVICE="/mnt/sd/filesys"
I hope this enables me to load the root filesystem from the loopback filesystem. Is there anything else I should change?
Thanks for the work on poodle. I really love my Zaurus.
It's the (Currently Under Development) 2.6 kernel and matching ROM
It's INCREDIBLE.
According to the onboard benchmarks, my Poodle is giving:
Integer Arithmetic: 495768 dhrys C-750: 490677
FPU: 2.83 secs C-750: 2.452 secs
Text Rendering: 614 chars/sec C-750: 437 Chars/sec
Gfx Rendering: 2842.33 gops/sec C-750: 1396 gops/sec
RAM Performance: 14.58MB/s; 3.08MB/s C-750: 132.06 kb/sec
Haven't got Network access on it yet, or my new BIG SD-card to upload the feed onto, So I can't test it with the normal apps or anything yet. . . . But those benchmarks are just. . . . COOL!
Now you understand why I'm so excited? XD
That's a PXA250 5600 with 2.6 kernel build 21/05/2006 To have a 250 Poodle outperform a 750 is pretty funky on the whole. . . Considering how slow it is on the Sharp ROM.
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I think you'd have to build your own cardFS image from scratch with the 2.6 rom.
Hey, fancy trying out mplayer or something? Just to see (Even without sound) How much the performance increases.
That or FinalF6 in Snes9x?
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Do you know what snes9x ipk to install? I noticed that snes9x isn't included in the official 3.5.4 feed. I didn't try mplayer before but I'll give it a go now and see how it works.
I think you'd have to build your own cardFS image from scratch with the 2.6 rom.
Hey, fancy trying out mplayer or something? Just to see (Even without sound) How much the performance increases.
That or FinalF6 in Snes9x?
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My ipk came from www.killefiz.de/zaurus
just search for snes.
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mplayer works great. Video is smooth and I get about 25-30 fps.
prboom is really fast! I was getting motion sick looking at the screen.
I downloaded snes9x from the killefiz site. I used this URL:
http://www.suhami.net/zaurus/snes/snes9x-030713.zip (http://www.suhami.net/zaurus/snes/snes9x-030713.zip)
When I try running snes9x, I get this error message:
/mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: symbol lookup error: /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: undefined symbol: __14QPEApplicationRiPPcQ212QApplication4Type
I suspect that it has to do with missing or outdated libraries that are required. I'm using the libsdl from the 3.5.4 feed and not the libsdl mentioned on the killefiz site because it's older and it didn't work. I got this error when I tried it:
/mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0: undefined symbol: cmd__12QPaintDeviceiP8QPainterP13QPDevCmdParam
I haven't had much luck installing quite a few of the games in the 3.5.4 feed. froot, gemdropx, and gnuz all gave segmentation faults and opie-kpacman and opie-qasteroids didn't work either. The only game that worked out of the box was brickout.
Have you had success with the packages in the 3.5.4 feed?
My ipk came from www.killefiz.de/zaurus
just search for snes.
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mplayer works great. Video is smooth and I get about 25-30 fps.
prboom is really fast! I was getting motion sick looking at the screen.
I downloaded snes9x from the killefiz site. I used this URL:
http://www.suhami.net/zaurus/snes/snes9x-030713.zip (http://www.suhami.net/zaurus/snes/snes9x-030713.zip)
When I try running snes9x, I get this error message:
/mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: symbol lookup error: /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: undefined symbol: __14QPEApplicationRiPPcQ212QApplication4Type
I suspect that it has to do with missing or outdated libraries that are required. I'm using the libsdl from the 3.5.4 feed and not the libsdl mentioned on the killefiz site because it's older and it didn't work. I got this error when I tried it:
/mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/snes9x: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0: undefined symbol: cmd__12QPaintDeviceiP8QPainterP13QPDevCmdParam
I haven't had much luck installing quite a few of the games in the 3.5.4 feed. froot, gemdropx, and gnuz all gave segmentation faults and opie-kpacman and opie-qasteroids didn't work either. The only game that worked out of the box was brickout.
Have you had success with the packages in the 3.5.4 feed?
My ipk came from www.killefiz.de/zaurus
just search for snes.
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try the 3.5.4.1 feed instead
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So mplayer and prboom is good?
hey, maybe even zPSX could run. XD
Hey cool, sound is now good!
Is there a new test kernel and image downloadable for this (GPE?) Where do i go to get it if there is?
Looks like it's pretty much ready for users, at least in GPE's case.
Last few bugs aren't the kind to kill me!
You've done this really well, and really fast. I hereby name you Ferret-Simpson's coder-of-the-year.
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I tried the 3.5.4.1 feed - I'm seeing the same problems as with the 3.5.4 packages. It's somewhat of a crapshoot as to what packages work and what don't.
If your snes9x works, can you point me toward a place where I can download an ipk?
Like you, I'm also interested in finding out how to download a binary of the 2.6.17 test kernel. Having sound would be very nice.
So mplayer and prboom is good?
hey, maybe even zPSX could run. XD
Hey cool, sound is now good!
Is there a new test kernel and image downloadable for this (GPE?) Where do i go to get it if there is?
Looks like it's pretty much ready for users, at least in GPE's case.
Last few bugs aren't the kind to kill me!
You've done this really well, and really fast. I hereby name you Ferret-Simpson's coder-of-the-year.
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You'd need the initRD as well, do a complete reflash. Also, GPE is better than OPIE (IMHO) So I'd like to try that out on here as well.
Hopefully the packages will work better on 2.6.17? That's the kernel in 3.5.4.1, right? Where as 3.5.4 is a 2.4.X and we're on 2.6.12. . . Correctamundo?
Coreduuuump. . .? |looks smiling and happy and hopeful|
I don't suppose you fancy releasing the latest version to us hungry betatesters do you?
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Ah. 2.6.16
And apparently a new release is "./17-JUL-06/COMING SOON"
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Ah. 2.6.16
And apparently a new release is "./17-JUL-06/COMING SOON"
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It took a bit longer than expected but here it is:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/Poodle-Kernel-2.6/17-JUL-06/]http://hentges.net/tmp/Poodle-Kernel-2.6/17-JUL-06/[/url]
The GPE version needs hotkey bindings (edit /etc/keylaunchrc for that)
Sound drivers are installed but currently you'll get nasty distortions after any sound is played.
There is a alsa-mixer configuration which enables perfect sound (after rebooting) since RP's sound worked just fine. After he installed my asound.state he got caught by the distortions, too. Sadly he overwrote his working asound.state.
Soo....if you manage to find the working settings (using alsamixer) let me know =)
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Well, I just installed and tried both opie and gpe. What everyone says is true, my little is fast. I have always liked GPE and would like to use it, but is was sloooww on the poodle.
One question now, is getting it to recognize my network card. Maybe I missed other posts regarding this, but when I try and assign any driver, it does not work. I have an Ambicom WL1100C card.
Great work on this.
Chuck
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As soon as I saw coredump's message, I grabbed up the latest kernel, hentges GPE image, and the cardfs image. I figured it was now time to try GPE.
I found that I liked GPE better than Opie. I like the idea of running X on my PDA and I'm familiar with the GNOME interface. Unfortunately I ran into a lot of problems with GPE. I have a 1 GB SD card formatted with FAT32. I tried formatting it with ext2 a while ago before but ran into many fsck problems. So I created a 900 MB loopback filesystem and formatted it with ext2. I changed /etc/fstab so it mounts the SD card into /mnt/sd and the loopback filesystem into /media/card. I've been using this loopback filesystem with Opie and the 2.6.16 kernel without any problems.
But for some reason, my GPE installation would periodically lock up when it was doing a disk operation. I would do something as simple as "rm -r <directory>" on a tiny directory on the SD card and the command would never finish and go back to the prompt. This also happened when I tried to install various packages on the card. Sometimes the disk light would constantly light up as if the system was thrashing, but other times I wouldn't see the light very much. I tried killing the process, rebooting, etc. The only way to stop the locked up process was to do a hard reset of the system.
I thought it might be related to the SD card and the new kernel and initrd image. So I reformatted the SD card with FAT32 and then recreated the loopback filesystem just in case. Unfortunately I ran into the same problems afterward.
So I flashed my poodle back to the 3.5.4.1 RC2 Opie image with the 2.6.17 kernel. Once again I don't have any problems. I'm not sure why GPE would give problems but Opie works OK. The fact that I'm using the same kernel means that it's probably not a driver issue. Could it be a userspace program that has problems? No idea.
But I hope to find why GPE locks up. I wouuld like to move back to it.
You'd need the initRD as well, do a complete reflash. Also, GPE is better than OPIE (IMHO) So I'd like to try that out on here as well.
Hopefully the packages will work better on 2.6.17? That's the kernel in 3.5.4.1, right? Where as 3.5.4 is a 2.4.X and we're on 2.6.12. . . Correctamundo?
Coreduuuump. . .? |looks smiling and happy and hopeful|
I don't suppose you fancy releasing the latest version to us hungry betatesters do you?
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Gimme a few days to find somewhere to back up my drive to (Or buy ANOTHER SD card. . .) And I'll give this a try.
Coredump, you're the MAN!
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Would I be mistaken in assuming that this experimental opie (2.6 on poodle) does not contain 80% of the apps of the standard feed like the cardfs FEature list says? I installed it but I have a very limited set of apps compared to what I had on my opie 3.5.4. However speed and stability are insanely good. But my Wifi card and USB networking do not work. Has anyone tried mplayer? That was my major problem with 3.5.4 no decent video. Coredump are you Herr Hentges?
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Would I be mistaken in assuming that this experimental opie (2.6 on poodle) does not contain 80% of the apps of the standard feed like the cardfs FEature list says? I installed it but I have a very limited set of apps compared to what I had on my opie 3.5.4. However speed and stability are insanely good. But my Wifi card and USB networking do not work. Has anyone tried mplayer? That was my major problem with 3.5.4 no decent video. Coredump are you Herr Hentges?
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Try grabbing the packages you miss from the feeds
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Would I be mistaken in assuming that this experimental opie (2.6 on poodle) does not contain 80% of the apps of the standard feed like the cardfs FEature list says? I installed it but I have a very limited set of apps compared to what I had on my opie 3.5.4. However speed and stability are insanely good. But my Wifi card and USB networking do not work. Has anyone tried mplayer? That was my major problem with 3.5.4 no decent video. Coredump are you Herr Hentges?
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Try grabbing the packages you miss from the feeds
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There's a problem with that: My wifi card doesn't work with the new ROM neither does my USB connection (my laptop just doesn't see it) so I have no way of accessing the feed from my Z. Downloading single ipks from the feed would be a dependency nightmare. I am not sure what driver my wireless card needs. I tried modprobe hostap but it still doesn't work. It worked fine under 3.5.4 though. Does the cardfs image have all the packages like the Cardfs feature list says or does the feature list not apply to this experimental ROM. I noticed that the cardfs feature list says it only works on sl 5000 and sl 5500.
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Erk. . . That sounds like it could be a problem.
You could always try what I did on my last attempt. . .?
I downloaded the entire packagefeed onto my SD-card. ^^
EDIT:
Just a point in note, I used Konqueror and KGET to make downloading easier. It just took all the links and saved them all to the directory of my choice.
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How did you install all of them? Did you have to do a "ipkg -d sd install <package filename>" and then "ipkg-link add <package name>" for all of them?
Erk. . . That sounds like it could be a problem.
You could always try what I did on my last attempt. . .?
I downloaded the entire packagefeed onto my SD-card. ^^
EDIT:
Just a point in note, I used Konqueror and KGET to make downloading easier. It just took all the links and saved them all to the directory of my choice.
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Actually, I just used the GUI. ^^
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Erk. . . That sounds like it could be a problem.
You could always try what I did on my last attempt. . .?
I downloaded the entire packagefeed onto my SD-card. ^^
EDIT:
Just a point in note, I used Konqueror and KGET to make downloading easier. It just took all the links and saved them all to the directory of my choice.
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Ok never mind I am a retard. It turns out that my SD card is a little skizzled and won't let me install the cardfs so I installed it on my CF microdrive and now I have all the apps as promised. However since the cardfs is on my microdrive I can't put in my wifi card and USB networking still isn't working. I am trying to connect it to my WinXP (ducks to avoid a stoning) laptop but the laptop just doesn't see it and the Z doesn't auto setup the connection like it used to with 3.5.4. I guess what I am going to do is buy another SD or MMC card and install to that. Anyone have any suggestions for a nice 1 gig card that is known to work?
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Erk. . . That sounds like it could be a problem.
You could always try what I did on my last attempt. . .?
I downloaded the entire packagefeed onto my SD-card. ^^
EDIT:
Just a point in note, I used Konqueror and KGET to make downloading easier. It just took all the links and saved them all to the directory of my choice.
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Ok never mind I am a retard. It turns out that my SD card is a little skizzled and won't let me install the cardfs so I installed it on my CF microdrive and now I have all the apps as promised. However since the cardfs is on my microdrive I can't put in my wifi card and USB networking still isn't working. I am trying to connect it to my WinXP (ducks to avoid a stoning) laptop but the laptop just doesn't see it and the Z doesn't auto setup the connection like it used to with 3.5.4. I guess what I am going to do is buy another SD or MMC card and install to that. Anyone have any suggestions for a nice 1 gig card that is known to work?
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The 2.6 kernel uses the g_ether driver for usb networking now. First, make sure to run modprobe g_ether
ifup usb0That should bring up your interface on the Z. Note that it is now usb0 and no longer usbd0. Next, follow the instructions on this site to get the windows driver installed:
[a href=\"http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/WindowsXpUsbNetworkHowTo]http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Win...UsbNetworkHowTo[/url]
you may need to remove the old sharp drivers in order to get internet connection sharing to work. I use this setup to get my Z online when I am at work (Just don't tell my IT guys.. )
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Erk. . . That sounds like it could be a problem.
You could always try what I did on my last attempt. . .?
I downloaded the entire packagefeed onto my SD-card. ^^
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Just a point in note, I used Konqueror and KGET to make downloading easier. It just took all the links and saved them all to the directory of my choice.
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Ok never mind I am a retard. It turns out that my SD card is a little skizzled and won't let me install the cardfs so I installed it on my CF microdrive and now I have all the apps as promised. However since the cardfs is on my microdrive I can't put in my wifi card and USB networking still isn't working. I am trying to connect it to my WinXP (ducks to avoid a stoning) laptop but the laptop just doesn't see it and the Z doesn't auto setup the connection like it used to with 3.5.4. I guess what I am going to do is buy another SD or MMC card and install to that. Anyone have any suggestions for a nice 1 gig card that is known to work?
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The 2.6 kernel uses the g_ether driver for usb networking now. First, make sure to run modprobe g_ether
ifup usb0That should bring up your interface on the Z. Note that it is now usb0 and no longer usbd0. Next, follow the instructions on this site to get the windows driver installed:
[a href=\"http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/WindowsXpUsbNetworkHowTo]http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Win...UsbNetworkHowTo[/url]
you may need to remove the old sharp drivers in order to get internet connection sharing to work. I use this setup to get my Z online when I am at work (Just don't tell my IT guys.. )
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Hey thanks for the help USB is working now however it appears that when my Z is connected my laptops internet connection is no longer working so I will have to look in to that when I get some more time. I saw on you signature thay you have a homebuilt gps unit. Are you using that with your Z? If so would you have plans to build one? I am somewhat handy with a soldering iron and circuit boards. I was thinking of getting a BR305 GPS reciever for my Z but they are a tad expensive.
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Hey thanks for the help USB is working now however it appears that when my Z is connected my laptops internet connection is no longer working so I will have to look in to that when I get some more time. I saw on you signature thay you have a homebuilt gps unit. Are you using that with your Z? If so would you have plans to build one? I am somewhat handy with a soldering iron and circuit boards. I was thinking of getting a BR305 GPS reciever for my Z but they are a tad expensive.
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Yes, I have used it in the past on my 5600 with both zroadmap and qpegps. Basically it is an old IBM/RFMD GPS module with a 3.3V Regulator and an inverter to get the serial port working. I got the module off EBay. If I were to do this again, I think I would try to find a more mainstream module tho. I have not been able to find the full documentation on the RFMD Binary protocol and It seems to have some quirks to it. The Unit is hooked up to ttyS0 using the sharp docking connector. You will need to disable the standard serial console to get this working. Threre should be a couple of old threads on how to do all that.
Happy hacking.
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Not got my installation yet. Hopefully soon. I just don't want to lose all my great music tracks from my SD card! I have a spare, but it's only 128MB. . .
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I just got a new SD card and installed the cardfs to it. It works great except for my wifi card which worked under 3.5.4. I do a modprobe hostap_cs to install the driver. (I believe this was the driver it used under 3.5.4. and insert the card. If I run iwconfig I see wlan0 as an available interface but I get nothing but errors when I try to set any config values eg: essid, key, channel etc. In the Opie network config applet if I try to rescan neighborhood nothing happens and wellenreiter says "can't bring up interface wlan0 no such device." Could anyone point me in the right direction to start looking? Thanks
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Has anyone had problems accessing the 3.5.4.1 feeds? I have tried several and all I get is a host name lookup failure error message when I use either package manager or ipkg update from the command line. But otherwise web surfing works and gaim works. For the record I am usb connected to my laptop and going over a usb to ethernet bridge to the internet. Oh by the way if I try to bridge to my wireless connection it doesn't work for some reason. But bridging to ethernet works like a champ.
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Hazaah!
Well, it booted faster than that old OPIE image, and isn't so unstable. Yet to get sound working though, and while my Wifi Card appears recognised, I can't find a driver that assigns right. (yet)
Hmm. . Installing all the Hostap and Prism3 garbage. . . Can I make a reccomendation that that gets put in the ROM please? This is highly irritating it doing by hand, And both my wifi cards have been Prism3.
Annoyingly, my Sound has inexplicably failed to work. . And GPE is being strangly slow, slower than SHARP was.
Hmmm. . Can't get hostap to work.
RHEEEEE!!!!!
This looks like a job for. . . more hacking!!!!
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So. .. Anyone know how to get a Prism3 card working on OZ/GPE 2.6.17?
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So. .. Anyone know how to get a Prism3 card working on OZ/GPE 2.6.17?
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I just got my sandisk connect plus wifi card working. It is still kinda of iffy but i am slingin' packets so that is a plus. Apparently it uses some prism3 firmware junk and the hostap driver. But I have to load the hostap driver manually with modprobe. If I do while the card is inserted it locks up. I also had to go to /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf and comment out the line about "bind ide_cs to 0" inorder to disable the flash mem on my card and get the wifi working. From all that I have read they won't work at the same time. I have installed the install kit for poodle 3.5.4.2 from ewi but there are no apps at all on this rom. Does anyone know if there is a card fs type deal for this rom like for the hentges 2.6 ROMs? I also got syncing to Qtopia desktop over USB working which also allows me to sync stuff from Outlook. sweet.
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what do u think about latest qtopia rom?:
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 (http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6)
i install it but i didnt open x...
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Hi. My friend gave me a Zaurus SL-5600, albeit an incomplete package. I have the device though and I have encountered problems with security permissions and all that although the original owner ensured me he did not tweak such things.
I posted at Tyrannozaurus and they recommended me to post here and they also advised me to flash the device. I'm not sure what my ROM is running at although I may be lead to believe that my Zaurus runs on OpenZaurus.
I don't really know what ROM to use though. Here's the URL to my thread in tyrannozaurus.
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/784#comment-2045 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/784#comment-2045)
Please help me in trying to figure this out. Is there a way to revert my Zaurus to the Sharp ROM or should I pick one of the other roms out there?
Can I use SD cards for flashing my rom or do I need a CF card? Thanks all.
Jack
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Can I use SD cards for flashing my rom or do I need a CF card? Thanks all.
Jack
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Yes you can use SD cards to flash. The rom you want depends on what you like. I used the watapon rom because it had all the modifications to the sharp rom that I would end up doing anyway if I was on the sharp rom. I personally stuck with the sharp rom because everything just worked with it. Openzaurus never became stable and probably never will. It's up to you though.
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Some missing details: Jack's screen shows "Zynergy" at startup, and we're both a little worried that flashing the wrong ROM could result in a bricked Z, given what we've seen in other threads here and on the web.
Is it safe to flash Watapon on top of Zynergy, does it overwrite everything?
You're sure he can flash from SD? Someone else who doesn't own an sl5600 told him that he had to use CF. Maybe they got 5500 and 5600 mixed up?
thanks,
sdjf
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Can I use SD cards for flashing my rom or do I need a CF card? Thanks all.
Jack
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Yes you can use SD cards to flash. The rom you want depends on what you like. I used the watapon rom because it had all the modifications to the sharp rom that I would end up doing anyway if I was on the sharp rom. I personally stuck with the sharp rom because everything just worked with it. Openzaurus never became stable and probably never will. It's up to you though.
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Thanks for the swift response. I've read conflicting reports on this. But I suppose there are more SL-5600 owners here. I do suppose that it's possible then.
Well, I'm not sure what ROM to pick. I presume best choice is one that is stable and that allows me to install and uninstall applications. I want to use my Zaurus primarily for Surfing, Writing docs, e-mailing, and instant messaging. I've read at the first page of the thread that Sharp ROM is the most stable, but I believe the ROM this Z came with is OpenZaurus or something. Not sure though since it has a 'zynergy' splash screen at boot up.
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Some missing details: Jack's screen shows "Zynergy" at startup, and we're both a little worried that flashing the wrong ROM could result in a bricked Z, given what we've seen in other threads here and on the web.
Yes, it should be okay to flash the sharp rom. I believe the Zynergy is one of the modified sharp roms. Kind of a dark picture of a girl on startup right? I think I remember having problems with the package installer on that ROM. In my experience with my 5600 it is nearly impossible to brick it as flashing the rom does not overwrite the "bios" of the device. So if you flash a failed OS then you can just reflash until you get it right. NAND flashing on the 3100 and so on are what can brick it but that's not the way we flash with the 5600. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Is it safe to flash Watapon on top of Zynergy, does it overwrite everything?
Well, it will overwrite the "OS" of the device which includes all your default applications but it does not erase the home directory until you format. So once you flash it you need to go back into the flash utility and format it to erase all your settings and home directory so you get a clean boot up.
You're sure he can flash from SD? Someone else who doesn't own an sl5600 told him that he had to use CF. Maybe they got 5500 and 5600 mixed up?
Yes he can. the 5500 you can not, but the 5600 you can.
Have fun flashing, don't worry, you can't brick it. Just make sure the file names are exactly how they are supposed to be, it is even case sensitive. Filenames depend on the updater.sh file you use so they can be different.
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Yes, it should be okay to flash the sharp rom. I believe the Zynergy is one of the modified sharp roms. Kind of a dark picture of a girl on startup right? I think I remember having problems with the package installer on that ROM. In my experience with my 5600 it is nearly impossible to brick it as flashing the rom does not overwrite the "bios" of the device. So if you flash a failed OS then you can just reflash until you get it right. NAND flashing on the 3100 and so on are what can brick it but that's not the way we flash with the 5600. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
That is so awesome news! Yeah, dark picture of the girl at the startup. And yeah, installer problems here. So that means I can use the Sharp ROM without fear of bricking it. That's the best news I've heard in a while.
Well, it will overwrite the "OS" of the device which includes all your default applications but it does not erase the home directory until you format. So once you flash it you need to go back into the flash utility and format it to erase all your settings and home directory so you get a clean boot up.
I think selecting format is part of the procedure for flashing roms anyway, right? So home directory does go bye bye. I base that from this.
http://ozwiki.u32.net/Poodle/Install (http://ozwiki.u32.net/Poodle/Install)
Yes he can. the 5500 you can not, but the 5600 you can.
Wow. More wonderful news! This is making me feel excited! Oh wow!!!
Have fun flashing, don't worry, you can't brick it. Just make sure the file names are exactly how they are supposed to be, it is even case sensitive. Filenames depend on the updater.sh file you use so they can be different.
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I'll keep an eye on this one. I guess I'll use the Sharp ROM and see how that goes. Thanks a lot for the response!!!
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Update. Managed to flash with the Sharp ROM. It's working fine now. I'm fiddling with this to see what it has. I also have the Watapon ROM and will plan to use that to see what I can find.
Thanks for your help xamindar and sdjf!
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Hi!
I am thinking about buying a 5600 (Poodle), so my question would be,
WHAT´s the BEST, STABLE, general purpose ROM, that is available now for the Poodle?
I will use a CF Wifi Card, a Pockettop IR keyboard, etc.
Or what ROMs are available at all, that are working for an everyday use, without hacking too much? I am a newbie to Linux....
On the package it says it´s a pxa250 processor !!!!!! Is this anything to consider?
Thanks a lot: Balazs
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Update. Managed to flash with the Sharp ROM. It's working fine now. I'm fiddling with this to see what it has. I also have the Watapon ROM and will plan to use that to see what I can find.
Thanks for your help xamindar and sdjf!
With what Sharp ROM ? i know there is only one, but since the forum is build in the way threats are not developped, you peoples don't *think* about others coming later and trying to understand what you did !
So i don't know on what ROM someone ran the mplayer at 25 fps because i should have click 30 times to read the post !
(/rant)
So in addition, i have Skarp ROM 0.a8 , less than 1 ! Sharp specify their latest ROM is for machines with ROM 1.
Peoples in the world, developpers, try to communicate.
L