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Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Da_Blitz on May 26, 2006, 05:49:57 am
found some info on the pxa290 that is comming out soon, these guys have a finished product that uses the chip, i was aware that developers had the chips just not that anyone had a design yet

more info here (http://www.strategic-test.com/pxa270_pxa255_sbc/triton-290_pxa290-cpu_sbc.html)

looks like DDR ram and speeds up to 800Mhz but appart from that i cant see much that is diffrent
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Ferret-Simpson on May 26, 2006, 12:27:05 pm
Page won't load. . . Can't find Server.

Anyway, an extra 200mhz and a DDR bus are huge  changes for an embedded device!

Look at clocking a 3100 to 624! WOAH!
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Da_Blitz on May 27, 2006, 03:28:30 am
considering that the pxa is a mem bus hog i think we would see the most improvment from that, itry this link (http://www.strategic-test.com/pxa270_pxa255_sbc/index.html)

mabey this will include the introduction of usb 2.0
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Ferret-Simpson on May 27, 2006, 04:16:03 pm
We already HAVE USB 2.0

just not at Ultra mega super Robot speed.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Tom61 on May 29, 2006, 02:13:47 pm
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We already HAVE USB 2.0

just not at Ultra mega super Robot speed.
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I believe he means USB 2.0 host.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: iamasmith on May 29, 2006, 02:55:38 pm
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We already HAVE USB 2.0

just not at Ultra mega super Robot speed.
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I believe he means USB 2.0 host.
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Really?, since USB just works on OpenBSD I haven't had to look at the drivers.... which models specifically support USB 2 in host mode? - or do you mean by a USB 2 CF adaptor.

-Andy
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: koen on May 29, 2006, 03:11:48 pm
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We already HAVE USB 2.0

just not at Ultra mega super Robot speed.
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I believe he means USB 2.0 host.
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Really?, since USB just works on OpenBSD I haven't had to look at the drivers.... which models specifically support USB 2 in host mode? - or do you mean by a USB 2 CF adaptor.

-Andy
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thanks to the fine folks at the usb comittee, that 12mbit usb2, not 480mbit usb2.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Da_Blitz on May 30, 2006, 09:18:00 am
I was refering to usb 2.0 (480Mbits) HOST, this naming thing where full speed devices can be usb2.0 is crazy as well as full speed (12Mbits) bieng slower than high speed (480Mbits)
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Tom61 on May 30, 2006, 03:21:04 pm
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We already HAVE USB 2.0

just not at Ultra mega super Robot speed.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=128621\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I believe he means USB 2.0 host.
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Really?, since USB just works on OpenBSD I haven't had to look at the drivers.... which models specifically support USB 2 in host mode? - or do you mean by a USB 2 CF adaptor.

-Andy
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No current Zaurus models support USB 2.0 host, however the PXA290 likely has USB2.0 host built-in, which means the next model should, if it uses that processor. There are a couple of PXA270 dev boards that have USB 2.0, but those have an extra bridge chip that handles USB 2.0 host.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Ferret-Simpson on May 31, 2006, 07:02:02 am
So what about Spitz+, which all have USBOTG?

Which IS, if I'm not mistaken, USB2 12mbps?

And you're right. Their naming sucks.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Tom61 on June 02, 2006, 01:15:23 am
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So what about Spitz+, which all have USBOTG?

Which IS, if I'm not mistaken, USB2 12mbps?

And you're right. Their naming sucks.
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Never heard of those. Are they Arm9 (or better) compatable processors? Link to website?
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: starkruzr on June 02, 2006, 02:55:34 am
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So what about Spitz+, which all have USBOTG?

Which IS, if I'm not mistaken, USB2 12mbps?

And you're right. Their naming sucks.
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Never heard of those. Are they Arm9 (or better) compatable processors? Link to website?
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It's actually Akita+, if my own Akita is any indication.  
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: Ferret-Simpson on June 02, 2006, 05:31:21 am
3000 was before the 1000 XP (Either that ot the same time)

Spitz is a Zaurus. XD

6000 has USB 1.1 host, 1000, 3x00 all have USB2.0 full speed On the Go.
Title: Pxa 290 Details
Post by: the_oak on June 02, 2006, 09:12:43 am
Actually the 6000 also has USB OTG (On-The-Go) 1.0 which is "called" USB 2.0 but as Ferret-Simpson and others have pointed out only supports full speed (12 Mbps), not high speed (480 Mbps).

http://www.serialio.com/info/zaurus/notes/SL-6000USB.html (http://www.serialio.com/info/zaurus/notes/SL-6000USB.html)

Also check Meanie's site for info about USB OTG:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/ (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/)