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Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: jchung on February 26, 2004, 10:20:39 am
I\'m thinking of selling my 5500 and my c700 (when I get it fixed) but I still want a zaurus.

should I go with C760, c860 or sl-6000??

I know that there\'s not much difference btwn the 760 and 860, but hte case looks nicer (dunno if it\'s worth the extra $$ )

I want the features that 6000 have (builtin bluetooth and wifi) but I really dont want to go back to the tablet design after using clamshell design

oh the dilemma!! ?!?  :?
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Mickeyl on February 26, 2004, 10:29:45 am
maybe wait a little more. there are rumours about a clamshell-successor coming \"soon\"...
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: nathanwms on February 26, 2004, 10:43:35 am
Mickey,

do you have a link to the site that is spreading the rumor.
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: jchung on February 26, 2004, 10:56:31 am
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maybe wait a little more. there are rumours about a clamshell-successor coming \"soon\"...

if that\'s true then I definitely would get that!  :shock:
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: nilch on February 26, 2004, 11:44:27 am
What, the Sl-6000 has not been released as yet and already rumours of a new one...

Or maybe this is about a Japanese release again right ?
I have never felt so frustrated by any other company as Sharp with its frequent release (or news of release like SL-6000) and not be able to get one directly in hand  - everything is outside of the US.




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maybe wait a little more. there are rumours about a clamshell-successor coming \"soon\"...
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: nathanwms on February 26, 2004, 11:45:48 am
@jchung

Just on a whim I did a Google search for \'Zaurus SL-C960\' and it turned up what appears to be a technical document talking about faults or errors encountered in some type of development effort.

The document references the SL-C870 & SL-C960, but no specific information about features or specifications.  Looks like the rumor could be true.

http://www.computex.co.jp/ftproot/pub/csid...side/readme.txt (http://www.computex.co.jp/ftproot/pub/cside/zaurus/cside/readme.txt)

Nate
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: jchung on February 26, 2004, 12:12:37 pm
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@jchung

Just on a whim I did a Google search for \'Zaurus SL-C960\' and it turned up what appears to be a technical document talking about faults or errors encountered in some type of development effort.

The document references the SL-C870 & SL-C960, but no specific information about features or specifications.  Looks like the rumor could be true.

http://www.computex.co.jp/ftproot/pub/csid...side/readme.txt (http://www.computex.co.jp/ftproot/pub/cside/zaurus/cside/readme.txt)

Nate

Nate,

I translated that and it didnt come out that great ( I used http://excite.co.jp/world/url/ (http://excite.co.jp/world/url/) ) I\'ll try it later with babelfish.

Thanks for the link!

Joe
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: nevarrie on February 26, 2004, 06:42:05 pm
There are referrences to 870 and a 960 in that page.  Here is what I got from babel fish.  Not really sure what CSide is though it looks like they have a few test machines that are not on the market or someone can not type.  Though 870 and 960 are both used several times in the readme.  So we can hope.

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****************************************************************************** CSIDE for Linux Zaurus Developer V4.04 2004/02/24 〒 605-0846 the Kyoto city Higashiyama Ku five provision bridge east four Chome 432-13 corporation コンピューテックス TEL 075-551-0528 FAX 075-551-2585****************************************************************************
* * Information of supplemental explanation and version rise past record etc. of the manual description predicate is done in this file. 1. The modification point with this version ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * the occasion where trouble correction SIGALARM and SIGIO are received, the trouble where handler is not called was corrected. When memory operation is done while program execution, the trouble which becomes communication error was corrected. Argument of the program (argc) corrected the actual trouble which becomes several in +1. The trouble which continual and with build becomes error was corrected. When building be sure to correct the trouble which has the case where it builds entirely. Copying project, when you insert in another directory, it corrected the trouble which becomes not be able to build. Console the trouble where when drawing up the application Qtopia pass of the library becomes effective learning/repairing was corrected. C The trouble which cannot compile the file was corrected. * It corresponded to specification additional SL-C860, SL-C870 and SL-6000. * Csideserver version was raised in 1.7.0 attendant upon the version rise specification modification above-mentioned specification addition of csideserver. In addition, it meaning that the csideserver package is different every type, please note. In case of SL-A300: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_sla300.ipk SL-B500 C700: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slb500_c700.ipk SL-C750 C760: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slc750_c760.ipk SL-6000: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_sl6000.ipk SL-C960 C870: Csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slc860_c870.ipk Case csideserver of version before it is used, after one time un installing, please install csideserver of new version to ZAURUS. When with SL-B500 SL-6000 C700 750 760 860 870 it is used, at the time of csideserver starting root authority becomes necessary. As for setting execution method with the root authority of csideserver referring to the online manual, the occasion where it is the く. 2. Supplemental explanation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * the restriction item each operating system of the operating system (OS) it is necessary to satisfy the fixed condition for being. Because the restriction item of each every OS is explained below, OS which is used please has satisfied condition and verifies whether the る. In addition, when condition has not been satisfied, please do the version rise which is in OS. Operating system notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- please use Windows98/Me Internet Explorer 4.01 or more. Above Window NT4.0 Service Pack4 (recommendation above SP5) or please use Internet Explorer 4.01 or more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- there is no Windows 2000/XP problem * Restriction item pthread_create in debugging () the thread side program which was drawn up with function becomes execution condition purposely. While thread side programming when software ・ breaking is set, it stops at that place and the cartridge ま it is not possible to reexecute. However, the main ・ program is debugging possible. * The Zaurus private server program (csideserver there is a directory of) master CD-ROM, please refer to \"serversreadme.txt\". This the active server ・ program please uses \"csideserver_1.7.0_arm_xxx.ipk\" with version. With combination of other versions it does not operate. 3. Version rise past record ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ V4.04 2004/02/24------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * the occasion where trouble correction SIGALARM and SIGIO are received, the trouble where handler is not called was corrected. When memory operation is done while program execution, the trouble which becomes communication error was corrected. Argument of the program (argc) corrected the actual trouble which becomes several in +1. The trouble which continual and with build becomes error was corrected. When building be sure to correct the trouble which has the case where it builds entirely. Copying project, when you insert in another directory, it corrected the trouble which becomes not be able to build. Console the trouble where when drawing up the application Qtopia pass of the library becomes effective learning/repairing was corrected. C The trouble which cannot compile the file was corrected. * It corresponded to specification additional SL-C860, SL-C870 and SL-6000. * Csideserver version was raised in 1.7.0 attendant upon the version rise specification modification above-mentioned specification addition of csideserver. In addition, it meaning that the csideserver package is different every type, please note. In case of SL-A300: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_sla300.ipk SL-B500 C700: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slb500_c700.ipk SL-C750 C760: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slc750_c760.ipk SL-6000: In case of csideserver_1.7.0_arm_sl6000.ipk SL-C960 C870: Csideserver_1.7.0_arm_slc860_c870.ipk Case csideserver of version before it is used, after one time un installing, please install csideserver of new version to ZAURUS. When with SL-B500 SL-6000 C700 750 760 860 870 it is used, at the time of csideserver starting root authority becomes necessary. As for setting execution method with the root authority of csideserver referring to the online manual, the occasion where it is the く. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ V4.03 2003/06/27------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * it corrected the trouble which has the case where it cannot build the project which has the trouble correction plural UI files increased. GCC cross compiler the package (gcc-2.95.2-glibc-2.2.2-binutils-2.9.5-Zaurus-Cygwin.exe), the STL-RELATED include file (include/g++-3) the correction stripe it is to do the trouble which has not entered. * It corresponded to specification additional SL-C750 and SL-C760. Linux measurement performance was added. As for details please refer to the online manual. * Csideserver version was raised in 1.5.0 attendant upon the version rise specification modification above-mentioned specification addition of csideserver. In addition, it meaning that the csideserver package is different every type, please note. In case of SL-A300: In case of csideserver_1.5.0_arm_sla300.ipk SL-B500 C700 C750 C760: Csideserver_1.5.0_arm_slb500_c700_c750_c760.ipk Case csideserver of version before it is used, after one time un installing, please install csideserver of new version to ZAURUS. When with SL-B500 C700 750 760 it is used, at the time of csideserver starting root authority becomes necessary and increases. As for setting execution method with the root authority of csideserver referring to the online manual, the occasion where it is the く. When ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ V4.02 2003/03/14------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * the source which is the trouble correction sub folder is added to project in, the trouble where build is possible and is and has case was corrected. When user ・ the program which uses the thread with application is downloaded, the error that \"CdbServer2 is not found\", coming out, the trouble which cannot do debugging operation was corrected. * The file operation file list indicatory possible window of the target Linux system was added to the specification additional Linux system information window CSIDE when ending the performance where also csideserver ends was added * Csideserver version was raised in 1.4.0 attendant upon the version rise above-mentioned specification addition of csideserver. (File name: Csideserver_1.4.0_arm.ipk) Case csideserver of version before it is used, after one time un installing, please install csideserver of new version to ZAURUS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ there is no V4.01 2003/01/06------------------------------------------------------------------------------ special mention item
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Anonymous on February 26, 2004, 08:13:02 pm
i agree that someone can\'t type.  there are only two references to 960, so it could be one typo.  every other instance of mentioning model numbers lists them in ascending order, except this one: i guess it\'s meant to say 860, 870, rather than 960, 870.  Since 870 is referenced repeatedly, and in the name of an ipk (much less likely to be misspelled), I believe that one.  However, I still don\'t know what its features are.
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: jchung on February 27, 2004, 10:22:57 am
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i agree that someone can\'t type.  there are only two references to 960, so it could be one typo.  every other instance of mentioning model numbers lists them in ascending order, except this one: i guess it\'s meant to say 860, 870, rather than 960, 870.  Since 870 is referenced repeatedly, and in the name of an ipk (much less likely to be misspelled), I believe that one.  However, I still don\'t know what its features are.

hmm.. interesting point.. so that means probably no c960

but what are the specs of the c870??
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: n8a on February 27, 2004, 12:05:36 pm
You can always try following the Sharp Zaurus - Japan site, not that it will necessarily show the latest and greatest.  However, I would think that any product release in Japan would be mentioned there.  They can\'t be THAT bad!

http://ezaurus.com/lineup/sl/index.html#sla300 (http://ezaurus.com/lineup/sl/index.html#sla300)
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: HennaOjisan on February 27, 2004, 01:18:41 pm
I wouldn\'t bet too much on the CSIDE document. It\'s just a typo.
For anyone interested, CSIDE is the equivalent of Codewarrior IDE for Zaurus in Japan.

But I would be interested in knowning about future releases  

Henna Ojisan
C760 w/ C860 inside
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 02:53:24 am
The new one to be released is SL-970.
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Mickeyl on March 11, 2004, 04:48:34 am
Dare to give more details?
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 05:34:36 am
Just to add to the rumor...

On one Japanese 2ch site, some anonymous user said that Sharp will be announcing the SL-C970 on March 17.

I guess just wait and see.

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Zuber on March 12, 2004, 02:12:43 am
No idea if this counts for anything...

But talking to one of our suppliers (Official Sharp Retailer in Japan)

\"My friend in Sharp said, they will not release new model in this spring.\"

Does not mean they will not announce a new model, though last time it was only two or three weeks between announcment and official launch, after which 10 unit were avialable in the whole of Japan
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: riki_nakamura on April 23, 2004, 12:58:19 am
What I\'m thinking is stupid but if they make something on the 9xx like 970 then that would probably be the near end of zaurus SL-C series since they probably won\'t go to SL-C1000 or something...
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: Zuber on April 23, 2004, 02:08:29 am
End of product line because they ran out of numbers. Interesting

Guess they would have to bring out SL-D models...
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: amrein on April 23, 2004, 03:15:00 am
Xxx if you here me, put Wifi + Bluetooth + Qtopia 2.0 + X11 compatibility in this new little device. Help the Open Source Community ideas to spread in people minds. Help one of the last humain trend of generosity to survive.

Mantra?

If a new device appear, it will still need a good OS to succeed in the European and US mass market. It\'s hard for all companies arround Sharp PDA to support a niche market.

All those years and nothing really powerful is out (I\'m not talknig about pdaXrom here but Sharp). Why? Does the true is hidden somewhere? (do you hear the Xfile music?) :|
Title: C760, c860 or sl-6000
Post by: riki_nakamura on April 23, 2004, 06:43:46 pm
You know come to think of it sharp has done a big jump in it\'s technologies... guess what sharps first invention was??? the mechanical pencil... in japan they call the mechanical pencil a sharp pencil (they always stay sharp) and now they make high tech computers... although the mechanical pencil is still hard to make and most are made in japan since they need small machines... super sharp!