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Everything Else => Zaurus Distro Support and Discussion => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Angstrom & OpenZaurus => Topic started by: CoreDump on June 22, 2006, 11:43:31 pm
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Hey all,
some people have been asking for "Hentges" style Spitz images. Since Spitz is mostly identical to Akita I thought I'd give it a try.
http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/)
I can't really test this image and the kernel since I do not have access to a Spitz. Please test and let me know how it works out.
I don't know what the default partitioning for the HDD on Spitz is but I suggest a rootfs partition of at least 150Mb.
Currently there are problems with building jffs2 and ext2 images, the machine is pretty much hard-wired to tar.gz tarballs.
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I’m wondering if its possible to try it on SL-C3200 following this howto http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install)
what do u think CoreDump?
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I’m wondering if its possible to try it on SL-C3200 following this howto http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install)
what do u think CoreDump?
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Yes, default installation procedures apply.
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i just flash it on SL-C3200 using GPE, works smoothly no single error on dmesg, wireless works, suspend works, simple path edit to include /sbin/
This is my last station for sure! i wont flash less than this quality on my zurii, thanks for the great job you do
now will test other featers
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i just flash it on SL-C3200 using GPE, works smoothly no single error on dmesg, wireless works, suspend works, simple path edit to include /sbin/
This is my last station for sure! i wont flash less than this quality on my zurii, thanks for the great job you do
now will test other featers
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EXCELLENT NEWS
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Currently there are problems with building jffs2 and ext2 images, the machine is pretty much hard-wired to tar.gz tarballs.
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Hi CoreDump - so I just need to rename:
[a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/tarballs/hentges-gpe-image-spitz_T2-RC1-3.5.4.1-rc4-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz]http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/ta...z.rootfs.tar.gz[/url]
to:
hdimage1.tgz
& follow the rest of the instructions at:
http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install#H...on_the_SL-C3000 (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install#How_to_install_OpenZaurus_on_the_SL-C3000).
?
Cheers,
zedkatuf
(still awaiting my 3200 )
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EXCELLENT NEWS
well, it's great news,
but some minor issues related to packages, the Abiword crashes when start it, the PDF viewer takes forever to start (i just reset to get rid of it) the rest packages so far works (tested few of them).
when it gets idle (blank screen) wont start again i noticed this on login screen i left it for minutes when it gets idle it turns the screen and never get it back, tried many things and buttons i hear the sound (means everythings fine except the screen)
hope that's will be fix in final release, need more testing from other guys may clearfy this.
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EXCELLENT NEWS
well, it's great news,
but some minor issues related to packages, the Abiword crashes when start it, the PDF viewer takes forever to start (i just reset to get rid of it) the rest packages so far works (tested few of them).
when it gets idle (blank screen) wont start again i noticed this on login screen i left it for minutes when it gets idle it turns the screen and never get it back, tried many things and buttons i hear the sound (means everythings fine except the screen)
hope that's will be fix in final release, need more testing from other guys may clearfy this.
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did you tap on your screen when it is blank to get it back or you just tried hitting keys on the keyboard?
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Hey people,
I've installed this rom to my spitz.
Installation went pretty good, it even reset the device after installation and reboot automagicly. Ilove that cool OpenZaurus logo in altboot menu
bootsplash is very nice too... (will need to search for the format and location of that file for a custom startup
During the very first startup of opie, before the calibration screen i got a screen with no decorations, asking about inserted sd card. Since the window is bigger than the screen i couldn't see any OK/Cancel buttons, tried some key combinations and finally closed the dialog and calibration screen appeared.
Opie run smoothly, on/off button works like a charm.
I want to make an 'ipkg update', so tried to configure network over usb. However, neighter my desktop linux detected zaurus nor the usbd0/usb0/eth0 interfaces come up.
Just tried a couple of ifconfig / modprobe to test the interfaces but didn't examine it further. Since I was waiting for a chance to test my ney usb host cable and powered usb hub, i connected the a4 Tech KL-5UP keyboard and AK-5 easy-go mouse over usb hub. Keyboard is detected and works well with zaurus keyboard. According to the dmesg output, usb mouse is recognized too, but i guess there is need to install some other software to use mouse with opie.
It really looks good, and runs pretty stable.
Thanks
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did you tap on your screen when it is blank to get it back or you just tried hitting keys on the keyboard?
i taped everywhere on screen, btw it happend once, sorry not to test it again to confirm this problem, now working on cacko+OpenBSD to get the wireless work which i don't think my card supported :/
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i just flash it on SL-C3200 using GPE, works smoothly no single error on dmesg, wireless works, suspend works, simple path edit to include /sbin/
This is my last station for sure! i wont flash less than this quality on my zurii, thanks for the great job you do
now will test other featers
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What is the benefit of flashing this Hentges ROM, instead of the regular OZ?
Is it that just some more packages are installed? Or what is the diff?
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What is the benefit of flashing this Hentges ROM, instead of the regular OZ?
Is it that just some more packages are installed? Or what is the diff?
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Yes - more apps installed, so saves time + maybe other stuff
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Hey people,
I've installed this rom to my spitz.
Installation went pretty good, it even reset the device after installation and reboot automagicly. Ilove that cool OpenZaurus logo in altboot menu
bootsplash is very nice too... (will need to search for the format and location of that file for a custom startup
The logo is compiled into the kernel. And yeah it looks very nice
During the very first startup of opie, before the calibration screen i got a screen with no decorations, asking about inserted sd card. Since the window is bigger than the screen i couldn't see any OK/Cancel buttons, tried some key combinations and finally closed the dialog and calibration screen appeared.
I sure wish this bug would be fixed eventually. Annoying as hell
Opie run smoothly, on/off button works like a charm.
I want to make an 'ipkg update', so tried to configure network over usb. However, neighter my desktop linux detected zaurus nor the usbd0/usb0/eth0 interfaces come up.
Just tried a couple of ifconfig / modprobe to test the interfaces but didn't examine it further.
I tested USB networking on Akita, works fine.
Since I was waiting for a chance to test my ney usb host cable and powered usb hub, i connected the a4 Tech KL-5UP keyboard and AK-5 easy-go mouse over usb hub. Keyboard is detected and works well with zaurus keyboard. According to the dmesg output, usb mouse is recognized too, but i guess there is need to install some other software to use mouse with opie.
The mouse works after restarting X11 in a GPE image, no clue how to enable it in Opie.
It really looks good, and runs pretty stable.
Thanks
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Glad you like it
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i just flash it on SL-C3200 using GPE, works smoothly no single error on dmesg, wireless works, suspend works, simple path edit to include /sbin/
This is my last station for sure! i wont flash less than this quality on my zurii, thanks for the great job you do
now will test other featers
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EXCELLENT NEWS
well, it's great news,
but some minor issues related to packages, the Abiword crashes when start it, the PDF viewer takes forever to start (i just reset to get rid of it) the rest packages so far works (tested few of them).
Please configure a different GPE theme and try Abiword again. There is a known crash-bug with a certain GPE theme.
when it gets idle (blank screen) wont start again i noticed this on login screen i left it for minutes when it gets idle it turns the screen and never get it back, tried many things and buttons i hear the sound (means everythings fine except the screen)
That is a known problem in 3.5.4.1
Usually one can revive the screen with Fn+4 (Brightness +)
hope that's will be fix in final release, need more testing from other guys may clearfy this.
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Thanks for your feedback
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i just flash it on SL-C3200 using GPE, works smoothly no single error on dmesg, wireless works, suspend works, simple path edit to include /sbin/
Good idea, /sbin and friends will be configured for non-root users in the future.
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Coredump,
Have you set up a spitz machine feed, or is it ok to use the akita feed with the spitz? All I need are some device driver modules while I wait for ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl to come back online. I see http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/ (http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/), but neither spitz or akita are valid feeds.
Thank you!
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Coredump,
Have you set up a spitz machine feed, or is it ok to use the akita feed with the spitz? All I need are some device driver modules while I wait for ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl to come back online. I see http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/ (http://oz.hentges.net/mirror/oz3.5.4/feed/machine/), but neither spitz or akita are valid feeds.
Thank you!
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Well, I was counting on the release of 3.5.4.1 and its feeds. The downtime of ewi is rather unfortunate
I'm uploading Spitz machine feed right now, it should already be configured in ipkg.conf:
[a href=\"http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/3.5.4.1/machines/spitz/]http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/3.5.4.1/machines/spitz/[/url]
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I actually wasn't using your distro before, but I decided to try it out this morning. After a bit of fdisk craziness, I am pleased to say I've got it running. The pre-installed application selection is nice! Certainly saves me a bit of work
I've been trying to get a USB mouse working. After restarting X with ctrl-alt-del, the mouse is recognized but there is no pointer. It does come onscreen briefly during the logon process. I know the mouse is active because random clicks will register with whatever icons and menus the pointer happens to be on. Also, I noticed that the touchscreen is disabled when the mouse is activated. I must pull the mouse and restart X to get the touchscreen back. Is there a simpler way to switch? Ideally, I would like both the mouse and touchscreen active at the same time.
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I actually wasn't using your distro before, but I decided to try it out this morning. After a bit of fdisk craziness, I am pleased to say I've got it running. The pre-installed application selection is nice! Certainly saves me a bit of work
I've been trying to get a USB mouse working. After restarting X with ctrl-alt-del, the mouse is recognized but there is no pointer. It does come onscreen briefly during the logon process. I know the mouse is active because random clicks will register with whatever icons and menus the pointer happens to be on. Also, I noticed that the touchscreen is disabled when the mouse is activated. I must pull the mouse and restart X to get the touchscreen back. Is there a simpler way to switch? Ideally, I would like both the mouse and touchscreen active at the same time.
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Hmm it may or may not be that I've enabled the turn-on-mouse-pointer only for Akita
Will have a look.
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And no, TS and mouse will not work at the same time. And there is currently no other way than to restart X to change the input device (kdrive X server problem).
And the TS beeing unusable when the mouse is plugged in is known, too.
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The USB mouse fix wasn't propperly implemented for spitz, it was missing a changeset.
Get tslib.sh from here: http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/org.ope...ib/tslib/akita/ (http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/tslib/tslib/akita/)
and copy it into /etc/profile.d.
Reboot the device and the cursor should show up.
Will be fixed for the next release, thanks!
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Wow, that was fast! You are awesome, Coredump!
Also, is there a way to scroll x-terminal-emulator via the keyboard?
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Sorry, no go for the akita tslib.sh on spitz. With a mouse, the pointer directions were reversed on the GPE login screen. The pointer still dissapeared afterwards. With mouse disconnected and spitz rebooted, the touchscreen would not respond to input (even at the calibration utility)
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Sorry, no go for the akita tslib.sh on spitz. With a mouse, the pointer directions were reversed on the GPE login screen. The pointer still dissapeared afterwards. With mouse disconnected and spitz rebooted, the touchscreen would not respond to input (even at the calibration utility)
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Hmm, that should have worked. I'll have a look tomorrow.
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Sorry, no go for the akita tslib.sh on spitz. With a mouse, the pointer directions were reversed on the GPE login screen. The pointer still dissapeared afterwards.
So the pointer is visible in gpe-login and vanishes when matchbox is launched?
Please create a new user and try again.
With mouse disconnected and spitz rebooted, the touchscreen would not respond to input (even at the calibration utility)
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Hmmm dunno what's going on there as Akita and Spitz should be identical in regards to TS handling.
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CoreDump -- For the Spitz class models, would it be possible for you to do a "maxi" Hentges ROM that includes both opie and gpe and is configured to switch between them (via the virtual terminals)?
Since the Spitz devices have microdrives, this sort of "kitchen sink" rom should be possible.
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CoreDump -- For the Spitz class models, would it be possible for you to do a "maxi" Hentges ROM that includes both opie and gpe and is configured to switch between them (via the virtual terminals)?
Since the Spitz devices have microdrives, this sort of "kitchen sink" rom should be possible.
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Excellent idea I'll see what I can do.
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CoreDump -- For the Spitz class models, would it be possible for you to do a "maxi" Hentges ROM that includes both opie and gpe and is configured to switch between them (via the virtual terminals)?
Since the Spitz devices have microdrives, this sort of "kitchen sink" rom should be possible.
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Excellent idea I'll see what I can do.
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PLEASE DO!!!!!
How easy would it be I wonder.....?
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In another thread someone asked the difference between Hentages and OZ and the reply was "extra packages and kernel tweaks" so I was wondering if the latest Hentages for spitz includes the pxa270 overlay or cpu freq. scale patches?
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In another thread someone asked the difference between Hentages and OZ and the reply was "extra packages and kernel tweaks" so I was wondering if the latest Hentages for spitz includes the pxa270 overlay or cpu freq. scale patches?
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Do these twesk tend to make Cacko nice & fast?
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In another thread someone asked the difference between Hentages and OZ and the reply was "extra packages and kernel tweaks" so I was wondering if the latest Hentages for spitz includes the pxa270 overlay or cpu freq. scale patches?
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Hentges uses the normal OZ kernel. But since the OZ kernel source is updated more often than OZ releases new images for everyone to download, the hentges kernel is usually newer than the OZ one which causes problems when a user tries to use an "old" OZ kernel with a "new" hentges rootfs.
OIAW: As soon as OZ gets these patches, hentges will have them but not before.
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As fore the difference between OZ and Hentges: I've prepared a page about this topic here: http://blog.hentges.net/?page_id=80 (http://blog.hentges.net/?page_id=80)
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PLEASE DO!!!!!
How easy would it be I wonder.....?
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Quite trivial at compile time actually (thanks to OE)
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PLEASE DO!!!!!
How easy would it be I wonder.....?
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Quite trivial at compile time actually (thanks to OE)
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Great stuff! I remember using opie & gpe at same time under 3.5.2 hentges & loved it.
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Strangely, in the second testing of akita tslib.sh the touchscreen works. Mouse pointer still disappears when matchbox is loaded. It does not stay for a new user, either. During the brief moments when the pointer is visible at gpe-login screen, the mouse is working properly now though (directions are no longer reversed as during my first testing).
Also, add one more vote for the Hentges spitz maxi-ROM :-D
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Strangely, in the second testing of akita tslib.sh the touchscreen works. Mouse pointer still disappears when matchbox is loaded. It does not stay for a new user, either. During the brief moments when the pointer is visible at gpe-login screen, the mouse is working properly now though (directions are no longer reversed as during my first testing).
Also, add one more vote for the Hentges spitz maxi-ROM :-D
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This is rather difficult to debug w/o access to the the machine in question. Cursor handling depends on a few packages: xserver-common which contains /etc/X11/Xserver to launch Xfbdev with the correct parameters, udev to detect an input device such as a mouse and tslib.sh which tells Xfbdev / Xserver which input device to use as pointer. Also udev creates a temporary file somwhere in /var which is detected by a script in /etc/X11/Xinit.d or Xsession.d to hide or show the mouse pointer.
I suggest we meet in IRC (#openzaurus at freenode) around the time you made this posting
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I've been playing with the maxi image right now and noticed the following:
- It's going to be huge, > 140Mb in size uncompressed
- Even compressed as jffs2 it is larger than the flash root-partition of any Z (61Mb)
- Due to a bug in OE there can only be one working SDL system, Opie or GPE
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I've been playing with the maxi image right now and noticed the following:
- It's going to be huge, > 140Mb in size uncompressed
- Even compressed as jffs2 it is larger than the flash root-partition of any Z (61Mb)
- Due to a bug in OE there can only be one working SDL system, Opie or GPE
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Ahh, so I'll have to install the gpe image & then do some clever soflinking to get opie working afterwards.
See this excerpt of a chat I just had with hrw on this:
16:39:10] <hrw> zedkatuf: we do not have libsdl which will handle qtopia and x11 in same binary
[16:39:22] <hrw> so we have libsdl-qpe and libsdl-x11 targets
[16:40:24] <zedkatuf> ok, so I'd need both then to get gpe & opie working?
[16:40:51] <hrw> they cannot be installed in same time
[16:41:57] <zedkatuf> ahh...unless I create a shell script which relinks the libs accordingly...?
[16:42:23] <hrw> maybe
[16:42:39] <hrw> now both packages install same files
[16:43:25] <zedkatuf> so does that cause a problem..?
[16:44:26] <zedkatuf> Is there somewhere which can tell me which binaries are started up with opie & gpe & then I could write a shell script accordingly perhaps
[16:44:32] <hrw> one contain libsdl-1.2.so and second contain libsdl-1.2.so
[16:44:40] <hrw> you can have only one of them installed
[16:44:49] <hrw> but I do not find it as a problem
[16:45:32] <zedkatuf> well, I could rename one libsdl-1.2.so.gpe & other .opie & then softlink libsdl-1.2.so to wither according to whether or not I was running gpe or opie....
[16:46:16] <hrw> do you really run games so often? I would rather stick with one gui enviroment
[16:46:30] <zedkatuf> it's not so much games....
[16:46:32] <hrw> but now I go home - time to flash tosa to oz 3.5.4
[16:46:37] <zedkatuf> anyway, thanks for your help
[16:46:40] <zedkatuf> ok, bfn
[16:46:53] <hrw> np
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I've been playing with the maxi image right now and noticed the following:
- It's going to be huge, > 140Mb in size uncompressed
- Even compressed as jffs2 it is larger than the flash root-partition of any Z (61Mb)
Big is good isn't it? The "Spitz" family Z's don't use the internal flash for the operating system (some think this is a disadvantage on the 3100/3200). That leaves a 4-6 GB microdrive which can easily be partitioned to accommodate a maxi image.
- Due to a bug in OE there can only be one working SDL system, Opie or GPE
What programs in Hentges Opie and GPE roms currently use SDL? If I get a vote, I would suggest going with gpe-sdl since I don't think the programs I would use from opie require SDL.
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I've been playing with the maxi image right now and noticed the following:
- It's going to be huge, > 140Mb in size uncompressed
- Even compressed as jffs2 it is larger than the flash root-partition of any Z (61Mb)
Big is good isn't it? The "Spitz" family Z's don't use the internal flash for the operating system (some think this is a disadvantage on the 3100/3200). That leaves a 4-6 GB microdrive which can easily be partitioned to accommodate a maxi image.
I agree.
- Due to a bug in OE there can only be one working SDL system, Opie or GPE
What programs in Hentges Opie and GPE roms currently use SDL? If I get a vote, I would suggest going with gpe-sdl since I don't think the programs I would use from opie require SDL.
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Mostly games and mplayer. I think I'll use GPE SDL, yeah.
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Coredump,
I cannot IRC tonight; must pack for vacation for a week. I may be on sometime during vacation, as the trip is mostly for my fiance to meet with friends.
I should do another round of testing, anyways. I may have done something wrong before, as my Linux knowledge is just enough for me to be dangerous (to myself)
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Also, I do not believe most spitz owners would be concerned with the size of the maxi-image. 140+ MB is but a small dent in our storage space
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Coredump,
I cannot IRC tonight; must pack for vacation for a week. I may be on sometime during vacation, as the trip is mostly for my fiance to meet with friends.
I should do another round of testing, anyways. I may have done something wrong before, as my Linux knowledge is just enough for me to be dangerous (to myself)
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Have fun
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Heres another problem with a maxi-typ image: You won't be able to use auto-suspend / display blanking in GPE at all since the deamon used for this triggers its timeouts while you are in opie.
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Coredump,
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I should do another round of testing, anyways. I may have done something wrong before, as my Linux knowledge is just enough for me to be dangerous (to myself)
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Indeed, this was the case. The akita tslib.sh now works as it should on my spitz. Perhaps the earlier failure resulted from using Links to transfer the tslib.sh from the repository to a FAT-formated SD card, then to etc/profile.d/ ? This time I learned to use gFTP and transfered the tslib.sh straight from the repository to etc/profile.d/
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CoreDump:
First, thanks for your work customizing the OZ/GPE for the Zaurus
Couple of issues, I've run into so far in my testing on my Spitz.
Not sure if this was intentional or not but the feeds in ipkg.conf have a leading "." before 3.5.4.1 in all of the default OZ feeds, so ipkg update fails on all but your feed.
I flashed your "ROM" with the newer OZ kernel and disabled /etc/init.d/checkversion per your advice. On first boot I got a strange dbus error (see screenshot) however didn't notice any problem. On reboot, no error message.
The matchbox panel behaves a bit wierd on rotation (see 2nd schreenshot). Anyway to have it return to normal thickness?
I did a ipkg upgrade after fixing the ipkg.conf error and afterwards, screen rotation didn't work.
And lastly mplayer complains about
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
No Qt/Embedded server appears to be running.
If you want to run mplayer as a server,
add the "-qws" command-line option.
Again thanks for all of your efforts!
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feed/.3.5.4.1/ is leftover from times when I had OZ feeds built but images was not yet tested.
mplayer output shows that you have wrong libsdl installed - remove libsdl-1.2-0 (or how it was called) and install one from x11/ feed.
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CoreDump:
First, thanks for your work customizing the OZ/GPE for the Zaurus
You're welcome
Couple of issues, I've run into so far in my testing on my Spitz.
Not sure if this was intentional or not but the feeds in ipkg.conf have a leading "." before 3.5.4.1 in all of the default OZ feeds, so ipkg update fails on all but your feed.
As hrw already said, this was a left-over from the pre 3.5.4.1 days.
I flashed your "ROM" with the newer OZ kernel and disabled /etc/init.d/checkversion per your advice. On first boot I got a strange dbus error (see screenshot) however didn't notice any problem. On reboot, no error message.
The matchbox panel behaves a bit wierd on rotation (see 2nd schreenshot). Anyway to have it return to normal thickness?
Actually that's a fluxbox bug with its NET_WM implementation. It should send "_NET_WORKAREA" to all windows on a work-area resize (ie: in this case a rotation from 640x480 to 480x640).
Since it doesn't do that, matchbox-desktop and matchbox-panel to not update their positions according to the new screen dimensions.
I did a ipkg upgrade after fixing the ipkg.conf error and afterwards, screen rotation didn't work.
"didn't work" is not a valid problem description
Please be more specific (what did you try, were there any error messages etc)
And lastly mplayer complains about
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
QSocket::writeblock: Socket is not open
No Qt/Embedded server appears to be running.
If you want to run mplayer as a server,
add the "-qws" command-line option.
Again thanks for all of your efforts!
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Yep, wrong libsdl on your end. Might be a problem with the uploaded image.
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Actually that's a fluxbox bug with its NET_WM implementation. It should send "_NET_WORKAREA" to all windows on a work-area resize (ie: in this case a rotation from 640x480 to 480x640).
Since it doesn't do that, matchbox-desktop and matchbox-panel to not update their positions according to the new screen dimensions.
Hmm, anyway to work around this bug, or manually update the new positions?
I did a ipkg upgrade after fixing the ipkg.conf error and afterwards, screen rotation didn't work.
"didn't work" is not a valid problem description
Please be more specific (what did you try, were there any error messages etc)
Sorry, when the screen is rotated to portrait, the auto rotation didn't work. Also the rotation applet didn't manually rotate the screen. The upgrade only produced one error and that was a fluxbox conflict error message, but I didn't save it so I can't be more specific. I reflashed back to your default image and am currently testing without upgrading any packages.
Cheers,
Jerry
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Hmm, anyway to work around this bug, or manually update the new positions?
None, I'm afraid. Killing off matchbox-desktop and matchbox-panel (and restarting them as the correct user) would fix the positioning but is way ugly.
Let's just hope someone is going to fix fluxbox :\
On the bright-side I've just talked to _law_ on #gpe. He reworked gpe-login to allow for multiple (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12932.png) windowmanagers (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12865.png)
Sorry, when the screen is rotated to portrait, the auto rotation didn't work. Also the rotation applet didn't manually rotate the screen. The upgrade only produced one error and that was a fluxbox conflict error message, but I didn't save it so I can't be more specific. I reflashed back to your default image and am currently testing without upgrading any packages.
Cheers,
Jerry
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If you ever encounter this situation again, please try "export DISPLAY=:0; xrandr -o left" in a console.
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On the bright-side I've just talked to _law_ on #gpe. He reworked gpe-login to allow for multiple (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12932.png) windowmanagers (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12865.png)
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SWEET!
When will it be available in the OZ feeds?
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probably sooner or later - depends when it will get added into OE - probably in next gpe-login release
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On the bright-side I've just talked to _law_ on #gpe. He reworked gpe-login to allow for multiple (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12932.png) windowmanagers (http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12865.png)
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Technically speaking those are 'sessions', not 'window managers' to choose from, but that's just changing one string in the patch
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Sorry, when the screen is rotated to portrait, the auto rotation didn't work. Also the rotation applet didn't manually rotate the screen. The upgrade only produced one error and that was a fluxbox conflict error message, but I didn't save it so I can't be more specific. I reflashed back to your default image and am currently testing without upgrading any packages.
Cheers,
Jerry
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If you ever encounter this situation again, please try "export DISPLAY=:0; xrandr -o left" in a console.
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OK, did an ipkg upgrade & now rotation works fine (except of course the fluxbox bug). So no idea why I had the problem before. User error most likely
I found that I wasn't using the Fluxbox features that much so I restored matchbox as the window manager and rotation works fine when the screen is spun.
Thanks
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Hey all,
some people have been asking for "Hentges" style Spitz images. Since Spitz is mostly identical to Akita I thought I'd give it a try.
http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/spitz/)
Hi CoreDump,
When I click the link to get the spitz image, I get a 404 error. In looking through this thread, I didn't see any announcement that the image was being pulled. Is this a web site accident (he says hoping), a temporary move, or something longer term?
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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You could do that, but flash is a lot slower as the microdrive.
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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You could do that, but flash is a lot slower as the microdrive.
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ah... but one might have 3 flavors on tap at once:) flash & altboot to sd & altboot to hd (though this might complicate the home thing)
I've heard the speed thing argued both ways. My experience shows little difference in daily use. what about power consumption? might there be savings using flash?
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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You could do that, but flash is a lot slower as the microdrive.
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ah... but one might have 3 flavors on tap at once:) flash & altboot to sd & altboot to hd (though this might complicate the home thing)
I've heard the speed thing argued both ways. My experience shows little difference in daily use. what about power consumption? might there be savings using flash?
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you can create the loop filesystems on the microdrive and boot off those. i tried bootstrap to boot oz, then altboot to select between hentges-opie-rootfs, hentges-gpe-rootfs and pdaxrom-rootfs all located on the third partition of the microdrive (first partition being the default rootfs for bootstrap, second partition being /home and third partition being /media/hdd. just needs a little mod to the altboot scripts to pick up the third partition on the microdrive.
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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You could do that, but flash is a lot slower as the microdrive.
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ah... but one might have 3 flavors on tap at once:) flash & altboot to sd & altboot to hd (though this might complicate the home thing)
I've heard the speed thing argued both ways. My experience shows little difference in daily use. what about power consumption? might there be savings using flash?
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you can create the loop filesystems on the microdrive and boot off those. i tried bootstrap to boot oz, then altboot to select between hentges-opie-rootfs, hentges-gpe-rootfs and pdaxrom-rootfs all located on the third partition of the microdrive (first partition being the default rootfs for bootstrap, second partition being /home and third partition being /media/hdd. just needs a little mod to the altboot scripts to pick up the third partition on the microdrive.
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Oh that sounds interesting! Will you be documenting it on your site? I'd love to try that.
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Something like this was discussed elsewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Is it possible to put a hentges opie image on the fash on a 3100 in the same way that itis done on a 1000? I thought it might be fun to have a simple opie pda setup on flash and a more desktoppish thing on the hd, or sd. especially if one could keep /home on the hd and altboot to the sd or boot direct from the flash.
or has this been done and turned out less exciting than it sounds?
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You could do that, but flash is a lot slower as the microdrive.
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ah... but one might have 3 flavors on tap at once:) flash & altboot to sd & altboot to hd (though this might complicate the home thing)
I've heard the speed thing argued both ways. My experience shows little difference in daily use. what about power consumption? might there be savings using flash?
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you can create the loop filesystems on the microdrive and boot off those. i tried bootstrap to boot oz, then altboot to select between hentges-opie-rootfs, hentges-gpe-rootfs and pdaxrom-rootfs all located on the third partition of the microdrive (first partition being the default rootfs for bootstrap, second partition being /home and third partition being /media/hdd. just needs a little mod to the altboot scripts to pick up the third partition on the microdrive.
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Yeah... doing it all off hd occurred to me after I posted. Glad to hear you ave it worked out, though-- simplifies my setup