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Everything Else => Desktop Operating Systems Issues => Zaurus General Forums => Archived Forums => Windows Issues => Topic started by: kafka on September 24, 2003, 09:38:43 am
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Hi all,
I received my Zaurus a couple of days ago, and I\'ve made reasonable progress with it - I have it on my network, accessible via Samba, etc., using TCP/IP over the USB port.
However - I no longer seem able to hotsync: communication seems to be taking place (i.e. when I initiate a sync both my PC and the Zaurus respond), but I get an error on the Zaurus saying \"communication aborted\". This is in attempting to sync to a Windows 2000 machine with Intellisync.
Anyone have any ideas as to how I might fix this problem? (btw, I\'m not running anything fancy.. just the stock rom that it came with, etc.)
Thanks in advance!
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I\'m having a very similar problem...also with Win2k and Intellisync...
Just got the SL-5500, can\'t do anything
EDIT
I DID follow the faq btw...still no good. Is getting sync over wireless easier than over USB? This is driving me crazy because i was supposedly replacing my visor with this unit...the visor was easier.
anyway...thanks for listening
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replacing any pda with the Zaurus can be tricky... as long as your expectations are correctly set.. pim functionality and syncing is NOT as easy as with palm/ppc based pdas.
I\'ve found syncing via tcp/ip with the cradle or wireless syncing is much more reliable.
I\'m currently using wireless syncing, there\'s a great how-to here (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Wireless%20Syncing).
The biggest problem I had with syncing my 5500 with my win2k laptop, was with win2k having troubles keeping the usb connection, and properly assigning the IP address every time the cradle was connected to the usb port.
with wireless syncing, I just have a pcmcia wifi card in the laptop, and a cf wifi card in my Z... works great every time.
good luck
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Wifi will become an option soon...buying the appropriate hardware...but i don\'t want to sync with a laptop...i want to sync with a desktop...will it work through an Access Point? Also, it seems silly that syncing using the cradle would be such a difficult task...
every time i ask the question \"how can i install applications to the Z\", i get the answer \"buy...\" so it seems the Z is not a complete solution. I must buy wifi, 32MB CF card, or some other peripheral in order to do with the Z what comes naturally on another PDA.
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you\'re right... not much with the Z is nearly as easy as with another pda. the Z though isn\'t just any pda... it\'s more of a mini-mini-laptop. I can\'t think of a single accessory I bought for my Z that hasn\'t improved it\'s functionality or that hasn\'t made it that much better.... especially the wifi card
yes, you can sync with a desktop... it\'s the same networking concepts... just as long as the two are on the same network, and you follow the instructions... it should be great!
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Well, in my case the TCP/IP connection seems to be fine - I can keep an ssh connection up to the zaurus even while the sync fails..
I\'m aware that the Zaurus is a different beast from, say, a palmpilot, but I\'m fairly experienced with Linux and can get my hands dirty if necessary.. it\'s just a pain that the syncing seems to have failed without apparent reason - I don\'t currently have any WIFI stuff, and unfortunately I doubt the IT department where I work would be too keen on my hooking up a wireless connection, anyhow. So.. any suggestions as to how to fix this issue would be very much appreciated!
Thanks!
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offroadgeek,
Thanks for your replies...at least i feel someone is listening
I was wondering though, I consider myself somewhat of an advanced newbie and i\'ve followed all directions and howto\'s...still nothing seems to work. i\'ve made it to the point in both linux and windows where i can ping the device, but the qtopia desktop does not recognize the connection. both telnet and ftp refuse connection as well. if i had a terminal on the Z i\'d be able to see if it could ping the desktop, but how to get terminal to the Z?
Is it possible that there is only 1-way communication happening? maybe something wrong with the cradle? (i don\'t want to believe something is wrong with the Z).
/me re-reads \"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance\"
Thanks in advance,
Russell
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I\'ve just write another topic whith this request...:
I\'ve this problem: I don\'t have any network device for my Zaurus SL-5600 (es. Eth. Card or Wireless Card), I\'ve USB dock station only.
I connected PDA on my PC with an routing software, and, for example, Opera Browser work good, but default mail client NO!
When I get a send & recive, it ask me a Dial-Up connection! Why it don\'t work with the usbd0 interface?
Do somebody know a way for this, or else an another mail client that can do this?
Thank You to all!
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more and more i begin to get the distinct feeling that PPP is necessary for syncing using the USB cradle.
yesterday i got a bit further...found out that i could transfer files from a laptop, so decided to get the OZ rom and flashed it figuring that OZ might have better support for the cradle. no...not much...although i did get NAT working through the cradle!
i can see i\'m getting closer...i\'ll post if PPP does actually work...and maybe compile a howto using all the docs i\'ve found. there is no documentation that explicitly states PPP is necessary to communicate with the sync software.
Russell
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Have you considered updating (or downgrading) usb drivers for 2000? Newer versions of the drivers do not allow TCP/IP syncing w/o the older version of the driver being installed. This actually prevented me sycning using OZ as OZ still uses TCP/IP for tranfers. This gets even further confused as there is an option under the newer driver to set TCP/IP options, but will not be enabled w/o older versions of the drivers being installed. If you have the newer version of the drivers on the CD provided w/ your Z, you are able to download older versions of the distributed CDs from www.zaurus.com/dev.
One other note, any type of error message (or lack there of) could be helpful. Check dmesg to see what information you are provided when connecting the Z. Also check your Event logs to see if there is any information when your Z is connected.
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Taim,
Thanks...I\'ll definiately look into the old driver and then install the new. In terms of error messages, on the PC side there are none...probably simply because the PC is waiting for an event that isn\'t happening...that little connection icon in the bottom right of the qtopia desktop stays red.
this is with both linux and windows. if i start qtopia in linux with a console, there is a message something like \"attempting to connect with device...PPP...something\" :oops: i\'m not in front of the compter now, so i\'ll post the exact message later.
i never thought of trying dmesg on the Z! that could prove useful. It\'s another direction to travel, anyway!
I should be getting my 802.11b access point some time this or next week, but i\'d still like to be able to communicate via the cradle so i can use it here at work.
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Where is the HowTo on syncing via WiFi and TCP/IP.
I have the Linksys 802.11b card and the Intellisync software that came with the device.
I currently have a SL-5000.
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sorry, I was not logged on. I am the previous guest
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Where is the HowTo on syncing via WiFi and TCP/IP.
you can find it here (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Wireless%20Syncing).
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Well I finally did it! It was a combination of several techniques in several documents. I really couldn\'t tell what the magic bullet was except that it had something to do with making sure you have the right version of intellisync or qtopia desktop installed.
i was even able to nat so that i could browse the web (this was done using network connection sharing in win2k).
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Well I finally did it! It was a combination of several techniques in several documents. I really couldn\'t tell what the magic bullet was except that it had something to do with making sure you have the right version of intellisync or qtopia desktop installed.
i was even able to nat so that i could browse the web (this was done using network connection sharing in win2k).
Hi, I am experiencing the same problem. I am able to ping, ssh ftp etc... but not able to sync. Qtopiadesktop does not recognize the link??
Any clues or answers??
Thanks
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I have a SL5500. I have updated to ROM 2.39. The sync has been sporatic from the start. Now it doesn\'t work at all. The NDIS device is disabled and when I try to enable it, it says connection failed. I\'ve tried shuffling drivers around and no joy. If I remove intellisync and reinstall the drivers I can enable the NDIS NIC, but if I install intellisync again or disable it, the device goes disabled and can\'t be re-enabled.
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YAAAA!!! I was able to get ip connectivity by using another machine. I used that machine to back date the ROM to 2.8. I tried updating it to 3.13 from 2.8, but I get a fatal exception error while it\'s loading the ROM on to the PDA. This is the same problem I was having before. Syncing works from the original machine now. I noted that the ROM update on the sharp site says that it\'s only for US. I ordered mine from a guy in singapore on ebay. It\'s an english version, but the box says SL-5500, but made in Japan. Does this mean it\'s different than one I would have gotten from someone in the US?
If it\'s different is there anyway I can update to V3 ROM?
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Qtopiadesktop does not recognize the link??
Any clues or answers??
Once again...be VERY SURE of which version of Qtopia/Intellisync and ROM you are using!! This is absolutely the key!
If you have the latest (3.13) Sharp ROM get the latest desktop with it (it also works with latest tkcrom too).
I haven\'t gotten OpenZaurus to sync yet, so i\'m not sure which version it needs to sync with.
Also, i don\'t need to use the USB networking to sync, it works without it...just plug in the Z press the sync button and everything happens.
If it still doesn\'t work, post your version #\'s and errors so we can troubleshoot.
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When I was running Sharp ROM 3.08 I was also unable to sync using TCP/IP, though Serial and USB-I/O worked fine. I tried pretty hard to work out what was wrong (packet grabbing, port scanning, etc.) but never came up with an explanation. So don\'t worry you\'re not alone. Of course you may be running a different, non Sharp 3.xx ROM, if so just ignore me.
Si
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Have you changed IP addresses? Dont forget the last octet on the PC has to be 1 (xxx.xxx.xxx.1) the default is 192.168.129.201 on the Z and 192.168.129.1
corky
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I just purchased a 5500 and also have problems synching at first. While I don\'t write code I consider myself more of a moderate to advanced linux user, been in it for a few years now. I found a combo of things can go wrong with the syncing. When I got it I spent the first 3 days flashing my rom and working with the syncing to both try new roms and to learn how the synching works...(I think I must have flashed at least 10 times within 2 days).
Here are the problems I discovered:
Intellisync
1. Newer roms like thekompany.rom and the new sharp rom require the new version of intellisync to work. If the versions are a mismatch then it won’t work. You can download it for free from myzaurus.com
2. New versions of intellisync and newer roms offer a USB I/O option to sync. This is junk for the most part and while it will work other things won’t. If you change this you have to change it on the Zaurus and on Intellisync through the “zaurus managerâ€.
3. The new roms come with USB I/O Defaulted in the pclink program. When you switch it takes an ungodly amount of time to configure after you click ok and can seem like it is hung up. Resist the temptation to soft reset the z. It will eventually get configured. Rebooting the z after is a good idea.
Windows
1. When you sync and it installs the NDIS5 adapter it will assign the network connection a Dynamic ip address. Sometimes this will cause conflicts as it won’t be the right range. I found that changing the ip address to the right range will work, otherwise assigning an ip address of 192.168.129.1 (that one works for me).
2. If you can’t sync drop to command line in windows (start]]run]]type cmd) and ping the zaurus ip address 192.168.129.201 by default. If you get no response it’s configured incorrectly or the windows system may need a reboot.
3. Typically win xp/2000 doesn’t require a reboot after installing new network cards but when it first detects the zaurus it needs a reboot before the network adapter will see the zaurus networking wise.
4. When you flash the rom with a different rom (i.e. Stock sharp to thekompany.rom) then it will install a new adapter and you. You’ll have to fix the ip address again, and reboot to ensure.
Sometimes the Rom just doesn’t get put on correctly. I had an issue synching when I switched to thekompany.rom and couldn’t resolve it. It appeared to work but nothing was seen. I reflashed the rom with a redownloaded image and was able to get it to work.
Getting the synching to work under the stock rom can be painful. I highly suggest updating it.
The openzaurus rom I don’t really remember what I did with it or which version of intellisync I used, I believe it was the older version. I didn’t really like it aside from its visually pleasing benefits. Hope this helps.
Tim
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Well, in my case the TCP/IP connection seems to be fine - I can keep an ssh connection up to the zaurus even while the sync fails..
I\'m aware that the Zaurus is a different beast from, say, a palmpilot, but I\'m fairly experienced with Linux and can get my hands dirty if necessary.. it\'s just a pain that the syncing seems to have failed without apparent reason - I don\'t currently have any WIFI stuff, and unfortunately I doubt the IT department where I work would be too keen on my hooking up a wireless connection, anyhow. So.. any suggestions as to how to fix this issue would be very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Kafka, Did you ever get this resolved? I am having the exact same problem.