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Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: vputz on September 08, 2006, 12:40:48 am
Since my wife started school again and I can't abscond with her laptop during business trips, I decided to take my Z along with a foldable keyboard and a wireless CF card.

Of course, the foldable keyboard doesn't work (/pout--can't take it out of NumLock mode), so that was frustrating.  But my ensuing session with Konqueror and the hotel wireless was maddening.

It was one of those situations where you have to "accept their terms" by clicking a button that submitted a form.  Now, I had Javascript enabled and everything, but if I clicked that button, I got the same page EVERY TIME; it just kept asking me to click the button.

I can only assume something was a bit wonky with Konqueror.  Is there a fix, or an alternate browser that would handle that?  Maybe I should install links2/lynx or something just to try it...
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: adf on September 08, 2006, 02:30:26 am
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Since my wife started school again and I can't abscond with her laptop during business trips, I decided to take my Z along with a foldable keyboard and a wireless CF card.

Of course, the foldable keyboard doesn't work (/pout--can't take it out of NumLock mode), so that was frustrating.  But my ensuing session with Konqueror and the hotel wireless was maddening.

It was one of those situations where you have to "accept their terms" by clicking a button that submitted a form.  Now, I had Javascript enabled and everything, but if I clicked that button, I got the same page EVERY TIME; it just kept asking me to click the button.

I can only assume something was a bit wonky with Konqueror.  Is there a fix, or an alternate browser that would handle that?  Maybe I should install links2/lynx or something just to try it...
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No idea.... in a similar incident I ended up flashing to cacko (I carry a couple roms  ) at a hotel whan I couldn't decide what networking device was being called what in gpe.
Probably your best bet, though would be opera (if it works) and Firefox via gpe or xqt...and prbably links ssl too...  something in there should get ya through
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: vputz on September 08, 2006, 09:16:39 am
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No idea.... in a similar incident I ended up flashing to cacko (I carry a couple roms  ) at a hotel whan I couldn't decide what networking device was being called what in gpe.
Probably your best bet, though would be opera (if it works) and Firefox via gpe or xqt...and prbably links ssl too...  something in there should get ya through
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140927\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hmm.  Not sure if Opera is in the 3.5.4(.1) feeds; I looked but didn't see it at the time, but I'll look again.  Minimo over xqt... hurm.  Worth trying.

What a pain...
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: rolf on September 12, 2006, 06:14:05 pm
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Is there a fix, or an alternate browser that would handle that?  Maybe I should install links2/lynx or something just to try it...
How about doing the obvious and asking the hotel staff for assistance.  I guess they also might be interested in learning that the super-duper registration interface is broken.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: Meanie on September 14, 2006, 10:57:41 pm
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Is there a fix, or an alternate browser that would handle that?  Maybe I should install links2/lynx or something just to try it...
How about doing the obvious and asking the hotel staff for assistance.  I guess they also might be interested in learning that the super-duper registration interface is broken.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=141275\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

most hotels will tell you that they only support MS Windows and IE  and a lot of those dodgy auth mechanism they use use active x controls in IE, but for those that did it properly, Firefox has never let me down before...
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: tombraider on September 15, 2006, 04:16:11 pm
In the U.S.  DaysInn is great.  It does not use that annoying interface of having to sign in AT ALL.  You just connect to "Any" and no password and it works right off the bat. (Okay,  I can't guarantee that every DaysInn has this, but I suppose most of the newer ones do.)  Holiday Inn had a sign in interface which actually WORKED for the Z,  but most hotels with that sign in c**p give Opera fits and don't show the page properly so that you can't sign in - very very annoying.  I usually wind up bringing my laptop too just in case the Z won't connect to the wireless where I am staying,  but I HATE having to do that.

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Since my wife started school again and I can't abscond with her laptop during business trips, I decided to take my Z along with a foldable keyboard and a wireless CF card.

Of course, the foldable keyboard doesn't work (/pout--can't take it out of NumLock mode), so that was frustrating.  But my ensuing session with Konqueror and the hotel wireless was maddening.

It was one of those situations where you have to "accept their terms" by clicking a button that submitted a form.  Now, I had Javascript enabled and everything, but if I clicked that button, I got the same page EVERY TIME; it just kept asking me to click the button.

I can only assume something was a bit wonky with Konqueror.  Is there a fix, or an alternate browser that would handle that?  Maybe I should install links2/lynx or something just to try it...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=140924\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: 7_feet_up on October 12, 2006, 04:20:51 am
I experienced the same problem of not being able to acces a wifi hotspot in the Netherlands with opie and the three-years-old konqueror-embedded (version 20030705) on my poodle. I never considered it a problem since opera worked for me with the compat libs, until recently. When I flashed to openzaurus 3.5.4.2-rc2, opera stopped working, and with it the wifi surfing.
The solution for me was to upgrade konqueror-embedded to the development version (version 20060404). However, I had to build it using openembedded. Unfortunately I don't have a server with enough bandwith at my disposal to maintain a feed on my own. I have attached the needed ipk's to this message.

[img]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/579/konqscreenshotuf7.th.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

1. Install the attached ipk's. Note that these ipk's are built for poodle. Because ipkg crashed by shortage of RAM installing these packages, I had to close all applications (including opie) to save RAM. So it might be necessary to ssh into your zaurus or install in the terminal on your Z.
2. Install one of the qte-fonts, e.g. qte-font-helvetica-small
3. Add the environment variable KDEDIR by adding a line to /etc/profile.d/opie_defaults:
Code: [Select]
echo "export KDEDIR=/usr" >> /etc/profile.d/opie_defaults4. Then, copy the attached konqueror.png icon to /opt/QtPalmtop/pics/
5. To create an icon in opie's Applications tab, you have to add this .desktop file by hand:

/opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/konqueror.desktop:
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[Desktop Entry]
Comment=Konqueror
Exec=konqueror
Icon=konqueror.png
MimeType=text/html;
Type=Application
Name=Konqueror
CanFastload=1
Display=640x480/144dpi,480x640/144dpi
HidePrivilege=1
NeedSpace=8192
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: Greg2 on October 12, 2006, 04:25:21 pm
@7_feet_up

Works very well on my poodle. I did however have to modify the ipk directory structure for a /home install.

Could you please submit your bb to OE (if there are any changes from the one in dev), and attach it here for me?

Thanks  

Greg
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: 7_feet_up on October 13, 2006, 02:56:34 am
@Greg2

That's odd, I installed it @home without changes. Just linking the lot with ipkg-link did the job. I left the bb file untouched as well. The only thing I did is building what was already in the dev branch of OE.

Folkert

BTW nice avatar  I should look for another one, I'm afraid.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: Antikx on October 13, 2006, 08:27:42 am
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BTW nice avatar  I should look for another one, I'm afraid.
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I was going to recommend that you draw some glasses on yours.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: vputz on October 13, 2006, 04:14:27 pm
Hmm, interesting solution though I'll probably have to take the home-compiled approach for my Akita.  Thanks for the suggestion!
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: simbaB on October 13, 2006, 04:36:58 pm
I am getting an error about html4.css when I try to run the new Konqueror. I installed to /home and did the 'ipkg-link mount /home' bit, too.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: Greg2 on October 13, 2006, 06:00:36 pm
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Hmm, interesting solution though I'll probably have to take the home-compiled approach for my Akita.  Thanks for the suggestion!
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If you are using OZ3.5.4.1 or 3.5.4.2-xx/Opie this (7_feet_up's ipks), should work for you.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: Greg2 on October 13, 2006, 06:33:18 pm
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I am getting an error about html4.css when I try to run the new Konqueror. I installed to /home and did the 'ipkg-link mount /home' bit, too.
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Here, this one should work for you on your poodle... and it has the desktop.file and icon included. Please remove the other ipk first with remove -force-depends.
Here:
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: simbaB on October 13, 2006, 10:31:15 pm
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I am getting an error about html4.css when I try to run the new Konqueror. I installed to /home and did the 'ipkg-link mount /home' bit, too.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=143951\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Here, this one should work for you on your poodle... and it has the desktop.file and icon included. Please remove the other ipk first with remove -force-depends.
Here:
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=143961\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Many thanks, I will try this in the morning.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: 7_feet_up on October 21, 2006, 02:30:23 pm
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I am getting an error about html4.css when I try to run the new Konqueror. I installed to /home and did the 'ipkg-link mount /home' bit, too.
You have to add the environment variable KDEDIR so konqueror can find it. I added the instruction to my post above (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=146&t=21392#).
Also, you have to install one of the qte-fonts.
Title: Konqueror In Oz/opie... And Trouble With Hotels
Post by: KerwoodDerby on October 22, 2006, 04:26:24 pm
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....The solution for me was to upgrade konqueror-embedded to the development version (version 20060404). However, I had to build it using openembedded.

[tasty details omitted]

Thanks for your great advice. I fired up my OE installation and repeated your steps for my terrier, and now I've got the same success. Cheers!

(Oh, and as always, a tip of the hat to the OE heavy lifters -- you know who you are  ).

Marshall