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Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 21, 2006, 06:32:07 am
Has anyone out there done the remapping for a standard 101 keyboard?

I'd rather just use someone else's key mapping file than bother to do it myself..

My notes:

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Most keys work just like the keyboard on the Zaurus itself.

    * Tap and release alt gives the menu.

^p      = ^left
^b      = left
shift-- = =  (minus)
shift-+ = ~  (plus)
shift-  = |  (space)
shift-; = +
shift-' = *
shift-[ = `

` = (nothing)
; = /
/ = ,
[ = @

F1 = standby  (the power button?)
F2 = help
F3 = escape
F4 = text editor
F5 = calendar
F6 = address book
F7 = Mail
F8 = (nothing)
F9 = pc link
F10= (nothing)
F11= (nothing)
F12= (nothing)

http://jrandomhacker.info/Keyboards (http://jrandomhacker.info/Keyboards)
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Meanie on September 21, 2006, 08:47:38 am
try this: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkb..._2.4.20_arm.ipk (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkbd-en_2.4.20_arm.ipk)
plug in usb keyboard and keys are automatically remapped for us keyboard layout after 5 seconds, unplug keyboard and keys are remapped back for the Zaurus keyboard.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: dougeeebear on September 21, 2006, 09:57:46 am
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try this: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkb..._2.4.20_arm.ipk (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkbd-en_2.4.20_arm.ipk)
plug in usb keyboard and keys are automatically remapped for us keyboard layout after 5 seconds, unplug keyboard and keys are remapped back for the Zaurus keyboard.
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I don't have a keyboard to try it out (my desktop is a laptop), but this sounds like a really neat idea, so I might have to get one.

Do you think it would maintain the keyboard remapping when in Dosbox as well?
The reason I ask this is I have Windows 3.1 running in Dosbox, but the zaurus keyboard doesn't function in it.

Thanks Meanie for all your great work
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 21, 2006, 11:42:49 am
Thanks meanie.. I knew about such things, but the solutions were all for pdaxrom.

dougeeebear -- yes the remapping should also work in dosbox.. I remember doing remapping experiments and it also applied to things like a commodore 64 emulator.. so you should be ok with dosbox.

But you say that your keyboard isn't working at all in dosbox.. so perhaps there is a larger issue here.  It seems strange..

I've also got a c1000, and I'm very interested in getting DOS emulation working.

If all you want is to use a keyboard that's better than the c1000.. then perhaps networking and running a remote control appliation would work for you.

My next step is to get a portable keyboard.. but it's difficult to track down a decent one.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: dougeeebear on September 21, 2006, 12:08:51 pm
My keyboard does work ok in Dosbox, but it does not respond after I load Windows.

I copied the whole windows directory over from an older laptop, and the keyboard is set for a US keyboard, and I think there might be a conflict there with the zaurus non-standard keyboard.

As soon as I get a mouse for my zaurus, I will try to change the keyboard country settings.
I don't know if it will work or not, but I'm surprised that windows even loads up.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Jon_J on September 21, 2006, 12:35:23 pm
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My keyboard does work ok in Dosbox, but it does not respond after I load Windows.

I copied the whole windows directory over from an older laptop, and the keyboard is set for a US keyboard, and I think there might be a conflict there with the zaurus non-standard keyboard.

As soon as I get a mouse for my zaurus, I will try to change the keyboard country settings.
I don't know if it will work or not, but I'm surprised that windows even loads up.
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I hate to go off topic, but here goes...
dougeeebear, you said you loaded windows 3.1 in dosbox.
My question is, many years ago there was a version of windows 95 that was stripped down, and it was called "windows lite"
It had most or all of the "Bloat" removed.
Have you seen such a thing?
I had a copy of it 5 or 6 years ago and it ran really well on an older PC.
I just cannot seem to find it in my huge stack of CDRs and DVDRs
If windows could be run inside dosbox, I would think "windows lite" would be a good candidate.
I have a ton of software that will run in both versions of windows, (16 bit & 32bit)
BTW, I still have original copies of Win 3.1 on 5.25" and the current size floppies.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 21, 2006, 12:40:58 pm
Do you mean Windows lite from these guys?

http://www.litepc.com (http://www.litepc.com)
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Jon_J on September 21, 2006, 12:57:52 pm
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Do you mean Windows lite from these guys?

http://www.litepc.com (http://www.litepc.com)
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Something like that, but was windows 95 lite. (It was free then)
I googled found and many refrences to "Windows 95 Lite Free" (I'm sure that's what I had).
I don't know if it's free anymore, and none of the refrences I mentioned above offer a download.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: bluedevils on September 21, 2006, 02:10:26 pm
Has this been out for a while?  I remember people working on a version originally for the 6000, but I thought that version was too buggy and I didn't hear anything more on it.  I'll probably try this out tonight.  Thanks Meanie and congrats on the anniversary.  My 3100's birthday is in November....

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try this: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkb..._2.4.20_arm.ipk (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkbd-en_2.4.20_arm.ipk)
plug in usb keyboard and keys are automatically remapped for us keyboard layout after 5 seconds, unplug keyboard and keys are remapped back for the Zaurus keyboard.
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Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: agoodm on September 21, 2006, 05:15:41 pm
Can this work with a UK mapped keyboard?
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 21, 2006, 05:27:42 pm
I think that it would be easy to install this, and then edit the keymap file that it uses.

I might end up doing that with a russian keyboard.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: dougeeebear on September 21, 2006, 05:30:46 pm
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My keyboard does work ok in Dosbox, but it does not respond after I load Windows.

I copied the whole windows directory over from an older laptop, and the keyboard is set for a US keyboard, and I think there might be a conflict there with the zaurus non-standard keyboard.

As soon as I get a mouse for my zaurus, I will try to change the keyboard country settings.
I don't know if it will work or not, but I'm surprised that windows even loads up.
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I just installed Dosbox on my windoze pc, and copied win-31 to it the same way I did with my z.
The keyboard doesn't work on that either, so it's nothing to do with the z keyboard.
I tried to copy the installation disks to a CF card so I could do a regular install, but my disk1 has an error.
Lucky me.
I'll have to figure out another way to cure it.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 21, 2006, 05:38:58 pm
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DOSEMU-HOWTO-8.html (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DOSEMU-HOWTO-8.html)

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8.1 Is it possible to run MS-Windows 3.1 under dosemu?

The ../doc/README.Windows file says:

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*    WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!   *
*                                                             *
*  Danger Will Robinson!!!  This is not yet fully supported   *
*  and there are many known bugs!  Large programs will almost *
*  certainly NOT WORK!!!  BE PREPARED FOR SYSTEM CRASHES IF   *
*  YOU TRY THIS!!!                                            *
*                                                             *
*    WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!   *
***************************************************************

I've also seen rederences to running windows in real mode, with win /R

Some people say that the mouse and keyboard do work together.. see http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t437898.html (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/index.php/t437898.html)

So perhaps it is a keyboard mapping issue after all!

I guess changing the locale could work..
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: dougeeebear on September 21, 2006, 06:07:11 pm
Got the keyboard working in Dosbox/win-31.
It was just a setting in windows setup.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: Sy Ali on September 24, 2006, 04:05:24 pm
Well, using the driver "worked" except that no keys were mapped.  I removed the driver and rebooted.. and now the keyboard won't work at all.

Something strange is happening.  I'll wait for my other keyboard to arrive and I'll try again.
Title: Cacko Keyboard Mapping For A Us-101/104 Keyboard
Post by: bluedevils on October 05, 2006, 04:57:51 pm
Well I tried it and it immediately hard locked my machine.  Does this work for many others or are there others with the same experience?

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Has this been out for a while?  I remember people working on a version originally for the 6000, but I thought that version was too buggy and I didn't hear anything more on it.  I'll probably try this out tonight.  Thanks Meanie and congrats on the anniversary.  My 3100's birthday is in November....

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try this: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkb..._2.4.20_arm.ipk (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/usbkbd-en_2.4.20_arm.ipk)
plug in usb keyboard and keys are automatically remapped for us keyboard layout after 5 seconds, unplug keyboard and keys are remapped back for the Zaurus keyboard.
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