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Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: xamindar on September 30, 2006, 06:43:42 pm
Has anyone set up their zaurus to dial out through a bluetooth phone to access the internet?  I did it with my pc and would really love to do it with my zaurus.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: craigtyson on September 30, 2006, 06:52:21 pm
See post https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...c=21237&hl=gprs (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21237&hl=gprs)

Works in the UK,Europe and Asia GSM/GPRS world dont think it works in USA or Japan
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: dougeeebear on September 30, 2006, 07:00:54 pm
@craigtyson:

Sorry for the OT reply, but your sig is really great
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 01, 2006, 01:50:46 pm
I use the internet through my phone all the time.  search my posts.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: zeigerpuppy on October 02, 2006, 04:59:17 am
also see my howto on the same issue.
http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/G...etOverBluetooth (http://greenant.net/portal/greenant/wiki/GPRSInternetOverBluetooth)
works great, I get up to 60Kbyte/sec on 3G
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: Cresho on October 02, 2006, 05:33:43 am
yep, its really easy.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: xamindar on October 03, 2006, 02:32:44 am
Thanks guys, I guess I'll go buy a CF bluetooth card now that I know it is possible.  I can't get the usb dongle that I have to work on the zaurus.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: Cresho on October 03, 2006, 02:34:02 am
hmm..research on the ones that work. not all work.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: xamindar on October 03, 2006, 02:42:26 am
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hmm..research on the ones that work. not all work.
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I figured it would because it works on my Linux machine.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: nilch on October 03, 2006, 12:27:23 pm
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I use the internet through my phone all the time.  search my posts.
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Hi bluedevils,

how fast is connection this way with a Bluetooth card connection to the phone ?

If its good, I am thinking I will also go this way, since now I don't have free wifi (or even paid) anywhere near where I work.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 03, 2006, 12:47:48 pm
on sprint I was getting 270kBps download.  I can surf ok.  Opera and netfront seem to be more of the problem as they sometimes crash on very graphical sites.  Gaim is a breeze and I download mail and attachments not a problem.

On the other hand this should never be considered a primary internet connection.

edit:  I think I put down kbps when it should have kBps
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 03, 2006, 12:56:52 pm
BTW the bottleneck is probably bluetooth as using the usb cable is supposed to be closer to the 500-700 kBps, but unfortunatetly I haven't been able to get the Z to recognize my phone as a modem (samsung a920)
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on October 03, 2006, 01:09:07 pm
I'm getting the bluetooth card that cresho has.  The ambicom with the little blue dude surfing away from the pc.  A guy here in san jose has one but according to ebay it seems he has a couple.  I noticed him in craigslist and compared it for ebay.  Does anyone want me to ask about buying more than one.  They are going for $35.  I'll just pass the deal along.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: xamindar on October 03, 2006, 01:09:47 pm
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Opera and netfront seem to be more of the problem as they sometimes crash on very graphical sites.

Is that somehow a result of the bluetooth connection?

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On the other hand this should never be considered a primary internet connection.
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Why not?  Is it crippled in some way?  I was hoping it would work just like a normal internet connection so that I could use it anywhere I go.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on October 03, 2006, 01:10:43 pm
Oh btw... I'll be getting a new bluetooth cell phone today too so..... whooohooooo!!!!!!!  I noticed on another thread that the Zaurii can somewhat work like a sidekick... is that statement true with SMS... the other thread sort of died.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 03, 2006, 01:32:59 pm
I doubt it.  Iit only happens on graphic intensive sites and I'm pretty sure it happens with wifi too.  Other sites like cnn work fine.  I'm more inclined to think it is too many files being cached and the Z memory/swap can't handle it.

I would never use it to download an iso of the latest linux distro or RDP through a VPN.  It's just not fast enough.

For email, IM, web surfing, ftping of the latest IPK or ssh, it does the job.

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Is that somehow a result of the bluetooth connection?

Why not?  Is it crippled in some way?  I was hoping it would work just like a normal internet connection so that I could use it anywhere I go.
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Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: rob_figlabs on October 03, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
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Has anyone set up their zaurus to dial out through a bluetooth phone to access the internet?  I did it with my pc and would really love to do it with my zaurus.
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If you don't fancy fiddling with the config files and want a GUI to do it for you, try our Bluefig software here:
[a href=\"http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/54]http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_inf.../products_id/54[/url]

For a GPRS connection, your network will almost certainly be the bottleneck. For 3G, depending on how good your connection is, you may find that the Bluetooth link starts becoming the bottleneck - 30-40 Kbytes per second is about the limit, but still rather good for web surfing.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: Cresho on October 03, 2006, 05:34:51 pm
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Opera and netfront seem to be more of the problem as they sometimes crash on very graphical sites.

Is that somehow a result of the bluetooth connection?

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On the other hand this should never be considered a primary internet connection.
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Why not?  Is it crippled in some way?  I was hoping it would work just like a normal internet connection so that I could use it anywhere I go.
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Mines do not crash at all, i am using the memory applet i sent you xam!!  He most likely looses memory and it crashes.

if you guys are having problems with your bluetooth, PM me because i modifed a few to get it working on my zaurus 3200.

I am using the sharprom, meanies bluetooth 1.23-1 does not work for me at all.  It identifies the phone but fails to log into it.  I havent messeged meanie but that was my problem with that one.  The cacko rom seemed to work fine for me...i think i cant remember for the life of me but reason i went back to sharprom was instability issues.

meanie gaved me a hint as to where to fix the problem and i managed to slap a ipk which works great.

if you guys have problems, just pm me and ill help out.  its really easy.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bam on October 03, 2006, 09:05:20 pm
a step by step how to would be nice
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: xamindar on October 03, 2006, 09:13:56 pm
Anyone know of a way to look up what revision a socket bluetooth card is just by the serial number?  The serial no. is 0312001151

hmm...
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: zmiq2 on October 04, 2006, 04:13:48 am
xamindar,

over the s/n barcde there's another one, which is the part number. Mine is 8510-00159G, which means revG.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bam on October 04, 2006, 04:23:05 am
actually I figured this out between 2 tutorials, one on doing this in OZ and the other with cacko, cool I dont need the bluefig applet anymore....
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on October 05, 2006, 03:18:55 pm
Finally got the sprint katana phone and the ambicom bluetooth with the little tooth surfing away from the pc.  I can pair with the Z and run obex commands however when trying to run the DUN with the network app it sees the phone and starts to use as a modem however just dies.  I doulble check username and pass and even reset it through sprints site.  Is there a way to see logs or kick off the dial up networking from the console?  Would it be a dund command?  I can't figure out what I'm missing or where to look at.  

[Acct info]
username and pass:  Tried set and not set.... tried full "username"@sprintpcs.com  and just "username"

Phone # : #777 (sprint)

[Modem]
default

[Network]
tried Windows PP compatible script ticked and unticked.
everything else ticked

[Proxies]
default

[Bluetooth]
recognizes bt address and sets right channel for dial up networking.  

A sdptool browse shows this

Service Name: Dial-up Networking
Service RecHandle: 0x10002
Service Class ID List:
  "Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  "L2CAP" (0x0100)
  "RFCOMM" (0x0003)
    Channel: 8
Language Base Attr List:
  code_ISO639: 0x656e
  encoding:    0x6a
  base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
  "Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
    Version: 0x0100


Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 05, 2006, 04:16:28 pm
have you rebooted both devices?  I was pulling my hair when I first tried it and reboot the devices made things work.
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on October 05, 2006, 05:39:35 pm
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have you rebooted both devices?  I was pulling my hair when I first tried it and reboot the devices made things work.
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Yeah.. and just to make sure I rebooted both devices again.....same thing...  
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on October 06, 2006, 11:15:24 am
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Finally got the sprint katana phone and the ambicom bluetooth with the little tooth surfing away from the pc.  I can pair with the Z and run obex commands however when trying to run the DUN with the network app it sees the phone and starts to use as a modem however just dies.  I doulble check username and pass and even reset it through sprints site.  Is there a way to see logs or kick off the dial up networking from the console?  Would it be a dund command?  I can't figure out what I'm missing or where to look at. 

[Acct info]
username and pass:  Tried set and not set.... tried full "username"@sprintpcs.com  and just "username"

Phone # : #777 (sprint)

[Modem]
default

[Network]
tried Windows PP compatible script ticked and unticked.
everything else ticked

[Proxies]
default

[Bluetooth]
recognizes bt address and sets right channel for dial up networking. 

A sdptool browse shows this

Service Name: Dial-up Networking
Service RecHandle: 0x10002
Service Class ID List:
  "Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  "L2CAP" (0x0100)
  "RFCOMM" (0x0003)
    Channel: 8
Language Base Attr List:
  code_ISO639: 0x656e
  encoding:    0x6a
  base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
  "Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
    Version: 0x0100


Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: bluedevils on October 06, 2006, 11:43:20 am
it'll probably take till sunday for me to look back at my configs.  I'll try to this when I get the time
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: harvell on January 11, 2007, 07:59:55 pm
Just to follow-up on this.  All my settings were correct with my Z.  It turns out that Sprint needed to enable a service for my phone which was "Phone as a Modem."  This cost somewhere in the range of $30 a month however now I have the internet anywhere I get a phone signal.  Business wise this allows me to service clients on the fly and edit myspace quickly  
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: Antikx on January 11, 2007, 08:32:21 pm
very cool. Good job!
Title: Bluetooth Tethering With Zaurus?
Post by: Zauri on May 18, 2007, 07:54:18 am
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Has anyone set up their zaurus to dial out through a bluetooth phone to access the internet?  I did it with my pc and would really love to do it with my zaurus.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=142746\")
If you don't fancy fiddling with the config files and want a GUI to do it for you, try our Bluefig software here:
[a href=\"http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/54]http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_inf.../products_id/54[/url]

For a GPRS connection, your network will almost certainly be the bottleneck. For 3G, depending on how good your connection is, you may find that the Bluetooth link starts becoming the bottleneck - 30-40 Kbytes per second is about the limit, but still rather good for web surfing.
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So Rob, by your website, it looks like you don't sell BlueFig anymore. Is this correct? It looks like good software...