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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: mtfbwy on October 09, 2006, 09:34:51 am
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Anyone else see this? Any more specs that the ones listed here?
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/09/sharp-z...nic-dictionary/ (http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/09/sharp-zaurus-cmp2000r-electronic-dictionary/)
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Isnt that the new one Sharp are putting PPC on? hence the change in model naming
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Anyone else see this? Any more specs that the ones listed here?
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/09/sharp-z...nic-dictionary/ (http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/09/sharp-zaurus-cmp2000r-electronic-dictionary/)
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According to Akihabara, this is a version of the Zaurus to be released to the Korean market. I don't think it will be released in Japan.
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Isnt that the new one Sharp are putting PPC on? hence the change in model naming
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It is unclear what is on it. Qt: no. PPC: no. Application specific (Picture, MP3, E-Book): yes.
Take a look (most of us can't read korean language but interpret the pictures): [a href=\"http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/product/realdic_prditm.asp?pid=363]http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/pro...itm.asp?pid=363[/url]
I would say: it looks like a reduced Zaurus plus some nice features. Did you see that it has less keys? No HDD? SD only? More predefined active buttons on the screen (left&right) side?
It is not even called a Zaurus. But it shows that the next Zaurus could easily have an integrated camera because they know how to do it.
Maybe, they simply reused some of the mechanics design for the twister display.
-- hns
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It may have very little in common with the current C-xxxx series Zaurii indeed. Don't forget the 'Zaurus' product line has been through quite a bit of evolution (both in mechanics and in purpose). At it's roots it was an electronic dictionary. They may simply be attaching the Zaurus name to this product to express that.
Kinda like the modern Dodge Charger. Mechanically speaking it has almost nohing in common with it's predecessor. But the Name conjurs the image they are trying to evoke...
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the biggest thing missing from it is a numeric row of keys - there's only 9 "keys" above the letters, but the pictures are not detailed enough to really see whether these would rock side to side to work as numbers?
I think it's promising news, as it means Sharp are still producing clamshell pda-like devices, and maybe, just maybe, once they've tested the technology, they will enhance the C3xxx or C1xxx series with this one's features, namely:
* camera
* radio
* microphone/s (looks like stereo or echo-cancelling system with two microphones)
I don't understand the language to tell if there are any technical specifications for it, so no word on whether the screen is still VGA, whether it has more memory than a linux Z. It might or might not still be QT/linux based, I hope it is, as there are clearly some new applications such as eBook reader and camera software.
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found online Kr->En translator, but everything's a bitmap so it doesn't work. d'oh!
price is about GBP190, or US$350. hmm.
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if you follow the links there are more detailed pictures. The numbers are on a alternate case set on the top most "regular" keys just like the 5x00 and 6000 series.
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if you follow the links there are more detailed pictures. The numbers are on a alternate case set on the top most "regular" keys just like the 5x00 and 6000 series.
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I didn't think of looking at the letter keys, I thought that the 6000 had proven that putting numbers as an alt-letter key was dumb. sigh. I guess it's OK for dictionaries, but no good for us power user linux command dudes
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Link page translated in Babel fish:-
Indication department 320 x 240dots/65000 colors 12X12 font English 53 person X18 line and the Korean alphabet 26 person X18 line 16X16 font English 39 person X13 line and the Korean alphabet 19 person X13 line 24X24 font English 26 person X10 line and the Korean alphabet 13 person X10 line
Memory - notebook memory: 128KB (Flash memory) - file memory: 128KB (The picture it sold, stenography)
Use letter KSC5601 standard cord standard and the Korean alphabet: 2,350 person Chinese character 8,202 person, alphabet, number and symbolic back
Dictionary vice- populace Es sense national language dictionary: 220,000 U books publishing examples recording Chinese character jade side before humble refusal characteristic U important matter: 8,202 people (the commercial business Chinese character internal organs) YBM current events English company e4u zero one dictionary: 229,600 U before YBM current events English company e4u one consul: 185,000 U Collins Cobuild Advanced Learner's English Dictionary: 162,000 U Collins Thesaurus A~Z: 473,000 U Collins Cobuild English Usage populace Es sense English phrase dictionary: 15,000 U YBM current events Power Vocabulary 100000 recording populace Es sense utility English conversational dictionary: 25,000 sentence current events super power business zero composition recording the conversational old story 140 which "a Korean of the monk whose the essence expression 3600 recording which is necessary to a YBM current events E-mail certainly is cold certainly will do to know" populace Es sense the dictionary which works: 115,000 U Venus nyu su Korean-Japanese dictionary: 110,000 U current events compared to best Japanese Chinese character the dictionary which it reads: 63,200 U populace Es sense utility Japanese conversational dictionaries: JPT word king recording which comes out certainly to 20,000 sentence Orient library Japanese grammatical dictionary recording Orient library Japanese expression sentence pattern dictionary recording Orient library examinations populace Es sense important dictionary: 145,200 U populace Es sense Korean-Chinese application dictionaries: 33,000 U populace Es sense present-day Chinese conversational dictionaries: 8,800 U The school gate company the national history dictionary recording Buddhist temple world history which it writes newly dictionary recording which is small everyday the economic economic wearing dictionary: 6,400 U crown publishing companies nyu millennium PC terminology dictionary: 9,500 U the present cancer company legal terminology dictionary recording compared to difficulty financial terminology dictionary recording Be delighted travel conversation 11 volume recording of pocket inside User territory - the maximum length of each data summary 2,000byte- directory number department: Name and current collection anger, company transformation, FAX and hand phone, - directory number department: Address and other (name: One writing (Chinese writing) 3 letter numbers: - Inclusion 35 letter - directory number department: One case 1,950 case) - maul wool: The Korean alphabet 28 letter (zero and number 56 person) one case 1,950 case - schedule: The Korean alphabet 15 letter (zero and number 31 person) one case 1,950 case - commemoration day: The Korean alphabet 26 letter (zero and number 52 person) standard 1,950 case - schedule: Name, professor life, place back Korean alphabet 19 letter (zero and number 39 letter) standard 1,950 case Calculator department - calculation place possibility: 12 places (three place dividing symbolic displays) - simplicity calculation - unit change: 12 units - the exchange rate calculation: Until 12 places possibility Clock department - amendment takeoff frequency: 32,768Hz- Clock degree: Even every month 0 candle (circumference temperature 25 one time) - indication contents: Year and month, one, day, poem, minute, candle AM/PM- indication contents: 12/24 hours in city life exchange function before me - world-wide clock function: Date of week 125 cities, time, it is bitter me time ticket hour Camera 1300000 pixel All the member - charging Ji: Li-ion 3.7V/1150mAH- AC adapter: AC 110~240V - DC 6.0V Automatic conservation of electricity function 30 second ~10 minute Size 131 (W) x 91.3 (D) x 23.5 (H) mm Weight about 270g (change of air inclusion) The accessories instruction manual and charging Ji, is, the phone, the AC adapter sprouting pen, the case, the card leader, the CD-ROM, the Japanese input card customer proposal card, A/S list and the name label back Free contents child work 365 English
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So, not really a new "Zaurus."
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So, not really a new "Zaurus."
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I would even say: not a "Zaurus".
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no VGA, no camera, no wireless, no CF slot... lame.
so, I wonder what sort of batteries it takes? that might be the only useful thing it does. Hope it takes SL-6000 batteries :-/
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Another Sharp PDA?
I found this linked to the akihabara link
http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/pro...itm.asp?pid=355 (http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/product/realdic_prditm.asp?pid=355)
akihabara has better pics, shows camera
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12557...+for+Korea.html (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12557-Sharp+RD-CMP2000R%2C+the+Zaurus+for+Korea.html)
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Another Sharp PDA?
I found this linked to the akihabara link
http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/pro...itm.asp?pid=355 (http://www.sharp-korea.co.kr/22realdic/product/realdic_prditm.asp?pid=355)
akihabara has better pics, shows camera
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12557...+for+Korea.html (http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-12557-Sharp+RD-CMP2000R%2C+the+Zaurus+for+Korea.html)
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WOW! the second link is a zaurus and i wonder how we can translate it. Does it run qtopia? I know that my zaurus has optional camera controls and they must of started development on it but most likely stoped the development on it for the next generation.
I see this one has built in stereo speakers, and a camera on the back from the second link. Very cool.
update- I can already see it does not run qtopia.
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if this is the "next gen" zaurus, it will be a step backwards(well a fews steps)
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update- I can already see it does not run qtopia.
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Well, if it ain't running Qtopia, it ain't a Zaurus, full stop.
At least if it isn't open in some way like Qtopia and instead is some propreitary platform again, then I cant call it a Zaurus, can I ?
To me it looks like they had a lot of the Zaurus casings and the whole case manufacturing units lying around, so they just used that to make an attractive dictionary.
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At least if it isn't open in some way like Qtopia and instead is some propreitary platform again, then I cant call it a Zaurus, can I ?
It is not even called a Zaurus by Sharp.
-- hns
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update- I can already see it does not run qtopia.
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Well, if it ain't running Qtopia, it ain't a Zaurus, full stop.
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So the c700 on my desk and the 5600, c1000 and c3000 I used last week aren't zaurusses?
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update- I can already see it does not run qtopia.
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Well, if it ain't running Qtopia, it ain't a Zaurus, full stop.
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So the c700 on my desk and the 5600, c1000 and c3000 I used last week aren't zaurusses?
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He was specifically meaning this new Sharp device, which looks very much like a Zaurus, but does not ship with Qtopia, hence it is not a Zaurus. All those Zaurus devices on your desk came out of the factory with Qtopia installed, which I am sure you are aware. So, if it wasn't for Qtopia, they probably wouldn't be on your desk in the first place.
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Well, if it ain't running Qtopia, it ain't a Zaurus, full stop.Â
Hm. I think I have to drop some gas into the fire...
Approx. 10 years ago i did have a Sharp Zaurus something (I don't really remember the name and do not longer have it) with a b&w display, keyboard and a PCMCIA (not CF!) slot.
Ah, here is a spec: http://www.pdastreet.com/hardware/Sharp-Za...treet-pdas.html (http://www.pdastreet.com/hardware/Sharp-Zaurus-5000-5700-5800-2001-5-3-pdastreet-pdas.html)
And it was a Zaurus because Sharp did call it so, although it did have neither Qtopia nor Linux.
-- hns
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Come-on guys you are trying to split hairs over a simple matter - you know very well we are talking about the new Sharp device and we here at OESF forums know a Zaurus for the Zaurus with Qtopia (factory installed - in case the Opie guys get all linguistic over my definition) - not the Zaurus with Sharp's proprietary platform as it was before - the MI series or whatever it was called. And yeah, I know Sharp called it a Zaurus too.
But to us OESF members a Zaurus is what we VERY WELL know it to be - so come-on lets end this terminology war and just recognise that the new device is NOT a Zaurus.
I guess the dissapointment that its not a new "Zaurus" after all, is telling, hence all this hair plitting over nothing.
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Come-on guys you are trying to split hairs over a simple matter - you know very well we are talking about the new Sharp device and we here at OESF forums know a Zaurus for the Zaurus with Qtopia (factory installed - in case the Opie guys get all linguistic over my definition) - not the Zaurus with Sharp's proprietary platform as it was before - the MI series or whatever it was called. And yeah, I know Sharp called it a Zaurus too.
But to us OESF members a Zaurus is what we VERY WELL know it to be - so come-on lets end this terminology war and just recognise that the new device is NOT a Zaurus.
I guess the dissapointment that its not a new "Zaurus" after all, is telling, hence all this hair plitting over nothing.
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It is a bit disappointing that this is not the next gen Zaurus. How similar are the Japanese and Korean consumers? I hope this is a sign of things to come (integrated camera, wifi, gps, toothpick holder).
It seems that the low-end pda market has been consumed by the smart phone and the high-end pda market is going the way of gps or pvp. So how about a Zaurus with integrated wifi, gps and pvp capabilities.
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For the qtopia and our current z's, I did see some hints of a camera and more gps integration. Not sure if the c-3300 will have any of these features. From the picture, all I see is an added camera, and one sd slot, and a far thinner zaurus, stereo speakers, probably a mic. We have microdrives and sd and a far bulkier Zaurus.
If they were a bit smarter, maybee a swivle camera at one side of the lid for webcam? eh? hows that!
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For the qtopia and our current z's, I did see some hints of a camera and more gps integration. Not sure if the c-3300 will have any of these features. From the picture, all I see is an added camera, and one sd slot, and a far thinner zaurus, stereo speakers, probably a mic. We have microdrives and sd and a far bulkier Zaurus.
If they were a bit smarter, maybee a swivle camera at one side of the lid for webcam? eh? hows that!
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I reckon my next overseas trip will be to korea to pick up some new gadgets
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3.5" LCD ... guess its not interesting ... my Akita has a 3.8" (or 3.7") LCD and I'm hoping SHARP releases a 4.0" or 4.5" LCD Zaurus.
Naye, not quite making it ...
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We have microdrives and sd and a far bulkier Zaurus.
Considering the amount of stuff that Nokia managed to plan to put into their newly announced N95 I'm sure there's plenty of room inside the current Z casings for a lot more goodies, or plenty of scope to reduce the bulk. Heck, even the screen of the Z is nearly as thick as the new Samsung slim phones