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Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: shadowfang156 on March 03, 2004, 04:21:14 pm
does anyone know how to convert the sharp zaurus sl-5500 from the linux os to the winodws mobile os (either pocket pc 2002 or 2003 os)? if anyone knows how to do so, please contact me ASAP!!!
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2004, 04:36:47 pm
It\'s simple. Wave your hands in a circle 3 times above your zaurus, say \"alakazam!\", sell your zaurus, buy a pocket pc, and your done!
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Mitch on March 03, 2004, 05:41:37 pm
Get a copy of a pocket pc rom from one with a keyboard and SD and CF slots and pray it works, I tried, it doesn\'t.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: jason123 on March 04, 2004, 02:39:07 am
WHY!?!?!
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: V-Man on March 04, 2004, 10:45:29 pm
From what I understand, PocketPC OS is custom configured to match the specific hardware of each PDA model.  The ROMs are not compatible across models.  Sorry...
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: jason123 on March 05, 2004, 12:30:21 am
errmm.....  i meant more along the lines of WHY WOULD U WANT TO SWITCH?!?!?!?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: CoreyC on March 05, 2004, 12:47:20 am
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errmm.....  i meant more along the lines of WHY WOULD U WANT TO SWITCH?!?!?!?

hehe... no kidding.  If you really want a PocketPC, sell your zaurus.  You could probably get a ipaq h1910 for about the same price.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: padishah_emperor on March 06, 2004, 06:36:43 am
yes, use a tin opener to open the skull, lean forward and watch the brain fall out on to the floor, keel over dead, process done.

yawn....
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2004, 08:29:44 am
Why be a Windows basher? Use Pocketpc as a tool along with linux to do the job. For playing, have fun.

No need to switch; use both. Don\'t sell the Zaurus, buy a pocketpc.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: padishah_emperor on March 06, 2004, 09:10:04 am
I have to accept that people have different views.

But I don\'t see the point in hunting down probably one of the most obscure computers out there which only runs Linux and then start wondering \"why oh why\" Windows can\'t run on it. I mean, correct me if I\'m wrong, there are trillions of these mass produced Windows PDAs out there, some are incredibly cheap too. Why buy a Z in the first place?

I have never, and never will, understand who needs more than 1 PDA, unless your job gives you one.

But, like I say, each to their own I suppose.
 

[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Why bash Windows? mmh, let me see...[/span]
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: ScottYelich on March 06, 2004, 05:06:19 pm
/me squints
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2004, 06:13:48 pm
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I have never, and never will, understand who needs more than 1 PDA, unless your job gives you one.
But, like I say, each to their own I suppose.
It is painfully obvious to me that a linux PDA can do things that a pocketpc cannot, and vice versa. I respect your opinion. You have the free choice to use just one because you \"never will understand.\"  :wink: Have a good day.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Joshp on March 06, 2004, 07:40:12 pm
Will lets see you need a pda for both hands, and all of your pockets.  And one that sits in the cradle chargeing so you have full charged 24/7. :wink:
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2004, 04:38:53 am
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I mean, correct me if I\'m wrong, there are trillions of these mass produced Windows PDAs out there

Okay,  you\'re wrong:  it\'s only millions  :twisted:

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I have never, and never will, understand who needs more than 1 PDA, unless your job gives you one.

Well,  if it\'s only a \"PDA\",  you\'re right.  But,  as I\'ve often pointed out,  the Z (and,  to a lesser extent,  the Palm and the PPC) is not \"just a PDA\".  They can also be used as computers.  Or even just terminals:  the \"GiantDisc\" MP3 server uses a dedicated Palm as its \"front panel\",  because it\'s cheaper to buy a used Palm III than a new text-only LCD with a serial interface.

And,  as you pointed out,  many PDAs are cheap these days.  So,  if there\'s an application for which an \"X\" doesn\'t work well,  there\'s a good chance that it\'s worth buying a \"Y\" to use for that purpose,  Or even to buy one to dedicate to it,  so you can keep your \"main\" unit in your pocket all the time.

I had a similar discussion with a GPS salesman the other day:  he questioned the wisdom of using a PDA with a serial-interfaced GPS when you could buy a GPS with all that functionality in a single compact package.  My response was that it\'s rather like buying a component stereo,  in that you can upgrade parts of it if you want/need better performance.  But it also means that you can use the PDA part of the system for more than one purpose,  and not have to lug the GPS part around in your pocket when you\'re not using it.

So,  the answer to your puzzle is \"Dammit,  Jim!  It\'s a \'Personal Mobile Tool\',  not a \'PDA\'!\"  ;-)

Ran
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: markw on March 09, 2004, 08:39:21 pm
Ive tried 2 different pocketpcs (ipaq1935,dellaxim) and they suck. you should never ever wan\'t to convert your zaurus into one. If you realy want to you might try asking MS for the source code for WM2003 and the compile it for the zaurus. you will need the drivers from sharp of course.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: VeeDubb on March 09, 2004, 10:16:54 pm
I used to use PPC\'s, and I think you guys are being a litle harsh, though I must agree, it\'s nuttier than squirel turds to try and install Windows mobile on a Z.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 12:29:33 am
I have questions:
- Can we run .Net application on Zaurus?
- Can we run Macromedia Flash on Zaurus?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 12:39:09 am
no
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: VeeDubb on March 11, 2004, 12:07:08 pm
I know, but if those are important, the Z is the wrong device.  It\'s like trying to install windows on a Mac.  If you absolutely must use windows apps, get a PC, don\'t try and emulate it on a mac.  Same thing here.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: ScottYelich on March 11, 2004, 12:10:41 pm
well, perhaps to be a little more accurate ...
yes, you *can* run those things -- but the performance would probably not be acceptable.

Scott
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: sysmax on March 12, 2004, 11:41:17 pm
I think ability to run Flash is important. Many websites today are using Flash. Without capability to run Flash, we can\'t access a lot of information available in Flash format.

There is Flash Player for Linux x86, can we port it into Xscale for Z?
PocketPC and Sony Clie can run Flash, why Z can\'t?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: lardman on March 13, 2004, 04:55:43 am
Aaaagggghhhhh, how many times have I said this?

I have ported it.

But it\'s for X only. Has anyone tested it?


Simon
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: vishnja on March 13, 2004, 05:20:33 am
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I used to use PPC\'s, and I think you guys are being a litle harsh, though I must agree, it\'s nuttier than squirel turds to try and install Windows mobile on a Z.

You found the right words :-)
With so many PPC\'s out there to buy a Z and try to install Windows!
Is there a story behind it?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: CoreyC on March 13, 2004, 06:27:32 am
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Aaaagggghhhhh, how many times have I said this?

I have ported it.

But it\'s for X only. Has anyone tested it?


Simon

I justed tested it, and it works!

I\'ll have to hunt down some files that work with your port...  I have to work today, but I\'ll get on it tonight.  If I find anything useful I\'ll build some ipks for you.

Is there a newer source that you can compile?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: lardman on March 13, 2004, 06:42:25 am
That was all I could find and in fact the author\'s web site disappeared soon after I grabbed the source.

The source and binaries are all in the same tarball so someone (some madman who wants flash that is ;-)) can continue development if they so desire.


Si
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: VeeDubb on March 13, 2004, 01:03:57 pm
:evil:  :evil:   Great lardman, way to go.  NOw I have ANOTHER reason to be jealous of all the guys with c860\'s and cacko.    :wink:

Seriously though, what I would give to be able to afford one.....   Oh well.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: realistic_dragon on March 13, 2004, 03:33:32 pm
Personally I like the internet without flash  I even surf using the \'mobile device\' links on my desktop - usually get max one (static) ad per page, everything downloads very fast, a much nicer experience, something like it used to be back in 1994 before the fwits, corporate scum and flash came to the internet. Except this time, everyone realises that animated gifs are foul - and no BLINK tag in sight. Yay!
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: markw on March 13, 2004, 04:30:34 pm
flash toataly usless except for games and fancy site logos. the internet was made to transfer information from one person to another. flash defeats the whole purpose of the internet. now instead of having just information, like it was intended, you have a bunch of multimedia junk.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2004, 05:44:46 pm
I think it is good if we have freedom of chose to install Linux or Windows in our PDA, like we can do this on PC. Or maybe dual boot if possible?
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: markw on March 13, 2004, 06:42:49 pm
If you buy a ipaq 3xxx device then you can install linux or windows(pocket pc). the zaurus is a linux only device.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: VeeDubb on March 13, 2004, 11:27:16 pm
Yes, if you feal it is absolutely critical to have both, you can do so on certain ipaq models.  Check out http://www.handhelds.org (http://www.handhelds.org)
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: sysmax on March 14, 2004, 01:41:11 am
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Aaaagggghhhhh, how many times have I said this?

I have ported it.

But it\'s for X only. Has anyone tested it?


Simon

Hi Simon,
Where did you put it? I wanna try.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: lardman on March 14, 2004, 08:07:11 am
http://sgp.zaurii.net/binaries/flash-0.4.10_arm.tar.gz (http://sgp.zaurii.net/binaries/flash-0.4.10_arm.tar.gz)

Si
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: ScottYelich on March 14, 2004, 04:56:05 pm
which gcc? this will work under ... pdaXrom (gcc 3,etc?)

Scott
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: lardman on March 14, 2004, 05:43:50 pm
It\'s gcc 2.95.3, libc2.2, basically it should work with OZ3.2 (which is what I compiled it for).

Si
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: ScottYelich on March 15, 2004, 12:11:44 pm
figured.
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: rikiya on May 28, 2004, 07:33:58 pm
Does anyone really think MS is sweet and nice enough (smart enough) to convert their OS\'s for a single person? I bet you\'d have to pay couple hundred bucks for their so called help for their so called research funds which probably gets payed to the boss and then some geeky person has to do all the work just for a single person to make their OS compatible and they don\'t get extra pay!
Title: Windows Mobile (Pocket PC) OS
Post by: padishah_emperor on May 29, 2004, 01:43:40 am
..sobs..