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Hello all,
as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/Versioning.txt) for details.
You can find snapshots for Akita, Spitz and Collie here:
EDIT:http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/)
and for Poodle here:
http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/)
Known Problems so far:
All devices:
- none at this time
SL-C3x00 + SL-C1000 aka Spitz & Akita:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )
SL-5500 + SL-5000 aka Collie:
- mplayer fails to start with libmad error
- ipkg.conf points to a missing machine feed
SL-5600 aka Poodle:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- Sound is working but distorted,
- GPE's key-bindings are incomplete
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Hello all,
as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/Versioning.txt) for details.
You can find snapshots for Akita and Spitz here: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/)
Known Problems so far:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )
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More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
all i neeed now is to install kopi
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
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More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
all i neeed now is to install kopi
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144690\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Ah, Opie is acting up
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
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More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
all i neeed now is to install kopiÂ
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
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Ah, Opie is acting up
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
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OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left
THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory
On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)
I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug
Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life
Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
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More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
all i neeed now is to install kopi
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144690\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Ah, Opie is acting up
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
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OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left
THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory
On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)
I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug
Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life
Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
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OE is a buildsystem, not a distribution.
AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
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AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
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The GP is probably not a native english speaker. Different languages use different capitalization rules.
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Maybe not, but he use ADSL service in England and even has England present in location...
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More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
The Daylight Savings Time is Not Set Correctly
(Its Correct For London But is Still GMT)
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
all i neeed now is to install kopiÂ
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144690\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Ah, Opie is acting up
That could be a problem since Opie is unmaintained. I will have a look.
tkc Apps (ie: Sharp-ROM apps) are completely unsupported, sorry.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144775\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
OK I Know about TheTkcStuff Being Unsuppported, I cannot Get The Kompany To Port it to OE It's All thats Stopping Me Going To OE
I have had To Move From The Sharp Rom As I Had No Ram Left
THE SHARP ROM Would Randomly Kill Apps Due to Low Memory
On Hentages rom V1
Running TkcKapital (RSS Size 32MB Ouch )
Kopi 1 YearsWorth Of Appointments & data (RSS Size 20Mb)
PortaBase (It has 2000 Entrys & Took 20 Secs to Load RSS Size 6.2Mb.)
I Installed The Upgrades From The Feed & It Seems To Have Cured The Timezone Bug
Also Why is OE not Using the Flash ERam ?? Using The Hdd Cuts Down on The
Battery Life
Thanks For Any Comments The Rom Seems Good as I Can LoadAllThe Above
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144787\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
OE is a buildsystem, not a distribution.
AnD StOp WiTh ThE ExCeSsIvE CaPiTaLiZaTiOn PlEaSe
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Ouch ... oops point taken & I should have said OZ not OE
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Well, I sat down and checked out Opie on Akita today, so here goes:
More For The List :-
Games Billardz Display is Corrupt
There's no corruption here
Zaurus 3200 display does not rotate automaticaly when the screen is turned
Works fine here
How do I Force a App To Display Rotated & Full Screen ??
No idea.
XMMS screen is tiny (2cm Square) it works though
Known bug and non-trivial to fix.
Can Some Point Me TowardsThe Bugtracker
Here's a URL which lists all bug trackers: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/links/ (http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/links/)
Great rom though, portabase is twice as fast as before
That is good to hear =)
tkckapital works but it needs resize & rotate !!
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Hello all,
as of today, Hentges ROMs will use a different versioning system which is independent from OpenZaurus releases / versions, please read Versioning.txt (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/Versioning.txt) for details.
You can find snapshots for Akita and Spitz here: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061023/)
Known Problems so far:
- The hostap_cs WIFI driver does not survive a suspend / resume cycle
- cat some_soundfile.raw > /dev/dsp does no longer work ( mplayer & friends still produce sound )
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144574\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I just installed the image on my terrier, and am tinkering. I found what I think are too small errors in the package manager feeds list for the spitz roms. All the feeds list 3.5.4.1 except the ./feed/upgrades/machine/spitz & ./feed/machine/spitz. When I browsed the feeds, there appears not to be spitz directories on machine under 3.5.4.2, just 3.5.4.1. So when you run ipkg update, you get a 401 error on these two feeds, and then a follow on error because of this.
I changed the 3.5.4.2 to 3.5.4.1 in the ipkg.conf & no more errors on those two feeds.
Now there is just an error for the oz.henges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.0/upgrades, but I expect that this will remain until that feed gets put up as there appears to be only 3.5.4.1 not 1.0.0 feeds in that directory.
Thanks for your continued great work- I've been excitedly waiting to try your rom on my terrier.
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Coredump,
You once wrote (in the old howtos) a method for running OPIE & GPE at the same time. Unfortunately, when it was transferred to the howtos of the open zaurus forums, it lost all its links so it's quite useless. This, of course, was for folks with older Zs who need to use altboot. I never quite got to that with my Tosa before the battery issue drove me to buy a Terrier. Now I need usable software for it.
I bet it is super easy to get all the files and processes to work together when you have 6 gig of hard disk on a Terrier. Could you reiterate your earlier instructions for this environment?
Thanks.
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I just installed the image on my terrier, and am tinkering. I found what I think are too small errors in the package manager feeds list for the spitz roms. All the feeds list 3.5.4.1 except the ./feed/upgrades/machine/spitz & ./feed/machine/spitz. When I browsed the feeds, there appears not to be spitz directories on machine under 3.5.4.2, just 3.5.4.1. So when you run ipkg update, you get a 401 error on these two feeds, and then a follow on error because of this.
Right, since there will be no 3.5.4.2 for SL-Cxx00, these directories are indeed missing. Thanks for spotting that.
I changed the 3.5.4.2 to 3.5.4.1 in the ipkg.conf & no more errors on those two feeds.
Now there is just an error for the oz.henges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.0/upgrades, but I expect that this will remain until that feed gets put up as there appears to be only 3.5.4.1 not 1.0.0 feeds in that directory.
I'll create empty feed-lists at said URL to remove the error messages.
Thanks for your continued great work- I've been excitedly waiting to try your rom on my terrier.
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You're welomce
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Coredump,
You once wrote (in the old howtos) a method for running OPIE & GPE at the same time. Unfortunately, when it was transferred to the howtos of the open zaurus forums, it lost all its links so it's quite useless. This, of course, was for folks with older Zs who need to use altboot. I never quite got to that with my Tosa before the battery issue drove me to buy a Terrier. Now I need usable software for it.
I bet it is super easy to get all the files and processes to work together when you have 6 gig of hard disk on a Terrier. Could you reiterate your earlier instructions for this environment?
Thanks.
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Will have a look when I get home.
Edit: Please post the URL of the HowTo
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This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE)
It works as I've used it.
Cheers
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A new snapshot for SL-Cxx00 is online: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061027/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061027/)
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This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE)
It works as I've used it.
Cheers
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I still wonder where that 'by koen' comes from. I only ran Opie on my h3870 2 years ago for like 2 days, just to check it it boots.
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This one was written by koen: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE (http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE)
It works as I've used it.
Cheers
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I still wonder where that 'by koen' comes from. I only ran Opie on my h3870 2 years ago for like 2 days, just to check it it boots.
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I was kinda wondering myself why "Mr. GPE" would write a Opie guide
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re XMMS too small bug:
Does this mean that the 'Double Size' option doesn't work? What happened there then as I remember someone saying they got it to work, I think it was XorA, but I can't remember his solution as I had already uninstalled OZ when they worked it out. Are there no other graphical music (ogg and MP3) players in the OZ feed?
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
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re XMMS too small bug:
Does this mean that the 'Double Size' option doesn't work? What happened there then as I remember someone saying they got it to work, I think it was XorA, but I can't remember his solution as I had already uninstalled OZ when they worked it out.
Never heard of it.
Are there no other graphical music (ogg and MP3) players in the OZ feed?
Not to my knowledge but I could be wrong.
Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
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There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
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Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145009\")
There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
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Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?
[a href=\"http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/base/gpe-conf/modules/usb.c?rev=8595&root=gpe&sortby=rev&view=auto]http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto[/url]
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Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145009\")
There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
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Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?
[a href=\"http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/base/gpe-conf/modules/usb.c?rev=8595&root=gpe&sortby=rev&view=auto]http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto[/url]
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Last time I checked the gpe-conf applet it wasn't ported to 2.6 either
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Does Hentges for spitz come with an app that lets you pick which card or partition you want your PC to use as a USB storage device?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145009\")
There was a script for kernel 2.4 to o that. However, it was never ported to kernel 2.6
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Apart from it being in gpe-conf by default?
[a href=\"http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/base/gpe-conf/modules/usb.c?rev=8595&root=gpe&sortby=rev&view=auto]http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scms...y=rev&view=auto[/url]
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Last time I checked the gpe-conf applet it wasn't ported to 2.6 either
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ehm... from the above link:
/*
ToDo
- Support for kernel 2.4?
- Support for USB host?
- file requestor
- no instant apply
*/
The applet is actually 2.6 only.
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The applet is actually 2.6 only.
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Either that is a completely new applet or it was 2.4-only in the past.
The 2.4-only thing was confirmed by a dev in #gpe at the time.
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The applet is actually 2.6 only.
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Either that is a completely new applet or it was 2.4-only in the past.
The 2.4-only thing was confirmed by a dev in #gpe at the time.
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You're mixing up 'pcmcia' and 'usb'. pH5, who wrote that applet never had a 2.4 device
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I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.
If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
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Are there going to be poodle images? I had Opie working pretty well on my poodle with the Hentges ROM of 3.5.4.2-rc2, I flashed GPE to test it and now I want to go back, but I cannot find images to do that.
Too bad Opie is unmaintained I'd like to use GPE but it doesn't seem ready for prime time yet.
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Are there going to be poodle images? I had Opie working pretty well on my poodle with the Hentges ROM of 3.5.4.2-rc2, I flashed GPE to test it and now I want to go back, but I cannot find images to do that.
Too bad Opie is unmaintained I'd like to use GPE but it doesn't seem ready for prime time yet.
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Poodle will be part of the final release. I don't have any ETA on first images tho.
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I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.
If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
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I am excited that you are doing the Collie images. Perhaps soon I can switch back to OZ once and for all and trash my Cacko arrangement. I'm tired of having a machine that is so slow that my wife teases me that using paper and pencil is more efficient.
Chris--
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I'm preparing Colle images right now.
Also, I'll run first tests with my "upgrade" feed.
If everything goes well, users should be able to upgrade their installation with "ipkg upgrade" to a new release.
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I am excited that you are doing the Collie images. Perhaps soon I can switch back to OZ once and for all and trash my Cacko arrangement. I'm tired of having a machine that is so slow that my wife teases me that using paper and pencil is more efficient.
Chris--
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Well, IMO paper & pencil are indeed usually faster than a PDA for many things. But where's the fun in that?
Akita, Spitz and Collie images are uploading. Also a first true "hentges feed" (~200Mb) is uploading and should be available in 6-7hrs.
If everything goes as planned, users can upgrade their release w/ ipkg. Flashing will be mostly optional (tho might still be required for not-so-simple hacks (*cough* libsdl *cough*) and kernel upgrades)
The hentges feed consists of one common feed (type: *_arm.ipk) for all machines
and a machine-specific feed (*_${MACHINE}.ipk). In theory these feeds are an exact mirror of my feed@home from which the images are built.
Don't get me wrong: the hentges feed will be for OS-upgrades only! You still need the (pre-configured) OZ feeds to install new apps.
If this works out, you'll see far more upgrades than before since I won't have to upload ~1Gb of data for every release anymore
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New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/). There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
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New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/). There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
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Ah the joys of error-proofing. While the hotfix from above works nicely once installed, it does depend on a certain feed layout. Currently it prevents me from rsyncing the live-feed with my feed @ home
I'll write a little script called "dist-upgrade" which only job it will be to upgrade the installation. It will be completely independent of /etc/ipkg.conf (ie: It will even work on badly damaged systems), it will be able to install ipkg-independent "hotfixes" and it will be hardened against most types of failure.
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New images for SL-Cxx00 and Collie are online (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061030/). There has been a typo in ipkg.conf (sigh), please
ipkg update / ipkg upgrade to install a hotfix.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145175\")
Ah the joys of error-proofing. While the hotfix from above works nicely once installed, it does depend on a certain feed layout. Currently it prevents me from rsyncing the live-feed with my feed @ home
I'll write a little script called "dist-upgrade" which only job it will be to upgrade the installation. It will be completely independent of /etc/ipkg.conf (ie: It will even work on badly damaged systems), it will be able to install ipkg-independent "hotfixes" and it will be hardened against most types of failure.
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Please, everyone using the images from above download and install the dist-upgrade package for your machine:
EDIT: Updated packages:
[a href=\"http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/machine-upgrades/akita/dist-upgrade_0.0.2-r0_akita.ipk]http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/....2-r0_akita.ipk[/url]
http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/....2-r0_spitz.ipk (http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/machine-upgrades/spitz/dist-upgrade_0.0.2-r0_spitz.ipk)
http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/...2-r0_collie.ipk (http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/machine-upgrades/collie/dist-upgrade_0.0.2-r0_collie.ipk)
You can then upgrade your installation to 1.0.0-wip-20061101 by running "dist-upgrade" in a console.
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Coredump
I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.
Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.
Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?
samac
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Coredump
I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.
Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.
Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?
samac
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The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2
I am going to try the new hentges as soon as I get everything backed up.
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Coredump
I am a little confused. Before dist-upgrade feeds existed for .../1.0.x/common and machine upgrades, after dist upgrade they didn't.
Also .../3.5.4.1/feed/machine/collie does not exist.
Could you list the feeds that are relevant for each machine, are we meant to use the ../1.0.x/ or not?
samac
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The hentges feeds are for distribution upgrades only. The "dist-upgrade" tool will always use the correct feeds, independent of ipkg.conf.
Adding the hentges feeds to ipkg.conf would be a waste of ressources (since ipkg is slow enough already)
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The hentges feeds are for distribution upgrades only. The "dist-upgrade" tool will always use the correct feeds, independent of ipkg.conf.
Adding the hentges feeds to ipkg.conf would be a waste of ressources (since ipkg is slow enough already)
OK that makes sense.
Thanks
Samac
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The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=145364\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Collie latest is 3.5.4
clamshells latest is 3.5.4.1
poodle/tosa latest is 3.5.4.2
For collie I suggest using hentges version of OZ.
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The clamshell models have OZ 3.5.4.1, the other older models have OZ 3.5.4.2[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=145364\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Collie latest is 3.5.4
clamshells latest is 3.5.4.1
poodle/tosa latest is 3.5.4.2
For collie I suggest using hentges version of OZ.
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Maybe we should do a 3.5.5 for all devices? That way we don't have some devices bit-rotting away.
OTOH I belive that staged releases (3.5.4 = Collie, 3.5.4.1 = clamshells etc) are a very developer friendly way of doing things. One can sit down and concentrate on a specific model / series and make it release-ready, ignoring any other device completly.
The current problem I see is that
a) Only very few people are actively working on OpenZaurus directly
b ) Of those that do work on OZ, most would be happy to let SL-5x00 (ie: Collie and Poodle) die a silent death.
The a) part could only be helped by motivated and knowledgeable Linux users joining the project (and yes, installing and using OE is required)
The b ) part is a little bit more difficult.
Devs usually avoid SL-5x00 like the plaque because:
- The small rootfs (15-18Mb) make them a PITA to work with
- The screen is sub-standard and hard to read compared to the clamshells
- The screen is only QVGA (320x240)
- The keyboard is pretty bad compared to the clamshells
So on one hand we have many users still owning and using these devices, but OTOH we have very few devs that care about them.
Over the next few days, I'll convert Poodle to an SD-only rootfs. And with SD-only I mean SD-only. Hentges will no longer offer flash installations!. Poodles will get a tweaked kernel that boots the SD directly, and a tuned updater.sh which installs rootfs tarballs onto any inserted SD card (just like the spitz installer does for the MicroDrive).
If the above works out, it will make dev work a lot easier with Poodle since we no longer need to care about not-filling up the rootfs.
Why Poodle and not Collie? Simple: because Poodle is already running kernel 2.6.
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Here's a shot of the new updater.sh I wrote for Poodle:
[img]http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Poodle/Misc/updater-reloaded.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
This version allows for root-on-sd which the old one could not handle.
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The new Poodle SD images are online:
http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/ (http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061104/)
The rootfs is installed onto the first partition of your SD card. You may repartition the card if you have a lot of space but partition one should not be smaller than 150Mb
Installation Instructions:
- Download a rootfs.tar.gz from the "tarballs" directory and rename it to sdimage1.tgz
- Download the kernel and rename it to zImage.bin (flashing the kernel is required)
- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), gnu-tar , zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card
- Start the flashing process as usual.
Please keep in mind:
- updater.sh was written from scratch and may contain bugs. Please post about any problems during instalation.
- updater.sh (and thus the sdimage installer) runs under an ancient SHARP kernel 2.4. This kernel contains
a patch to disallow "async" SD/MMC access. Because of this the installation may take longer than 30 minutes! There is nothing I can do about this (short of replacing the updater mini-OS)
You may extract the rootfs tarball on partition one of your SD card manually (as root!) which can be a lot faster (depends on your distribution)
- The current GPE image needs some more love. It is basically a copy of the "spitz" clamshell GPE image (containing Firefox, xscreensaver etc). This was not intended and will be fixed eventually.
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- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card
and gnu-tar?
d/l'ing now
Thanks, CoreDump
Greg
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- Copy the new updater.sh (an older one won't work!), zImage.bin and sdimage1.tgz to a CF card
and gnu-tar?
d/l'ing now
Thanks, CoreDump
Greg
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Indeed Fixed!
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I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
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Hi CoreDump,
Thanks for the work on Poodle. I flashed this new image and I'm sure it works fine, but on first boot, I get the pop up asking me what I want to do with the detected SD card, but it is too big for the screen and is immovible. I can't seem to use the arrow keys or tab to get to the "OK" button to make it go away. Any ideas?
Thanks,
ennui719
edit: Oh I see you are already on this... see post https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910)
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I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.
1. The security module kept asking for the pin number whilst the upgrade was trying to calibrate, I eventually had to ssh in from my main box, remove security and reboot the collie.
2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.
samac
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I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.
1. The security module kept asking for the pin number whilst the upgrade was trying to calibrate, I eventually had to ssh in from my main box, remove security and reboot the collie.
I should have been more clear. By "console" I meant the VT (ie: exit Opie / GPE)
2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.
samac
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Interesting. Sounds like some hentges-* packages do not like beeing reinstalled
Thanks for spotting it, I'll have a look.
Could you give me an example which packages were re-installed after you had removed them?
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Hi CoreDump,
Thanks for the work on Poodle. I flashed this new image and I'm sure it works fine, but on first boot, I get the pop up asking me what I want to do with the detected SD card, but it is too big for the screen and is immovible. I can't seem to use the arrow keys or tab to get to the "OK" button to make it go away. Any ideas?
Thanks,
ennui719
edit: Oh I see you are already on this... see post https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910)
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Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me [span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']NUTS[/span].
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Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me [span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']NUTS[/span].
CoreDump
The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz
Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.
Thanks
Greg
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Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me [span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']NUTS[/span].
CoreDump
The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz
Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.
Thanks
Greg
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Heh good one
That however fails as soon as the user has a second partition on that card (which will be mounted as /media/card and OF COURSE trigger this blasted bug)
The worst part is that Hentges already had a work-around for this idiocy in place, which somehow stopped working about a year ago *sigh*.
I guess I'll use some udev magic to install ".opiestorage.cf" where needed.
EDIT:
By the way, the next upgrade will pull in a working auto-fsck of the rootfs on boot for Poodle and Spitz.
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Well, what can I say. This bug in Opie is driving me [span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']NUTS[/span].
CoreDump
The simple hack I used was to include a copy of '.opiestorage.cf' in your hentges-xxx.rootfs.tar.gz
Your dist-upgrade works very well for me.
Thanks
Greg
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Heh good one
That however fails as soon as the user has a second partition on that card (which will be mounted as /media/card and OF COURSE trigger this blasted bug)
The worst part is that Hentges already had a work-around for this idiocy in place, which somehow stopped working about a year ago *sigh*
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Can you set up opie to not build medium-mount? As far as I can see it's used with the Doc Tab, which itself is not all that usefull....
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Can you set up opie to not build medium-mount? As far as I can see it's used with the Doc Tab, which itself is not all that usefull....
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I wonder if that's possible w/o breaking to much stuff? I'll have a look
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2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.
Samac
Interesting. Sounds like some hentges-* packages do not like beeing reinstalled biggrin.gif
Thanks for spotting it, I'll have a look.
Could you give me an example which packages were re-installed after you had removed them?
PLEASE IGNORE THE BIT ABOUT PACKAGES. I speak much rubbish!!!! The bit about the decor is still OK.
Sorry
Samac
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PLEASE IGNORE THE BIT ABOUT PACKAGES. I speak much rubbish!!!! The bit about the decor is still OK.
Sorry
Samac
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No worry, these packages were never intended to be re-installed so some breakage was to be expected.
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For future reference: If you get hit by the medium-mount dialog bug do the following:
- Reset the machine
- Do not let the Opie GUI start but press a button during the 5 second window
- Login as "root" (no password)
- Enter "ipkg remove opie-mediummount" and hit return
- Launch Opie with "/etc/init.d/opie start"
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2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.
Samac
Interesting. Sounds like some hentges-* packages do not like beeing reinstalled biggrin.gif
Thanks for spotting it, I'll have a look.
Could you give me an example which packages were re-installed after you had removed them?
PLEASE IGNORE THE BIT ABOUT PACKAGES. I speak much rubbish!!!! The bit about the decor is still OK.
Sorry
Samac
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I encountered the decor issue. I found that my external root home was no longer mounted as /home/root.
Got it back through an /etc/.<some hentges file> edition before some init script rerun. Can't remember which file, but I'm giving a clue.
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I encountered the decor issue. I found that my external root home was no longer mounted as /home/root.
Got it back through an /etc/.<some hentges file> edition before some init script rerun. Can't remember which file, but I'm giving a clue.
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The decor issue is planned for the next upgrade
I'll also look at the extroot script.
FWIW, /media/root is beeing converted to /media/home/root. /media/home/ is then mounted as /home
Fresh images for all machines [a href=\"http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hentges-ROM/1.0.0/20061108/]are online[/url].
The images contain all updates from the hentges feeds. Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I've also pushed a new upgrade into the feeds fxing the following bugs:
- altboots no longer prints modprobe / insmod messages on some machines
- The rootfs partition on Poodle and Collie is now automatcally fsck'ed on boot
- The root-partition on Poodle is no longer mounted twice
- The medium-mount bug of Opie should be history (thanks to hvontres)
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Hello all,
I am having an issue flashing to the latest.
I have a Poodle PXA-250.
When I flash with the new kernel and put an opie-image-rootfs.bin in /media/card/boot-images/, it tells me that it flashes the kernel and that it cannot find a rootfs, "please reset".
When I reset it, it get a kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.
What have I done wrong?
Thanks,
Chuck
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Hello all,
I am having an issue flashing to the latest.
I have a Poodle PXA-250.
When I flash with the new kernel and put an opie-image-rootfs.bin in /media/card/boot-images/, it tells me that it flashes the kernel and that it cannot find a rootfs, "please reset".
When I reset it, it get a kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.
What have I done wrong?
Thanks,
Chuck
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is your SD card formated as ext2?
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Hello all,
I am having an issue flashing to the latest.
I have a Poodle PXA-250.
When I flash with the new kernel and put an opie-image-rootfs.bin in /media/card/boot-images/, it tells me that it flashes the kernel and that it cannot find a rootfs, "please reset".
When I reset it, it get a kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.
What have I done wrong?
Thanks,
Chuck
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is your SD card formated as ext2?
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It is formatted as ext2.
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Hello all,
I am having an issue flashing to the latest.
I have a Poodle PXA-250.
When I flash with the new kernel and put an opie-image-rootfs.bin in /media/card/boot-images/, it tells me that it flashes the kernel and that it cannot find a rootfs, "please reset".
When I reset it, it get a kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.
What have I done wrong?
Thanks,
Chuck
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is your SD card formated as ext2?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=145823\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
It is formatted as ext2.
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Well, I did not read all the posts and found this. [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21910[/url]
which had installation instuctions, which I am doing.
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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Well, that stinks
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Has there been any improvements to altboot? ie. is kexec integrated and allows booting to different (older) kernel?
I want to completely reflash my C3000 and plan to put OZ bootstrap onto it (the first partition of the microdrive) as a pseudo bootloader which then boots loop images of Hentges GPE and Hentges OPIE from the second or third partition on the microdrive. In addition, I also want to boot pdaXrom beta4/r121 from a CF card which shouldn't be a problem since the kernel is similar in this release. However, the tricky bit is that I also want to boot the older 2.4 based version of pdaXrom as well. How can this be achieved? The C3000 version of pdaXrom was using a borrowed pivot boot from OZ so I am hoping that altboot and kexec can be used to achieve something similar
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Has there been any improvements to altboot?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145894\")
Sure, just search for it: [a href=\"http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/altboot/]http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/d...iption/altboot/[/url]
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Has there been any improvements to altboot? ie. is kexec integrated and allows booting to different (older) kernel?
I want to completely reflash my C3000 and plan to put OZ bootstrap onto it (the first partition of the microdrive) as a pseudo bootloader which then boots loop images of Hentges GPE and Hentges OPIE from the second or third partition on the microdrive. In addition, I also want to boot pdaXrom beta4/r121 from a CF card which shouldn't be a problem since the kernel is similar in this release. However, the tricky bit is that I also want to boot the older 2.4 based version of pdaXrom as well. How can this be achieved? The C3000 version of pdaXrom was using a borrowed pivot boot from OZ so I am hoping that altboot and kexec can be used to achieve something similar
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AFAIK altboot does not support multiple partitions on a MD out of the box.
Also kexec support is less than ideal currently.
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Has there been any improvements to altboot?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=145894\")
Sure, just search for it: [a href=\"http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/altboot/]http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/d...iption/altboot/[/url]
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Wow, that's one nice link for me to bookmark, thanks!
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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You have a new personal message.
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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You have a new personal message.
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I don't see the medium-mount bug on my Poodle with the latest snapshot. Thanks coredump!
One question. opie-qss is installed, but still no sound. Do I have to do something with alsa? What packages do I need and what is the procedure?
Thanks.
-Phil
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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You have a new personal message.
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I don't see the medium-mount bug on my Poodle with the latest snapshot. Thanks coredump!
One question. opie-qss is installed, but still no sound. Do I have to do something with alsa? What packages do I need and what is the procedure?
Thanks.
-Phil
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Sound worked out of the box when I last tried a clean image
Please check if
cat /usr/share/sounds/beep.raw and mplayer /usr/share/sounds/gaim/$SOME_WAVE_FILE produce sound on your System.
If not you may need to play with "alsamixer".
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Also users running into Opies cursed medium-mount bug should be happy to hear that this bug should no longer occur with the new images.
EDIT: Well, at least on Poodle it should be gone...
I'm sorry to have to tell you that the damn bug is still there... and 'ipkg remove opie-mediummount' shows 'no package found nothing to do'
So I will use my old hack again.
Thanks
Greg
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You have a new personal message.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=145902\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I don't see the medium-mount bug on my Poodle with the latest snapshot. Thanks coredump!
One question. opie-qss is installed, but still no sound. Do I have to do something with alsa? What packages do I need and what is the procedure?
Thanks.
-Phil
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Sound worked out of the box when I last tried a clean image
Please check if
cat /usr/share/sounds/beep.raw and mplayer /usr/share/sounds/gaim/$SOME_WAVE_FILE produce sound on your System.
If not you may need to play with "alsamixer".
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No sound from mplayer or catting to /dev/audio. "Played" with alsamixer still no sound. Tried both speaker and headphones
-Phil
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I don't see the medium-mount bug on my Poodle with the latest snapshot.
@phisch
Did you answer [y] to format the SD when using the new updater.sh? I'm trying to understand why it would work for some and not others?
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I don't see the medium-mount bug on my Poodle with the latest snapshot.
@phisch
Did you answer [y] to format the SD when using the new updater.sh? I'm trying to understand why it would work for some and not others?
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Yes I did. No partitions, ext2.
-Phil
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I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.
1. The security module kept asking for the pin number whilst the upgrade was trying to calibrate, I eventually had to ssh in from my main box, remove security and reboot the collie.
I should have been more clear. By "console" I meant the VT (ie: exit Opie / GPE)
2. dist-upgrade does not respect user alterations, it re-installed packages that I had removed, and it changed my decorative settings back to default.
samac
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Interesting. Sounds like some hentges-* packages do not like beeing reinstalled
Thanks for spotting it, I'll have a look.
Could you give me an example which packages were re-installed after you had removed them?
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I had a look today at the offending packages. It only re-installs the Opie defaults if it does not find an existing Opie configuration (no re-install if ~/Settings/qpe.conf exists)
I'm kinda clueless how to narrow the bug down. Any ideas?
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Thanks CoreDump for all your hard work on this. I just installed latest GPE WIP for Spitz on my "new" 3200. It looks great but, I'm having some trouble with the whole safely removing CF and SD cards.
I was expecting some GUI tool to handle this but, from what I have read on the forums is that there is no reliably running tool for this. The Matchbox Cards Applet that I installed just disappears from the taskbar when I tap on it.
I then tried to do it from the terminal but I can't figure it out. Cardctl and pccardctl are nowhere to be found. I guess they aren't part of the 2.6 kernel. So what does one do to safely eject them? Is there anything I need to type in terminal to kill my wifi connection before I type the eject sequence for the CF card?
Sorry for the newbie questions. I'm new to Linux and my search mojo for these forums, google, the OpenZaurus FAQ and HowTos have failed me so far.
Thanks again.
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Thanks CoreDump for all your hard work on this. I just installed latest GPE WIP for Spitz on my "new" 3200. It looks great but, I'm having some trouble with the whole safely removing CF and SD cards.
I was expecting some GUI tool to handle this but, from what I have read on the forums is that there is no reliably running tool for this. The Matchbox Cards Applet that I installed just disappears from the taskbar when I tap on it.
To my knowledge there is no (working) GUI app for ejecting SD / CF cardfs for GPE.
I then tried to do it from the terminal but I can't figure it out. Cardctl and pccardctl are nowhere to be found. I guess they aren't part of the 2.6 kernel. So what does one do to safely eject them? Is there anything I need to type in terminal to kill my wifi connection before I type the eject sequence for the CF card?
Pulling a WIFI card w/o ejecting it is fine, but CF and SD/MMC storage cards should be umounted first (umount /media/card umount /media/cf)
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I am having trouble (http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/screenshots/img_1518.jpg) with the Hentges WIP Opie images for poodle. The link above is what shows up after bootup. Ideas?
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I am having trouble (http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/screenshots/img_1518.jpg) with the Hentges WIP Opie images for poodle. The link above is what shows up after bootup. Ideas?
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Does your SD card have more than one partition? I tried the latest opie this weekend and it did not have that problem. I just cleared my ext2 formated card and untarred the image in my cardreader.
Also, I figured out that you can put the new kernel on the sd card as well. That way I was able to use kexec to test the root-on-sd setup without having to mess with my flash install.
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Thanks CoreDump for all your hard work on this. I just installed latest GPE WIP for Spitz on my "new" 3200. It looks great but, I'm having some trouble with the whole safely removing CF and SD cards.Â
I was expecting some GUI tool to handle this but, from what I have read on the forums is that there is no reliably running tool for this. The Matchbox Cards Applet that I installed just disappears from the taskbar when I tap on it.Â
To my knowledge there is no (working) GUI app for ejecting SD / CF cardfs for GPE.
I then tried to do it from the terminal but I can't figure it out. Cardctl and pccardctl are nowhere to be found. I guess they aren't part of the 2.6 kernel. So what does one do to safely eject them? Is there anything I need to type in terminal to kill my wifi connection before I type the eject sequence for the CF card?
Pulling a WIFI card w/o ejecting it is fine, but CF and SD/MMC storage cards should be umounted first (umount /media/card umount /media/cf)
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Thanks CoreDump for the quick response. Wow! That's all I needed? It's too simple. Thanks again for your help.
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Ah. I see why dist-upgrade was slightly problematic for me:
I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.
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I should have been more clear. By "console" I meant the VT (ie: exit Opie / GPE)
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How, exactly, do I exit Opie or GPE to a virtual terminal?
First, I tried getting in from altboot. Option 7, to run /bin/sh sounded useful, but didn't help.
From GPE,
- Logging out just returns me to the graphical logon screen
- Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, sure enough, but then it is automatically restarted moments later
- I can reboot easily enough with 'shutdown -r now', but that doesn't do it
- I found this year-old thread: [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16075&view=findpost&p=103400]What is the OZ boot process?[/url]. Is that explanation the easiest way to exit GPE?
From Opie,
Settings | Shutdown lets me:
- Shutdown
- Restart Opie
- Reboot
- Terminate Opie
All do as they say, and the first three weren't helpful. Choosing 'Terminate Opie' took me back to a console screen, but I couldn't provide any input or log on.
From the 'Start' Menu, there is a 'Terminal' option, which lets you select from 9 terminals. (Huh. What do you know. Ctrl-Alt-[number] does work to switch, too. I never could figure out how to get back before.) I can switch terminals all right, but I still can't provide input or log in.
Thanks for humouring me,
Armagon
PS. Wait a second. Altboot option #2 is "Don't launch GUI". That gets me into a terminal for my flashed ROM -- is there any way to do it for an altbooted ROM?
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Ah. I see why dist-upgrade was slightly problematic for me:
I've updated the distro feeds, please run "dist-upgrade" from the console.
dist-upgrade works great, but I had a couple of problems.
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I should have been more clear. By "console" I meant the VT (ie: exit Opie / GPE)
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How, exactly, do I exit Opie or GPE to a virtual terminal?
Good point.
First, I tried getting in from altboot. Option 7, to run /bin/sh sounded useful, but didn't help.
From GPE,
- Logging out just returns me to the graphical logon screen
- Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, sure enough, but then it is automatically restarted moments later
If you kill it >3 times, it will stay down
- I can reboot easily enough with 'shutdown -r now', but that doesn't do it
- I found this year-old thread: [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16075&view=findpost&p=103400]What is the OZ boot process?[/url]. Is that explanation the easiest way to exit GPE?
The easiest way is to change to the VT, then stop the X server:
- chvt 1
- login as "root" ( no p/w )
- /etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop
From Opie,
Settings | Shutdown lets me:
- Shutdown
- Restart Opie
- Reboot
- Terminate Opie
All do as they say, and the first three weren't helpful. Choosing 'Terminate Opie' took me back to a console screen, but I couldn't provide any input or log on.
From the 'Start' Menu, there is a 'Terminal' option, which lets you select from 9 terminals. (Huh. What do you know. Ctrl-Alt-[number] does work to switch, too. I never could figure out how to get back before.) I can switch terminals all right, but I still can't provide input or log in.
I won't comment on Opies bugs (they won't get fixed anyway) but here goes:
- chvt 1
- login as "root" ( no p/w )
- /etc/init.d/opie stop
Thanks for humouring me,
Armagon
PS. Wait a second. Altboot option #2 is "Don't launch GUI". That gets me into a terminal for my flashed ROM -- is there any way to do it for an altbooted ROM?
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Not easily, no.
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How, exactly, do I exit Opie or GPE to a virtual terminal?
Good point.
First, I tried getting in from altboot. Option 7, to run /bin/sh sounded useful, but didn't help.
From GPE,
- Logging out just returns me to the graphical logon screen
- Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, sure enough, but then it is automatically restarted moments later
If you kill it >3 times, it will stay down
LOL. Oh, I needed that laugh.
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I won't comment on Opies bugs (they won't get fixed anyway) but here goes:
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Yes; I read in this thread that Opie is no longer maintained. What happened?
Your instructions work great; thanks, CoreDump. I wonder ... am I able to shut down Opie, and then start GPE (or vice versa) using a similar command, but with a 'start' instead of 'stop'? It might be nifty to have them both installed without having to use altboot to go from one to the other.
Thanks,
Armagon
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How, exactly, do I exit Opie or GPE to a virtual terminal?
Good point.
First, I tried getting in from altboot. Option 7, to run /bin/sh sounded useful, but didn't help.
From GPE,
- Logging out just returns me to the graphical logon screen
- Hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, sure enough, but then it is automatically restarted moments later
If you kill it >3 times, it will stay down
LOL. Oh, I needed that laugh.
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I won't comment on Opies bugs (they won't get fixed anyway) but here goes:
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Yes; I read in this thread that Opie is no longer maintained. What happened?
Well, no one is interested in actively maintaining Opie these days. The reasons are manifold
Your instructions work great; thanks, CoreDump. I wonder ... am I able to shut down Opie, and then start GPE (or vice versa) using a similar command, but with a 'start' instead of 'stop'?
/etc/init.d/opie start
and
/etc/init.d/gpe-dm start
start opie and GPE up again
It might be nifty to have them both installed without having to use altboot to go from one to the other.
Thanks,
Armagon
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It is possible, yes but not really a useable solution for most folks.
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Is it possible to sync to Outlook with GPE? I can do it through qtopia desktop with Opie but When I tried to do it with GPE it doesn't work. I have a good connection and I can ping the Z but Qtopia desktop doesn't connect under GPE. I ask because syncing is somewhat important to me and it was mentioned that Opie is not being maintained anymore. I have a Poodle pxa255.
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Is it possible to sync to Outlook with GPE? I can do it through qtopia desktop with Opie but When I tried to do it with GPE it doesn't work. I have a good connection and I can ping the Z but Qtopia desktop doesn't connect under GPE. I ask because syncing is somewhat important to me and it was mentioned that Opie is not being maintained anymore. I have a Poodle pxa255.
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Qtopia desktop won't ever work with GPE. I don't use syncing myself so I have no idea if / how you can sync GPE w/ Lookout.
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- fixed a bug with dist-upgrade on machines where CardFS is used (Courtesy elhennig@z-portal)
- Many improvements to dist-uprade, including support for a testing feed
- Fixed initial asound.state for Poodle (sound should now work out of the box / after a reboot on upgrades now)
- Added a few more work-arounds for this god damn Opie medium-mount bug
Poodle Users Please Note:
- You should reboot the device after the upgrade
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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Is it possible to sync to Outlook with GPE? I can do it through qtopia desktop with Opie but When I tried to do it with GPE it doesn't work. I have a good connection and I can ping the Z but Qtopia desktop doesn't connect under GPE. I ask because syncing is somewhat important to me and it was mentioned that Opie is not being maintained anymore. I have a Poodle pxa255.
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Qtopia desktop won't ever work with GPE. I don't use syncing myself so I have no idea if / how you can sync GPE w/ Lookout.
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Do you use the Z at all for PIM apps? If so how do you avoid have to renter everything twice on a desktop and then on the Z? Without calendar functionality and address book functionality my poodle is of limited utility. Also I can't get past the Opie media mount bug I tried the the step you wrote; before going to the console and entering ipkg remove mediummount but it just comes back and says that there is nothing to do. Also everytime I try and boot it goes to rootfs configuration and it wants to fsck the SD card but it says that it is mounted and gives a warning. Is this normal? And it asks if I want move the home directory to the sd card when I say yes or no it comes back and says "cannot create /media/card/etc/ipkg.conf: Read only file system." My sd card is a kingston 1 gig, 1 big partition formatted ext2. I have checked the lock on the SD card and it is unlocked. Danke.
BTW There was a question before about a kernel panic after flashing. Mine did that too at first and what I noticed was that I had to change the permissions on gnu-tar and reflash. The permissions were only read write for everyone no execute. I changed and it flashed fine and then booted. A tell tale sign that this is the problem is that flashing goes real quick and it tells you that gnu-tar could not be accessed.
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- fixed a bug with dist-upgrade on machines where CardFS is used (Courtesy elhennig@z-portal)
- Many improvements to dist-uprade, including support for a testing feed
- Fixed initial asound.state for Poodle (sound should now work out of the box / after a reboot on upgrades now)
- Added a few more work-arounds for this god damn Opie medium-mount bug
Poodle Users Please Note:
- You should reboot the device after the upgrade
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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Hi CoreDump
I rebooted and selected no gui from altboot.
I ran dist-upgrade
First it tells me thatit is using the cached copy from the last update and that fails when updating the package lists.
When I run it again it downloads feed data, tells me to press enter, and then says there is nothing to be done, is this correct?
PROBLEM SOLVED
For some reason my /etc/resolv.conf had vanished. I made a new one then re-installed opie-vtapplet, then tried again from the vtapplet, and it worked.
PROBLEM SOLVED
Samac
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CoreDump
The dist-upgrade worked, but with the following two problems.
System was confused and required a reboot.
/etc/resolv.conf went walkabout again.
Samac
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Do you use the Z at all for PIM apps? If so how do you avoid have to renter everything twice on a desktop and then on the Z? Without calendar functionality and address book functionality my poodle is of limited utility.
I use my mobile for PIM
Also I can't get past the Opie media mount bug I tried the the step you wrote; before going to the console and entering ipkg remove mediummount but it just comes back and says that there is nothing to do.
Right, because I have already removed it from recent images. Not that it helped a damn bit
Also everytime I try and boot it goes to rootfs configuration and it wants to fsck the SD card but it says that it is mounted and gives a warning. Is this normal?
You are hitting a bug which I thought already fixed.... Will have a look.
And it asks if I want move the home directory to the sd card when I say yes or no it comes back and says "cannot create /media/card/etc/ipkg.conf: Read only file system."
Could you post the output of "mount" when that happens? Sounds like the auto-mounter is going nuts.
My sd card is a kingston 1 gig, 1 big partition formatted ext2. I have checked the lock on the SD card and it is unlocked. Danke.
BTW There was a question before about a kernel panic after flashing. Mine did that too at first and what I noticed was that I had to change the permissions on gnu-tar and reflash. The permissions were only read write for everyone no execute. I changed and it flashed fine and then booted. A tell tale sign that this is the problem is that flashing goes real quick and it tells you that gnu-tar could not be accessed.
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Tell-tale indeed. I usually forget that most folks do not know (or care) how the image is flashed (or more correct: extracted on Poodle). I will make the error-message more clear
Also new versions of updater.sh will auto-chmod gnu-tar if needed.
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Hi CoreDump
I rebooted and selected no gui from altboot.
I ran dist-upgrade
First it tells me thatit is using the cached copy from the last update and that fails when updating the package lists.
When I run it again it downloads feed data, tells me to press enter, and then says there is nothing to be done, is this correct?
PROBLEM SOLVED
For some reason my /etc/resolv.conf had vanished. I made a new one then re-installed opie-vtapplet, then tried again from the vtapplet, and it worked.
PROBLEM SOLVED
Samac
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Current version of dist-upgrade will verify a working connection to hentges.net before trying any upgrades. The missing connection was the problem here as every time you run the tool, it tries to download updated feed data. If that fails, it will try the data from the last update, and if that fails, too it will try the data shipped with the ipk on installation (likely to fail).
Since the data changed to adjust for new features, the old (cached) data blew up pretty bad
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You are hitting a bug which I thought already fixed.... Will have a look.
Actually you have uncovered a problem in OEs meta data in regards to udev making multi-machine updates pretty difficult if not impossible.
I'm working on it.
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Ok I got past the medium mount bug by just copying the .opiestorage.cf file off my cf card and copying it to the root of my sd card and then renaming it to .opiestorage.card( I am not sure if renaming the file is necessary as I left a copy of .opiestorage.cf there too)using my card reader and then I rebooted. So I can boot the system now. I have a NAND back that I got off hentges.net when the first poodle 2.6 ROMS became available and I restored the NAND from the service menu (hold D,P and click reset) shoudl I be using this NAND backup with this ROM? And I after I flashed the latest ROM should I have done a format of the user data partition? I tried to do it from the Sharp menu but it just went throught and began to boot. What exactly is NAND(I dont' mean NAND as a word I mean NAND in the context of the Zaurus)? Is it the ROM memory where the root fs is stored on a stock Z? Sorry for all the questions but I haven't been able to find the answers to these on the forums.
Could you post the output of "mount" when that happens? Sounds like the auto-mounter is going nuts.
I can't issue the mount command because I am not at a shell at this point. I will try and clarify. When I reboot first I get the logo and then here is what I see:
Press anykey to launch altboot.........
Booting last selection [3]
Checking filesystem on /dev/mmcblk0p1
/dev/mmcblk0p1 is mounted
WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue? (y/n) no //(I always hit no)
check aborted
Mounting /media/card...ok
Note: No boot -images found in [/media/card/boot-images] //There has to be a boot image some where on the card because I boot off it and have a crapload of space in my root when I goto sysinfo
...rootfs configuration...
This setup lets you reconfigure your new rootfs.
Most probably the rootfs is configured with defaults based on aflashinstallation.
If unsure, go with the defaults by pressing <ENTER>
Usually you /home directory is located on another flash partition.
Do you want to move /home inside the loop image? [N/y] //Here I go with the default of No
Do you want to keep the SD, CF and /home ipkg install targets?[N/y] //again I choose No /etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 822
: cannot create /media/card/etc/ipkg.conf_: Read-only file system
mv: overwrite '/media/card/etc/ipkg.conf'? //here I type yes and then it continues booting into Opie. when I reboot I have to go through the whole Spiel again.
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Ok I got past the medium mount bug by just copying the .opiestorage.cf file off my cf card and copying it to the root of my sd card and then renaming it to .opiestorage.card( I am not sure if renaming the file is necessary as I left a copy of .opiestorage.cf
.cf will work just fine on SD as well
there too)using my card reader and then I rebooted. So I can boot the system now. I have a NAND back that I got off hentges.net when the first poodle 2.6 ROMS became available and I restored the NAND from the service menu (hold D,P and click reset) shoudl I be using this NAND backup with this ROM? And I after I flashed the latest ROM should I have done a format of the user data partition? I tried to do it from the Sharp menu but it just went throught and began to boot. What exactly is NAND(I dont' mean NAND as a word I mean NAND in the context of the Zaurus)? Is it the ROM memory where the root fs is stored on a stock Z? Sorry for all the questions but I haven't been able to find the answers to these on the forums.
The onboard flash storage is called NAND flash on all Z's (yep, there's NOR flash as well just not on a Zaurus AFAIK). A NAND restore restores kernel, root-partition and home-partitions and a few other things.
It will, however not touch the root-partition on SD in any way.
Could you post the output of "mount" when that happens? Sounds like the auto-mounter is going nuts.
I can't issue the mount command because I am not at a shell at this point. I will try and clarify. When I reboot first I get the logo and then here is what I see:
Press anykey to launch altboot.........
Booting last selection [3]
Checking filesystem on /dev/mmcblk0p1
/dev/mmcblk0p1 is mounted
WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue? (y/n) no //(I always hit no)
check aborted
Hit "yes" here. IIRC fsck remounts / read-only if you abort the check
Mounting /media/card...ok
Note: No boot -images found in [/media/card/boot-images] //There has to be a boot image some where on the card because I boot off it and have a crapload of space in my root when I goto sysinfo
This is a message from altboot which shoul not show up at this point.
...rootfs configuration...
This setup lets you reconfigure your new rootfs.
Most probably the rootfs is configured with defaults based on aflashinstallation.
If unsure, go with the defaults by pressing <ENTER>
Usually you /home directory is located on another flash partition.
Do you want to move /home inside the loop image? [N/y] //Here I go with the default of No
Do you want to keep the SD, CF and /home ipkg install targets?[N/y] //again I choose No /etc/altboot-menu/15-bootSD: 822
: cannot create /media/card/etc/ipkg.conf_: Read-only file system
mv: overwrite '/media/card/etc/ipkg.conf'? //here I type yes and then it continues booting into Opie. when I reboot I have to go through the whole Spiel again.
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Do not try to boot from SD with altboot! These new images have a native root-on-SD so chose [1] for normal boot.
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- fixed a bug with dist-upgrade on machines where CardFS is used (Courtesy elhennig@z-portal)
- Many improvements to dist-uprade, including support for a testing feed
- Fixed initial asound.state for Poodle (sound should now work out of the box / after a reboot on upgrades now)
- Added a few more work-arounds for this god damn Opie medium-mount bug
Upgrade worked fine, and now I have sound on my Poodle. BUT ... every time a sound plays I get about 2 seconds of static afterwards. I seem to recall seeing this problem on some forum post before but can't recall the solution. Thanks for the hardwork Coredump!
UPDATE: Fixed using Greg2's asound.state
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- fixed a bug with dist-upgrade on machines where CardFS is used (Courtesy elhennig@z-portal)
- Many improvements to dist-uprade, including support for a testing feed
- Fixed initial asound.state for Poodle (sound should now work out of the box / after a reboot on upgrades now)
- Added a few more work-arounds for this god damn Opie medium-mount bug
Upgrade worked fine, and now I have sound on my Poodle. BUT ... every time a sound plays I get about 2 seconds of static afterwards. I seem to recall seeing this problem on some forum post before but can't recall the solution. Thanks for the hardwork Coredump!
UPDATE: Fixed using Greg2's asound.state
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Ahem, the problem has nothing to do w/ asound.state. The static goes away after a suspend/resume cycle and is back after a reboot.
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- fixed a problem with fsck on boot for Poodle (updated udev)
- altboot on Poodle no longer offers the "Boot from SD" option
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- Fix a wrong hutils.conf on all machines but collie after an upgrade
(SL-Cxx00 users should no longer get cardfs prompts etc)
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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Hi CoreDump
Is there a changelog anywhere?
If it is not too forward, might I suggest that you include a link to dist-upgrade instructions, and changelog in your notification post.
Whilst all experienced zaurus users will be able to figure out how to use dist-upgrade, people new on the scene may have difficulty finding the instructions.
The new update works fine.
Samac
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- Fix a wrong hutils.conf on all machines but collie after an upgrade
(SL-Cxx00 users should no longer get cardfs prompts etc)
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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What happens if you dont exit Opie before running dist upgrade? i forgot to exit but it seemed to run fine. However I am having some strange issues and I am not sure if they are related. I am getting alot of spontaneous reboots. Especially while trying to get my GPS reciever working. Sometimes it just wont boot while the reciever is plugged into to the serial port. Sometimes if I boot it up into Opie and then plug in the GPS reciever it reboots soem times it stays on. If I start gpsd like this "gpsd /dev/ttyS0" gpsd starts fine but a "cat /dev/ttyS0" just spits out garbage and qpegps does not ever pick up a signal. I used this GPS on sharpROM with zroadmap and it worked fine. Also I can't control the volume from xmms-embedded the slider moves but the sound stays at the same level. It does change with alsamixer though. I don't have to do a user memory erase with this latest package right? doesn't the install write over it?
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Hi CoreDump
Is there a changelog anywhere?
The complete changlog is always is the upgrade notification
If it is not too forward, might I suggest that you include a link to dist-upgrade instructions, and changelog in your notification post.
Whilst all experienced zaurus users will be able to figure out how to use dist-upgrade, people new on the scene may have difficulty finding the instructions.
Good idea! Want to write something up?
The new update works fine.
Samac
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Thanks for the feedback!
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- Fix a wrong hutils.conf on all machines but collie after an upgrade
(SL-Cxx00 users should no longer get cardfs prompts etc)
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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What happens if you dont exit Opie before running dist upgrade? i forgot to exit but it seemed to run fine.
Poodle usually dies a horrible death while it goes OOM. RAM aside, applications tend to hate it to be replaced / reinstalled while running (resulting in random freezes, crashes etc).
However I am having some strange issues and I am not sure if they are related. I am getting alot of spontaneous reboots.
Sounds like a hardware or driver problem
Especially while trying to get my GPS reciever working. Sometimes it just wont boot while the reciever is plugged into to the serial port. Sometimes if I boot it up into Opie and then plug in the GPS reciever it reboots soem times it stays on. If I start gpsd like this "gpsd /dev/ttyS0" gpsd starts fine but a "cat /dev/ttyS0" just spits out garbage and qpegps does not ever pick up a signal. I used this GPS on sharpROM with zroadmap and it worked fine.
No GPS here to test sorry.
Also I can't control the volume from xmms-embedded the slider moves but the sound stays at the same level.
It is unlikely that any Opie bugs will get fixed anytime soon :-(
It does change with alsamixer though. I don't have to do a user memory erase with this latest package right? doesn't the install write over it?
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Neither the installation nor any upgrades will touch your /home partition (at this time).
In fact, the flash isn't touched at all (besides flashing the new kernel of course)
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If it is not too forward, might I suggest that you include a link to dist-upgrade instructions, and changelog in your notification post.
Whilst all experienced zaurus users will be able to figure out how to use dist-upgrade, people new on the scene may have difficulty finding the instructions.
Good idea! Want to write something up?
I will look at it tomorrow or Saturday, too much football on the TV tonight.
Samac
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If it is not too forward, might I suggest that you include a link to dist-upgrade instructions, and changelog in your notification post.
Whilst all experienced zaurus users will be able to figure out how to use dist-upgrade, people new on the scene may have difficulty finding the instructions.
Good idea! Want to write something up?
I will look at it tomorrow or Saturday, too much football on the TV tonight.
Samac
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Thanks
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A new update is available (use the dist-upgrade command):
- Fix a wrong hutils.conf on all machines but collie after an upgrade
(SL-Cxx00 users should no longer get cardfs prompts etc)
All Users Please Note:
- Exit GPE or Opie before running dist-upgrade
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Also I can't control the volume from xmms-embedded the slider moves but the sound stays at the same level. It does change with alsamixer though.
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RP and lrg did create a fix for the volume control. The basic problem was that there was no main volume channel mapped. I did create a hack that works. I am not sure if the changes have been pushed yet or not.
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i want to install this rom to my poodles internal rom, is that possible and how? thanks
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i want to install this rom to my poodles internal rom, is that possible and how? thanks
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It isn't. Poodle requires an SD card for installation.
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RP and lrg did create a fix for the volume control. The basic problem was that there was no main volume channel mapped. I did create a hack that works. I am not sure if the changes have been pushed yet or not.
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<CoreDump|home> RP: Any updates on [a href=\"http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553]http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553[/url] ?
<koen> CoreDump|home: iirc that patch is in the latest ASoC
<koen> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~lg/asoc/ (http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~lg/asoc/)
I'll update the asoc patch for 2.6.17 and have a look.
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Especially while trying to get my GPS reciever working. Sometimes it just wont boot while the reciever is plugged into to the serial port. Sometimes if I boot it up into Opie and then plug in the GPS reciever it reboots soem times it stays on. If I start gpsd like this "gpsd /dev/ttyS0" gpsd starts fine but a "cat /dev/ttyS0" just spits out garbage and qpegps does not ever pick up a signal. I used this GPS on sharpROM with zroadmap and it worked fine.
No GPS here to test sorry.
Also I can't control the volume from xmms-embedded the slider moves but the sound stays at the same level.
It is unlikely that any Opie bugs will get fixed anytime soon :-(
It does change with alsamixer though. I don't have to do a user memory erase with this latest package right? doesn't the install write over it?
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Neither the installation nor any upgrades will touch your /home partition (at this time).
In fact, the flash isn't touched at all (besides flashing the new kernel of course)
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I know you said that you don't have a GPS to test but I jusst wanted to ask this again as I am not sure if this should work like I think: if I cat /dev/ttyS0 with a GPS reciever hooked up to my serial port I should see the NMEA sentences output to stdout, provided baud rate and all is correct right?
Also, I just installed the new GPE rom (same version) because you said Opie is not being supported , however everytime it goes into suspend I can't wake it up and I have to reset. Is there something I can do about this? Thanks.
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if I cat /dev/ttyS0 with a GPS reciever hooked up to my serial port I should see the NMEA sentences output to stdout, provided baud rate and all is correct right?
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Only if your GPS is in NMEA mode. If it's suddenly using a binary protocol (garmin, sirf, etc) you needs either gpsd or switch it back to NMEA.
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i need a 2nd sd card then... but for now i need gaim and firefox. can you give the ipk files of this softwares? i didnt install them to opie. its not work...
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i need a 2nd sd card then... but for now i need gaim and firefox. can you give the ipk files of this softwares? i didnt install them to opie. its not work...
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'ipk update ; ipkg install gaim firefox'
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QUOTE(samac @ Nov 23 2006, 10:49 PM)
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If it is not too forward, might I suggest that you include a link to dist-upgrade instructions, and changelog in your notification post.
Whilst all experienced zaurus users will be able to figure out how to use dist-upgrade, people new on the scene may have difficulty finding the instructions.
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Good idea! Want to write something up?
I will look at it tomorrow or Saturday, too much football on the TV tonight.
Samac
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CoreDump
Is there a way that I can undo my last dist-upgrade.
I need to get a screen shot of the update stage of the dist-upgrade, the bit after press enter to continue.
Also have you an address that I can email the html file to. You can send it to:
steven dot mcintosh at blueyonder dot co dot uk
Thanks
samac
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i need a 2nd sd card then... but for now i need gaim and firefox. can you give the ipk files of this softwares? i didnt install them to opie. its not work...
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'ipk update ; ipkg install gaim firefox'
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yes but not work. its askin for protocols i am installing msn protocol but it gives error an closing down. i tried too many times...
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Okay, I'm sold on the Hentges ROM. However... should I be switching my Collie to GPE?
I'm also considering buying an Akita (C1000) in a week's time. GPE on that too?
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i need a 2nd sd card then... but for now i need gaim and firefox. can you give the ipk files of this softwares? i didnt install them to opie. its not work...
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'ipk update ; ipkg install gaim firefox'
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yes but not work. its askin for protocols i am installing msn protocol but it gives error an closing down. i tried too many times...
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At least gaim should come pre-installed on Hentges, Firefox is included in the spitz images.
Haven't used either in a long time tho.
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Okay, I'm sold on the Hentges ROM. However... should I be switching my Collie to GPE?
I'm also considering buying an Akita (C1000) in a week's time. GPE on that too?
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I'm a fan of Opie on QVGA (ie: 320x240) machines. On VGA (ie: all clamshells) however, I do prefer GPE and its X11 goodness
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CoreDump
Is there a way that I can undo my last dist-upgrade.
I need to get a screen shot of the update stage of the dist-upgrade, the bit after press enter to continue.
Not directly, no. You could try using the testing feed (dist-upgrade --type=testing) but that might b0rk your installation
Also have you an address that I can email the html file to. You can send it to:
steven dot mcintosh at blueyonder dot co dot uk
Thanks
samac
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Mail is on its way.
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I have recently installed the Hentges GPE image and I am having some problems with it. I will post them here but is there a bugtracker I should post this to? Is there a page which I can read to see if anyone has had similar problems with this particular ROM and what solutions they might have come up with. I hate to waste your guys time asking repeat questions. I have read this entire topic. I am somewhat new to beta testing (although I do run Debian testing) so I apologize for the lack of knowledge/proper etiquette. The problems are listed below:
1) When I suspend GPE it just stops responding and the backlight never goes off. I have to reset to get it back up.
2) Some keys on my keyboard stop responding. ie caps lock and FN. A reboot will fix this.I can't use num lock at all.
3) Applet launchers on the panel disappear at random. A reboot doesn't fix this, I have to readd them to the panel.
4) If I minimize a window it is gone forever (or until the next reboot) and the associated application cannot be restarted.
5) xmms window does not fit on the screen and xmms will not play mp3s correctly, the sound is garbled.
6) xmms-embedded will not install. ipkg says it can't find the package.
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5) xmms window does not fit on the screen and xmms will not play mp3s correctly, the sound is garbled.
6) xmms-embedded will not install. ipkg says it can't find the package.
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xmms-embedded is an opie app... When I tried gpe a while back the lack of a good GUI media player for QVGA was one of the reasons I didn't get very far. I second CoreDump's assesment that for now, Opie is the better choice for collie and poodle.
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I have recently installed the Hentges GPE image and I am having some problems with it. I will post them here but is there a bugtracker I should post this to? Is there a page which I can read to see if anyone has had similar problems with this particular ROM and what solutions they might have come up with. I hate to waste your guys time asking repeat questions. I have read this entire topic. I am somewhat new to beta testing (although I do run Debian testing) so I apologize for the lack of knowledge/proper etiquette. The problems are listed below:
1) When I suspend GPE it just stops responding and the backlight never goes off. I have to reset to get it back up.
GPE on Poodle is not very well tested since the machine is basically OOM right when it hits the login manager....Maybe your resume is b0rke due to low RAM? Tried adding some swap?
2) Some keys on my keyboard stop responding. ie caps lock and FN. A reboot will fix this.I can't use num lock at all.
Numlock doesn't work which is a driver problem. The GPE keymapping is far from complete (see lack of testing above) but at least in the VT all keys should work, did you try that?
3) Applet launchers on the panel disappear at random. A reboot doesn't fix this, I have to readd them to the panel.
I duno what could be causing it. Maybe the OOM killer is killing off these apps?
4) If I minimize a window it is gone forever (or until the next reboot) and the associated application cannot be restarted.
Minimized windows can be found the the Active Tasks folder in GPE
5) xmms window does not fit on the screen and xmms will not play mp3s correctly, the sound is garbled.
6) xmms-embedded will not install. ipkg says it can't find the package.
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5) xmms window does not fit on the screen and xmms will not play mp3s correctly, the sound is garbled.
6) xmms-embedded will not install. ipkg says it can't find the package.
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xmms-embedded is an opie app... When I tried gpe a while back the lack of a good GUI media player for QVGA was one of the reasons I didn't get very far. I second CoreDump's assesment that for now, Opie is the better choice for collie and poodle.
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But didn't Coredump write that Opie wasn't being maintained anymore? Are we poodle users destined to fade away into obscurity? I can't afford a C-series Z, at least while maintaining my marital status. Why have the Developers forsaken us, why,........................... why!!!!
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But didn't Coredump write that Opie wasn't being maintained anymore? Are we poodle users destined to fade away into obscurity? I can't afford a C-series Z, at least while maintaining my marital status. Why have the Developers forsaken us, why,........................... why!!!![div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147468\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Why? let me write from my point of view.
1. Qt/e 2.3 which OPIE use is very old (qt2 is few years old nevermind that 2.3.12 was released in 2006).
2. Qt 4 is way easier to use for development.
Result is that after playing with Qt4 I do not want to reinvent wheel just to get my applications working on Zaurus/OPIE. I did many changes in OPIE in first two years of owning Zaurus but now I refuse to work on it.
There are rumours that Qtopia4 GPL will exist in 2007 so maybe it will get adopted for Zaurus. But this is only rumour...
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5) xmms window does not fit on the screen and xmms will not play mp3s correctly, the sound is garbled.
6) xmms-embedded will not install. ipkg says it can't find the package.
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xmms-embedded is an opie app... When I tried gpe a while back the lack of a good GUI media player for QVGA was one of the reasons I didn't get very far. I second CoreDump's assesment that for now, Opie is the better choice for collie and poodle.
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But didn't Coredump write that Opie wasn't being maintained anymore? Are we poodle users destined to fade away into obscurity? I can't afford a C-series Z, at least while maintaining my marital status. Why have the Developers forsaken us, why,........................... why!!!!
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Opie is not completley dead yet either In its current state it actually works pretty well for what I use it for...with the exception of a good webbrowser. Threre are also some resource limited ipaq people who are still working with opie. So I would say that Opie should be a viable choice for at least 6-8 months.
The next kernel will get the volume control in opie working
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As my Akita speeds it's way through the US Postal system after it's flight from Tokyo to New York City...
Has anyone tried to get serial_fd working on a collie in OZ? Even in Hentges I get a "insmod: init_module: serial_fd: invalid argument" and it fails to load the module.
Argh!
Hopefully the Akita will have a generic USB Ethernet adapter so I don't have to install software on any Windows box...
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Hey Coredump? What window manager are you using in the GPE images? I just got my Akita and after a bit of a trying time with GPE I slapped Opie on it. Fluxbox just doesn't work well with it. I'm using the latest -20061108 release.
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I installed the 20061108 cardfs-gpe-collie install on my 5500 and I'm having trouble with both ipkg update failing and dist-upgrade failing, Do I need to do a dist-upgrade if I have the 20061108 image?
ipkg seems to fail on getting packages from feeds.openzaurus.org, It fails on the python feed
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I installed the 20061108 cardfs-gpe-collie install on my 5500 and I'm having trouble with both ipkg update failing and dist-upgrade failing, Do I need to do a dist-upgrade if I have the 20061108 image?
ipkg seems to fail on getting packages from feeds.openzaurus.org, It fails on the python feed
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I'd get the Opie version with a SD card having a CardFS installed on it. The SL-5500 (collie) isn't suited for GPE.
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The SL-5500 (collie) isn't suited for GPE.
What makes you think so?
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The SL-5500 (collie) isn't suited for GPE.
What makes you think so?
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I've tried it myself on my collie. It really needs the room to spread out.
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Where is the how to doc for install hentges rom to sd card?
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i think i did somethings wrong.. now i am having "unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" error. its cannot open. i think i forgot the copy gnu-tar file... and i dont have an sd card reader/writer on my pc. how can i start my poodle?
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ok i installed again and select 1 from altboot, worked.
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i pluggin in my headphones but both speakers and headphones playin sounds and i cant change volume from mixer or player, is there any fix for it?
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i pluggin in my headphones but both speakers and headphones playin sounds and i cant change volume from mixer or player, is there any fix for it?
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Try using alsamixer from the command line.
Daryl
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Try using alsamixer from the command line.
Daryl
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Thanx a lot
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How is this ROM working now? I tried it a while back on my poodle, but had to go back to Sharp ROM because I couldn't get my GPS reciever (serial Globalsat BR305) and I kept having power issues(it would just shut off after a while). Is it ripe enough for everyday use on the poodle? I use my poodle for PIM, mp3s and GPS (with zroadmap). I had a wifi card (Sandisk Connect+) too but I sold cuz I couldn't get it working under Sharp ROM and now I can't seem to find one that works with sharp ROm.
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I installed the 20061108 cardfs-gpe-collie install on my 5500 and I'm having trouble with both ipkg update failing and dist-upgrade failing, Do I need to do a dist-upgrade if I have the 20061108 image?
ipkg seems to fail on getting packages from feeds.openzaurus.org, It fails on the python feed
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I have same issues on my Collie with opie
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Hentges had to stop development of OZ/Hentges for a while.