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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: Legodude522 on October 29, 2006, 07:55:22 pm
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I'm a Cacko user and haven't tried pdaXrom before. I'd like to start using it. I know how to flash my ROM but is there anything I should know as being a Cacko user.
Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 with Netgear Wifi card.
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For 1 change your avatar back! :-)
No... I dont know about the Netgear card...
But I would say start off with beta3... I suggest users using pdaxrom for the first time to use one of the "more" stable releases so you are not turned off from the first impression...
Any questions you have feel free to post... but please do a quick search prior to posting... just saying this to save you a headache... :-)
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Beta 3 doesn't come with U-Boot. Would I need that?
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This will be extremely obvious if you have read the documentation, but in order to get into the GUI you have to log in as root with no password and type "startx".
I believe that I had trouble with this the first time I installed pdaXrom (but that was my first experience with Linux EVER).
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You don't need uBoot for Beta 3, only for Beta 4 and r121.
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pdaXrom Beta 3 is installed. I love it! Its so much more responsive than Cacko.
Off I go to install some pdaXrom apps...
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I'm going to make the switch to pdaXrom, but I'm waiting until February when I order a new second Z.
I wish to have Cacko on one and pdaXrom on the other.
I hope I can still find a C3100 when that time comes..
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Jon J... I plan on doing the same...
getting another Z... prolly keep the c1000 for beta testing...
and have the other for "Production" :-)
Still pdaxrom on both though...
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Sorry I cannot help you in the wifi card thing, but i would like to say a few words about pdaXrom in general.
pdaXrom is much closer to other desktop Linux distros than Sharp/Cacko. Almost all the apps for pdaXrom are directly (and can be relatively easily) compiled from the available sources. And they run smoothly (even for big guys like Firefox, GIMP and gumeric)!
The official feeds already have lots of packages. Yet don't forget to check out the contrib feeds and quite a feed individual feeds of some members here, including the "New Packages Announcement" thread. They have kept growing with tons of nice packages ready to use!
I'd say after using pdaXrom for more than a year, I find myself having much less frustration with lack of useful packages and with platform specific issues now than when I was using Sharp rom in the old days.
P.S. It's interesting to see more and more folks (I am one of them, hehe...) are going for having 2 Zs, one for real use and the other as a laboratory. My C1000 is now running Beta3 and feels quite rock solid, whereas my C860 (Beta1 -- or see my signature) has been awaiting quite a while for a more stable beta to test and to crash.
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I'm going to make the switch to pdaXrom, but I'm waiting until February when I order a new second Z.
I wish to have Cacko on one and pdaXrom on the other.
I hope I can still find a C3100 when that time comes..
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By that time the next Z model would have been announced.
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Sorry for sounding a little noobish but there seems to be "little" documentation for pdaXrom.
I went through a lot of whats there on their site and on this forum. I'm having trouble getting the feed to work. I added the feed that I know is up but how can I get the list?
Also Gaim won't launch.
My wireless card and my USB mouse worked flawlessly.
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loji's has been working on a very nice guide for beta3: http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm (http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm)
Meanie's page is a classic: http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
(pity to see "This page is discontinued ...")
For GAIM, try to launch it from the terminal and see what errors the app has.
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loji's has been working on a very nice guide for beta3: http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm (http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm)
Meanie's page is a classic: http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
(pity to see "This page is discontinued ...")
For GAIM, try to launch it from the terminal and see what errors the app has.
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Thanks so much for the links. They seem to be very helpful. The feeds still don't come through. I have followed the instructions to fix the package manager. But nothing, the log says it couldn't retrieve it.
Gaim seems to have had a problem with one of the lib files. I'm not too concerned right now.
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How do you set up the feeds in the package manager?
An alternative is to edit "ipkg.conf" and run "ipkg update" in the terminal. And then simply run "ipkg (-d DESTINATION PATH) install PACKAGE NAME" to install the desired package.
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Gaim seems to have had a problem with one of the lib files. I'm not too concerned right now.
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If your feed isn't working that is prolly the issue your having with Gaim... there are mutliple dependancies that need to tag along... and you prolly didnt install them, if you just pulled the single ipk from one of the feeds...
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Ps. congrats on your first pdaxrom running setup...
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I've had issues with mistyping URLs into the package manager. I assume you've already double-checked your URLs (having www where you shouldn't)?
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Thanks so much for the links. They seem to be very helpful. The feeds still don't come through. I have followed the instructions to fix the package manager. But nothing, the log says it couldn't retrieve it.
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Hey... some friendly advice... what I do it is open up firefox or dillo and type in...
www.pdaxrom.org/download/
this will bring you to the downloads section "FTP"style and just navigate to the feed you want... and copy and paste that url into package manager... *NOTE* the last dir needs to be "feed"...
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loji's has been working on a very nice guide for beta3: http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm (http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm)
Meanie's page is a classic: http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
(pity to see "This page is discontinued ...")
For GAIM, try to launch it from the terminal and see what errors the app has.
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Meanie's page has been moved to a different server.
It still says "This page is discontinued..."
[a href=\"http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/custom-pdaxrom.html]http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/custom-pdaxrom.html[/url]
If he decides to take it down, I saved it and zipped it up, attached below:
BTW, ZDevil, you mentioned a "New" Z should be released by February.
I may just have enough extra mony to get another one in late January.
(This would be my 1 yr anniversary for my current C3100)
Still hoping to find a C3100, since the processor was changed in the C3200
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loji's has been working on a very nice guide for beta3: http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm (http://www.thesounddesign.com/zaurus/beta3.htm)
Meanie's page is a classic: http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-pdaxrom.html)
(pity to see "This page is discontinued ...")
For GAIM, try to launch it from the terminal and see what errors the app has.
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Meanie's page has been moved to a different server.
It still says "This page is discontinued..."
[a href=\"http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/custom-pdaxrom.html]http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/custom-pdaxrom.html[/url]
If he decides to take it down, I saved it and zipped it up, attached below:
BTW, ZDevil, you mentioned a "New" Z should be released by February.
I may just have enough extra mony to get another one in late January.
(This would be my 1 yr anniversary for my current C3100)
Still hoping to find a C3100, since the processor was changed in the C3200
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Could Meanie tell us which system is running on his Z now? I ask this because I find both his pdaXrom and OE guides have been labelled as "discontinued"...
It is just my hunch that (according to the product cycles in the past) Sharp will release a new Z model around next February, which is one year after the release of C3200. If this does not happen, I will begin to worry about Z's future on the whole...
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Per his sig...
SL-C3100 - Sharp ROM 1.02 JP with Tetsu's special Kernel v18b
SL-C3000 - awaiting working distro
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I just installed Firefox from my SD card to my Zaurus. How can I get it to have an icon in the Internet folder?
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It normally appears... have you tried to close of of Matchbox and open it back up?
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That should work. Also, if you don't like the icon, try this one.
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I decided to go back to Cacko. Cacko was more simple and just worked better as a PDA. Also pdaXrom acted funny sometimes.(beta of course)
Sorry guys. I might come back when there are newer version out
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... j/k
I'm glad you did take the time to test of the ROM...
Hopefully the next release will be stable at first boot... I have plans to help out putting things together new features but still fixing standing issues...
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yeah.. I saw some of the network scripting on the r121 page. I bagged r121 for daily use. went back to beta 3 (this time linked to sd instead of the hd--see if that saves some juice)
anyway, Iposted here to address 2 issues
1). the stuff working outta the box--the config applets and networking seem to be what turns me off fastest-- if they are dead, and the network is going to be timeconsuming to setup, Im aggravated--and I'm sure it just isn't a good start for people flashing to a new rom (re I'm thinking of using pdaxrom) as they wouldn't even have the motivation of knowing the end result to be good.
To be honest, a good, thorough, beta3 setup takes about a day (I'm familiar with beta3 and it has fewer big glitches than 121) one of the 2.6 betas would take me longer, as there is more to do, and no "loji's page" to point stuff out. Niether of these is a really good start for soemone checking out pdax
2). re testing on older Zaurii-- I'm testing OZ on my 6000 ATM for a few reasons--interest in the neo1973, curiosity about some updates, the rather compelling logic (regarding the production of up to date software for multiple devices) of their buildsystem, and - what is important here, anyway- THERE IS NO recent pdax to check out on my 6000. And I don't want to lose too many weekends testing stuff on a Z that I actually want to use on a regular basis.
Your comment made me think of a really good reason to include more models in the beta releases--- it will bring more testers
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yeah.. I saw some of the network scripting on the r121 page. I bagged r121 for daily use. went back to beta 3 (this time linked to sd instead of the hd--see if that saves some juice)
anyway, Iposted here to address 2 issues
1). the stuff working outta the box--the config applets and networking seem to be what turns me off fastest-- if they are dead, and the network is going to be timeconsuming to setup, Im aggravated--and I'm sure it just isn't a good start for people flashing to a new rom (re I'm thinking of using pdaxrom) as they wouldn't even have the motivation of knowing the end result to be good.
To be honest, a good, thorough, beta3 setup takes about a day (I'm familiar with beta3 and it has fewer big glitches than 121) one of the 2.6 betas would take me longer, as there is more to do, and no "loji's page" to point stuff out. Niether of these is a really good start for soemone checking out pdax
Your comment made me think of a really good reason to include more models in the beta releases--- it will bring more testers
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I can understand 100% why you say this... this is the reason why when a user says they are going to try pdaxrom for the first time i tell them to start of with beta3 if on cxx00 and beta1 if cxx0...
because beta4 and rc121 are very flaky roms intended for beta testers... and it will turn off a novice user... me personally... im using beta3 right now to type this post.... but when i have time work on fixes, changes and to make improvements... i flash rc121... in the next week or so.. i plan on making the complete switch... due to me not spending enough time with it...
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PS: You know what... screw it... I'm doing it now... :-)...
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After reading Legodudes attempt to jump off into pdaXrom land I got into lemmings mode and jumped to . I tried out Beta 3 after InSearchOf's recommendation. But due to a faulty install with corrupt files I said screw it and tried rc121. So far I'm loving it. I've been wrestling with it for about a week however I learned the following.
1. How to create networking scripts. I've taken what was on the pdaXrom main page and added some things by googling it. check it
#!/bin/sh
echo "Resetting Wireless"
ifconfig wlan0 down
rm /var/run/dhcpcd-wlan0.pid
sleep 1
echo "Turning Up Network"
ifconfig wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 essid Core mode managed key ##########
dhcpcd wlan0
sleep 5
ifconfig wlan0
I have about three scripts for home, work, and friends house. Now I just have to get kismet working.
2. Learning how to run IPKG commands. Now I only look at the package manager to see what's been installed and what I can install. After trying Cacko, OZ, and now Xrom I came to realize that the command line is better.
3. How to partition my 4G SD card using fdisk and formatting for EXT2. It took me a while to realize that installing apps with a vfat partition is a no go for Xrom . With the newer Kernel it reads it smoothly.
Now I have a lot of apps loaded on SD (apps load better on SD w/ Xrom than Cacko IMHO). I finally feel like my Z is a mini laptop with Firefox, Gnumeric, Abiword, etc.. I was especially happy with KOPI still being able to install and loading my data. I can't tell if rc121 is flaky compared to Beta3 because I have no baseline to go off of.
Enough of the exhortation.... I'm sticking with pdaXrom.... I just have to figure out a couple of things.
1. Get VNCserver working with it to produce screenshots
2. Research on how to get a 128M swapfile on my seconds SD partition
3. Get Kismet or Wellenweiter running on it. And WPA w/ TKIP
4. Learn how to compile.....
Thanks Guys
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Hi Harvell, good to have you with us!
I'm using beta3 myself as I was never able to get my Planex wifi card workong in r121.
Glad it's coming together though. A tip- you can use the command ipkg-link to list installed packages which I find very useful and never use package manager anymore.
Do a search for Scrot as it's ideal for screenshots, tightvnc is great for remote desktops though.
I don't think either release is flaky, they just need a lot of tweaking to get it how u like it
Let us know how u get on with Wellenreiter and Kismet as I'm curious myself
ciao!
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I dont believe kismet will work as of yet... with out the hostap module(s)...
But let us know if you get it all together...
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PS. Flaky aka Buggy... but this is what beta is all about! push out new features... figure out whats wrong... fix them... and we will be one step closer to a stable release... :-)
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1. Get VNCserver working with it to produce screenshots
2. Research on how to get a 128M swapfile on my seconds SD partition
3. Get Kismet or Wellenweiter running on it. And WPA w/ TKIP
4. Learn how to compile.....
Thanks Guys
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1. Use this command...
# xwd -display :0.0 -root -out screen.xwd
If you have gimp loaded on your Z you can use it to open and convert it to a different file format.
2. Did you create the swapfile or swap partition... if you have a swap partion then do a # mkswap /dev/mmcblkp* (* being the partition #)
Swap file (never used this)
# dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=4MB count=1
# mkswap swapfile
# swapon swapfile
3. As I said in the above post
4. Native compilation... download the URL=http://www.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0r121/Zaurus-7x0-860/zgcc-3.4.6.img]zgcc-3.4.6.img[/URL] from the pdaxrom.org site... from there you can place it in your /home/root directory and it will be mounted at boot... from there... COMPILE AWAY! :-)
If read one of my other posts somewhere I posted about changing the location of where you place you zgcc for it to still mount at boot... plus you will find manual mounting instructions in the same thread by Chero...
Cross compling can be done via pdax86 live cd...
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For screenshots, you can jjust install Scrot, found here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18415&st=105). This allows you to take screenshots in the PNG format.
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For screenshots, you can jjust install Scrot, found here (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18415&st=105). This allows you to take screenshots in the PNG format.
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Or that... Thanks Capn
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doh! (nothinnng)
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" without the hostap modules"??!!
I thought I saw some in r121..despit the fact that my card regularly came up as an orinoco (which doesn't work, btw). I didn't get it working, didn't sspend too long as it reminded me of a similar problem in a previous OZ relase that had turned into an annoyance.
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" without the hostap modules"??!!
I thought I saw some in r121..despit the fact that my card regularly came up as an orinoco (which doesn't work, btw). I didn't get it working, didn't sspend too long as it reminded me of a similar problem in a previous OZ relase that had turned into an annoyance.
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Which has been fixed in OE for quite a while now, fwiw
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" without the hostap modules"??!!
I thought I saw some in r121..despit the fact that my card regularly came up as an orinoco (which doesn't work, btw). I didn't get it working, didn't sspend too long as it reminded me of a similar problem in a previous OZ relase that had turned into an annoyance.
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Which has been fixed in OE for quite a while now, fwiw
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LOL I pojntedly said "previous." I mentioned it at all, as I recall whining a good bit about the issue in OZ, and to be fair made an issue of it here too.
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" without the hostap modules"??!!
I thought I saw some in r121..despit the fact that my card regularly came up as an orinoco (which doesn't work, btw). I didn't get it working, didn't sspend too long as it reminded me of a similar problem in a previous OZ relase that had turned into an annoyance.
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Which has been fixed in OE for quite a while now, fwiw
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LOL I pojntedly said "previous." I mentioned it at all, as I recall whining a good bit about the issue in OZ, and to be fair made an issue of it here too.
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Sure, my statement was just a hint for the pdaX devs, so they know where to look for a solution
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Well since you offered... I'm not an offical pdaX dev... but a "whisper in my ear" wouldn't hurt...
For the record as I said earlier... I dont know if pdaX is lacking the hostap modules or not... this is just from posts I've read... I know I've seen hostap ipks in the feed but if they work... I dont know... I dont need the features of these... so I have no need to use them... If I have time I can look into it...
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ok... I hostap module is there
/lib/modules/2.6.16/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hostap
but... does it work... I dont know... anyone can confirm this... please let us know...
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Ok... I loaded the hostap module so it is there... but I can't test till I get home... (ssh'd to Z)
Late Again...
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Well since you offered... I'm not an offical pdaX dev... but a "whisper in my ear" wouldn't hurt...
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Psst: [a href=\"http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.18/orinoco-remove-all-which-are-in-hostap-HACK.patch]http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.opene...stap-HACK.patch[/url]
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With my Ambicom WL1100C-CF I'm able to connect. With a dmesg it does reference
hostap_cs: Registered netdevice wifi0
It's been working great... However when I reboot, the card is hung and I have to unplug it and reseat it.
I can't ssh into right now because my Wireless at work is guest access only and my pc is in a secured environment. I'm trying to get USB networking going however my XP box is asking for drivers . I tried using the same drivers as before however no go.....
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With my Ambicom WL1100C-CF I'm able to connect. With a dmesg it does reference
hostap_cs: Registered netdevice wifi0
It's been working great... However when I reboot, the card is hung and I have to unplug it and reseat it.
I can't ssh into right now because my Wireless at work is guest access only and my pc is in a secured environment. I'm trying to get USB networking going however my XP box is asking for drivers . I tried using the same drivers as before however no go.....
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Thanks for the comfimation on hostap...
But when you say hang... you mean like... no lights... and you have to pull and reseat to for it to be recognized...
Any errors in dmesg when left in at boot?
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With my Ambicom WL1100C-CF I'm able to connect. With a dmesg it does reference
hostap_cs: Registered netdevice wifi0
It's been working great... However when I reboot, the card is hung and I have to unplug it and reseat it.
I can't ssh into right now because my Wireless at work is guest access only and my pc is in a secured environment. I'm trying to get USB networking going however my XP box is asking for drivers . I tried using the same drivers as before however no go.....
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Thanks for the comfimation on hostap...
But when you say hang... you mean like... no lights... and you have to pull and reseat to for it to be recognized...
Any errors in dmesg when left in at boot?
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Actually light turns on then stays on. You can't turn off the interface or turn on. I just pull it out and reseat. Here's what dmesg says at boot.
NET: Registered protocol family 2
pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
IP route cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096)
TCP reno registered
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Hope that helps
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if you "lsmod" do you see an orinoco module? I did. though I also saw the hostap_cs stuff.
At any rate, I couldn't seem to connect to anything, and seeing the orinoco modules loaded, I bailed.
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Adf, Let me ask... Were you using the Lan/Wifi Config tool?
If so, thats the issue... Lan / Wifi broke with 2.6 kernel upgrade...
I have a lot on my plate that I want to work on... and new stuff keeps popping up... I going to have to prioritize my projects and start with one or two :-) and start another until that one is done...
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If the hostap modules work in r121 does this mean a Planex wifi card will also work? Last time I tried 121 this was my big problem, but if it now works I'd be tempted to flash again............