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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: Meanie on November 21, 2006, 07:50:06 pm
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I was thinking about discussing some of the applications we all use on pdaXrom. Since there are lots of applications available for pdaXrom, we each will have our own favourites which may be the same or different.
Maybe we should have a thread which discusses the most favourable applications depending on categories. There already is a thread on window managers, but I have not seen a thread on user applications yet so I though, let's start one.
There are several application categories that I can think of almost everyone would want to run and I think we should discuss what those are to find out what is most usable and popular. Well here goes:
Word Processing: AbiWord! what else?
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric! what else?
Browsers: Dillo (since it works best for most things), Firefox (slow but most feature rich), links, lynx, others?
Email: Sylpheed! Thunderbird is a bit slow in comparison, what else?
FTP: gftp, what else?
Text Editor: does anyone use scite? or does everyone prefer leadpad? or even vim? what else?
PIM: KOPI/KAPI?, what else?
PDF: xpdf? epdfview? evince? which one is better? what else?
Dictionaries: stardict or qbedic, or both? what else?
IM: Gaim?, Xchat?, licq? what else?
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics: GIMP, GQView, GThumb, etc..?
File Managers: rox, emelfm? what else?
Terminal: aterm, rxvt, putty? what else?
Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, kchmviewer, scrot, tuxcards ?
Are there any other applications that people love to use on pdaXrom?
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Browsers: Dillo (since it works best for most things), Firefox (slow but most feature rich), links, lynx, others?
This one is still a bit of an in-between, with Dillo too basic and Firefox too slow to start.
Email: Sylpheed! Thunderbird is a bit slow in comparison, what else?
Absolutely - Sylpheed is great.
Text Editor: does anyone use scite? or does everyone prefer leadpad? or even vim? what else?
I use SciTE because it does syntax highlighting - I would use vim, but I've never got it working 100% with my settings...
PIM: KOPI/KAPI?, what else?
gpe-calendar is a great simple app provided you can get a version with working alarms. Much faster too.
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
xmms hasn't annoyed me enough to use anything else yet - just don't suspend while it's playing from files on CF/SD
File Managers: rox, emelfm? what else?
aterm is much faster...
Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, kchmviewer, scrot, tuxcards ?
Tuxcards, pptp, xournal
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Word Processing: AbiWord works well for me.
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric works well for me.
Browsers: I haven't given Links a good test drive yet, but Dillo and Firefox are typically all I need.
Email: I use neither Sylpheed nor Thunderbird. I currently only use web based readers.
FTP: gftp works well for me.
Text Editor: I only use vi. If someone can get spell check working with VIM I would use it more. Leafpad is pretty good but tend to just use vi.
PIM: I prefer the GPE PIM suit.
PDF: I like XPDF and Evince.
Dictionaries: I Haven't given either stardict or qbedic a good test drive yet.
IM: I find Gaim is all I use, although I've been meaning to pop into the pdaXrom chat.
Media Players: mpd is pretty sweet but xmms and mplayer seem to be the standards.
Graphics: I've only used GQView, but it seems to be fine for what I need.
File Managers: I love Rox but haven't tried anything else.
Terminal: I primary use Aterm, mostly because of the faux transparency.
Other Tools:
Console unziping, unraring, etc. and a comic book viewer, an app like notecase and a bible app like Gnome Sword Bible Study are my other standards.
Setting up multiple tty's and X11 through VNC would be nice too.
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Word Processing: Abiword
Spreadsheet: Gnumeric
Browser: Dillo, but looking for others
EMail: Sylpheed
FTP: None
Text Editor: SciTE for programming/Leafpad for everything else
PIM: None
PDF: None
Dictionary: QBedic
IM: None
Media: MPlayer
Graphics: GQView
File Manager: ROX, looking for others
Terminal: MRXVT
Other: Scrot
How about adding a section for games?
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Word Processing: Abiword
Spreadsheet: Gnumeric
Browser: Dillo, but looking for others
EMail: Sylpheed
FTP: None
Text Editor: SciTE for programming/Leafpad for everything else
PIM: None
PDF: None
Dictionary: QBedic
IM: None
Media: MPlayer
Graphics: GQView
File Manager: ROX, looking for others
Terminal: MRXVT
Other: Scrot
How about adding a section for games?
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this is great stuff. please feel free to add other sections. maybe an emulator section. a games section would be great too, but maybe a new thread dedicated to games would be a better idea since I feel that there would be a lot of games
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Word Processing: Abiword
Spreadsheet: Gnumeric
Browser: Dillo, but looking for others
EMail: Sylpheed
FTP: None
Text Editor: SciTE for programming/Leafpad for everything else
PIM: None
PDF: None
Dictionary: QBedic
IM: None
Media: MPlayer
Graphics: GQView
File Manager: ROX, looking for others
Terminal: MRXVT
Other: Scrot
How about adding a section for games?
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this is great stuff. please feel free to add other sections. maybe an emulator section. a games section would be great too, but maybe a new thread dedicated to games would be a better idea since I feel that there would be a lot of games
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I'll start a thread for games now.
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Word Processing: AbiWord! what else?
yep
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric! what else?
check
Browsers: Dillo (since it works best for most things), Firefox (slow but most feature rich), links, lynx, others?
same. would love to see FF2.0 and Sun Java working with the plugin
Email: Sylpheed! Thunderbird is a bit slow in comparison, what else?
sylpheed-claws (intermittantly trying to set it up to work with fetchmail on my server at home)
FTP: gftp, what else?
check
Text Editor: does anyone use scite? or does everyone prefer leadpad? or even vim? what else?
NANO. (sometimes leafpad or scite.... but nano is just sooo simple.
PIM: KOPI/KAPI?, what else?
fltdj (sorta--don't use much pim)
PDF: xpdf? epdfview? evince? which one is better? what else?
xpdf--works with xournal. maybe other stuff does too, haven't checked
Dictionaries: stardict or qbedic, or both? what else?
qbedic--meaning to switch to fltkbedic for better response times
IM: Gaim?, Xchat?, licq? what else?
gaim
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
same. with pymp, too. a little weak on the front end, though. a kinoish app would be nice here
Graphics: GIMP, GQView, GThumb, etc..?
gimp, gqview
File Managers: rox, emelfm? what else?
emel
Terminal: aterm, rxvt, putty? what else?
multi-rxvt, and gtk-term, too.
Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, kchmviewer, scrot, tuxcards ?
--yes. but not terribly often-- cups??
Are there any other applications that people love to use on pdaXrom?
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vlc for shoutcast--though appaerently it can be done w/ mplayer
vnc --would love to see NX.
galculator.
--Oh, yeah--- Xournal
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Word Processing: AbiWord
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric
Browsers: Dillo / firefox, liferea
Email: Sylpheed
Text Editor: scite for programming, leafpad for other
PIM: KOPI/KAPI, xournal
PDF: evince (xpdf has many bug)
Dictionaries: zbedic
IM: Gaim
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics: GThumb, mtpaint
File Managers: rox
Terminal: aterm
Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, scrot
GAMES!: quake I/II, scummvm, psx4all, snes, pingus
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pim app: gpe-calendar (quicker than ko/pi)
rss aggregator: liferea (indispensible but fails to read some feeds, like slashdot )
irc client: BitchX or XChat (console vs gui)
email: sylpheed (hmc version) or mutt (console vs gui)
file manager: MC or XFe - but if you suspend with it running the HDD light will not go out.
Terminal: MRXVT & Aterm
Games: XPat2 - card games
Text editor: Vim full or Nedit (console vs gui)
Web browser: Dillo or Links (console vs gui)
Comic reader: qcomicbook
misc: GPS, Kchmviewer, Xournal, Notecase, tightvnc
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Programs I use:
Wordprocessing: Abiword (what else?)
Spreadsheet: Gnumeric (what else?)
PIM: KDEPIMPI (kopi/kapi)
Browser: Firefox: slow only until having started, with mplayer-plugin for video streaming (unfortunaltely only microsoft codecs)
Sometimes konqueror, when I have lots of time to load the KDE-environment...
Email: Sylpheed
Audio: xmms (mp3, ogg, wav) and mplayer (if xmmx doesn't work properly)
Video: mplayer without cache in fullscreen
ebooks: FBReader (really great for fb2 and html!) and sometimes OpieReader (additional formats)
PDF: Xpdf (works, but ugly), evince (only for small documents). Sometimes KPDF, when I have lots of time to load the KDE-environment...
so this is one the few items I'm not quite happy with.
Editor: Leafpad and good old joe...
Terminals: mrxvt (very usefull!) and GTKTerm2.
Grafics: gthumb to get pictures from my digicam via USB, Gimp (not so often), KSnapshot for screenshots, when I have...
Personal Data: Gringotts
Dictionaries: StarDict for nearly everything, ZBedic for wikipedia...
Games: Imarbles, gnuchess, gSoko, GWeled...
I think, that's it.
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Word Processing: Abiword...
Spreadsheet: Gnumeric...
Browser: Firefox - while I speed up to 624... and Dillo for forums...
EMail:-
FTP: gFtp
Text Editor: Leafpad
PIM: KOPI/KAPI - a bit heavy but covers all my needs...
PDF: xPdf
Dictionary: QBedic
IM: Gaim - Connects to the world...
Media: MPlayer & xMms
Graphics: GThumb & GQView for small pics...
File Manager: ROX - the best!
Terminal: aTerm - cause of its transparency!
Other: Streamtuner, x11vnc, Grisbi, aMule, vncViewer, xArchiver & Liferea...
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Personal Data: Gringotts
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Interesting. I didn't know about that one.
It is said (on its homepage) that it is able to save also small files.
How is this implemented? I'm still looking for a kind of encrypted container for samll sensitive files. Bestcrypt is what I use now, but I don't like it too much, because containers cannot be created on the zaurus but only in Windows. and because it has no GUI :-)
daniel
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Word Processing:
1) txt2tags (http://txt2tags.sourceforge.net/) + scite. Easy wiki like tag notation, lightweight but powerful, many target formats from html to LaTex. With this I can keep my hands on the keyboard.
2) MoinMoin desktop wiki edition (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/DesktopEdition) + konqueror embedded. For the organized notes, easy to rsync with my notebook MoinMoin wiki because it's file based.
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric! because there's no alternative. Painfully missing the Excel export (fails).
Browsers: Additionally konqueror embedded. It renders my MoinMoin wiki correctly but is much more lightweight than firefox
Email: Sylpheed because it's good enough
FTP: Don't need it
Text Editor: scite is great
PIM: GPE-PIM Suite is nice and lightweight.
PDF: xpdf but wanna try the alternatives
Dictionaries: don't need it.
IM: Gaim does it all.
Media Players: xmms, mplayer - anything they can't play back?
Graphics: GQView is enough for me.
File Managers: thunar as I'm using XFCE.
Terminal: aterm and XFCE term.
Other Tools:
1) Opie-reader - for reading all my plucker documents. Together with sunrise (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/) and its firefox extension it makes web articles available for offline reading on my Z with a few clicks.
2) Gringotts - for all that passwords, CC numbers, etc on the go.
3) Planner - project planning for Linux - I use this on my notebook, too.
4) Sketchbook - for the quick and simple drawing
5) XFCE - because of eye candy
6) soundtracker - for some little music hacking
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Personal Data: Gringotts
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Interesting. I didn't know about that one.
It is said (on its homepage) that it is able to save also small files.
How is this implemented? I'm still looking for a kind of encrypted container for samll sensitive files. Bestcrypt is what I use now, but I don't like it too much, because containers cannot be created on the zaurus but only in Windows. and because it has no GUI :-)
daniel
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I don't know of that feature. What you can do is using a complete file as a password, but I never tried to save an external file within gringotts. It's rather lightweight. But you can try it out, it's in the unstable feed (and needs libgringotts from there too).
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[1) Opie-reader - for reading all my plucker documents. Together with sunrise (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/) and its firefox extension it makes web articles available for offline reading on my Z with a few clicks.
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Is opie-reader available in a feed?
I'm using justreader but it does not look as nice as opie-reader under Cacko ROM, so it would be good to have opie-reader in pdaX as well.
But I cannot find it in the feeds.
BTW: Thanks Meanie for that thread. It is very interesting and brings up a lot of useful information!
Thanks
daniel
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Is opie-reader available in a feed?
I'm using justreader but it does not look as nice as opie-reader under Cacko ROM, so it would be good to have opie-reader in pdaX as well.
But I cannot find it in the feeds.
Well, if I wouldn't be a pdaXrom user since almost two years, I also wouldn't know. It used to be in the old unstable feed. As this is not linked from the homepage anymore it is hard to find. Google found it because I still have got the ipk and I could search for the filename...
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/...0/rc5/unstable/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc5/unstable/)
It is the best ebook reader for the Z and I'm using it every day. I hope it will make its way back into the main feed. But some people do work on it:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15)
I hope it works for you
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Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.
Diesel1.
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Here are a few I use:
* Word Processor: editor + restructured text + docutils + python
* Wiki: moinmoin desktop
* Simple Website Generator: files in restructed text + rest2web
* Editors: vi, leafpad, nedit (tabbed documents)
* Ebooks: FBReader
* Financial: Grisbi
* Simple Flat File DB: Portabase (originally from Sharp ROMs - still very useful)
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Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.
Diesel1.
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How is it for speed and rendering pages correctly compared to dillo?
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Well, if I wouldn't be a pdaXrom user since almost two years, I also wouldn't know. It used to be in the old unstable feed. As this is not linked from the homepage anymore it is hard to find. Google found it because I still have got the ipk and I could search for the filename...
http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/...0/rc5/unstable/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/rc5/unstable/)
It is the best ebook reader for the Z and I'm using it every day. I hope it will make its way back into the main feed. But some people do work on it:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20467&st=15)
I hope it works for you
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Wow, thanks! Finally I have back the good old opie-reader!
However, when scrolling (not in-place, but rolling, what I prefer) it is not as smooth as in opie-reader under Cacko ROM. It is rather quivering during scrolling.
Is there any way around this? Maybe this has to do with the fonts? I have Bitstream Vera configured for use in opie-reader. Haven't tried other fonts yet.
Do you also experience that?
Thanks a lot
daniel
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Word Processing: AbiWord
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric
Browsers: Dillo, Firefox, Mozilla, links, lynx
Email: sylpheed-claws
FTP: gftp
Text Editor: vim, bluefish
PIM: KOPI/KAPI
PDF: xpdf
Dictionaries: stardict
IM: Gaim, licq
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics: xzgv, mtpaint, gimp
File Managers: mc, emelfm
Terminal: mrxvt
Other Tools: kchmviewer, tuxcards, hp48
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Hello
Four rules I learned (the hard way) about using pda is:
Use a text interface, it is less time and power consuming
Use the same tools every day
Make context switches as easy and rarely as possible
Use well documented and maintained software
My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.
Emacs can do all this for you
Word Processing: Emacs
SpreadSheet: never needed one
Browsers: emacs-w3m, dillo
Email: emacs-vm
FTP: emacs ange-ftp
Text Editor: emacs
PIM: emacs-planner
PDF: xpdf, pdf2txt
Dictionaries: steak in emacs (german-english-german), edict in emacs (japanese-german)
IM: emacs-erc
Media Players: emacs-emms
Graphics: not useful on pda
File Managers: emacs-dired
Terminal: emacs-shell
Other Tools: too much to mention. check emacs-wiki
Emacs is not good for impressing your friends. Its good for impressing you.
I want to create a short movie about emacs on zaurus. Feel free to contribute ideas. How do you use emacs?
Have a nice day
Enno
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I was thinking about discussing some of the applications we all use on pdaXrom. Since there are lots of applications available for pdaXrom, we each will have our own favourites which may be the same or different.
Maybe we should have a thread which discusses the most favourable applications depending on categories. There already is a thread on window managers, but I have not seen a thread on user applications yet so I though, let's start one.
There are several application categories that I can think of almost everyone would want to run and I think we should discuss what those are to find out what is most usable and popular. Well here goes:
Word Processing: AbiWord! what else?
SpreadSheet: Gnumeric! what else?
Browsers: Dillo (since it works best for most things), Firefox (slow but most feature rich), links, lynx, others?
Email: Sylpheed! Thunderbird is a bit slow in comparison, what else?
FTP: gftp, what else?
Text Editor: does anyone use scite? or does everyone prefer leadpad? or even vim? what else?
PIM: KOPI/KAPI?, what else?
PDF: xpdf? epdfview? evince? which one is better? what else?
Dictionaries: stardict or qbedic, or both? what else?
IM: Gaim?, Xchat?, licq? what else?
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics: GIMP, GQView, GThumb, etc..?
File Managers: rox, emelfm? what else?
Terminal: aterm, rxvt, putty? what else?
Other Tools: xarchiver, gps, kchmviewer, scrot, tuxcards ?
Are there any other applications that people love to use on pdaXrom?
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I pretty much agree with all that you have said but:
Browsers: prefer Firefox but I admit it is slow. (watch the face of your neighbour when you fire up a FULL browser on your pda!)
Graphics: have used GIMP but it is very slow. GQView has crashed on me with big files
Multimedia: xmms worked on one version of the rom but not on another so haven't revisited multimedia software at all.
Others: would love to get the latest version of dosbox on my Z. The last time I tried, the version compiled and put in the feed would not run the DOS prog. I wanted. The later version does.
thanks Phill
Oh, and I forgot, I once got DOOM (game) running and thoroughly enjoyed it. I would put that on again if I could get some more levels to play.
Phill
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My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.
Emacs can do all this for you
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Hi Enno,
this is a very interesting approach! I'd like to learn more about it!
Does emacs also have outliner capabilities?
Is dealing with XML and HTML easy?
Do you do email on the Zaurus? with mutt?
daniel
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rxvt can have transparent background as well just like aterm. for me, the only thing that aterm does which rxvt does not do is allow me to scrollback when I press the shift+up key
i could ditch aterm if i figure out how to do that in rxvt as well.
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I use MRXVT which is a tabbed version of rxvt, and still very light. Still I can use shift+up to scroll up a line, or Fn+Shift+Up page up, works very well and I'm surprise rxvt cannot.
Transparent backgrounds are also catered for I can't see how any other terminal apps can beat it!
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I use MRXVT which is a tabbed version of rxvt, and still very light. Still I can use shift+up to scroll up a line, or Fn+Shift+Up page up, works very well and I'm surprise rxvt cannot.
Transparent backgrounds are also catered for I can't see how any other terminal apps can beat it!
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exactly my opinion.
I use mrxvt for all active terminal work.
Aditionally I use rxvt as a helper terminal, e.g. for starting mplayer from Streamtuner, or for starting kismet from the menu etc.
daniel
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My favourite tool is emacs. And I use it on linux console without X.
Sometimes I start X if I need japanese language support, but not often.
Emacs can do all this for you
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Hi Enno,
this is a very interesting approach! I'd like to learn more about it!
Does emacs also have outliner capabilities?
Is dealing with XML and HTML easy?
Do you do email on the Zaurus? with mutt?
daniel
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Hi Daniel
There are at least two outline modes
[a href=\"http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/OutlineMode]http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/OutlineMode[/url]
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/AllOut (http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/AllOut)
Planner uses AllOut-Mode.
For other modes check the emacs wiki, too
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/XmlMode (http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/XmlMode)
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/MarkupModes (http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/MarkupModes)
Mutt is a very good email client. But at the moment I use emacs-vm. Check here
http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/ (http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/)
Everything is well documented.
bye
Enno
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Hi all. I am using Minimo for browsing at the moment.
Diesel1.
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How is it for speed and rendering pages correctly compared to dillo?
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Hi Karlto, sorry for the delay, I have no problems with any site I have browsed so far (except the usual limitations, flash java etc), I'm not sure if it can download links(?). It does seem as fast as dillo.
I must admit I usually only read oesf and other forums and bbc site!
Diesel1.
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so in general, wordprocessing, spreadsheet, email, ftp, dictionaries, IM, media players, graphics, file managers are straight forward and most people seem to be using the same group of apps. window managers and games are being discussed in other threads so the one of interests are:
Browsers since there is not one single killer browser yet. if only minimo was properly developed by its devs and made to work efficiently on linux rather than wince. does anybody use the old konqueror embedded browser which does not require kde installed?
PIM is something I have not used much at all and would like to hear more from people on what they use and why, what features they use/need, etc.
PDF viewers seem to be many and a bit unstable still. what is the current fav and most stable/functional?
Other Tools: there's been quite a few mentioned here and I think we need to discuss this more since there are probably lots of useful tools hanging around which not everybody knows about.
- scrot is great. i have integrated it into my screencap script
- chm, which is better: kchmviewer or xchm?
- fbreader vs opiereader? which one has better features?
- financial apps: grisbi, homebank, gnucash? anymore?
- streaming apps: vlc, amule, etc...?
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Browsers since there is not one single killer browser yet. if only minimo was properly developed by its devs and made to work efficiently on linux rather than wince. does anybody use the old konqueror embedded browser which does not require kde installed?
After Diesel1's post I decided to try Minimo again, but it doesn't really ring my bells. I think it is probably better to get some of the kinks ironed out of dillo for fast browsing, and wait for Firefox to load for feature-rich browsing.
PIM is something I have not used much at all and would like to hear more from people on what they use and why, what features they use/need, etc.
This is an area where speed is essential - kopi would be great but it just isn't there when I need it! gpe apps are my preference, but I would guess that most people here just use the first thing they can get working alarms with!
- financial apps: grisbi, homebank, gnucash? anymore?
I used homebank for a bit and found it quite nice - I'm not disciplined enough to keep it up though!
One of the biggest reasons for having a Zaurus is using general Linux shell tools etc - you don't need fancy applications when you can ssh, scp, cat, grep, tail your way around! Not to mention being able to write your own scripts to perform whatever function isn't available from a standard package. pdaXrom certainly isn't the only Linux distribution that does this, but it's the most transparent, easy to work with and closer to what you find on other machines. I can change things to work the way *I* want. (Can you tell I'm a Slackware fan from way back? )
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Where can one find:
gpe-calendar
gpe-addressbook (contacts?)
korganizer
kaddressbook
gnumeric
I have looked through a number of feeds and can't find them. I imagine that I will try both. I would like one that I could sync with Outlook some way, once in awhile.
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These are Sharp/Cacko apps.
korganizer
kaddressbook
are here:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/ (http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/)
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Thanks Jon. Do I need to do anything special to run them or just add the feed to my src's and install?
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I don't think these will work in pdaXrom
These are for Sharp or Cacko roms
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Package: kaddressbook
Version: 2.1.5-1
Depends: kmicrokdelibs
Section: qpe/pim
Architecture: arm
Maintainer: Lutz Rogowski <lutz@pi-sync.info>
MD5Sum: 0a2bd9ee37c61137dd3453d39d4da1b0
Size: 991521
Filename: kaddressbook_2.1.5-1_arm.ipk
Description: KOrganizer/Pi and Kaddressbook/Pi
The embedded version of KOrganizer/Platform-independend,
the KDE calendar and scheduling program
optimized for 640x480 and 320x240 resolution
on Zaurus PDA
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Package: korganizer
Version: 2.1.5-1
Depends: kmicrokdelibs
Section: qpe/pim
Architecture: arm
Maintainer: Lutz Rogowski <lutz@pi-sync.info>
MD5Sum: bc2ef9a3768b1c231ab184ef41bf26f7
Size: 915016
Filename: korganizer_2.1.5-1_arm.ipk
Description: KOrganizer/Pi and Kaddressbook/Pi
The embedded version of KOrganizer/Platform-independend,
the KDE calendar and scheduling program
optimized for 640x480 and 320x240 resolution
on Zaurus PDA
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OK. I thought that the whole point of Meanie's thread was to do with what apps we are using under pdaXrom. In his first post, that is what he says and he says that he is running kopi/kapi. I don't know. Thanks for the feedback.
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I'm not certain either.
Both these files are in these 2 Cacko feeds.
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/ (http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/)
http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/ (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/)
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I'm not certain either.
Both these files are in these 2 Cacko feeds.
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/ (http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/)
http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/ (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=149379\")
search the pdaX forum for kdepimpi_2.2.7
The ipkg is attached to several posts.
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16359&pid=105367&mode=threaded&show=&st=&#entry105367]e.g. here[/url]
You could also search for ULHume 's feed (I don't recall the name of the server and I don't have my Z with me now.)
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I'm not certain either.
Both these files are in these 2 Cacko feeds.
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/ (http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/feed/)
http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/ (http://www.zaurususergroup.org/feed/)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=149379\")
search the pdaX forum for kdepimpi_2.2.7
The ipkg is attached to several posts.
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16359&pid=105367&mode=threaded&show=&st=&#entry105367]e.g. here[/url]
You could also search for ULHume 's feed (I don't recall the name of the server and I don't have my Z with me now.)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
(http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=149484\")
I did search the forums before I asked the question. Attachments are still broken. I also would have looked on the pdaXrom community page, but that also was down and I could not find any of the contrib feeds on ibiblio. I will keep looking. Thanks.
**UPDATE: I found many GPE apps, etc. at [a href=\"http://www.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Xromer/OldBetas/]http://www.pdaxrom.org/contrib/Xromer/OldBetas/[/url]
Not all of the libraries install as dependancies. I had to add libmimedir and libhandoff. Then I had to download and install sqlite 2.8.17. It didn't show up in package manager after I added Xromer's feed. I have gotten everything to work except gpe-today. I think I read in another post that it is a no-go. In the other post Xromer said that he has moved to beta4. Don't think I'll join him
I downloaded cups and mrxvt from Meanie's feed and am trying to get them going. So far, mrxvt complains about missing fonts. Still fooling with cups.
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I want to create a comprehensive list of all apps available or zaurus, per distribution.
e.g. spreadsheet: pdaxrom: gnumeric; cacko: whatever...
here's my 2 cents:
Browsers: minimo (for encoding and javascript-challenging sites)
Email: Sylpheed or webmail
Text Editor: scite for development, leadpad and textedit !! textedit is great for simple formatting and save/load as HTML/txt.
PIM: there's no point in a scheduler if i can't trust the Z's clock (when battery runs flat)
PDF: i convert PDFs to HTML (pdftotext)
Dictionaries: i use less and a lookup script (http://zaffi.phpnet.us/zaurus/dictionaries/scripts/dict) i made. works perfect!
i found a collection of plain text tab-separated dictionaries (http://zaffi.phpnet.us/zaurus/dictionaries/).
IM: Gaim
Media Players: vlc, mplayer from the command line
Graphics: GQView, gpaint, mtpaint
File Managers: emelfm is great, "mortom commander" (midnight commander) in text-based.
Terminal: xterm with utf8 supprt and big fonts
Other Tools:
development: python, php, apache
audio recording: "shine" and a script (binary and wrapper script) (http://zaffi.phpnet.us/zaurus/audio-recording/)
information retrieval: a "locate" replacement i wrote, which drills down into archives, ipks, cramfs' etc, and help me search for files
language input: i switch between input methods with these scripts (http://zaffi.phpnet.us/zaurus/languages/) (keyboard-switch.sh is assign to a shortcut button). i mapped the hebrew keyboard and russian keyboards.
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This might be a little ridiculous, but this is mostly what I use for whatever that's worth.
Word Processing: emacs22 (mostly org-mode), tetex3, auctex, (trying to use OpenOffice more in PocketWorkstation), AbiWord consistenly amazes and disappoints me
handwriting mostly gimp-1.2, occassionally xournal (interface could use more keyboard support, but pdf support is awesome),
SpreadSheet: emac22 (org-mode mostly, occassionally ses or ess modes), rarely gnumeric (only when i need to open excel spreadsheets)
Presentation: OpenOffice Impress in PocketWorkstation (i don't like powerpoint slides at all, but lots of people do)
Calculations: Octave (in emacs), Maxima (in xterm), iMath-mode for emacs, (emacs calc), clisp, lush, python (rarely, but trying more), trying to get scilab and R working, wishing geda, ngspice and xcircuit would work, occassionally ti-emu
Browsers: dillo (mostly), firefox (less often), emacs22 (occasionally), konqueror (rarely)
Email: (trying to use emacs22)
Text Editor: emacs22, vim when in a pinch, (trying to use nano more)
PIM: emacs22 (org-mode mostly, agenda and calendar modes also), "cal" and "date" in torsmo, (KOPI/KAPI are pretty, but way too slow)
PDF:
-Viewing: mostly xpdf, (occassionally evince's dual page layout), rarely kpdf
-Creating: (esp-ghostscript, tetex3, imagemagick 6.30, emacs-muse-mode OpenOffice)
Dictionaries: just started using stardict, been meaning to download wikipedia for years
IM: (trying to use emacs22), occassionally gaim
Media Players: xmms, mplayer
Graphics Editing: gimp-1.2 for most bitmapping, (metapost and ps-tricks, for most vectors), gnuplot4.0 for most plotting, image-magick for everything else, especially screenshooting and batch-processing
Graphics Viewing:
-xzgv for most viewing because it's fast with a decent interface. (I read a lot of books and notes as image sequences in xzgv with bookmarks in emacs),
-sometimes i use "display" from imagemagick but this is a little bizarre,
-tumme-mode in emacs uses imagemagick as its backend, but this is too slow
-occasionally i use gqview (the "edit with gimp" option is cool), but it's slow and difficult to size. This works nice on the desktop for me, but not the palmtop
- qcomicbook seems like it should be so cool, but it's too slow and cumbersome for me
File Managers: emacs22 (dired,eshell,shell modes) (sometimes I use ROX, but I don't like it as much as I could)
Terminal: often emacs22 (eshell and shell modes, or just plain elisp) more often xterm (thanks again meanie), torsmo is a great permanent terminal for top, etc
Wishlist:
- gutenprint and preconfigured CUPS
- scilab
- gnu common lisp
- geda, ngspice, and xcircuit that work for me
- native gcc 2.9.5
- native gcc with fortran and java
- X11R7
- 2.6 kernel without all the bugs
- lilo bootloader
- purely native open office
- faster auto-resized inkscape
- mosix style clustering
- more support for pocketworkstation (i'm trying to boot into X with this)
Miscellaneous Comments
-xkeymouse and ratpoison would be nice to learn
-trying to find a good sampler (like fruityloops)
-trying to find a good multitrack-recorder (still haven't tried khd-record)
- trying to theme xfce4-panel or find something that themes easier, but still runs as fast (probably pypanel?)
- nice to see there's other emacs users here, the program is truly amazing
- my most sincere thanks to all of you other zaurus and *nix users who continuously amaze me with what is possible
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Word Processing/Spreadsheet: none
Browsers: dillo, firefox, links
Email: pine
Text editor: nano, leafpad, emacs
PIM: emacs planner-mode
PDF: xpdf
IM: gaim
File Manager: rox
Media: mplayer, emms (emacs)
Terminal: aterm
FTP: gftp
Other Tools: ratpoison, xkeymouse (i rarely use the stylus), torsmo, homebank, portabase