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Everything Else => General Support and Discussion => Zaurus General Forums => Archived Forums => Software => Topic started by: eji on January 06, 2007, 06:51:20 am
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Well, the title of this thread is my question. Is KDE PIM/Pi dead? There have been no updates (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103) since the 2.2.7 testing version from October 2005, the Pi-Sync site (http://www.pi-sync.net/) has had no news since August 2005, and the KDE PIM/Pi thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12034&st=300) on these forums hasn't had any activity since March 2006.
This was one of the most useful apps on my Z, and I suppose I expected it to keep getting better and better and work out all its kinks. There was a promising flurry of activity just before it lost all signs of life. New versions seemed to be coming out every week. And now... nothing.
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There is another thread discussing this here: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21749 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21749)
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Which also doesn't answer the question of whether or not there is continuing development of KO/Pi and/or KA/Pi. The other thread turned in to a slobbering fanboy thread talking about synchronization. If anyone knows whether KO/Pi and or KA/Pi will be developed further, I and others would like to know.
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I'd like to know too, this is best suite of its kind i've found that I like for my zaurus.
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I'd like to know too, this is best suite of its kind i've found that I like for my zaurus.
You got that right, liquidtheguy!!
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I had some contact with the author, zautrix, a.k.a. Lutz Rogoswki, shortly before he stopped the development. I have discussed many ideas for improvements and also some bugs with him, and he announced new versions, even with better Outlook sync capabilitities. Unfortunately, something made him stop the further development. There must be some new code for Outlook sync in his hands, but he never released it :-(
So my point of view is that developemnt is dead currently.
But hey, it is open source, so everyone is entitled to improve the programs!
daniel
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yea, I wish someone that knows what they were doing would take this program on. At least maybe just some bug fixes or minor features. I guess in the meantime I'll try to get an environment set up so I can cross compile to my Z.
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Talking about which, is there any way to disable some feature so that it can be lighter and less cluttered?
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Is the site gone already? It's empty and the domain is for sale now...
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Is the site gone already? It's empty and the domain is for sale now...
The files and source were still at Sourceforge the last time I looked. Which was two minutes ago!
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Whoever picks up the development of this - please, please add an autosave feature to all the modules. TIA.
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and FYI use the project page on Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/)
Not http://kdepimpi.sf.net (http://kdepimpi.sf.net)
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I had some contact with the author, zautrix, a.k.a. Lutz Rogoswki, shortly before he stopped the development. I have discussed many ideas for improvements and also some bugs with him, and he announced
Could you please contact me privately with contact information for Lutz Rogoswki? I've tried to get in touch with him, without any response.
new versions, even with better Outlook sync capabilitities. Unfortunately, something made him stop the further development. There must be some new code for Outlook sync in his hands, but he never released it :-(
So my point of view is that developemnt is dead currently.
Not entirely dead. I'm maintaining directly%20to%20me%20via%20email (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/%5d"a%20site%20dedicated%20to%20updating%20KDEPIMPI%20and%20porting%20it%20to%20the%20Nokia%20Internet%20Tablet%20(Maemo)%20linux%20environment%5b/url%5d.I%20am%20actively%20seeking%20a%20developer%20who%20is%20interested%20in%20improving%20the%20package%20further.%20Of%20course,%20I'd%20like%20to%20see%20that%20the%20package%20preserve%20one%20of%20it's%20great%20strengths--the%20ability%20to%20run%20on%20Linux%20desktops,%20handhelds,%20and%20Windows%20systems,%20so%20any%20changes%20would%20be%20available%20to%20all.%20I%20do%20not%20check%20these%20forums%20regularly,%20but%20I%20am%20very%20interested%20in%20getting%20bug%20reports,%20feature%20requests,%20etc.%20for%20kdepimpi.%20Please%20submit%20information%20on%20the%20Maemo%20Garage%20website%20or%20[a%20href=)
I%20am%20offering%20a%20free%20SL-6000L%20with%20many%20accessories%20to%20help%20interest%20a%20developer%20in%20the%20project.
Michael%20Klever%20made%20some%20changes%20to%20KDEPIMPI,%20including%20getting%20it%20into%20the%20bitbake%20build%20mechanism.
I've%20taken%20his%20changes,%20and%20released%20a%20%5bvery%20beta%5d%20version%20of%20KDEPIMPI%20for%20the%20Nokia%20Internet%20Tablet%20(the%20successor%20to%20my%20Zaurus%20SL6000).%20This%20version%20has%20some%20rough%20edges,%20and%20contains%20no%20substantial%20changes%20over%20the%202.2.7%20release,%20but%20it%20does%20work%20on%20both%20the%20desktop%20and%20Nokia%20Tablet.%20The%20source%20code%20is%20available%20at%20the%20%5burl="https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/\" target=\"_blank\"]Maemo Garage website for KDEPIMPI[/a]. The code needs some changes make it fully workable on the Nokia Tablet. Once that happens, there will be a new group of users and potential developers to support the project.
But hey, it is open source, so everyone is entitled to improve the programs!
Absolutely!
daniel
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reposted reply due to utterly mangled formatting in the first attempt.
I had some contact with the author, zautrix, a.k.a. Lutz Rogoswki, shortly before he stopped the development. I have discussed many ideas for improvements and also some bugs with him, and he announced new versions, even with better Outlook sync capabilitities. Unfortunately, something made him stop the further development. There must be some new code for Outlook sync in his hands, but he never released it :-(
Could you please send me Lutz Rogoswki's contact info privately ()? I've tried to reach him several times about the project.
So my point of view is that developemnt is dead currently.
Not entirely dead. I'm maintaining a site for updating KDEPIMPI and porting it
to the Nokia Internet Tablet (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/) Linux distribution.
I am offering a free SL-6000L with many accessories to help interest a developer in the project (https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25678&hl=).
Michael Klever made some changes to KDEPIMPI, including getting it into the bitbake build mechanism used by Angstrom.
I've taken his changes, and released a [very beta] version of KDEPIMPI for the Nokia Internet Tablet (the successor to my Zaurus SL6000). This version has some rough edges, and contains no substantial changes over the 2.2.7 release, but it does work on both the desktop and Nokia Tablet. The source code is available at the Maemo Garage website for KDEPIMPI (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/). The code needs some changes make it fully workable on the Nokia Tablet. Once that happens, there will be a new group of users and potential developers to support the project.
But hey, it is open source, so everyone is entitled to improve the programs!
daniel
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KDE-Pim/Pi is not dead and will never die.
But for me KDE-Pim/Pi is currently almost feature complete.
Such that I am doing not much development.
I added some fixes and features to the 2.2.7 version.
All that changes are released in the cvs during the last years.
But I did not upload a new binary version.
(Yes, I know: I was lazy. )
I just uploaded a new version 2.2.9 for Sharp Rom.
z.
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I've taken his changes, and released a [very beta] version of KDEPIMPI for the Nokia Internet Tablet (the successor to my Zaurus SL6000). This version has some rough edges, and contains no substantial changes over the 2.2.7 release, but it does work on both the desktop and Nokia Tablet. The source code is available at the Maemo Garage website for KDEPIMPI (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/). The code needs some changes make it fully workable on the Nokia Tablet. Once that happens, there will be a new group of users and potential developers to support the project.
I think we should avoid forks here. Is it ok to send your patch to Zautrix or ask Zautrix to add you to the sourceforge project.
For the record, I'm also interested in the KDEPIMPI development. And I will try keep it up-to-date in Angstrom.
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KDE-Pim/Pi is not dead and will never die.
But for me KDE-Pim/Pi is currently almost feature complete.
Such that I am doing not much development.
I added some fixes and features to the 2.2.7 version.
All that changes are released in the cvs during the last years.
But I did not upload a new binary version.
(Yes, I know: I was lazy. )
I just uploaded a new version 2.2.9 for Sharp Rom.
z.
That's great new, zautrix and good to hear from you....
THANKS for 2.2.9!!
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KDE-Pim/Pi is not dead and will never die.
But for me KDE-Pim/Pi is currently almost feature complete.
Such that I am doing not much development.
I added some fixes and features to the 2.2.7 version.
All that changes are released in the cvs during the last years.
But I did not upload a new binary version.
(Yes, I know: I was lazy. )
I just uploaded a new version 2.2.9 for Sharp Rom.
z.
That's great new, zautrix and good to hear from you....
THANKS for 2.2.9!!
Wow! Thanks so much!
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I'm really happy to hear that the project isn't dead, and that there's a new version available!
I've taken his changes, and released a [very beta] version of KDEPIMPI for the Nokia Internet Tablet (the successor to my Zaurus SL6000). This version has some rough edges, and contains no substantial changes over the 2.2.7 release, but it does work on both the desktop and Nokia Tablet. The source code is available at the Maemo Garage website for KDEPIMPI (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/). The code needs some changes make it fully workable on the Nokia Tablet. Once that happens, there will be a new group of users and potential developers to support the project.
I think we should avoid forks here. Is it ok to send your patch to Zautrix or ask Zautrix to add you to the sourceforge project.
Absolutely! I agree on both points. I did not want to fork kdepimpi...in fact, I've tried to get in touch with Zautrix before I set up the Maemo Garage site.
I would be very happy to contribute my mimimal changes back to the main source code branch...though Michael Krelin did most of the work, including an angstrom port.
Ideally, we can continue this via email. I'd like to discuss the details of getting the code from the Maemo Garage site back to the sourceforge site directly with Zautrix.
For the record, I'm also interested in the KDEPIMPI development. And I will try keep it up-to-date in Angstrom.
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Hello Lutz,
what a surprise to hear from you! It's great to see that KDEPIM/PI is still - well - maintained (if not "actively under development" anymore).
The vanishing of pi-sync.net and the fact that version 2.2.7 now is almost 3 years old suggested that you dropped the project entirely.
How about the sync features?
As far as I understood, you intended to make KDEPIM/PI compatible with a lot of sync partners, also using SyncML, and also with Outlook.
Any plans for KO/PI Outlook sync under Windows?
I must admit I have switched to outlook and Windows Smartphone for the PIM stuff now, this is necessary for me for my work, and I actually hate it. OTOH I don't want to maintain more than one calendar / todo list etc., so I switched away from KO/PI, although I really, really liked it (as you know :-).
Having outlook sync would again allow useds like me to use KO/PI while not having to maintain different calendars.
And thanks for 2.2.9! Will anyone compile it for pdaXrom? :-)
Thanks
daniel
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I'm really happy to hear that the project isn't dead, and that there's a new version available!
I've taken his changes, and released a [very beta] version of KDEPIMPI for the Nokia Internet Tablet (the successor to my Zaurus SL6000). This version has some rough edges, and contains no substantial changes over the 2.2.7 release, but it does work on both the desktop and Nokia Tablet. The source code is available at the Maemo Garage website for KDEPIMPI (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kdepimpi/). The code needs some changes make it fully workable on the Nokia Tablet. Once that happens, there will be a new group of users and potential developers to support the project.
I think we should avoid forks here. Is it ok to send your patch to Zautrix or ask Zautrix to add you to the sourceforge project.
Absolutely! I agree on both points. I did not want to fork kdepimpi...in fact, I've tried to get in touch with Zautrix before I set up the Maemo Garage site.
I would be very happy to contribute my mimimal changes back to the main source code branch...though Michael Krelin did most of the work, including an angstrom port.
Ideally, we can continue this via email. I'd like to discuss the details of getting the code from the Maemo Garage site back to the sourceforge site directly with Zautrix.
For the record, I'm also interested in the KDEPIMPI development. And I will try keep it up-to-date in Angstrom.
Hi!
I got your PM and I will contact you via email today.
z.
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Hello Lutz,
what a surprise to hear from you! It's great to see that KDEPIM/PI is still - well - maintained (if not "actively under development" anymore).
The vanishing of pi-sync.net and the fact that version 2.2.7 now is almost 3 years old suggested that you dropped the project entirely.
How about the sync features?
As far as I understood, you intended to make KDEPIM/PI compatible with a lot of sync partners, also using SyncML, and also with Outlook.
Any plans for KO/PI Outlook sync under Windows?
I must admit I have switched to outlook and Windows Smartphone for the PIM stuff now, this is necessary for me for my work, and I actually hate it. OTOH I don't want to maintain more than one calendar / todo list etc., so I switched away from KO/PI, although I really, really liked it (as you know :-).
Having outlook sync would again allow useds like me to use KO/PI while not having to maintain different calendars.
And thanks for 2.2.9! Will anyone compile it for pdaXrom? :-)
Thanks
daniel
Hi Daniel!
I gave up to support many sync partners because the interfaces are changing all the time and if I implement a solution which works today perhaps will not work with the next version...
I have a smart phone as well which I am syncing with Outlook. Because the most important data on a smartphone are the contacts for me I implemented the KA/Pi Outlook sync.
To implement the syncing of KO/Pi with Outlook is not complicated for the syncing itself.
It is complicated to implement a solution for all the different recurring rules which makes sense.
Such that I cannot say when I will implement a KO/Pi <-> Outlook sync.
The KA/Pi <-> Outlook sync will be available when I upload the new version for windows - maybe in 1-4 weeks.
z.