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Model Specific Forums => Sharp Zaurus => Zaurus - pdaXrom => Topic started by: danboid on January 07, 2007, 06:11:12 am
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This is an unofficial method of installing pdaXii13 5.3b full on a c3100 or c3200 as first discovered by Archimark.
Note that there is now a pdaXii13 Akita (codename Sally) which is a bug fixed and improved pdaXrom b3 for c1000, c3100 and c3200 models which in the future may let you upgrade to pdaXii13 full by storing /usr on the Microdrive but this install method isn't known to be working currently. pdaXii13 Akita is unsupported by Meanie and the pdaXrom team have moved onto a kernel 2.6 based distro.
Neither Meanie, Archimark, myself or anybody else will take any responsibility for any damage or loss of data that may arise as a result of following these instructions. You follow these instructions entirely at your own risk! Make sure to read all the bugs (it is not perfect yet - it has a 10m+ boot time for one) and that you know how to get restore a working OS in case you find you can't switch or prefer Sharp/Cacko/OZ. If you have any corrections let me know and I'll update this post.
pdaXii13 5.3b full installation on c3100/c3200
c3100 (and c3200) owners must use v0.25 of the pdaXii13 updater.sh and build 15 of updater-tools.bin which are available on the pdaXii13 alpha/beta page here
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/)
In addition to having all the files required to install pdaXii13 on a c3000, you will also need pdaXrom beta3, which you can download from
http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta...beta3-akita.zip (http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta3/Zaurus-Cxx00/kathrin-1.1.0beta3-akita.zip)
Install that first as per the instructions on the pdaXrom.org site. I don't think it matters what size you flash the NAND to, the point is just to get b3 installed before pdaXii13, but I'd recommend going for the maximum size of 121 and why not?
Then install pdaXii13 as per Meanies instructions for c3000 but you need to install the kernel and bootloader TWICE, once before and one after installing the hdimage.
Reboot and enjoy the joys of having a full, truly portable Linux workstation!
BUGS in 5.3b, using this install method (i.e on 3100/3200 only)
1. On the initial boot after install, it will pause and the MD light will flash for around 15 minutes just after it says
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
On subsequent boots it pauses on this message for a while, 5-10m.
2. Shortly after that it will produce a few, if not a few hundred
invalidate:dirty buffer
errors but Meanie says these are harmless
BUGS PRESENT ON pdaXii13 C3000 5.3b ALSO
1. xmms doesn't work as it needs libXau to be installed. You can fix this by typing
ipkg install libXau
if you have a wifi card and connection working on your Z
2. CAPS LOCK doesn't work in a default install and if you uncomment it in /etc/X11/kb/spitz.xmodmap then pushing the TAB key has the effect of both TAB and switching CAPS LOCK at the same time.
3. There are some unwanted keybindings remaining (in the openbox config file /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml I think) which could cause problems to those using USB keyboards. Below is a list of USB keys and their current actions under 5.2
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KEY | ACTION
Alt_Gr (Right Alt) | Starts Stardict
Right Windows Key | Starts rox
Print Screen | Starts xmms
F5 | Starts mrxvt
F6 | Startx xmms
F7 | Starts rox
F9 | Starts dillo
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ESSENTIAL TIPS
* Uninstall all the scim packages if you don't need Chinese input support! I used a stopwatch to time how long gnumeric took to load- it took 34s when it had to load scim and only SEVEN seconds to load when I uninstalled scim! Just turning off SCIM support in the pdaXii13 config file isn't enough.
* If you want to change the font size of GTK2 based apps like rox, abiword, gthumb, gnumeric (most X apps used under pdaXrom are GTK2 based) then use the 'GTK Theme Switch' app under the System Tools menu. You will need to click the blue plus sign next to the theme name, check the 'Use font' box which will appear and then click 'Browse' to choose your font. To change the other font sizes (like the menu) you can use the Look and Feel apps (again under System Tools menu) Icon+Text tab.
* To set up a dial-up internet connection, open a terminal and run pppconfig. I have used a standard USB to serial adapter cable with my c3000 to attach it to an analogue serial modem and to get it to work I had to use '/dev/ttyUSB0' for the device name, 'ATZ' for the init string and set the speed to 57600 under pppconfigs modem settings. After setting ppp up you can connect with the pppdialer app under the internet menu.
TO ADD/DUNNO LIST
Working instructions for upgrading pdaXii13 Akita to use the hdimage
A comparison of the two pdaXii13 full install methods for c3100/c3200 owners (when they both work)
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I updated the above guide this morning to correct a couple of mistakes and clarify a couple of things.
Has nobody else tried installing pdaXii13 on c3100 with any success, using my method or otherwise? Had any different results to what I've reported here?
Meanie:
I know you're aiming to get pdaXii13 stable on c3000 first but do you plan to get it running well on c3100 (and possibly c3200) too?
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Has nobody else tried installing pdaXii13 on c3100 with any success, using my method or otherwise? Had any different results to what I've reported here?
I have installed pdaXii13 on my c3100 with success, but haven't had time until now to do any extensive testing. I will try to reproduce the items you have mentioned above and report back.
My install howerver was different. I did a standard pdaXrom Beta3 install first. Then used the old updater.sh from http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/updater.sh (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/updater.sh) and did a standard install using the 5.2 full package, no file replacements.
WiFi worked, Gaim and Firefox worked, and AbiWord worked. But that is as far as I had gotten testing.
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Hmm
I tried installing using
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/updater.sh (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/updater.sh)
Which is also numbered 0.23 but maybe they are different? They're the same filesize.
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My install howerver was different. I did a standard pdaXrom Beta3 install first. Then used the old updater.sh from http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/updater.sh (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/updater.sh) and did a standard install using the 5.2 full package, no file replacements.
I was able to install finally (after unsuccessful trials since Christmas) pdaxii13 on my 3200.
Exactly as shown above
1)reflashed pdaxrom3 beta (with kernel for 3200)
2)replaced the files for pdaxii13 on SD root
3) started flashing (OK+power) - japan menu 4, Y, Y to get installer of pdaxii13
4) partitioned microdrive to 3 partitions as recommended by Meanie
5) used option marked as flashing pdaxii13 - (but it takes only short time as it does not flash kernel - using updater.sh 0.23 - BTW the version 0.24 is not available anymore neither on alpha page (pdaXii13/tmp) nor on stable (pdaXii13/files)
6) installed hdimage_all.tgz using next installer option
7) rebooted
after LONG time it started X and system was there !
I have used release 5.2 alpha that was at http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/)
For me do work Fn keys (*..) , zoom (japan key left from - and 1,2)...
Most applications started well (but I did not have time to test every applications in detail)
SD card 2GB works from scratch (it did not work on pdax3 beta) - so the new SD driver is directly in pdaxii13
I did not test Planex wifi yet...
What I miss most is mc (Midnight commander)
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I also tried the same method you two used- installing beta3 then installing pdaXii13 on top of it but using the c3000 kernel I got some error about not finding rootfs I think it was. I wouldn't have thought different partitioning would've made a difference (would it? Did you have your drive partitioned for Cacko/Sharp when you installed beta3? Have I got to partition my MD that way first?) as when I installed beta3 my MD was partitioned ready for pdaXii13 already but the b3 installer didn't seem to have any problem with that.
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Iusing the c3000 kernel I got some error about not finding rootfs I think it was.
Yes it was the problem I remained stucked for a long time
Exactly the first problem was pdaxrom3 beta + pdaxii13 files complained about
"init" problem as it was described some time ago.
As I understand Meanie had worked to correct this for non-3000 machines by changes in initrd stuff and recently he had changed updater.sh to version 24 that did not ignore SL3200 -
I remember that this time it really started flashing the NAND with kernel 2.4.20-bin
but then it complained about the nonexistant NAND and no rootfs (as you mention)
Meanie explained this by the kernel hardcoded size of NAND as he put the 3000 kernel on pdaxii13 stable and tmp distro.
maybe I am wrong but I think everything was corrected by replacing the correct kernel (3100/3200 from pdaxrom3 beta distro in the root of SD.
So it probably would work from the scratch (Sharp, cacko) using that replaced kernel AND updater 0.24 (which realy started flashing).
Alternative solution as taken by me is to use updater 0.23 (that ignores the real kernel flashing)
having already flashed the 3200/3100 kernel from previous pdaxrom beta3 installator.
(I could not find updater 0.24 anymore and I have ereased it from SD already)
I do not think partitioning scheme plays any role - in fact it requires only the one partition large enough to host the uncompressed hdimage_full stuff.
I wouldn't have thought different partitioning would've made a difference (would it? Did you have your drive partitioned for Cacko/Sharp when you installed beta3?
Have I got to partition my MD that way first?) as when I installed beta3 my MD was partitioned ready for pdaXii13 already but the b3 installer didn't seem to have any problem with that.
yes no problem I have flashed about 5 times pdaxii13 and pdaxrom3 beta having the partitions intact since first experiments with first hdimage_full (somewhere about 11 December)
To summarize I think that for the future installation recipe there should be prepared 3 sets of files
(for 3000/3100/3200 separately)
pdaxii13+hdimage-full.tgz 5.2 + kernel for appropriate model (from pdaxrom beta3) renamed to zImage-2.4.20.bin + updater v 0.24 !!
and people probably could start directly flashing pdaxii13 after sharp immediately
But its my feeling only - someone should test it
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Thanks for explaining that ajnstajn!
I don't think I ever tried updater.sh 0.24 as I skipped pdaXii13 0.5.1 which must've been the one that had that version.
Anyone got a copy of 0.24 so I can try this out?
Thanks!
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BUGS in 5.2
1. On first boot X will normally start in QVGA mode. You can fix this by quitting and restarting X from the menu or running
xrandr -s 0
From a console
2. A few keys aren't working properly under X
TAB both tabs and changes caps lock when you push it - causes havoc if you try using command complete in an X console!
Fn key doesn't work (so no *, +, = etc. keys)
CTRL and ALT seem to work but the key that is to the left of the - key doesn't seem to work as the '- and 1' or '- and 2' to switch resolution key combo doesn't work, nor can you alter the brightness with the keys.
3. According to df /dev/hda1 gets mounted twice - this also happens on c3000 with the normal pdaXii13 kernel under 5.2. Is this the cause of the disk corruption?
4. You will get the error
Unknown flash (not normal NAND)
Straight after it says 'Welcome to pdaXii13 on Sharp Zaurus' four times on boot
5. There is no Internal Storage option in the USB settings tool
6. Matchbox panel seems to forget most of the apps/launchers added to the panel by the user after rebooting
7. Graphical CPU config tool doesn't start
Ok, tested out the above...
1) Was not able to reproduce this. Resolution has always been VGA for me.
2) Tab Key : Works as a tab only, and I can NOT get it to turn on caps as stated under mrxvt, aterm, or rxvt.
Function Key : works fine, I get all the special characters no problem.
Key next to - : Works fine also, both brightness and resolution can be changed by holding this key and hitting the appropriate number.
3) According to df /dev/hda1 gets mounted twice : This is true, and the same for /dev/hda3 if you had that partition.
4) I got no such message about nand after pdaXii13 welcome. However a couple hundred lines of "Invalidate: dirty buffer" just before does show up. Not to mention due to those lines it takes about 9 minutes for the zaurus to boot.
5) Not true for me, both compact flash device 0 and 1 both SHOW as available.
6) Untested
7) Works for me, and it seems to be functional.
I am attaching the updater.sh that I used (just remove the txt extension). So far very happy, suspend/resume works (even wakes back up my wifi), all apps have run that I've tried. Keep in mind this updater needs the standard pdaXrom 3beta to be flashed first.
Let me know if anyone would like more tested, and I'll post if I come across any wierdness.
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TheWalt:
Apart from one instance, I would agree with your diagnosis of my bugs for your installation but those bugs I listed are exclusive to the install method I detailed above it and don't apply to the setup that you (and now I ) have, as detailed by Archimark in the c3200 thread.
The one where I differ is with the USB settings tool. The storage options should be
Secure Digital (SD)
Compact Flash (CF)
Internal Storage
but instead I currently have
Secure Digital (SD)
Compact Flash (CF 0,1)
Compact Flash (CF 0,2)
Compact Flash (CF) 0,3
Compact Flash (CF) 1,1
Compact Flash (CF) 1,2
Compact Flash (CF) 1,3
This reminds me of the bug in Linux that when you plug a c3x00 into a Linux PC via USB you get 7 or so windows of the same drive so this could be related somehow.
More importantly though is the fact that you can't save or alter any files on hda1 and retain changes over a reboot- for example try changing the pdaXii13 config file to turn the splash screen and sounds off, save your changes and reboot. After rebooting you will probably find that the config file is back to how it was when you installed pdaX. This flaw has prevented me getting my wifi card working as whenever I copy the hex files I need for my PLANEX card into /etc/pcmcia/firmware they are gone after reboot and I just get an IO error if I try looking into that dir.
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Apart from one instance, I would agree with your diagnosis of my bugs for your installation but those bugs I listed are exclusive to the install method I detailed above it and don't apply to the setup that you (and now I ) have, as detailed by Archimark in the c3200 thread.
Super
The one where I differ is with the USB settings tool. The storage options should be
Secure Digital (SD)
Compact Flash (CF)
Internal Storage
but instead I currently have
Secure Digital (SD)
Compact Flash (CF 0,1)
Compact Flash (CF 0,2)
Compact Flash (CF) 0,3
Compact Flash (CF) 1,1
Compact Flash (CF) 1,2
Compact Flash (CF) 1,3
As the internal microdrive is really just attached to a CF slot, so I think I must not understand the issue here (unless you mean the nand flash internal storage). As the drivers are setup device 0 is internal, 1 is external. And 0,1 means partition 1 of internal CF slot.. 0,2 partition 2 .. 0,3 partition 3 and so on for the external. Thus if I wanted to usb connect my fat partition which is on partition 3, I would just select Compact Flash (CF 0,3) and it works fine.
More importantly though is the fact that you can't save or alter any files on hda1 and retain changes over a reboot- for example try changing the pdaXii13 config file to turn the splash screen and sounds off, save your changes and reboot.
I will give this a try and report back.
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Do you think it's possible to install Cacko on the flash, and pdaxii13 on the microdrive, and switch between them, depending on what you need? Sometimes I really miss the speed of Cacko, but the features pdaXrom gives me, making zaurus like a laptop, are best as functionality when needed.
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kkazakov13:
Wouldn't that be fantastic if we could! I wasn't planning on using my NAND for anything special under pdaXii13 so it would be great if c3100/c3200 could use uboot to dual boot between the two. I've not installed uboot yet so I dunno how it works but I really like the idea! Meanie, Koen?
EDIT
Wahey! pdaXii13 has magically decided to work for me now on c3100 in that files don't disappear off hda1 when I reboot! I'll update the above install instructions shortly- I'm presuming it will be the same method for installing the upcoming pdaXii13 on c3100
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I'm definately installing Cacko now, and then trying to custom install pdaxii13 on microdrive, in order to check if I can dual boot somehow If it works, will post how to do it.
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kkazakov13:
The problem you will have right now is that to get pdaXii13 installed properly on c3100/c3200 you first need to install pdaXrom b3 which will be hogging the NAND space we'd like to use cacko for. Somebody would probably need to modify the pdaXii13 installer to work properly on these machines without requiring b3 be installed first, and probably add uboot support to it too.
I wish you the best of luck - keep us posted on your progress!
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I'm definately installing Cacko now, and then trying to custom install pdaxii13 on microdrive, in order to check if I can dual boot somehow If it works, will post how to do it.
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you do know that there is pdaXQtrom which runs most pdaXrom applications but can run at the same time as Cacko so no rebooting is required.
[a href=\"http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html]http://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html[/url]
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Meanie: Yes, I know, thanks - but no thanks. This thing is really damn slow. I don't want this. I want to separate them.
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Wahey! pdaXii13 has magically decided to work for me now on c3100 in that files don't disappear off hda1 when I reboot! I'll update the above install instructions shortly- I'm presuming it will be the same method for installing the upcoming pdaXii13 on c3100
After doing some tests my unit still has the disappearing files issue, just to confirm the previously stated bug. Sorry it took so late to get back, been busy.
Looking forward to the 'fix'
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UPDATE
Just updated post #1 in this thread with Archmark's pdaXii13 install method, its associated bugs, highlighted the availability of pdaXii13 akita and added some questions for Meanie and other pdaXii13 full on c3100/c3200 users
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Has anybody successfully installed pdaXii13 Akita with the full hdimage on a C3100 or C3200? How did you do it?
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I've just updated the install instructions in post #1 of this thread to reflect the current status of pdaXii13.
As soon as I know how to install pdaXii13 Akita with the hdimage-full upgrade then I'll update it again.
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I updated the c3100 pdaXii13 install instructions again to include the fact that c3100 and c3200 owners need to use the latest revisions of the install files.
Antikx (if you're reading this)
I think I remember you saying you were keeping a copy of these install instructions on tz? If so could you please update it now. I think these install instructions are pretty much complete now and won't need to be updated until/unless someone gets the pdaXii13 Akita version fixed to use a hdimage successfully.
Thanks!
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Thanks for taking the time to do this for everyone, danboid!
Mark
I updated the c3100 pdaXii13 install instructions again to include the fact that c3100 and c3200 owners need to use the latest revisions of the install files.
Antikx (if you're reading this)
I think I remember you saying you were keeping a copy of these install instructions on tz? If so could you please update it now. I think these install instructions are pretty much complete now and won't need to be updated until/unless someone gets the pdaXii13 Akita version fixed to use a hdimage successfully.
Thanks!
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I installed latest version on my 3100 using instructions from 1st post. It works, but I find that it hangs on that messg: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode for at least 10 minutes on each reboot, very annoying.
Also, there don't seem to be any hostap drivers so my Ambicom 1100 card doesn't work (won't work with orinoco drivers either)
I guess it's back to to the latest version of pdaXrom & GPE for me. I like the tweaks Meanie has done, but I gotta have wireless.
Cheers,
Jerry
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FWIW, my Ambicom 1100 card works fine with pdaXii13, v5.2 on my 3200, jerrybeme!
Maybe, you should try reinstalling pdaXii13 one more time and see what happens...
HTH,
Mark
I installed latest version on my 3100 using instructions from 1st post. It works, but I find that it hangs on that messg: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode for at least 10 minutes on each reboot, very annoying.
Also, there don't seem to be any hostap drivers so my Ambicom 1100 card doesn't work (won't work with orinoco drivers either)
I guess it's back to to the latest version of pdaXrom & GPE for me. I like the tweaks Meanie has done, but I gotta have wireless.
Cheers,
Jerry
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Antikx (if you're reading this)
I think I remember you saying you were keeping a copy of these install instructions on tz? If so could you please update it now. I think these install instructions are pretty much complete now and won't need to be updated until/unless someone gets the pdaXii13 Akita version fixed to use a hdimage successfully.
Thanks!
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Done: [a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/ZaurusKnowledgeBase/SoftwareKnowledgebase/Pdaxii13]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/Zauru...gebase/Pdaxii13[/url]
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I just installed pdaxii13 on my C3200 after installing pdaXrom 1.1.0b3
When it finally booted to the welcome screen, the calibration screen flashed by in just a few seconds and then closed.
It acted like it was calibrating automatically, but failed to calibrate anything.
Now I'm trying to get the calibration screen back up. I got to input settings under system tools, and there is a place to check "Recalibrate stylus on next start of window manager"
I cannot place a checkmark in the box, what is the keyboard shortcut for placing a checkmark in a selection box?
The space key works in windows, but not in this instance.
My stylus is so far off it's mark, I cannot use it.
EDIT: I got it working.
I restarted and recalibrated the screen. I was having probs making the spacebar place a checkmark in the selection box.
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How can I get USB storage to make my internal hard drive available when I hook up to my windows box?
The "USB Settings" application only has 2 choices. SD or CF (CF means removable CF card only)
When I installed pdaxii13, I used the "Recommended partitioning" during the install process.
I also followed the instructions by the book, and when it says to format your remaining partitions, they were already formated.
My hda3 is shown as /dev/hda3 mounted on /data type vfat (rw,noatime,nosuid,nodev)
I did search for "USB storage", but since someone here has it in their signature, the search didn't work.
Also, what do I need to do to get screen tap sounds to work like they did in Sharp/Cacko?
EDIT:
Another thing I noticed, the charge light on my C3200 (the amber one) never shuts off...
How do I know if my Zaurus is charging or if the charging circuit is constantly working?
I always leave my z's plugged in while I'm at home.
My C3100 with Cacko only displays the charge light when it needs a charge. It usually shuts off after a certain amount of time.
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Antikx and all potential pdaXii13 on C3100/c3200 users:
I just updated post #1 again with the fix for the Firefox/Flash bug and instructions on how to use the Z as a USB storage device under the BUGS section as well as a disclaimer and other bits of editing. Please update the instructions at one more time please Antikx- thanks!
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I installed latest version on my 3100 using instructions from 1st post. It works, but I find that it hangs on that messg: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode for at least 10 minutes on each reboot, very annoying.
Also, there don't seem to be any hostap drivers so my Ambicom 1100 card doesn't work (won't work with orinoco drivers either)
I guess it's back to to the latest version of pdaXrom & GPE for me. I like the tweaks Meanie has done, but I gotta have wireless.
Cheers,
Jerry
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hi there ...
What are the symptoms when you plug in the card? Any led lights?
Try giving us the output of "cardctl ident" and "cardctl status", maybe we can help fix the wifi.
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Danboid, you mention this update on the first page.
3. To mount your vfat hda3 partition as a USB disk, choose the device
Compact Flash (0,3)
under the USB settings tool. This option is the equivalent of what would show up as 'Internal Storage' on a c3000
How do I choose Compact Flash (0,3) in the USB settings tool?
My only selections are Compact Flash and Secure Digital.
Where do I input the numbers (0,3) ?
If you are talking about mounting hda3 manually during the boot process, it's already mounted automatically.
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Hi Jon_J
On my c3100 pdaXii13 full install, under the USB settings tool I have 7 options- SD and 6 CF- Compact Flash (0.1), Compact Flash (0,2) ... (0,3) (1,1) (1,2) (1,3). I had your problem when I tried installing pdaXii13 on the c3100 using the b3 c3100 kernel instead of the c3000 one but I've not had that problem using the above installation method.
If all else fails you could try doing the whole thing over inc. resizing your NAND before installing b3 and formatting your vfat partition. /data is definitely being mounted on hda3 you say? I once had my vfat/3rd partition end up being hda4 which caused problems so I had to re-partition. I've used the above installation method successfully a few times now.
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Danboid, thank you for your reply.
I did resize my NAND to 121 when I first installed beta3.
my hda3 is mounted on /data as vfat.
Here's how I installed everything.
I installed beta3 and selected to change the root partition to 121mb
I then installed pdaxii13 (5.2) and selected the recommended hard drive partitioning.
I Installed kernel and bootloader
Then installed the full image
I Installed kernel and bootloader again after I installed the full image.
It looks like my NAND isn't being used at all if the below df -h is correct.
df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 2.0G 467.4M 1.5G 24% /
/dev/hda1 2.0G 467.4M 1.5G 24% /
none 12.0M 24.0k 12.0M 0% /dev
/dev/hda3 3.4G 2.0M 3.4G 0% /data
none 12.0M 24.0k 12.0M 0% /dev
/dev/mmcda1 1.9G 132.3M 1.8G 7% /mnt/card
mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on /media/realroot type jffs2 (rw)
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda3 on /data type vfat (rw,noatime,nosuid,nodev)
none on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
/dev/mmcda1 on /mnt/card type vfat (rw,noatime)
There is one thing that I don't want to do to any of my Zaurui. I don't want to repeatedly flash this new C3200.
That's why I bought a 2nd Zaurus, I wanted to flash it once or twice, and keep it that way.
EDIT
I added a screenshot of USB settings.
EDIT2
If my NAND isn't being used and everything is always running from the microdrive, is this why my charging light is constantly lit when plugged in?
The charging light never shuts off when my C3200 is on. (while using pdaxii13)
The charging light stays on for a long time once I suspend my C3200.
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If my NAND isn't being used and everything is always running from the microdrive, is this why my charging light is constantly lit when plugged in?
The charging light never shuts off when my C3200 is on. (while using pdaxii13)
The charging light stays on for a long time once I suspend my C3200.
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Not sure if you saw my post here: [a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/72#comment-462]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/72#comment-462[/url]
Also, I've never seen the charging light turn off when the Zaurus us powered on and power adapter is plugged in. I can't remember if it's the same with with Cacko and OZ but from your post I'm guessing that in Cacko it does turn off after a while.
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Antikx,
My charging light does turn off after a bit...
Not sure if you saw my post here: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/72#comment-462 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/72#comment-462)
Also, I've never seen the charging light turn off when the Zaurus us powered on and power adapter is plugged in. I can't remember if it's the same with with Cacko and OZ but from your post I'm guessing that in Cacko it does turn off after a while.
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My charging light never turns off when zaurus is on ... it was like this always. And at the end, the battery is never charged to the max, so to have it maxed, I need to suspend zaurus, and leave it like this for hour-two at least.
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Antikx,
My charging light does turn off after a bit...
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Really?
Just to be clear... you're charging light turns off after a bit when you're using it? Or when the Zaurus it powered off?
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Also, I've never seen the charging light turn off when the Zaurus us powered on and power adapter is plugged in. I can't remember if it's the same with with Cacko and OZ but from your post I'm guessing that in Cacko it does turn off after a while.
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In Cacko, the charging light only comes on when the battery needs charging. If I leave my Cacko Zaurus always plugged in, the charging light hardly lights up.
When I turn on my Cacko Zaurus, the charge light stays on for just a short time. I just turned it on now and the charging light and onscreen indicator showed a charging state for about 10 seconds, then it turned off.
If I take this Z to another room and plug it into my other charger, the light comes on briefly, and the Cacko battery indicator shows that it is charging. It only stays on for a short time though.
All three of my chargers are OEM Sharp 5 V / 2 Amp chargers.
I haven't used either of my Zaurui on battery power since last summer. That was the last time I took my C3100 with me on a short trip.
BTW, has anyone figured out how to get USB storage working on the vfat hdd3? (or hda 3) depending what you want to call it.
This should be fixable without having to resort to reflashing the entire system.....
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Yes...
and
Yes...
As Jon_J explained in more detail, light is on when battery is being charged (with AC adaptor plugged in...) otherwise is off.....
HTH,
Mark
Antikx,
My charging light does turn off after a bit...
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Really?
Just to be clear... you're charging light turns off after a bit when you're using it? Or when the Zaurus it powered off?
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Yes...
and
Yes...
As Jon_J explained in more detail, light is on when battery is being charged (with AC adaptor plugged in...) otherwise is off.....
HTH,
Mark
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Interesting.
Even though you are using pdaXii13 like us you seem to be having the experience of Cacko users. I'm going off our signature, so I could be mistaken and you are indeed using Cacko.
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Hasn't anyone figured out how to get USB storage mode working on a 3100/3200 with pdaxii13 yet?
I really do think that 4GB vfat partition should be accessible from a windows machine.
I don't want to have to keep using a card as a go-between to get files from my PC to my microdrive.
USB networking is much slower than USB drive mode, and I prefer not to go that route.
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Hasn't anyone figured out how to get USB storage mode working on a 3100/3200 with pdaxii13 yet?
I really do think that 4GB vfat partition should be accessible from a windows machine.
I don't want to have to keep using a card as a go-between to get files from my PC to my microdrive.
USB networking is much slower than USB drive mode, and I prefer not to go that route.
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It works fine for me. Just like Danboid I have 7 options under USB storage. This is on a 3100.
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I am using pdaXii13, Antikx....
Yes...
and
Yes...
As Jon_J explained in more detail, light is on when battery is being charged (with AC adaptor plugged in...) otherwise is off.....
HTH,
Mark
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Interesting.
Even though you are using pdaXii13 like us you seem to be having the experience of Cacko users. I'm going off our signature, so I could be mistaken and you are indeed using Cacko.
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I've been trying to get USB storage mode to work on my C3200 to enable my now useless 4GB FAT partition.
No one seems to care about windows connectivity here, but I do.
I discovered a small edit to usbfunction.py that enables the 6 Compact Flash settings that Danboid mentioned.
To enable the same settings that C3100 users have in usbfunction.py, change line 131
from
if (self.MODEL.find("SL-C3100") != -1)
to
if (self.MODEL.find("SL-C3200") != -1)
This change gave me 6 Compact Flash settings in the USB settings app.
Compact Flash (CF 0,1)
Compact Flash (CF 0,2)
Compact Flash (CF 0,3)
Compact Flash (CF 1,1)
Compact Flash (CF 1,2)
Compact Flash (CF 1,3)
I made the selection "Compact Flash (CF 0,3)
Then I plugged my zaurus into my windows box, but I still didn't have a connection.
Windows asked me to "insert disk"
I then rebooted my zaurus, this didn't help.
Rebooting actually made my usbfunction.py file revert back to it's original state.
I lost my editing! How do I make this change permanent?
What else do I need to change to make my microdrive available on my PC?
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I finally got my microdrive to open on my windows box!
I just kept selecting different settings in USB settings and when I used this one, it hooked up!
Compact Flash (CF 0,2)
Now I have one remaining issue. If I reboot, my usbfunction.py reverts to it's un-edited state.
I made a copy of the edited version, so if I have to reboot, I can just replace the original one with my new one.
But there must be a better way...
How can I make my edited usbfunction.py permanent so it will survive a reboot??
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I installed latest version on my 3100 using instructions from 1st post. It works, but I find that it hangs on that messg: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode for at least 10 minutes on each reboot, very annoying.
Also, there don't seem to be any hostap drivers so my Ambicom 1100 card doesn't work (won't work with orinoco drivers either)
I guess it's back to to the latest version of pdaXrom & GPE for me. I like the tweaks Meanie has done, but I gotta have wireless.
Cheers,
Jerry
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hi there ...
What are the symptoms when you plug in the card? Any led lights?
Try giving us the output of "cardctl ident" and "cardctl status", maybe we can help fix the wifi.
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Thanks, cardctl ident outputs the correct card info. However, after careful review, I realized I installed the 5.3 version and am now reflashing using the 5.3 updater & tools.bin, but using the 5.2 kernel and boot loader and HD image. So, I can't tell what the card status output was, but there were no lights on the card and dmesg showed no errors.
Update- Doh! the HDimage from the Alpha page is not 5.3 as I thought. So I'm back to square one. cardctl status show "ready" but lsmod shows no drivers loaded. And it still takes forever to reboot
Update # 2: My Avatar says it all!
I had a custom disk partition scheme and there wasn't enough space on hdc1, I didn't notice the errors until my last reflash, doh! Amazingly enough, Wifi works now that all of the files have been extracted to the hard drive.
Cheers
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I've just updated the 1st post, very likely for the last time until 5.3 or an updated pdaXii13 Akita gets released.
I added:
The USB openbox keybindings bug(s)
An ESSENTIAL TIPS section which tells you how to change the default font size and to remove scim packages if you don't need Chinese input support for greatly improved speed loading most X apps.
Added more info to the USB settings section and made a couple of minor edits.
Glad to hear you got your USB prob sorted Jon_J!
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I decided to try pdaxii13-akita. It's a whole lot faster and runs entirely from flash!
The downfall is, the upgrade path isn't working at the moment, so you're stuck with just the base install.
Upgrade path - is installing pdaxii13 full image to hard drive, and having the entire system use both NAND and the HDD.
There are 2 other main issues with pdaxii13-akita
1. microdrive doesn't automount upon boot
2. Module Dependencies FAILED error during boot
I'll stop ranting about the akita version, if interested go read about it here.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&st=0 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&st=0)
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I decided to try pdaxii13-akita. It's a whole lot faster and runs entirely from flash!
The downfall is, the upgrade path isn't working at the moment, so you're stuck with just the base install.
Upgrade path - is installing pdaxii13 full image to hard drive, and having the entire system use both NAND and the HDD.
There are 2 other main issues with pdaxii13-akita
1. microdrive doesn't automount upon boot
2. Module Dependencies FAILED error during boot
I'll stop ranting about the akita version, if interested go read about it here.
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&st=0 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&st=0)
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I made a new initrd.bin but have not uploaded it yet. this new initrd.bin contains fixes that will hopefully automount the partitions on the microdrive and also allow you to upgrade to pdaXii13 full.
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That will be really nice!
Since the akita NAND version runs so much faster, I'll keep and/or install all my small apps onto the NAND.
Then I'll install large applications, such as Abiword onto the hard drive partition.
This way, my smaller apps will have an "instant on" PDA-like feel, and when I want to use my Zaurus as a laptop replacement, I can use my larger applications which will reside on the HDD.
Best of both worlds!
Now if I can only squeeze Cacko in there, somewhere... (just kidding)
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That would be great!
I hope that it would workand there will be no more unresolved module dependencies.
Thanks Meanie!
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Since the akita NAND version runs so much faster, I'll keep and/or install all my small apps onto the NAND.
Then I'll install large applications, such as Abiword onto the hard drive partition.
When Meanie upgrades the fixed pdaXii13 Akita I will give it another go, but is what you propose possible Jon_J? I know under Cacko it asks you where you'd like to install an app but afaik the pdaXrom package manager doesn't give you the option of instaling to NAND or MD but I'm sure you could probably manually move and link the files after installation although that could be quite tedious.
Meanie:
What concerns me about the pdaXii13 Akita full install method is that only /usr is stored on the MD- what about /home? Obviously /home/root is the default path for installing zgcc and I often store all my source code and compiles etc. under my home dir. What do you think of adding support for other partitions to pdaXii13 Akita? Would anybody else be interested in such a setup?
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When Meanie upgrades the fixed pdaXii13 Akita I will give it another go, but is what you propose possible Jon_J? I know under Cacko it asks you where you'd like to install an app but afaik the pdaXrom package manager doesn't give you the option of instaling to NAND or MD but I'm sure you could probably manually move and link the files after installation although that could be quite tedious.
You can configure the install targets in the file /etc/ipkg.conf
You can give any directory (or at least every mount point) as a target.
Choosable on the command line ipk with the -d option, on the qpkg GUI-based package manager in the upper right corner in the dropdown.
Meanie:
What concerns me about the pdaXii13 Akita full install method is that only /usr is stored on the MD- what about /home? Obviously /home/root is the default path for installing zgcc and I often store all my source code and compiles etc. under my home dir. What do you think of adding support for other partitions to pdaXii13 Akita? Would anybody else be interested in such a setup?
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You can always link the directories anywhere you want them to be.
For example (not being Meanie, nor having installed pdaXii13 yet ) I have the zgcc image on the hard drive and just linked it into /home/root. This works very well.
Also, I linked the entire /home/root to a directory on the hard drive, in order not to fill up the flash with files applications may throw into the home directory.
But I have learned during my development in the last months, that it is not very useful to pre-link directories to other partitions in a system distribution, because the usage pattern of users varies so much that each user may have different needs where he prefers to have much space and where not.
daniel
daniel
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I'm pretty sure that Meanie wrote about /home on the hdd. /home is on hdd in the pdaxii13 version for SL-C3000. It works there, it should work on the SL-C3100 too.
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Hi daniel3000!
Thanks for filling me in on the ipkg install options and yes I think just making /home a link to a dir on the MD would be the way to go. Dunno why I didn't consider that before as it seems painfully obvious now
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When Meanie upgrades the fixed pdaXii13 Akita I will give it another go, but is what you propose possible Jon_J? I know under Cacko it asks you where you'd like to install an app but afaik the pdaXrom package manager doesn't give you the option of instaling to NAND or MD but I'm sure you could probably manually move and link the files after installation although that could be quite tedious.
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I partitioned my microdrive to the default setup awhile back when I installed pdaxii13 (5.2) to my hard drive (I installed pdaxrom beta3 first)
I then reformated my hard drive (hdc1) I reinstalled pdaxrom beta 3
Later, I installed pdaxii13-akita, which overwrote pdaxrom beta3
Now I installed pdaxii13 full image to my hard drive hdc1
Here's a screenie of package manager with the available mounts to install software.
EDIT: Yes you can see in the screenie that there are things installed twice. (double vision)
Those double entries are showing pdaxii13 full image on the hard drive (these don't actually have desktop counterparts)
The double entries don't actually effect anything, since my hdc1 partition is manually mounted and isn't linked anywhere.
The other half of the double entries are the programs/libs, etc that are on flash. These are the actual working ones.
I'm just waiting for meanie to update the full upgrade, then I'll either uninstall the duplicates, or wipe everything, and start fresh again.
The duplicate install does come in handy for copying .desktop files for when I install something new to Flash and it doesn't "register", and if it does have a .desktop file in the duplicates.
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Just updated the install guide yet again
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ADDITIONS
(this bug applies to both the c3000 and c3100 and I'm sure I mentioned it elsewhere on the forum but an aim of this doc is to collect all the current bugs in one place)
3. CAPS LOCK doesn't work in a default install and if you uncomment it in /etc/X11/kb/spitz.xmodmap then pushing the TAB key has the effect of both TAB and switching CAPS LOCK at the same time.
I also added a section on setting up a dial-up internet connection as this seems to be missing from the current zbook
CHANGES
I changed the tip on altering the default font to refer to the GTK theme selector instead of editing gtkrc
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However, I think it was Jon_J who said that pdaXii13 is now at version 5.2.4 and is now codenamed 'Sally'. If this is the case and 5.2.4 is what is now available publicly from tyrannozaurus then it would be good if someone running a fresh install of 5.2.4 could check to see if all these bugs are still present. Thanks!
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I've been testing the latest akita version "Sally"
I've used the latest akita-fix, dated Feb 06 - 2007
It still has a bug. I installed "Sally", then copied the files in the akita-fix to recommended directories.
The files inside akita-fix.tgz are mkfs.init and rc.rofilesys
Then I rebooted. pdaxii13-akita got to the welcome screen, then it says:
running rc.rofilesys
model is SL-C3200
Then it hangs up permanently.
I also posted this at tyrannozaurus in the pdaxii13 for C1000 thread.
EDIT: the first version of pdaxii13-akita "Alice" runs fine on my C3200, it does need a tweak to usbfunction.py to get the selection of CF cards in the USB settings app.
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there is an updated fix/patch for akita upgrade....
anyway, here is a list of known problems and resolutions plus enhancements:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210)
as for the caps lock thing, this is not a bug since caps lock is not needed with sticky keys enabled and thus been purposely deactivated. if you don't like it, change it yourself and make your own custom config...
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CAPS LOCK serves a different purpose to sticky keys doesn't it? As I far as I can tell, when sticky keys is turned on and you push the shift key then the next letter and only the next letter is printed in capitals. With caps lock, of course, when it is enabled then EVERY key pushed afterwards becomes capitalised so I fail to see how sticky keys is a substitute for caps lock as they function differently. If somebody really wants caps lock to work then how would they go about it?
The official list of known problems you linked to excludes all the problems (unwanted key bindings) I've listed that 5.2 has with USB keyboards i.e Alt_Gr loading Stardict etc. This problem is present on the c3000 and I would imagine affects US and other USB keyboards than just UK. Of course, that lists also makes no mention of the c3100/3200 specific bugs either but then thats what pdaXii13A is for. When somebody successfully upgrades pdaXii13A to the full version I will update this guide as needed - it will likely become unnecessary then.
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I've just updated the first post to reflect bugs present in 5.3b
Since 5.2, the USB settings bug (listing 6 CF devices on 3100/3200) has been fixed, FireFox seems to be working fine OOTB now and the keys on the side of the Z now work fine under XMMS.
However, in 5.3b xmms doesn't work until you install libXau, c3100/c3200 owners still have to wait a long time for pdaXii13 to boot, CAPS LOCK still doesn't work and I would still recommemnd people uninstall the scim packages unless they need them.
I have not yet been able to test for the unwanted USB keyboard bindings as I currently don't have a USB adapter or keyboard so I have just left that bug in for the moment. I would be grateful if someone could test this out and let me know if all those keys still launch the (previously) associated apps.
Meanie:
I was very disappointed to see you decided to remove the UK USB keyboard driver from 5.3. It makes absolutely no sense that you should include scim - which is MUCH bigger and has a serious detrimental effect on pdaX for all those who don't require it - yet you don't include a 2kb keyboard driver that is pretty much essential for all UK users and wouldn't cause any problems or complaints if it was included.
You can of course just say 'its easy- just download it from the repository' but this is truly one of the greatest, most common weaknesses of many a Linux distribution in that they often presume that everybody has internet access 24/7 when this is not the case. It would be best if pdaXii13 was fully usable after install even if you don't have an internet connection and the inclusion of this tiny file would make a big difference to me and all the other UK Z users. Please include every USB keyboard mapping that you have in 5.3 final.
Thanks!
dan