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General Forums => Off Topic forum => Topic started by: HoloVector on January 09, 2007, 12:49:37 pm
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Sounds like fun. More details to come.
EDIT: It has a 3.5 inch touchscreen and is running Mac OS X!
EDIT 2: 11mm thick, 2 megapixel camera, Quad-band GSM + EDGE GSM
EDIT 3: light sensor for adjusting the backlight automatically, accelerometer to change between portrait and landscape.
EDIT 4: Special interface designed for it that ignores unintended stylus and finger gestures. Can lock and unlock the unit by sliding your finger across the bottom.
EDIT 5: Can sync with iTunes, iCal, AddressBook, etc, on your Mac (probably PC too). Simple to use Conference Calling built-in
EDIT 6: Has SMS client has some iChat features, Photo Manager has some iPhoto features, Safari web browser, email client with Exchange, POP, IMAP and push Yahoo! Mail support, Google Maps, Dashboard Widgets
Edit 7: Has Wifi
Edit 8: can directly dial a phone number emailed to you by simply touching it like the Treo.
Edit 9: Can have multiple browser windows open but only the focused one is full sized the rest are minimized to an icon.
Edit 10: Yahoo! is porting their OneSearch service to the iPhone.
Edit 11: Price $499 for 4GB and $599 for 8GB with a 2 year contract.
Edit 12: Available June 2007 from Cingular only
Edit 13: That's it for now. I'll try to dig some more detailed specs and the Pics from the link that Srono posted give you a pretty good idea what it looks like.
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Its insanely great
Sounds like fun. More details to come.
EDIT: It has a 3.5 inch touchscreen and is running Mac OS X!
EDIT 2: 11mm thick, 2 megapixel camera, GSM
EDIT3: light sensory for adjusting the backlight automatically, accelerometer to change between portrait and landscape.
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it does sound insanely great...
Unfortunetly, knowing apple, it will also be insanely expensive
--Fish
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Live update here: http://www.gizmodo.com/ (http://www.gizmodo.com/)
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Unfortunetly, knowing apple, it will also be insanely expensive
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I did read this info:
$499 for 4GB Flash inside
$599 for 8GB Flash inside
both with 2 years Cingular contract
-- hns
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EDIT: It has a 3.5 inch touchscreen and is running Mac OS X!
It was said on www.macrumours.com that it has 160 dpi - but that would mean only 320x480 pixels screen
And, does anybody know if it is really running MacOS X or is it just looking like the Aqua/Cocoa interface style? It wasn't said anything about writing your own software...
And, if I look at the minimum system requirements for MacOS X 10.4, I have doubts:
Mac OS X Version 10.4 requires a Macintosh with:
At least 256MB of physical RAM
At least 3.0 GB of available space on your hard drive
And not mentioned, it needs a powerful processor - on a very small battery.
-- hns
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Here are the tech specs from Apple:
Screen size: 3.5 inches
Screen resolution: 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
Input method: Multi-touch
Operating system: OS X
Storage: 4GB or 8GB
GSM Quad-band: (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
Wireless data Wi-Fi: (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
Camera: 2.0 megapixels
Battery: Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing
Up to 16 hours Audio playback
Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
The screen resolution is lower then I expected. I was hoping 640x480 at least.
I wonder if the WiFi will work at g speeds. Nice to see bluetooth too. Hopefully, Cingular won't lock it down.
No mention of the processor(s) or the amount of RAM. I think I'll stick with my Zs.
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EDIT: It has a 3.5 inch touchscreen and is running Mac OS X!
It was said on www.macrumours.com that it has 160 dpi - but that would mean only 320x480 pixels screen
And, does anybody know if it is really running MacOS X or is it just looking like the Aqua/Cocoa interface style? It wasn't said anything about writing your own software...
And, if I look at the minimum system requirements for MacOS X 10.4, I have doubts:
Mac OS X Version 10.4 requires a Macintosh with:
At least 256MB of physical RAM
At least 3.0 GB of available space on your hard drive
And not mentioned, it needs a powerful processor - on a very small battery.
-- hns
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Apple is adament that the iPhone is running OS X. My guess is that Aqua and parts of Core subsystems (Graphics, etc...) were not ported to keep the OS X footprint down so, Aqua has been replaced with something a bit more light weight on this unit. I am also guessing that they are using ARM processors of some sort. Possibly multiple ones since the communications features aren't being disrupted when you are doing other things at the same time. I would also hazzard a guess that that unit has some sort 2D/3D acceleration to be able to run Movies, Google Maps and the eye candy so smoothly.
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All I can say is, THAT is the way you are suppposed to seamlessly integrate different functions in one device. Very nice job indeed!!!
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At least there is one company that knows that we are already in the 21st century!!!
I won't be getting iPhone v1.0 (screen seems low-res), but certainly I'll be there when iPhone v2.0 arrives !!
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iPhone:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ (http://www.apple.com/iphone/)
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Hope it works with old IPOD Docs. Im quite interested in this complete piece of geekdom.
http://blog.t3.co.uk/page/t3?entry=r2_d2_gets_jiggy_with (http://blog.t3.co.uk/page/t3?entry=r2_d2_gets_jiggy_with) (yup is an IPOD Docking station oh and a projector)
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With it having OS X under the hood I guess it will be easier to get open source software on to it? And I don't mean replacing the OS with linux, but building on the OS X itself.
I'm not a programmer but I noted he mentioned cocoa too, though I don't really know what that is of course! What I am saying is please don't someone say wouldn't it be great to get linux on it... Apple have already got unix on it, what would be great is smart folks like those coding for the Z creating/compiling amazingly useful software on top!
Just a thought.
Looking forward to June then.
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Bugger, just read this. That's no to open source then.
http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml (http://www.watercoolergames.org/archives/000723.shtml)
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yeah, the price really isn't awful considering. I realized shortly after my post how much I payed for my 3200 on preorder (neigh 800 USD IIRC). Funny how your perception of "expensive" changes when you buy imported japanese tech goodies
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yeah, the price really isn't awful considering. I realized shortly after my post how much I payed for my 3200 on preorder (neigh 800 USD IIRC). Funny how your perception of "expensive" changes when you buy imported japanese tech goodies
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I know what you mean. My C3000 was $705 from PriveJapan years ago.
I'm in the market for a new phone and was looking hard at the BlackJack.....
All I freaking want is a linux smart phone!! But I can't seem to find one.
GreenPhone is said to be unstable for dialy use. Even Trolltech makes the point that it's a dev tool, not a daily use phone.
So RIM, Nokia and Apple are my only 'non MS' options out there and _none_ run linux.
sigh.
Mark
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yeah, the price really isn't awful considering. I realized shortly after my post how much I payed for my 3200 on preorder (neigh 800 USD IIRC). Funny how your perception of "expensive" changes when you buy imported japanese tech goodies
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I know what you mean. My C3000 was $705 from PriveJapan years ago.
I'm in the market for a new phone and was looking hard at the BlackJack.....
All I freaking want is a linux smart phone!! But I can't seem to find one.
GreenPhone is said to be unstable for dialy use. Even Trolltech makes the point that it's a dev tool, not a daily use phone.
So RIM, Nokia and Apple are my only 'non MS' options out there and _none_ run linux.
sigh.
Mark
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HERE YOU GO- MOKO!
[a href=\"http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/a-truly-open-linux-phone-with-gps-debuts]http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/...with-gps-debuts[/url]
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HERE YOU GO- MOKO!
http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/...with-gps-debuts (http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/a-truly-open-linux-phone-with-gps-debuts)
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting after seeing Harald Welte's (a key Moko developer) latest blog entry (http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/01/13#20070113-noblog).
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iphone does not run under OS x
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/13/1746234.shtml (http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/13/1746234.shtml)
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HERE YOU GO- MOKO!
http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/...with-gps-debuts (http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/a-truly-open-linux-phone-with-gps-debuts)
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting after seeing Harald Welte's (a key Moko developer) latest blog entry (http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/01/13#20070113-noblog).
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I dunno... that sounds like loose ends near the end of a project ..and the frustration that goes with it just as easily as it could be taken to mean an endless, hopeless (phoneless) mire.
I wasn't planning to buy one far a little while anyway
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iphone does not run under OS x
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/13/1746234.shtml (http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/13/1746234.shtml)
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Wow! That was a poorly researched article even by Slashdot standards. The author shows no proof for that conclusion since no one outside of a small set of Apple and Cingular employees have even touched the thing.
He makes it sound like it would be impossible to recompile the BSD components on ARM. We better not tell the OpenBSD and NetBSD people on OESF about this or their Zauruses might stop working.
I'm guessing that until June we won't find out any more goodies about this puppy.
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HERE YOU GO- MOKO!
http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/...with-gps-debuts (http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/a-truly-open-linux-phone-with-gps-debuts)
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting after seeing Harald Welte's (a key Moko developer) latest blog entry (http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/01/13#20070113-noblog).
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I dunno... that sounds like loose ends near the end of a project ..and the frustration that goes with it just as easily as it could be taken to mean an endless, hopeless (phoneless) mire.
I wasn't planning to buy one far a little while anyway
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You guys have Cingular or ATT wireless down that way??
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HERE YOU GO- MOKO!
http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/...with-gps-debuts (http://tech.netscape.com/story/2006/11/07/a-truly-open-linux-phone-with-gps-debuts)
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting after seeing Harald Welte's (a key Moko developer) latest blog entry (http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/01/13#20070113-noblog).
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I dunno... that sounds like loose ends near the end of a project ..and the frustration that goes with it just as easily as it could be taken to mean an endless, hopeless (phoneless) mire.
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The openmoko dudes are doing a codesprint in Berlin as we speak.
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Honestly I'm not sure about cingular or ATT.
we have alascom gci and mta. I do everything with gci--decent plans and easier to manage with one call. Another reason I won't be getting an i-phone, maybe, though.