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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 12, 2007, 12:00:55 am
I have created an experimental version of pdaXii13 which lives on the NAND instead of the MicroDrive so it can be flashed for C1000, C3100 and C3200.
In essence, I extracted the akita initrd.bin from pdaXrom beta3 and added my patches and scripts and recreated the initrd.bin.
This basically means, it is pdaXrom beta3 bug fixed with the same fixes as pdaXii13 on the C3000 so it is equivalent to pdaXii13 base.

To differentiate between the two versions, I will call the orginal pdaXii13 for the C3000 which installs to the MicroDrive pdaXii13 Spitz
This new version for the C1000 which installs to the NAND will be called pdaXii13 Akita

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

bug fixed for beta3 in pdaXii13 base:

enabled sticky keys
replaced mmc driver with sharp_mmcsd_m.o (for >1 GB SD cards)
added tun.o module
added ntfs.o module
included ipkg-make-index (for generating Packages files)
added inputrc which enables home/end functionality in terminal
updated fstab to mount filesystems using utf8
updated passwd and group to add zaurus user and group
enhanced profile with various extra env variables/dir colours/bash prompt
updated sudoers   to allow zaurus user to sudo without password
updated ipkg.conf to point to new mega beta3 feed on tyrannozaurus
updated fonts.conf to look for additional font directories
added sd.conf for sd card module config
added sd_mem_ctrl for sd card control script
added smb.conf with default samba config
added usb-storage hotplug script for auto mounting up to 4 usb disks
added keybdev hotplug script for remapping usb keyboard
enhanced x11scr so running applications are also rotated
updated rc.xml   with extra keyboard shortcuts
added spitz.xmodmap which is my   customised working keyboard map
added usb.xmodmap for usb keyboard
enhanced rc.rofilesys to create extra loop devices
enhanced rc.sysinit to automount zgcc image and swapfile as well as enabling execution of rc.local
added mntloop to automatically mount loop devices at bootup
enhanced halt to do extra unmounts and release inodes during shutdown
updated samba start/stop script
updated sd start/stop script to use new SD module
updated x11 to auto start X
updated Xdefaults to enable transparency/shades in terminals
updated xpdfrc to specify font location for xpdf
added mixmos pre-configured volume config
added mixmos-wrapper script to allow mixmos to launch while volume aplplet is running
updated input.cfg default input/key mapping
added pdaxii13.conf for   custom bootup options in pdaXii13
added fixdsp which is a brute force script to reenable /dev/dsp
added sdmgr which is the SD card manager for SD module
updated startx to enable sticky keys when starting X server
replaced Xfbdev with patched X server that has silkscreen working
patched qtconfig to fit on the screen
upgraded AbiWord to 2.4.4
added ax for controlling sticky keys (accessx)
added aterm
added diff
added ftp
added telnet
replaced buggy vi with vim
added obconf
updated and patched gqview to fit on Z screen
fixed inputconfig.py to not corrupt kernel.map and removed ability to remap ctrl/alt
fixed network.py not to eject microdrive
fixed datentime.py to disable atd before changing time/date
enhanced cpuoverclock.py to run with command line interface too
enhanced mbsession script (.xinitrc)
added screencap   script to enable screen capture
enhanced usbfunction.py to correctly select hdd3 partition on C3x00
added usbnet script to quickly configure ICS from command line
added usbstorage script to quickly configure usb storage from command line
patched xpdf to fit on Z screen
patched xmms with extra key controls
added xmms-wrapper script to disable DPMS while XMMS is running
updated mb-applet-cards to allows new SD module to unmount SD cards and added feature to mount and unmount USB disk
updated mb-applet-tasks with new icon and also to load autoexec at startup
updated mb-applet-blanker to sync with lightnpower config when it starts and also to use xset-wrapper and disabled xmms controls
added xset-wrapper script for blanker applet to customise DPMS settings
added Xdialog
added usbkeyboard control script
added kbselect   usb keyboard selector GUI
added smbctrl samba control GUI
added vncctrl   x11 vnc control GUI
added pdaxcfg which is a very simple pdaXii13 config GUI
added version info script
patched matchbox-panel to not lose applets when screen is switched between VGA and QVGA
added matchbox-panel-manager  allow changing applet order
added dircolors
replaced ls with custom colour support
patched libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 to force applications to not go beyond 640x480
added libstdc++.so.5.0.7 library which is needed by some older applications
added libiconv.so.2.2.0   library which is needed by beta1 applications
added click.wav to enable click sound for screen capture
added mplayer.conf with default config to enable bvdd
added simple flite-file GUI
added simple flite-text GUI
updated esd.conf to disable auto respawn
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on January 12, 2007, 12:12:45 am
wow.  guess I"ll have to flash this weekend. maybe sorting out this project and the mega feed  could make a legit pdaXrom stable??
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: harvell on January 12, 2007, 12:56:10 am
Are you still on vacation???  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 12, 2007, 01:11:08 am
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Are you still on vacation??? 
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nope
got stuck with three important projects all at once and having fun juggling priorities and trying to manage time to work on each.
i guess pdaXii13 will be put on hold for a bit....
There won't be any more releases for a while
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: harvell on January 12, 2007, 01:52:02 am
I'm downloading the files right now.  I'll keep you updated....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on January 12, 2007, 03:24:24 am
Meanoo:

I've just tried installing pdaXii13 akita on my c3100. It installed OK but I get a FAILED when it tries to load Module Dependencies on boot.

After I'd tried booting pdaXii13 I ran the latest pdaXii13 spitz installer and installed the 5.2b hdimage. After rebooting nothing seemed to have changed and it didn't ask me to copy /etc or /home from Microdrive to NAND as it says in your install instructions. What commands should I use to do this? Is there anything else I will need to do to complete my upgrade to pdaXii13 full?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: harvell on January 12, 2007, 03:50:32 am
Just installed it .  All is working well.  Wireless card and 4G SD card recognized fine.  I did notice the same thing as danboid with the module dependancies.  However everything looks like its working smooth.  Gonna try to see if I can use the 4G SD card to make it a full
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on January 12, 2007, 10:43:27 am
It's working great so far.
I'm making a bug list here if you want to help:http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/185 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/185)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on January 12, 2007, 01:56:35 pm
Thank you.  Thank you. Thank you.  Meanie.  This exactly what I was looking for.  My sand box 1000 shall get this Meanie treatment first.  After I get the hang of pdaxii13 I'll switch my production 3200 over.    
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: harvell on January 12, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
I do get the following request when trying to install a package from the command line.

" The following package ere previously requested but have not been installed: libgaim libgaim-protocols libgaim-ssl
Install them now [y/n] ? "

When I select yes it gives a file not found error.  Even after I run an ipkg update.  When I select no it lets me install the program I want to install eg. gnumeric.  

I'll just load Gaim anyways to satisfy this however just an fyi from a clean load.  

Great work Meanie.  I never tried Beta3 however I'm liking it so far.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 13, 2007, 08:09:53 am
To upgrade pdaXii13 base to full on C3100/C3200, make sure your microdrive is mounted.
if /media/fakeroot does not exist, create it manually. after you reboot, it should prompt you to format hdd2 and hdd3 followed by asking you to copy /etc and /home before X is started.

if it doesn't happen, exit X and run mkfs.init

if nothing happens, remove /etc/.hdd and run mkfs.init again.

if still nothing happens, check what cat /proc/deviceinfo/product says and if it is not reporting the right model, then modify mkfs.init and remove the device check line


btw, since I dont have a C1000 and dont have much free time atm either, I will not be updating pdaXii13 akita. If anyone wants to continue on enhancing it or fixing bugs, you can download the tarball that contains the contents of the initrd.bin file and a script to generate it. The tarball also contains mkfs.jffs2 for the Z so the initrd.bin can be build from a Z. Just add.remove/replace files under the nand directory and run the mkinitrd to generate a new initdrd.bin
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Snappy on January 13, 2007, 08:55:48 pm
Just tested it out last night, works out of the box once I repart the flash ROM to use 64mb. However rebooting the unit now gets me into the prompt login and I cannot get back to X again.

Will reflash and try again. Also, need to get the remaining packages to try out.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Snappy on January 13, 2007, 09:20:20 pm
Hmmm ... so for Akita, how do we upgrade pdaXii13 base to full? Any links to packages so we can just do a single update instead of pulling down packages from feed individually? Thanks!

I got the C1000 and am testing out pdaXii13Akita as we speak.

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To upgrade pdaXii13 base to full on C3100/C3200, make sure your microdrive is mounted.
if /media/fakeroot does not exist, create it manually. after you reboot, it should prompt you to format hdd2 and hdd3 followed by asking you to copy /etc and /home before X is started.

if it doesn't happen, exit X and run mkfs.init

if nothing happens, remove /etc/.hdd and run mkfs.init again.

if still nothing happens, check what cat /proc/deviceinfo/product says and if it is not reporting the right model, then modify mkfs.init and remove the device check line


btw, since I dont have a C1000 and dont have much free time atm either, I will not be updating pdaXii13 akita. If anyone wants to continue on enhancing it or fixing bugs, you can download the tarball that contains the contents of the initrd.bin file and a script to generate it. The tarball also contains mkfs.jffs2 for the Z so the initrd.bin can be build from a Z. Just add.remove/replace files under the nand directory and run the mkinitrd to generate a new initdrd.bin
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: scoutme on January 14, 2007, 01:01:15 pm
any possibility to use it on a 860? What do you think about it? I'll be glad to test it, if you canmake a build
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 16, 2007, 05:01:08 pm
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Hmmm ... so for Akita, how do we upgrade pdaXii13 base to full? Any links to packages so we can just do a single update instead of pulling down packages from feed individually? Thanks!

I got the C1000 and am testing out pdaXii13Akita as we speak.

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To upgrade pdaXii13 base to full on C3100/C3200, make sure your microdrive is mounted.
if /media/fakeroot does not exist, create it manually. after you reboot, it should prompt you to format hdd2 and hdd3 followed by asking you to copy /etc and /home before X is started.

if it doesn't happen, exit X and run mkfs.init

if nothing happens, remove /etc/.hdd and run mkfs.init again.

if still nothing happens, check what cat /proc/deviceinfo/product says and if it is not reporting the right model, then modify mkfs.init and remove the device check line


btw, since I dont have a C1000 and dont have much free time atm either, I will not be updating pdaXii13 akita. If anyone wants to continue on enhancing it or fixing bugs, you can download the tarball that contains the contents of the initrd.bin file and a script to generate it. The tarball also contains mkfs.jffs2 for the Z so the initrd.bin can be build from a Z. Just add.remove/replace files under the nand directory and run the mkinitrd to generate a new initdrd.bin
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for installing on akita
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]

for building own custom initrd.bin
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: freebird on January 17, 2007, 08:06:52 am
Hi All
Hi meanie

I have same question than scoutme:

any possibility to use it on a 860?

I'll be glad to test it, if you can make a build  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 17, 2007, 05:59:15 pm
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Hi All
Hi meanie

I have same question than scoutme:

any possibility to use it on a 860?

I'll be glad to test it, if you can make a build 
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no, i don't have a cxx0 so am not able to build and test it, nor do i have the time to do so.

however, as i mentioned before, you can use the custom script to apply all the patches and fixes (but be careful because all the patches and script assume Cxx00 machines) and you can even build your own initrd.bin to flash it if patching is successful and you want to share the working build with others.

i can help you with applying the updates/patches manually and creating the initrd.bin, but you do need to do a lot of testing and fiddling with your Z before you get something stable. And you need to be willing to do lots of NAND backups and restore during the process...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Snappy on January 18, 2007, 11:53:47 am
Thanks for the link and batch install script.

I reverted back to cacko as I was going on a trip. Will backup cacko and retry pdaXii13 when I get a stable internet connection.

btw, when I flash pdaXii13, I should resize NAND flash to 121 MB right?

Incidentally, pdaXrom is faster than pdaXqtrom ... but somewhat felt slower than cacko/sharp rom.

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Hmmm ... so for Akita, how do we upgrade pdaXii13 base to full? Any links to packages so we can just do a single update instead of pulling down packages from feed individually? Thanks!

I got the C1000 and am testing out pdaXii13Akita as we speak.

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To upgrade pdaXii13 base to full on C3100/C3200, make sure your microdrive is mounted.
if /media/fakeroot does not exist, create it manually. after you reboot, it should prompt you to format hdd2 and hdd3 followed by asking you to copy /etc and /home before X is started.

if it doesn't happen, exit X and run mkfs.init

if nothing happens, remove /etc/.hdd and run mkfs.init again.

if still nothing happens, check what cat /proc/deviceinfo/product says and if it is not reporting the right model, then modify mkfs.init and remove the device check line


btw, since I dont have a C1000 and dont have much free time atm either, I will not be updating pdaXii13 akita. If anyone wants to continue on enhancing it or fixing bugs, you can download the tarball that contains the contents of the initrd.bin file and a script to generate it. The tarball also contains mkfs.jffs2 for the Z so the initrd.bin can be build from a Z. Just add.remove/replace files under the nand directory and run the mkinitrd to generate a new initdrd.bin
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for installing on akita
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]

for building own custom initrd.bin
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/)
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Snappy on January 18, 2007, 03:38:18 pm
btw, when I tried pdaXii13, I just dump the files into my cf, restart with OK+power btn, selected 4 and flash new rom. Is that right?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on January 18, 2007, 06:51:37 pm
some one, can post de step-by-step, the install process is confused for me @@
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 18, 2007, 10:08:52 pm
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btw, when I tried pdaXii13, I just dump the files into my cf, restart with OK+power btn, selected 4 and flash new rom. Is that right?
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you just do whatever you need to do as if you were installing beta3.

i just had beta3 installed using the default nand partitions for like 3 minutes just to rip the contents of initrd.bin
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 18, 2007, 10:20:33 pm
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some one, can post de step-by-step, the install process is confused for me @@
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install pdaXii13 Akita just like you would if you were installing pdaXrom beta3
(except the numbers and order of the menu items are in a different order)

when you finish flashing the nand, just reboot and enjoy pdaXii13 base.

if you want to upgrade to pdaXii13 full, then after pdaXii13 base has been installed, run the updater/flash tool again and partition your MicroDrive and reboot your Z after that (of course you don't need to do this if you had already re-partitioned your microdrive before).

then run the updater/flash tool yet again and use it to extract the hdimage-full.tgz (of course you need to have copied the hdimage to your sd/cf card before you got into the updater/flash menu.

reboot your Z and say yes to everything it wants to do
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Snappy on January 19, 2007, 01:10:12 am
Beta3 requires installation of uboot right?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on January 19, 2007, 02:27:15 am
no, not at all.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on January 19, 2007, 12:53:33 pm
I read on the tyrannozaurus forums that Meanie had updated pdaXii13 akita so I thought I'd give it another go. I can see the updater has a 'Install hdimage' option now but other that that I'm getting the same problems as last time I tried  

I don't suppose you need to reboot after flashing the NAND/ before installing the hdimage? I didn't think it would be necessary but maybe I'm wrong? I installed the hdimage straight after the NAND had been installed. The pdaXii13 Akita instructions are a bit vague on this. It also asks you to format the user partition (or something similar) after installing hdimage, I said yes to this even though I thought it had done this already when installing the NAND. Then I rebooted.

I still get the Module Dependencies FAILED error during boot

Although I installed the 5.2 hdimage with the akita installer successfully, its not booting into ROX and it obvious that the hdimage-full /usr isn't being used as none of the progs (mplayer etc.) are present.

So, last time I was in this state, Meanie said

"To upgrade pdaXii13 base to full on C3100/C3200, make sure your microdrive is mounted"...

Mounted where? Anywhere? What exact command should we use to mount it?

Also, how can I fix the Module Dependencies error?

Please write some more verbose, comprehensive instructions for installing pdaXii13 Akita full and then place them on its download page please Meanie.

Thanks again!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Romulus703x on January 22, 2007, 10:11:45 am
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Meanoo:

I've just tried installing pdaXii13 akita on my c3100. It installed OK but I get a FAILED when it tries to load Module Dependencies on boot.

After I'd tried booting pdaXii13 I ran the latest pdaXii13 spitz installer and installed the 5.2b hdimage. After rebooting nothing seemed to have changed and it didn't ask me to copy /etc or /home from Microdrive to NAND as it says in your install instructions. What commands should I use to do this? Is there anything else I will need to do to complete my upgrade to pdaXii13 full?
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Hello Danboid,
it seems that you are the winner.
Until know I can run only PdaXii13 NAND version. Thats it. Before I have done a flash to the NAND version I have done a repartition to the recommended partition. The PdaXrom Beta 3 could mount all 3 partition. After I reflashed to PdaXii13 NAND version there was no mount of all 3 partition ofd the microdrive.
I removed also the .hdd file and afterwards I have done mkfs.init. It shows me that he has seen new partition, but at the end there was no mount to them.

Please give me some advice, how I can mount all 3 microdrive partition correctly.
Maybe a printout of your fstab will help or any other hidden file where the mounting might be.

As I understood the update to the full hdimage will work only if the microdrive partitions are mounted.

This is a cry for help. We need definetly a correct written documentation.

On the other hand. The Nand version is really fast if you run everything with a
NAND resize of 121 MB.

Have fun.

Romulus703x.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on January 22, 2007, 10:27:10 am
Hi Romulus (great nick btw!)

If you want to install pdaXii13 full on your 3100 or 3200 read my first post here

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22711 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22711)

noting the numerological significance of it being posted at 11:11 on 07/01/07, topic 22711

When you've recovered from that   you can join me in politely nagging Meanie until he discloses the sacred command combos required for a pdaXii13 Akita full install, unless of course you don't mind waiting 10m for your Z to boot!

We need you Mr. Menaie- HELP!!!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on January 22, 2007, 11:39:28 am
Some questions about this new 'Akita' version, Meanie (or others...) please...

I've now got the other pdaXii13 'Spitz' full version working quite nicely on my 3200.

1) Wondering if there's any reasons for me to switch over to this new 'Akita' version???

2) What is benefit of having it reside in NAND versus MicroDrive on 3200??

     - Is it speed-related? Faster boot time??
     - Easier to install because of flashing??
     - Less trouble if there's MicroDrive problems??
     - More room on MicroDrive??


3) Any downside to using this Akita version versus the other Spitz version?

4) Are both versions the same bug-fix wise??

5) Assuming that I decide to switch to the Akita version, what is the easiest way for me to do that since I already run Spitz version??

6) As I understand it, the Akita version is a 'base install' version. Once you install 'base' version, how do you upgrade to 'full version'??


Thanks for any and all help with these questions!

Just want to avoid/minimize hassles and screw-ups for me and others too....

 

Mark



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I have created an experimental version of pdaXii13 which lives on the NAND instead of the MicroDrive so it can be flashed for C1000, C3100 and C3200.
In essence, I extracted the akita initrd.bin from pdaXrom beta3 and added my patches and scripts and recreated the initrd.bin.
This basically means, it is pdaXrom beta3 bug fixed with the same fixes as pdaXii13 on the C3000 so it is equivalent to pdaXii13 base.

To differentiate between the two versions, I will call the orginal pdaXii13 for the C3000 which installs to the MicroDrive pdaXii13 Spitz
This new version for the C1000 which installs to the NAND will be called pdaXii13 Akita

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

bug fixed for beta3 in pdaXii13 base:

enabled sticky keys
replaced mmc driver with sharp_mmcsd_m.o (for >1 GB SD cards)
added tun.o module
added ntfs.o module
included ipkg-make-index (for generating Packages files)
added inputrc which enables home/end functionality in terminal
updated fstab to mount filesystems using utf8
updated passwd and group to add zaurus user and group
enhanced profile with various extra env variables/dir colours/bash prompt
updated sudoers   to allow zaurus user to sudo without password
updated ipkg.conf to point to new mega beta3 feed on tyrannozaurus
updated fonts.conf to look for additional font directories
added sd.conf for sd card module config
added sd_mem_ctrl for sd card control script
added smb.conf with default samba config
added usb-storage hotplug script for auto mounting up to 4 usb disks
added keybdev hotplug script for remapping usb keyboard
enhanced x11scr so running applications are also rotated
updated rc.xml   with extra keyboard shortcuts
added spitz.xmodmap which is my   customised working keyboard map
added usb.xmodmap for usb keyboard
enhanced rc.rofilesys to create extra loop devices
enhanced rc.sysinit to automount zgcc image and swapfile as well as enabling execution of rc.local
added mntloop to automatically mount loop devices at bootup
enhanced halt to do extra unmounts and release inodes during shutdown
updated samba start/stop script
updated sd start/stop script to use new SD module
updated x11 to auto start X
updated Xdefaults to enable transparency/shades in terminals
updated xpdfrc to specify font location for xpdf
added mixmos pre-configured volume config
added mixmos-wrapper script to allow mixmos to launch while volume aplplet is running
updated input.cfg default input/key mapping
added pdaxii13.conf for   custom bootup options in pdaXii13
added fixdsp which is a brute force script to reenable /dev/dsp
added sdmgr which is the SD card manager for SD module
updated startx to enable sticky keys when starting X server
replaced Xfbdev with patched X server that has silkscreen working
patched qtconfig to fit on the screen
upgraded AbiWord to 2.4.4
added ax for controlling sticky keys (accessx)
added aterm
added diff
added ftp
added telnet
replaced buggy vi with vim
added obconf
updated and patched gqview to fit on Z screen
fixed inputconfig.py to not corrupt kernel.map and removed ability to remap ctrl/alt
fixed network.py not to eject microdrive
fixed datentime.py to disable atd before changing time/date
enhanced cpuoverclock.py to run with command line interface too
enhanced mbsession script (.xinitrc)
added screencap   script to enable screen capture
enhanced usbfunction.py to correctly select hdd3 partition on C3x00
added usbnet script to quickly configure ICS from command line
added usbstorage script to quickly configure usb storage from command line
patched xpdf to fit on Z screen
patched xmms with extra key controls
added xmms-wrapper script to disable DPMS while XMMS is running
updated mb-applet-cards to allows new SD module to unmount SD cards and added feature to mount and unmount USB disk
updated mb-applet-tasks with new icon and also to load autoexec at startup
updated mb-applet-blanker to sync with lightnpower config when it starts and also to use xset-wrapper and disabled xmms controls
added xset-wrapper script for blanker applet to customise DPMS settings
added Xdialog
added usbkeyboard control script
added kbselect   usb keyboard selector GUI
added smbctrl samba control GUI
added vncctrl   x11 vnc control GUI
added pdaxcfg which is a very simple pdaXii13 config GUI
added version info script
patched matchbox-panel to not lose applets when screen is switched between VGA and QVGA
added matchbox-panel-manager  allow changing applet order
added dircolors
replaced ls with custom colour support
patched libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 to force applications to not go beyond 640x480
added libstdc++.so.5.0.7 library which is needed by some older applications
added libiconv.so.2.2.0   library which is needed by beta1 applications
added click.wav to enable click sound for screen capture
added mplayer.conf with default config to enable bvdd
added simple flite-file GUI
added simple flite-text GUI
updated esd.conf to disable auto respawn
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 22, 2007, 11:41:05 pm
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Hi Romulus (great nick btw!)

If you want to install pdaXii13 full on your 3100 or 3200 read my first post here

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22711 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22711)

noting the numerological significance of it being posted at 11:11 on 07/01/07, topic 22711

When you've recovered from that   you can join me in politely nagging Meanie until he discloses the sacred command combos required for a pdaXii13 Akita full install, unless of course you don't mind waiting 10m for your Z to boot!

We need you Mr. Menaie- HELP!!!
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being a self proclaimed geek, you should be able to figure it out by yourself or demote yourself to mere user

i will only work on the C3000 version of pdaXii13 since all my work is done natively on my C3000. i do not have a cross dev environment and cannot afford to have downtime since I am away from home most the time.

i already done the best i can by building the initial framework that allows akita and similar models (3100/3200) to flash pdaXii13, but i cannot test it nor can i continue to work on it further. someone else needs to pick up the work and fix the bugs for the akita family(c1000/c3100/c3200).

- find out why depmod is complaining during boot and fix it

- have a look at rc.rofilesys and fix the mounting issues (if any) -- the first partition on the microdrive (/dev/hda1 or /dev/hdc1) needs to be mounted to /media/fakeroot

everything *should* fall into place after that. if not, fix it

there are no step by step install instructions because it is an experimental build which has not been tested yet. the akita edition is not a fully tested and working release. its purpose is for people who want an akita build to have something to start from so they don't have to start from scratch. it is not my intend to build a fully working akita version of pdaXii13. this is left for others to do that are interested in getting pdaXii13 to work on akita... i can help out a bit, but someone needs to do the work to get it fully working and tested..., otherwise, i will just change the website back to its original wording which was "pdaXii13 is for C3000 only and will not work on any other similar Zaurus model"
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on January 23, 2007, 03:34:36 am
User I am then!

Geek != developer, although I suppose to be a true geek you should at least know how to program. I have dabbled in C, Pascal and BASIC in the past but can't say I've ever coded anything of worth ('cept the little scriptish thing that was konqkonv - a DVD video conversion tool for Konqueror) however I could never honestly say "I'm a programmer" nor would I want to be- it truly bores me to tears and besides girls are much more interested in the fact that I'm a good drummer  

I really don't want to be known as a geek either as they're widely regarded as quite sad people but I had a pretty major operation just before xmas which has hampered my mobility and I've been unable to work so I've had LOTS of time to mess with the Z and spend WAAAY too much time posting and reading on OESF. This has led to my delusions of geekery which I really must knock on the head asap!

Me, I'm a 'tech enthusiast'- is that OK?  

Anyway, after quitting X and doing

mount /dev/hda1 /media/fakeroot
mkfs.init

It DOES at least appear to copy over a couple of partitions but after a reboot I end up with pdaXii13 akita non-full but with much more errors at boot time and after doing this I am unable to modify any files such as /etc/rc.d/rc.rofilesys as I just get 'No space left on device' errors. Maybe the trick is to edit that file BEFORE running mkfs.init? Mr. Tech Enthusiast feels out of his depth now and decides to go running back to the hackish c3000 install method he used before!  

Is there anyone out there who is willing and able to take over from where Meanie has left off with pdaXii13 on the c3100/c3200?

Thanks for revealing the mysterious mount command and for getting us this far Meanie!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 24, 2007, 05:58:49 am
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Anyway, after quitting X and doing

mount /dev/hda1 /media/fakeroot
mkfs.init

It DOES at least appear to copy over a couple of partitions but after a reboot I end up with pdaXii13 akita non-full but with much more errors at boot time and after doing this I am unable to modify any files such as /etc/rc.d/rc.rofilesys as I just get 'No space left on device' errors. Maybe the trick is to edit that file BEFORE running mkfs.init? Mr. Tech Enthusiast feels out of his depth now and decides to go running back to the hackish c3000 install method he used before!   

Is there anyone out there who is willing and able to take over from where Meanie has left off with pdaXii13 on the c3100/c3200?

Thanks for revealing the mysterious mount command and for getting us this far Meanie!
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again, you jumped the boat before determining the extend of the leak so to speak

you manually mounted the hdd without first determining why it wasn't mounting automatically which of course needs to be fixed first. it has to automatically mount at boot time for the rest of the things to succeed.

anyway, it would be helpful to provide the output of the following for the various akita supported models (c3100/c3200):

df -h
mount
cat /proc/deviceinfo/product
grep Hardware /proc/cpuinfo
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on January 24, 2007, 06:12:44 am
Thanks for offering to help Meanie, but I got sick of waiting for a fix to the hdimage-full upgrade problem and so I'm back to using the spitz hacky install edition ™. Next time I manage to trash my install then I'll probably give pdaXii13 Akita another go and I'll post the info you requested if nobody beats me to it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Romulus703x on January 24, 2007, 04:13:38 pm
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Quote
Anyway, after quitting X and doing

mount /dev/hda1 /media/fakeroot
mkfs.init

It DOES at least appear to copy over a couple of partitions but after a reboot I end up with pdaXii13 akita non-full but with much more errors at boot time and after doing this I am unable to modify any files such as /etc/rc.d/rc.rofilesys as I just get 'No space left on device' errors. Maybe the trick is to edit that file BEFORE running mkfs.init? Mr. Tech Enthusiast feels out of his depth now and decides to go running back to the hackish c3000 install method he used before!   

Is there anyone out there who is willing and able to take over from where Meanie has left off with pdaXii13 on the c3100/c3200?

Thanks for revealing the mysterious mount command and for getting us this far Meanie!
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again, you jumped the boat before determining the extend of the leak so to speak

you manually mounted the hdd without first determining why it wasn't mounting automatically which of course needs to be fixed first. it has to automatically mount at boot time for the rest of the things to succeed.

anyway, it would be helpful to provide the output of the following for the various akita supported models (c3100/c3200):

df -h
mount
cat /proc/deviceinfo/product
grep Hardware /proc/cpuinfo
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Hello Meanie,
ok, here are the infos you requested for running NAND version on SL-C3200:
1.) df -h

Filesystem          Size        Used     Available     Use%     Mounted on
/dev/root           121.0M   53.5M     67.5M         44%       /
none                   12.0M   16.0k      12.0M         0%        /dev
/dev/mmcda1     968.2M   446.9M   521.3M       46%      /mnt/card
/dev/hda1          488.5M   291.8M   196.7M       60%      /mnt/cf

2.) mount

rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
/dev/root on / type jffs2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
/dev/root on /mnt/user type jffs2 (rw)
/dev/mmcda1 on /mnt/card type vfat (rw,noatime)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/cf type vfat (rw,noatime)

3.) cat /proc/deviceinfo/product

SL-C3200

4.) grep Hardware /proc/cpuinfo

Hardware     : SHARP Borzoi

I hope this will help you to clarify the step by step procedure for installing the full hdimage.tgz file.

Thanks for your help.

Good luck.

Romulus703x
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 24, 2007, 09:40:48 pm
thanks for the info Romulus703x.

can you also give me the output for the following:

ls /

ls /dev/loop*

ls /media/

mount | grep " / " | grep -v rootfs | cut -c-8

cat /var/lib/pcmcia/stab
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 24, 2007, 10:56:53 pm
never mind, I figure this patch might fix it.

extract the files from akita-fix.tar.gz and copy mkfs.init to /sbin/ and rc.rofilesys to /etc/rc.d/


see next post for uncorrupted file
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: anonuk on January 24, 2007, 11:04:16 pm
the tar.gz wouldnt unpack for me, has anyone else managed to open it?

(thx meanie for all your efforts on the Z)

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never mind, I figure this patch might fix it.

extract the files from akita-fix.tar.gz and copy mkfs.init to /sbin/ and rc.rofilesys to /etc/rc.d/
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 24, 2007, 11:29:53 pm
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the tar.gz wouldnt unpack for me, has anyone else managed to open it?

(thx meanie for all your efforts on the Z)

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never mind, I figure this patch might fix it.

extract the files from akita-fix.tar.gz and copy mkfs.init to /sbin/ and rc.rofilesys to /etc/rc.d/
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try again
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: merli on January 25, 2007, 01:49:15 pm
Hello.

After long time I start to play today with flashing varius versions of pdaxrom.
I've tried bet3 and xii13 on my c1000.

Found various bugs I want to report. I'm back to beta1.

1) depmod failed
when I run this binary I get
Floating point exception

Is it same binary as in beta1/beta3?
But I didn't mentioned any problem with missing depmod probram.

2)
Fn +1,2,3,4 does not work from scratch ... I have to edit /usr/X11R6/bin/startx and put parameter -kb instead +kb. OK can fix it without problem

3) When rotating screen wallpaper is somehow messed up and it ends so default X background is seen above panel. How to fix it? I know beta1 is rotating without this problem.

4) silkscreen buttons. When I run dillo by push home button it starts, but it cannot be closed. And also all windows cannot be closed and you cannot type into windows.
Mail button is OK also dillo when I run it from Internet menu shortcut. How to fix this bug?

5) I am using Z for readin ebooks. When I install justreades and I set codepage to cp1250 (windows eastern european - all my books are encoded in cp1250) som accented characters are _not_ shown instead of some are small rectangles. I think it is some problem in i18n but in beta 1 cp1250 encoding in justreader it is working from scratch.

6) One cosmetic "bug". Window titles are written with very small font. Where to size it up a little bit?

Can someone help me solve those problems? I am back in beta1 - restored from NAND backup.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Romulus703x on January 25, 2007, 07:31:06 pm
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thanks for the info Romulus703x.

can you also give me the output for the following:

ls /

ls /dev/loop*

ls /media/

mount | grep " / " | grep -v rootfs | cut -c-8

cat /var/lib/pcmcia/stab
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Hello Meanie,
here are the requested answers right after the login:
1.) ls /
     bin dev home media opt root tmp var
     data etc lib mnt proc sbin usr

2.) ls /dev/loop
     /dev/loop0 /dev/loop2 /dev/loop4 /dev/loop6
     /dev/loop1 /dev/loop3 /dev/loop5

3.) ls /media/
     fakeroot realroot

4.) mount | grep " / " | grep -v rootfs | cut -c-8
     /dev/roo
     /proc on
     none on
     none on
     /dev/roo
     /dev/mmc

I hope this will help you, Meanie.

Best regards,

Romulus703x
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on January 29, 2007, 06:46:09 am
the rc.rofilesys have a missue in line 143, i make a mini-fix and works for me

Old line
Code: [Select]
if [ "$MODEL" = "SL-C3100" ] || "$MODEL" = "SL-C3200" ]; then
New line
Code: [Select]
if [ "$MODEL" = "SL-C3100" ] || [ "$MODEL" = "SL-C3200" ]; then
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on January 29, 2007, 08:47:27 am
after fix i get a loop with this error /var/lib/pcmcia/stab File not Found.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on January 29, 2007, 10:14:01 pm
I decided to try this version on my new C3200.
It's a lot faster than the microdrive install version!
Leafpad opens in less than 2 seconds! And the File>Open dialog is available instantly.
In the hard drive version, Leafpad takes 15-20 seconds to open and you have wait about 10 more seconds to use the File>Open dialog...

There are still 2 issues as mentioned above.
1. Module Dependencies FAILED error during boot
2. The microdrive isn't mounted during boot. I haven't tried mounting it manually yet.

I also got USB drive mode working on my FAT formatted partition by editing usbfunction.py (as I did when I had the other version of pdaxii13 installed)

Change line 131 from this:
if (self.MODEL.find("SL-C3100") != -1)
to
if (self.MODEL.find("SL-C3200") != -1)

This enables the 6 Compact Flash selections in USB settings.
Using Compact Flash (CF 0,2) enables my FAT partition to be opened in windows.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on January 30, 2007, 08:49:27 am
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never mind, I figure this patch might fix it.

extract the files from akita-fix.tar.gz and copy mkfs.init to /sbin/ and rc.rofilesys to /etc/rc.d/
That patch broke my instalation. I had to reflash again.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on January 31, 2007, 01:35:50 am
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after fix i get a loop with this error /var/lib/pcmcia/stab File not Found.
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where is the file stab located on your Z?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on January 31, 2007, 04:07:29 pm
in /var/lib/pcmcia/stab, but i dont noi] how it no long more in this directory @@
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on January 31, 2007, 04:25:12 pm
Since the hard drive partitions are not automounted, I have to mount hdc1 and hdc3 manually.
I haven't figured out how to mount hdc2, it's my swap drive.
How do I mount this partition, and enable swap?
Also my hdc3 (FAT) drive becomes read only after using it for awhile.
I have to umount it, then mount it again to remove the read only property.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 01, 2007, 06:58:58 pm
I've uploaded a new initrd.bin for akita variant of pdaXii13... hope this fixes most of the issues...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 01, 2007, 08:04:23 pm
Installed new nitrd.bin for akita and is booting.
I still get Module Dependencies Failed
Hard drive partitions didn't mount. Do I need to reinstall the full image to the hard drive again?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 01, 2007, 08:53:02 pm
I reinstalled the full image to the hard drive (hdimage-full)
I had problems at first because it was trying to mount /dev/hda1 and wanted to efsck the partition.
I realized my inserted CF card was /dev/hda1, so I went back to the maintenance menu with the CF card still inserted. When the blue screen with the options appeared, I selected Reboot. As soon as the runlevel changed, I took out the CF card.
It rebooted and it said the hard drive was error free.

Module Dependencies checked as [OK]
My 3 partitions also automounted, and swap was enabled on /hda2
I got to the calibration screen, and it was fine this time. (The first time I installed pdaxii13, the calibration screen was messed up, it only showed 2 taps on right side and one in the middle)
It seems like the full version is running off the hard drive. I'm not sure what, if there is any benefit of having both akita and full installed at once, at this point.
I may need to do some tweaking because everything is running off the hard drive and is slow compared to just the akita flash only version.
There is no USB storage. (again)
I wonder if I have to re-install the akita version to get some of these features back?
1. speed
2. USB storage on internal storage.
EDIT:
I was hoping these 2 versions would work together.
As of now, it seems like I only have the full
 hard drive version installed alone.
I guess I'm going to re-install the akita version again (3rd time)
I really hope The akita version I just downloaded was the updated one.
I just looked and the filesizes of the "new" akita and the old one are exactly the same.
What is the purpose of installing the akita version and upgrading to the full version on a C3100/C3200?
What is the difference between doing that and just installing the full version in the first place?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 01, 2007, 08:57:30 pm
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I reinstalled the full image to the hard drive (hdimage-full)
I had problems at first because it was trying to mount /dev/hda1 and wanted to efsck the partition.
I realized my inserted CF card was /dev/hda1, so I went back to the maintenance menu with the CF card still inserted. When the blue screen with the options appeared, I selected Reboot. As soon as the runlevel changed, I took out the CF card.
It rebooted and it said the hard drive was error free.

Module Dependencies checked as [OK]
My 3 partitions also automounted, and swap was enabled on /hda2
I got to the calibration screen, and it was fine this time. (The first time I installed pdaxii13, the calibration screen was messed up, it only showed 2 taps on right side and one in the middle)
It seems like the full version is running off the hard drive. I'm not sure what, if there is any benefit of having both akita and full installed at once, at this point.
I may need to do some tweaking because everything is running off the hard drive and is slow compared to just the akita flash only version.
There is no USB storage. (again)
I wonder if I have to re-install the akita version to get some of these features back?
1. speed
2. USB storage on internal storage.
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uninstall scim and things will load much faster if you don't need japanese or chinese input support...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 01, 2007, 09:11:58 pm
I was editing my post while you posted meanie.
So what is the advantage of both versions verses just the hard drive version on a C3100/3200?
It didn't offer to copy /home and /etc from the MicroDrive to the NAND during your first boot after the upgrade.
It also won't let me reboot with a CF card inserted. It wants to run efsck.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 01, 2007, 09:28:59 pm
There is no option to install anything on flash in the package manager. Only
CF
Card
/ (hda1)
Should I reflash the akita version again?
It's package manager had options to install to 5 mounts.
CF
Card
User (flash)
ide (hdc1)
ide3 (hdc3)

I went back to the akita version. I'll wait and see if the issues of "making" both versions work together gets resolved.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 01, 2007, 09:46:41 pm
Quote
I was editing my post while you posted meanie.
So what is the advantage of both versions verses just the hard drive version on a C3100/3200?
It didn't offer to copy /home and /etc from the MicroDrive to the NAND during your first boot after the upgrade.
It also won't let me reboot with a CF card inserted. It wants to run efsck.
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ok, let me get this straight.

pdaXii13 Spitz (base and full) is for SL-C3000 only and runs off the internal MicroDrive because the NAND on the C3000 is too small (it sorta works on SL-C3100/SL-C3200 but you will get errors which are never going to be fixed!)

pdaXii13 Akita base is for SL-C1000, SL-C3100, SL-C3200 and this follows the way most Zaurus work, ie running off the NAND. (SL-C3100 and SL-C3200 can upgrade to pdaXii13 Akita full since they have a MicroDrive which will give them access to pre-installed and configured applications just like pdaXii13 Spitz full, /usr is bound to the MicroDrive, everything else is run from the NAND)

The speed difference is caused by SCIM which gives you multilingual input such as Chinese and Japanese. If you don't need SCIM, uninstall it, and things will load faster... pdaXii13 base does not have SCIM, pdaXii13 full has SCIM by default.

the USB Storage option has a bug and only works for SL-C3000. This has been fixed in the latest initrd.bin (pdaXii13 Akita base) and has also been included in an updated ipk file. This fix will also be included in build 5.3 of the hdimage-full, however, the current release is build 5.2

The updated ipk can be found here: [a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/usbdconfig_1.1.1-3_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...-3_armv5tel.ipk[/url]

Here is a list of changes for build 5.3: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210)
pdaXii13 Spitz is currently on build 5.2 and thus pdaXii13 full is build 5.2
pdaXii13 Akita, since it has been build more recently, includes some of the updates for build 5.3, however, when upgrading to pdaXii13 full, some of the fixes will be overwritten by the 5.2 hdimage.

remember that pdaXii13 Spitz is the only relatively stable released version. pdaXii13 Akita is still in alpha stage...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 01, 2007, 09:59:57 pm
Quote
The speed difference is caused by SCIM which gives you multilingual input such as Chinese and Japanese. If you don't need SCIM, uninstall it, and things will load faster... pdaXii13 base does not have SCIM, pdaXii13 full has SCIM by default.
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Thanks meanie, I read the above post twice. The first thing I did when I installed the spitz version was to uninstall Scim and 2 Scim related things. It still seemed a lot slower than the akita version.
Opening the USB settings, for instance, took a lot longer than it does in the akita version.
The package manager is slower to open, but that may be due to having more packages installed.
The Light & Power settings is slower in the spitz version also. (This is after uninstalling Scim)
In the spitz version, how do I install stuff to flash?
I could re-flash to spitz, uninstall all the stuff I don't use, and then install the small packages to flash, but there is no option to use flash in spitz version.
EDIT:
Maybe the best way for me is to wipe my hard drive (hda1), Install akita version, then manually install the other stuff that I want, to /hda1 and flash, (since the akita version has this option in package manager).
The drive partitions still need to be manually mounted though, in the akita version.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 01, 2007, 10:52:36 pm
Quote
Quote
The speed difference is caused by SCIM which gives you multilingual input such as Chinese and Japanese. If you don't need SCIM, uninstall it, and things will load faster... pdaXii13 base does not have SCIM, pdaXii13 full has SCIM by default.
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Thanks meanie, I read the above post twice. The first thing I did when I installed the spitz version was to uninstall Scim and 2 Scim related things. It still seemed a lot slower than the akita version.
Opening the USB settings, for instance, took a lot longer than it does in the akita version.
The package manager is slower to open, but that may be due to having more packages installed.
The Light & Power settings is slower in the spitz version also. (This is after uninstalling Scim)
In the spitz version, how do I install stuff to flash?
I could re-flash to spitz, uninstall all the stuff I don't use, and then install the small packages to flash, but there is no option to use flash in spitz version.
EDIT:
Maybe the best way for me is to wipe my hard drive (hda1), Install akita version, then manually install the other stuff that I want, to /hda1 and flash, (since the akita version has this option in package manager).
The drive partitions still need to be manually mounted though, in the akita version.
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pdaXii13 Spitz is not supposed to use the NAND since it was primarily made for the SL-C3000 which has a tiny NAND only
if you want to use the NAND, then pdaXii13 Akita is what you need.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 08, 2007, 06:42:11 am
pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) 5.3 is now available for download...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: JustMatt on February 08, 2007, 08:31:35 am
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pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) 5.3 is now available for download...
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I downloaded the image last night and flashed it this morning (forget my charger at work).  My 4gb SD card now works which is awesome.  Thanks a lot for the updates.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: cal on February 08, 2007, 11:16:28 am
I have a problem with fluxbox.  on My C1000 there is no text displayed in the menus or windows.  Actually I hink the font is invisible.  Anyone know how to fix it?  Am I missing fonts?  Openbox, and rox-filler work fine.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 08, 2007, 06:04:56 pm
found two bugs (bad module and wrong format of partition). i am going to rebuild the image and reupload later today...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on February 08, 2007, 10:50:09 pm
You're the man.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 08, 2007, 11:09:19 pm
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You're the man.
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i also recompiled xterm so it doesn't look so odd anymore and no more missing font warning...
meh, now have to reupload everything again, sigh...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on February 08, 2007, 11:11:35 pm
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You're the man.
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i also recompiled xterm so it doesn't look so odd anymore and no more missing font warning...
meh, now have to reupload everything again, sigh...
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Thanks Meanie for all your hard work.  We really appreciate it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on February 09, 2007, 01:16:58 am
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i also recompiled xterm so it doesn't look so odd anymore and no more missing font warning...
meh, now have to reupload everything again, sigh...
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If I see your nick I know there will be good news  Thanks for doing such a great job for this community
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: radiochickenwax on February 09, 2007, 03:14:51 am
Can it hurt to have too many thanks?  

Wow!  Truly outstanding work....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 04:21:54 am
folks... may I present to you pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) 5.3

this release is considered stable and does not have module dependency errors any more and will correctly detect the internal MicroDrive if you have one of course
it fixes most annoying bugs (the one that annoy me at least) in beta3 including the xterm

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: matthis on February 09, 2007, 04:24:35 am
Woohoo! Thank you so much!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 05:01:45 am
Meanie / Antik

Just a idea.

Why not create a wiki, to put all info about pdaxii13 together ?

xD

and im tryind this version write now.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 05:06:33 am
I flahsed it write now and i give this error:

grep: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0 .... File not found...

to fix this, just press ctrl-c and install pcre xD

Warnings

1 - My hda1 is empty and when pdaxii13 try to mount show a mount error, can make check after mount and show a mensage, like, no hdimage installed os something like


Menaie, another question how i can remove scim from hdfull image instalation ?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 05:42:00 am
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I flahsed it write now and i give this error:

grep: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0 .... File not found...

to fix this, just press ctrl-c and install pcre xD

Warnings

1 - My hda1 is empty and when pdaxii13 try to mount show a mount error, can make check after mount and show a mensage, like, no hdimage installed os something like


Menaie, another question how i can remove scim from hdfull image instalation ?
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hdimage-full.tgz has not finished uploading yet, so you could not have possibly installled it already. only the initrd.bin which is pdaXii13 Akita base has finished uploading so far...

use Package Manager to remove packages, just remove all packages that have scim in the package name..
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ntrolls on February 09, 2007, 05:45:16 am
Thank you Meanie, this version works perfectly with my C1000.

One thing though. Scim works with Qt apps, but not with GTK ones. What I did was:

- Installed a Korean TTF font
- Installed scim-hangul
- Modified /etc/sysconfig/locale with "export LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8"

SCIM is loaded successfully, but control+space does not work at all with GTK apps. Where should I look?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 05:57:55 am
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Thank you Meanie, this version works perfectly with my C1000.

One thing though. Scim works with Qt apps, but not with GTK ones. What I did was:

- Installed a Korean TTF font
- Installed scim-hangul
- Modified /etc/sysconfig/locale with "export LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8"

SCIM is loaded successfully, but control+space does not work at all with GTK apps. Where should I look?
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what do the following commands show:

env | grep scim

grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 06:26:19 am
Menaie this is a great thing to mount hda2 as swap or additional data partion, very very nice this xD, but if mount fail this show error message, i think you forget the /dev/null

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mount -t ext3 -o rw,noatime,umask=000,iocharset=utf8 ${MDD}2 /mnt/ide2 2> /dev/null
sorry my very very bad english  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 06:40:11 am
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Menaie this is a great thing to mount hda2 as swap or additional data partion, very very nice this xD, but if mount fail this show error message, i think you forget the /dev/null

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mount -t ext3 -o rw,noatime,umask=000,iocharset=utf8 ${MDD}2 /mnt/ide2 2> /dev/null
sorry my very very bad english 
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oh no! you already found a tiny bug  
too bad for 3100/3200 users, you will need to apply a patch
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ntrolls on February 09, 2007, 06:54:37 am
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what do the following commands show:

env | grep scim

grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
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root:-)env | grep scim
QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

root:-)grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "scim" "/usr/share/locale" "*"

Seems OK to me. Thank you for the quick response.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 06:58:01 am
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what do the following commands show:

env | grep scim

grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
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root:-)env | grep scim
QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

root:-)grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "scim" "/usr/share/locale" "*"

Seems OK to me. Thank you for the quick response.
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is the size of /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 exactly 2272576 ?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ntrolls on February 09, 2007, 07:05:24 am
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is the size of /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 exactly 2272576 ?
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It is 2272576 indeed.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 07:30:17 am
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is the size of /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 exactly 2272576 ?
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It is 2272576 indeed.
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here is my scim config files. compare them against you config files under /home/root/.scim
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on February 09, 2007, 07:54:54 am
I've just tried installing 'sally' 5.3 on my c3100. The good news is that, yes, the Module dependencies error is gone but upgrading to the full 5.3 hdimage still doesn't work

On my first boot after installing sally and then the hdimage, I said yes to copying /home and /etc to NAND. It complained about hda2 (can't remember the exact error) then it successfully got as far as showing the splash screen for a sec before returning me to the console with an error I wish I'd wrote down. It was something like

Error in line 3 of busybox.conf, user not found

and I was then presented with a console login prompt so I tried logging in as root but then it asked for a password. Blank (just pushing enter) and password didn't work (didn't try root or 123ABC etc actually but where do you draw the line on these things?) so I just ended up rebooting.

Subsequent boots haven't done that though, now it just gets as far as

INIT: version 2.86 booting
INIT: No inittab file found

Enter runlevel:

So I've tried typing '3' and '5' but then it just says

INIT: Entering runlevel: 3(/5)
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel

So before I try installing 5.3 full using the spitz installer do you want any info off me Meayne?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 08:10:55 am
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I've just tried installing 'sally' 5.3 on my c3100. The good news is that, yes, the Module dependencies error is gone but upgrading to the full 5.3 hdimage still doesn't work sad.gif

On my first boot after installing sally and then the hdimage, I said yes to copying /home and /etc to NAND. It complained about hda2 (can't remember the exact error) then it successfully got as far as showing the splash screen for a sec before returning me to the console with an error I wish I'd wrote down. It was something like

forr this erro, please read some topics before..  

erros -

1 - after ctrl-c in grep/pcre erro install it and error gone
2 - error in swap mounte already have a fix ome posts before
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 09, 2007, 11:07:47 am
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Quote
Menaie this is a great thing to mount hda2 as swap or additional data partion, very very nice this xD, but if mount fail this show error message, i think you forget the /dev/null

Code: [Select]
mount -t ext3 -o rw,noatime,umask=000,iocharset=utf8 ${MDD}2 /mnt/ide2 2> /dev/null
sorry my very very bad english 
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oh no! you already found a tiny bug  
too bad for 3100/3200 users, you will need to apply a patch
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Has this patch become available?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 11:19:29 am
the patch is: alter the file  

btw i attach it, this file have no problem mount hda2/swap

remove the .txt to uncompress it  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 09, 2007, 11:38:50 am
I just flashed yesterday's pdaxii13-akita-5.3 version.
I'll flash this newest release/version (feb-09-2007) later today. and copy this latest rc.rofilesys
I'll report any bootup errors here, or any other "unusual" things that may pop up.

Jon
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on February 09, 2007, 12:37:49 pm
These are my observations of the latest akita5.3 release (downloaded late feb-09-2007)

I installed this on a C3200
I selected "Install new ROM", when done I rebooted, leaving my CF & SD card inserted.
The installer then asked if I wanted to format hdc2 as swap, I said [NO]
The installer then asked if I wanted to format hdc3 as FAT, I said [NO]
My partitions are already partitioned and formatted, so I didn't see any point in doing this again.

These are the bootup messages before I copied the newest rc.rofilesys
The bootup messages were also the same after I copied the newest rc.rofilesys

I'll just make a note of recent changes and any errors.
I showed Module dependencies because this has been an issue in past akita versions
I showed the Bluetooth line because an error follows it immediately
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to pdaxii13 on Sharp Zaurus

...mounting first partition as /mnt/ide
...mounting second partition as swap
...mounting third partition as /data

Module dependencies [OK]

Starting Bluetooth [OK]
Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also when rebooting (as unit is shutting down) this line gives this error:
Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol [FAILED]
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: cal on February 09, 2007, 01:13:55 pm
I've seen a few mentions of composting is Kdrive as a compile time option.  Is there any way to get that included in the next release, or an IPK?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: harvell on February 09, 2007, 02:34:42 pm
The 5.3 upgrade comes at a good time for me.  I wanted to see what "ipkg upgrade" would do for me...... Seems like it was going great until it hosed my SD card driver.  I guess I should have done it with out the gui loaded .  Here I go again flashing.  It always makes for a fun Friday.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on February 09, 2007, 05:12:52 pm
Code: [Select]
Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol

i have this issue too, RFCOMM is infra red port ?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on February 09, 2007, 05:33:29 pm
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Code: [Select]
Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol

i have this issue too, RFCOMM is infra red port ?
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no, that is your serial bluetooth interface. strangely, it sometimes complains with this error, but sometimes it does not. if you don't have a bluetooth device, ie cf or usb, then just remove the links to blueooth start and stop scripts under /etc/rc.d/init.d/rc5.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d/rc6.d

this error exists in beta3 also and has always been on in pdaXii13 Spitz
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on February 10, 2007, 04:12:14 am
The error that I got before when trying to boot a sally 5.3 install upgraded to full was

Parse error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user

Then I got the login prompt that wouldn't

With this broke sally full upgrade still in place (see my last post), I did a DB boot and copied the updated rc.rofilesys into /etc/rc.d/ on my MD and then rebooted but it made absolutely no difference far as I could tell but then I suppose all that fixes is the hda2 error.

I'm going to install 5.3 full using the pdaXrom / alice method now
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on February 19, 2007, 11:48:58 pm
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bug fixed for beta3 in pdaXii13 base:

added keybdev hotplug script for remapping usb keyboard
...
added spitz.xmodmap which is my   customised working keyboard map
added usb.xmodmap for usb keyboard
...
added usbkeyboard control script
added kbselect   usb keyboard selector GUI
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It looks like there's now an effective way to switch out keymappings.  It appears that I need to use the kbselect app to choose a keymapping to make this work.  However, when I select a USB keyboard, it asks me to hit a couple keys, presumably to confirm that a suitable keyboard is attached before it remaps everything to a potentially unusable state.

What the heck is the XF86Start key (keycode 122)?  I tried xev and I couldn't find a key on my USB keyboard that produces a 122 keycode.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on February 20, 2007, 06:01:43 am
I've just tried installing pdaXii13 sally 5.3.1 full w/ 5.3b hdimage on my c3100. I get lots of errors when it boots up, it gets as far as the pdaXii13 splash screen before dumping me on the console with a few

Using fallback suid method

errors and presenting me with a login prompt. I tried both 'root' and 'zaurus' with no luck.

So why am I still unable to install ii13 sally full when others claim to have installed it without problem I wonder? When I install I say yes to the formatting/ copying of everything except for hda3, my vfat partition as I don't want to and shouldn't need to format that. I am of course trying to install pdaXA full over a spitz/full pdaXii13 5.3b install- maybe it only works when you install over the top of b3?

On subsequent boots it says

INIT: No inittab file found
Enter runlevel:

So, are there any c3100 users who previously installed pdaXii13 using my/ Archimarks install method for the spitz version who have successfully managed to install sally full over it?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: donpoon on February 23, 2007, 10:48:50 am
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pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) 5.3 is now available for download...
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Thanks for your great stuffs Meanie.
I just flashed pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) 5.3 on my C1000.  The installation ran smoothly.
The first thing I checked is xpdf.  It has problem locating the fonts though.  I confirm that by starting it from the terminal and it spits out "couldn't find fonts" errors.
Wonder if I have done something wrong on my side.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on February 23, 2007, 12:31:57 pm
Yesterday I tried installing 5.3.1 again and not choosing the install HDimage after installing the main rom but exactly the same happened to me as in my last bug report. I've not tried saying No to copying /home and /etc but even then there is a massive stack of errors before it gets that far anyway about drives not be mounted, files missing, modules failing etc etc. If I could log in then maybe I could get a dump of them.

So I got to thinking that maybe it was something to do with me having the spitz version installed previously so I installed pdaX b3, which installed fine, and installed 5.3.1 over that and just got the same problems again. I was getting worried then so I tried installing Hentges but that has installed fine so its not like my disk has died.

Maybe I should try downloading it again? I always use the same card and process for flashing and its unusual for something to not copy properly.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Gatu on February 24, 2007, 01:45:09 pm
Hi,

two questions regarding install of Pdaxii13 on the C1000:

Is there some way of using an SD Card inserted into the C1000 instead of the HD on C3xxx?
This means basically to put the hdimage on the SD and mount it and so get witz some trick the same results as with HD?

If this does not work... if I install the base version on NAND and use ipk-batch-install.sh... will it install the additional packages on NAND or on SD?

Thanks and Br,
Gatu
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 12, 2007, 05:45:53 pm
pdaXii13 build 5.3.2 has been uploaded to http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

changes since 5.3.1:
    * updated xpdf
    * updated timezones data for new daylight savings rules
    * enhanced datentime.py with a Timezones tab to select predefined timezones
    * enhanced kbselect so it can unlock/fix the keys when they lock up
    * added feature to disable sticky keys
    * updated rc script to run rc.local if it exists
    * replaced mkfs.vfat to support formatting of larger FAT32 partition
    * updated bluepin with default 1234 PIN
    * added sdcontrol to mount 2nd partition if exists and integrated with cards applet
    * updated zbackup to allow alternate location for backup file and support for akita models
    * updated rotation script so closing the display will blank it and enhanced it so that rotation is not slowing down resume

some more info about the delta between 5.2 and 5.3.2 can be read here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/210)

Instructions on how to upgrade without reflashing:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/Zauru...gebase/Pdaxii13 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/ZaurusKnowledgeBase/SoftwareKnowledgebase/Pdaxii13)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 12, 2007, 10:41:08 pm
Quick question for meanie. Just installed pdaxii13-akita5.3.2 (new flash)
Do I have 2 /home directories?
When in Rox and I click on the default "Home" folder on the desktop, it takes me to the directory on the right of the screenshot ~(All)
When in the root directory and I click on the /home directory, I get the folder on the left of the screenshot /home (All)
I think I might have removed the one on the right, (when I was changing it's icon) the last time I installed pdaxii13 plus Rox. That's why I'm asking this question now.
What is the ~ directory for, and what is it's purpose? Should I rename it "My Zaurus", so I can have my /home folder with my house icon? I cannot have 2 "Home" folders on the desktop, can I ?
EDIT:
Nevermind, I figured out that ~ is /home/root
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on March 13, 2007, 12:11:22 am
Hey guys,

I installed pdaxii13 5.3.2 Nand version on my c1000, but when I try to install rox I get an error, something about being unable to write to /usr/lib. Also, when I check my / directory, I have zero space, is this correct?

During install I nand flash using 121 which I assume is correct, but once the install is complete and I jump into X, when I check my space under / is 0.


Am I missing something?

VirtusRex
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on March 13, 2007, 09:31:46 am
Quote
Hey guys,

I installed pdaxii13 5.3.2 Nand version on my c1000, but when I try to install rox I get an error, something about being unable to write to /usr/lib. Also, when I check my / directory, I have zero space, is this correct?

During install I nand flash using 121 which I assume is correct, but once the install is complete and I jump into X, when I check my space under / is 0.


Am I missing something?

VirtusRex
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Ok, just want to make sure that I'm installing pdaxii13 5.3.2 correctly.
I resized my Nand to 121, everything installs fine. When X windows starts, I open a terminal and type the following df -h:

filesystem        size   Used   Available    Use%   Mounted On
/dev/root        53.0   53.0M      0     100%     /
none             12.0M   20.0k      12.0M   0%     /dev
/dev/mtdblock3   68.0M   3.8M      64.2M      6%       /home
/dev/mtdblock3   68.0M   3.8M      64.2M       6%       /mnt/user

is this correct when install on C1000? On my /dev/root is 100% used, where do I install applications like Rox?

VirtusRex
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 12:14:19 pm
I have a fresh install of pdaxii13-akita5.3.2 on my C3200 (flashed last night)
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df -h
Filesystem      Size   Used  Available  Use%   Mounted on
/dev/root      121.0M   57.3M    63.7M    47%    /
none            12.0M   16.0k    12.0M    0%     /dev
/dev/hdc1        2.0G   32.3M     1.9G    2%     /mnt/ide
/dev/hdc3        3.4G   31.2M     3.4G    1%     /data
/dev/mmcda1      1.9G  417.4M     1.5G    22%    /mnt/card
/dev/hda1      989.3M  287.0M   702.3M    29%    /mnt/cf

EDIT:
When I first installed pdaxii13-akita onto my (then brand new C3200), I installed pdaxrom beta3 first.
Using pdaxrom beta3's installer, I reformatted my Flash partition to 121
Then I installed pdaxii13-akita
(maybe pdaxrom's flash reformatter works better, I don't know)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on March 13, 2007, 03:32:08 pm
Quote
I have a fresh install of pdaxii13-akita5.3.2 on my C3200 (flashed last night)
Code: [Select]
df -h
Filesystem      Size   Used  Available  Use%   Mounted on
/dev/root      121.0M   57.3M    63.7M    47%    /
none            12.0M   16.0k    12.0M    0%     /dev
/dev/hdc1        2.0G   32.3M     1.9G    2%     /mnt/ide
/dev/hdc3        3.4G   31.2M     3.4G    1%     /data
/dev/mmcda1      1.9G  417.4M     1.5G    22%    /mnt/card
/dev/hda1      989.3M  287.0M   702.3M    29%    /mnt/cf

EDIT:
When I first installed pdaxii13-akita onto my (then brand new C3200), I installed pdaxrom beta3 first.
Using pdaxrom beta3's installer, I reformatted my Flash partition to 121
Then I installed pdaxii13-akita
(maybe pdaxrom's flash reformatter works better, I don't know)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156110\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks Jon_J, looks like my nand isn't resizing correctly.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 03:39:48 pm
Hope someone can PLEASE clarify a few things about 'Upgrading' pdaXii13, before I screw things up....  

I'm using pdaXii13 v5.2 Spitz full install (Alice) now on my 3200. Works great....

So wondering what is best approach to do now to get upgraded to latest version v.5.3.2??

Should I

A) Upgrade using 'Alice', reflashing 'hdimage-full.tgz'

or

 Switch over to 'Sally' now as it is meant for 3200, right?


If it's advantageous to go with 'Option B', do I need to wipe out the install I have now or can I still do an 'Upgrade' install approach??

Thanks for any and all help!

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 03:41:36 pm
meanie has an upgrade path (go up to post #94)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=156061 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&view=findpost&p=156061)
but I don't completely understand how to do it properly.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: deadite66 on March 13, 2007, 03:51:20 pm
do you have to upgrade or is their a fresh install path.
currently have cacko 1.23 installed.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 03:58:52 pm
Quote
meanie has an upgrade path (go up to post #94)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=156061 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&view=findpost&p=156061)
but I don't completely understand how to do it properly.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156133\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks, Jon_J, I saw that...but besides 'how to upgrade', what I'm also really trying to get at is whether or not I should stay on the 'Alice' path or are there some advantages to switching over to the 'Sally' path???
 
 

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 04:04:18 pm
Quote
do you have to upgrade or is their a fresh install path.
currently have cacko 1.23 installed.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=156134\")
I'm going to reply, but I'm not an expert on pdaxrom.
You need to state what model of Zaurus you have.  
I have a C3200 so the below information is for C3100 or C3200
First, you'll need to install pdaxrom beta3 (for newer clamshells)
Read how to flash pdaxrom here
[a href=\"http://mail.pdaxrom.org/docs/installation/quickguide]http://mail.pdaxrom.org/docs/installation/quickguide[/url]
While installing beta3, you are given the option to partition your NAND
Most people partition their NAND to 121MB
Now I'm going to point something out.
You'll also need to repartition your microdrive, (if you have one), later in pdaxii13 install.
Doing these 2 things (partitioning the NAND and the microdrive) makes it difficult to return back to Sharp/Cacko.

That being said, once you flash to pdaxrom beta3, you can update or flash to pdaxii13.
You'll need to go to meanie's page and read up on pdaxii13
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 04:10:08 pm
Quote
Quote
meanie has an upgrade path (go up to post #94)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=156061 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&view=findpost&p=156061)
but I don't completely understand how to do it properly.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156133\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks, Jon_J, I saw that...but besides 'how to upgrade', what I'm also really trying to get at is whether or not I should stay on the 'Alice' path or are there some advantages to switching over to the 'Sally' path???
 
 

Thanks,

Mark
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I opted for the "Sally" path/version because I wanted everything basic to run from NAND.
I tried the "Alice" version first, back in January, and thought it was slow.
"Sally" on NAND seems a lot faster, much like Cacko, so I'm sticking with it.
I haven't installed any large apps yet, these will go on the microdrive.
Right now, I only have basic utilities installed.
I just reflashed last night to akita5.3.2 (Sally)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 04:17:00 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
meanie has an upgrade path (go up to post #94)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=156061 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22798&view=findpost&p=156061)
but I don't completely understand how to do it properly.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156133\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks, Jon_J, I saw that...but besides 'how to upgrade', what I'm also really trying to get at is whether or not I should stay on the 'Alice' path or are there some advantages to switching over to the 'Sally' path???
 
 

Thanks,

Mark
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I opted for the "Sally" path/version because I wanted everything basic to run from NAND.
I tried the "Alice" version first, back in January, and thought it was slow.
"Sally" on NAND seems a lot faster, much like Cacko, so I'm sticking with it.
I haven't installed any large apps yet, these will go on the microdrive.
Right now, I only have basic utilities installed.
I just reflashed last night to akita5.3.2 (Sally)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156138\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks for that input, Jon_J!

Think I'll 'bite the big one' and flash over to 'Sally'.....

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 06:27:25 pm
OK, just flashed pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 Sally on my 3200...

At first glance, it would seem like install was OK as it boots up to desktop and I can navigate around desktop, etc....

However, I did notice a few weird things....hopefully someone can advise.....

Code: [Select]
#df -h
Filesystem           Size       Used  Available  Use%   Mounted on
/dev/root         53.0M      53.0M          0    100%    /
none               12.0M           0      12.0M    0%       /dev
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M       4.3M     63.7M   6%       /home
/dev/hda1          2.0G    259.6M      1.7G    2%       /mnt/ide
/dev/hda3          3.4G        4.0k      3.4G    0%       /data
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M       4.3M     63.7M   6%       /mnt/user

1) Notice that it shows above that root is only 53MB even though I selected 128MB using the installer.

Although wondering if this has to do with after install, installer asked me if I wanted to do something with internal flash or something like that?? Maybe it resized it again??

2) I'm thinking that since root shows that it's 100% used and 0 available space that's why I'm getting a lot of messages during bootup regarding 'No such file or directory' and 'No space left on device' ???

Also, a few items show as [Failed] in red letters during bootup instead of [OK] in green letters like other items....

So, my SD card is not recognized nor is my ethernet CF card...got message during bootup 'sdmgr: No such file or directory'......


Given the above weirdness, what should I do, go through install process again and re-flash or ???

Thanks for any input!

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on March 13, 2007, 06:33:20 pm
Finally got pdaxii13 install on my C1000. Everything runs ok, and I can install ipks ok. Problem now is the Brightness and Zoom shortcut key don't work?

Anybody with C1000 having the same problem?

VirtusRex
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 06:38:54 pm
Archimark, have you installed pdaxrom beta3 first?
I flashed my C3200 to pdaxii13-akita5.3.2 last night with the 3 files.
initrd.bin
tools.tar
updater.sh
All I did was select flash or install new rom.
When it asked about partitioning my microdrive, I said NO to these because I already had done this previously in an earlier install of pdaxii13-akita5.3
I had no errors, all boot processes were in green [OK]
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 06:45:32 pm
Quote
Archimark, have you installed pdaxrom beta3 first?
I flashed my C3200 to pdaxii13-akita5.3.2 last night with the 3 files.
initrd.bin
tools.tar
updater.sh
All I did was select flash or install new rom.
When it asked about partitioning my microdrive, I said NO to these because I already had done this previously in an earlier install of pdaxii13-akita5.3
I had no errors, all boot processes were in green [OK]
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Thanks for your help, Jon_J....

Umm, not exactly...

I did install pdaxrom beta3 before I installed pdaxii13 Alice awhile back....but not now...

So, was I suppose to pdaxrom beta3 again now before flashing pdaxii13 Sally???

Also, I put the 2 other files on my CF card besides the 3 that you mention:

- zimage-2.4.20.bin
- hdimage-full.tgz

Is that OK??

UPDATE

Re-flashed again and this time did 'patch loader limit' (or something like that) under 'NAND Utils' in installer then did 'Resize Root Partition' and this time used 121MB instead of 128MB (as was noted on Meanie's pdaXii13 page...). Then did Flash ROM....

This time booted up OK - No error messages! All green 'OK'....

So far, everything now works good, connected to internet using my ethernet card!

Yeah!....

 

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 06:48:32 pm
no, if you installed pdaxrom beta3 some time ago, you should be OK
I don't think you need those other files, I have always flashed and re-flashed akita (Sally) with just the 3 files I listed above
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 06:52:19 pm
Oh, I forgot.
After using pdaxii13-spitz (Alice) I'm pretty certain I re-partitioned and formatted, or just re-formatted my hard drive during my first install of akita (Sally)
This removed all traces of spitz (Alice)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 07:00:57 pm
Another thing I just thought of.
Since pdaxii13-spitz (Alice) installs and runs from the microdrive, I'm thinking that you would need to reinstall pdaxrom beta3 to get the operating stuff back onto NAND, before you wipe your microdrive of the spitz installation.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 13, 2007, 07:14:31 pm
Quote
Finally got pdaxii13 install on my C1000. Everything runs ok, and I can install ipks ok. Problem now is the Brightness and Zoom shortcut key don't work?

Anybody with C1000 having the same problem?

VirtusRex
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I believe Meanie remapped some keys in pdaxii13.  I believe the function key is now mapped for generating F1 - F10 (function keys, kinda makes sense) using 1-0.  Try the kanji key next to the dash to activate zoom and brightness.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 07:16:06 pm
Quote
Oh, I forgot.
After using pdaxii13-spitz (Alice) I'm pretty certain I re-partitioned and formatted, or just re-formatted my hard drive during my first install of akita (Sally)
This removed all traces of spitz (Alice)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156159\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yeah, I did that....

 

thanks,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 07:17:17 pm
Quote
Another thing I just thought of.
Since pdaxii13-spitz (Alice) installs and runs from the microdrive, I'm thinking that you would need to reinstall pdaxrom beta3 to get the operating stuff back onto NAND, before you wipe your microdrive of the spitz installation.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156161\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Hmmm....don't think so, as so far everything is working A-OK....

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 07:19:51 pm
Have you looked at this thread? (Seems VirtusRex had a similar prob with NAND size)
C1000 - Can't Nand Resize To 121
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23472 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23472)
Quote
OK, just flashed pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 Sally on my 3200...

At first glance, it would seem like install was OK as it boots up to desktop and I can navigate around desktop, etc....

However, I did notice a few weird things....hopefully someone can advise.....

Code: [Select]
#df -h
Filesystem        Size       Used  Available  Use%   Mounted on
/dev/root         53.0M     53.0M          0   100%     /
none              12.0M         0      12.0M   0%       /dev
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M      4.3M     63.7M    6%       /home
/dev/hda1          2.0G    259.6M      1.7G    2%       /mnt/ide
/dev/hda3          3.4G      4.0k      3.4G    0%       /data
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M      4.3M     63.7M    6%       /mnt/user

1) Notice that it shows above that root is only 53MB even though I selected 128MB using the installer.

Although wondering if this has to do with after install, installer asked me if I wanted to do something with internal flash or something like that?? Maybe it resized it again??

2) I'm thinking that since root shows that it's 100% used and 0 available space that's why I'm getting a lot of messages during bootup regarding 'No such file or directory' and 'No space left on device' ???

Also, a few items show as [Failed] in red letters during bootup instead of [OK] in green letters like other items....

So, my SD card is not recognized nor is my ethernet CF card...got message during bootup 'sdmgr: No such file or directory'......


Given the above weirdness, what should I do, go through install process again and re-flash or ???

Thanks for any input!

Mark
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 07:55:24 pm
Quote
Have you looked at this thread? (Seems VirtusRex had a similar prob with NAND size)
C1000 - Can't Nand Resize To 121
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23472 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23472)
Quote
OK, just flashed pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 Sally on my 3200...

At first glance, it would seem like install was OK as it boots up to desktop and I can navigate around desktop, etc....

However, I did notice a few weird things....hopefully someone can advise.....

Code: [Select]
#df -h
Filesystem        Size       Used  Available  Use%   Mounted on
/dev/root         53.0M     53.0M          0   100%     /
none              12.0M         0      12.0M   0%       /dev
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M      4.3M     63.7M    6%       /home
/dev/hda1          2.0G    259.6M      1.7G    2%       /mnt/ide
/dev/hda3          3.4G      4.0k      3.4G    0%       /data
/dev/mtdblock3    68.0M      4.3M     63.7M    6%       /mnt/user

1) Notice that it shows above that root is only 53MB even though I selected 128MB using the installer.

Although wondering if this has to do with after install, installer asked me if I wanted to do something with internal flash or something like that?? Maybe it resized it again??

2) I'm thinking that since root shows that it's 100% used and 0 available space that's why I'm getting a lot of messages during bootup regarding 'No such file or directory' and 'No space left on device' ???

Also, a few items show as [Failed] in red letters during bootup instead of [OK] in green letters like other items....

So, my SD card is not recognized nor is my ethernet CF card...got message during bootup 'sdmgr: No such file or directory'......


Given the above weirdness, what should I do, go through install process again and re-flash or ???

Thanks for any input!

Mark
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Umm...see post above, I did format drive....

Meanwhile, have noticed a few weird things that I could use input on please...

1) Just noticed that I don't see rox-filer folders on desktop with this install.... yet according to package manager it's installed....

2) Can't seem to find Firefox anywhere, yet according to package manager it's installed....

Any suggestions as to how to open rox and firefox???

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 07:59:08 pm
on a fresh install of akita, there is no Rox or Firefox. I installed mine with the pkg app.
The akita install is supposed to be a minimal install, and there are a lot of things missing that are in the full spitz version.
Just like the difference between Cacko full and Lite
you'll notice, no splash screen and no startup sound, no mplayer, etc, etc...

This is what is installed on my fresh akita5.3.2 install
Office: leafpad, abiword, X pdf
Internet: licq, ppp dialer, slypheed, xchat irc, dillo
Sound & video: oss mixer, xmms
Graphics: gqview
Games: (There was a small game in here, and I forgot what it was called, because I removed it)
Other: galculator, screencap (screencap is missing the stuff needed to cap *.png files and it's icon), X virtual keyboard, xclock, xterm, rxvt, xircp
System tools: cpu config, date & time, input setup, lan & wifi, light & power, ppp modem, package manager, look & feel, usb, usb keyboard selector, qtconfig, pdaxii config
Utilities: > Panel: app launcher, aterm launcher, battery monitor, cf/sd monitor, clock, screen blanker, volume control, wireless monitor, x virtual keyboard, cpu/mem monitor

Also, there is no "Reboot" on the menu, you have to install the reboot ipk seperately
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 08:02:56 pm
Quote
on a fresh install of akita, there is no Rox or Firefox. I installed mine with the pkg app.
The akita install is supposed to be a minimal install, and there are a lot of things missing that are in the full spitz version.
Just like the difference between Cacko full and Lite
you'll notice, no splash screen and no startup sound, no mplayer, etc, etc...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156184\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

OK, I get it now, Jon_J.....

 

Thanks!

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 08:15:56 pm
Quote
on a fresh install of akita, there is no Rox or Firefox. I installed mine with the pkg app.
The akita install is supposed to be a minimal install, and there are a lot of things missing that are in the full spitz version.
Just like the difference between Cacko full and Lite
you'll notice, no splash screen and no startup sound, no mplayer, etc, etc...

This is what is installed on my fresh akita install
Office: leafpad, abiword, X pdf
Internet: licq, ppp dialer, slypheed, xchat irc, dillo
Sound & video: oss mixer, xmms
Graphics: gqview
Other: galculator, screencap (it's missing the stuff needed to cap *.png files and it's icon), X virtual keyboard, xclock, xterm, rxvt, xircp
System tools: cpu config, date & time, input setup, lan & wifi, light & power, ppp modem, package manager, look & feel, usb, usb keyboard selector, qtconfig, pdaxii config
Utilities: > Panel: app launcher, aterm launcher, battery monitor, cf/sd monitor, clock, screen blanker, volume control, wireless monitor, x virtual keyboard, cpu monitor

Also, there is no "Reboot" on the menu, you have to install the reboot ipk seperately
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156184\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks for the further clarification, Jon_J! Very helpful!

However, what puzzles me is why if this is the case, then why does the list of apps under the 'Installed' tab of the Package Manager show apps such as 'firefox, ROX, etc as being installed?

These apps are not shown under the other tab which lists apps that can be installed???

Something doesn't seem right about this........

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 13, 2007, 08:24:22 pm
firefox is not listed in my pkg manager, maybe you still have some settings left over from the spitz install
I cannot tell you if Rox was on my pkg manager, because I installed it last night, and it is there now because I installed it.

Oh, I forgot, there should be one game under Games:
I removed it last night.

EDIT: Firefox is much too big to ever be included in this kind of setup, at least that is my thinking.
In January, when I first installed akita 5.1 I installed Firefox to my hard drive because it is so big.
EDIT2: My available tab in pkg manager is empty. This is the first time I have looked at that tab.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 13, 2007, 11:16:26 pm
Quote
firefox is not listed in my pkg manager, maybe you still have some settings left over from the spitz install
I cannot tell you if Rox was on my pkg manager, because I installed it last night, and it is there now because I installed it.

Oh, I forgot, there should be one game under Games:
I removed it last night.

EDIT: Firefox is much too big to ever be included in this kind of setup, at least that is my thinking.
In January, when I first installed akita 5.1 I installed Firefox to my hard drive because it is so big.
EDIT2: My available tab in pkg manager is empty. This is the first time I have looked at that tab.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156187\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I think the file that tracks what's installed needs to update itself....hmmm...

thanks, Jon_J
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 14, 2007, 02:14:47 am
Quote
Quote
on a fresh install of akita, there is no Rox or Firefox. I installed mine with the pkg app.
The akita install is supposed to be a minimal install, and there are a lot of things missing that are in the full spitz version.
Just like the difference between Cacko full and Lite
you'll notice, no splash screen and no startup sound, no mplayer, etc, etc...

This is what is installed on my fresh akita install
Office: leafpad, abiword, X pdf
Internet: licq, ppp dialer, slypheed, xchat irc, dillo
Sound & video: oss mixer, xmms
Graphics: gqview
Other: galculator, screencap (it's missing the stuff needed to cap *.png files and it's icon), X virtual keyboard, xclock, xterm, rxvt, xircp
System tools: cpu config, date & time, input setup, lan & wifi, light & power, ppp modem, package manager, look & feel, usb, usb keyboard selector, qtconfig, pdaxii config
Utilities: > Panel: app launcher, aterm launcher, battery monitor, cf/sd monitor, clock, screen blanker, volume control, wireless monitor, x virtual keyboard, cpu monitor

Also, there is no "Reboot" on the menu, you have to install the reboot ipk seperately
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Thanks for the further clarification, Jon_J! Very helpful!

However, what puzzles me is why if this is the case, then why does the list of apps under the 'Installed' tab of the Package Manager show apps such as 'firefox, ROX, etc as being installed?

These apps are not shown under the other tab which lists apps that can be installed???

Something doesn't seem right about this........

 
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when you install pdaXii13 base, you get the same pre-installed apps as pdaXrom beta3.

firefox and rox are pre-installed only in pdaXii13 full.
you will have nothing in the Available tab unless you have a working feed, ie via internet or on your local storage devices.
to make sure what you see in Package Manager is current and up to date, you need to update the Package List by clicking the update button in Package Manager, or running ipkg update from the command line before starting Package Manager...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 02:46:54 am
I noticed Xpdf was updated to 3.02
It won't open my map of the state of Illinois. It tries to open it for about 30 seconds, then shuts down.
This map was designed in Illustrator (according to Acrobat) and is a *.pdf file.
It's basically a Vector drawing, and It's only 1 page and 585 kb

The only Zaurus PDF reader that I have found so far that opens this map at all, is Picsel browser, and Picsel opens it easily.
However, Xpdf opens the SL 6000 Opera manual nicely.
Going to try meanie's zbook3k.pdf (Dec 20 - 2006)
It opened the zbook3k with no problems
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on March 14, 2007, 07:51:09 am
Quote
UPDATE

Re-flashed again and this time did 'patch loader limit' (or something like that) under 'NAND Utils' in installer then did 'Resize Root Partition' and this time used 121MB instead of 128MB (as was noted on Meanie's pdaXii13 page...). Then did Flash ROM....

This time booted up OK - No error messages! All green 'OK'....

Aha!

Thanks for sharing that with us Archimark- turns out that having to use the 'patch 64MB limit' NAND tool was the step I was missing all along in order to get pdaXii13 Sally installed on my c3100- I never thought I'd see it working having lost count of the number of times I've unsuccessfully tried to get it to install without hundreds of errors on boot!

However, you say you get no error messages whereas I'm just getting less than in previous ii13A installs.  Whilst booting, before its starts loading the daemons, I get lots and lots of jffs2_scan CRC failed errors followed by a few complaints about an 'empty flash'. The sshd daemon also gets a big red FAILED but I hardly ever use ssh so thats no showstopper for me.

Choosing 'Reboot' from the mb menu doesn't do anything for me - I have to run reboot from the shell.

Meanie- I thought I read that you had included a workaround for the temperamental keyboard support in this latest release? Where is it? I can't see any new keyboard app in the menus and if I have to open a console and run some command then that would defeat the point- how would I be able to do that without quitting X first? Of course, the keyboard wouldn't be working properly in this situation otherwise I'd have no need to run it and the whole point of this fix was to stop people having to reload X to fix the keyboard and so I expected the fix would be in the form of an app easily accessible through point n' click?

Antkx- I now want to see if I can (finally!) upgrade to Sally full but I'm having problems downloading the latest full hdimage from your site. It says it should be 198MB, which sounds about right, but when I try downloading it it says the file is only 85MB. Could you confirm this?

Back to Menay- I've been watching the size of pdaXii13 full slowly creep up over the last few months. I think it would be good to ensure it doesn't get too big that you can't fit all the install files onto a 256MB card. Just sparing a thought for the storage restricted!  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 14, 2007, 08:25:33 am
Quote
Antkx- I now want to see if I can (finally!) upgrade to Sally full but I'm having problems downloading the latest full hdimage from your site. It says it should be 198MB, which sounds about right, but when I try downloading it it says the file is only 85MB. Could you confirm this?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=156222\")
Just confirming...
If I go here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]
and click on the dload link for "hdimage-full.tgz (198MB) - build5.3.2 beta"
It is a 85.2 MB file that downloads despite it saying that it's 198MB in the HTML on the website.
I FTP'ed in that directory and  confirmed that it's not 198MB in size.
I'm guessing either Meanie hasn't updated the page with the right size yet or it got cut off when he was uploading.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 14, 2007, 08:31:42 am
Quote
Quote
Antkx- I now want to see if I can (finally!) upgrade to Sally full but I'm having problems downloading the latest full hdimage from your site. It says it should be 198MB, which sounds about right, but when I try downloading it it says the file is only 85MB. Could you confirm this?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=156222\")
Just confirming...
If I go here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]
and click on the dload link for "hdimage-full.tgz (198MB) - build5.3.2 beta"
It is a 85.2 MB file that downloads despite it saying that it's 198MB in the HTML on the website.
I FTP'ed in that directory and  confirmed that it's not 198MB in size.
I'm guessing either Meanie hasn't updated the page with the right size yet or it got cut off when he was uploading.
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the file was 192MB last time I checked, but now it is only 82MB
sigh.. need to re-upload...


actually, it's not too bad, i have two little fixes i wanted to add anyway so now I am going to regenerate the new image and upload again. this will take about 5-6 hours...

i will include the latest zbackup which allows you to take a restorable snapshot of your C300, C3100, C3200 and C1000, and maybe others as well...
also an updated datentime python script. this one sets the datte/time so it survives a reboot
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on March 14, 2007, 09:36:49 am
I used the pdaXii13 NAND tools before my last sally install so I've just tried reflashing but using the pdaXrom b3 NAND tools instead to fix/resize my flash before installing pdaXii13 but I'm getting the same jffs2 scan errors and something about 'empty flash'. I also noticed a couple of other worrying things- it said it it mtd couldn't find my flash /home dir and I noticed that ssh was failing due to a corrupt file.

Could my NAND be knackered?? I'm going to try some of the D+M menu tests now....  

What about the keyboard fix? Anyone know? I've not tried the latest full version to see if its in the matchbox menus on that yet.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 14, 2007, 09:44:31 am
Quote
when you install pdaXii13 base, you get the same pre-installed apps as pdaXrom beta3.

firefox and rox are pre-installed only in pdaXii13 full.
you will have nothing in the Available tab unless you have a working feed, ie via internet or on your local storage devices.
to make sure what you see in Package Manager is current and up to date, you need to update the Package List by clicking the update button in Package Manager, or running ipkg update from the command line before starting Package Manager...
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Meanie,

I did try clicking the update button in Package Manager several times...also, did 'ipkg update' from the command line....

Meanwhile, manually installed firefox and rox...firefox works OK! But install of rox is screwy think some library is missing...and top of that now I have the taskbar at the bottom of the display but everything above that is gone now, just the gray hatched background.....

 

UPDATE:
Decided to see what happens if I reboot after enabling pdaXii13 maintenance mode option in 'pdaxii config'....rebooted OK and now I get a smooth gray colored desktop background and it opened up rox as I see a 'home' folder on the desktop.

Although I did get an Error message window saying that rox might not display correct file types as it couldn't find 'shared-mime-info (v.0.9 or later)'......it said that I should download and install it....

In 'Look&Feel' I tried to select the pdaXrom background image but it doesn't change from the gray color....

Starting to think I should just do a fresh install of pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 rather than trying to fix all these weird things going on...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on March 14, 2007, 10:09:49 am
The exact (first of many) error I'm getting early in my pdaXii13 Akita on c3100 bootup at the moment is

mtd: partition "home" is out of reach -- disabled

So I said I'd try going into the D+M menu. I've tried a few times and its not letting me- I can't access the D+M menu so I had a search of the forum and came across this thread:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...520&#entry99520 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15523&st=0&p=99520&#entry99520)

Where sash posts a link to a tool he made to fix a problem with an earlier pdaXrom release had with the c3100. The link he gives is dead but I found a copy here

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distri...c10/sashz/test/ (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/pdaxrom/download/rc10/sashz/test/)

Do you think this tool will let me boot into the DM?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: T3_slider on March 14, 2007, 11:47:18 am
Did you try FN+D+M? (Two utilities are included -- D+M and FN+D+M in case one gets corrupted).
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 14, 2007, 12:05:17 pm
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Did you try FN+D+M? (Two utilities are included -- D+M and FN+D+M in case one gets corrupted).
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Yes, and it's my understanding that the menu brought up by pressing FN+D+M can not be overwritten by a bootloader, etc.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 12:34:57 pm
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also an updated datentime python script. this one sets the datte/time so it survives a reboot
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meanie, could you (please) include this as a separate IPK? Maybe it will fix my clock problems once and for all.
EDIT:
OR if you would, just attach the python script here and tell me where to copy it to.
I looked for it last night and couldn't find the datentime.py file on my Zaurus.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 12:38:27 pm
Quote
Although I did get an Error message window saying that rox might not display correct file types as it couldn't find 'shared-mime-info (v.0.9 or later)'......it said that I should download and install it....
In 'Look&Feel' I tried to select the pdaXrom background image but it doesn't change from the gray color....

Starting to think I should just do a fresh install of pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 rather than trying to fix all these weird things going on...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=156244\")
Download shared-mime-info_0.20_armv5tel.ipk from meanie's pdaxrom feed.
Depends: glib2, libxml2 (I think libxml2 is already installed)
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/[/url]

Rox doesn't use Look&feel to change the background, this is only available in openbox.
In Rox, right click background (Fn+tap), then select Backdrop
EDIT:
Also, Rox has a comprehensive page of options. I think you can relocate the taskbar if you want.
right click background (Fn+tap), then select ROX-Filer > Options
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on March 14, 2007, 12:46:46 pm
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Quote
Finally got pdaxii13 install on my C1000. Everything runs ok, and I can install ipks ok. Problem now is the Brightness and Zoom shortcut key don't work?

Anybody with C1000 having the same problem?

VirtusRex
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I believe Meanie remapped some keys in pdaxii13.  I believe the function key is now mapped for generating F1 - F10 (function keys, kinda makes sense) using 1-0.  Try the kanji key next to the dash to activate zoom and brightness.
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Yep, the kanji key works for brightness control, just need to figure out what the zoom control is.

Thanks Drake01,

VirtusRex
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: danboid on March 14, 2007, 01:01:47 pm
Quote
Quote
Did you try FN+D+M? (Two utilities are included -- D+M and FN+D+M in case one gets corrupted).
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Yes, and it's my understanding that the menu brought up by pressing FN+D+M can not be overwritten by a bootloader, etc.
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Yes, I've tried Fn+D+M too, also without success. So, I followed sashz instructions and I noticed that my OK + Resume ('Install') menu looks a bit different after doing so (maybe I imagined this?) but it hasn't made any difference in getting the Diagnostic Menu up. I've tried- both D+M and Fn+D+M a few times again since with no luck, it just starts booting pdaX.

Hope I don't need to have to get the NAND replaced as I certainly can't afford that for some time  

EDIT

As I understand it, option Number 2 in the Zs maintenance menu (which I CAN access) contains 3 'Error Checking' options but I don't know what they do. Which number checks the integrity of my NAND, if such an option is there?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 14, 2007, 03:19:26 pm
Quote
Quote
Although I did get an Error message window saying that rox might not display correct file types as it couldn't find 'shared-mime-info (v.0.9 or later)'......it said that I should download and install it....
In 'Look&Feel' I tried to select the pdaXrom background image but it doesn't change from the gray color....

Starting to think I should just do a fresh install of pdaXii13 v.5.3.2 rather than trying to fix all these weird things going on...
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=156244\")
Download shared-mime-info_0.20_armv5tel.ipk from meanie's pdaxrom feed.
Depends: glib2, libxml2 (I think libxml2 is already installed)
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/[/url]

Rox doesn't use Look&feel to change the background, this is only available in openbox.
In Rox, right click background (Fn+tap), then select Backdrop
EDIT:
Also, Rox has a comprehensive page of options. I think you can relocate the taskbar if you want.
right click background (Fn+tap), then select ROX-Filer > Options
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As always, Jon_J, THANKS for all your help!

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 14, 2007, 03:21:44 pm
I'm not trying to patronize you, but, have you tried getting into the Fn + D + M menu before?
If not make sure you (I hope I'm remembering this right):
unplug power, remove battery cover, remove battery, press the reset button, press and hold down Fn + D + M insert the power cord...wait for it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 03:37:45 pm
Just one question, after reading the below section on the "pdaXii13 build 5.3.x" post at tyrannozaurus, I thought resuming my Z would be faster.
It still seems to take the same amount of time as it always has. It now takes 8 seconds. I didn't actually "time it" in earlier installs.
Quote
meanie (on tyrannozaurus)
rotate script
the rotate script x11scr has been updated to utilise the rox-backdrop script (rox-bset) to change the background image on rotation. also, closing the display will turn off the backlight. re-opening the display or resuming the zaurus will not cause the screen rotation from running several times and thus will be faster. this fix is included in the latest rotate package.
(applies to base and full)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on March 14, 2007, 03:45:07 pm
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the file was 192MB last time I checked, but now it is only 82MB
sigh.. need to re-upload...


actually, it's not too bad, i have two little fixes i wanted to add anyway so now I am going to regenerate the new image and upload again. this will take about 5-6 hours...

i will include the latest zbackup which allows you to take a restorable snapshot of your C300, C3100, C3200 and C1000, and maybe others as well...
also an updated datentime python script. this one sets the datte/time so it survives a reboot
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=156230\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


Is the latest zbackup in your beta3 feed?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 14, 2007, 04:27:52 pm
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Yep, the kanji key works for brightness control, just need to figure out what the zoom control is.
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Okay, I dragged my Z over and tried the zoom control using the kanji key (which I believe Meanie has referred to as the "Super" key) and the 2 key.  It zooms for me using this combination, and un-zooms using Super+1.

Have you tried these?  

According to pdaxcfg, I'm using pdaXii13 build5.3 "Sally", and it works for me.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 04:46:42 pm
The super key (right kanji key next to the dash) works for me for all 4 functions.
kanji+1 = zoom out
kanji+2 = zoom in
kanji+3 = bright-down
kanji+4 = bright-up

Also, if you want to find your version of pdaxii13, type the following in a console:
---------
version
---------
EDIT:
meanie, if you read this, why do I get this when I type version?
pdaxii13 build5.3.2 (Alice) .....
This must be an error. I just exited X and the display says:
pdaxii13 build5.3.2 "Sally"
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 14, 2007, 07:10:15 pm
read this:

http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html)

the key mappings is described here and other useful info as well...

JonJ: you found another bug!

edit /usr/bin/version

change

-f1-2 ($N)

to

-f1-3
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 07:24:37 pm
That fixed it meanie, it now shows:
pdaxii13 build5.3.2 "Sally" - Linux 2.4.20 for SHARP Borzoi (XScale-PXA270)

I know this is trivial. I looked for Borzoi, so I could change it to Terrier
That must be gotten from the processor, or cpuinfo, or Hardware.
I'm not really concerned about this, just an observation. Don't bother to reply to this.  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 07:51:10 pm
I'm also getting a new error that I haven't noticed before.

Cannot remove child "stab" ino #6516 because it doesn't exist
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 14, 2007, 07:55:09 pm
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I'm also getting a new error that I haven't noticed before.

Cannot remove child "stab" ino #6516 because it doesn't exist
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ignore those jffs2 errors or dont use the nand....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 14, 2007, 07:56:50 pm
OK, thanks. I didn't know what it was, it comes just after the removing inode messages.
no problem.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 16, 2007, 02:03:27 pm
Has anyone been able to get a Symbol Spectrum24 or a Socket Low-Power WLAN CF working under pdaXii13?

I copied the Symbol firmware files (symbol_sp24t_prim_fw & symbol_sp24t_sec_fw) under /etc/pcmcia/firmware/ as Meanie suggested here (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/492#comment)but dmesg says that it can't find the firmware.  My firmware was copied over from a working copy of Cacko.  Cardctl identifies the card as:

Code: [Select]
product info: "Symbol", "Spectrum24 LA4100 Series WLAN PC Card", "1.00"
manfid: 0x026c, 0x0001
function: 6 (network)

Dmesg shows the following after insertion:

Code: [Select]
orinoco 0.15rc2HEAD (David Gibson , Pavel Roskin , et all)
spectrum_cs 0.15rc2HEAD (Pavel Roskin
, David Gibson
, et al)
spectrum_cs: Cannot find firmware: symbol_sp24t_prim_fw
spectrum_cs: Firmware download failed
hermes @ IO 0xf6000000: Timeout waiting for card to reset (reg=0x0000)!
wlan0: failed to initialize firmware (err = -110)
spectrum_cs: register_netdev() failed

So does anyone have a magic recipe that can fix this bearing in mind that I can be pretty clueless at times?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 16, 2007, 07:32:45 pm
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Has anyone been able to get a Symbol Spectrum24 or a Socket Low-Power WLAN CF working under pdaXii13?
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I've got a Spectrum24 running on pdaxii13 w/o any problems.

Check out [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19087&view=findpost&p=124796]this[/url] thread.  I'm pretty sure that installing the orinoco-modules.tar.gz stuff was all that I had to do.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 17, 2007, 12:43:12 pm
Thanks for the suggestion Drake01 but I used kaoru's solution here. (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/492#comment)  

The problem is that pdaXii13 is missing three files for this to work.  The two spectrum24 firmware files and the firmware.alert file.  I grabbed the firmware files from a working Cacko setup.  The firmware files need to go under /etc/pcmcia/firmware/ and the firmware.alert file under /etc/hotplug/

You then need to edit the firmware.alert to the correct firmware dir which is /etc/pcmcia/firmware/ and then restart.  

This way you will be using the hostap drivers instead of the older spectrum drivers and it will be bound to the proper wlan0 instead of eth0.

I would attach these to the thread but attachments are broken at the moment.  I have offered these to Meanie so, hopefully they willl be rolled into the next pdaXii13 release.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 19, 2007, 06:05:54 pm
pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) build 5.3.3 is out.

Fixes/Updates for this release are:

- version script now reports correct edition of pdaXii13
- added xraise
- updated rotate script
- added firmware.agent hotplug script and also spectrum firmware
- updated hostap_cs.conf to recognie sandisk128 wifi card
- updated timezone mappings in datentime.py

Note that pdaXii13 Spitz (Alice) is still at build 5.3.2 and hence hdimage-full.tgz will be build 5.3.2
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ling on March 19, 2007, 06:33:12 pm
Meanie,

I am getting confused between the different pdaXii13 releases. Is there any reason that we all (SL-C3x00) should not just run this release? Those of us with a MD can put our swap file there and install files there. Otherwise, which is the correct and most current release for the 3100? Thanks.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 19, 2007, 10:05:40 pm
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Meanie,

I am getting confused between the different pdaXii13 releases. Is there any reason that we all (SL-C3x00) should not just run this release? Those of us with a MD can put our swap file there and install files there. Otherwise, which is the correct and most current release for the 3100? Thanks.
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C3100 and C3200 should be using pdaXii13 Akita plus hdimage-full.tgz from pdaXii13 Spitz

Since the pdaXii13 Akita image is much smaller (only 50MB) vs 200MB for hdimage-full.tgz, it is much faster to generate and upload. This is just the way things are. The hdimage-full.tgz needs more time to generate and upload...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 19, 2007, 11:32:47 pm
just flashed and hdinstallled the latest version (5.3.3) I could find at tyrnnozaurus.  really nice work Meanie, thanks.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 22, 2007, 04:35:19 pm
Hope someone can please advise....more weirdness happening here....

Was running Sally v.5.3.3 on my 3200....

Overall, things seemed to be OK....until I tried using 'zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs' (can see my separate thread on this...)

Someone suggested going back to v.5.3.2 to get this to work....did that...but still no go....

Then, noticed that I get the following error messages during bootup:

Code: [Select]
Starting SD Services:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted filesystems.

FATAL Error: privoxy not found


Seems like the first message relates to problem of using zgcc??

Other weird thing is that I thought I'd try using v.5.3.3 again, but when I re-downloaded file from

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

and re-flashed ROM, it shows that it's v.5.3.2 even though I'm downloading from page above and clicking on the 'initrd.bin' file link that says build 5.3.3.

So, need help with several things:

1) How to get rid of mount error message??

2) Where to get build 5.3.3 again?

3) Should I use build 5.3.3 or 5.3.2??

4) After ROM Install, it asks me if I want to 'migrate configuration to /etc on NAND, should I say 'Yes' or 'No'?? I said 'Yes'.

5) After Item 4 above, it asks me if I want to 'migrate home to /home on NAND, should I say 'Yes' or 'No'?? I said 'Yes'.


Thanks for any and all help!

Mark
Frustrated pdaXii13 flasher....

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 22, 2007, 07:45:02 pm
I said yes on everything. It seems to work. BUT:
This time I flashed from sd

 I resized my nand to 112-- I thought 121 was maybe causing problems. That was probably just me, though

My 3100 also thinks it is 5.3.2 now (thought it was 5.5.3 before, used the same image I think it has to do with the flash, not the taball image )

Installing new ipks i s weird--  They seem to have to go to /mnt/ide  and I have to append the path to use 'em
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 22, 2007, 08:49:29 pm
Calling Meanie!!

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 22, 2007, 09:07:02 pm
fixed the ipk thing--edited ipkg.conf, told it that ide was /media/fakeroot and that root was /media/fakeroot. Now even the gui works fine.

Your error message usually means you are trying to mount a corrupt squashfs on the loop device.

Squash a small text file or something simple and zsee whay happens when you do a mount -o loop mytextfile.squashfs /mnt/whatever_you_feel_like_calling_this

I bet it mounts fine, and you won't get the error
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 23, 2007, 10:49:19 pm
pdaXii13 Akita (Sally) build 5.3.3 rev3 is now online for download...
note that you can use the pdaXii13-custom.tgz to upgrade if you don't want to reflash...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 24, 2007, 01:49:41 am
Thanks Meanie.
I'm going to try the full on SD, too: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 24, 2007, 02:00:55 am
Quote
Thanks Meanie.
I'm going to try the full on SD, too: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=157080\")

make sure you read the updated info here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 24, 2007, 02:57:02 am
Quote
Quote
Thanks Meanie.
I'm going to try the full on SD, too: http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/74#comment-1525)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=157080\")

make sure you read the updated info here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157082\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Got it thanks.
I'll back up my orig /home and /etc just in case.
I'm extracting the file now... At first I got a bunch of (I think, nonfatal) error messages about changing permissions to #0 ( I can't remember is it flew by fast) and for the rest of the files it's saying implausibly old timestamp 1969...
the last line was error exit delay from previous errors
Not sure if any of these are critical errors... but I'll try it out and see how it gos.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 24, 2007, 03:04:33 am
antikx;
When I did my first full hd install a coulpe days ago I got those messages.  the install went ok otherwise, or so it seemed.  it eventually turned out that I had problems with my image (entirely on my end--incomplete copy). You might consider doing a more thorough than usual sanity check after installation.

otoh, I just got a fresh 5.3.3 (initrd & hdimage-full & latest zgcc) installed. added a few packeges, started some compiling.  This setup is really, really nice  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 24, 2007, 03:17:53 am
hmmm.. unless I goofed up /mnt/card2/home and /mnt/card2/etc are too big to copy over to flash.
EDIT: ya, I must have goofed. they are pretty small.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 24, 2007, 04:30:17 am
I tried the pager.  It is certainly a good idea, but the time I tried it I had firefox loaded up with something or other, and wanted a different workspace. I used the pager to change  workspaces, and lost my panel. I was able to bring another up easily enough using the looknfeel applet ( the menu button still worked).  Is the loss of tha panel expected when paging to different workspaces? Was it maybe due to my system being stressed by firefox and some hideous scripting and media on a page?



ANother issue or two, but more related to other software.  Compiling the latest Nvu failed with an error about libxpcom (which was being compiled). any help on this? are there dependencies built in, or that come as a part of deerpark that might be causing troubles?

for now, I'll just install Mozilla from the feeds, but Nvu would be pretty cool, if nothing else. Be nice to have a stand alone wysiwyg page editor on top of a lamp stack on the pda, you know?

and along the same lines aren't we getting due for updating firefox (when ff2 is considered stable, anyway)?

edit: I see the mozilla in the feeds is pretty current.  excellent!

Augh. edit again:  I see the lead on Nvu has moved away from Nvu and on to making a stand alone composer for mozilla.org.  Should I forget about compiling Nvu, then?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 24, 2007, 04:36:50 am
about the panel, there are 4 desktops and the only one with the panel is number 1.
Use your "super" key + right arrow/left arrow to switch between desktops.
To deactivate the 4 desktop graphic, just click task-applet again. This is only necessary on desktop #1, on other desktops, clicking the white box near the bottom shuts it off.
I hope this doesn't sound confusing, but once you try it, you'll get it.

EDIT: I may have been wrong about switching desktops. I think the right arrow/left arrow used to be the way to switch desktops, before using this new updated tasks-applet.
Now, switching desktops uses all 4 direction keys.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 24, 2007, 04:39:37 am
Quote
I tried the pager.  It is certainly a good idea, but the time I tried it I had firefox loaded up with something or other, and wanted a different workspace. I used the pager to change  workspaces, and lost my panel. I was able to bring another up easily enough using the looknfeel applet ( the menu button still worked).  Is the loss of tha panel expected when paging to different workspaces? Was it maybe due to my system being stressed by firefox and some hideous scripting and media on a page?



ANother issue or two, but more related to other software.  Compiling the latest Nvu failed with an error about libxpcom (which was being compiled). any help on this? are there dependencies built in, or that come as a part of deerpark that might be causing troubles?

for now, I'll just install Mozilla from the feeds, but Nvu would be pretty cool, if nothing else. Be nice to have a stand alone wysiwyg page editor on top of a lamp stack on the pda, you know?

and along the same lines aren't we getting due for updating firefox (when ff2 is considered stable, anyway)?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157088\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

the pager doesn't move with you when switching between pages. i think there is an option in openbox to have the same app displayed on all virtual desktops. i think that option needs to be enabled for the pager if you are using the standalone  pager, not sure what to do about the embedded pager n=in the task applet...

as for firefox2, i got it compiled but it crashes upon launch....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 24, 2007, 05:00:09 am
I have a question for meanie. If I use the updated tasks-aplet, do I also need to download the pager applet?
What is the difference between just using the pager alone, or using the upgraded tasks applet?

I have always been able to switch desktops with the directional keys plus the "super" key.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 24, 2007, 05:40:24 am
Quote
I have a question for meanie. If I use the updated tasks-aplet, do I also need to download the pager applet?
What is the difference between just using the pager alone, or using the upgraded tasks applet?

I have always been able to switch desktops with the directional keys plus the "super" key.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157093\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

the standalone pager and the pager in the task applet are independant of each other although they stem from the same code. it just gives you the option to run as part of an applet or as a standalone application. both do exactly the same thing. the diference is one is tied to the taskbar with the applet, the other can be moved around freely on the desktop...
you can always use the keys to move between desktops. the pager just gives you the ability to do it with a gui, ie use your stylus to do it
not a new feature per say, just more options on how to get to the virtual desktops...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 24, 2007, 02:44:26 pm
Quote
Hope someone can please advise....more weirdness happening here....

Was running Sally v.5.3.3 on my 3200....

Overall, things seemed to be OK....until I tried using 'zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs' (can see my separate thread on this...)

Someone suggested going back to v.5.3.2 to get this to work....did that...but still no go....

Then, noticed that I get the following error messages during bootup:

Code: [Select]
Starting SD Services:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted filesystems.

Error: group privoxy not found [FAILED]

[Snip]

So, need help with several things:

1) How to get rid of mount error message??

[Snip]

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157004\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, downloaded and reflashed with latest Sally v.5.3.3 rev3 and still get same mount error shown up above....

Also, deleted zgcc squashfs file on card and won't use it unitl Meanie updates file on webpage....

Thanks,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 24, 2007, 03:26:14 pm
Quote
Quote
Hope someone can please advise....more weirdness happening here....

Was running Sally v.5.3.3 on my 3200....

Overall, things seemed to be OK....until I tried using 'zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs' (can see my separate thread on this...)

Someone suggested going back to v.5.3.2 to get this to work....did that...but still no go....

Then, noticed that I get the following error messages during bootup:

Code: [Select]
Starting SD Services:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted filesystems.

Error: group privoxy not found [FAILED]

[Snip]

So, need help with several things:

1) How to get rid of mount error message??

[Snip]

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157004\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, downloaded and reflashed with latest Sally v.5.3.3 rev3 and still get same mount error shown up above....

Also, deleted zgcc squashfs file on card and won't use it unitl Meanie updates file on webpage....

Thanks,

Mark
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157114\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

your problem has always been a corrupted zgcc squashfs file. upgrading to a newer version of pdaXii13 wont fix your corrupted zgcc file unless you actually download a non corrupted zgcc squashfs file....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 24, 2007, 06:14:20 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
Hope someone can please advise....more weirdness happening here....

Was running Sally v.5.3.3 on my 3200....

Overall, things seemed to be OK....until I tried using 'zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs' (can see my separate thread on this...)

Someone suggested going back to v.5.3.2 to get this to work....did that...but still no go....

Then, noticed that I get the following error messages during bootup:

Code: [Select]
Starting SD Services:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted filesystems.

Error: group privoxy not found [FAILED]

[Snip]

So, need help with several things:

1) How to get rid of mount error message??

[Snip]

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157004\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, downloaded and reflashed with latest Sally v.5.3.3 rev3 and still get same mount error shown up above....

Also, deleted zgcc squashfs file on card and won't use it unitl Meanie updates file on webpage....

Thanks,

Mark
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157114\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

your problem has always been a corrupted zgcc squashfs file. upgrading to a newer version of pdaXii13 wont fix your corrupted zgcc file unless you actually download a non corrupted zgcc squashfs file....
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157117\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


UPDATE

Well...as usual, you were right, Meanie!!...

I was mixed up...(I plead temporary insanity due to the tooth I had extracted the other day...)....

The 'zgcc' file that I deleted was the one on my CF card not the one in '/data'....

So, deleted that one and reinstalled one from a fresh download and voila! No more 'mount' error message!

However, I still get the error message about 'group privoxy not found [FAILED]' during bootup....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 24, 2007, 08:36:26 pm
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Hope someone can please advise....more weirdness happening here....

Was running Sally v.5.3.3 on my 3200....

Overall, things seemed to be OK....until I tried using 'zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs' (can see my separate thread on this...)

Someone suggested going back to v.5.3.2 to get this to work....did that...but still no go....

Then, noticed that I get the following error messages during bootup:

Code: [Select]
Starting SD Services:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted filesystems.

Error: group privoxy not found [FAILED]

[Snip]

So, need help with several things:

1) How to get rid of mount error message??

[Snip]

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157004\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, downloaded and reflashed with latest Sally v.5.3.3 rev3 and still get same mount error shown up above....

Also, deleted zgcc squashfs file on card and won't use it unitl Meanie updates file on webpage....

Thanks,

Mark
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157114\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

your problem has always been a corrupted zgcc squashfs file. upgrading to a newer version of pdaXii13 wont fix your corrupted zgcc file unless you actually download a non corrupted zgcc squashfs file....
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157117\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


UPDATE

Well...as usual, you were right, Meanie!!...

I was mixed up...(I plead temporary insanity due to the tooth I had extracted the other day...)....

The 'zgcc' file that I deleted was the one on my CF card not the one in '/data'....

So, deleted that one and reinstalled one from a fresh download and voila! No more 'mount' error message!

However, I still get the error message about 'group privoxy not found [FAILED]' during bootup....
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157125\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


do the following:

echo "privoxy:x:501:" >> /etc/group
echo "privoxy:x:501:100:privoxy:/home:/bin/sh" >> /etc/passwd
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 24, 2007, 09:00:11 pm
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do the following:

echo "privoxy:x:501:" >> /etc/group
echo "privoxy:x:501:100:privoxy:/home:/bin/sh" >> /etc/passwd
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157130\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yup, that did it, Meanie!

Thanks!

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 26, 2007, 06:57:05 pm
A few questions please....

1) I downloaded and installed the latest 'Sally, build 5.3.3 rev3' but when I boot up voice says that it's v.5.3.2?

Also, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice' on reboot, after 'starting X....'

If I open up 'pdaXii13 Config, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice'....

Is this just inaccurate?

2) When I click on app icons on the desktop they open the associated app, except for FireFox. Just get error message....

What is easy way to associate icon with app to get this working?


Thanks!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 26, 2007, 10:01:50 pm
Quote
A few questions please....

1) I downloaded and installed the latest 'Sally, build 5.3.3 rev3' but when I boot up voice says that it's v.5.3.2?

Also, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice' on reboot, after 'starting X....'

If I open up 'pdaXii13 Config, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice'....

Is this just inaccurate?

2) When I click on app icons on the desktop they open the associated app, except for FireFox. Just get error message....

What is easy way to associate icon with app to get this working?


Thanks!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157253\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


I have both of those problems with the original 5.3.3 (not rev 3) on my 3200.  

I ignore number 1.    

I fixed number 2 by deleting the original Firefox shortcut on the desktop and dragging and dropping the working X menu shortcut on to the desktop.  One of the best features of ROX in my opinion.  

Make sure you make a backup copy of the firefox.png too in case you accidentally ipkg upgrade firefox and get that nasty looking 80s pseudo-fire icon.  Yeech!!  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 26, 2007, 10:12:57 pm
Quote
Quote
A few questions please....

1) I downloaded and installed the latest 'Sally, build 5.3.3 rev3' but when I boot up voice says that it's v.5.3.2?

Also, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice' on reboot, after 'starting X....'

If I open up 'pdaXii13 Config, it shows 'build 5.3.2 Alice'....

Is this just inaccurate?

2) When I click on app icons on the desktop they open the associated app, except for FireFox. Just get error message....

What is easy way to associate icon with app to get this working?


Thanks!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157253\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


I have both of those problems with the original 5.3.3 (not rev 3) on my 3200.  

I ignore number 1.    

I fixed number 2 by deleting the original Firefox shortcut on the desktop and dragging and dropping the working X menu shortcut on to the desktop.  One of the best features of ROX in my opinion.  

Make sure you make a backup copy of the firefox.png too in case you accidentally ipkg upgrade firefox and get that nasty looking 80s pseudo-fire icon.  Yeech!!  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157257\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Thanks for the clarification and tips, HoloVector!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 27, 2007, 12:53:29 am
Quote
A few questions please....

1) I downloaded and installed the latest 'Sally, build 5.3.3 rev3' but when I boot up voice says that it's v.5.3.2?
I found out where it was being run from and found it pointed to this file: /home/root/welcome.txt
I recommend changing it to:
ArchiMark is king monkey!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: merli on March 27, 2007, 02:53:35 am
Hello

Found some annoying behaviours (let's say bugs) in pdaxii13 5.3.3 version.

1) Sometimes X freezes, sometimes at work (compiling in ssh connected through usb net) sometimes after suspend. CTRL+ALT+Backspace won't work. what actually help is kill X session from ssh session and from that session startx again then X works again. But what to do when I don't have Zaurus connected to PC. Reboot is not actually right solution for me. Stange is that only X are freezed everything on background is working. Problem appeared when I started using swapfile on my 4 GB SD card Pretec Chetah 133x.

2) Justreader does not work in CP1250 encoding. Also FBreader didn't work from scratch. After I instaled glibc-gconv-cp1250_2.2.5_armv5tel.ipk FBreader started working but justreader no. In pdaxrom beta1 justreader worked like charm from scratch. Something changed in methods displaying chracterd from beta1 to beta3. Maybe bug in justreader, but I don't know what to fix.

3) I tried run my binary of duke3d (that with broken save/load function (i want to fix that game)) in pdaxrom beta1 it worked. In pdaxii13 i got SDL Parachute Floating point exception. Did something changed in method how SDL manage floating point between beta1 and beta3?

Can anyone (more experienced than me) duplicate those errors and find out reasons? Most Annoying error is no 1. FBreader works for me (I liked justreader more) and I can live without duke3d :-), but reseting Z quite often after suspend in really no good.

Last comment: In there _any_ really any possibility to synchronize any of many  PIMs appz in pdaxrom with MS outlook 2003 or directly with MS exchange? I know that evolution has plugin to web interface to exchange. Sync PIM with exchange is really only missing feature from sharp rom.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 27, 2007, 08:16:36 am
Since moving to 5.3.3 I too have been noticing more X freezeups after a resume. The previous version I was using, 5.3.2 or 5.3.1. (I can't remember which one, sorry), rarely had that problem.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 27, 2007, 09:58:59 am
Quote
Quote
A few questions please....

1) I downloaded and installed the latest 'Sally, build 5.3.3 rev3' but when I boot up voice says that it's v.5.3.2?
I found out where it was being run from and found it pointed to this file: /home/root/welcome.txt
I recommend changing it to:
ArchiMark is king monkey!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157262\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'll bet you say that to all the monkeys!

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 27, 2007, 10:26:27 am
Quote
I found out where it was being run from and found it pointed to this file: /home/root/welcome.txt
I recommend changing it to:
ArchiMark is king monkey!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157262\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Nice Tip Antikx!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 27, 2007, 11:00:15 am
Quote
Since moving to 5.3.3 I too have been noticing more X freezeups after a resume. The previous version I was using, 5.3.2 or 5.3.1. (I can't remember which one, sorry), rarely had that problem.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157276\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I wasn't seeing that with the original 5.3.3 or with what I'm stuck with at the moment.  See below.

I ipk upgraded my 5.3.3 after rev3 was announced.  That was a mistake since package list for Meanie's Custom feed seems to be unreadable.  That means that the upgrade was from the combined Beta3 feed only.  I ended up with a mutant distro.  My Firefox, GTK2, GPE PIM were "upgraded" for the worse.  

Most of the fonts reverted to 10 point both in the WM and the Apps.  I have fixed most of the fonts back to 14 point but, FireFox is stuck at 12 point  

FireFox got that god awful 80s fire icon.  Luckily, I had backed up that icon after I had that ugly icon show up on my 1000 a few weeks ago.  FireFox also now refuses to automatically login me in on the oesf forums.  Auto-login works fine with tyrannozaurus.

The GPE PIMs are just brain damaged now.  GPE Contacts refuses to import a CSV contact dump.  GPE Announce is stuck in a loop and notifies me of the same appointments over and over everytime I resume.  Dismissing does not help.  I also can't get into GPE Calendar because it locks up on startup with a lovely blank window so, I can't delete that offending appointments.  I have to go into the Process Manager and play Whack-A-Mole with all the instances of GPE Calendar and GPE Announce that are running.  The offending processes respawn a few times with GPE Announce looping the notifications again.  If I can't fix this soon I'm going to have ipkg remove all the GPE PIMs because it does not look good in a meeting when your Z goes psycho everytime you resume it.    

In case you are wondering why I did an ipkg upgrade.  Besides wanting to get Meanie's rev3 fixes (especially the TimeZone ones).  I was having trouble with GPE Announce not waking up my Z for alarms and I was hoping that an upgrade would fix that.  Boy, was I ever wrong!  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 27, 2007, 03:58:36 pm
Sounds like you have a FrankenROM.
I guess you'll have to reflash, hey? Sorry dude.
I always see reflashing as a way to get better organized and document what I do post-install, but you seem like you're more organized then me so maybe this is just a pain-in-the-butt for you.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 27, 2007, 05:25:27 pm
Quote
Sounds like you have a FrankenROM.
I guess you'll have to reflash, hey? Sorry dude.
I always see reflashing as a way to get better organized and document what I do post-install, but you seem like you're more organized then me so maybe this is just a pain-in-the-butt for you.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157315\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I'm hoping I can avoid a reflash right now so, pain-in-the-butt is right term.  My Microdrive in my 3200 has about 3GB of ScummVM data files on it.  I'm not looking forward to recopying that over. Both of my Zs are in a bit of state.  

The 1000 is in guinea pig mode right now (I've been experimenting with themes and PIMs on it) and it is plenty broke.  I was planning on resflashing it first but, I just have to find the time.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 27, 2007, 06:03:06 pm
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Since moving to 5.3.3 I too have been noticing more X freezeups after a resume. The previous version I was using, 5.3.2 or 5.3.1. (I can't remember which one, sorry), rarely had that problem.
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Out of curiosity, just how does X "freeze" upon resuming?  Does X start and then freeze after the screen is painted?  Or does it just remain dark?  If the latter, have you waited a few minutes to see if it does eventually wake?

I'm asking because I installed the full app package to my SD card.  I noticed that my Z didn't seem to want to wake from resume, but then I decided to just let it sit for a while.  Eventually (might have been close to ten minutes later) it did start.  I'm pretty sure that the problem is that apm was ejecting the SD card upon suspend.  When resuming, it would remount the SD card and then run some process that seems to update all the links for all the packages installed to SD.  This really takes a while if you have everything installed, like I did.

My solution was to go into /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d and remove the links to the cardctl script.  Since I got into the habit of always ejecting my CF device prior to suspending, this works for me.  My SD card is essentially a permanent fixture and shouldn't require unmounting.

After making this change, my Z resumes very quickly and I haven't noticed any freezes.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 27, 2007, 06:12:22 pm
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The GPE PIMs are just brain damaged now.  GPE Contacts refuses to import a CSV contact dump.  GPE Announce is stuck in a loop and notifies me of the same appointments over and over everytime I resume.  Dismissing does not help.  I also can't get into GPE Calendar because it locks up on startup with a lovely blank window so, I can't delete that offending appointments.  I have to go into the Process Manager and play Whack-A-Mole with all the instances of GPE Calendar and GPE Announce that are running.  The offending processes respawn a few times with GPE Announce looping the notifications again.  If I can't fix this soon I'm going to have ipkg remove all the GPE PIMs because it does not look good in a meeting when your Z goes psycho everytime you resume it.   
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Same problem here with the recurring alarm.  GPE Calendar was working fine before I upgraded to builds 5.3.2 & 5.3.3.  I haven't noticed the "blank window" issue, but I've also been using the calendar off my desktop more than my Z because of the annoyance of the alarm.

And I don't believe it's actually an "offending appointment."  When the alarm pops for me, it always shows the current date and time with no description or anything else.  I don't think an appointment actually exists, I think it's just throwing an alarm out for the current time.  No idea how that bug got introduced.  

BTW, did the import feature ever work on Contacts?  I had to build scripts for sqlite to force my contact info in because import was broken when I started using Contact in beta 3.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 12:31:27 am
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The GPE PIMs are just brain damaged now.  GPE Contacts refuses to import a CSV contact dump.  GPE Announce is stuck in a loop and notifies me of the same appointments over and over everytime I resume.  Dismissing does not help.  I also can't get into GPE Calendar because it locks up on startup with a lovely blank window so, I can't delete that offending appointments.  I have to go into the Process Manager and play Whack-A-Mole with all the instances of GPE Calendar and GPE Announce that are running.  The offending processes respawn a few times with GPE Announce looping the notifications again.  If I can't fix this soon I'm going to have ipkg remove all the GPE PIMs because it does not look good in a meeting when your Z goes psycho everytime you resume it.    
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Same problem here with the recurring alarm.  GPE Calendar was working fine before I upgraded to builds 5.3.2 & 5.3.3.  I haven't noticed the "blank window" issue, but I've also been using the calendar off my desktop more than my Z because of the annoyance of the alarm.

And I don't believe it's actually an "offending appointment."  When the alarm pops for me, it always shows the current date and time with no description or anything else.  I don't think an appointment actually exists, I think it's just throwing an alarm out for the current time.  No idea how that bug got introduced.  

BTW, did the import feature ever work on Contacts?  I had to build scripts for sqlite to force my contact info in because import was broken when I started using Contact in beta 3.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one with brain damaged GPE PIM apps.  You are correct I haven't gotten a successful import out of the Contacts app.   And found out my Package Manager is hosed too.

The damage is too extensive I'm going have to reflash.  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: merli on March 28, 2007, 03:00:49 am
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Since moving to 5.3.3 I too have been noticing more X freezeups after a resume. The previous version I was using, 5.3.2 or 5.3.1. (I can't remember which one, sorry), rarely had that problem.
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Out of curiosity, just how does X "freeze" upon resuming?  Does X start and then freeze after the screen is painted?  Or does it just remain dark?  If the latter, have you waited a few minutes to see if it does eventually wake?

I'm asking because I installed the full app package to my SD card.  I noticed that my Z didn't seem to want to wake from resume, but then I decided to just let it sit for a while.  Eventually (might have been close to ten minutes later) it did start.  I'm pretty sure that the problem is that apm was ejecting the SD card upon suspend.  When resuming, it would remount the SD card and then run some process that seems to update all the links for all the packages installed to SD.  This really takes a while if you have everything installed, like I did.

My solution was to go into /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d and remove the links to the cardctl script.  Since I got into the habit of always ejecting my CF device prior to suspending, this works for me.  My SD card is essentially a permanent fixture and shouldn't require unmounting.

After making this change, my Z resumes very quickly and I haven't noticed any freezes.
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Seems to me X are working ... I can move cursor on screen, I see whole desktop but any other input (screen taps, keyboard) is not responding. I can even suspend and resune again. Only way is to kill X from ssh and startx from ssh or reset by batery switch.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 10:38:22 am
Am I having fun yet?    

I reflashed early this morning and did the HD image copy.  When pdaXii13 X session came up I was greeted with a plain gray ROX desktop with only a Home shortcut; not the withatwist background and multiple app shortcuts that I got last time.  The X menu is fully populated though.  Is this normal for 5.3.3?  

Also the GIMP is giving me an oversized User Installation screen when I fire it up.  When I Alt-drag to the Continue button and tap it, I get a "Please wait while your personal GIMP folder is being created...." and then it just sits there.  

The Date and Time is still causing me grief but, that might be my problem.  I set my local time then chose my time zone so, I lost 6 hours when I rebooted (trying to see if I could get the full ROX experience like last time).  I think I should have set the time to London Time (GMT 0) then set my local time zone and restarted.  In theory that should set the correct time for my time zone, right?  

Is anyone else seeing these issues?  Was my HDImage file corrupted?


The good news is my Symbol Spectrum24 Wireless CF card was plug and play.  Yay!  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 28, 2007, 11:46:12 am
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Am I having fun yet?     

I reflashed early this morning and did the HD image copy.  When pdaXii13 X session came up I was greeted with a plain gray ROX desktop with only a Home shortcut; not the withatwist background and multiple app shortcuts that I got last time.  The X menu is fully populated though.  Is this normal for 5.3.3?  

Also the GIMP is giving me an oversized User Installation screen when I fire it up.  When I Alt-drag to the Continue button and tap it, I get a "Please wait while your personal GIMP folder is being created...." and then it just sits there.  

The Date and Time is still causing me grief but, that might be my problem.  I set my local time then chose my time zone so, I lost 6 hours when I rebooted (trying to see if I could get the full ROX experience like last time).  I think I should have set the time to London Time (GMT 0) then set my local time zone and restarted.  In theory that should set the correct time for my time zone, right? 

Is anyone else seeing these issues?  Was my HDImage file corrupted?


The good news is my Symbol Spectrum24 Wireless CF card was plug and play.  Yay!   
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I had the same thing happen....try re-flashing and then reinstall HD Image...

this is assuming your downloads are good...otherwise re-download first...

HTH,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on March 28, 2007, 12:01:39 pm
Holovector,
1. When I flashed mine to 5.3.2 the background was gray. I don't think the wallpaper is setup by default. I have since upgraded to 5.3.3 (not 5.3.3 rev3) using the custom.tgz file. To set wallpaper, right click background > select Backdrop. Also, I created my desktop folders by dragging /data, /cf, and /card to my desktop. Make a copy of home, then edit it to get a / (root) folder on the desktop.
2. I don't have Gimp installed, so I cannot answer this.
3. I sort of "gave up" on the timezones thing and I just leave mine set to London.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on March 28, 2007, 12:17:45 pm
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I reflashed early this morning and did the HD image copy.  When pdaXii13 X session came up I was greeted with a plain gray ROX desktop with only a Home shortcut; not the withatwist background and multiple app shortcuts that I got last time.  The X menu is fully populated though.  Is this normal for 5.3.3?
I'm obviously using an Akita but I'm pretty sure you should have a wallpaper and icons, as I have.

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Also the GIMP is giving me an oversized User Installation screen when I fire it up.  When I Alt-drag to the Continue button and tap it, I get a "Please wait while your personal GIMP folder is being created...." and then it just sits there.
I haven't tried Gimp yet

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The Date and Time is still causing me grief but, that might be my problem.  I set my local time then chose my time zone so, I lost 6 hours when I rebooted (trying to see if I could get the full ROX experience like last time).  I think I should have set the time to London Time (GMT 0) then set my local time zone and restarted.  In theory that should set the correct time for my time zone, right? 
ya, mine is off by six hours (or is it 5) every time I reboot, too.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 12:59:15 pm
Thanks ArchiMark, John_J and Antikx.

John_J to answer your question - Yes, 5.3.2 Full looked like this (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=node/536) out of the box.

ArchiMark - Just to clarify.  The first time you flashed to 5.3.3 Full you got the plain ROX desktop and not the full featured one I linked to above so, you reflashed and copied the HSImage and got the full featured ROX desktop?

Antikx - I think you are right it was 5 hours.  At 2AM one loses the ability to count well.  

Now to figure how to ungimp the GIMP.  

EDIT: I've now ungimped the GIMP.  
Keep tapping the OK button even if you can't see it.  It will eventually say something like finalizing settings.  Leave the GIMP alone for a few minutes (I left it for a half hour) then sigkill the GIMP (unless you can get it to close; I couldn't).  Restart it and see an error and it can't find a Gimp 2.0 folder.  Close the GIMP and restart it.  Voila, the GIMP will start without an error.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 28, 2007, 01:11:09 pm
the problem you are seeing usually is a sign of an incomplete hdimage. the current hdimage-full is 199MB in size. probably should check the integrity of the hdimage before installing it. usually a zcat hdimage-full.tgz |tar tvf - should list the contents of the archive and there should be no errors towards the end of the listing...or you got an incomplete file
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on March 28, 2007, 01:43:09 pm
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the problem you are seeing usually is a sign of an incomplete hdimage. the current hdimage-full is 199MB in size. probably should check the integrity of the hdimage before installing it. usually a zcat hdimage-full.tgz |tar tvf - should list the contents of the archive and there should be no errors towards the end of the listing...or you got an incomplete file
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Could you maybe provide something like an MD5 checksum file?  That would be really cool.  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 02:28:40 pm
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the problem you are seeing usually is a sign of an incomplete hdimage. the current hdimage-full is 199MB in size. probably should check the integrity of the hdimage before installing it. usually a zcat hdimage-full.tgz |tar tvf - should list the contents of the archive and there should be no errors towards the end of the listing...or you got an incomplete file
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Thanks Meanie.  My hdimage-full.tgz on my 1GB SD card is 199.3MB according to XFE.  That is the same size that the Finder gave on my PowerBook when I downloaded it last night. Running your suggested commands did not give me any errors.      I'm wgetting the another copy of hdimage to make sure IE doesn't mangle it in any way.  Thanks again for your help and hard work.

Now back to beating the bejeezus out this BlackBerry on my desk that won't take the DST update.  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: ArchiMark on March 28, 2007, 03:53:23 pm
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Thanks ArchiMark, John_J and Antikx.

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ArchiMark - Just to clarify.  The first time you flashed to 5.3.3 Full you got the plain ROX desktop and not the full featured one I linked to above so, you reflashed and copied the HSImage and got the full featured ROX desktop?

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I just remember having the same issue as you. Seem to recall that I re-downloaded files and did a fresh install (ROM Re-flash & then Install HD Image..) and then all was good!

HTH,

Mark
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 05:24:21 pm
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I just remember having the same issue as you. Seem to recall that I re-downloaded files and did a fresh install (ROM Re-flash & then Install HD Image..) and then all was good!

HTH,

Mark
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Thanks Mark.  I am trying a HD wipe, and reinstall first.  I don't want to use up one of my flash cycles if I can get away with it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 10:11:16 pm
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I just remember having the same issue as you. Seem to recall that I re-downloaded files and did a fresh install (ROM Re-flash & then Install HD Image..) and then all was good!

HTH,

Mark
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Thanks Mark.  I am trying a HD wipe, and reinstall first.  I don't want to use up one of my flash cycles if I can get away with it.
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Okay, it wasn't my HDImage that was the problem since it did the same thing when with the new HDImage I wgetted.  It looks look it was the initrd.bin was the problem.  When I reflashed with a new one and redid the HDImage; I was back in business with all goodies.   Yay!  

Now to pimp my ride before the next ZUM meeting!  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on March 28, 2007, 10:21:21 pm
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the problem you are seeing usually is a sign of an incomplete hdimage. the current hdimage-full is 199MB in size. probably should check the integrity of the hdimage before installing it. usually a zcat hdimage-full.tgz |tar tvf - should list the contents of the archive and there should be no errors towards the end of the listing...or you got an incomplete file
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Could you maybe provide something like an MD5 checksum file?  That would be really cool.  
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MD5 checksum will be provided with the next update, ie build 5.3.4 which should be soon
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Post by: HoloVector on March 28, 2007, 10:26:47 pm
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the problem you are seeing usually is a sign of an incomplete hdimage. the current hdimage-full is 199MB in size. probably should check the integrity of the hdimage before installing it. usually a zcat hdimage-full.tgz |tar tvf - should list the contents of the archive and there should be no errors towards the end of the listing...or you got an incomplete file
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Could you maybe provide something like an MD5 checksum file?  That would be really cool.  
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MD5 checksum will be provided with the next update, ie build 5.3.4 which should be soon
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Thanks Meanie.  You are a true Zaurus God.  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on March 28, 2007, 11:42:34 pm
Wow... I just got 5.3.3 all settled and another update around the corner.  Very cool.  Think I'll do the upgrade thing rather than flash this time, though  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: portalgod on April 02, 2007, 04:48:24 pm
I've just moved to Pdaxii13 Akita on my SL-C1000.  I had Cacko before.   Somehow I expected an interface speed increase going from the Qtopia desktop on Cacko to Pdaxrom desktops.

I notice a signifiant lag in starting applications on Pdaxii13 and have seen a previous posting on this thread with the same verbiage.

Is this becuase I'm using the default matchbox desktop manager with the default window manager?   Maybe if I switch to a lighterweight icewm or so with Rox I may see a visible speed increase?

Thoughts?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 03, 2007, 06:39:24 pm
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I've just moved to Pdaxii13 Akita on my SL-C1000.  I had Cacko before.   Somehow I expected an interface speed increase going from the Qtopia desktop on Cacko to Pdaxrom desktops.

I notice a signifiant lag in starting applications on Pdaxii13 and have seen a previous posting on this thread with the same verbiage.

Is this becuase I'm using the default matchbox desktop manager with the default window manager?   Maybe if I switch to a lighterweight icewm or so with Rox I may see a visible speed increase?

Thoughts?
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how did you come to such a conclusion? X is a vey resource hungry sub system even on a full PC and is left uninstalled on many systems because of that. QT/E (qtopia) on the other end was designed to be lightweight and fast for small devices so it is quite amazing that X can run at such a speed on a Zaurus. why do people use X instead of qt/e then? because X is more compatible with the many freely available opensource applications that require GTK and people who use linux on their desktop are already familiar with X and he many window managers that are available to choose from.
fluxbox is much more lightweight, icewm is close, but rox is quite a bit more resource hungry...

pdaXrom application run faster since they use soft float instead of hardfloat, but the limiting factor for speed on the Z is ultimately memory and io.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on April 04, 2007, 12:31:29 am
cuiold we violate package name conventions oer something?

decided to try ipkg upgrade--- all the v. x.x.10 were viewed as x.x.1 and not "downgraded"
its kinda silly.

it won't kill me to do it manually, but it seems like something you might want fixed
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: portalgod on April 04, 2007, 03:39:22 am
Is X in pdaxrom the full blown X compilation, or does it take advantage of some kind of reduced functionality / reduced footprint binary compilation such as a "Tiny X" as described here :  http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9635690404.html (http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9635690404.html) ?

I guess maybe my idea of speed increase (which I got from reading several posts in these forums) is moot given the resources X eats up.  Probably running apps from the command line may be faster.  Perhaps I'll have to do some tests and post my app initialization times.

Thanks anyhow
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 04, 2007, 06:18:46 am
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Is X in pdaxrom the full blown X compilation, or does it take advantage of some kind of reduced functionality / reduced footprint binary compilation such as a "Tiny X" as described here :  http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9635690404.html (http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9635690404.html) ?

I guess maybe my idea of speed increase (which I got from reading several posts in these forums) is moot given the resources X eats up.  Probably running apps from the command line may be faster.  Perhaps I'll have to do some tests and post my app initialization times.

Thanks anyhow
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Try running Firefox under Cacko and then under pdaXrom. You will notice the speed difference. Firefox runs significantly faster on pdaXrom...
Running shrink wrapped apps under Cacko is obviously faster than running fully featured full blown apps under pdaXrom... you have to compare apples against apples...
as for the tinyx thing, that's just using a framebuffer which is what pdaXrom is doing too.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: portalgod on April 05, 2007, 09:57:16 am
Hrmm, so here's an odd one.   Fresh install of pdaxii13 akita base on my sl-c1000.   Boot into X, everything fine and dandy.  

Installed atd to SD.

Using the card applet monitor to eject the card, it reports "You can now eject the card" or whatever the message is.

However if I dropped to console and umount'ed it, it complains that it is busy.

Well of course it is, atd is still being run from the SD

How does the applet allow me to eject?

Maybe a bug?   Anyone else notice or try this?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: canguy247 on April 05, 2007, 07:22:56 pm
Hey portalgod,
The best way to significantly speed up PDAXrom, is if you do not need Chinese input support.  Simply uninstall SCIM.  Very big speed-up as mentioned by Meanie.

Canguy
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on April 05, 2007, 07:51:08 pm
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Using the card applet monitor to eject the card, it reports "You can now eject the card" or whatever the message is.

However if I dropped to console and umount'ed it, it complains that it is busy.
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Yeah, I've got a bunch of stuff installed to SD and I've noticed the same thing.  I ended up rebooting and pulling the SD card before the OS started up and remounted it.  I'd guess that the "ok to eject" message is based on a delay, rather than actually checking if the umount was successful.

I didn't know exactly what was still running from the card, but I installed the additional packages for pdaXii13 5.3.3 to SD, so it could be any of those.  

BTW, does anyone know why the SD needs to be unmounted prior to running the upgrade scripts for pdaXii13?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Antikx on April 06, 2007, 11:06:19 am
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Hey portalgod,
The best way to significantly speed up PDAXrom, is if you do not need Chinese input support.  Simply uninstall SCIM.  Very big speed-up as mentioned by Meanie.

Canguy
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on April 07, 2007, 07:38:53 am
where i can download 5.3.5 ? i just find 5.3.4 Beta /hmm



sorry, i got it 5.3.5 is the init.rd and the hdimage is 5.3.4Beta xD
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 01:54:48 am
Two questions:

1. Were the freezing problems that seem to have crept in since the newer release versions (5.3.3 etc.) fixed or addressed yet?

2. Can anyone speak to whether it is worth it to use the 5.3.4 beta release in the hopes it's been addressed there or not?

and...most importantly to me:

3. Does the Sharp Remote Control Headset that comes with the SL-C3100 work with pdaXii13 rom? (Can't remember the product number but I do so love the dang thing.)

Thanks!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on April 09, 2007, 02:17:49 am
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Two questions:

1. Were the freezing problems that seem to have crept in since the newer release versions (5.3.3 etc.) fixed or addressed yet?

2. Can anyone speak to whether it is worth it to use the 5.3.4 beta release in the hopes it's been addressed there or not?

and...most importantly to me:

3. Does the Sharp Remote Control Headset that comes with the SL-C3100 work with pdaXii13 rom? (Can't remember the product number but I do so love the dang thing.)

Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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1 Haven't frozen on 5.3.3 or 5.3.4

2 Might as well use the latest--- if nothing else it's your best hope for an easy fix.

3 No idea about the remote.

4. cups is having problems with the glibc veriosn in 5.3.4  I assume it is an easy fix (like compiling cups over again, but haven't found any other discussion)

5 Welcome back
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 10:30:15 am
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Two questions:

1. Were the freezing problems that seem to have crept in since the newer release versions (5.3.3 etc.) fixed or addressed yet?

2. Can anyone speak to whether it is worth it to use the 5.3.4 beta release in the hopes it's been addressed there or not?

and...most importantly to me:

3. Does the Sharp Remote Control Headset that comes with the SL-C3100 work with pdaXii13 rom? (Can't remember the product number but I do so love the dang thing.)

Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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1 Haven't frozen on 5.3.3 or 5.3.4

2 Might as well use the latest--- if nothing else it's your best hope for an easy fix.

3 No idea about the remote.

4. cups is having problems with the glibc veriosn in 5.3.4  I assume it is an easy fix (like compiling cups over again, but haven't found any other discussion)

5 Welcome back
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Thanks bro,

I took the plunge after downloading all the related files etc. and got the base NAND version installed without too many mishaps and dumb attacks. I hit a brick wall when I went to install the microdrive image however. I'm using the hdimage-full 5.3.5beta, as it is the ONLY other version I could find other than the 5.3.1stable that is available in the akita Tyrannozaurus site (which is great Ant even though I've told you that about the site before.) The beta file of course being found in the spitz "cutting edge" beta downloads area.

So since the directions didn't specify, after I got my clean installation working with just the NAND version I popped the hdimage onto my external microdrive and jumped back into the flasher and repartitioned my interior CF Flash Drive manually (it's an 8gb flash drive I replaced the md with so I couldn't use the default feature, which I hated because I think it would have made life much simpler.)

I then rebooted to make sure the system would see the new partitions correctly as it told me to and reentered the flash utility and tried to uncompress the hdimage to my drive. No luck. When I click on option 5 "Install hdimage" it just pops back to the installer screen after about a second. Hmmm. I realized it wasn't formatted yet, so I used the console shell option and formatted hda1 to ext3 with no prob whatsoever and jumped back in and tried again...no luck. Hmmm. Maybe a reboot. No luck.

So I begin to think...hey does the hdimage need to be manually copied to the first partition because the flashloader looks for it there? So I copy it there and try the flashloader again. No luck.

I don't know.  I'd like to try a diff version that is 5.3.3 or later but I can't find but the one version that I have that fits that bill.

It's always the same symptom, the popping back to the pdaXii13 installer screen after a mere second as if it can't even find a valid hdimage to use, or a valid drive to use it on, but it doesn't give me any feedback or errors so I have nothing to go on.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on April 09, 2007, 10:53:03 am
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....

Thanks bro,

I took the plunge after downloading all the related files etc. and got the base NAND version installed without too many mishaps and dumb attacks. I hit a brick wall when I went to install the microdrive image however. I'm using the hdimage-full 5.3.5beta, as it is the ONLY other version I could find other than the 5.3.1stable that is available in the akita Tyrannozaurus site (which is great Ant even though I've told you that about the site before.) The beta file of course being found in the spitz "cutting edge" beta downloads area.

So since the directions didn't specify, after I got my clean installation working with just the NAND version I popped the hdimage onto my external microdrive and jumped back into the flasher and repartitioned my interior CF Flash Drive manually (it's an 8gb flash drive I replaced the md with so I couldn't use the default feature, which I hated because I think it would have made life much simpler.)

I then rebooted to make sure the system would see the new partitions correctly as it told me to and reentered the flash utility and tried to uncompress the hdimage to my drive. No luck. When I click on option 5 "Install hdimage" it just pops back to the installer screen after about a second. Hmmm. I realized it wasn't formatted yet, so I used the console shell option and formatted hda1 to ext3 with no prob whatsoever and jumped back in and tried again...no luck. Hmmm. Maybe a reboot. No luck.

So I begin to think...hey does the hdimage need to be manually copied to the first partition because the flashloader looks for it there? So I copy it there and try the flashloader again. No luck.

I don't know.  I'd like to try a diff version that is 5.3.3 or later but I can't find but the one version that I have that fits that bill.

It's always the same symptom, the popping back to the pdaXii13 installer screen after a mere second as if it can't even find a valid hdimage to use, or a valid drive to use it on, but it doesn't give me any feedback or errors so I have nothing to go on.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance!

-NeuroShock
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Meanie has setup the hdimage installer to work with the original drives that shipped with the 3x00 units.  The initial detection of a 3000, 3100, 3200 determines what fdisk script it runs.  For the 3000 and 3100 is expecting a 4GB drive.  For the 3200 it is expecting a 6GB drive.  

Since your 3100 has an 8GB drive the fdisk script is probably bombing out on you.  If you were to manually partition your drive and not use that step in the installer, you might be able to get the installer to do the HDImage copy for you.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 11:55:41 am
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Quote
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Thanks bro,

I took the plunge after downloading all the related files etc. and got the base NAND version installed without too many mishaps and dumb attacks. I hit a brick wall when I went to install the microdrive image however. I'm using the hdimage-full 5.3.5beta, as it is the ONLY other version I could find other than the 5.3.1stable that is available in the akita Tyrannozaurus site (which is great Ant even though I've told you that about the site before.) The beta file of course being found in the spitz "cutting edge" beta downloads area.

So since the directions didn't specify, after I got my clean installation working with just the NAND version I popped the hdimage onto my external microdrive and jumped back into the flasher and repartitioned my interior CF Flash Drive manually (it's an 8gb flash drive I replaced the md with so I couldn't use the default feature, which I hated because I think it would have made life much simpler.)

I then rebooted to make sure the system would see the new partitions correctly as it told me to and reentered the flash utility and tried to uncompress the hdimage to my drive. No luck. When I click on option 5 "Install hdimage" it just pops back to the installer screen after about a second. Hmmm. I realized it wasn't formatted yet, so I used the console shell option and formatted hda1 to ext3 with no prob whatsoever and jumped back in and tried again...no luck. Hmmm. Maybe a reboot. No luck.

So I begin to think...hey does the hdimage need to be manually copied to the first partition because the flashloader looks for it there? So I copy it there and try the flashloader again. No luck.

I don't know.  I'd like to try a diff version that is 5.3.3 or later but I can't find but the one version that I have that fits that bill.

It's always the same symptom, the popping back to the pdaXii13 installer screen after a mere second as if it can't even find a valid hdimage to use, or a valid drive to use it on, but it doesn't give me any feedback or errors so I have nothing to go on.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance!

-NeuroShock
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Meanie has setup the hdimage installer to work with the original drives that shipped with the 3x00 units.  The initial detection of a 3000, 3100, 3200 determines what fdisk script it runs.  For the 3000 and 3100 is expecting a 4GB drive.  For the 3200 it is expecting a 6GB drive.  

Since your 3100 has an 8GB drive the fdisk script is probably bombing out on you.  If you were to manually partition your drive and not use that step in the installer, you might be able to get the installer to do the HDImage copy for you.
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Yup, I believe you are exactly correct, and that was part of what I was trying to get across in the above post. I saw that problem coming and avoided the automatic partitioning and did mine manually.  The partitions are formatting and mounting just fine just as descibed that they would during the first boot. It's just that the hdimage decompression only option (there actually is one in the setup options in the installer) will not work. It's probably not noticed by most folks if the fdisk script automatically launches it for them.  So I'm beginning to think the script for this option is either A. not working properly, or B. just doesn't know what to think of my big drive.

I DO know now that it isn't a corrupt file issue as I've checked my md5sums and also tried the 5.3.1 file with the same result.  The question that comes to mind at the moment is Would it be possible to manually decompress the files into the first partition myself and then copy /home and the other directory like your supposed to and have it work?  If so what would the exact syntax of the operation be and could I do it from within a shell terminal within X or do I need to dump out of all GUI's altogether etc. or do anything crazy like remount the root filesystem as rw while I do it etc. etc. etc.?  I've already tried to do this from the shell that the manual partitioning option in the Install Options drops you to but I was unable to mount the first partition of the drive and so therefore could copy nothing to it.

Come to think of it. Maybe that's what's wrong with the Install, maybe it can't expand the hdimage because it can't mount the first partition yet for some reason. But for whatever the reason the first partition DOES mount automatically by the time the system boots into the GUI so I just don't know.

*sigh* Typical. I just introduced more questions than answers.

Thanks for helping keep the ideas flowing please! I'd love for this to be a stupid NeuroShock mistake and turn out to be something stupidly simple and we can all sit back and laugh at me!

=) Thanks All

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 12:58:48 pm
Oooooooh! I'm getting really close I think!

I have manually managed to copy/expand the thing to the drive and it pretty much does so only complaining of date errors that others saw here. It did complain of errors but I won't hold that against it since they didn't seem fatal at this point.

I'm apparently not managing to get all of /home copied though when I go to copy it to the NAND area and it might be in the syntax of my usage of the cp command. Could someone bless me with a plain vanilla example of the appropriate usage here that would maintain ownership rights etc?

I'm trying to copy from /mnt/ide/hdd1/home to /home for example.

Thanks.

-NeuroShock.

Oh and btw, the only bad sign was that after I manually expanded the files to the drive and rebooted the system did NOT ask me to move the files...I'm jsut doing it on the hopes that it will work and force the system to play ball with me.

Thanks again.

-Neuro
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on April 09, 2007, 01:17:09 pm
Sorry about that.  I misread your post.  I believe you are right track with the manual extract and copy.  I not to familiar the cp command syntax so, I won't be much help there.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Drake01 on April 09, 2007, 06:58:19 pm
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I'm apparently not managing to get all of /home copied though when I go to copy it to the NAND area and it might be in the syntax of my usage of the cp command. Could someone bless me with a plain vanilla example of the appropriate usage here that would maintain ownership rights etc?

I'm trying to copy from /mnt/ide/hdd1/home to /home for example.
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I don't have a harddrive to worry about, but I'm guessing that you want to use the -a switch on cp, like:
cp -a /mnt/ide/hdd1/home /home

-a will preserve mode, ownership & timestamps, will preserve links without dereferencing them, and will recurse the directory structure.  I believe that it will also pick up all hidden files.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 07:17:44 pm
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I'm apparently not managing to get all of /home copied though when I go to copy it to the NAND area and it might be in the syntax of my usage of the cp command. Could someone bless me with a plain vanilla example of the appropriate usage here that would maintain ownership rights etc?

I'm trying to copy from /mnt/ide/hdd1/home to /home for example.
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I don't have a harddrive to worry about, but I'm guessing that you want to use the -a switch on cp, like:
cp -a /mnt/ide/hdd1/home /home

-a will preserve mode, ownership & timestamps, will preserve links without dereferencing them, and will recurse the directory structure.  I believe that it will also pick up all hidden files.
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Yes, the -a switch is the key and have this part licked now, but apparently I'm getting too many errors when I'm unpacking the file in the previous step. The tar command I'm using to unpack the hdimage is

su
cd /mnt/ide
tar -xvvf /mnt/cf/hdimage-full.tar (or the filename not sure of exact spelling)

Is my tar command correct because I am getting a WAZOO of errors relating to not being able to change ownership etc? I have MANY less time related errors as I took a few moments to set the clock and date correctly before attempting to upgrade the hdimage.

I think if I can get my tar command correct I'll be all right.  I HAVE managed to change the look feel of the system by uncompressing etc. but it produces a very very broken system with no new programs available to me on the desktop etc.

Thanks again everyone, I'm getting closer and closer....

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on April 09, 2007, 08:00:21 pm
I skimmed.  I admit it.
Still it seemt to me thet you maybe should have a minimum of 3 partitions about a gig and a half for /dev/hda1 about 256M for /dev/hda2 (swap) and what ever you want for hda3+

put the tarball onto partition 3

mount /dev/hda1 as something temporary, not /home or anything

cd to wherever you mounted hda1, and untar the tarball

reboot.  Hopefully your Z catches the image,   It might be useful to have a look at meranies script and manually do what it requires.

I think cp  isn't going to work....  but I could easily be mistaken
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 09, 2007, 09:50:51 pm
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I skimmed.  I admit it.
Still it seemt to me thet you maybe should have a minimum of 3 partitions about a gig and a half for /dev/hda1 about 256M for /dev/hda2 (swap) and what ever you want for hda3+

put the tarball onto partition 3

mount /dev/hda1 as something temporary, not /home or anything

cd to wherever you mounted hda1, and untar the tarball

reboot.  Hopefully your Z catches the image,   It might be useful to have a look at meranies script and manually do what it requires.

I think cp  isn't going to work....  but I could easily be mistaken
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No can do boss. The first partition (/dev/hda1) approx 6.5g on mine, regardless of what I mount it to is ALWAYS upon a reboot found by the ROM and automatically mounted to /mnt/ide whether I like it or not.  I can untar the tarball to this partition till I turn blue in the face and pdaXii13 never see's it on reboot. I can unmount and remount it in another position and on reboot it's right back to /mnt/ide just like before.

You're completely correct about the cp command.  It's just not getting me there. It's obviously only copying files that it does NOT already find existing in already existing destination folders. So basically nothing changes hardly for me after copying.  I've researched the command onthe web and I can't see a command switch (using cp -a right now) that would correct this.  

I'm totally lost.  The ONLY idea that currently occurs to me is to dissasemble my 3100, reinstall the original 4gb Microdrive, install pdaxii13 to my satisfaction and then remove the drive and try to use a cf to standard IDE 40pin cable adapter in conjunction with Partition Magic 8.0 to copy and resize the partitions to my 8gb Flash Card and then Reinstall the Flash Card.

Besides being overly complex, my hands shake fairly badly nowadays because of the neurological damage to be trying to mess with those tiny screws, I'm afraid I might brick it.

I'm losing faith here rapidly...and it's no easy task to return to Sharp/Cacko from this point and even if I do I will find myself right back to the same problem of not being able to run my X progs that I started with.

Please...anyone...even seriously wild silly suggestions would be welcomed at this point. I'm just desperate for a solution of SOME kind.

     
So First Question:
What procedure did YOU all use to copy /home and /etc from the microdrive to the NAND position? The directions seem to imply that everyone has to do it manually after they are told to upon reboot!?

and,

Final Question:
On normal systems (if you have akita working with pdaXii13 this means YOU!!)

What is the default mount point that pdaXii13 rom's automounter put your /dev/hda1 (the interior microdrive) on?  Is it /mnt/ide like mine? or perchance is it /hdd1?
Just a hunch I've got here....

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on April 09, 2007, 11:09:09 pm
Sadly I just let it do the auto thing.

Have you considered using a big sd card and doing the akita full-on-sd approach?  It'll use a little less juice, I bet.

I think it is linked around a bit. my mount command gives me:
 /dev/hda1 on /media/fakeroot
and
/dev/hda1 on /usr

/mount /ide exists, but is empty.

Still, I think you might try playing with the flash scripts--- I had to manually partition mine (I had been playing with the drive geometry, I think) but after the 3 partitions were made and formatted (to a slightly different size than meanie's scripts expect) I was able to use the flash tool for installing a hard drive image. It just grabbed my 1.5 gig 1st partition, formatted and untarred---  the auto scripts had not worked for me, so I think you might have a similar result
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 10, 2007, 12:46:50 pm
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Sadly I just let it do the auto thing.

Have you considered using a big sd card and doing the akita full-on-sd approach?  It'll use a little less juice, I bet.

I think it is linked around a bit. my mount command gives me:
 /dev/hda1 on /media/fakeroot
and
/dev/hda1 on /usr

/mount /ide exists, but is empty.

Still, I think you might try playing with the flash scripts--- I had to manually partition mine (I had been playing with the drive geometry, I think) but after the 3 partitions were made and formatted (to a slightly different size than meanie's scripts expect) I was able to use the flash tool for installing a hard drive image. It just grabbed my 1.5 gig 1st partition, formatted and untarred---  the auto scripts had not worked for me, so I think you might have a similar result
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Ok,

You're the only game in town right now so let's follow your lead as much as I can.

First, I can't do the install to SD approach simply because I'm SD-less right now so that's a dead ender for me.

Now, I keep seeing you mention the scripts and your editing of them. What scripts are you speaking of? Oh wait. I think your referring to the pdaXii13 Installation ROM setup options.  Right. Hmmm.....oh goodness. I wonder...? I wonder if the hdimage install script option actually tries to format the drive first and when it does it finds that my 6.5gb partition is beyond it's capacity to do so for some reason and simply bounces me back to the install screen?

Maybe you've hit the nail on the head. I'll go resize my partitions to roughly the same size as they would be in megabytes to the default install and then see if the scripts can pick things up from there in  either the installation option for hdimage install or either through untarring it manually.  It's certainly worth a try.

If not, I think I'm eventually going to end up reinstalling the original Microdrive long enuf to get a good install and then copy the partitions over to my 8gb Flash drive and reverse the process.....by talking my 18 yr old daughter through the procedure.  She'll have to be my hands since mine shake too badly.  It'll be a good experience for here....but a scary one for me!

Thanks Adf, if you think of anything else feel free to nudge me again!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 10, 2007, 02:24:16 pm
I appear to have the same issue.

My C3100 (with MD replaced with 4G CF) was originally installed with 5.3.3 and old hd full image and worked just fine. Today I tried to install 5.3.5 and have exactly the same issue as NeuroShock :- tried Installing hdimage but just get back to main menu.

I flashed back to 5.3.3 and my own custom hd (500Mb! almost 2 hours to recover) and with no problem.

So the issue doesn't seem to relate to CF size.

Update:

To NeuroShock: check your hd-image if it ends with .tar ? I change it back to .tgz and it works !!!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 10, 2007, 02:26:25 pm
Adf,

Nope.

No good.

I'm about to drop my 4gb Microdrive back into the thing and proceed from there. *sigh* I'm having a real run of bad luck lately.

-Neuroshock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 10, 2007, 02:32:13 pm
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I appear to have the same issue.

My C3100 (with MD replaced with 4G CF) was originally installed with 5.3.3 and old hd full image and worked just fine. Today I tried to install 5.3.5 and have exactly the same issue as NeuroShock :- tried Installing hdimage but just get back to main menu.

I flashed back to 5.3.3 and my own custom hd (500Mb! almost 2 hours to recover) and with no problem.

So the issue doesn't seem to relate to CF size.
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Ooooooooh!   Thank you SOOOOO much for posting you just saved me a ton of trouble my friend! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Um...but now I have a problem....Does anyone have a copy of the 5.3.3 hdimage-full.tar that they used? Or heck I'll try the 5.3.4 if someone can link me to that one...
Thanks!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 10, 2007, 02:35:56 pm
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I appear to have the same issue.

My C3100 (with MD replaced with 4G CF) was originally installed with 5.3.3 and old hd full image and worked just fine. Today I tried to install 5.3.5 and have exactly the same issue as NeuroShock :- tried Installing hdimage but just get back to main menu.

I flashed back to 5.3.3 and my own custom hd (500Mb! almost 2 hours to recover) and with no problem.

So the issue doesn't seem to relate to CF size.
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Ooooooooh!   Thank you SOOOOO much for posting you just saved me a ton of trouble my friend! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Um...but now I have a problem....Does anyone have a copy of the 5.3.3 hdimage-full.tar that they used? Or heck I'll try the 5.3.4 if someone can link me to that one...
Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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Hey, maybe you haven't read my update! Good news! Try rename your image from .tar to .tgz. It works for me! Good luck!

EDIT: Anyway, replacing the MD doesn't seem to be hardwork. I always open the Z up and replace with this and that (like BT card)  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on April 10, 2007, 07:58:12 pm
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Um...but now I have a problem....Does anyone have a copy of the 5.3.3 hdimage-full.tar that they used? Or heck I'll try the 5.3.4 if someone can link me to that one...
Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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If your downloaded hdimage-full has the *.tar extension, it could be that your browser screwed it up, or tried to extract it as it was downloaded.
All my pdaxii13 spitz hdimages are this format:
hdimage-full.tgz

Try using a download helper, such as flashget (windows) or whatever is used on a linux box for linux.

Link to meanie's files for pdaxii13-spitz (build5.3.5 beta)
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 10, 2007, 09:43:42 pm
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Um...but now I have a problem....Does anyone have a copy of the 5.3.3 hdimage-full.tar that they used? Or heck I'll try the 5.3.4 if someone can link me to that one...
Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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If your downloaded hdimage-full has the *.tar extension, it could be that your browser screwed it up, or tried to extract it as it was downloaded.
All my pdaxii13 spitz hdimages are this format:
hdimage-full.tgz

Try using a download helper, such as flashget (windows) or whatever is used on a linux box for linux.

Link to meanie's files for pdaxii13-spitz (build5.3.5 beta)
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]
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DANG!  

Sure enuf all my hdimages are downloaded as .tar files...downloaded them via WindowsXP....*sigh* Might have been my whole problem all along. I'll let you all know tomorrow when I get to try again. Thanks JonJ for the post and quick eye for essential detail!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 11, 2007, 12:39:45 am
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Um...but now I have a problem....Does anyone have a copy of the 5.3.3 hdimage-full.tar that they used? Or heck I'll try the 5.3.4 if someone can link me to that one...
Thanks!

-NeuroShock
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If your downloaded hdimage-full has the *.tar extension, it could be that your browser screwed it up, or tried to extract it as it was downloaded.
All my pdaxii13 spitz hdimages are this format:
hdimage-full.tgz

Try using a download helper, such as flashget (windows) or whatever is used on a linux box for linux.

Link to meanie's files for pdaxii13-spitz (build5.3.5 beta)
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]
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Sure it is a browser problem, and probably IE problem. I checked my old hdimages downloaded with Firefox in XP and they are all with tgz extension. This time (5.3.5) I downloaded with IE7 and it turned to tar.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 11, 2007, 06:44:55 am
YES I DID miss your update Fatty! We apparently were making simultaneous discoveries!  There is NOTHING better than discovering you've invented the wheel for the second time... *sigh* I'm always a day late and a dollar short. But again Thanks again to both you AND Jon for your recent posts as you jumped in just about the time I was about to take the hard way out!


Yes Indeed,

First for clarities sake:

The problem was NOT with the scripts or even related to the fact that the microdrives had been replaced with Compact Flash cards, it was JUST that our browsers were downloading the file and retagging the suffix as .tar instead of .tgz.  Both of us affected were using IE7 for reference.

Now,

A final small question,

The installation instructions say that the user will be prompted to copy the /home and /etc directories from the microdrive to the NAND area upon reboot.  While the script DID work wonderfully this time and reformatted the partition and expanded the image and I'm now in with all the zillion programs showing etc. I never recieved this message, (or if I did I never it scrolled by me without me catching it).  Likewise, if I'm not supposed to use the CP command to copy those directories I have no idea how to go about it. So....

Do /home and /etc still need copied?

and

if so, how do I accomplish this correctly?

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 11, 2007, 09:34:02 pm
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YES I DID miss your update Fatty! We apparently were making simultaneous discoveries!  There is NOTHING better than discovering you've invented the wheel for the second time... *sigh* I'm always a day late and a dollar short. But again Thanks again to both you AND Jon for your recent posts as you jumped in just about the time I was about to take the hard way out!


Yes Indeed,

First for clarities sake:

The problem was NOT with the scripts or even related to the fact that the microdrives had been replaced with Compact Flash cards, it was JUST that our browsers were downloading the file and retagging the suffix as .tar instead of .tgz.  Both of us affected were using IE7 for reference.

Now,

A final small question,

The installation instructions say that the user will be prompted to copy the /home and /etc directories from the microdrive to the NAND area upon reboot.  While the script DID work wonderfully this time and reformatted the partition and expanded the image and I'm now in with all the zillion programs showing etc. I never recieved this message, (or if I did I never it scrolled by me without me catching it).  Likewise, if I'm not supposed to use the CP command to copy those directories I have no idea how to go about it. So....

Do /home and /etc still need copied?

and

if so, how do I accomplish this correctly?

-NeuroShock
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run

mkfs.init
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 11, 2007, 10:01:58 pm
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run

mkfs.init
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OMGOooooodness Meanie I love you forever!  Wow that was simple but I am IN BUSINESS.

Thanks everyone!

Going to play with things now and screw things up terribly so I have to reinstall 12 more times now that I know how to do it properly!

Thanks again,

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Kondou on April 12, 2007, 03:55:14 am
[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Help~ SCIM on pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 can't work[/b][/span]


My C1000 just install pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5 on NAND

but i install scim_1.4.0-1_armv5tel.ipk & scim-tables_0.5.3-1_armv5tel.ipk (download on http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/) (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/))
SCIM is loaded successfully, but control+space does not work at all with GTK apps. (Leafpad, AbiWord and oth more)

I have check the commad:

root:-)env | grep scim
QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

& the command
root:-)grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "scim" "/usr/share/locale" "*"

& check the file size on /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 is 2272576

i nedd input chinese tell me how do can input chinese in pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5??

PS. just on Package manager & PPP Modem can show SCIM Panel & input chinese (i just useing ZhuYin on zh_TW) othe App can't show SCIM Panel & input chinese)

Sorry I am 台灣人英文 English is Bad
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: 2or0 on April 12, 2007, 05:37:09 am
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[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Help~ SCIM on pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 can't work[/b][/span]


My C1000 just install pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5 on NAND

but i install scim_1.4.0-1_armv5tel.ipk & scim-tables_0.5.3-1_armv5tel.ipk (download on http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/) (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/))
SCIM is loaded successfully, but control+space does not work at all with GTK apps. (Leafpad, AbiWord and oth more)

I have check the commad:

root:-)env | grep scim
QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

& the command
root:-)grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "scim" "/usr/share/locale" "*"

& check the file size on /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 is 2272576

i nedd input chinese tell me how do can input chinese in pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5??

PS. just on Package manager & PPP Modem can show SCIM Panel & input chinese (i just useing ZhuYin on zh_TW) othe App can't show SCIM Panel & input chinese)

Sorry I am 台灣人英文 English is Bad
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When I installed pdaXii13 Akita 5.3.5 on C3200, I have same problem. Although I can type cjk character in QT applications, I cannot write it on gtk applications. I checked all as Kondou did and found everything is ok. When I right-mouse-clicked on text area in leafpad, I cannot see any of "Input Methods" except Default. What is problem? gtk? Thanks,

- yonggun
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 12, 2007, 07:08:19 am
Quote
Quote
[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Help~ SCIM on pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 can't work[/b][/span]


My C1000 just install pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5 on NAND

but i install scim_1.4.0-1_armv5tel.ipk & scim-tables_0.5.3-1_armv5tel.ipk (download on http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/) (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/feed/))
SCIM is loaded successfully, but control+space does not work at all with GTK apps. (Leafpad, AbiWord and oth more)

I have check the commad:

root:-)env | grep scim
QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

& the command
root:-)grep scim /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "scim" "/usr/share/locale" "*"

& check the file size on /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.600.2 is 2272576

i nedd input chinese tell me how do can input chinese in pdaXii13 Akita build 5.3.5??

PS. just on Package manager & PPP Modem can show SCIM Panel & input chinese (i just useing ZhuYin on zh_TW) othe App can't show SCIM Panel & input chinese)

Sorry I am 台灣人英文 English is Bad
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When I installed pdaXii13 Akita 5.3.5 on C3200, I have same problem. Although I can type cjk character in QT applications, I cannot write it on gtk applications. I checked all as Kondou did and found everything is ok. When I right-mouse-clicked on text area in leafpad, I cannot see any of "Input Methods" except Default. What is problem? gtk? Thanks,

- yonggun
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I have 5.3.5 full installed on C3100 and SCIM works without problem in GTK apps.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: 2or0 on April 12, 2007, 07:59:02 am
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[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Help~ SCIM on pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 can't work[/b][/span]
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I solved(?) the problem. When I removed gtk2 and reinstall orginal gtk2 in the beta 3 feed, I could type cjk characters. I guess that gtk2 in pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 is something wrong.

 - yonggun
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Cresho on April 12, 2007, 12:09:04 pm
need help!

my wifi "pretec" does not work on the zaurus.  But it does identify it as a pretec wifi cf card in the terminal.  when i plug it into the the cf slot, it identifies it in the cards applet as agere system wifi or soemthing.  anyway to help the wifi software work with the cf wifi?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 12, 2007, 01:41:54 pm
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need help!

my wifi "pretec" does not work on the zaurus.  But it does identify it as a pretec wifi cf card in the terminal.  when i plug it into the the cf slot, it identifies it in the cards applet as agere system wifi or soemthing.  anyway to help the wifi software work with the cf wifi?
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Which rom are you using? I've noticed you're using Cacko and Sharp from your sig and this thread is for pdaxii13 on nand!

For pdaxii13 5.3.3, I have no issue using my Pretec wifi cf. Actually the card has served me well since pdaxrom RC10.4 all the way to r121! Anyway, I haven't tested pdaxii13 5.3.5 yet...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Cresho on April 12, 2007, 03:37:27 pm
im running the latest stable pdaxii13 akita on the c-3200.  the pretec is found fine but i have issues using it.  Maybee i need to play with it.  Still, how did you get yours working?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Kondou on April 13, 2007, 07:00:23 am
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Quote
[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Help~ SCIM on pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 can't work[/b][/span]
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I solved(?) the problem. When I removed gtk2 and reinstall orginal gtk2 in the beta 3 feed, I could type cjk characters. I guess that gtk2 in pdaxii13 build 5.3.5 is something wrong.

 - yonggun
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I finding my problem
the gtk2_2.6.2-3_armv5tel.ipk [span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']( libgtk-X11-2.0.so.0.600.2 is Bad)[/span]

我嘗試尋找有問題的檔案 發現 gtk2_2.6.2-3_armv5tel.ipk 的 libgtk-X11-2.0.so.0.600.2 是有問題的 故將 Pdaxrom官方的 libgtk-X11-2.0.so.0.600.2 copy to /usu/lib 就可解決這問題 但 Leafpda開啟檔案視窗太大  (open file windows too large)
或許有誰英文比較好可以寫信給 tyrannozaurus.com 請他重新編譯 libgtk-X11-2.0.so.0.600.2 謝謝大家~~~~~~~~
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: conundrum on April 13, 2007, 04:23:08 pm
I've installed pdaXii13 on my C3200 using the files listed here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

And the hdimage here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...dimage-full.tgz (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/hdimage-full.tgz)

The version command says it's 5.3.1, is there a more up to date hdimage for the 3200, or do I need to update them manually, if at all?  I wasn't sure if I should use the hdimage found here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/)

because it says "For C3000."

I thought I was getting all the latest stuff, I'd like to be absolutely sure before I continue customizing it to my own needs.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 13, 2007, 08:22:47 pm
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I've installed pdaXii13 on my C3200 using the files listed here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/)

And the hdimage here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...dimage-full.tgz (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/files/hdimage-full.tgz)

The version command says it's 5.3.1, is there a more up to date hdimage for the 3200, or do I need to update them manually, if at all?  I wasn't sure if I should use the hdimage found here:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/ (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/)

because it says "For C3000."

I thought I was getting all the latest stuff, I'd like to be absolutely sure before I continue customizing it to my own needs.
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Use 5.3.1 if you want a really tested and stable version, or use the 5.3.5 in the tmp section for the latest and greatest. Don't worry about it saying C3000...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: conundrum on April 13, 2007, 08:29:00 pm
Thanks Meanie.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: neuroshock on April 14, 2007, 07:31:59 am
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need help!

my wifi "pretec" does not work on the zaurus.  But it does identify it as a pretec wifi cf card in the terminal.  when i plug it into the the cf slot, it identifies it in the cards applet as agere system wifi or soemthing.  anyway to help the wifi software work with the cf wifi?
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Hey Cresho,

After reading your post I remembered that I have 2 of those pretec cards I bought off the HSN ages ago that I dug out of an old tote box and dropped into my c3200 (running the latest initrd with hdimige-full v5.5.5beta) and have the EXACT same issues. I THINK I might can shed some light on the problem.

I was never able to get these cards to work natively on cacko/sharp unless I manually edited a listing for them if I remember correctly. You could get around that by flashing them up to a more recent firmware and then they could used with the vanilla HOSTAPI drivers. (I believe this might be what pdaxii13 is trying to do.) But I never updated my firmware because I never had a linuxbox available at the time I wanted to do it and so never got it done.

So my question is ... can we manually make a seperate listing for them like we did under sharp/cacko?  Or if we update the firmware in them can they be used with pdaXii13?

It'd be cool either way because they're smaller and use less juice than my Dlink DCF-660W! I'd forgotten I even had them or I'd be trying to use them already.

But again I get the exact same symptoms you do...they get Identified as Agere Systems Heremes-I ..... and never initialize.


Maybe that info will get us a step closer. Hope it helps a bit!

-NeuroShock
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 25, 2007, 12:12:23 am
Pretec wifi issue
==========

Yes, I have the same problem with 5.3.5 & 5.4.

My Pretec wifi is wrongly identified as 'Agere Systems Hermes-I' and dmesg shows 'Wireless, HCF failure: "Error code 64"'.

With the same card and same C3100, in 5.3.3 it can be correctly identified as 'Pretect' and worked perfectly.

I noticed from the 5.3.4 release note hermes wifi support was added. So will it be the source of the issue?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Cresho on April 25, 2007, 01:00:16 am
I have not been around this issue since i dove back to my c-3200 cacko full.  I need a pda with my drugbooks, encyclopedia, and Dictionary in place.  I am currently looking into purchasing a c-1000 for cacko purpouses and another c-3200 for pdaxii13 rom purpouses besides my c-3200 or maybee a c-3100.  Anyhow, I still was not able to get the pretec one working and didnt fiddle with my unit since i had to get back to work and restore the cacko version.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 25, 2007, 01:33:21 am
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I have not been around this issue since i dove back to my c-3200 cacko full.  I need a pda with my drugbooks, encyclopedia, and Dictionary in place.  I am currently looking into purchasing a c-1000 for cacko purpouses and another c-3200 for pdaxii13 rom purpouses besides my c-3200 or maybee a c-3100.  Anyhow, I still was not able to get the pretec one working and didnt fiddle with my unit since i had to get back to work and restore the cacko version.
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If you can find 5.3.3 or before, the Pretec wifi card works without any problem. I've flashed back to 5.3.3 (my own customized image, so not able to share with you) and wait for hint from Meanie.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 25, 2007, 03:28:52 am
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I have not been around this issue since i dove back to my c-3200 cacko full.  I need a pda with my drugbooks, encyclopedia, and Dictionary in place.  I am currently looking into purchasing a c-1000 for cacko purpouses and another c-3200 for pdaxii13 rom purpouses besides my c-3200 or maybee a c-3100.  Anyhow, I still was not able to get the pretec one working and didnt fiddle with my unit since i had to get back to work and restore the cacko version.
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If you can find 5.3.3 or before, the Pretec wifi card works without any problem. I've flashed back to 5.3.3 (my own customized image, so not able to share with you) and wait for hint from Meanie.
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try deleting /etc/pcmcia/hermes.conf and see what cardctl ident shows
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 25, 2007, 07:44:49 am
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try deleting /etc/pcmcia/hermes.conf and see what cardctl ident shows
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Same symptom: dmesg with error code 64, and SD/CF card applet shows 'Agere System blah blah blah'. cardctl ident did show product info 'Pretec', 'CompactWLAN Card 802.11b', '2.5'.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on April 25, 2007, 09:00:22 am
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try deleting /etc/pcmcia/hermes.conf and see what cardctl ident shows
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Same symptom: dmesg with error code 64, and SD/CF card applet shows 'Agere System blah blah blah'. cardctl ident did show product info 'Pretec', 'CompactWLAN Card 802.11b', '2.5'.
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you need to restart the pcmcia service for it to recognise the new settings and reload the drivers
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on April 25, 2007, 10:26:24 am
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you need to restart the pcmcia service for it to recognise the new settings and reload the drivers
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Forgot to mention, I've rebooted and try and got the same result, so the pcmcia service should have been restarted. No luck  

OT: Meanie, your akita initrd is 5.3.6 while hdimage-full is 5.4 beta. I installed these set and get icewm as default. So is the result 5.4 version or should I wait for 5.4 initrd?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Kondou on May 02, 2007, 01:02:08 pm
Qt Can't Input Chinese On Scim

I have install pdaxii13 on my zaurus but i open QT app (PortBase v1.9) input chinese only English keyboard can't select Chinese (my GTK app working is OK) Way~~~ Please help me~~~

QT now is 3.3.5
QT App PortBase, SQLite Bowser, pyMoney

i have set: (on my .xinitrc)

QT_IM_MODULE=scim
GTK_IM_MODULE=scim
XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM

locale:

export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on May 08, 2007, 10:46:17 am
Tried 5.4.1 but Pretec Wifi CF remained fail. Same symptom (error code 64 ???). Deleted all hermes files in etc and still fail. Seems we Pretec users have to stick with 5.3.3 with no further upgrade
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 08, 2007, 11:17:16 am
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Tried 5.4.1 but Pretec Wifi CF remained fail. Same symptom (error code 64 ???). Deleted all hermes files in etc and still fail. Seems we Pretec users have to stick with 5.3.3 with no further upgrade
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it would help if you guys would provide some debugging info instead of just complaining all the time.

I need output for

cardctl ident

cat /var/lib/pcmcia/stab
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: sds on May 09, 2007, 10:53:59 pm
Meanie, the creation of a new normal user seems to be broken in the base install on my 3100.
After using useradd <username> the home directory of the new user gets (seemingly) properly created, however the attempt to start X after login as this new user results in an immediate exit from X with no logging (dmesg & /var/log/messages). Can you take a look into this (this used to work in Beta3).
Also, what is the purpose of the "zaurus" user and homedir?

Would it be possible also to include the jikes 1.22 compiler in the feed?

Thanks for your great work,
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Capn_Fish on May 09, 2007, 11:10:04 pm
I believe that the zaurus username is there to prevent the need to make a new user, but I haven't used pdaXii13, nor am I related to the project, so I could be way off.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: VirtusRex on May 10, 2007, 10:16:50 am
Hey guys,

Does the Pdxii13 build located on this link
"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/" include IceWM as the windows manager???

I'm wondering if there's a version of Pdaxii13 for C1000 with IceWM as the default manager.

Thanks,

VirtusRex
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 10, 2007, 12:13:21 pm
From the IceWM thread:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=160499 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21768&view=findpost&p=160499)
Quote
The latest icewm and rotate package will be part of pdaXii13 full 5.4.1, pdaXii13 base (akita) will have the latest rotate as well but icewm needs to be manually installed....
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Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 10, 2007, 12:54:08 pm
meanie, if you read this, I just went to "http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/" and that page says pdaxii13-akita is version 5.4.2
So I went to your page here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html) and downloaded "pdaXii13-custom.tgz", then upgraded.
Everything went well, but when I opened a console and typed "version", I got this:
pdaxii13 build5.4.1 "Sally"

Is this version number correct, or do I actually have version 5.4.1?

Thank you,
Jon

EDIT: Additional information.
I upgraded from version 5.3.4
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Fatty on May 10, 2007, 01:41:23 pm
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meanie, if you read this, I just went to "http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/" and that page says pdaxii13-akita is version 5.4.2
So I went to your page here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html) and downloaded "pdaXii13-custom.tgz", then upgraded.
Everything went well, but when I opened a console and typed "version", I got this:
pdaxii13 build5.4.1 "Sally"

Is this version number correct, or do I actually have version 5.4.1?

Thank you,
Jon

EDIT: Additional information.
I upgraded from version 5.3.4
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I want to know also. I installed 5.4.2 initrd.bin & hdimage-full.tgz 5.4.1beta. I'm doing so as I expect the new 5.4.2 can solve hermes wifi issue, but I have the same issue as before, so not sure if it is 5.4.2 already.

The new version is very nice. If only I could have my wifi work on it ... No matter what, thanks you very much Meanie!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 11, 2007, 02:35:47 am
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Tried 5.4.1 but Pretec Wifi CF remained fail. Same symptom (error code 64 ???). Deleted all hermes files in etc and still fail. Seems we Pretec users have to stick with 5.3.3 with no further upgrade
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delete wlags49.conf from /etc/pcmcia

I am going to fix that file properly, but you can just remove it in the mean time....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 11, 2007, 02:50:21 am
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meanie, if you read this, I just went to "http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/" and that page says pdaxii13-akita is version 5.4.2
So I went to your page here:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html (http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html) and downloaded "pdaXii13-custom.tgz", then upgraded.
Everything went well, but when I opened a console and typed "version", I got this:
pdaxii13 build5.4.1 "Sally"

Is this version number correct, or do I actually have version 5.4.1?

Thank you,
Jon

EDIT: Additional information.
I upgraded from version 5.3.4
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yeah, you got 5.4.1

note that at some times when I am in the process of updating, things will be out of sync for a bit because it takes time to upload things, currently it takes me 1.5 hours to upload initrd.bin and 5 hours to upload hdimage-full.tgz and I skip uploading hdimage-base.tgz most of the time since it would also take an extra 1.5 hours. also there is zgcc-3.4.6.squashfs and pdaXii13-custom.tgz as well as the custom feed that also get regularly updated but I am not able to upload them all at the same time so it may take up to a week (or longer if I am on the road or travelling) to have a release fully uploaded and the versions synchronised...

read the accompanying pages. they always indicate which version is available and the version number behind the file name is always right even if the release notes have newer versions which just means the file has not been updated yet due to above mentioned reason...

you will also notice that akita base is updated before spitz full most of the time (due to upload speed and time) which means 3100/3200 will need to wait for the new hdimage-full to be uploaded and not flash latest initrd.bin for akita and expecting the older hdimage-full.tgz will magically morph itself into a newer version....
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 11, 2007, 07:15:36 am
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Meanie, the creation of a new normal user seems to be broken in the base install on my 3100.
After using useradd <username> the home directory of the new user gets (seemingly) properly created, however the attempt to start X after login as this new user results in an immediate exit from X with no logging (dmesg & /var/log/messages). Can you take a look into this (this used to work in Beta3).
Also, what is the purpose of the "zaurus" user and homedir?

Would it be possible also to include the jikes 1.22 compiler in the feed?

Thanks for your great work,
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you need to create /etc/skel and then create a new user
not all commands in the xinit scripts have sudo added (i started doing it at some stage but never actually finished it.

hmm. i thought i had made jikes before and it was on my feed, but it most have gotten lost when i moved my pdaXrom feeds from daemons to tyrannoaurus...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 11, 2007, 10:19:52 am
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yeah, you got 5.4.1

<snip>

read the accompanying pages. they always indicate which version is available and the version number behind the file name is always right even if the release notes have newer versions which just means the file has not been updated yet due to above mentioned reason...

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I have looked at every page pertaining to pdaxii13 and cannot find a version number for "pdaXii13-custom.tgz"
Is there somewhere I can find the version number for this file?
Or if I extract "pdaXii13-custom.tgz" onto my desktop PC, which file contains the version information?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: portalgod on May 11, 2007, 11:27:15 am
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yeah, you got 5.4.1

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read the accompanying pages. they always indicate which version is available and the version number behind the file name is always right even if the release notes have newer versions which just means the file has not been updated yet due to above mentioned reason...

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I have looked at every page pertaining to pdaxii13 and cannot find a version number for "pdaXii13-custom.tgz"
Is there somewhere I can find the version number for this file?
Or if I extract "pdaXii13-custom.tgz" onto my desktop PC, which file contains the version information?
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Anyone dual-booting Cacko 1.23 (kernel 2.4.20 i think) and Pdaxii13 (kernel 2.4.20)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 12, 2007, 02:01:23 am
pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 12, 2007, 10:08:53 am
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
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I tried this new method of upgrading pdaxii13-akita with pdaXii13-custom.tgz, but when I'm in the installer menu and I hit "6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom", then select <OK>, then hit my enter key, all that happens is it returns me to the same menu. It acts like it is doing something for about 1½ seconds, then returns to the same menu.
I got my files from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
I placed these 3 files on my CF card
tools.tar
updater.sh (new one, 0.3)
pdaXii13-custom.tgz
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 12, 2007, 10:20:05 am
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
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I tried this new method of upgrading pdaxii13-akita with pdaXii13-custom.tgz, but when I'm in the installer menu and I hit "6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom", then select <OK>, then hit my enter key, all that happens is it returns me to the same menu. It acts like it is doing something for about 1½ seconds, then returns to the same menu.
I got my files from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
I placed these 3 files on my CF card
tools.tar
updater.sh (new one, 0.3)
pdaXii13-custom.tgz
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oops, mispelled pdaXii13-custom.tgz in the updater.sh. try it again with the updated one...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 12, 2007, 10:26:53 am
it isn't available now.
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
is missing.
number 6. is "Reboot"
I double checked, that's what took me so long
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 12, 2007, 10:46:40 am
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it isn't available now.
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
is missing.
number 6. is "Reboot"
I double checked, that's what took me so long
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are you absolutely sure you didn't take the 0.2 version by mistake?
6. is reboot in 0.2
in 0.3 6. is Upgrade
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Jon_J on May 12, 2007, 10:51:36 am
I'll download it again.
You're right, I downloaded 0.2 the second time.
I just downloaded 0.3 again.
I'll try again and I'll edit this post with results.

EDIT:
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
now extracting...
...updating
Reboot.
I'll check version as soon as GUI is launched.

EDIT2:
version
pdaxii13 build5.4.3 "Sally"

 
I like the new pdaxii13 config tool
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on May 12, 2007, 12:42:32 pm
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
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Do people that are running 5.4 or newer need to reinstall icewm before running the upgrade or is that instruction only for the people running 5.3.6 or older?  Thank you for all your hard work on this.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: cal on May 18, 2007, 01:11:19 pm
Nevermind...  I must have done something wrong.  I tried installing the rom again and now I have a little space in root.  I still only have 7k,  is that enough?  After installing firefox to SD with "ipkg -d sd install firefox" I have almost none of that space left...

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Is / supposed to be 0kb right off a fresh install?  After installing several packages to an SD card, ipkg starts spitting errors about not being able to create sym links because there isn't enough memory.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on May 19, 2007, 01:48:33 am
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Nevermind...  I must have done something wrong.  I tried installing the rom again and now I have a little space in root.  I still only have 7k,  is that enough?  After installing firefox to SD with "ipkg -d sd install firefox" I have almost none of that space left...

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Is / supposed to be 0kb right off a fresh install?  After installing several packages to an SD card, ipkg starts spitting errors about not being able to create sym links because there isn't enough memory.
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did you resize your root to 121?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: cal on May 19, 2007, 09:32:54 am
I left root alone.  I don't remember reading any directions that I should change it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ragnorok on May 20, 2007, 11:37:41 pm
- One: STELLAR WORK Meanie.  I've played with your XQt package with Cacko and was impressed, so when I saw you'd tweaked pdaXrom for Akita I had to give it a go (5.4.4 "Sally", by version).  Certainly the most functional distro of this I've ever run.  Only been this weekend, but it hasn't crashed once, it turns on and off reliably, and KDEPIM works like a charm so I have all my data and passwords.  GOOD FORM!

<edit>Can't say it hasn't crashed.  (sniffle)  It kept the time, today (may 21) but set the date back to May 14.  When I used the Date/Time dialog to fix it, and saved, the screen went dark, and I had to power cycle.  On resume it had totally hosed things.  All window decoration is gone (border, titles, etc), the task/applet bar is gone, and none of the keys (like the "super" key) work any longer.  If it weren't for that annoying bunch of icons on the screen I couldn't do anything at all.  (bemused grin)  Dunno what to do at this point, but I think it's going to be simpler to reflash than spend all the time researching what flat file to edit to fix it.  It also appears to have corrupted the xfce installation because that won't load.  Multiple reboots/resets have had no effect.  Bogus.  This time thing is going to be a deal killer in the end.</edit>

- Two: It does lose time.  I *think* when I use the menu to suspend it, it freezes the clock, because it doesn't lose only six hours.  Today it was off by nearly 12.  When I use the button it doesn't *seem* to do this, but it is a bit vexing to have the clock be inaccurate.  Any hints on what I can run/do/edit to troubleshoot this?

- Three: It turns on *very* slowly.  I personally don't care, but it does do that.

- Four: There's this bar at the bottom, see, but running apps never appear there.  Is that normal?  If it is, it is, but if it isn't, I'd like to troubleshoot that as well.

- Five: This appears to have QT installed as well as X, but when I install a QT app it won't work.  I copied all QT libs to /usr/lib/qt/lib and all QT bins to /usr/lib/qt/bin, then symlinked those dirs from /opt/QtPalmtop but it still can't find libs on launch.  I don' t have any QT apps currently installed (nuked kernel-modules by accident and had to reflash), but any pointers in that direction would be nice.  None of the X versions of Sokoban work right.  (little boy pout)

- Six: There's this funny bar at the top of the desktop with all of the normal menu selections under it, as icons.  I would like to completely dispense with that entire bar and icon system.  There are also a number of customizations I'd like to do to the UI, and I'm pretty sure they're doable, but I'm a Rank N00b at X on the Z and have less than no clue where to even start.  I've done some poking around here on OESF, but search has never been a strong point of the OESF forum software, that I've noticed, so I've had limited success.  If anyone has any hints in that direction I'd appreciate it.  For instance, this seems to have "rox" installed, but I can't get it to show me files other than that desktop-level icon thing.  Grrrr, I say.

- Seven: I'm thinking of ditching all managers except icewm or fluxbox.  I don't know how that could be a problem but it never hurts to solicit input.  (grin)

- Eight: I read somewhere that this won't turn until the lid is closed for a while, then it works.  Mine does this.  Minor to say the least, but I thought I'd toss it out there.

- Nine: Every applications launches very slowly.  Again this doesn't bother me, because it's a full-blown Linux distro, in essence, complete with X.  Others may find this more annoying, but nothing I've seen makes any difference in load times, even unloading scim (though that did boost memory quite a bit - sweet)

- Ten: jamvm is equivalent to 1.4.x.  Very nice!  No more brain-dead evm!!  I've even scripted it to launch as "java".  (grin)

- Eleven: One of the backlight brightness settings is "off".  Cute!

- Twelve: Virtual desktops *are* there.  There doesn't seem to be any default to show them, but the "super" key (now that I've read this thread and know what it is) goes back and forth just fine as you please.  Wowzers!!  That'll be a good clutter reducer on this tiny display.

- More later ... these are just my initial observations.  I'm thinking this is the first non-Sharp ROM that's been stable enough to keep around.  My little mind is officially boggled...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: T3_slider on May 21, 2007, 03:42:41 pm
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It does lose time. I *think* when I use the menu to suspend it, it freezes the clock, because it doesn't lose only six hours. Today it was off by nearly 12. When I use the button it doesn't *seem* to do this, but it is a bit vexing to have the clock be inaccurate. Any hints on what I can run/do/edit to troubleshoot this?
Well, I don't know if this will work, but for me (running beta3, not pdaXii13) suspending by using the Power button and resuming using the Home button works every time and I never lose time. You should suspend by holding the On/Off button for about 0.75 seconds and resume by pressing and releasing the Home key. If suspending using the menu doesn't work, what's the big deal? To me it's easier to suspend by holding a button than pressing many to access the menu and the the Suspend item.

Also, you should try setting the time manually using the 'date' command and then typing "/sbin/hwclock --systohc". I don't know if Meanie wrote a script that does that in his Config app, but this makes sure the time is maintained after a reboot.

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It turns on *very* slowly. I personally don't care, but it does do that.
How slowly is *very* slowly? It takes a little bit of time for me, but never more than 10-15 seconds even with Firefox open (again running beta3 and not pdaXii13, so I don't have SCIM etc. installed, but it still shouldn't take TOO long).

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There's this bar at the bottom, see, but running apps never appear there. Is that normal? If it is, it is, but if it isn't, I'd like to troubleshoot that as well.
This is normal for Matchbox as far as I know. There may be an applet to add in that functionality, but I don't know (I use XFCE and therefore don't have that problem).

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I'm thinking of ditching all managers except icewm or fluxbox. I don't know how that could be a problem but it never hurts to solicit input. (grin)
Removing Matchbox is a BAD idea. It can be done, but is not recommended. Matchbox is the main window manager integrated with pdaXrom, and although you can use other window managers (I do) none of them have ALL of the functionality that Matchbox does (because it is used as the default pdaXrom window manager). Therefore, if ever there's a problem with your accessory window manager, you can always fall back on Matchbox.

So, it can be done, but I would recommend against it.

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Every applications launches very slowly. Again this doesn't bother me, because it's a full-blown Linux distro, in essence, complete with X. Others may find this more annoying, but nothing I've seen makes any difference in load times, even unloading scim (though that did boost memory quite a bit - sweet)
EVERY app launches slowly? Really? I mean, for me Firefox launches quite slowly (it's a heavy-duty app), but Leafpad, for example, opens in less than 4 seconds. My terminal app (GTKTerm2) also opens in under 4 seconds. RXVT opens even faster. I never even used the Sharp ROM, so I don't know how fast that is, but I think most lightweight apps open in a very reasonable time for me (again, beta3 so no SCIM etc., but all those can be removed from pdaXii13 if you so wish to create a beta3-like setup with some extra customizations).

I hope you get everything sorted out, because pdaXrom really is a great ROM (distribution), and Meanie and others have worked very hard to get it to a useable state.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ragnorok on May 21, 2007, 08:13:31 pm
- I agree, T3_slider, that pdaXrom is simply amazing.  Always have thought that, but every other time I've loaded it there have been fairly significant, imho, problems remaining.  Now I don't see anything significant except this time thing, and I'm willing to play with that one.

- About the slow loads, I point that out for others because I've seen it mentioned many times in this thread.  I know it's doing a lot, so I don't really care.  A terminal does open quickly.  KOPI takes ten or fifteen seconds.  Firefox takes something like 30, but it sho is sweet when it gets there!  I'm guessing the speed difference we see is you have a 3200 and swap space, where I have a 1000 and no swap at present.  (shrug)  Dunno, and don't care.  If I can figure out this time thing I'm sticking with this puppy.  It's too cool not to!  (geeky smile)

- I haven't tried a command-line date yet.  Thought of it, but haven't tried it.  I know Meanie does have that hardware sync command in there 'cause I've seen it.  I've wondered if doing that every time X starts might be part of the issue?  (shrug)  Dunno.  I'm going to fix this window manager thing first.  Dang that "pinboard" is about annoying.  But this is Linux.  I *have* alternatives!  (happy smile)

- I prefer the power button myself.  I'll just remove the menu suspend. (shrug)  Same with reboot, which never does.  I do a shutdown instead.  No biggie.  This is Linux ... there are always multiple routes to any destination.

- Thanks for the matchbox tip.  I'm going with xfce myself, once I get there.  I had to reflash to fix the window dressing issue, so I'm back to the basics.  I figure that's a really good time to mess with X, in case I have to reflash again.  (giggle)

- Sorry I didn't quote.  In a hurry.  Telescope's out equalizing temperature and I gotta get out amongst the stars.  Thanks!...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: T3_slider on May 22, 2007, 12:36:06 am
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I'm guessing the speed difference we see is you have a 3200 and swap space, where I have a 1000 and no swap at present.
Good point. I do have 256 Mb of swap. I don't know how much that contributes to speed (I always thought swap just allowed more things to run and avoid out of memory errors), but it may have an effect.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on May 24, 2007, 05:27:16 am
Menu for choosing window manager is not working corectly. The only manager that works is openbox. After choosing IceWM i see a line: window manager changed to IceWM and it's still loading openbox. I installed the latest version with IceWm as "default".
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ragnorok on May 24, 2007, 04:47:35 pm
- I noticed this too, Raul, but since I switched to xfce4 I don't really care.  (grin)  That took a bit of tweaking to get to run, but now that it is, I must say I don't know why pdaXii13 doesn't ship with this as the default window manager.  It's nothing short of stunning.

- I do see, however, that KOPI never does trigger alarms unless it's loaded.  Is there something I can do to xfce4 to make it work without having to keep KOPI loaded all the time?  I thought there was something of that sort, but I haven't been able to locate it.

- Also, the neato-handy key mappings that Meanie did for openbox aren't in xfce4, and I haven't been able to determine where that's done.  Hints?  (childish grin)  In particular I like the "super" key, I haven't been able to find the grave symbol anywhere, and the "Fn-number" doesn't appear to perform a "function" key.

- Then I have all the bars set to autohide, but my pointer won't go to the very edge of the screen ... it's a few pixels shy.  I don't think that's an alignment issue because I can hit all the teeny tiny widgets on the screen just fine, and by tapping where one would expect to tap.  Is there any way to, say, map a key to unhide the taskbar, as if I tapped on it's couple of pixels while hidden?

- Lastly, I see pdaXii13 has QT configuration, implying that it will run QT applications.  How would one do that?  I have a handful of QT apps that I would really like to run on this if I could, and that would really be the cat's meow...

- Oh.  Since I started using xfce4, time is never lost.  Bonus!!

- Dang.  Always one more thing!!  There's a CF/SD manager that works with openbox, but I have to drop to the command line to manage them when xfce4.  Am I missing something with that?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Capn_Fish on May 24, 2007, 05:48:26 pm
Isn't there a mount manager for XFCE? I thought I used one when I used it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: T3_slider on May 24, 2007, 06:10:49 pm
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Menu for choosing window manager is not working corectly. The only manager that works is openbox. After choosing IceWM i see a line: window manager changed to IceWM and it's still loading openbox. I installed the latest version with IceWm as "default".
I have no idea how to get this working since I don't use pdaXii13, but Meanie has mentioned manually using xselect to choose which window manager to boot. I have a beta3 setup and therefore don't have xselect by default, but you could try playing with that (or alternatively create a startice executable by copying startx and changing every mention of xinitrc to a .xinitrc.ice or something residing in your home [or any other] directory).

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I must say I don't know why pdaXii13 doesn't ship with this as the default window manager. It's nothing short of stunning.
I love XFCE also, but it is pretty heavy and therefore slows things down a little. A lot of people want speed and therefore Meanie chose to include IceWM. That would be my guess.

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- Also, the neato-handy key mappings that Meanie did for openbox aren't in xfce4, and I haven't been able to determine where that's done. Hints? (childish grin) In particular I like the "super" key, I haven't been able to find the grave symbol anywhere, and the "Fn-number" doesn't appear to perform a "function" key.
All of this nifty keymapping should be in /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap or a similar .xmodmap file (or at least it is in my beta3 setup). To determine which file Meanie used look in the xinitrc file for either Matchbox or IceWM and see which file is loaded for the keymap settings (maybe ~/.xinitrc for Matchbox?). You should copy the whole xmodmap section and put it in your .xinitrc.xfce or whatever you use.

I have attached my .xinitrc for xfce4 in case you want to use it -- it is named xinitrc.xfce, so unless you have a file with that name you shouldn't need to back anything up. You will of course need to update your startxfce4 file to point to ~/xinitrc.xfce

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Then I have all the bars set to autohide, but my pointer won't go to the very edge of the screen ... it's a few pixels shy. I don't think that's an alignment issue because I can hit all the teeny tiny widgets on the screen just fine, and by tapping where one would expect to tap. Is there any way to, say, map a key to unhide the taskbar, as if I tapped on it's couple of pixels while hidden?
Try dragging the pointer down at different parts of the screen (ie all along the bottom of the screen). I found I could only get the pointer low enough at one point on the screen (right in the middle for some reason), probably because of a calibration thing. I don't know of any commands to show the panel (I can get the menu to come up  with a keypress, but it does not unhide the panel).

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Dang. Always one more thing!! There's a CF/SD manager that works with openbox, but I have to drop to the command line to manage them when xfce4. Am I missing something with that?
There is an SD/CF manager for XFCE in the form of a plugin somewhere (probably in one of Chero's feeds that aren't really feeds...?), but it doesn't work well for me. I find it easier to just use the command line (I always have a terminal open anyway).
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ragnorok on June 01, 2007, 08:55:23 pm
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Meanie has mentioned manually using xselect
- I looked at this script and manually duplicated what it does.  Nothing works except mbsession, though it doesn't seem to be picky about what window manager I load.  Since I seem to be forced to use matchbox the window manager also doesn't affect the UI.  (wry grin)
- Could you include your other manager launch files?  I'd like to do it manually by invoking a script, like I do for xfce4, but how to do that isn't immediately apparent from the scripts I've seen.  (shrug)

- I did discover that while xfce4 is super spiffy, it takes nearly 50% longer to launch applications with it than it does with matchbox, though mb takes nearly 10% more memory with nothing else running.  xfce4 also seems to take less memory to actually run applications as well, for some reason.  None-the-less I'm interested in trying all four session managers that are currently on the device to see which I prefer overall.

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All of this nifty keymapping should be in /etc/X11/kb/akita.xmodmap
- I based my xinitrc.xfce on Meanie's xinitrc, so it reads the pdaXii13 preferences and does all the stuff he would do for a matchbox load.  I've done startxfce4 > xlog.txt and seen that it does in fact load the correct keymap file at some point, but it still doesn't seem to have a lot of the mapping contained there.  Any ideas?

- I haven't figured out how to log all messages from X to some file, either.  It won't redirect, but apparently there's an environment variable that tells it where to do that.  I haven't tried that to see, but it may shed light on what's happening with xfce4 if I can log its output.  It seems it's pretty chatty in background.

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Try dragging the pointer down at different parts of the screen
- Bingo!  It's near the lower left corner about half an inch in for me.  Thanks for the suggestion!

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There is an SD/CF manager for XFCE
- So far I've only found a mount manager, and it's pretty darned basic.  Just as easy to hit the command line like you do, rather than use that thing.  (shrug)  That's the least of my problems at this stage.

- I used xfce4 for nearly two weeks without a single problem with time, even though my xinitrc does the same time things that Meanie does for matchbox, since it's nearly the same script.  I went back to matchbox and less than a day later the time was off by 10 hrs and the day was off by nearly two weeks!  I've no clue what's up with that, but somehow it appears that matchbox is the culprit.  Weirdness!

- I really have to figure out if this thing runs Qt apps, and how to do it.  I have yet to find a todo manager with the functionality of StageOne, and I'm missing that pretty sorely at this point.  I also really want my Sokoban!!  (whimper)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: T3_slider on June 02, 2007, 07:00:23 pm
I don't have pdaXii13, so I don't personally have Meanie's keymap, but I did a little customization to get it to work very similarly (ie with the super key and the F1-F10 keys etc.). The only problem is that I can either get F1 and nothing else to work or F2-F10 and not F1 to work. Since F1 is normally just a help file, I chose to get everything but F1 to work with XFCE. I've attached my TWO keymap files (akita.xmodmap.new, which I have akita.xmodmap symlinked to, and userdefined.xmodmap, which I needed to get the F2-F10 keys working. I couldn't get them working with only akita.xmodmap for some reason -- it appears the keymapping in pdaXrom is a little screwy. If I only used akita.xmodmap, I could either get F1-F10 upon every press of just the number key or no F1-F10 at all -- ie I could only use F1-F10 if I never wanted to type any numbers. Maybe I'm incompetent, who knows.). Feel free to create a blend of Meanie's keymap files and these, or alternatively you could name these akita.xmodmap.xfce and userdefined.xmodmap.xfce and only load them in xinitrc.xfce (this may be your best option). You can just change every instance of akita.xmodmap and userdefined.xmodmap in my xinitrc.xfce file from my previous post to xmodmap.xfce and userdefined.xmodmap.xfce.

I've noticed that XFCE interprets Alt+4 as Alt+F4 (and likewise for all other Function keys), meaning I don't have to press Alt+Fn+4 (this may be a disadvantage if you actually need to type Alt+a number, but I don't think I've ever needed to do that).

With XFCE, the brightness/zoom key functionality must be added in manually. To do that, open the menu (ie right-click on the desktop or click the "Start"-like button), go to Settings, and select Window Manager Settings. Click on the Keyboard tab. Move the window up a little by holding Alt and dragging up (to allow you to see the bottom). You want to add some Command shortcuts. Double-click on an available menu item (or click it once and press enter). A dialog box will pop up. For decreasing the zoom, type in the command "xrandr -s 0". Then press OK. Another box will pop up. Press the Super key plus 1.

Repeat for zooming in, decreasing the brightness and increasing the brightness (All commands are outlined below):
Zoom in: "xrandr -s 0" -- Super + 1
Zoom out: "xrandr -s 1" -- Super + 2
Decrease brightness: "/sbin/setfl -" -- Super + 3
Increase brightness: "/sbin/setfl +" -- Super + 4

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Could you include your other manager launch files? I'd like to do it manually by invoking a script, like I do for xfce4, but how to do that isn't immediately apparent from the scripts I've seen. (shrug)
Sure, I've attached my starticewm and xinit.ice scripts (starticewm is in /usr/local/bin and xinit.ice is in my home directory). I would recommend playing around with it though -- I only use IceWM occasionally and so it is not perfect. In fact, the brightness/zoom keys don't even work. Meanie has done some great customizations (or so I've heard), and so his .xinitrc for IceWM might be a better solution (provided you can find it). You can still use the starticewm script I have attached for Meanie's .xinitrc file, you would just have to change "xinit.icewm" to the name of Meanie's .xinitrc file (or rename Meanie's file to ~/xinit.icewm).

NOTE: rename all files to get rid of the .txt extension. Also, I renamed my userdefined.xmodmap file to userdefined.xmodmap.new to prevent any original userdefined.xmodmap file from being overwritten.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 03, 2007, 12:34:51 am
latest 5.4.5 build has been uploaded. again, you can simply just reflash from scratch or use the  flash utility to upgrade...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on June 03, 2007, 12:50:34 am
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latest 5.4.5 build has been uploaded. again, you can simply just reflash from scratch or use the  flash utility to upgrade...
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Impressive rate of progress.  I can barely keep up with the updates
..and i was just messing with usbdongle network stuff.... terrific timing.

Edit: the update worked very well. Probably most of you already knew that.  I'm suspicious of updates, and am always thrilled when one works right. Bravo!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 03, 2007, 06:42:20 pm
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latest 5.4.5 build has been uploaded. again, you can simply just reflash from scratch or use the  flash utility to upgrade...
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Do I use:

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/hdimage-custom.tgz]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...mage-custom.tgz[/url]

OR

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...ii13-custom.tgz (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/pdaXii13-custom.tgz)


..for the custom file for 5.4.5?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 03, 2007, 10:29:32 pm
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latest 5.4.5 build has been uploaded. again, you can simply just reflash from scratch or use the  flash utility to upgrade...
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Do I use:

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/hdimage-custom.tgz]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...mage-custom.tgz[/url]

OR

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...ii13-custom.tgz (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/pdaXii13-custom.tgz)


..for the custom file for 5.4.5?
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hdimage-custom.tgz = user submitted custom hdimage
pdaXii13-custom.tgz = customisation files for pdaXii13 which can be used to upgrade

besides, there is no hdimage-custom.tgz since nobody submitted any custom image yet...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on June 04, 2007, 02:32:07 pm
hdimage-custom.tgz = user submitted custom hdimage
pdaXii13-custom.tgz = customisation files for pdaXii13 which can be used to upgrade
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ok, thanks - upgrade works a treat!
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on June 04, 2007, 04:07:36 pm
Has anyone else seen these issues after running the pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade?

After I run the upgrade and choose icewm as my window manager; I find that both the matchbox cards and volume applets do not load.  

The glipper applet loads fine.  Also, the tasks applets briefly shows until I tap on it then it disappears.  

To get the cards and volume applets to load I have edit the .xinitrc in my home directory and add the following lines after the mb-applet-tasks & >/dev/null line in the icewm section

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mb-applet-cards & >/dev/null
mb-applet-volume & >/dev/null

I have had this happen after my pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade to both 5.44 and 5.45.  My 3200 baseline before the first upgrade was 5.4 (the initial icewm release).

Any help or suggestions are welcomed.  Thanks.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on June 04, 2007, 05:12:59 pm
nothing like that. My display width for new windows is narrowed after screen roatation in icewm. it comes back if I restart X

I did the 5.4.4 to 5.4.5 upgrade ....worked well, only thing I had to change was taht it put my icewm panel back at the bottom of the screen and turned off autohide (overwrote the config, i suppose). took a few seconds t change back.  try running the update again?  check the files you are using? stuff along those lines sounds like the best bet
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 04, 2007, 09:05:38 pm
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Has anyone else seen these issues after running the pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade?

After I run the upgrade and choose icewm as my window manager; I find that both the matchbox cards and volume applets do not load. 

The glipper applet loads fine.  Also, the tasks applets briefly shows until I tap on it then it disappears. 

To get the cards and volume applets to load I have edit the .xinitrc in my home directory and add the following lines after the mb-applet-tasks & >/dev/null line in the icewm section

Code: [Select]
mb-applet-cards & >/dev/null
mb-applet-volume & >/dev/null

I have had this happen after my pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade to both 5.44 and 5.45.  My 3200 baseline before the first upgrade was 5.4 (the initial icewm release).

Any help or suggestions are welcomed.  Thanks.
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you need to add the applets (one applet per line) into a file called icedock which should be located in either /etc/icewm or ~/.icewm
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on June 05, 2007, 02:53:13 pm
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Has anyone else seen these issues....

To get the cards and volume applets to load I have edit the .xinitrc in my home directory and add the following lines after the mb-applet-tasks & >/dev/null line in the icewm section

Code: [Select]
mb-applet-cards & >/dev/null
mb-applet-volume & >/dev/null

I have had this happen after my pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade to both 5.44 and 5.45.  My 3200 baseline before the first upgrade was 5.4 (the initial icewm release).

Any help or suggestions are welcomed.  Thanks.
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you need to add the applets (one applet per line) into a file called icedock which should be located in either /etc/icewm or ~/.icewm
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Thanks Meanie.  That must have been my problem since I didn't have file called icedock in either of those locations.  I used a the toolbar definition file as a template and saved it as icedock and added tasks, cards and volume to it.  I then removed them .xinitrc, restarted X and it worked like a charm.  All three of them load up in the dock and they stay loaded.  

EDIT:  I spoke too soon tasks is still unloading after I use it.  The rest is all good, though.  Cards and Volume are the ones I use the most anyway.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 05, 2007, 08:24:24 pm
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Has anyone else seen these issues....

To get the cards and volume applets to load I have edit the .xinitrc in my home directory and add the following lines after the mb-applet-tasks & >/dev/null line in the icewm section

Code: [Select]
mb-applet-cards & >/dev/null
mb-applet-volume & >/dev/null

I have had this happen after my pdaXii13-custom.tgz upgrade to both 5.44 and 5.45.  My 3200 baseline before the first upgrade was 5.4 (the initial icewm release).

Any help or suggestions are welcomed.  Thanks.
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you need to add the applets (one applet per line) into a file called icedock which should be located in either /etc/icewm or ~/.icewm
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Thanks Meanie.  That must have been my problem since I didn't have file called icedock in either of those locations.  I used a the toolbar definition file as a template and saved it as icedock and added tasks, cards and volume to it.  I then removed them .xinitrc, restarted X and it worked like a charm.  All three of them load up in the dock and they stay loaded.  

EDIT:  I spoke too soon tasks is still unloading after I use it.  The rest is all good, though.  Cards and Volume are the ones I use the most anyway.
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tasks kills itself automatically  that's by design since icewm already has its own task manager and virtual desktop support which is much more advanced. task applet is just used to run autoexec to load things automatically when icewm starts and then task applet is killed.
the task applet is used to keep things consistent across window managers, otherwise, icewem has a better mechanism which is to use the startup and shutdown scripts under /etc/icewm so you can even do things automatically before X shuts down...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: HoloVector on June 05, 2007, 09:57:24 pm
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Thanks Meanie.  That must have been my problem since I didn't have file called icedock in either of those locations.  I used a the toolbar definition file as a template and saved it as icedock and added tasks, cards and volume to it.  I then removed them .xinitrc, restarted X and it worked like a charm.  All three of them load up in the dock and they stay loaded.   

EDIT:  I spoke too soon tasks is still unloading after I use it.  The rest is all good, though.  Cards and Volume are the ones I use the most anyway.
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tasks kills itself automatically  that's by design since icewm already has its own task manager and virtual desktop support which is much more advanced. task applet is just used to run autoexec to load things automatically when icewm starts and then task applet is killed.
the task applet is used to keep things consistent across window managers, otherwise, icewem has a better mechanism which is to use the startup and shutdown scripts under /etc/icewm so you can even do things automatically before X shuts down...
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Well, I'm glad to hear it is commiting suicide by design and not because of anything I did.     Thanks so much for help and also for all your hard work.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 10, 2007, 07:30:55 am
latest build is now 5.4.6
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on June 12, 2007, 09:16:52 am
I flashed 5.4.6 and get a error

INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc/sysinit"
INIT: Entering runlevel: 5
... running rc.local
Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user.

after this many lines with "Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user." error, and i cant logon on root, what is the password ?  
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: climber on June 13, 2007, 04:13:09 am
Meanie,

I've installed on my SL-c3100 the 5.4.5 version and some things are not clear for me:


1.) Icewm window manager:  I'm used to use the keyboard shortcuts as you mentioned in you documentation for pdaXii13. These worked fantastic but with icewm the don't work. Is there a possibility to set these shortcuts as in your documentation. I couldn't find a list with shortcuts for icewm!

2.) mplayer:  When I use a frontend for mplayer (XMMS;smplayer;gmplayer) to watch a mpg video it do not work. For example XMMS a new windows openes, closes itself, opens itself ... and so on. I'm not sure whether it's a problem with the transparent window of mrxvt!? Maybe I've to install something!?

3.) Update from 5.4.5 to 5.4.6:  What is the easiest way to update to your new version without using the hdimage-full.tgz? I don't want to install all the applications from new which I had added since the last version!

Thanks
climber
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 13, 2007, 04:31:16 am
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Meanie,

I've installed on my SL-c3100 the 5.4.5 version and some things are not clear for me:


1.) Icewm window manager:  I'm used to use the keyboard shortcuts as you mentioned in you documentation for pdaXii13. These worked fantastic but with icewm the don't work. Is there a possibility to set these shortcuts as in your documentation. I couldn't find a list with shortcuts for icewm!

2.) mplayer:  When I use a frontend for mplayer (XMMS;smplayer;gmplayer) to watch a mpg video it do not work. For example XMMS a new windows openes, closes itself, opens itself ... and so on. I'm not sure whether it's a problem with the transparent window of mrxvt!? Maybe I've to install something!?

3.) Update from 5.4.5 to 5.4.6:  What is the easiest way to update to your new version without using the hdimage-full.tgz? I don't want to install all the applications from new which I had added since the last version!

Thanks
climber
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1) icewm keymappings are slightly different, i tried to make them the same, but icewm does things differently from openbox. just hit Alt+space and you will see the context menu for the app you are running and it lists the key combos.

2) there actually are 3 different mplayer binaries, mplayer1, mplayer2 and mplayer3. the default when you use mplayer script is mplayer2 which is atty's bvdd and iwmmxt optimized version of mplayer.
gmplayer is mplayer3 which is a newer version (more codecs) but less optimization (slower). it should work if you launch it from the command line. launching it from the menu sometimes does not work, but sometimes does, not sure why... xmms needs to use mplayer1 (you may need to modify the mplayer wrapper to make mplayer1 the default) since it runs via gtk/x11. smplayer should be able to use the default mplayer2 (the version I compiled v0.1.11) unless you upgraded it to some other version.

3) The easiest way is to do an upgrade. download the latest pdaXii13-custom.tgz and use the updated flash utility which has an upgrade option...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on June 13, 2007, 06:34:35 am
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I flashed 5.4.6 and get a error

INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc/sysinit"
INIT: Entering runlevel: 5
... running rc.local
Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user.

after this many lines with "Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user." error, and i cant logon on root, what is the password ? 
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Meanie,

 i got this problem only if i transfer /etc to NAND.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: climber on June 13, 2007, 06:47:12 am
Thanks for your quick answer!

to 1.) I tried these shortcuts but only a few work!

to 2.) How and where can I modify the mplayer wrapper?

to 3.) It seems that the link 'http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/hdimage-custom.tgz' do not work. I only got the info page from tyrannozaurus.

Do you have a link which work?

When I do the upgrade do all my applications and settings stay as before?

New question:
4.) I use the bestcrypt tool  and it works fine. When I would decide to copy your hdimage-full.tgz to the zaurus to get the newest version and install bestcrypt again. Can I access to my crypted container on my cf-
card again as before? Where does bestcrypt know how the file was crypted (DES, Blowfish).

I know many many questions but for me it's important to undestand how it works.

Thanks
climer

Thanks
climber
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on June 13, 2007, 12:32:27 pm
I would like to have polish special letters instead some umlauts that are available in standard pdaxii13. How can I change that?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 13, 2007, 09:31:40 pm
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Thanks for your quick answer!

to 1.) I tried these shortcuts but only a few work!

to 2.) How and where can I modify the mplayer wrapper?

to 3.) It seems that the link 'http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/hdimage-custom.tgz' do not work. I only got the info page from tyrannozaurus.

Do you have a link which work?

When I do the upgrade do all my applications and settings stay as before?

New question:
4.) I use the bestcrypt tool  and it works fine. When I would decide to copy your hdimage-full.tgz to the zaurus to get the newest version and install bestcrypt again. Can I access to my crypted container on my cf-
card again as before? Where does bestcrypt know how the file was crypted (DES, Blowfish).

I know many many questions but for me it's important to undestand how it works.

Thanks
climer

Thanks
climber
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/usr/bin/mplayer is a wrapper script

hdimage-custom.tgz != pdaXii13-custom.tgz !!!!

no idea about bestcrypt. i dont use it.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 13, 2007, 09:34:27 pm
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I would like to have polish special letters instead some umlauts that are available in standard pdaxii13. How can I change that?
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edit /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap and add your changes there...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Ragnorok on June 13, 2007, 10:43:20 pm
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latest 5.4.5 build has been uploaded. again, you can simply just reflash from scratch or use the  flash utility to upgrade...
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- Schwing!  Hopefully this will address some of the niggly things, like randomly failing to turn on when suspending with four or five tasks active.  If there were some way to enable a debug log for that sort of thing I'd be happy to oblige...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Lemuus on June 13, 2007, 11:38:45 pm
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....
gmplayer is mplayer3 which is a newer version (more codecs) but less optimization (slower). it should work if you launch it from the command line. launching it from the menu sometimes does not work, but sometimes does, not sure why...

Hi Meanie, i found two reasons that make gmplayer not work. The hdimage for 5.4.5 missed  cdparanoia, that had some libs that gmplayer needs. The second thing... when you regenerate the menu of icewm the regeneration crops the last part of the command in gmplayer.desktop, and create a bad start command.

Sorry for the bad english, i speak spanish...
and... a complete and absolute off-topic.... you know a good way to buy australian bean coffe?...
Lemuus.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 14, 2007, 12:03:28 am
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gmplayer is mplayer3 which is a newer version (more codecs) but less optimization (slower). it should work if you launch it from the command line. launching it from the menu sometimes does not work, but sometimes does, not sure why...

Hi Meanie, i found two reasons that make gmplayer not work. The hdimage for 5.4.5 missed  cdparanoia, that had some libs that gmplayer needs. The second thing... when you regenerate the menu of icewm the regeneration crops the last part of the command in gmplayer.desktop, and create a bad start command.

Sorry for the bad english, i speak spanish...
and... a complete and absolute off-topic.... you know a good way to buy australian bean coffe?...
Lemuus.
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thanks for the info. i will fix this in next update. btw, i have updated smplayer slightly to rcognise .3gp and .flv files as well and the screen refresh after mplayer exits now works properly. this will be in the next update also...

as for coffee, i drink imported coffee from indonesia so i have no idea
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: psycoman on June 14, 2007, 06:24:35 am
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I flashed 5.4.6 and get a error

INIT: cannot execute "/etc/rc.d/rc/sysinit"
INIT: Entering runlevel: 5
... running rc.local
Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user.

after this many lines with "Parse Error in /etc/busybox.conf, line 3: user." error, and i cant logon on root, what is the password ? 
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Meanie,

 i got this problem only if i transfer /etc to NAND.
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forget, my problem is solved, this caused becose my flash hava a 58mb size partition only, after rezise to 121, no more problem

 
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on June 14, 2007, 08:21:17 pm
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I would like to have polish special letters instead some umlauts that are available in standard pdaxii13. How can I change that?
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edit /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap and add your changes there...
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I did that but it didn't work. So I edited spitz.xmodmap but I made a mistake. I need original one.

Btw. Maintenance mode in latest paxii13 does'nt work.
 
I have some Inodes at boot up that I can't get fscked by the mintenance menu (after reboot+OK).
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 14, 2007, 09:02:55 pm
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I would like to have polish special letters instead some umlauts that are available in standard pdaxii13. How can I change that?
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edit /etc/X11/kb/userdefined.xmodmap and add your changes there...
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I did that but it didn't work. So I edited spitz.xmodmap but I made a mistake. I need original one.

Btw. Maintenance mode in latest paxii13 does'nt work.
 
I have some Inodes at boot up that I can't get fscked by the mintenance menu (after reboot+OK).
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you can extract spitz.xmodmap from pdaXii13-custom.tgz or [a href=\"http://tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/keymap-spitz_0.0.7_armv5tel.ipk]http://tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom....7_armv5tel.ipk[/url]

maintenance mode is only supposed to work on C3000
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on June 19, 2007, 06:48:02 am
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you can extract spitz.xmodmap from pdaXii13-custom.tgz
Ok, I did that. I still have a problem with polish letters. When I add some, the abiword doesn't show any or some menu appear instead.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on June 23, 2007, 12:26:40 am
new build 5.4.7 is now available...

ps: hdimage-full for Alice is still being uploaded so anyone who whines about not being able to download it will be ignored...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on June 23, 2007, 04:28:34 pm
I've done ipkg upgrade. Does it mean I've all patches and new versions of programs as in 5.4.7 or not? I'm not really sure.
I saw that it upgraded firefox. Is there a new version of it?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on June 23, 2007, 05:25:35 pm
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I've done ipkg upgrade. Does it mean I've all patches and new versions of programs as in 5.4.7 or not? I'm not really sure.
I saw that it upgraded firefox. Is there a new version of it?
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you should probably use meanie's upgrade package.
the info on upgrading is here: [a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]

I'm doing that very thing right now
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: climber on June 28, 2007, 04:37:53 am
I want to change the 'Shortcut keys' from the "System --> Input Setup"menue for example Address=kopi. That did not work it's still the same although I restarted X as described.

Which key combination has i use for the 'Silkscreen' inside the 'Input Setup' menue?

Regards,
climber
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: climber on June 28, 2007, 04:38:57 am
I use pdaXii13 v.5.4.7 on SL-C3100

Cheers
climber
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on August 12, 2007, 07:26:14 am
build 5.4.8 is available for testing.
this release comes with an updated kernel (still 2.4.20 but with extra features)
the sound should be better, battery monitoring should be better, and hostap support is improved, ie some wifi cards that previously were created as eth0 will now be wlan0 and scanning should work so wifi radar should work nicely now. in order to get wpa working, you need to install this package: hostap_driver_0.4.7_3_armv5tel.ipk
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on August 14, 2007, 07:36:02 am
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build 5.4.8 is available for testing.
this release comes with an updated kernel (still 2.4.20 but with extra features)
the sound should be better, battery monitoring should be better, and hostap support is improved, ie some wifi cards that previously were created as eth0 will now be wlan0 and scanning should work so wifi radar should work nicely now. in order to get wpa working, you need to install this package: hostap_driver_0.4.7_3_armv5tel.ipk
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Hi Meanie, do  you have the upgrade file (pdaXii13-custom.tgz) available so I can upgrade from 5.4.7 to 5.4.8?

The link at:

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]

for pdaXii13-custom.tgz doesn't actually link to the file (if it exists).

Cheers,

zedkatuf2
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: tanjian2 on August 14, 2007, 08:14:31 am
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build 5.4.8 is available for testing.
this release comes with an updated kernel (still 2.4.20 but with extra features)
the sound should be better, battery monitoring should be better, and hostap support is improved, ie some wifi cards that previously were created as eth0 will now be wlan0 and scanning should work so wifi radar should work nicely now. in order to get wpa working, you need to install this package: hostap_driver_0.4.7_3_armv5tel.ipk
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Hi Meanie, do  you have the upgrade file (pdaXii13-custom.tgz) available so I can upgrade from 5.4.7 to 5.4.8?

The link at:

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/tmp/[/url]

for pdaXii13-custom.tgz doesn't actually link to the file (if it exists).

Cheers,

zedkatuf2
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Try here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/]Pdaxii13 build files[/url]
The link you quoted  was broken from 5.4.7 onwards.... not sure why.... but have fun with 5.4.8..... Note: I would guess that tarball doesn't upgrade the kernel which you might want to do to get the new sound stuff - it makes a HUGE difference to the sound quality (thanks eviLjazz!)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on August 14, 2007, 01:40:44 pm
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Try here:
Pdaxii13 build files (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/)
The link you quoted  was broken from 5.4.7 onwards.... not sure why.... but have fun with 5.4.8..... Note: I would guess that tarball doesn't upgrade the kernel which you might want to do to get the new sound stuff - it makes a HUGE difference to the sound quality (thanks eviLjazz!)
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Hi

I can get the initrd.bin for 5.4.8 from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]

...which I guess will include the new kernel (which I've been using successfully on 5.4.7)
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: adf on August 14, 2007, 03:42:55 pm
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Try here:
Pdaxii13 build files (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/)
The link you quoted  was broken from 5.4.7 onwards.... not sure why.... but have fun with 5.4.8..... Note: I would guess that tarball doesn't upgrade the kernel which you might want to do to get the new sound stuff - it makes a HUGE difference to the sound quality (thanks eviLjazz!)
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Hi

I can get the initrd.bin for 5.4.8 from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]

...which I guess will include the new kernel (which I've been using successfully on 5.4.7)
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I'm pretty sure the kernel is in tools.tar, actually.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on August 14, 2007, 04:37:36 pm
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I'm pretty sure the kernel is in tools.tar, actually.
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OK, np - I put tools.tar on my sd card too, so it's worked successfully.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: hughsieman on August 17, 2007, 01:41:21 pm
Hi

Firstly, I would like to thank Meanie for the work he has done on his various projects and the time he puts in to make things as easy to install and configure as possible. I tried pdaxQTrom a few months ago on my SL-C3200 and then graduated a few weeks ago to pdaXii13 Version 5.4.6.

I'm just wondering what I need to download and install to upgrade to 5.4.8. I would like to fully upgrade my installation including the latest kernel.

I have looked at the links in this thread but cannot find the instructions to upgrade an existing installation.

Thanks for your help in advance

Hughsieman
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: zedkatuf2 on August 17, 2007, 03:27:00 pm
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Hi

Firstly, I would like to thank Meanie for the work he has done on his various projects and the time he puts in to make things as easy to install and configure as possible. I tried pdaxQTrom a few months ago on my SL-C3200 and then graduated a few weeks ago to pdaXii13 Version 5.4.6.

I'm just wondering what I need to download and install to upgrade to 5.4.8. I would like to fully upgrade my installation including the latest kernel.

I have looked at the links in this thread but cannot find the instructions to upgrade an existing installation.

Thanks for your help in advance

Hughsieman
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[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/tools.tar]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/tools.tar[/url]

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/initrd.bin (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/initrd.bin)

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/updater.sh (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/updater.sh)

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13...ii13-custom.tgz (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/build/pdaXii13-custom.tgz)

Reboot/press reset button in batt compartment.

Press & hold OK button on kbd & then press power on button...full details for next steps on http://www.tyrannozaurus.com (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com) & here on oesf.

To use wpa on wlan card u need to downgrade hostap to this version:
http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu...-3_armv5tel.ipk (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/hostap-driver_0.4.7-3_armv5tel.ipk)
Brilliant distro.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: hughsieman on August 18, 2007, 02:52:22 pm
Thank you for the info above.

I have downloaded all of the files in your post but one thing I forgot to mention is that I am using the full version with the hd image extracted to the microdrive.

It mentions on the upgrade page here:-

http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/Zauru...gebase/Pdaxii13 (http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/ZaurusKnowledgeBase/SoftwareKnowledgebase/Pdaxii13)

That as I am using the full version I will need to flash my Zaurus, install the latest hdd image (which I refer to above) and also use the pdaXii13-custom.tgz file.

Therefore, I have also downloaded the latest hdimage-full.tgz, which I think is 5.4.7, and I'm ready to go I think.

Please would you confirm that this is the case. I want to update fully to 5.4.8 but keep my /data and installed apps together with my general settings.

Also, I would be very grateful if you would explain what each of these upgrade files and processes actually does just so that I understand what is happening.

Thanks very much for your help.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: hughsieman on August 19, 2007, 09:23:42 am
Right, I've done this now but I reflashed the NAND as well and am now back to a clean install. At least my /data is intact.

I flashed the NAND, reinstalled the latest hdd image and then used the pdaxii13-custom.tgz to upgrade. I did all of this from the installer menu. It's no big deal, I'll just set it back up again and reinstall my extra apps but please could someone confirm that to upgrade in future all I need to do is install the hdd image and use the latest pdaxii13-custom.tgz file and that this will upgrade my kernel and installation to the latest version.

Also, I have noticed that on the Info tab of the config tool it now says pdaXii13 build 5.4.8 "Alice". Should this not be Sally or Akita on an SL-C3200.

Thanks for the help.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on August 19, 2007, 07:48:38 pm
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Right, I've done this now but I reflashed the NAND as well and am now back to a clean install. At least my /data is intact.

I flashed the NAND, reinstalled the latest hdd image and then used the pdaxii13-custom.tgz to upgrade. I did all of this from the installer menu. It's no big deal, I'll just set it back up again and reinstall my extra apps but please could someone confirm that to upgrade in future all I need to do is install the hdd image and use the latest pdaxii13-custom.tgz file and that this will upgrade my kernel and installation to the latest version.

Also, I have noticed that on the Info tab of the config tool it now says pdaXii13 build 5.4.8 "Alice". Should this not be Sally or Akita on an SL-C3200.

Thanks for the help.
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updater.sh is the installer program

tools.tar contains some tools required by the installer and also contains the updated kernels (the kernels don't change very often so there is no need to redownload this file each time)

initrd.bin contains the rootfs and other skeleton filesystem. by flashing this file, your flash will be wiped and overrridden with the content of the initrd.bin

hdimage-full.tgz contains the extended rootfs for the MicroDrive capable Zaurii and by installing it, the roofts and all its contents are also overridden, ie the contents of the first MD partition is overrriden with the contents of the hdimage file. The third partition (mounted as /data) is not touched.

for most upgrades, all you need is updater.sh, tools.tar and pdaXii13-custom.tgz which just updates various files for you but won't require you to replace your rootfs which the initrd.bin and hdimage-full.tgz requires

when doing the upgrade using the pdaXii13-custom.tgz, some of the packages are not updated and requires you to manual upgrade those packages as described in the release notes.
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on August 23, 2007, 12:06:42 am
build 5.4.9 has been uploaded. it fixes and improves on a few things in 5.4.8. see the release notes...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Raul on August 25, 2007, 03:08:00 am
I've upgraded to akita on nand and firefox segment faults every time and very soon after launching. It's unusable. Is there anything I can do?
It was better with 5.4.8
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: jpmatrix on August 25, 2007, 04:04:18 am
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I've upgraded to akita on nand and firefox segment faults every time and very soon after launching. It's unusable. Is there anything I can do?
It was better with 5.4.8
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strange...
it should be akita-version related because on my c3000 5.4.8 upgraded to 5.4.9 it is working good...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: snk4ever on September 06, 2007, 04:10:35 am
Is it possible to use PDAxii13 on a C760 ?
If so, what version should I use ?
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: Meanie on September 06, 2007, 04:21:28 am
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Is it possible to use PDAxii13 on a C760 ?
If so, what version should I use ?
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try pdaXii13 Charlie. it is still very experimental due to lack of testers and test machine.
you will need to install pdaXrom beta1 and upgrade to pdaXii13 Charlie using the pdaXii13-custom.tgz method...
see the pdaXii13 upgrade thread...
Title: Pdaxii13 On Nand
Post by: snk4ever on September 06, 2007, 04:32:43 am
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Is it possible to use PDAxii13 on a C760 ?
If so, what version should I use ?
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try pdaXii13 Charlie. it is still very experimental due to lack of testers and test machine.
you will need to install pdaXrom beta1 and upgrade to pdaXii13 Charlie using the pdaXii13-custom.tgz method...
see the pdaXii13 upgrade thread...
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OK, thanks for the answer. The problem is that I use my C760 now so I have to take probably one week-end to backup my cacko, try this pdax, discuss on the board (or through IRC ?) and restore the cacko probably for the next week.
So don't expect infos soon. I'll read the pdaXii13 upgrade thread though.