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Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 22, 2007, 10:05:09 am
Thunar 0.8.0 and xfce 4.4.0 got released yesterday and if I can get this running on pdaXii13 I think I may very well end up being the happiest Z geek in Lancs, if not the UK!?  

I  tried compiling the last release but had no luck- these latest releases may fare better (they depend on less libs and daemons now apparently) but I've been unable to get hold of the sources from neither the xfce site nor GNOMEfiles but hopefully kkazakov13 will be able to get hold of it as he has very kindly said he'd try to get it compiled and packaged for us (well, he offered to compile 'something' for me)- Thanks kkazakov13!!!

http://www.xfce.org/ (http://www.xfce.org/)

http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Thunar (http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Thunar)

Does Thunar act as a drop-in replacement for ROX in that it also handles the desktop icons or does another program in XFCE do that?

Good luck kk!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: InSearchOf on January 22, 2007, 10:27:12 am
Thunar is just a file manager....

Late
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: InSearchOf on January 22, 2007, 10:29:46 am
I lied!

that is a new feature of xfce 4.4 Thunar does handle desktop short cuts now...

Late

PS. Xfce 4.4 pdaxrom image... hmmm...
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 22, 2007, 10:40:54 am
If no one did it before I'm back in 2 days, I will try to compile it.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 22, 2007, 11:30:31 am
The main reasons I want this new Thunar (and xfce too maybe) are

* ROX has little interest in retaining your desktop settings/icons - this is one of the few remaing flaws in our beloved pdaXii13

* ROX makes you faff around opening multiple windows to copy stuff- no fun when you're using touchscreen input

* ROX has problems with file extensions and associations, you need to mess with external MIME editors to set it up

pdaXrom is going to be very slick when we get this running!

It's been kinda cool using ROX for a while seeing as its based on RiscOS which ran on the first ARM-based machines, the Acorn Archimedes series so it was kinda like the Z paying tribute to its granddad or summat?  
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 22, 2007, 12:29:25 pm
sources are over here. (http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/fat_tarballs/)

Have fun,
Chero (running xfce 4.4 rc2 on pdaX)
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 23, 2007, 03:09:10 pm
I'm on it. Hope I will build it soon.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 08:44:17 am
I'm still building it ... only few packages left. Any quick howto what to do after I install everything? can anyone help how to start xfce, which startup scripts to change?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Raul on January 24, 2007, 08:51:34 am
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I'm still building it ... only few packages left. Any quick howto what to do after I install everything? can anyone help how to start xfce, which startup scripts to change?
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=152247\")
Look at the [a href=\"http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/Chero/why-pdax-xfce4/]Chero's web page[/url]
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 24, 2007, 09:04:26 am
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I'm still building it ... only few packages left. Any quick howto what to do after I install everything? can anyone help how to start xfce, which startup scripts to change?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152247\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

if you do "xfce4-session", a "startxfce" or "startxfce4" script will be created.

You can also change your original .xinitrc to point to "xfce4-session" instead of openbox/fbpanel. This way you'll have the correct keyboard settings etc.

I'll send you my scripts for 4.4rc2 this evening.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: TheWalt on January 24, 2007, 12:31:18 pm
Sweet... bout time this was finalized.  Looking forward to testing things out
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 01:02:44 pm
Built it, packaged it, but still playing with it. Looks really fast.

However, I have some issues like after suspend, can't resume it, also it starts rotated in portrait mode, and such. Hope you can help me to cleanup all the things, and I'll package it with the correct settings files.

P.P. I'll build most, if not all of the extra xfce plug-ins too.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 24, 2007, 01:23:10 pm
That's fantastic news kkazakov13, thanks for doing this for us! If any of the packages are too big for uploading to OESF then hopefully Tyrannozaurus will be able to add it to it's b3 feed, which I'm sure will happen anyway if we get it working. If we're lucky we might not experience your problems with resuming under pdaXii13?!  
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 01:55:08 pm
One image

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-184825_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-184825_640x480_scrot.png)

and another one

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-185255_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-185255_640x480_scrot.png)


I have to get rid of this warning. Also my left button does not work with the stylus. Chero, help! Give me your startup scripts, please!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Capn_Fish on January 24, 2007, 02:10:41 pm
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One image

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-184825_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-184825_640x480_scrot.png)

and another one

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-185255_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-185255_640x480_scrot.png)


I have to get rid of this warning. Also my left button does not work with the stylus. Chero, help! Give me your startup scripts, please!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152273\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Must...not...drool...on...keyboard!

That looks totally AWESOME!!!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 24, 2007, 02:23:34 pm
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I have to get rid of this warning. Also my left button does not work with the stylus. Chero, help! Give me your startup scripts, please!
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152273\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Are you sure the left button doesn't work ?
Try the key left to the "-" key or the left shift key.

To get rid of the warning : create another user. When running thunar as root it is supposed to show that message. It also does this on the desktop.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 02:29:01 pm
I don't want to run like other user. pdaXrom makes troubles when I try this.

I might remove it from the source code  I know I'm root ...

About the fn+click - i started xfce through startxfce4 and xmodmap wasn't loaded. After loading it manually, I have left click now.


one more image

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-192659_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-192659_640x480_scrot.png)
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 24, 2007, 02:34:00 pm
   

Yes, kill the 'Awww! You're root! I'm telling!' warning please kk!

Exciting stuff!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 24, 2007, 02:41:03 pm
The xinitrc.xfce script is attached .

Copy the /usr/X11R6/bin/startx to /usr/bin/startxfce
Then edit it and change the references to .xinitrc to xinitrc.xfce

Basically it's just a copy of .xinitrc without fbpanel and openbox. These are replaced by xfce4-session.

Edit :
Forgot the script ??!!

Please also check for the scripts over here. (http://users.telenet.be/zaurususer/ipkgs/experimental/) They are based on beta3.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 02:54:19 pm
Forgot to attach it?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 24, 2007, 03:13:33 pm
just a question :
can you change "session and startup settings" and do you get a menu with "suspend/hibernate/log off/..." when quiting xfce ?
These things (the session manager) don't work on my Z (r121 with xfce4.4rc2). They did when I was running xfce4.4beta1 and xfce4.4beta2

edit :
Danboid, when opening an .xls from thunar it takes 11secs to start gnumeric with the file opened....

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 03:23:54 pm
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just a question :
can you change "session and startup settings" and do you get a menu with "suspend/hibernate/log off/..." when quiting xfce ?
These things (the session manager) don't work on my Z (r121 with xfce4.4rc2). They did when I was running xfce4.4beta1 and xfce4.4beta2

edit :
Danboid, when opening an .xls from thunar it takes 11secs to start gnumeric with the file opened....

Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=152285\")

[a href=\"http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-202141_640x480_scrot.png][img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-202141_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /][/url]

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-24-202259_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-24-202259_640x480_scrot.png)

Yes, I can. Seems so far everything works. I'm still tuning the start script now.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 03:36:01 pm
Ok, first "preview" version

download from here:

http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/ (http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/)

I've removed the annoying labels "you are root ...".

you may need some standard libraries from the b3 feed.
* terminal depends on vte *


start with "startxfce4"

the config file is /home/root/xinitrc.xfce44 to not overlap your existing settings.

I've not built yet all of the plugins. Some give errors while compiling.

Fn + 3 / Fn + 4 does not seem to work, as also a lot of other things, which were working perfectly under ROX  I hope to have them working real soon ...


P.P. I'm currently rebuilding xfdesktop to allow icons on the desktop (EDIT: didn't worked).
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 24, 2007, 04:47:45 pm
Damn, I often lose the task bar. Don't know why, but it disappears sometimes
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 24, 2007, 05:02:52 pm
No desktop icons yet? I definitely want that. Think I'll wait until you've got that working at least. Let us know when you update the packages please kkaza!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: InSearchOf on January 24, 2007, 07:58:21 pm
Hey... I'm building these packages for the pdaxrom-builder...

So... I will prolly be releasing a version of pdaxrom with solely xfce instead of fbpanel and openbox...

Late
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Capn_Fish on January 24, 2007, 08:30:35 pm
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Hey... I'm building these packages for the pdaxrom-builder...

So... I will prolly be releasing a version of pdaxrom with solely xfce instead of fbpanel and openbox...

Late
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152313\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

What about other versions with other WMs?

Still, Xfce is MUCH better than Openbox and Matchbox, so good idea!

EDIT: Also, any update on the release date?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 25, 2007, 02:17:38 am
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Damn, I often lose the task bar. Don't know why, but it disappears sometimes
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152299\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

you mean the taskbar or the panel ?

Try a ctrl-alt-bs when you lose it and check what messages you have on the screen.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 25, 2007, 03:29:12 am
I would've thought Zaurus users would still need to use some of the matchbox applets such as the screen blanker, Light and Power settings etc. or does xfce 4.4.0 fully account for PDA users too? Otherwise, are the mb-applets compatible with the xfce panel or must we still run mb-panel as well?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 03:33:32 am
I think it was because of buggy/crappy MPD taskbar plugin ... could not get it to work correctly, and after removing it, i have no crashes so far.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 03:46:22 am
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I would've thought Zaurus users would still need to use some of the matchbox applets such as the screen blanker, Light and Power settings etc. or does xfce 4.4.0 fully account for PDA users too? Otherwise, are the mb-applets compatible with the xfce panel or must we still run mb-panel as well?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152340\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

So far I haven't managed to start mb applets on xfce. I'm searching for information on this. However, I rebuilt once more xfdesktop, and I should have icons on the desktop possibility, but still don't have it  Have to read more on this, though.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 25, 2007, 03:59:59 am
Thanks for the fast updates kkazakov! Sounds like this will be well worth the wait (not that its been long
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 04:05:15 am
I'm trying to get icon desktops, from the readme i need thunar-vfs, will check this. Also on quit menu i'm thinking to replace some of the functions there (or add maybe) , i don't need shut down options, would replace it with "suspend" that works on pdax.

p.p. I'm definately thinking that this will be _my_ desktop / window manager , and will try to get it perfectly running.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: baallrog on January 25, 2007, 05:31:25 am
Hi kkazakov13,

I have download and installed all the package present on your ftp.

When i launch startxfce4 the gui run well but i have two problem :
- it's in portrait mode (i have a slC1000).
- the taskbar disappear after loading itself.

I run PdaxII13 for nand.

Thank you in advance !!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 05:38:36 am
The portrait mode should be fixed, but for C1000 i don't know. startxfce4 normally changes it, but I think I saw something for c1000 and xfce on Chero's site.

About the taskbar - open terminal and start it from console - xfce4-panel , and check errors. Probably you're missing some library.




Other news: I could not get thunar-vfs up and running  it requires HAL >= 0.5 to work, but HAL requires kernel 2.6.x and some other things ... which we don't have in b3 setup. Crap. Any ideas ?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 25, 2007, 05:45:42 am
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Quote
I would've thought Zaurus users would still need to use some of the matchbox applets such as the screen blanker, Light and Power settings etc. or does xfce 4.4.0 fully account for PDA users too? Otherwise, are the mb-applets compatible with the xfce panel or must we still run mb-panel as well?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152340\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

So far I haven't managed to start mb applets on xfce. I'm searching for information on this. However, I rebuilt once more xfdesktop, and I should have icons on the desktop possibility, but still don't have it  Have to read more on this, though.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152343\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

mb-applets : make sure you have a systray running, they should appear in it. To load them at startxfce4 : add them to autostarted applications.

icons : check desktop-settings/behavour.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 06:39:23 am
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mb-applets : make sure you have a systray running, they should appear in it. To load them at startxfce4 : add them to autostarted applications.

icons : check desktop-settings/behavour.

Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152355\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I already searched there. What should I find? Seems something _IS_ missing, however:
[a href=\"http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-25-133117_640x480_scrot.png\" target=\"_blank\"]
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 25, 2007, 07:38:30 am
HAL dependence was the main reason behind me failing to get a recent Thunar/XFCE version going last time I tried I think. I was hoping this necessity would've been dropped to get desktop support in Thunar 0.8.0 but obviously not  No icons would be a big loss to its viability as a rox desktop replacement. This would obviously be no problem for the new pdaX, but that probably still won't have any hardware accelerated graphics on cxx00.

The only mb taskar applets I'm really bothered about are the card applet (this is the main one for me, mainly used for turning on/off wifi) the screen blanker and the menu one, maybe. Does the card applet work OK?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: TheWalt on January 25, 2007, 07:38:43 am
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Hey... I'm building these packages for the pdaxrom-builder...

So... I will prolly be releasing a version of pdaxrom with solely xfce instead of fbpanel and openbox...

Late
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152313\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Sweet  
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on January 25, 2007, 07:58:03 am
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mb-applets : make sure you have a systray running, they should appear in it. To load them at startxfce4 : add them to autostarted applications.

icons : check desktop-settings/behavour.

Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=152355\")

I already searched there. What should I find? Seems something _IS_ missing, however:
[a href=\"http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-25-133117_640x480_scrot.png]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152363\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/url][/div]

You're right about mb-applets : some work just fine, others don't. There are replacements for some of them (xfce4-panel-plugins or launchers)

Desktop items : have to be enabled during compile-time. Check ./configure output.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 08:29:54 am
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You're right about mb-applets : some work just fine, others don't. There are replacements for some of them (xfce4-panel-plugins or launchers)

Desktop items : have to be enabled during compile-time. Check ./configure output.

Chero.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152372\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Seems you're not following me. I told you that thunar-vfs requires HAL, but HAL requires kernel 2.6.x. and xfdesktop with icons requires thunar-vfs. I already tried enabling all possible options without luck.

EDIT: I'm rebuilding xfdesktop *again* ... hope this time with the correct stuff.
EDIT2: Ok, it might require my D-Bus after all ... at least bigger than 0.36, and the default one is 0.21. I have D-Bus in another thread (about the bluetooth one), but might upload it as well.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 10:09:12 am
Finally did it, here are 2 shots:

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-25-170446_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-25-170446_640x480_scrot.png)

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-25-170502_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-25-170502_640x480_scrot.png)


files are in http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/ (http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/)

( you don't need devel/ directory, except rebuilding something )

it requires my dbus package, in order to work. Tried with original one, but failed with missing stuff. Please remove original dbus package and install my dbus and dbus-glib

I'm working on customizations now, want all keys to work as in ROX. When I re-upload stuff, will let you know.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: ArchiMark on January 25, 2007, 10:49:00 am
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Finally did it, here are 2 shots:

[Snip]

I'm working on customizations now, want all keys to work as in ROX. When I re-upload stuff, will let you know.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=152388\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


This is great work, kkazakov!

Look forward to trying this out soon on my 3200....

Mark

PS.  I really like your car and house in the photos. You must be a very successful Zaurus developer, right??

 
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 25, 2007, 10:49:31 am
WOW!!!

       
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 10:55:15 am
Yeah  I wish this was my car ...

the only problem I have now is this (when starting xfce, and when clicking on trash without Thunar already running):

[img]http://up.drun.net/v/s/2/f/2007-01-25-175346_640x480_scrot.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /] (http://up.drun.net/i/f/2007-01-25-175346_640x480_scrot.png)

Still trying to solve, this is the only bug left. It's something D-Bus related, but don't know what yet ...
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: baallrog on January 25, 2007, 11:06:36 am
Yeah !!
Good news !!!

can you plz (you or someone) tell us how to install, what to install ...

I install all the package but perhaps some are not necessary to run xfce !!
And another things : dependances ...

I have fix my problems but i don't know what packages ...
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 25, 2007, 12:15:50 pm
If you really want it useful, better wait for a bit more complete packages. Not that it doesn't work right now, I use it, but still, few packages will be repackaged very soon. Otherwise - install everything from here - http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/ (http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/) ,  without devel/ directory. It's your choice if you intall xfprint* and also *plugin* files. But the rest I think are almost all required.

Be aware that my dbus and dbus-glib packages is different than the default dbus! I'm using it, but you might break something else that depends on the old one.

You should remove dbus and install those two first, then the rest packages.

Happy experimenting


P.P. Something else that does not work - switching between portrait and landscape does not call xrandr, will have to check this too.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: baallrog on January 25, 2007, 01:37:06 pm
I Test your work since the beginning of this post !
And the result is very interesting !
Xfce is speed and nice !

Thunar has gone mad one time ... don't know why !
I was trying to access my /home/root directory ...

I think i will try the news version tomorow.

Thank you !!!!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: scoutme on January 25, 2007, 08:13:36 pm
what are xfce4 library requirements? what packages should I install to have it working?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 02:35:54 am
Remove default libpng 1.2.5 , install mine, 1.2.12.
Remove dbus , install dbus and dbus-glib from my site.

install vte from the official feed.

Then install all of the rest packages wherever you have some place.
If you want - don't install some of the plugins, and xfprint.

start with starxfce4.

that's all for this version now.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 02:36:52 am
Ok, re-uploaded xfce-utils ... forgot to do it the last time. This fixes the issue with portrait mode and probably some other stuff
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: baallrog on January 26, 2007, 03:02:34 am
I can't download Libpng :
Forbidden
You do not have permission to access this document.

Permission problem ...

Thank you for your work !! Xfce Rocks !!!!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 03:08:47 am
Anyone succeeded in creating launcher icons on the desktop? I have only 3 icons there and can't create more. It crashes when I try ... no output in the window why it crashed
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 03:10:27 am
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I can't download Libpng :
Forbidden
You do not have permission to access this document.

Permission problem ...

Thank you for your work !! Xfce Rocks !!!!
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Sorry, wrong perms while scp-ing   fixed it.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: danboid on January 26, 2007, 04:14:59 am
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Anyone succeeded in creating launcher icons on the desktop? I have only 3 icons there and can't create more. It crashes when I try ... no output in the window why it crashed
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Is anyone running the latest xfce/thunar on their PC who can check that this isn't a pdaX-specific error (that is if others are having this problem too)?

Sounds like you're getting close now but I think I'll hold out a little longer before I install- I want to see what happens with these icons.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 06:40:19 am
Damn, just got nasty server crash while i was just trying to copy text from abiword to text file ... It might be that the server was started remotely via ssh ... but who knows

Anyway ... seems XFCE is significantly slower than ROX  Trying to do some simple tasks like copy/paste/browser/etc was so slow ... and i had nothing started except xfce and 2-3 applets

I compiled it with optimizations ...
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on January 26, 2007, 01:37:46 pm
How we're progressing on this? Anyone wants to do more on tweaking xfce? I don't have enough time to play with it. I want a working system, and XFCE build seems currently not stable enough to me

I'm back to rox until we can figure out the left stuff. Can't do everything by myself ...
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: InSearchOf on January 26, 2007, 03:29:07 pm
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How we're progressing on this? Anyone wants to do more on tweaking xfce? I don't have enough time to play with it. I want a working system, and XFCE build seems currently not stable enough to me

I'm back to rox until we can figure out the left stuff. Can't do everything by myself ...
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I'm working on it... slowly... all the packages are in pdaxrom-builder and build fine... but I haven't put together a xfce build yet... but in due time... I got my 4gb SD card today in the mail so I will be back on the Z tonight... maybe I will install the packages I built and test things out...

Late
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: psycoman on February 01, 2007, 08:23:08 am
im running xfce44 in r121, and have a small issue, some icons dont show like Battery icon in panel. only i see isa image like a X =/
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: wellswang on February 23, 2007, 08:56:41 am
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If you really want it useful, better wait for a bit more complete packages. Not that it doesn't work right now, I use it, but still, few packages will be repackaged very soon. Otherwise - install everything from here - http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/ (http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/) ,  without devel/ directory. It's your choice if you intall xfprint* and also *plugin* files. But the rest I think are almost all required.

Be aware that my dbus and dbus-glib packages is different than the default dbus! I'm using it, but you might break something else that depends on the old one.

You should remove dbus and install those two first, then the rest packages.

Happy experimenting


P.P. Something else that does not work - switching between portrait and landscape does not call xrandr, will have to check this too.
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hi kkazakov,

i've installed all your package for xfce4.4
but when i started xfce for my wm,
the desktop icons and "recycle bin warning" dialog displayed, then disappeared quickly.

so there is nothing on the desktop
no icons , no taskbar , no dialog window
only blue background and my mouse pointer

can you help me to find out the cause ?

thanks.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on February 23, 2007, 09:21:08 am
You have some lib missing, checkout console messages
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: baallrog on February 23, 2007, 03:20:20 pm
I think you have missed one or more library
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: wellswang on February 23, 2007, 07:39:46 pm
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You have some lib missing, checkout console messages
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Hi,
the console message is :
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# startxfce
Loading /etc/sysconfig/keyboard/kernel.map

Removing empty element from the valid list of fontpaths
MODEL:SL-C3100
** Message: Querying Xkb extension
** Message: Your X server does not support Xkb extension

(xfce-mcs-manager:9673): Gtk-WARNING **: 找不到图标“xfce4-mouse”。“hicolor”主题也没有找到,可能您需要先安装它�?
             您可以从下面的位置获得一个副本:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases
** Message: This build doesn't include support for XF86Misc extension
** Message: Querying Xkb extension
** Message: Your X server does not support Xkb extension

(xfce4-panel:9678): Gtk-WARNING **: 找不到图标“utilities-terminal”。“hicolor”主题也没有找到,可能您需要先安装它�?
               您可以从下面的位置获得一个副本:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases

(xfce4-menu-plugin:9683): Gtk-WARNING **: 找不到图标“xfce4-backdrop”。“hicolor”主题也没有找到,可能您需要先安装它�?
                 您可以从下面的位置获得一个副本:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases
** Message: Xfce 菜单: screen changed: 0

** Message: No valid plug window.

(xfce4-panel:9678): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling gtk_widget_realize() on a widget that isn't inside a toplevel window is not going to work very well. Widgets must be inside a toplevel container before realizing them.

(xfdesktop:9682): Gtk-WARNING **: 找不到图标“xfce4-backdrop”。“hicolor”主题也没有找到,可能您需要先安装它�?
         您可以从下面的位置获得一个副本:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases

the chinese character in the message meanes

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Gtk-WARNING **: 找不到图标“xfce4-backdrop”。“hicolor”主题也没有找到,可能您需要先安装它�?
         您可以从下面的位置获得一个副本:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases

---------------------------

Gtk-WARNING **: Cannot find icon “xfce4-backdrop”, cannot find theme “hicolor”, you may install it first.
         You can download a copy from here:
        http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases

so, i still do not know which lib i missed.

and the icons and warning dialog were displayed (taskbar was not displayed), they JUST[/c] disappeared quickly.

and when they disappeared, there is no error message printed in console.

i think maybe this problem is relate with the xfce taskbar.

thanks.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on February 24, 2007, 12:10:48 am
You need hicolor-icon-theme package, attached it.

NOTE: RENAME to hicolor-icon-theme_0.5_all.ipk before installing, attachment names on the forum gets bugged!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: zi99y on February 24, 2007, 05:31:26 am
What still needs to be fixed in this version of xfce? I gather that it's not officially `working`, but I'd be interested to give it a try if it's usable....
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: psycoman on March 21, 2007, 06:51:57 am
any news about xfce4.4 ?
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on March 21, 2007, 07:12:59 am
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any news about xfce4.4 ?
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file are here : [a href=\"http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/]http://wasp.drun.net/zaurus/xfce-4.4/[/url]
And they work.

Chero.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: Chero on September 09, 2007, 01:30:46 pm
bumping this for snk4ever.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: snk4ever on September 09, 2007, 05:36:31 pm
thanks :-D !!
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on September 19, 2007, 09:37:39 am
I'm building 4.4.1 now ... should be ready soon
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: scottlfa on October 05, 2007, 11:04:31 pm
Works like a charm, installed today.  No issues so far
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: kkazakov13 on October 11, 2007, 06:42:52 am
Compiled the xfce 4.4.1 packages.

STILL UNTESTED

http://z.drun.net/xfce4/ (http://z.drun.net/xfce4/)

for anyone who dares to try ... please test and tell me. No time to do it by myself  On first look it works™, but haven't been working with it, just started it.
Title: Thunar 0.8.0 (+ Xfce 4.4.0) For B3/ii13
Post by: scottlfa on October 19, 2007, 10:18:48 pm
Will give it a look