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Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 11, 2007, 11:14:44 am
Hi all,

I noticed a few mentions of pcmanfm in the forum, especially the new pkgs thread but I can't find an ipk. Can anyone tell me where I might find it if it's around.

Ta

Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 11, 2007, 11:50:22 am
I could try compiling it. It would be for r121, but it may still work.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 11, 2007, 12:27:59 pm
Ah, that was me who listed it, I compiled it for personal use - I didn't think anyone else would have a use for it

It has a few 'problems' - you can run it as root OR normal user - you can't switch via the 'open current folder as root' as it will crash. Likewise, you can't edit the preferences, unless you do it manually by going to the ~/.pcmanfm/main text file and adding values there.

It's because it's meant to be compiled with the newer GTK2 - at least 2.8  It works fine, but the problems above would be solved if someone would compile the newer GTK2 libraries/headers.

Oh, and I removed that annoying 'you are running as root' warning bar at the top too

If you still want it, let me know ^__^
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 11, 2007, 12:32:16 pm
If it's a lightweight app that runs well on beta 3, then I'd love to try it if possible. Not too bothered about the problems you mention.

I'm not set on any of the file managers I've tried really, and seeing your screen pic made attracted me to the tabbed view and simplistic interface.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 11, 2007, 12:40:11 pm
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If it's a lightweight app that runs well on beta 3, then I'd love to try it if possible. Not too bothered about the problems you mention.

I'm not set on any of the file managers I've tried really, and seeing your screen pic made attracted me to the tabbed view and simplistic interface.
I had to compile it for just this reason, as I find even a dual-pane file manager is too restrictive for useage

This version does actually support putting icons on the desktop (well, it just shows the contents of your 'Desktop' directory) and changing wallpaper, but I never used it for those, so don't know what you'd have to add to the 'main' file to get it to accept those settings.

I don't think I packaged it up with the proper 'control' file, etc, but it's here and it works - I hope you find it useful ^__^

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Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 11, 2007, 01:07:15 pm
Thanks for this, it's complaining about libfam.so.0 - doesn't run without it

do you have an ipk for these libs?
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 11, 2007, 01:14:38 pm
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Thanks for this, it's complaining about libfam.so.0 - doesn't run without it
Oops - yes, sorry. I completely forgot about that one  I actually compiled gamin/gam_server.

Oh, and if it complains on startup about not setting the icons, just add
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gtk-icon-theme-name="Tango" into your .gtkrc-2.0 file and you're sorted

Here you go.

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Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 11, 2007, 02:38:34 pm
I compiled my own because that one segfaulted under r121, but I can't get it to use the Tango icon theme. I copied the files from my Ubuntu box (16x16, 24x24, and index.theme, the only icon sizes I was using). Do I need to do anything special to get icons?

Thanks.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 11, 2007, 02:43:39 pm
I had the entry wrong in .gtkrc-2.0, but now I still don't have icons. As a matter of fact, I lost icons in the menu bar. Do they need special names?
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 11, 2007, 02:45:32 pm
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I compiled my own because that one segfaulted under r121, but I can't get it to use the Tango icon theme. I copied the files from my Ubuntu box (16x16, 24x24, and index.theme, the only icon sizes I was using). Do I need to do anything special to get icons?

Thanks.
Well, I packaged up Tango with the appropriate iconsets, and I had '16','22' and 'scalable', plus I compiled it onboard, so it ran the icon-mapping-utility over it to generate the appropriate symlinks for pdaXrom. I think it needs specific icon naming-conventions to be recognised in Pcmanfm.

You could try my Tango pack and see if that works with your compiled pcmanfm? It's now got additional icon sizes, but still works

(I'm presuming that you've tried successfully with other iconsets, and also added that line to the .gtkrc-2.0 as I stated).
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 11, 2007, 02:47:18 pm
It looks like I need some stuff from other icon sets. I should have looked at the .theme file first. Oh, well.

EDIT: Installed gnome-icon-theme, put "gnome" in .gtkrc-2.0, and it works great.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 11, 2007, 02:48:01 pm
Thanks for the ipk's, works a treat. Looks to be a pretty good app too
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 11, 2007, 02:55:50 pm
Hey no problem. It's nice to know I can give things back to the community

@Capn_Fish: That was going to be my next suggestion  

I use the gnome icon set to fill in the blanks. Though there aren't really any in the menu bar - they're all Tango icons for me O_o
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Meanie on February 12, 2007, 09:14:34 am
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Hey no problem. It's nice to know I can give things back to the community

@Capn_Fish: That was going to be my next suggestion  

I use the gnome icon set to fill in the blanks. Though there aren't really any in the menu bar - they're all Tango icons for me O_o
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=153836\")

I build the latest pcmanfm optimised for xscale cpu, removed the root user warning, and also removed the "folder from here as root" and "preferences" menu items which crashes pcmanfm.
have fun

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/pcmanfm_0.3.2.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu....2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 12, 2007, 09:27:01 am
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I build the latest pcmanfm optimised for xscale cpu, removed the root user warning, and also removed the "folder from here as root" and "preferences" menu items which crashes pcmanfm.
have fun
Ah, I optimised it with the same flags, removed the root user warning, but I didn't know about the crashes with those two options till I was using it - I guess I just didn't think to go back and hack them out  

Thanks Meanie; as always, your work is hugely appreciated - I use most of the apps from your customised beta3 feeds
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: 2or0 on February 12, 2007, 10:35:01 am
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Hey no problem. It's nice to know I can give things back to the community

@Capn_Fish: That was going to be my next suggestion  

I use the gnome icon set to fill in the blanks. Though there aren't really any in the menu bar - they're all Tango icons for me O_o
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=153836\")

I build the latest pcmanfm optimised for xscale cpu, removed the root user warning, and also removed the "folder from here as root" and "preferences" menu items which crashes pcmanfm.
have fun

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/pcmanfm_0.3.2.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu....2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153882\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I compiled and am using pcmanfm for my own purpose. In my case everything is fine even when I use "folder from here as root" and "preferences" menu items. Maybe this is the reasone that I compiled it with r121.

I did not try yours but I will try it.

- yonggun
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 12:58:37 pm
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Hey no problem. It's nice to know I can give things back to the community

@Capn_Fish: That was going to be my next suggestion  

I use the gnome icon set to fill in the blanks. Though there aren't really any in the menu bar - they're all Tango icons for me O_o
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=153836\")

I build the latest pcmanfm optimised for xscale cpu, removed the root user warning, and also removed the "folder from here as root" and "preferences" menu items which crashes pcmanfm.
have fun

[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/custom/pcmanfm_0.3.2.2_armv5tel.ipk]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/beta3/cu....2_armv5tel.ipk[/url]
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153882\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
EDIT: I installed the gnome icon theme and hi-color as shown in the depends and , gamin_0.1.8_armv5tel.ipk, from meanie's feed, but when I launch pcmanfm, there are no icons.
There are no icons in "icons" mode either.
the gnome icons and hi-color icons add up to about 2MB, I really want to use them, since they are taking so much space.
I also restarted X, and the icons still don't appear in pcmanfm.

BTW, with the "Tree view" enabled, it looks just like Tree!Explorer for sharp/cacko, but with all the icons missing.
I really like this setup, but I just need the icons.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 02:17:32 pm
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It looks like I need some stuff from other icon sets. I should have looked at the .theme file first. Oh, well.

EDIT: Installed gnome-icon-theme, put "gnome" in .gtkrc-2.0, and it works great.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153834\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I opened .gtkrc-2.0 on my setup (pdaxii13-akita5.3), but there are two WARNINGS in this file that says:
#--THEME AUTO-WRITTEN DO NOT EDIT

Is there another way to get the icons in pcmanfm, without editing this file?
Hers's a screenie in tree view without icons.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 12, 2007, 02:21:35 pm
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It looks like I need some stuff from other icon sets. I should have looked at the .theme file first. Oh, well.

EDIT: Installed gnome-icon-theme, put "gnome" in .gtkrc-2.0, and it works great.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153834\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I opened .gtkrc-2.0 on my setup (pdaxii13-akita5.3), but there are two WARNINGS in this file that says:
#--THEME AUTO-WRITTEN DO NOT EDIT

Is there another way to get the icons in pcmanfm, without editing this file?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153904\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I had the same thing but one line says include /home/me/.gtkrc-mine

so I created this file and added the line there.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 02:28:07 pm
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It looks like I need some stuff from other icon sets. I should have looked at the .theme file first. Oh, well.

EDIT: Installed gnome-icon-theme, put "gnome" in .gtkrc-2.0, and it works great.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153834\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I opened .gtkrc-2.0 on my setup (pdaxii13-akita5.3), but there are two WARNINGS in this file that says:
#--THEME AUTO-WRITTEN DO NOT EDIT

Is there another way to get the icons in pcmanfm, without editing this file?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153904\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I had the same thing but one line says include /home/me/.gtkrc-mine

so I created this file and added the line there.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=153905\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
What exactly does this line look like, is it just this? or is there more text, sorry for such a newb question.
"gnome"
BTW, mine says include "/home/root/gtrc.mine"
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 12, 2007, 02:35:10 pm
The line I added to .gtkrc-2.0 is:

gtk-icon-theme-name="gnome"
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 02:39:29 pm
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The line I added to .gtkrc-2.0 is:

gtk-icon-theme-name="gnome"
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I added that to my /home/root/gtrc.mine file, but it had no effect.
I would add it to .gtkrc-2.0, but there are 2 very specific warnings not to edit this file in all caps at the top and the bottom.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 12, 2007, 02:41:04 pm
No warning in mine. You could try backing up the file, then editing it. Worst case you copy the old one back. If you're REALLY paranoid, you could even do a NAND backup.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: wyvvie on February 12, 2007, 02:46:38 pm
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I added that to my /home/root/gtrc.mine file, but it had no effect.
I would add it to .gtkrc-2.0, but there are 2 very specific warnings not to edit this file in all caps at the top and the bottom.
As far as I know, those warnings only appear because GTK-switch (or whatever it's called) adds it automatically when it applies a new GTK theme.

I think it's just to ensure that you don't go messing it up and ending up with an unusuable theme ^__^

I have never had any hassle from editing that file directly - and I've been doing it this way for years (on my Debian box too).
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 02:56:23 pm
That worked.
I thought the icons would be more colorful/descriptive for almost 2MB of space.

Thanks again,
Jon
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 12, 2007, 04:50:56 pm
Where is the documentation?
I googled and found the sourceforge site. (features listed only, no documentation)
I googled for the following:
pcmanfm documentation
pcmanfm manual
pcmanfm help
pcmanfm help file
and on and on.
I went to debian and downloaded the source, (pcmanfm_0.3.2.2.orig.tar.gz), opened it and looked for any documents, all I found is a zero byte README.

I want to add mimetypes, but the mimetypes dialog is empty, and none of the functions work.
I tried to add a new type, byt the button does nothing.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: zi99y on February 13, 2007, 03:39:40 am
This seems to work great for my needs, fast, uncluttered and handy file associating. Only annoyance I have is when deleting files it doesn't seem to refresh the file list so the deleted items are still visible.

Think I'll now uninstall the 10+ other file managers I have
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: danboid on February 13, 2007, 04:13:59 am
I've really been looking forward to trying pcmanfm on my Z but I've been unable to get it to start. I've installed the GNOME icons and gamin and I have tried putting either

gtk-icon-theme-name="gnome"

or

gtk-icon-theme-name="Tango"

in either of the two different config files mentioned but all I get is the error

Gtk-WARNING **: Screen for GtkWindow not set; you must always set a screen for a GtkWindow before using the window

four times before it segfaults. If I don't include the icon theme name then pcmanfm brings up a warning window before it produces the same error.

I'm running ii13 5.3b
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: danboid on February 13, 2007, 04:40:02 am
Got it to load!

I took a hint when JJ mentioned Meanies packages so I uninstalled the packages posted above in this thread and installed the Meanie editions instead, which does find the icons when you edit that file to the gnome setting.

As has already been mentioned though, icons remain after you've deleted files- even if you push the refresh button, although they do get deleted - and I haven't been able to make any new file/program associations which is the real showstopper for me.

Saying this, pcmanfm looks really nice and I think I'd prefer it to rox as my file and desktop manager if these things worked properly.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Jon_J on February 13, 2007, 02:23:42 pm
I had a blank page on the Associations settings until I installed this.
(pdaxii13-akita doesn't have this installed by default)
shared-mime-info_0.14_armv5tel.ipk

Now I can see a page full of Associations, but I cannot edit any of them, or add a new association, just like danboid points out.
I would like to edit the Quicktime mimetype to accept *.mp4 in xmms
Also, there are a lot of bogus associations.
CorelDraw!
I cannot even open CorelDraw! images on my cacko zurus using Picsel Browser.
Title: Pcmanfm
Post by: Capn_Fish on February 13, 2007, 04:16:13 pm
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As has already been mentioned though, icons remain after you've deleted files- even if you push the refresh button, although they do get deleted
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In the version I compiled I don't think this used to work, but it does now. You could try compiling it.