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Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: zmiq2 on April 16, 2007, 09:43:11 am
It seems that Intel is developing the second wave of UMPC, and splitting those in two product lines:

- ultra small 5'', <1000USD, linux powered
- small 7'', ~1200USD, vista powered

News seem to appear later today, so stay tuned.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/...39274887,00.htm (http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/hardware/soa/Intel-to-launch-Linux-powered-mobile-Internet-device-/0,130061702,339274887,00.htm)

http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/art...php?storyid=484 (http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=484)
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Capn_Fish on April 16, 2007, 02:25:49 pm
5" sounds just about perfect...
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Snappy on April 16, 2007, 08:16:47 pm
My question to Intel would be: "How is that not a Nokia InternetTablet?" ...

But heck, if Intel's muscle is enough to move OEMs to make more linux UMPC ... and even some with keyboards ... I say "bring it on!"
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: gr8ful on April 18, 2007, 12:21:24 am
Does anyone know anything about the OS (Midinux)?  It says that it is based on the Chinese, Red Flag Linux----never heard of it.  However, the UI looks very slick and modern and as the article points out, very iPhone like.

http://apcmag.com/5876/intel_gives_red_flag_the_green_light (http://apcmag.com/5876/intel_gives_red_flag_the_green_light)

The OS will run on the new Intel processors designed for the 'MID' platform and will also run on some existing platforms (following link shows running on an ASUS UMPC).

http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_..._red_flag_linux (http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_mobile_internet_device_with_red_flag_linux)

Will in run on a Zaurus?  I'd love to give it a go and they seem to have a number of applications prepared from the start:

word processor
email
image viewer
pdf reader
IM
movie player
rss reader
calendar
and more...
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: freizugheit on April 18, 2007, 04:42:24 am
I think that it should not be any problem to put the whole Mac OS X in the machine as Apple is capable of incorporating a minimum Mac OS X into iPhone.
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: dhns on April 18, 2007, 06:06:03 am
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I think that it should not be any problem to put the whole Mac OS X in the machine as Apple is capable of incorporating a minimum Mac OS X into iPhone.
Not any *technical* problem... Unless Apple adds some hardware platform checks.

Maybe, Apple will have one of the ODMs make a modified UMMac next year on this platform.

-- hns
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: zmiq2 on April 18, 2007, 06:50:12 am
It seems that the new platform brings new players.

Take a look at this zaurus-esque fujitsu unit

http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0704/idf-mobile&a=0&s=9 (http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0704/idf-mobile&a=0&s=9)
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: desertrat on April 18, 2007, 08:51:42 am
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http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0704/idf-mobile&a=0&s=9 (http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0704/idf-mobile&a=0&s=9)
This one definitely looks the most Z-ish. Anyone have any more info on this?
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: gr8ful on April 18, 2007, 09:53:15 am
One site reports that, "...UMPCs and MIDs will come from Asus, Aigo, Asus, Fujitsu, Haier, HTC and Samsung".  Looks like Sharp has not decided to officially get in the game.  However, the EM-ONE (S01SH) from Sharp is only a half step away from being a MID.  I don't think they would have to change much, upgrade the processor to the new Intel MID processor.  The rest of the specs fall right in line with what they are classifying as a MID:

Sharp EM-ONE (S01SH)

32bit Intel XScale PXA270 CPU @ 520MHz
512MB ROM / 128MB RAM
4.1" color transflective TFT display, 65536 scales, 800x400pixel
UMTS, HSDPA, WLAN, Bluetooth
Slide-out QWERTY-type keyboard
1.3 megapixel main camera
70x140x18.9mm, 250g

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The more I see this device, the more I like it.  I'd love to see that Red Flag Midinux running on this....nice.
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Snappy on April 20, 2007, 12:39:55 pm
Now it would be interesting when their Midinux OS get ripped off by others ... the Chinese are known for being pirates ... wonder how they will feel when their products get pirated. You never know, is it OSS?

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Does anyone know anything about the OS (Midinux)?  It says that it is based on the Chinese, Red Flag Linux----never heard of it.  However, the UI looks very slick and modern and as the article points out, very iPhone like.

http://apcmag.com/5876/intel_gives_red_flag_the_green_light (http://apcmag.com/5876/intel_gives_red_flag_the_green_light)

The OS will run on the new Intel processors designed for the 'MID' platform and will also run on some existing platforms (following link shows running on an ASUS UMPC).

http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_..._red_flag_linux (http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_mobile_internet_device_with_red_flag_linux)

Will in run on a Zaurus?  I'd love to give it a go and they seem to have a number of applications prepared from the start:

word processor
email
image viewer
pdf reader
IM
movie player
rss reader
calendar
and more...
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Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: desertrat on April 20, 2007, 01:32:49 pm
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Now it would be interesting when their Midinux OS get ripped off by others ... the Chinese are known for being pirates ... wonder how they will feel when their products get pirated. You never know, is it OSS?
Just want to remind people that the first version of the US copyright law only gave copyright protection to works authored by US citizens. That means works by non-US authors were pirated left right and centre. It was only 100 years later that the law was amended to give protection to non-US works.
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Snappy on April 21, 2007, 09:57:48 am
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Now it would be interesting when their Midinux OS get ripped off by others ... the Chinese are known for being pirates ... wonder how they will feel when their products get pirated. You never know, is it OSS?
Just want to remind people that the first version of the US copyright law only gave copyright protection to works authored by US citizens. That means works by non-US authors were pirated left right and centre. It was only 100 years later that the law was amended to give protection to non-US works.
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Right ... and two wrongs don't make one right ... and neither do three wrongs.

Anyways, I also don't buy the self-righteous rants by US on copyright laws ... or for that matter, on freedom, democrazy or the likes ... still piracy is wrong, no matter who is doing it.
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Ling on April 21, 2007, 02:44:02 pm
Oh boy, Saturday America bashing. It isn't just for weekdays anymore.
Title: New Linux Small Umpc From Intel
Post by: Snappy on April 24, 2007, 10:23:32 am
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Oh boy, Saturday America bashing. It isn't just for weekdays anymore.
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Right ... I forgot ...   ... so as I was saying ...

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OT: About Ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty ... (I like to call it Fiesta ... haha)

Everything works great ... except that a simple thing like detecting my logitech mouse's tilt-wheel button is something that evades everyone on the ubuntu forum.

Otherwise, it's pretty swell. I like it.