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Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: metal9966 on March 11, 2004, 12:45:47 pm
The most complete Information on the 6000 I have found...
Very intresting, Talkes about Using the USB Host, Drivers are going to need to be compiled it sounds like for many usb items. Sound like that it will be easier to add drivers in the PDAXROM for usb items. Has Great Pics, Similar to offroadgeeks pics he took.

Check this out...

I am still kinda debating on weather to go with 860 or 6000...

Any comments on these articles?


http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/u...lp=ja_en&tt=url (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigit.que.ne.jp%2Fvisit%2Findex.cgi%3FLinux%25A5%25B6%25A5%25A6%25A5%25EB%25A5%25B9%252FSL-6000&lp=ja_en&tt=url)
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: metal9966 on March 11, 2004, 01:11:09 pm
ok, there is one thing that may bug me quite a bit. The 6000 is HUGE!
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: tumnus on March 11, 2004, 01:46:46 pm
Bigger than the 5500 perhaps, but the screen must be amazing. Actually I wouldn\'t mind too much having a slightly bigger Z, as long as I can still fit it in most pockets. In fact the extra length might make it nicer for typing on the keyboard.

I wonder what the button with the dot does. Second standby button perhaps? There\'s a separate standby button on the left (finally! combining Cancel and On/Off was so silly).

The cover hinge has been moved away from the corners so I guess it won\'t break if you drop it on a top corner.

Shame it will cost so much, even when/if it is released outside of Japan  A Linux PDA really should be cheaper than a similarly specced Pocket PC because there\'s no Micro$oft tax.

Thanks for the link!
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: nilch on March 11, 2004, 02:28:26 pm
\"A Linux PDA really should be cheaper than a similarly specced Pocket PC because there\'s no Micro$oft tax. \"

But there is no similarly specced Pocket PC as yet around.
The screen of the Zaurus is worth the additional taxes taht Sharp charges, but the main factor is I guess volume sales.

If a Linux PDA like the Zaurus does catch on and sells like POcketPC\'s (provided Sharp makes an effort) then prices might come down a lot.

Metal9966 - the extra screen size does make a big difference for prolonged power use. And I guess for people who might consider using the 6000 as a laptop replacement - its not so much that the Zaurus 6000 is so much more bigger than the other PDA\'s, but its so much more smaller than the general laptops that people lug around.
so its all perspective.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: DrWowe on March 11, 2004, 02:44:58 pm
I\'d like to find a way to use an external keyboard with the 6000 in landscape mode comfortably.  The 6000 has so many connectivity options (bluetooth, USB, IR, serial) that there\'s bound to be a convenient solution.  Then, you can use the thumbboard for quick note taking, and still use it like a laptop replacement when sitting down.  The biggest challenge I see is figuring out how to mount the Zaurus in a stable position where the screen is tilted at a comfortable viewing angle.

I\'m glad to see the 6000 has a thin battery and a flat backside.  The 5600 was awkward in that regard.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: metal9966 on March 11, 2004, 03:56:02 pm
I am wanting to see if a USB keyboard will work on it. Like one of those rubber keyboards that you can roll up. When It finally gets to the states there will be much testing and driver writing to be done I assume. PDAXROM should work on this right? Maby with a few modifications?

metal9966
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 05:07:24 pm
Linux certainly supports USB keyboards, so its very likely the Zaurus will as well, unless Sharp supplies a severely limited host driver.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: metal9966 on March 11, 2004, 10:21:39 pm
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Linux certainly supports USB keyboards, so its very likely the Zaurus will as well, unless Sharp supplies a severely limited host driver.
Well, One question... When is the 6000 going to be released in the US? Do any Sharp guys read the ZUG?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 11:42:32 pm
That site makes it sound like the 6000 is not aimed at general consumers... which makes sense, given its size and ruggedized, non-streamlined design.  He claims that the 6000 will only be offered online (or, at least, not through major retailers here in Japan).  Of course, things might be different if/when it makes it to the States.

As was mentioned in another thread, there is a rumor that Sharp will be announcing a new C-series Zaurus on March 17 (next Wednesday).  Again, this is just a rumor.

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: tumnus on March 12, 2004, 03:52:32 am
A USB keyboard should work with the 6000. In theory compiling the USB drivers if they do not already exist should not be a problem. The only snag might be the mini-USB socket on the 6000.

As for a similarly specced PocketPC, what about the Toshiba e805 for $521: http://www.bargainpda.com/price/default.as...lay=priceDetail (http://www.bargainpda.com/price/default.asp?productID=1114&brandName=Toshiba&productName=e800%20e805&display=priceDetail) ?
(There is already a hack to run all apps in full VGA resolution)

Not that I want a Pocket PC... I hate the GUI...
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2004, 09:00:05 am
Quote from: \"ashikase\"


As was mentioned in another thread, there is a rumor that Sharp will be announcing a new C-series Zaurus on March 17 (next Wednesday).  Again, this is just a rumor.

Yeah, I also saw the C970 mentioned at
pc3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mobile/1070478137/l50
. But why isn´t some information available about this device, when the official announcment is in 5 days?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Mickeyl on March 12, 2004, 10:05:34 am
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But why isn´t some information available about this device, when the official announcment is in 5 days?
Uhm... because the official announcement day is the day when the company decides to release these information?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2004, 10:12:38 am
;-) yeah, right!
But how do they manage to keep it secret? Or are people just not interested enough?
I mean, there were rumours and preview pictures of other devices, right?

Kathrin
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: metal9966 on March 12, 2004, 10:24:44 am
I am guessing the C970 (if there is such a thing) would have specs similar to the 6000 with built in wifi and such. ????
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Mickeyl on March 12, 2004, 11:31:41 am
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I am guessing the C970 (if there is such a thing) would have specs similar to the 6000 with built in wifi and such. ????
I\'m guessing your guess is accurate  
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: ganoe on March 12, 2004, 11:39:21 am
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I am guessing the C970 (if there is such a thing) would have specs similar to the 6000 with built in wifi and such. ????
I\'d suspect that if it was for the US and had built-in wireless, it would have shown up on a FCC website somewhere months ago.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2004, 12:11:19 pm
That brings up an interesting point.  Is it legal to import a non-FCC approved device?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: treke on March 12, 2004, 12:34:26 pm
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\"A Linux PDA really should be cheaper than a similarly specced Pocket PC because there\'s no Micro$oft tax. \"
Instead there is the Qtopia tax.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: Mickeyl on March 12, 2004, 12:44:00 pm
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I am guessing the C970 (if there is such a thing) would have specs similar to the 6000 with built in wifi and such. ????
I\'d suspect that if it was for the US and had built-in wireless, it would have shown up on a FCC website somewhere months ago.
Right. Which implies an unfortunate conclusion. For Sharp it may be somehow logical though... as far as I have heard they even have a hard time producing enough units for the japanese market.
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: edl867 on March 12, 2004, 02:09:06 pm
are any of these guesses educated guesses?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: nevarrie on March 13, 2004, 12:50:39 am
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I am guessing the C970 (if there is such a thing) would have specs similar to the 6000 with built in wifi and such. ????
I\'m guessing your guess is accurate  
I am tired of guessing...

I want to KNOW...

but then again I have been trying to get the money saved up since last June to buy me a Z...and since I am still a little short(still recovering from unemployment) I guess I can wait a little longer...

..Maybe by then there will be rumors of a Z phone that I can hold out for...
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: vishnja on March 13, 2004, 04:42:35 am
The question is of course: if it will be announced in March - when would it be available in the stores (in Japan)?
Also with gadgets one could allways have a (good) reason to wait a little bit longer.
It\'s seems like a compromise between feature request and patience to me...
I mean, even if the C970 would be out in the stores by April, it would take time for the community to develop new ROMs etc...
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: claborne on April 01, 2004, 07:48:41 pm
From the pictures, it looks like something that you would buy from a collective in old Russia.  Who did the industrial design on this, the same guy in E-germany that did the troby (sic)?
Title: NEW SL-6000 Info, Very Informative
Post by: amrein on April 02, 2004, 01:17:33 am
If so, I will have to reconsider my 760