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Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 15, 2007, 04:02:59 pm
I'd like to use the Firefox browser on the Sharp rom.
I found a version of it here (http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/) in the Index of /menaie/feed.
It seems to install on the Sharp rom, but it doesn't load up.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: Capn_Fish on July 15, 2007, 04:38:16 pm
Since the ipk format is consistant between Sharp/Cacko and pdaXrom, it will install OK, but Firefox uses stuff that the Sharp ROM doesn't have, ie X11, GTK, etc. so  it won't run.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: jfv on July 15, 2007, 04:45:38 pm
In theory it could run within XQt on the Sharp ROM but I am not sure how well it would run.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: Capn_Fish on July 15, 2007, 05:14:34 pm
It does run in X/QT, but the performance hit would probably make it unbearable. FF is slow as is, add in running X on top of QT and you get uselessness.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 16, 2007, 07:24:25 am
Thanks, guys.
I kind of figured as much.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 16, 2007, 07:33:46 am
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It does run in X/QT, but the performance hit would probably make it unbearable. FF is slow as is, add in running X on top of QT and you get uselessness.
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Not true. It's actually very snappy. I've used many roms, and this is the snappiest firefox of all (haven't used the latest Pdaxiii13, so can't compare that). However it's good.

What you need to get it to run is, install meanies pdaXqtrom, check out his page if you're not sure how to. Then install the firefox from his feed. For it to run it must be run as root, dunno why, so create a fir script reading
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sudo firefox (must have sudo installed). Then just run it in XQt by typing fir.

Also, if you enable monolingual mode (check out meanie's page for the how-to) and not use his FluxBox but use ratpoison as the defaultwm, everything's gonna be super snappy. It's very useable with the stock Sharp ROM.

For ratpoison, you can go to:[a href=\"http://www.focv.com/ipkg]http://www.focv/ipkg/[/url]
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 16, 2007, 11:10:29 am
Thanks, ShiroiKuma.
I'll try and get all that stuff together and see what I come up with.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 17, 2007, 08:45:25 pm
Well, I've got pdaXqtrom all installed and working.

Firefox is a little slow, but it does work.
With a little tweaking here and there it'll probably be a little faster.
I've got to figure out how to get to the profile/chrome directory so I can create a userChrome.css file, but I can't seem to find it.
I'm thinking it might be embedded inside the pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs file, but I can't open it to find out.
I've also got to see if I can install a few small extensions.

Thanks again ShiroiKuma for pointing me in the right direction.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: adf on July 17, 2007, 09:23:25 pm
FF is definitely faster in pdaXii13 than in pdaxqt.  Pdaxqt IS really cool though...
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 18, 2007, 03:34:57 am
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Firefox is a little slow, but it does work.
I'm thinking it might be embedded inside the pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs file, but I can't open it to find out.
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I use pdaxqtrom tgz expanded to harddisk and not the pdaxqtrom apps cramfs but the firefox ipk from Meanie's feed.

This combination makes much faster, than mounting the two cramfs files and using the pdaxqtrom and firefox from them. You can give that a try.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 18, 2007, 08:53:14 pm
Well, I got Firefox working in pdaXQtrom using the base and apps cramfs images.
I wanted to use just the base cramfs and install Firefox, but I couldn't find Firefox 1.5 anywhere in the feeds, only 0.9-3.
It is kind of slow due to the C1000 not having a hard drive, but even though it's running off an SD card, it's not too bad.
I haven't figured out how to install ratpoison yet.
I use the overclocking applet to get a little more speed, and a 128MB swapfile.
Thanks again for the help, and a special thanks to Meanie for this great application.

Doug

EDIT:
I just found Firefox 1.5
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 19, 2007, 08:43:07 am
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I haven't figured out how to install ratpoison yet.
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Install the ipk from the site that I mention. Edit /etc/X11/defaultwm to say ratpoison instead of fluxbox. Then start X/Qt and there you go, ratpoison starts.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 19, 2007, 09:11:54 am
I can only find ratpoison tar.gz but not ipk (unless I'm missing something).
I haven't a clue how to install the tar.gz.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 19, 2007, 10:48:34 am
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I can only find ratpoison tar.gz but not ipk (unless I'm missing something).
I haven't a clue how to install the tar.gz.
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At [a href=\"http://www.focv.com/ipkg/]http://www.focv.com/ipkg/[/url] - ratpoison ipkg (http://www.focv.com/feed/ratpoison_1.4.1-1_arm.ipk)
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 19, 2007, 12:58:24 pm
Thanks for the link ... I've got it now.
Another pretty strange thing is when installing both the Firefox 1.5 ipk and the Ratpoison ipk, I get a message box that says something like:

"The extraction of some files failed. When you cannot run the program, uninsall it."

I used the standard Sharp package manager to install them.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Doug.

(sorry to be such a pain)
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: ShiroiKuma on July 20, 2007, 03:26:07 am
You should only get that when installing Firefox. It tries to write some files to /usr/apps which is a read-only file system on the stock Sharp ROM. Doesn't matter though, it's just desktop files and stuff not necessary.

You can run it fine without these bits anyhow.
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 20, 2007, 09:38:36 am
I mounted the root file system as rw and tried installing firefox and ratpoison  again and got the same error message on both.
This is really pretty wierd.
Oh well, firefox works pretty well using the cramfs, it's just slow because it's running from my SD card.

Thanks for all the help.
Doug
Title: Firefox For The Sharp Rom?
Post by: dougeeebear on July 21, 2007, 06:20:04 am
I now have Firefox 1.5 installed on /home and the base cramfs installed on my SD card.
I'm using the Fluxbox window manager.
Even though it's a little slow, it is somewhat faster than running Firefox from the apps cramfs.
I think it's the best I'm going to get with no hard drive.

Thanks again for the help.
Doug