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General Forums => New products and alternatives => Topic started by: Da_Blitz on August 11, 2007, 09:31:27 am
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http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13249 (http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13249)
looks like some nice features, 128MB of ram, wifi bluetooth, CF SD video out and a 2700G coupled to an intel pxa270 @ 416Mhz
i know i am getting one, its intresting that they say that it wont support bluetooth file trasfers, i hope they are not reinventing the wheel instead of using the bluez stuff.
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It might be good, but not good enough for it's size. I would go for the Asus Eee (check HERE (http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Hands_on_with_the_ASUS_Eee/) and HERE (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3829) for more), for it's much more powerful, both for it's size, and for it's price. Plus, it looks kinda cool.
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http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13249 (http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13249)
looks like some nice features, 128MB of ram, wifi bluetooth, CF SD video out and a 2700G coupled to an intel pxa270 @ 416Mhz
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They have an official homepage set up: [a href=\"http://www.palm.com/foleo/]http://www.palm.com/foleo/[/url]
According to according to http://www.nexave.de/news/show.php?id=2293 (http://www.nexave.de/news/show.php?id=2293), weight is more than 1kg, though.
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According to according to http://www.nexave.de/news/show.php?id=2293 (http://www.nexave.de/news/show.php?id=2293), weight is more than 1kg, though.
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I'm not convinced that it's worth selling my Sony TX2 and using part of the money to buy a Foleo - I'd expect a Kohjinsha to be a better mobile companion!
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The hardware sounds pretty good but it sounds like Palms linux based OS isn't very FOSS friendly- that article mentions developers having to sign an NDA if they want to develop apps for it.
Palm, just like Sharp, obviously just don't get the whole concept, conventions and importance of the Linux / FOSS community.
Be interesting to see how the battery life of this will compare to the c3x00
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Be interesting to see how the battery life of this will compare to the c3x00
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Some article mentions 4.5 hours.
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Popular Science did a roundup thing of the Foleo, the Asus, and the Via whatever it is. They ranked them as so, FWIW:
3. Foleo
2. Via (better parts than the Foleo for the same price)
1. Asus (Cheap, good components)
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i belive the NDA is because the device hasent been released and the api for developing applications, i dont belive it will take much to get into this thing, im betting on uboot with 3 flash partions, kernel, rootfs, userfs
i belive most people are missing the point with the foleo, but thats because i use my computers diffrently from most people, i use linux fulltime on nearly all my devices and i do 90% of my stuff on a command line, most of the articles i see are people who want to use it as a normal windows laptop and play youtube on it, i want video out and the ability to watch moives as well as a cmd line and firefox/thunderbird so its the ideal device for me when i need something bigger
when it comes to the foleo i believe the are marketing it wrong by saying companion, just come out and say its a keyboard and larger screen with prettier graphics for your mobile
the one thing it does have over the other two is good looks and the ability (once i am done with it) to get much better battery life. i would sell my Kohjinsha for the foleo (with CF card)
if anything i would compare it to the rest of the market as i wooud compare the Z to the rest of the PDA market (i dont believe th Z and this compete, the z is good for some things and this for others)
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i would sell my Kohjinsha for the foleo (with CF card)
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Why that? (I'm rather tending towards a Kohjinsha or [a href=\"http://www.dataevolution.com/cathena_cx_info.htm]Data Evolution Cathena[/url] which looks similar?)
The main selling point of Palm never was its hardware but the usability of its software that enables ordinary users to do things. With respect to the foleo, I haven't read much about this aspect yet.
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its nice but the keyboard is a killer for me, i need something that can actually type properly. the lacking linux support for some hardware is a major drawback for me as well (i have made huge progress but not 100% yet, no wifi and no native resolution for the screen/and video out (actually part of the same problem, cant do dual head))
i really have to look into the palm a bit more (in terms of size and shape) but the touchscreen is one thing i would have liked on the kohjinsha and i never use it tablet mode. plus i would rather more screen real estate over the buttons (however the OS independence of the buttons and backlight was a big win for me)
time will tell, wait till it has been released first
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Da_Blitz, why do you think that the Foleo will be better than the Asus EEEPC from your point of view?
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i will include some links in case the sites have the wrong info
asus eeepc
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Hands_...h_the_ASUS_Eee/ (http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Hands_on_with_the_ASUS_Eee/)
and for palm, just thier main site
bluetooth is one win for me, while wifi is avalible its not always open and most of the time there isnt a local coffe shop. i pay for a HSDPA account to get around that and i dont want to have to lug around another usb cable (that said i probelly have one handy for charging the phone). i have had bad experiences with $1000AUD + phones and usb cables connected to a laptop (slipping off and hitting the floor)
non x86 processors (esp ARM) have really really good instant on, acpi is nice but i have never seen it come up as fast as my Z or other arm devices, power is an issue. the eepc from what i have heard is a 3 hour machine. i really need 4+ hours most days
i will make an assumption here but i believe its safe, i am betting the foleo charges off of 5v, this means my 6AH battery packs will work on the device, i really wish they did with kohjinsha as it means i could go a week between recharges (needs about 15v minimum) however the eeepc could be different as thier are no moving parts (mechanicals are normally the thing that uses the 12v lines these days)
and lastly i prefer touch screens to keypads, just personal prefrence as thier are few occasions where i have to use both at the same time (only reason i touch the mouse these days is for fierfox, i have keyboard bindings for window managment using gonme and i do use wmii when i remeber to install it)
for me its the little things and trying to intergrate it with everything else i own. i would probelly be happy with the eeepc but its very simmilar to my kohjinsha already. however a speed bump would be nice