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Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: relapse808 on December 15, 2007, 07:21:38 pm
I have installed titchy linux via the network based install.  I am still a noob so I dont know what I am doing.  I have tried to install the armel packages and it tells me i am running arm and not armel.  Do i need to install a different disto or is there something else I can do?

Thanks
Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: scottlfa on December 15, 2007, 08:43:22 pm
Titchy is OABI (Arm) and the others you see around here are EABI (Armel) two seperate architectures.

Arm has a more complete package selection than armel, armel runs faster though.  And on armel sound works perfectly.
Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: relapse808 on December 16, 2007, 02:08:57 pm
Quote from: scottlfa
Titchy is OABI (Arm) and the others you see around here are EABI (Armel) two seperate architectures.

Arm has a more complete package selection than armel, armel runs faster though.  And on armel sound works perfectly.


OK I have two more questions.  You say there is a more complete package selection for ARM.  Where do i find these at.  Are there feeds like PDAXROM or some way similar of getting them.  I did try updating my sources.list with a file I found on a website here at oesf and that really didnt work.  Instructions would really help.

Second, is there a idiots guide to get EABI on my C3000.  I know for the youngblood kernal I need to get uboot installed.   Is there instructions any where that go step by step for someone who isnt that great at the Zaurus somewhere?


Thanks again everyone.
Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: dlj0 on December 16, 2007, 02:53:21 pm
Quote from: relapse808
Quote from: scottlfa
Titchy is OABI (Arm) and the others you see around here are EABI (Armel) two seperate architectures.

Arm has a more complete package selection than armel, armel runs faster though.  And on armel sound works perfectly.


OK I have two more questions.  You say there is a more complete package selection for ARM.  Where do i find these at.  Are there feeds like PDAXROM or some way similar of getting them.  I did try updating my sources.list with a file I found on a website here at oesf and that really didnt work.  Instructions would really help.
I suppose the sources.list you saw was the one pointing to an armel repository.  But every debian package site should have a full arm build.  Go for the one nearest you.  
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Second, is there a idiots guide to get EABI on my C3000.  I know for the youngblood kernal I need to get uboot installed.   Is there instructions any where that go step by step for someone who isnt that great at the Zaurus somewhere?

Installing eabi is not yet trivial.  Personally, I avoided uboot, since I had had trouble with it before -- I don't want to go through that again.  So, I used cortez' kernel, which works like a charm for me.  Others have managed well with uboot; I don't know what the real problem is for some of us.

Once you are up and running, though, things are good.
Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: jpmatrix on December 17, 2007, 11:33:44 am
i wonder what a apt-get dist-upgrade with eabi sources.list would give with your oabi ??? perhaps an upgrade from oabi to eabi???
Title: I Installed Titchy Linux. Is There Now Way To Install Armel Packages
Post by: dlj0 on December 17, 2007, 11:56:28 am
Quote from: jpmatrix
i wonder what a apt-get dist-upgrade with eabi sources.list would give with your oabi ??? perhaps an upgrade from oabi to eabi???

If the kernel is capable of supporting both, which titchy might not be (or, it might; IIRC Angstrom kernels are), then this might work, but it might very well not work.  The key is when it re-installs the basic shared libraries; it might wipe out the oabi libraries before it replaces the oabi utilities --- or the other way around, and I wonder how many of those utilities are statically compiled.  

I'd say it's risky, not to be tried unless you are committed to eabi by another means if it fails.  Make a backup; that might just save you.