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Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: puffy on January 25, 2008, 10:59:07 pm
Does anyone here have experience using a Jtag cable for fixing a bricked Zaurus?
I am interested in knowing where to get the 18 pin connector to make a jtag cable.
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: pelrun on January 26, 2008, 12:42:20 am
How did you manage to brick it? A bad flash is *not* sufficient; the fn-D-M key combo will still get you into the diagnostic menu (it's stored in ROM.)

In any case, the jtag support is incomplete - it's in the schematic but the necessary components are not present on the actual units.
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: puffy on January 26, 2008, 03:13:21 am
Quote from: pelrun
How did you manage to brick it? A bad flash is *not* sufficient; the fn-D-M key combo will still get you into the diagnostic menu (it's stored in ROM.)

In any case, the jtag support is incomplete - it's in the schematic but the necessary components are not present on the actual units.


 Everyone tells me the diag menu is in read only memory. But I guess you can screw up the ability to access it. Because I have thoroughly exhausted every conceivable and documented procedure to access said menu(s).

Leave it to me to be the only freekin' schmuck who actually somehow bricked his Zaurus. Well, I didn't do it but the lame eBay guy who sold it to me did. The menus were never functioning.

Anyone know of a good repair service?
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: pelrun on January 26, 2008, 05:48:27 am
Actual physical or electrical damage is really the only way to brick the Z; since you weren't the one who broke it then what happened is anybody's guess - a fall, water ingress, voltage spike etc.

If the seller represented it as a working unit then you should be able to claim back your money...

(oh, and as for last resorts, you *can* jtag the Z, but it requires opening the unit up and soldering to the signals directly - the missing components just remove the ability to use the connector to do it non-invasively.)
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: puffy on January 26, 2008, 09:14:32 am
Quote from: pelrun
Actual physical or electrical damage is really the only way to brick the Z; since you weren't the one who broke it then what happened is anybody's guess - a fall, water ingress, voltage spike etc.

If the seller represented it as a working unit then you should be able to claim back your money...

(oh, and as for last resorts, you *can* jtag the Z, but it requires opening the unit up and soldering to the signals directly - the missing components just remove the ability to use the connector to do it non-invasively.)


Too late for a claim.
Going to get out the iron and make some solder smoke.  I've already gathered quite a few useful documents to help. But none yet that detail what needs to be connected. I'm now using a Simpad SL4 I bought to ease the pain  
But I'm fixing the Zaurus.
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: pelrun on January 26, 2008, 11:11:26 am
I'd give you a copy of the service manual, but I was asked not to distribute it. Sorry.

Doesn't mean I can't point stuff out on a picture  I've left the usb port in for orientation purposes.

I've marked two of the JTAG testpoints; but I can't see from the photo I used where the testpoints are for the other two. So the diagram points to the appropriate IC pads instead. As far as the other components go, there's missing pullup/pulldown resistors for TCK, which I've marked as they're probably important; and missing caps to ground for TDI, TMS and TCK which I haven't marked as they're probably less important (I don't know the values either.)

Edit: uhoh - on the schematic the jtag wires are also crossed out at the cpu end. I hope they're still connected...
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: puffy on January 26, 2008, 02:55:16 pm
Quote from: pelrun
I'd give you a copy of the service manual, but I was asked not to distribute it. Sorry.

Doesn't mean I can't point stuff out on a picture  I've left the usb port in for orientation purposes.

I've marked two of the JTAG testpoints; but I can't see from the photo I used where the testpoints are for the other two. So the diagram points to the appropriate IC pads instead. As far as the other components go, there's missing pullup/pulldown resistors for TCK, which I've marked as they're probably important; and missing caps to ground for TDI, TMS and TCK which I haven't marked as they're probably less important (I don't know the values either.)

Edit: uhoh - on the schematic the jtag wires are also crossed out at the cpu end. I hope they're still connected...

Sweet  
Thank you pelrun
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: Hrw on February 01, 2008, 02:52:45 am
http://blog.haerwu.biz/2006/08/09/sharp-zaurus-jtag-cable/ (http://blog.haerwu.biz/2006/08/09/sharp-zaurus-jtag-cable/) is schematics of official Sharp Zaurus JTAG cable. It is from SL-5500 service manual and require Win32 JTAG tool.

And I can not get it how you were able to brick sl-cxx00 device... From what I know only collie (5000/5500) can be bricked - rest of Zaurus devices warrant entry to diagnostics where nand restore is available.
Title: Zaurus Jtag Cable
Post by: scholbert on February 01, 2008, 07:45:47 am
Hi there,

very nice pic pelrun  

I once started a thread with a similar question (pelrun might remember...):
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22106 (https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22106)

These informations may also be very useful for some of you  

scholbert