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Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: cortez on May 07, 2008, 06:18:01 am
Hi,

I've asked for a dedicated Ubuntu subforum, but since Ubuntu is based on Debian I posted this here for the time being.

I've finally uploaded a version 0.1 of Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake for all of you to try. Detailed instructions can be found here (http://www.omegamoon.com/blog). Thanks to speculatrix for hosting the files.

It's a bit different than all the other images I guess. Since this is just a version 0.1, I've based the installation instructions on the Qemu (ARM) emulator. There's much left to be fixed and configured, so this is much easier done in Qemu on a fast machine instead of doing it on the much slower Zaurus.

Please help me to get to a version 1.0 as soon as possible, by giving it a try, and sharing your thoughts, suggestions and hopefully your patches/fixes/scripts etc. Also, let me know if there are any errors in the instructions.

Have fun,
cortez
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: tux on May 07, 2008, 01:02:30 pm
 Hi Cortez,

I've seconded your request for a forum.

I had a little play with the android stuff on my 3200 before I went back to Cacko recently. I'm having fun playing with the Ubuntu under Qemu stuff thanks to your blog and Paul's hosting of the files. I certainly learn things when I follow your suggestions!!  

I expect I'll break this system a half dozen times before the evening is over. Whatever the outcome of this experiment I'll certainly have a few clues about Qemu and the process of building Zaurus usable file systems before too long. Thanks again and also to Speculatrix for the hosting.  

I installed openssh-server first. I expect I'll find a way of sshing in from a terminal session soon.    I'm going to add a normal user and see if I can start to use X as a normal user. I suppose I'd better have a quiet look at the sudo set up etc.



Cheers

My goodness! That was a quick response!!!!   I started posting in the Debian forum and finished in the new Ubuntu one!  
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: cortez on May 07, 2008, 03:05:03 pm
Gee, I'm enjoying my 15 minutes of fame  here (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7548149165.html)
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: mikeones on May 07, 2008, 03:37:54 pm
Nice write up.  I will give this a look...
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: ArchiMark on May 07, 2008, 03:40:06 pm
EXCELLENT, cortez!

Thanks for sharing this with everyone!

 
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: zogs on May 07, 2008, 03:58:00 pm
cool...src/ubuntu created  
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: axeTail on May 08, 2008, 04:21:37 am
Quote from: cortez
Hi,

I've asked for a dedicated Ubuntu subforum, but since Ubuntu is based on Debian I posted this here for the time being.

I've finally uploaded a version 0.1 of Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake for all of you to try. Detailed instructions can be found here (http://www.omegamoon.com/blog). Thanks to speculatrix for hosting the files.

It's a bit different than all the other images I guess. Since this is just a version 0.1, I've based the installation instructions on the Qemu (ARM) emulator. There's much left to be fixed and configured, so this is much easier done in Qemu on a fast machine instead of doing it on the much slower Zaurus.

Please help me to get to a version 1.0 as soon as possible, by giving it a try, and sharing your thoughts, suggestions and hopefully your patches/fixes/scripts etc. Also, let me know if there are any errors in the instructions.

Have fun,
cortez


Well done cortez,

What are the advantages of using ubuntu over debian ?

Thanks....
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: tux on May 08, 2008, 04:44:06 am
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Well done cortez,

What are the advantages of using ubuntu over debian ?

Thanks....
 Advantages:

1.  We can easily use Qemu to test and tweak on our desktop/laptop/umpc before installing on the Z.  

2. The installation method is a lot more straightforward.   Apparently, fairly straightforward on the C1000 also?

Looking at cortez's website, omegamoon, the install is just a normal Z flashing process. You follow the instructions for Android on cortez's site but use frisky-minimal-rootfs.tar.gz renaming it to android-rootfs.tar.gz.

It would also seem to me that once the FieryFiredrake release from cortez reaches version 1.0  we'll have an Eabi, Debian based, linux on the Z which should be reliable, stable and useful.

I suspect that it won't be any faster than the Debian installs.  

Cheers
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: cortez on May 08, 2008, 06:26:00 am
Quote from: tux
1.  We can easily use Qemu to test and tweak on our desktop/laptop/umpc before installing on the Z.
I like that part too. It's much easier to configure. This applies to Debian too by the way. I'm pretty much done with documenting this for Debian too. I've installed Debian using the Debian Installer in Qemu. Running Debian from the Qemu (ARM) emulator, you're able to build Ubuntu or any other Debian-ARM-based distro. Pretty cool actually. For the rest, it's just a matter of taste I guess. Freedom of choice is a good thing. If you're happy with Debian, it's stable and you're able to run all stuff you want, don't switch to Ubuntu. Be sure never to fix a working system!

Quote from: tux
2. The installation method is a lot more straightforward.   Apparently, fairly straightforward on the C1000 also?
Looking at cortez's website, omegamoon, the install is just a normal Z flashing process. You follow the instructions for Android on cortez's site but use frisky-minimal-rootfs.tar.gz renaming it to android-rootfs.tar.gz.
I forgot to mention, this should indeed work for the C1000 also, not only for the C3x00.

Quote from: tux
It would also seem to me that once the FieryFiredrake release from cortez reaches version 1.0  we'll have an Eabi, Debian based, linux on the Z which should be reliable, stable and useful.

I suspect that it won't be any faster than the Debian installs.
What can you expect, extraction of 80+Mb takes some time
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: tux on May 08, 2008, 06:35:22 am
Quote from: cortez
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Quote from: tux
It would also seem to me that once the FieryFiredrake release from cortez reaches version 1.0  we'll have an Eabi, Debian based, linux on the Z which should be reliable, stable and useful.

I suspect that it won't be any faster than the Debian installs.
What can you expect, extraction of 80+Mb takes some time
  Sorry cortez, I meant to say "I suspect that it won't run any faster than Debian."  
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: crossblaim on May 26, 2008, 06:36:23 am
Hey, thank you very much for your efforts, cortez.

I'm trying the version 0.3 of the image in my zaurus SL-C3200, my network card is working fine but I'm getting 302 moved temporarily errors runing apt-get. do you know what must be the problem?
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: speculatrix on May 26, 2008, 05:45:15 pm
Quote from: crossblaim
Hey, thank you very much for your efforts, cortez.

I'm trying the version 0.3 of the image in my zaurus SL-C3200, my network card is working fine but I'm getting 302 moved temporarily errors runing apt-get. do you know what must be the problem?

check your apt sources and put them into a regular web browser, and verify that they work there - it might be a typo in the file, or cortez might have tweaked things?
Title: Ubuntu Frisky Firedrake Available...
Post by: AeroSigma on June 24, 2008, 06:37:38 pm
What hardware do I need to run this?  It's about an 80MB root-fs, so I can't really install it on my SL-6000.  But you've got instructions to alt-boot Android to SD card on a CL-1000, and the Zubuntu uses the same install procedures as your Android.  Is it possible to adapt this process for the 6000?

-AeroSigma