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Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 01, 2008, 05:25:26 am
Hi all!

Well I thought it would be nice to have a topic about who has or going to get the OpenMoko Freerunner.
You all know (or not) it is a "Open" Smartphone.


What about you?

Ciao  
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: Capn_Fish on July 01, 2008, 10:23:06 am
I thought it had a 500 MHz CPU?

Anyway, I'm going to do my best to get my hands on one, but my budget is working against me as hard as it can
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 01, 2008, 02:21:44 pm
As far as I know it is 400 in idle state and 500 in working state.

Yeah it is pretty expensive. But all gadgets are expensive  
I bought my unit at pulster.de
It has been shipped today, so it will arrive this week!
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: zogs on July 01, 2008, 04:05:42 pm
I want an keyboard...why  freerunner doesn't have one??
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 01, 2008, 04:21:41 pm
Quote from: zogs
I want an keyboard...why  freerunner doesn't have one??

They wanted to look to much like the iphone  

That is also one of the things I really miss at this device, then again a touchscreen keyboard should do the trick (still not as good though)  
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: Capn_Fish on July 01, 2008, 04:58:23 pm
Quote from: zogs
I want an keyboard...why  freerunner doesn't have one??
Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: stupkid on July 02, 2008, 05:20:05 pm
Quote from: Capn_Fish
Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version

I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518 (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518)

I've been waiting on Openmoko to get the consumer hardware finished for 2 years or so.  I've already committed the $$ for it and I'm looking forward to it.  While a keyboard would be nice my current phone is on it's last legs and I would like to see the Openmoko project succeed.  I also don't see a lack of keyboard being a HUGE problem since there is USB and Bluetooth on the device.  

Overall, I think it will be a pretty sweet phone.  That probably won't come to pass until a year from now when the software matures.  The good news is that any later devices will be able to expand on the existing code base.

For me it is all about supporting a open platform (more open than Android) with my money.  So, I guess I'm a zealot that way. The hardware and current software short comings are not relevant to me when looking at the benefits of freedom on such a platform.  I can understand people not thinking it is cool, because there is better hardware and software (see right above).  Long term though, I feel that I am making the right choice in supporting OM to keep producing open hardware.
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: Capn_Fish on July 02, 2008, 07:37:19 pm
Quote from: stupkid
I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518 (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518)

Yeah, pretty much.

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I've been waiting on Openmoko to get the consumer hardware finished for 2 years or so.  I've already committed the $$ for it and I'm looking forward to it.  While a keyboard would be nice my current phone is on it's last legs and I would like to see the Openmoko project succeed.  I also don't see a lack of keyboard being a HUGE problem since there is USB and Bluetooth on the device.

I agree. It is only a phone (I know, it's more than that, but still). Still, I need excuses not to get one (my budget couldn't handle it).
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For me it is all about supporting a open platform (more open than Android) with my money.  So, I guess I'm a zealot that way. The hardware and current software short comings are not relevant to me when looking at the benefits of freedom on such a platform.  I can understand people not thinking it is cool, because there is better hardware and software (see right above).  Long term though, I feel that I am making the right choice in supporting OM to keep producing open hardware.
I totally agree with that. Android is a step in the right direction, but it's not quite what I want. I guess that makes me a zealot too
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: ofels on July 03, 2008, 04:16:03 am
Quote from: stupkid
Quote from: Capn_Fish
Oh, yeah...I'm also sort of holding out for the N810-form-factor version

I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518 (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518)


From the specs:
Operating System  Windows MobileĀ® 6.1 Professional

So bye bye device afaic.

Oliver
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 03, 2008, 08:31:24 am
Well totally agree what stupkid sais.

My OpenMoko Freerunner arrived today



Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: stupkid on July 03, 2008, 12:02:54 pm
Quote from: ofels
Quote from: stupkid
I guess you are looking for something like this (-WM of course):

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518 (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518)

From the specs:
Operating System  Windows MobileĀ® 6.1 Professional

That's why I said -WM or minus Windows Mobile.  A little cryptic of me I suppose.  Hardware like that with completely running Linux would be awesome.


RX shorty, that is hilarious that Pulster ships with gummy bears how German of them.  
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 03, 2008, 02:31:52 pm
Quote from: stupkid
RX shorty, that is hilarious that Pulster ships with gummy bears how German of them.  

Hehe yeah! That's why I took a picture of it
Well good service, that is one thing for sure!  
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: zmiq2 on July 03, 2008, 03:50:23 pm
RX,

can you please post some info on the device?

- what internet browser uses? ajax/flash support?

- what is battery performance ?

- external speaker for handsfree operation ?

- video playback performance ?

- touchscreen sensivity/performance? compared to an iphone?

I think I'll wait for the 3G version... and maybe in the meanwhile I'll get an iphone.....
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 03, 2008, 04:44:17 pm
Quote from: zmiq2
RX,

can you please post some info on the device?
Offcourse

- what internet browser uses? ajax/flash support?
There is no browser standard installed, but you can install Minimo (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo) (mozilla based, not tested yet)

- what is battery performance ?
Cannot tell you much about that right now, but what I read around the mailinglist etc, it is not poor but not very good either.

- external speaker for handsfree operation ?
Yes there is an Handsfree option that works pretty good

- video playback performance ?
Also a media player isn't installed by default, need to test it sorry.

- touchscreen sensivity/performance? compared to an iphone?
The performance is very good. Also the sensivity is good, you can tap really fast with losing a tap.

I think I'll wait for the 3G version... and maybe in the meanwhile I'll get an iphone.....
All I can say is that the Iphone is Ready to Use, Openmoko needs some time to play with, then again you have something very special

I will let you know if I tested more, then again I have to wait for the weekend before I have some time  
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: stupkid on July 03, 2008, 05:00:18 pm
According to the this thread on the mailing list:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commun...uly/020339.html (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/020339.html)

As power management gets implemented battery life is improving.  The GTA01 (FreeRunner is GTA02) had terrible battery life, 8 hours of operation from what I read.  With new software it is getting 21 hours and there are even more things to implement.  So, battery life will get better, but currently power management needs a lot of work.
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: RX Shorty on July 03, 2008, 05:10:10 pm
Quote from: stupkid
According to the this thread on the mailing list:

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commun...uly/020339.html (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/020339.html)

As power management gets implemented battery life is improving.  The GTA01 (FreeRunner is GTA02) had terrible battery life, 8 hours of operation from what I read.  With new software it is getting 21 hours and there are even more things to implement.  So, battery life will get better, but currently power management needs a lot of work.

True, Well I must admit that the software that is on the device (standard at delivery) is pretty buggy. It crashed about 2 times. The sounds goes off and on about specific times.
Ah well... I need to check if a reflash helps.
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: zogs on July 21, 2008, 04:13:51 pm
neo freerunner ordered...
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: howdouknow on August 06, 2008, 05:04:28 pm
is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with the freerunner?
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: stupkid on August 06, 2008, 06:13:06 pm
Quote from: howdouknow
is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with the freerunner?

Yes, it is possible.  There are some audio quality issues that are being looked into at the moment with A2DP.
Title: Openmoko Freerunner
Post by: dhns on April 07, 2009, 03:40:22 am
Quote from: speculatrix
and the final answer to the poll is "no-one any more"
Nonsense. Linuxdevices:
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Openmoko: Next-gen phone bites dust, but FreeRunner lives