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Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: InSearchOf on November 11, 2016, 02:15:19 pm
I'm considering spinning up this distro again as a side project. How many folks are still active in the Zaurus community?

Late
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: ckblackm on November 11, 2016, 07:33:03 pm
I'm still here.
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: ArchiMark on November 11, 2016, 10:03:25 pm
Good to hear from you and your possible new updates....

I'm still here after all these years.....

And still got my trusty ol' reliable 3200....

 
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: InSearchOf on November 11, 2016, 10:19:31 pm
good to hear. I'd have to buy another on before I'd start dev... but I'd need more than 2 users :-D

Late
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: greguu on November 12, 2016, 12:46:17 am
Quote from: InSearchOf
good to hear. I'd have to buy another on before I'd start dev... but I'd need more than 2 users :-D

Late

Hi Late,

it would be good to have a distribution that can run from NAND again, like pdaXrom.

As you know I work on ArchLinuxARM.

It is versatile and very up to date, but is too heavy for running from NAND, but it has huge repo with up to date packages.

Also it lacks C1000 support as I do not have one to develop a kernel and kexecboot for it.

OE/Angstrom still releases automated builds but no one has tested them AFAIK.

Some time ago I thought about spinning a "new" distribution based on Alpine Linux.

Alpine is based on musl and openrc and it would fit on NAND, as it is very memory efficient and similar to Arch in use.

Sadly Alpine has no arm5tel port/repo and it would mean a lot of work, compiling packages, but these could be Zaurus optimized - still a lot of work for just a handful of users.

Do you want to build a new release for pdaXrom from scratch or just update some parts of the latest release ? The gcc3 compilers may be too old to compile new packages.

If you really want to go down that track of reviving pdaXrom, I am happy to test and may even contribute.

Join #ALARMZ on freenode if you like. There are not many Z users left.

Cheers!
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: dmarschal on November 14, 2016, 03:40:17 am
Hello,
I'm here too. I can test the ROM on the 760/860 series and on a 'regular' C3000 as well.

Thank you!!!

edit: It's funny that there's Pandora, Ryra at the door and the WIN available and nothing comes close to the good old Zaurus. (-:
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on November 14, 2016, 03:55:58 am
Hi InSearchOf, glad to hear that you're planning to resume PdaXROM. It was my favourite distro back in the days (heck, even now I'm still daily on the #pdaxrom IRC channel, just in case someone else joins in too . Sadly at some point I had to ditch it since it didn't support SD cards bigger than 2GB.

Nowadays we are very few Zaurus users left, so maybe it could be a good idea to collaborate with greguu (and/or any other developer willing to help) to develop a single, up-to-date distro, either based on Arch Linux or any other distro. My ideal distro would be one with an usable X11/window manager (as PdaXROM), a recent kernel, support for SDHC/SDXC cards, charging and suspend/resume. I'm not interested in installing it on the NAND, it would be handy to boot from it but I'm afraid to wear it out by reaching its read/write cycle limits.

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on November 14, 2016, 04:01:07 am
Quote from: dmarschal
edit: It's funny that there's Pandora, Ryra at the door and the WIN available and nothing comes close to the good old Zaurus. (-:
Well, it remains to be seen if the Pyra will have the same production/shipping problems as its predecessor, and regarding the GPDWin it is still unknown how well will it run Linux...

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: TheWalt on November 14, 2016, 01:08:34 pm
Still around with a 3100 to test with (as time permits).
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: fourier on November 20, 2016, 05:54:47 pm
I'm using pdaXrom pdaXii13 with my C3000. Would be happy to see the development!
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: ArchiMark on April 06, 2017, 05:14:38 pm
Any news on potential updates?

Thanks.

Mark
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: HoloVector on April 06, 2017, 06:50:00 pm
I might be interested as I could test on my C1000 or C860. My 3200 would be off limits though as I have Pdaxii13 perfectly tweaked on it.
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Vitel on April 19, 2017, 12:10:03 pm
I use C1000 and C3200 from time to time. And I'm glad to know that I'm not alone.
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on April 19, 2017, 02:27:29 pm
Quote from: Vitel
I use C1000 and C3200 from time to time. And I'm glad to know that I'm not alone.
Hi Vitel and welcome back

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: brontoZaurus on June 03, 2017, 02:52:28 pm
Hello to all!

I'm still here too (with near no free time) and my C3000 still boots Arch, Cacko and pdaXii13 beta3 from time to time...

Glad to read i'm not alone  
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on June 04, 2017, 06:28:15 am
Quote from: brontoZaurus
Hello to all!

I'm still here too (with near no free time) and my C3000 still boots Arch, Cacko and pdaXii13 beta3 from time to time...

Glad to read i'm not alone  
Another Arch user, that's great to hear  As you can see we are still here!

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: ppyo on June 17, 2017, 06:22:00 am
Quote from: InSearchOf
I'm considering spinning up this distro again as a side project. How many folks are still active in the Zaurus community?

Late

I am still around! I have a SL-C1000 with Cacko, and I would love to try something else. Alas, I cannot find pdaxrom anywhere! Any pointers are appreciated...

Pedro
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on June 17, 2017, 09:10:51 am
Quote from: ppyo
I am still around! I have a SL-C1000 with Cacko, and I would love to try something else. Alas, I cannot find pdaxrom anywhere! Any pointers are appreciated...
Hi Pedro,

you can find all the pdaXrom releases and feeds inside InSearchOf's repository:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pdaxrom/download/ (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pdaxrom/download/)

Note that the beta1/3/4 releases are based on kernel 2.4, the later r121/197/198 ones on 2.6.

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: HoloVector on June 18, 2017, 01:41:37 pm
Actually, Beta 4 has the 2.6 kernel as well.  If you are interested in a bug fixed stable version of pdaXROM with a 2.4 kernel; I would recommend pdaxii13.  You can find it here. (http://members.iinet.net.au/~wyso/myZaurus/pdaxii13.html)
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Sy Ali on July 02, 2017, 09:14:55 pm
What are the odds of my checking back in?

I still have mine, but I haven't used it in some time.
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on July 03, 2017, 03:54:55 am
Quote from: Sy Ali
What are the odds of my checking back in?

I still have mine, but I haven't used it in some time.
Hi!

What Zaurus do you own? In case it's a SL-C1000 or 3x00, you might want to give Arch Linux ARM a try, the latest kernel and rootfs for Zaurus have been released last May.

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Sy Ali on July 03, 2017, 02:23:54 pm
Quote from: Varti
I still have mine, but I haven't used it in some time.
What Zaurus do you own? In case it's a SL-C1000 or 3x00, you might want to give Arch Linux ARM a try, the latest kernel and rootfs for Zaurus have been released last May.

It's a 1000.  I'll have to go check that out, thanks!
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: slaanesh on August 13, 2017, 07:45:10 pm
I still have various Zaurus  SL-C3000, SL-C1000, SL-C860 and an SL-C5600.

I tried all the distros and found pdaXrom was the best of the lot except that it didn't suspend power - unless I was doing something wrong*.
It would run through the battery very quickly!

If this one thing was fixed I would use it again.

At the moment I'm experimenting with Arch Linux.


*I have since found that 'apm --suspend' seems to do the job, using r121 build on my SL-C860.
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Varti on August 15, 2017, 08:11:58 am
Quote from: slaanesh
I tried all the distros and found pdaXrom was the best of the lot except that it didn't suspend power - unless I was doing something wrong.
It would run through the battery very quickly!

If this one thing was fixed I would use it again.
On pdaXII I usually triggered the suspend via the menu, and resumed using the Home key, and AFAIR never had any problems, though other people have reported it to be flakey:
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25653 (https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25653)
https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=26093 (https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=26093)

Have you tried weeXpc? I have not installed it yet, it should be a more polished version of pdaXrom, and its still available for download (I have recently been in touch with its author):

https://hermocom.com/archive/20-weexpc (https://hermocom.com/archive/20-weexpc)

Varti
Title: New Pdaxrom Development
Post by: Unx on August 23, 2018, 03:28:26 am
I got a c760 and recently bought c3100. I am willing to test if pdaXrom back to live!